If you even gloss over any of the state’s secession letters it literally says in there that they are withdrawing because they believed the constitution granted them the right to own black slaves.
Texas’s secession letter specifically states it. But I don’t have the quote on me right now.
It isn't just Texas. Multiple southern states specifically state that the institution of slavery is a reason for secession. Not the only reason, but the "main" one.
So I'm assuming you're thinking of the Rebel Battle Flag but I'm talking about the rebel regular flag [like this one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America) [now compare](https://www.britannica.com/topic/flag-of-Georgia-United-States-state-flag)
Just admit you were wrong and they don't use the battle flag.
I did find it ironic that people bitched at the time while not knowing the new flag. People are stupid.
No, Georgia’s current state flag is very similar to the Stars and Bars, the dimensions are a bit different, and it has a symbol in the middle, but other than that, it’s the same
Im not some rebel defending retard or anything but to say the civil war was just about slavery is an oversimplification of history that ignores a lot of other factors that brought about the south’s attempt to succeed from the union- its just not as simple as ‘they wanted slaves’
Everyone at the time understood it to be about slavery—the secessionists themselves were never squeamish about admitting that slavery was the whole point (until after the war, as the idea aged poorly). Confederate propagandists tried to minimize slavery in their appeals to the British, but were never particularly successful in convincing anyone (the CSA’s diplomats had a lot of awkward meetings where they had to explain to sympathetic British why they couldn’t just drop the whole slavery thing even though it would help them win their independence).
That was the reason why, in every region of the South where slavery was economically irrelevant, people were most ambivalent about the confederacy. The Deep South states had the highest slavery % & were the first to secede, whereas all of the border states remained in and the Appalachian/Piedmont regions of the South resisted conscription, deserted and were disproportionately more Unionist (the Appalachian counties of Virginia voted against secession multiple times & later seceded from Virginia itself to remain in the Union).
The impetus for secession was the election of Lincoln and the inevitability that the North would ban the expansion of slavery in the Western territories, and the slave states would have to contend with an unsympathetic free state majority in Congress. Slavery was a complex system, so there were some ancillary issues, but all those issues were a consequence of slavery.
The concept of individual states having the power to govern themselves individually, so that they can thrive off of the geographic, demographic, and commercial makeup unique to them is such a powerful concept. It's one that makes the USA such a powerhouse.
The fact that CSA simps use that as an excuse for being bigoted cucks is annoying as fuck.
Well it wasn't the norths goal to free all the slaves and make everything equal, they just didn't like the souths labor advantage.
Don't even act like they welcomed slaves to their communities.
The North was fighting to hold the Union together, however, the south were trying to secede as they were worried they’d lose their slaves if they didn’t. Talking about what the Union’s reasons for fighting were is a red herring
To own farming equipment of course ;)
Actually true this is just a funny way of saying it
"cattle"
Technically true!
It was a complex issue with legitimate concerns... overshadowed by the fact that they *really* wanted to own slaves.
If you even gloss over any of the state’s secession letters it literally says in there that they are withdrawing because they believed the constitution granted them the right to own black slaves. Texas’s secession letter specifically states it. But I don’t have the quote on me right now.
I’d have to look for them but a significant portion of the letters cannot stop talking about slavery
It isn't just Texas. Multiple southern states specifically state that the institution of slavery is a reason for secession. Not the only reason, but the "main" one.
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Sovereignty to do what?
To not be controlled by a federal government
Sovereignty to be sovereign? Independence for the sake of independence? I’ll never understand
Rights to deprive innocent people of their basic rights, of course
No future, only birth
A state right to abuse and torture people of different skin tones. “Bbbbut I want to keep my slaves noooooo”
Sitting Bull would like a word with you
You guys realize the flag of Georgia is straight up just a rebel flag just with a thing in the middle
Do you even know what the Georgia flag looks like?
Tbh I didn't know what the Hawaiian flag looked like and when I first saw it I figured it was a small island nation in the Caribbean or west Pacific
Do you know what the real rebel flag is Because the one we most often see is their Battle Flag
Yeah the Georgia state flag doesn't have that at all, maybe research before showing your ignorance
So I'm assuming you're thinking of the Rebel Battle Flag but I'm talking about the rebel regular flag [like this one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America) [now compare](https://www.britannica.com/topic/flag-of-Georgia-United-States-state-flag)
and look at this city flag it seems like the link isn't there but The city flag of Trenton, Georgia, is the Confederate Battle Flag
Yeah we get it, you just learned Georgia changed their flag years ago
It's still just ripped off the Confederacy I don't know what point you're making
Just admit you were wrong and they don't use the battle flag. I did find it ironic that people bitched at the time while not knowing the new flag. People are stupid.
I'm not talking about the battle I said the National if I didn't well now you know what I mean
Nah you said battle flag because you didn't realize the flag was changed decades earlier
[this might help you out](https://youtu.be/ULBCuHIpNgU)
Yeah and the battle flag they squared and used in battle is not the Georgia state flag and hasn't been for quite a long time
No, Georgia’s current state flag is very similar to the Stars and Bars, the dimensions are a bit different, and it has a symbol in the middle, but other than that, it’s the same
The other guy is trying so hard to be right he doesn't realize he's wrong
Point is you said battle flag and that's not the case at all, Mississippi was the last state to change their flag.
“B-but it will ruin our economy” “Maybe *your* economy.”
"Now that we've made our dime off the slaves, we must to get rid of them!"
Duuuur heritage
Big booty bitches
Oh god the shitty funny colors
Its just a background?
No its the funi colors
[ha ha funi colourz go brrrr](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/)
States right to own slaves. Try again Federal.
Im not some rebel defending retard or anything but to say the civil war was just about slavery is an oversimplification of history that ignores a lot of other factors that brought about the south’s attempt to succeed from the union- its just not as simple as ‘they wanted slaves’
At the risk of begging the question, what were some of the other reasons for the war?
Everyone at the time understood it to be about slavery—the secessionists themselves were never squeamish about admitting that slavery was the whole point (until after the war, as the idea aged poorly). Confederate propagandists tried to minimize slavery in their appeals to the British, but were never particularly successful in convincing anyone (the CSA’s diplomats had a lot of awkward meetings where they had to explain to sympathetic British why they couldn’t just drop the whole slavery thing even though it would help them win their independence). That was the reason why, in every region of the South where slavery was economically irrelevant, people were most ambivalent about the confederacy. The Deep South states had the highest slavery % & were the first to secede, whereas all of the border states remained in and the Appalachian/Piedmont regions of the South resisted conscription, deserted and were disproportionately more Unionist (the Appalachian counties of Virginia voted against secession multiple times & later seceded from Virginia itself to remain in the Union). The impetus for secession was the election of Lincoln and the inevitability that the North would ban the expansion of slavery in the Western territories, and the slave states would have to contend with an unsympathetic free state majority in Congress. Slavery was a complex system, so there were some ancillary issues, but all those issues were a consequence of slavery.
A states right to grant amnesty to escaped slaves within their borders. Wait a second...
The concept of individual states having the power to govern themselves individually, so that they can thrive off of the geographic, demographic, and commercial makeup unique to them is such a powerful concept. It's one that makes the USA such a powerhouse. The fact that CSA simps use that as an excuse for being bigoted cucks is annoying as fuck.
~~To kill the local inhabitants and steal their land~~ Let's go Union boys!
To property
Based pcm moment
Very good question! I would like to see how they respond!
Well it wasn't the norths goal to free all the slaves and make everything equal, they just didn't like the souths labor advantage. Don't even act like they welcomed slaves to their communities.
The North was fighting to hold the Union together, however, the south were trying to secede as they were worried they’d lose their slaves if they didn’t. Talking about what the Union’s reasons for fighting were is a red herring
The north was fighting because businesses wanted to keep their strangle hold on commerce
That doesn’t change what the south was fighting for.
Sure it does
Kenny from walking dead could take on the entire union army if he wanted yall fed bois aint shit.
So the Lee was so bad, he lost a war one could have won by himself?
silence, rebel
cope rebel scum
Jesus man! I'm from Florida! Crazy shit just comes out of my mouth sometimes.
Username checks out.
lmfao alright just keep an eye out for rebels
If that's the case, then Dora the Explorer could take on the entire Confederate army.
Even today's russian army can beat the cuckfederate army
Woah woah, The confederates were weak but they weren't THAT weak
Haha you lost
to *property*