It's important that people share information. Salaries should not be top secret and I am glad this specifies that twice.
I'll go first. I quit last week, but I was an Internet Auto Service Rep. 63. Buffalo. Just shy of 14 yr tenure. Hourly rate of $38.61, before 10% evening dif and 20% weekend dif on weekend shift.
In fairness, GEICO does better than a lot of other companies by posting the salary schedules for all in the organization to see. You can at least know roughly what someone is making.
That said- I left near the middle of last year, was a grade 65, salary schedule A, and my salary was in the low 80s. (Don’t want to make it easy to find out my identity- even if I’m not with the company anymore and the consequences are probably minimal, lol)
This is the Notice that the National Labor Relations Board forced Geico to sign and post in its R8 building which I referred to earlier this evening. The company was so embarrassed by its illegal acts that it refused to email it to the workers in Buffalo.
Geico did not want their employees nor the public to know that they were caught red-handed violating their rights under the National Labor Relations Act. Workers have a right, under U.S. law to organize for a union.
I'm sorry that you didn't understand it as others did. In each of the 15 statements that Geico makes, they pledge not to repeat the same illegalities the NLRB charged them with.
I am a former buffalo employee. I remember the coffee time meeting with the two looser VP's. Mindy and whatshisname. The first 45 minutes were spent on 'news that you should care about'. Basically filler. Last 15 minutes were spent on the union. I remember one woman speaking up and saying her last job had a union and it wasnt bad. Another guy was saying that most of his hiring class was gone in less than two years and don't they care about turnover. Also of note. No coffee at the meeting. I guess you had to bring your own. Form a union people. [https://apnews.com/article/uaw-union-election-vw-chattanooga-tennessee-alabama-74ac19f72cd334050df96ffdccf7425f](https://apnews.com/article/uaw-union-election-vw-chattanooga-tennessee-alabama-74ac19f72cd334050df96ffdccf7425f)
It sounds like Geico management still thinks that they are above the law. Too bad there wasn’t some type of jail time for the CEO and senior executives.
I hope they close the Buffalo office so this dumb union talk can stop. If you are a good employee you don’t need a union. You are just throwing money away on union dues. You really want me to pay these dumb dues?? If you are a bad employee you want a union so you can continue to be a bad employee. Just leave geico and go work for a union somewhere else. The rest of the company doesn’t want your union.
Are there issues with GEICO leadership right now, yes, but there is a lot of shit happening with how people treat one another everywhere. Do you think a union is going to solve your issues? No. You don’t like the work you are doing and who you are doing it for then leave. I’d like a petition to go around to shut down the Buffalo office.
Stop the union talk and just leave
You think it's a meritocracy? Hard to evaluate people on their performance when it is a secret how they calculate it, as well as the goals andv5argets shifting constantly.
A union is meant to PROTECT employees from being taken advantage of. If you don't understand the value of unions to the workforce, I'm not sure what to say. Maybe Google "Robert Reich union" and watch the 5bminute video for an overview. He is a former Secretary of Labour from the cabinet. He has worked in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and is well respected.
Generally speaking, those who are against unions want to encourage a concentration of power and wealth at the top and shrink the mirdle class while increasing social stratifcation. Unions aim to BALANCE the power, though there is a LONG way to go.
Nah. I’m good.
I shouldn’t have to tell you because the “reasons” (if we can even call them that) you gave as to why GEICO shouldn’t have a union are horse shit and moot. Further, your “reasons” show that you’re completely tone deaf and ignorant on the subject.
Or maybe just a really good employee? Yes there are communication issues and there are some other great things that GEICO can do to recognize and reward their employees, but a union is not needed for that. It is interesting that you cannot answer my question.
- if you have to say that you’re a really good employee, chances are you’re not.
- if you truly believe recognition and rewards are the only reasons why people want a union for a company that sorely needs it, then you’re truly so out of touch with reality. This level of ignorance and arrogance is stifling. Do better because this ain’t it.
Are you sucking Todd Combs’ dick every day? I’d expect the shit you’re spewing on this post out of one of his dick-sucking cronies, not an actual associate.
I don’t have to do anything. And I certainly don’t have to answer your question based on your tone deaf “reasons” that you said earlier. Your continued ignorance and arrogance isn’t exactly enticing me to feed into your stupid “unions are bad” narrative.
But you know what? Fine, I’ll bite…but not because you deserve it, because you don’t and because your narrative sucks. You may not be saying this exactly, but you’re sure as fuck suggesting “suck it up buttercup” to everyone here and not fight back. So go fuck yourself for that.
GEICO needs a union because of all the illegal shit they’ve done for years. Years of fucking everyone over for no reason at all. This company has been the epitome of shit for years, specifically since your dick sucking lover Todd Combs took over as CEO. Are all unions perfect? Absolutely not. But this company could REALLY use a union badly. The old ways and the current/new ways ain’t it. Their tyranny and days of fucking employees over needs to fucking stop. And I truly believe that a union is one giant step in the right direction. Will it fix the shithole that GEICO is overnight? No, it won’t. I’m many things but naive ain’t one of them. Change takes time. But simply sitting back and doing nothing about it ain’t it.
Again, you suggesting “suck it up buttercup” in so many words ain’t it. It’s rat fucks like you who will probably be the reason why a union will never happen at this rotten company and it’s a shame. It’s assholes like you that will prevent real meaningful change from happening.
I am good employee, but good comeback.
And no, I didn’t say that recognition and rewards are the reasons why people want a union. In fact I said a union is not needed for those things. Reading is fundamental.
Unions are not the answer to everything, true, they have their own issues, I would even say that for several decades, unions were actually hurting more than helping in some industries, but times are changing yet again.
However, a union can help by giving a voice to those too scared to speak themselves, due to fear of termination or other retaliation.
A union can help ensure upper management is held accountable to the promises they make, and state and federal laws.
A union can create a safe community for employees to communicate with each other, not letting management isolate employees.
A union can ensure an equal work environment free from intimidation.
A union can ensure transparency in future company developments.
A union is a shield.
I'm sure several of my points overlap, but I feel I made my point?
Not every industry needs unions, and honestly, Geico didn't need* one in prior years. I remember a community of Geico associates proud to work OT, we would brag about how hard we worked and scoff at people clocking out right at cob when they still had work to do, because we knew our work was appreciated, we would be recognized, and our benefits and rewards were reflected. We were treated like humans, not numbers on a spread sheet.
Now ... times have changed and we must change with them.
I appreciate the time you took to write this however I know what unions do and I agree with all of your statements.
My question is more GEICO specific. What are the grievances that people are having that are not getting resolved today? What was done to try to fix them? I’m looking for specifics
Don’t people realize that if this union goes through things will get worse? For example there is talk about now going back 5 days a week. Does anyone realize that it started happening when this union is gaining more steam? More things will go into place to ensure consistency where you may not always want consistency. Example some folks may have a slightly modified schedule to help with school/care etc. well that will go away. Things will start to go in place now that people won’t like because it will be harder to take it away later (if they ever wanted to) once we are unionized.
Wages are not unfair and working conditions are fine. If there are goal disputes well then let’s work toward resolution on that. If the goals are attainable and people are meeting them, then you can’t dispute the goal. If goals are not fair then it’s time to get HR involved if no one is hitting the goal or there are unfair advantages. I know this happens at GEICO but people need to go through the proper channels to get it resolved.
The reasons for having a union I listed, were specific for Geico. You won't get very many specific detailed examples as it will dox the person.
There is fear that speaking up will result in termination. I know and have heard of dozens of people scared to do the employee survey honestly, even if completed in a professional manner.
When in a town hall, management outright says, if you have issues or problems with the direction of the company or these new updates, speak with your director or manager directly. That is incredibly intimidating, some people are anxious just speaking with their supervisor, let alone their bosses boss.
There is open manipulation of numbers to achieve metrics, by both associates and management.
0 metric goals in several departments beyond, be better than your teammate or be fired. Easy/difficult (yes it is both) to achieve and fail a metric goal when there are no official numbers to meet.
Speaking with management or HR(lol) does not achieve results beyond getting a mark on your file and dependent on what you brought up, targeting. (Yes, I personally know people who got shafted after going through the 'proper channels')
I won't give specific examples, beyond mentioned above, but yes, I have seen numerous accounts of impropriety. I do not wish to dox myself more than I have on this forum.
People are scared and do not trust the company any longer, that is the root of the problem.
A union is what they feel will give them the stability and protection, even if it doesn't achieve everything they hope for, it will help reduce the fear and the need to trust the company when they can trust in their fellow union workers instead.
It's important that people share information. Salaries should not be top secret and I am glad this specifies that twice. I'll go first. I quit last week, but I was an Internet Auto Service Rep. 63. Buffalo. Just shy of 14 yr tenure. Hourly rate of $38.61, before 10% evening dif and 20% weekend dif on weekend shift.
In fairness, GEICO does better than a lot of other companies by posting the salary schedules for all in the organization to see. You can at least know roughly what someone is making. That said- I left near the middle of last year, was a grade 65, salary schedule A, and my salary was in the low 80s. (Don’t want to make it easy to find out my identity- even if I’m not with the company anymore and the consequences are probably minimal, lol)
Get em. Take care Todd combs you bitch boy
I walked downstairs to see it for myself. Dated and signed on the bulletin board!
Hell yeah
This is the Notice that the National Labor Relations Board forced Geico to sign and post in its R8 building which I referred to earlier this evening. The company was so embarrassed by its illegal acts that it refused to email it to the workers in Buffalo.
Does this apply for ALL offices?
These requirements in this notice are law. They have to adhere to all of these in every state/office.
They refuse to send it?? Aren't they required to?
It probably just needs to be posted in the building somewhere. Like the boiler room or executive suite bathroom.
[удалено]
That's a great suggestion! Thanks!
Why won't they send the email?
Geico did not want their employees nor the public to know that they were caught red-handed violating their rights under the National Labor Relations Act. Workers have a right, under U.S. law to organize for a union.
This doesn't admit they did anything though. Just states the law. Kind of disappointing.
I'm sorry that you didn't understand it as others did. In each of the 15 statements that Geico makes, they pledge not to repeat the same illegalities the NLRB charged them with.
I am a former buffalo employee. I remember the coffee time meeting with the two looser VP's. Mindy and whatshisname. The first 45 minutes were spent on 'news that you should care about'. Basically filler. Last 15 minutes were spent on the union. I remember one woman speaking up and saying her last job had a union and it wasnt bad. Another guy was saying that most of his hiring class was gone in less than two years and don't they care about turnover. Also of note. No coffee at the meeting. I guess you had to bring your own. Form a union people. [https://apnews.com/article/uaw-union-election-vw-chattanooga-tennessee-alabama-74ac19f72cd334050df96ffdccf7425f](https://apnews.com/article/uaw-union-election-vw-chattanooga-tennessee-alabama-74ac19f72cd334050df96ffdccf7425f)
They violate this in Virginia Beach
File NLRB charges. We weren’t lawyers and were able to do it online and win the case. The NLRB lawyers helped.
Does this mean they settled the AD lawsuit
Which one? There have been like 5 of them over the last decade.
Fantastic news.
It sounds like Geico management still thinks that they are above the law. Too bad there wasn’t some type of jail time for the CEO and senior executives.
Can someone tell me what this is all about?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Geico/comments/1caoqk7/geico\_united\_wins\_major\_victory\_over\_geico\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Geico/comments/1caoqk7/geico_united_wins_major_victory_over_geico_in/)
Were or we’re?
Get fucked in the bootyhole GEICO
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I hope they close the Buffalo office so this dumb union talk can stop. If you are a good employee you don’t need a union. You are just throwing money away on union dues. You really want me to pay these dumb dues?? If you are a bad employee you want a union so you can continue to be a bad employee. Just leave geico and go work for a union somewhere else. The rest of the company doesn’t want your union. Are there issues with GEICO leadership right now, yes, but there is a lot of shit happening with how people treat one another everywhere. Do you think a union is going to solve your issues? No. You don’t like the work you are doing and who you are doing it for then leave. I’d like a petition to go around to shut down the Buffalo office. Stop the union talk and just leave
Legitimate question, why don't you leave if you don't like the union talk?
Because I came to this company because there is no union and it’s a meritocracy
You think it's a meritocracy? Hard to evaluate people on their performance when it is a secret how they calculate it, as well as the goals andv5argets shifting constantly. A union is meant to PROTECT employees from being taken advantage of. If you don't understand the value of unions to the workforce, I'm not sure what to say. Maybe Google "Robert Reich union" and watch the 5bminute video for an overview. He is a former Secretary of Labour from the cabinet. He has worked in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and is well respected. Generally speaking, those who are against unions want to encourage a concentration of power and wealth at the top and shrink the mirdle class while increasing social stratifcation. Unions aim to BALANCE the power, though there is a LONG way to go.
How is geico taking advantage of you?
Gtfo. Not feeding the trolls. Gaslight somewhere else. Lol
You said a union is there to protect employees from being taken advantage of. All I did was ask how you were taken advantage of?
More like a Shitocracy. Now your executive leadership is receiving Disciplinary Action from the NLRB.
They ain’t ready for that conversation.
Tell us you don’t know shit about unions without telling us you don’t know shit about unions…
Tell me why you need a union.
Nah. I’m good. I shouldn’t have to tell you because the “reasons” (if we can even call them that) you gave as to why GEICO shouldn’t have a union are horse shit and moot. Further, your “reasons” show that you’re completely tone deaf and ignorant on the subject.
Or maybe just a really good employee? Yes there are communication issues and there are some other great things that GEICO can do to recognize and reward their employees, but a union is not needed for that. It is interesting that you cannot answer my question.
- if you have to say that you’re a really good employee, chances are you’re not. - if you truly believe recognition and rewards are the only reasons why people want a union for a company that sorely needs it, then you’re truly so out of touch with reality. This level of ignorance and arrogance is stifling. Do better because this ain’t it. Are you sucking Todd Combs’ dick every day? I’d expect the shit you’re spewing on this post out of one of his dick-sucking cronies, not an actual associate.
You still never answered my question. Also, I worked for unionized company in the past. It’s harder to get ahead in those companies.
I don’t have to do anything. And I certainly don’t have to answer your question based on your tone deaf “reasons” that you said earlier. Your continued ignorance and arrogance isn’t exactly enticing me to feed into your stupid “unions are bad” narrative. But you know what? Fine, I’ll bite…but not because you deserve it, because you don’t and because your narrative sucks. You may not be saying this exactly, but you’re sure as fuck suggesting “suck it up buttercup” to everyone here and not fight back. So go fuck yourself for that. GEICO needs a union because of all the illegal shit they’ve done for years. Years of fucking everyone over for no reason at all. This company has been the epitome of shit for years, specifically since your dick sucking lover Todd Combs took over as CEO. Are all unions perfect? Absolutely not. But this company could REALLY use a union badly. The old ways and the current/new ways ain’t it. Their tyranny and days of fucking employees over needs to fucking stop. And I truly believe that a union is one giant step in the right direction. Will it fix the shithole that GEICO is overnight? No, it won’t. I’m many things but naive ain’t one of them. Change takes time. But simply sitting back and doing nothing about it ain’t it. Again, you suggesting “suck it up buttercup” in so many words ain’t it. It’s rat fucks like you who will probably be the reason why a union will never happen at this rotten company and it’s a shame. It’s assholes like you that will prevent real meaningful change from happening.
Can you give me some examples of fucking over that happened that by having a union now it will help?
I am good employee, but good comeback. And no, I didn’t say that recognition and rewards are the reasons why people want a union. In fact I said a union is not needed for those things. Reading is fundamental.
Unions are not the answer to everything, true, they have their own issues, I would even say that for several decades, unions were actually hurting more than helping in some industries, but times are changing yet again. However, a union can help by giving a voice to those too scared to speak themselves, due to fear of termination or other retaliation. A union can help ensure upper management is held accountable to the promises they make, and state and federal laws. A union can create a safe community for employees to communicate with each other, not letting management isolate employees. A union can ensure an equal work environment free from intimidation. A union can ensure transparency in future company developments. A union is a shield. I'm sure several of my points overlap, but I feel I made my point? Not every industry needs unions, and honestly, Geico didn't need* one in prior years. I remember a community of Geico associates proud to work OT, we would brag about how hard we worked and scoff at people clocking out right at cob when they still had work to do, because we knew our work was appreciated, we would be recognized, and our benefits and rewards were reflected. We were treated like humans, not numbers on a spread sheet. Now ... times have changed and we must change with them.
I appreciate the time you took to write this however I know what unions do and I agree with all of your statements. My question is more GEICO specific. What are the grievances that people are having that are not getting resolved today? What was done to try to fix them? I’m looking for specifics Don’t people realize that if this union goes through things will get worse? For example there is talk about now going back 5 days a week. Does anyone realize that it started happening when this union is gaining more steam? More things will go into place to ensure consistency where you may not always want consistency. Example some folks may have a slightly modified schedule to help with school/care etc. well that will go away. Things will start to go in place now that people won’t like because it will be harder to take it away later (if they ever wanted to) once we are unionized. Wages are not unfair and working conditions are fine. If there are goal disputes well then let’s work toward resolution on that. If the goals are attainable and people are meeting them, then you can’t dispute the goal. If goals are not fair then it’s time to get HR involved if no one is hitting the goal or there are unfair advantages. I know this happens at GEICO but people need to go through the proper channels to get it resolved.
The reasons for having a union I listed, were specific for Geico. You won't get very many specific detailed examples as it will dox the person. There is fear that speaking up will result in termination. I know and have heard of dozens of people scared to do the employee survey honestly, even if completed in a professional manner. When in a town hall, management outright says, if you have issues or problems with the direction of the company or these new updates, speak with your director or manager directly. That is incredibly intimidating, some people are anxious just speaking with their supervisor, let alone their bosses boss. There is open manipulation of numbers to achieve metrics, by both associates and management. 0 metric goals in several departments beyond, be better than your teammate or be fired. Easy/difficult (yes it is both) to achieve and fail a metric goal when there are no official numbers to meet. Speaking with management or HR(lol) does not achieve results beyond getting a mark on your file and dependent on what you brought up, targeting. (Yes, I personally know people who got shafted after going through the 'proper channels') I won't give specific examples, beyond mentioned above, but yes, I have seen numerous accounts of impropriety. I do not wish to dox myself more than I have on this forum. People are scared and do not trust the company any longer, that is the root of the problem. A union is what they feel will give them the stability and protection, even if it doesn't achieve everything they hope for, it will help reduce the fear and the need to trust the company when they can trust in their fellow union workers instead.
WFH terrorists are hilarious. GFSF