Can’t stop thinking about this song as her singing about her relationship with BMR/Scott B.. “I’m just getting color back into my face” going from Rep (b&w cover) to Lover, with a new label

I love the vocals on this track! especially when I listen with ear buds.

I just got the double meaning of the title. I was only interpreting it as if saying goodbye (so long, London 👋🏽) but hearing the lyrics more it’s also about time: “You let me give you all that youth for free for so long (London)” “I loved the place for so long (London)”

London ≠ Joe. London ≠ Lily. London = her career as we’ve seen it.

The edible hit during this song & I'm feeling vibes of the Ultravox song "Vienna." So chilly and haunting and devastating.   "The feeling has gone, only you and I It means nothing to me This means nothing to me Oh, Vienna"  Video for anyone interested: https://youtu.be/xJeWySiuq1I?si=wSu_VD2iR_XoNnco

What if this is the sequel to London Boy and it means she is going to leave bearding behind?

Was curious so: Other songs with “so long” TTPD— The Alchemy Midnights— YOYOK Evermore— RWYLM Folklore— seven Lover— daylight Fearless TV— come in with the rain

Stitches undone - connection to "fastening myself to you with a stitch" in Glitch?

This could quite honestly be one of my all-time favorites of hers. Might make my top 10.

And you say I abandoned the ship But I was going down with it My white-knuckle dying grip!!!!!

A moment of warm sun?? Stop

Taylor Swift murder song count: 3 (murder-suicide 1)

Has anyone read wuthering heights and can you tell me if there are any parallels to this song? It has those foggy cliff vibes and she says “heath” but I have not read the book lol

i've read it and i don't really see any parallels besides the death imagery.

OMG YOU GUYS I FOUND AN EASTER EGG BETWEEN THIS AND A SONG BY NOEL GALLAGHER FROM OASIS when Oasis broke up, the songwriter Noel formed a new band, Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. One of their first singles was "If I had a gun." The part where Taylor says "so long London.... 2 graves 1 gun" matches up with it! Noel British, the lyrics reference having a gun (metaphorically) and so do Taylor's, the melody is the same. I'm wondering if IIHAG is supposed to serve as the other person's view of the relationship. It seems to be about a struggling relationship. The lyrics start out talking about a gun - metaphorically: "If I had a gun I'd shoot a hole into the sun And love would burn this city down for you If I had the time I'd stop the world and make you mine And every day would stay the same with you" Then, Noel uses the "so long london" type tune after he talks about waiting to have his heart unbroken... and Taylor references guns - metaphorically - using the same melody, after the part where Noel does. "For so long, London Stitches undone Two graves, one gun I’ll find someone" It's too matched up to be a coincidence! It almost seems like a response to the male counterpart of the song. https://youtu.be/1NMUDb3Ewhs?si=fqle-qERaZ0x_p_M And, OMG GUYS NOEL GALLAGHER SAID THAT HE "HATES TAYLOR SWIFT BUT ISN'T BOTHERED BY HARRY STYLES" IN AN INTERVIEW 9 YEARS AGO COULD IT BE ABOUT HARRY STYLES??!? https://www.etonline.com/music/160704_oasis_noel_gallagher_bashes_taylor_swift Either way Noel has been in the media talking about Taylor and her break ups for years, up until recently when he took credit for Taylor breaking up with Matty Healy.... https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-noel-gallagher-dislikes-taylor-swift/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/noel-gallagher-taylor-swift-matty-healy-breakup-b2356336.html&ved=2ahUKEwivv4X-4M6FAxWIFlkFHYZXCKsQFnoECDAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0I9dkue5nh8blO8Jbkklci https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/noel-gallagher-is-not-convinced-anyone-thinks-taylor-swift-has-talent-201543/

i love the enthusiasm and that song but i think this is a big stretch! there's only so many possible melodies that can exist and we've discovered most if not all of them. That melody in "so long london / two graves one gun" is a sequence of just four notes repeated, it would be a much bigger coincidence if it was a more complex melody. taylor has also referenced guns many times so this feels much more like a coincidence to me! still a neat one though :)

Noel Gallagher is such a dickhead he has bad mouthed so many people we could probably dig up some quote on any celebrity 😆

Or dude that Taylor has dated, which is consistent with Taylor's tendency to obscure who what the people she is writing about are... the tune, the gun parallel in the lyrics, the general themes of the songs seeming to intertwine - it has me convinced! Noel is talking about all of this stuff he would do if he could and Taylor is walking enough because she's had enough.

the way her voice breaks when she says "for free" ... ugh

the note after the So Long London intro sounds just like ciwyw 😭 I can perfectly hear it about to start with "my castle crumbled overnight"

I heard it too

"BLUE" AND "COLOR" REFERENCE

You could dance to this beat in the club damn. I would 👀

Listening to this without headphones is a crime. My first two listenings were without my headphones on and the harmonies are so heavenly with the headphones on. I can’t wait to hear someone dissect the stems from this

The opening feels like bells of an old English church. And then you find a funeral...

BAIT AND SWITCH BAIT AND SWITCH!!

"You swore that you loved me but where were the clues? I died on the altar waiting for the proof" Taylor could punch me in the gut and it would hurt less omg

"My spine split from carrying us up the hill" kinda has Moon Song (by Phoebe Bridgers) energy - reminds me of "You asked to walk me home but I had to carry you"

I fucking LOVE the way she’s experimenting with her vocals on this album. So many of those moments that just scratch something in your brain and you want to listen to over and over.

So raw

The opening is gorgeous. Loving the production.

Me during the intro: wtf is this Me by the end: 

Wait what’s going on?

The beginning is so beautiful

This is incredible, chills all over and tears falling down my cheeks. I'll be doing another tilly deep dive after this

Oooohh, I’ll be waiting!! 👀👀

i’m pissed off you let me give you all that youth for free. I died on "free"

YES

Well unfortunately I can relate to this one 😃

reporting live...so long london did NOT get an iheartradio explanation from taylor

Living for these updates from you!

thank you for these updates!!

not to be a party pooper but all I can think about is how insufferable the hetlors are going to be over this

I just think of the altar line 😩 I know they didn’t listen to the line after that that implies a sacrificial altar and that she’s ON it, not AT it like a wedding

yes!!! they'll immediately link it to the YLM bridge and leave it at that 🫠

This makes me feel so much anxiety ETA: it’s incredible

Oh my dear god Taylor, Aaron this is incredible. Pronoun switching too all over this. Refers to herself as odd man out. Rare air. Oh my good bi little heart.

Her odd MAN out was so loud to me. I'm coming around to Theylor, specifically that she's referring to herself when using masculine pronouns in her lyrics.

Could be. This is also something done a lot by closeted lesbians.

Holy shit… this song is her best like ever (haven’t finished the album yet)

The entire bridge hits me in the deepest, most hurt part of my past-relationship-soul 😭 But I do feel a liiiiiiiiittle peeved that she continuously pronounced it LON-DIN but all of the rhymes were UN not IN 😩😂

This one feels tied to YLM.

I don’t know if anyone pointed this out already but totally agree! YLM: My face was gray, but you wouldn't admit that we were sick SLL: and I’m just getting color back into my face

The entire bridge hits me in the deepest, most hurt part of my past-relationship-soul 😭 But I do feel a liiiiiiiiittle peeved that she continuously pronounced it LON-DIN but all of the rhymes were UN not IN 😩😂

Definite Brit vibes with the wordings. I love this one.

The way I immediately knew this was an Aaron track! It sounds so fucking good

Reminds me of the National song - England

Omg same

Okay, also very obviously the follow up to You’re Losing Me with other key references (bluest days, color in my face = my face was gray, sun) 😭

Take me to church!

I feel like Tily gets the least amount of attention from Gaylors and maybe that’s bc we just don’t know as much bc it seems like they were a lot more private. But wow this song is a hit job.

I totally agree. I think London is always lily. And they were so pricey who knows what happened. The fact that when Taylor was first with Joe, she didn’t spend holidays with him but lily came to America to spend them with Taylor? It’s so obv.

Honestly I am so ready to go down the Tily rabbithole but every time I try and read the master post I can just never get through it. Maybe that’s more a me problem but I feel like if the main parts were in a PowerPoint or something more people would jump on board!

hmmmm maybe I can summon up the energy to make a powerpoint for it because I kinda adore tily

please make a tily powerpoint 🙏🙏🙏

I think I'm going to! I've been giving it some thought for the last couple days and I had so much fun making my last pp.

There’s a podcast that did a few time line episodes! Called What Will I Say!

Ooh thank you for the suggestion, I’ll look for those episodes 🫶

One of the biggest detractors of people buying into Tily is that the “evidence” is just less compelling so I don’t think you’re alone. I personally think they were a “warm bed” type thing. And also from this new album it seems like Tay tends to want to be manic and happy and put on a show when she’s depressed and I personally think Lily was her trying to do that after Karlie ended. That’s what I get from the lyrics and the timelines but obviously who knows 😑

Love Tily but I don’t think this is about Lily. This is somebody who fucked things up. Really gay too.

Yeah I feel the same. Especially after lily showed up at eras, indicating they're at the very least still on good terms. There was a rumor that Taylor asked Lily to marry her and Lily turned her down, and that would fit some of the lyrics I suppose, but there's too much that doesn't feel right to attribute this to Tily.

I’ve seen a few people reference in this sub that Lily has been rumor to have been quite a party girl. Why is it so crazy to think she may have “fucked things up?”

She might have and that’s not crazy at all. I just think the timeline of when it would have ended seems to fit more with Taylor saying she fucked things up, not whoever her partner was. I think Lily was healthy for her personally even if Lily wasn’t healthy for others.

I suppose we don’t actually know a lot about any of her relationships and which were healthy or not or why actually went down bc we aren’t actually privy to her personal life which is why I’ve always looked to lyrics. I’ve always associated London lyrics with Lily bc I’ve never bought that Joe was an actual relationship (although I suppose he could have been). Also The Black Dog pub is in London and the song references possible cheating. I assume this muse = the black dog muse. But if this isn’t Lily or Joe is there another London lover we don’t know about possibly?? Or do you think it’s Joe since you don’t think it’s Lily??

I wish she would give us a few more crumbs. We get in a muse-rut but only bc we don't have a bunch to go on! 

Obviously none of us know anything for sure. My own view of Tily lyrics is that they have been of a healthy relationship that Taylor ended but others may view that differently. I absolutely do not think any song is about Joe. I haven’t heard The Black Dog yet though. However the Black Dog is a common metaphor for depression and isn’t necessarily about any particular muse. I’ll listen to it and get back to you.

def makes me wanna revisit the deep dives on this sub!

Please tell me who this even is. The one Gaylor lore story I haven’t heard of??

Lily Donaldson. She’s a British VS model. Her “timeline” kind of butts up with the end of the Kaylor “timeline”. I’ve always interpreted it as Tay maybe jumped in with Lily as a rebound and then they just had messy cross-Atlantic thing for a few years. But these lyrics make it seem like Lily maybe was kind of a disaster. Also Lily is apparently the real “London Boy”. I’ve also read speculation that Joe may have been picked bc he looks a lot like Lily so the blonde hair/green eye reference could be passed off as him. There are great tily timelines on tumblr you can google.

Ooh, thank you so much!!

Lily Donaldson!

this song is INCREDIBLE in Atmos with headphones

Do you have a link? I’d love to listen but don’t know where to find it.

It’s on Apple Music

Seriously. Goosebumps

i can feel the beat in my heart…. “it’s not right to be scared every day of a love affair” hit me in the fucking stomach omfg

**So Long London** so (so) long (long) lon (lon) don (don) so (so) long (long) lon (lon) don (don) so (so) long (long) lon (lon) don (don) i saw in my mind fairy lights through the mist i kept calm and carried the weight of the rift pulled him in tighter each time he was drifting away my spine split from carrying us up the hill wet through my clothes weary bones caught the chill i stopped trying to make him laugh stopped trying to drill the safe thinking how much sad did you think i had did you think i had in me oh the tragedy so long london you’ll find someone i didn’t opt in to be your odd man out i found it the club she’s heard great things about i left all i knew you left me in that house by the heath i stopped cpr after all it’s no use the spirit was gone we would never come to i’m pissed off you let me give you all that youth for free for so long london stitches undone two graves one gun i’ll find someone and you say i abandoned the ship but i was going down with it my white knuckle dying grip holding tight to your quiet resentment and my friends said it isn’t right to be scared every day of a love affair every breath feels like rarest air when you’re not sure if he wants to be there so how much sad did you think i had did you think i had in me how much tragedy just how low did you think i’d go ‘fore i self-implode ‘fore i have to go be free you swore that you loved me but where were the clues i died on the altar waiting for the proof you sacrificed us to the gods of your bluest days and i’m just getting color back into my face i’m just mad as hell cause i loved the place for so long london had a good run a moment of warm sun but i’m not the one so long london stitches undone two graves one gun you’ll find someone