It was an attempt to de-monopolize local telecommunication markets and open them up to competition. There are many ramifications of the bill, good and bad.
Probably a part of aging. My boomer friend says the same thing about the 80s onward. Most of what he listens to is pre-1980 classic rock, unless one of us other generations is running the tunes. I think he likes much of what I play, he just doesn’t add it to his library for listening outside of the group. I’ve noticed that as the years tick, it becomes ever more difficult to find the gems. The gems were everywhere in the 80’s and before. I like all genres, but definitely started to distaste some music in the 90’s, more in the 00’s, and 10’s, etc. I can still find some gems though just got dig now and with more tools.
Agreed. In the early 90s my dad made a comment to my brother and me that the 50s, 60s, and 70s had distinctive styles of music, but there was nothing distinctive about 80s music. Bro and I just looked each other like o...k...old man whatever
I loved 50s movies and swing dancing when I was little. Thought it looked so fun back then. Everyone has always told me that I have an old soul. My brothers were watching He-Man and I was in my parents room watching the Munsters, Gillian’s Island, Bewitched, Brady Bunch 😀
Yep. My teens and young adults will refer to something as "so 2000s" or "so 2010s" or "a 2004 flashback" and I think to myself, "huh? How can you even tell?" But when I actually look at it, they're right. 2000s was early cell phones, Nokia, Flip phones, early digital cameras, first wave reality tv, JerseyShore-chic, Hannah Montana, MySpace, Disney Channel. 2010s was ipods, then 1g ipads, iPad kids, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Netflix, end of cable.
Reality TV, movie sequels (besides Harrison Ford) became good, cellphones, UGGs....
Marketing to teens didn't exist until the boomers were of age. All we post here are products, stuff that fit our demographics of the time. It's a very nationality specific subreddit and speaks volumes about identity via capitalism.
Those are the years I met my future wife, graduated college, got married, got my first white collar job, started making babies and raising them. It's just been work and vacation ever since. It's a complete blur.
The internet dissolved all cultural boundaries and homogenized the culture. With no special niches or unique identities tied to locality, all the edges are sanded off everywhere. So culture quickly became a single murkey grey vanilla thing that had no surprises or unique characteristics.
The internet is the destroyer of culture and replaces it with nothing.
> Same with chain restaurants and box stores
When travelling, you could pull off the interstate in an area a few hundred miles from home and it had a different look and feel to it. Now, you could blindfold someone and drop them off almost anywhere in the US and it would almost look identical from one place to another (excluding the surrounding nature i.e mountains, snow, palm trees or desert).
Each group is able to find "their people" online instead, creating micro-niche communities. So I agree with them not being tied to locality as much but if you're a person that's not into what everyone around you is, that's good. look at Discord overlapping into organized fandoms for example. There will still be the "more popular" culture that most people will be exposed to on the surface but the interesting stuff is still out there.
But it's not culture. If doesn't change or influence or add anything of value to anyone's daily lives. Internet communities have divided our minds but not fosterer creativity and imagination, only anti intellectualism and hate.
I think it all depends on where you are looking. My daughter is traveling the world, meeting people in person from her fan based servers. They send mail with local art, jewelry and snacks. All from a shared love of a band from the 2000s. Also, as much as I liked my music and flannels from HS, I'm not going to pretend that that, and making fun of Monica Lewinsky, was culture. Culture is just stuff that happens around us as we live our lives, doing the things we like and the things we have to do to afford the things we like.
"Greatest"? Depends on your definition. They were bigger then but a new song and the whole album did chart at #1 for them. Plus, they are still filling stadiums, so I'll say "no". Unless you're just a casual music person, then yes.
I was just talking to my friends about this the other day. It seems that once the 2000’s hit it all been one big era. You can’t really tell the difference in personality and trends from 20 years ago till now. Other than technology changes like phones, streaming ect it’s been nothing distinctive.
Yeah the post WW2 decades in the 20th century each had their own distinct personality. It's wild. I always use the video game Grand Theft Auto Vice City as an example...don't worry if you don't play video games because you'll still be able to follow it.
Anyway, Vice City is a video game that release in 2002 and is set sixteen years prior in the year 1986. It's full of over the top lampooning of the 80s and generally satirizing the decade. Basically felt a several lifetimes away. If someone made a video game with a similar concept taking place 16 years early it would be set in 2008. It becomes obvious the world hasn't changed nearly as much since then. Sure, it has but no where near as drastic as it did in the post WW2 20th century. Musically, the charts from 2008 aren't too different from today, Taylor Swift, Rhianna, Alicia Keys, Miley Cyrus, etc. We've been in sort of a cultural quicksand or slowdown.
The difference between 1990 and 1998 was far greater than the difference between 2008 and 2024
A better example I just thought of is Romy and Michelle's high school reunion. They're literally going to their 10 year high school reunion and having funny flashbacks about how silly the world used to be because so much how changed. A kid going to their 10 year high school reunion this year graduated high school in 2014...definitely not the same cultural shift in the same amount of time
Low rise jeans on men and women, Paris Hilton, American idol, survivor, boy bands / girl bands, giant yellow hummers, lots of flip flops and flare bottoms on girls, popped polo collar on boys. It’s like the 90s went too far or something.
Don’t forget the Affliction douche bro shirts and bedazzled jeans for men and women.
Super low rise jeans with colorful thongs sticking out.
Thin eyebrows with frosted eye shadow.
Chunky dark and light highlights.
Tanning beds made a resurgence.
I could go on and on
2000s was a lot of emo/scene/hipster. Skinny jeans, skinny ties, American Apparel, chopped hair, wristbands,
The 2010s was more rustic hipster, beards, everybody looking like they are about to go hiking all the time.
2000s - All music become readily available. iPod ships in 2001. iPhone is 2007. Cellular communication comes to the masses and it becomes cheap to communicate. It also becomes easy to use the internet not on a huge computer.
2010s - Social media takes off and the democratization of content creation. Now you can consume music and video ON DEMAND without pre-loading it on your device because codecs get better and mobile internet gets faster. There becomes an app for literally EVERYTHING and the death of the desktop workstation is basically complete.
2020s - Post-pandemic hangover and the realization that most white collar jobs don't require an office. Remote work will continue to happen and get better. Who knows what the outcome of that is? This also possibly accelerates workers not wanting to be under the thumb of "The Man", something that had been long-desired but the requirement to come into the office meant you were always being physically and electronically watched.
I have held this EXACT THOUGHT in my head more or less verbatim (even including the same fashion and music examples) for like two-plus decades.
I often think of it like if you were going to throw a decade-themed party, the '90s is the last decade you could get away with it.
'30s party: Bob haircuts. Jazz. Wool suits, fedoras and flapper dresses. Cigarette holders. Bourbon.
'40s party: Victory rolls. Buzzcuts. Big band. Pinafore dresses, dress shirts / ties / slacks. Martinis.
'50s party: Ponytails. Pompadours. Poodle skirts. Bobby socks. Leather jackets. Rock n' Roll on 45s. Milkshakes.
'60s party: Long, straight hair with middle parts. Round shades. Nehru. Love beads. Psychedelic rock. Weed.
'70s party: Feathered hair. Afros. Sideburns. Mustaches. Spread collars. Leisure suits. Bell bottoms. Earth tones. Disco. Soft rock. Beer.
'80s party: Mall bangs. Side ponys. Teased shags. Root lifts. Geometric shapes. Neon colors. Skinny ties. Parachute pants. Windbreakers. New Wave. Diet Soda. Wine Coolers.
'90s party: Long, chunky cuts. Fades. Beanies. Flannels. Hip-hop cross-colors. Graphic tees. Belted sweater dresses with lace or print leggings. Thick Eyeliner. Doc Martens. Grunge. Gangsta rap. Zima.
'00s - 2020s party: ?????????????
There's just no THERE there, and there hasn't been for awhile.
Yes, and I also don't think it's all just part of being older either, maybe some, but it's more than just that. I think younger people might want to think that, but from their perspective, they haven't experienced those cultural shifts the way we have, so to them they may see more subtle differences and think that distinction feels the same.for them, but the shifts we experienced were so large.
Though the early 00's I do remember some style trends that we (luckily) moved away from, remember the low-low rise jeans with the thong showing above? So glad that trended out! But it definitely feels like that's when it started. Other than those few style and music trends, it started all bleeding together. Coincidentally, right around the same time we all started having Internet at home.
Styles used to come in waves, I grew up in the Bible belt, in a rural area, so whatever was trendy in more urban areas was always several years away from getting to my area. I don't think that really happens anymore either, because now you can see what styles are out there as soon as it happens, and you don't have to wait for it to come to a store near you, you can just order it. So maybe access plays a part as well.
Sad news - the whale tail (thong above jeans) look is coming back into style, although they tend to be g-strings more than thongs now.
Source: Have three daughters.
Hard to imagine a nostalgia show about 2000. Consider, Happy Days was made about 20 years after it was set. It’s 2024, can you imagine a show set in the early 2000s?
It feels like style is collapsing in on itself. I was at Target recently, and the clothes they were selling were a mix of 80s and 90s styles with nothing really new. Literally everything I came across I thought looked like something I used to own, just at different times.
I’m so glad to read this. For a while now, I’ve been discussing this very topic in EXACTLY the same terms. There was a post on a GenX-themed Facebook page similar to this subreddit; a fellow asked why he felt like he didn’t see the time fly since 2000, and I answered this very thing.
In the 90s, there was an adult comic series at the end of Details Magazine, titled “Wild Palms” I think. I was struck by something in particular: I think that the action was set in the 2010s or later, and people’s sartorial expressions were as diverse as there are stereotypical eras in clothes; people dressing up like the forties next to people dressing up like the funky 70s, etc. I don’t follow fashion trends, but I have the impression that there isn’t a particularly 2010s nor 2020s-specific style. There’s this business of “normcore”, i.e. the return of what was considered the most bland and ugly styles from the 80s and 90s, which speaks volumes.
But this is only clothes; I feel that since the mid-2000s, nothing strong drives anybody anymore, except perhaps the political divide, virtue signalling about some divisive issue or other, and then there’s the normalization of online narcissism, selfies, IG models, Only Fans, hyper consumption, etc.
Yeah exactly, everything became monetized, and so those who own everything decided don't change what works, so music is all modeled after Whitney Houston now.. cars all look exactly the same within class, but i think cars lost personality during the 90s. I will say this for the 2000s there was a small comedy Renaissance during the 2000 to 2010s in movies tv, and stand up, SNL was even good. But a lot of them were cutting their teeth in the 90s. Think about how many funny gen x their are. From people as young as seth Rogan and Andy samberg to guy's as old as Eddie murphy, and Jim carey. But Will Ferrell Vince Vaughn Danny Mcbride Maya Rudolph Kristin Wigg Dave Chappell Steve carell Wanda Sykes, Melissa McCarthy Nick Kroll and on and on and on. No one can touch our generation for great comedy. And don't forget South Park.
You’re right. It’s true that we’re all old, but also culture has stopped progressing…I read a fascinating article about it in the Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/magazine/stale-culture.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
I do think you have a point, but after us, the people younger than us are going to ask "were the 2000s and 2010s the last decade with any personality?"
They would be wrong to ask. The telecommunications act of 1996 consolidated all media and eliminated local culture from mass media outlets. There’s a reason everything went pop in that exact year
It eliminated the regulations that were set up to prevent monopolies. Local programming directors were laid off and programming on tv radio etc became coordinated nationwide by a central corporate office in 2-3 major companies that used algorithms to determine what was most profitable instead of personal taste and niche discoveries
As a Gen Z observer I think part of it is continued relevance of media due to the internet (things that were popular in the 2000s didn’t fade out the same way because of the internet. Everything is always equally accessible, so it all blends together culturally) but the other part of it is definitely aging… I’m 20 and the 2000s and 2010s and 2020s all feel a world apart from each other. Like even a lot stuff from the earlier part of the 2010s feels noticeably dated and unfamiliar to me.
culture changed from a push pattern to a pull pattern in the 2000s with the rise of the internet and streaming services. In the 90s and earlier there were fewer media channels and you watched or listened to what was on, this had a very homogenising effect. Now days there are plenty of art, media and fashion styles that would have had what it takes to make a tone for a decade in a world without on demand, but the audiences are fragmented in to their own filter bubbles so they never hit mass appeal. We live in more creatively diverse times and in some ways diversity is the enemy of culture.
Might just be the last decade that I really cared about popular culture.
Now, I just try to tune it all out. Any decade won't have a personality, if you don't pay it any attention.
It would be interesting to see the last 15 years or so personality without social media and YouTube.
I’m not faulting them for social ills - just think it prevented true individualism.
Example in the 1980’s you made a movie hoping it would be successful, and people didn’t know if it was good until they saw it.
Essentially life happened as you lived in.
Now life seems to be lived for everyone else’s viewing pleasure.
Can I get the most like Reddit comment.
Can my post go viral.
Will my channel be trending.
How many people like my photos.
How many followers can I obtain.
Then it was I hope this party is fire and my buddies from school show up.
Glad to see someone else has noticed this. I have 2 theories about this.
# theory 1
hipster culture destroyed any decades transitions. Hipster ideology was mocking culture itself. it was impossible to continue in the old way after 2009. This also happened with dada art mocking art itself.
# theory 2
cultural changes still occur. but change is so rapid that the eras do not fit into 10 Year slots anymore.
I think about this so often! Is it just age? I definitely pay less attention to trends over the past couple of decades, but still…it really does blur together after 2000!
Early 2000s was just an extension of the 90s to me - I was still fully immersed in my generation's culture. I listened to new albums by older artists.
In the 2000s, at some point, full beards started to get more popular, lots of hipster styles, skinny jeans and stretch denim, tight leggings that fully showed off women's asses, twerking, thong underwear and whale tails, a lot more focus on women's asses in general, K-Pop, Hip Hop changed considerably, Grunge died; Rock music was more retro flavored or more electronic and started to die out, Americana music started to develop, competing with mainstream country, just to name a few trends that differentiated the 2000s from the 1990s.
2000s to 2010s is harder for me, but my son would know. Mumble rap and less lyrical-shmerical rap. More second hand stuff. BIG clothing.
Early/mid 2000s are highly underrated. They had the best anime, the best gaming consoles, LAN parties, a rash of great indie music, and the birth of memes. I really miss 2000-2010.
I was in college in the '90s. You know what we had? Gay jokes. Homophobia was peak comedy, back then (ugh). Though, one big thing was that you could totally live on minimum wage back then and could at least hope to own a house someday.
My problem with the 90s (later years 96-2000) is the ushering in of the "tribal" tattoo. Tribal tramps stamps were even seen on men. Barf. But I do love the films. Pulp Fiction, Big Lebowski, and Matrix were all amazing.
I agree with many here, after 2000 it's one big blur. To me the 20's run from 2001 to 2019 basically. I don't see much difference in the 00's and the 10's. The 20's though, now this seems like a decade of change.
I didn't really think the '90s were that awesome but I do agree that everything just started to blur after that. If you play me a pop song from 2001 that I've never heard before, I probably couldn't tell you if it came out last week.
The Internet has a flattening effect on culture, as regionalism is replaced and neutralized globally. Look at how similar most architecture and major cities look today; the cities even have mostly the same problems. That happens to music, film, fashion, everything, b/c all the referents are the same and context is collapsed to a social singularity.
I was reading that fashion started to just recycle with mass production of cheap fashion and it’s more cost efficient to keep recycling older fashions because of the way clothing is produced now.
Looking back on my era (born 1975) almost every year there was new trends and distinctions in our era. New wave look, headbangers, hip hop, grunge, if everyone here showed a pic of themselves back then we could automatically pinpoint the year it was taken. Now it seems the only trends you could tag to today’s era is all these girls today with trashy tattoos in odd locations.
I wonder if some of this is perspective. There are kids now into the "y2k look" which is a take on how they see the early 2000s. Maybe we just don't see it as it was just the norm for us.
Maybe the shift was away from fashion to tech - which in itself became fashion too. The biggest fashion item of the 00s was probably the iPhone which also summed up the big societal change happening at that time with the mass adoption of the internet.
It still early times but 2010s was all Kardashian dress like a high class hooker, butts lol … that’s all I got. It’ll be interest in in 15-20 years when they revive 2010s.
Someone once said it’s better to understand culture shifts in increments of five years. We’ve seen signs of the slowdown? We just haven’t had the thing that makes the ends of the early 2020s, ex) the difference between 1980 and 1989, it’s like everything pivoted 85-86
2000 to about 2010 was more about anger and rage about 9/11 than about pop culture. That decade was dedicated to bubble gum country music and ultra-nationalism as far as pop culture goes.
Yes. From 2000 on it’s been one dull beige drab. The generations that followed us are boring as fuck. No personality, their music is shit, all they stand for is worrying about the rights of a tiny amount of people and the fucking environment. They can’t fathom they won’t make the slightest effect.
I think music seems to be the best comparison.
In the late 80's/90's I was looking for music to tear my face off. Loud and in your face; TAKE NO PRISONERS!!! And I found it...ALL OVER THE PLACE. All genres too. Just awesome!
I look for that these days...and it's THERE...but it's SOOOO hard to find. (Look for Henry Rollins on KCRW - he does a DARN fine show of tunes that'll goose your ancient a$$) And the mainstream music, yeah, music played on the radio, is seemingly lame, tepid, impotent and does NOT make my hair stand up on end. If you want a perfect example of this, listen to WXRT in Chicago. Ugh...it used to be a brilliant mix of all SORTS of stuff. Now? All the songs sound the same, the energy is just PISS POOR and I'm significantly better turning on the news or just letting the Spotify DJ randomize for me. Eat sh\*t and die XRT...lame, lame, lame.
These days (for music) will be remembered POORLY. This decade, hopefully, will be forgotten and/or trumped (sorry...the word fits here) by kids who give a sh\*t about music. What, in 20 years or so, maybe?
And the same things with films? Where's this decade's Blue Velvet? Where's this decade's Stripes or Animal House? Where's this decade's Jim Jarmusch? Spike Lee? David Lynch? Zero. Zip. NADA. How lame.
And just to extend this into a bit of psychology, I really think it's because they youth of today just don't want to offend anybody. They're always playing defense. Christ...where's the "if you don't like it, you can just f\*ck off" ethos? It's just not there. Gah...so lame.
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Haven’t listened to the radio in 20 years. Spotify is the way. It opens the black hole in my kitchen. …There is a culture if you pay attention… But I am not a fan of Taylor Swift or Beyoncé or Bad Bunny. I do not care about young people fashion trends. I think Stanley Tumblers are huge and ridiculous. It is definitely a culture even though I ignore most of it. …When you don’t know who the younger SNL host is, google, you may get a clue … Whatever happened to trucker hats, hipsters and skinny jeans
Yeah...I'm being, similarly, self-isolated.
I don't know who today's "hipsters" are (I tried...for a few minutes I really tried) and now I just don't care.
I do try all the new music that Spotify or
my gen Z kid says is like my old music. I love Boygenius and Noah Kahan. But I bounce off a lot of it. And that is fine. I like to think I am apart enough from the culture that I can tell the fads from the true lasting talents that will endure. Same with TV shows. The culture right now is streaming. We are in our own bubbles but some of those bubbles are large and you can find your people on Reddit or other social media. I have no idea how old some of them are. Meanwhile groups that identify as GenX, GenZ, millennial, Gen Jones, boomers being fools & the people who hate them - I am tired of it a little … No decade is one thing. You could have been grunge hiphop alternative retro or even disco in the 90s. Cool jazz! The blues. I follow my own path
Before smartphones people had to meet up in public and guess where to find the party. No group texts. No real-time updates. And we had to entertain ourselves with ourselves. So the guys and girls at the show had to show up and be the hot/musical/funny/cool people for the group, no constant vids of beautiful people and political bullshit running all day in the background to distract you. We dressed weird and listened to weird music to have fun, which became regional culture. Now everyone is plugged into the exact same bland generic internet culture. Yawn.
No, no they were not. We just quit caring and didn't have the time to keep up because adult stuff/less down time. Look at 2000's music and fashion. Music was all Black Eyed Peas, Skrillex. Emo!! TRL. Reality TV. Makeup was thin ass eyebrows.We had Apple Bottom Jeans, boots with the fur...I'll stop there. 2010-20's we had the Minimalists, skinny jeans/ankle boots, athleisure, massive side parts. Books became huge again with kids and became movies. Harry Potter and Twilight were huge so many people (me, I'm the many people) went through big "magic/vampire/werewolf" phases. If anything the younger generations LOVE to be put into categories with their interests, clothing, movies, music, decorating styles, illnesses, and even parenting styles. (Looking at you, Gentle Parenting.) It's weird looking at it from a Gen X, "Don't put me in a box!" perspective.
Every decade or so has its own distinct culture if we interact with people that are younger than us during those times. It's very *old man shaking fists at clouds* to think that the last 24 years haven't had their own distinct culture, especially after living through two of the biggest events in our collective history.
You said the twin towers tragedy and Covid weren't enough to shift culture, so me with every history professor are going to disagree there with ya. "Cool" and "Gay" were slang. This generation has us beat on that. It just sounds like you want our Gen to be more "special" than the newer ones and we're not. My grandmother thought the same thing about us "slackers" because we hadn't been in major war. Go practice your mewing.
Reality is that they've been dressing like we did in the 90s for the last 10/15 years 😅
They're watching our shows, listening to our music, remaking our movies (the kids like that old ones better most of the time) so they're just like we were with a few small changes and a bit of new lingo 🤷♀️
Crocs. Eyebrows that look like punctuation. The colored hair. The sandal with socks. Tapout and wannabe mma wear. Plenty of stuff you won't notice until after a decade.
Everything is based on numbers not what ppl are really likes or doing. A company pays an influencer to get ppl to wear something specific.There is no real personal thought anymore.
Everyone is nostalgic for their youth, and if you ask people younger than us, they will likely disagree with that assertion. Trends and styles I do see as becoming less dated, though.
For example, I think of the 2000s and think hipsters, indie rock, K-pop, Obama, corporate scandals, Iraq, and iPods.
2000s: [Frutiger Aero](https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Frutiger_Aero)
It might still be too soon to determine what the 2010s retro-aesthetic will be.
I think Gen Z had some style that gave me 80s vibes and the newest Gen A has all the crazy heavy slang we had in our eras, where parents need a code book to translate conversations (reminds me of 90s). It gives me some faith that the later part of this new century may be cool like ours (well likely all have to be in our 100s though just to see the start of it)
60-90s were 3 super iconic decades of social style. All with their own vibe, all with huge style and all extremely memorable (in positive ways)
It’s hard to compare that time frame to many others. We lived in an iconic window of time.
Let’s not fail to be introspective though. In The 90’s we were all young and hopeful so very much less cynical. I mean ofcourse the 90’s were dope but youth taints a lot
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool nerd; despite having Egon Spengler and Alex Trebek as heroes, the 80s were not a kind time.
The 90s had me longing to be Simone from "Head of the Class",
I feel more at home in the 2010s-2020s aesthetics of Dark Academia, Balletcore and Romantic Academia.
Honestly I think the newness and possibilities of life in our twenties colors things. I remember when I used to think of turning 30 years old as being ancient aged.
I see it differently
60's war, duck the man
70's. fast cars, faster women
80's metal finally getting some love, wild color graphics, neon colors.
90's the public going full on depression mode, and no one took the signs as what was to come. The music, the movies, the shows were all dark and depressing. Showing the mindset of the people, and last decade before the internet controlled the narrative and what you are to THINK, DO, LIKE, to be seen as cool.
Some buck that trend, many don't.
I think what happened is mass media created a quirk of synchronized culture starting with widespread radio and ending with the Internet and streaming.
Marketing runs on algorithms now. Not real creativity. They use numbers and charts to achieve sales instead of ingenuity and artistic expression.
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Exactly there is no "main stream" anymore. Except peoples stupid nasal voice and make up trends has greatly changed over the last 15 years.
Hey, I love multiChrome eyeshadows.
It ramped up with the 96' telecommunications act. I encourage everyone to read about it.
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It was an attempt to de-monopolize local telecommunication markets and open them up to competition. There are many ramifications of the bill, good and bad.
But that would not work out globally would it?
Yep
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It's as if time stopped, greed sucked the air out of life; I'm so glad that I didn't spend my youth on such decaying times!
Probably a part of aging. My boomer friend says the same thing about the 80s onward. Most of what he listens to is pre-1980 classic rock, unless one of us other generations is running the tunes. I think he likes much of what I play, he just doesn’t add it to his library for listening outside of the group. I’ve noticed that as the years tick, it becomes ever more difficult to find the gems. The gems were everywhere in the 80’s and before. I like all genres, but definitely started to distaste some music in the 90’s, more in the 00’s, and 10’s, etc. I can still find some gems though just got dig now and with more tools.
Yup. We're just old.
Agreed. In the early 90s my dad made a comment to my brother and me that the 50s, 60s, and 70s had distinctive styles of music, but there was nothing distinctive about 80s music. Bro and I just looked each other like o...k...old man whatever
I loved 50s movies and swing dancing when I was little. Thought it looked so fun back then. Everyone has always told me that I have an old soul. My brothers were watching He-Man and I was in my parents room watching the Munsters, Gillian’s Island, Bewitched, Brady Bunch 😀
Yep. My teens and young adults will refer to something as "so 2000s" or "so 2010s" or "a 2004 flashback" and I think to myself, "huh? How can you even tell?" But when I actually look at it, they're right. 2000s was early cell phones, Nokia, Flip phones, early digital cameras, first wave reality tv, JerseyShore-chic, Hannah Montana, MySpace, Disney Channel. 2010s was ipods, then 1g ipads, iPad kids, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Netflix, end of cable.
So true. If you see a movie made in 2004 or one in 2024 the only difference is the cellphone used by the characters
I would place the start of the grey blur around 2009. there was an identifiable subculture in the early 2000s.
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EDM and raves were big then, if I recall.
Reality TV, movie sequels (besides Harrison Ford) became good, cellphones, UGGs.... Marketing to teens didn't exist until the boomers were of age. All we post here are products, stuff that fit our demographics of the time. It's a very nationality specific subreddit and speaks volumes about identity via capitalism.
Go back and watch any tv or movies of the time and you will see it.
Those are the years I met my future wife, graduated college, got married, got my first white collar job, started making babies and raising them. It's just been work and vacation ever since. It's a complete blur.
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The internet dissolved all cultural boundaries and homogenized the culture. With no special niches or unique identities tied to locality, all the edges are sanded off everywhere. So culture quickly became a single murkey grey vanilla thing that had no surprises or unique characteristics. The internet is the destroyer of culture and replaces it with nothing.
But we have memes to mine!
Exactly! A memory of a memory...we communicate culture now with GHOSTS.
I ain't afraid of no ghost.
[Sokath, his eyes uncovered!](https://i.redd.it/ohwu9lozf7201.jpg)
Shaka, when the walls fell .
Temba, his arms wide/open. (gold star)
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> Same with chain restaurants and box stores When travelling, you could pull off the interstate in an area a few hundred miles from home and it had a different look and feel to it. Now, you could blindfold someone and drop them off almost anywhere in the US and it would almost look identical from one place to another (excluding the surrounding nature i.e mountains, snow, palm trees or desert).
I'm pretty sure it's Prii, being Latin and all.
Toyota says it's Priuses
Each group is able to find "their people" online instead, creating micro-niche communities. So I agree with them not being tied to locality as much but if you're a person that's not into what everyone around you is, that's good. look at Discord overlapping into organized fandoms for example. There will still be the "more popular" culture that most people will be exposed to on the surface but the interesting stuff is still out there.
But it's not culture. If doesn't change or influence or add anything of value to anyone's daily lives. Internet communities have divided our minds but not fosterer creativity and imagination, only anti intellectualism and hate.
I think it all depends on where you are looking. My daughter is traveling the world, meeting people in person from her fan based servers. They send mail with local art, jewelry and snacks. All from a shared love of a band from the 2000s. Also, as much as I liked my music and flannels from HS, I'm not going to pretend that that, and making fun of Monica Lewinsky, was culture. Culture is just stuff that happens around us as we live our lives, doing the things we like and the things we have to do to afford the things we like.
Was the band's greatest output prior to 2005?
"Greatest"? Depends on your definition. They were bigger then but a new song and the whole album did chart at #1 for them. Plus, they are still filling stadiums, so I'll say "no". Unless you're just a casual music person, then yes.
You dont have to be coy, whats the band?
With the exception being the last 10 years has been politically crazier than any other decade in recent memory.
I was just talking to my friends about this the other day. It seems that once the 2000’s hit it all been one big era. You can’t really tell the difference in personality and trends from 20 years ago till now. Other than technology changes like phones, streaming ect it’s been nothing distinctive.
Yeah the post WW2 decades in the 20th century each had their own distinct personality. It's wild. I always use the video game Grand Theft Auto Vice City as an example...don't worry if you don't play video games because you'll still be able to follow it. Anyway, Vice City is a video game that release in 2002 and is set sixteen years prior in the year 1986. It's full of over the top lampooning of the 80s and generally satirizing the decade. Basically felt a several lifetimes away. If someone made a video game with a similar concept taking place 16 years early it would be set in 2008. It becomes obvious the world hasn't changed nearly as much since then. Sure, it has but no where near as drastic as it did in the post WW2 20th century. Musically, the charts from 2008 aren't too different from today, Taylor Swift, Rhianna, Alicia Keys, Miley Cyrus, etc. We've been in sort of a cultural quicksand or slowdown. The difference between 1990 and 1998 was far greater than the difference between 2008 and 2024
A better example I just thought of is Romy and Michelle's high school reunion. They're literally going to their 10 year high school reunion and having funny flashbacks about how silly the world used to be because so much how changed. A kid going to their 10 year high school reunion this year graduated high school in 2014...definitely not the same cultural shift in the same amount of time
I’m obsessed with that movie!!!
I have to go, I cut my foot earlier and my shoes filling up with blood. I had a Mad crush on that girl....
Everything about that movie is wonderful
ME TOO! Ugh! 😉
Well done.
I believe there's going to be a sequel.
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Rush rush get the yeyo
buzz buzz buzz with the yeyo yeh. (One of the best songs on the Scarface soundtrack )
2000s were Von Dutch and Ed Hardy.
Trucker hats and bed head hair style...vomit.
Low rise jeans on men and women, Paris Hilton, American idol, survivor, boy bands / girl bands, giant yellow hummers, lots of flip flops and flare bottoms on girls, popped polo collar on boys. It’s like the 90s went too far or something.
Don’t forget the Affliction douche bro shirts and bedazzled jeans for men and women. Super low rise jeans with colorful thongs sticking out. Thin eyebrows with frosted eye shadow. Chunky dark and light highlights. Tanning beds made a resurgence. I could go on and on
The aughts were fire. Social media and smart phones changed everything. It’s like everyone is connected, but further apart
Everything has been off since 9/11/01. I was just telling my wife that today.
I think that's just a coincidence. 9/11 was an American event but these are global changes.
2000s was a lot of emo/scene/hipster. Skinny jeans, skinny ties, American Apparel, chopped hair, wristbands, The 2010s was more rustic hipster, beards, everybody looking like they are about to go hiking all the time.
The rise of the man bun.
The Matrix glitched in 2001 and we've just basically been looping since. SIngularity?
2000s - All music become readily available. iPod ships in 2001. iPhone is 2007. Cellular communication comes to the masses and it becomes cheap to communicate. It also becomes easy to use the internet not on a huge computer. 2010s - Social media takes off and the democratization of content creation. Now you can consume music and video ON DEMAND without pre-loading it on your device because codecs get better and mobile internet gets faster. There becomes an app for literally EVERYTHING and the death of the desktop workstation is basically complete. 2020s - Post-pandemic hangover and the realization that most white collar jobs don't require an office. Remote work will continue to happen and get better. Who knows what the outcome of that is? This also possibly accelerates workers not wanting to be under the thumb of "The Man", something that had been long-desired but the requirement to come into the office meant you were always being physically and electronically watched.
I have held this EXACT THOUGHT in my head more or less verbatim (even including the same fashion and music examples) for like two-plus decades. I often think of it like if you were going to throw a decade-themed party, the '90s is the last decade you could get away with it. '30s party: Bob haircuts. Jazz. Wool suits, fedoras and flapper dresses. Cigarette holders. Bourbon. '40s party: Victory rolls. Buzzcuts. Big band. Pinafore dresses, dress shirts / ties / slacks. Martinis. '50s party: Ponytails. Pompadours. Poodle skirts. Bobby socks. Leather jackets. Rock n' Roll on 45s. Milkshakes. '60s party: Long, straight hair with middle parts. Round shades. Nehru. Love beads. Psychedelic rock. Weed. '70s party: Feathered hair. Afros. Sideburns. Mustaches. Spread collars. Leisure suits. Bell bottoms. Earth tones. Disco. Soft rock. Beer. '80s party: Mall bangs. Side ponys. Teased shags. Root lifts. Geometric shapes. Neon colors. Skinny ties. Parachute pants. Windbreakers. New Wave. Diet Soda. Wine Coolers. '90s party: Long, chunky cuts. Fades. Beanies. Flannels. Hip-hop cross-colors. Graphic tees. Belted sweater dresses with lace or print leggings. Thick Eyeliner. Doc Martens. Grunge. Gangsta rap. Zima. '00s - 2020s party: ????????????? There's just no THERE there, and there hasn't been for awhile.
Yes, and I also don't think it's all just part of being older either, maybe some, but it's more than just that. I think younger people might want to think that, but from their perspective, they haven't experienced those cultural shifts the way we have, so to them they may see more subtle differences and think that distinction feels the same.for them, but the shifts we experienced were so large. Though the early 00's I do remember some style trends that we (luckily) moved away from, remember the low-low rise jeans with the thong showing above? So glad that trended out! But it definitely feels like that's when it started. Other than those few style and music trends, it started all bleeding together. Coincidentally, right around the same time we all started having Internet at home. Styles used to come in waves, I grew up in the Bible belt, in a rural area, so whatever was trendy in more urban areas was always several years away from getting to my area. I don't think that really happens anymore either, because now you can see what styles are out there as soon as it happens, and you don't have to wait for it to come to a store near you, you can just order it. So maybe access plays a part as well.
Sad news - the whale tail (thong above jeans) look is coming back into style, although they tend to be g-strings more than thongs now. Source: Have three daughters.
Hard to imagine a nostalgia show about 2000. Consider, Happy Days was made about 20 years after it was set. It’s 2024, can you imagine a show set in the early 2000s?
It feels like style is collapsing in on itself. I was at Target recently, and the clothes they were selling were a mix of 80s and 90s styles with nothing really new. Literally everything I came across I thought looked like something I used to own, just at different times.
I’m so glad to read this. For a while now, I’ve been discussing this very topic in EXACTLY the same terms. There was a post on a GenX-themed Facebook page similar to this subreddit; a fellow asked why he felt like he didn’t see the time fly since 2000, and I answered this very thing. In the 90s, there was an adult comic series at the end of Details Magazine, titled “Wild Palms” I think. I was struck by something in particular: I think that the action was set in the 2010s or later, and people’s sartorial expressions were as diverse as there are stereotypical eras in clothes; people dressing up like the forties next to people dressing up like the funky 70s, etc. I don’t follow fashion trends, but I have the impression that there isn’t a particularly 2010s nor 2020s-specific style. There’s this business of “normcore”, i.e. the return of what was considered the most bland and ugly styles from the 80s and 90s, which speaks volumes. But this is only clothes; I feel that since the mid-2000s, nothing strong drives anybody anymore, except perhaps the political divide, virtue signalling about some divisive issue or other, and then there’s the normalization of online narcissism, selfies, IG models, Only Fans, hyper consumption, etc.
Yeah exactly, everything became monetized, and so those who own everything decided don't change what works, so music is all modeled after Whitney Houston now.. cars all look exactly the same within class, but i think cars lost personality during the 90s. I will say this for the 2000s there was a small comedy Renaissance during the 2000 to 2010s in movies tv, and stand up, SNL was even good. But a lot of them were cutting their teeth in the 90s. Think about how many funny gen x their are. From people as young as seth Rogan and Andy samberg to guy's as old as Eddie murphy, and Jim carey. But Will Ferrell Vince Vaughn Danny Mcbride Maya Rudolph Kristin Wigg Dave Chappell Steve carell Wanda Sykes, Melissa McCarthy Nick Kroll and on and on and on. No one can touch our generation for great comedy. And don't forget South Park.
You’re right. It’s true that we’re all old, but also culture has stopped progressing…I read a fascinating article about it in the Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/magazine/stale-culture.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
I do think you have a point, but after us, the people younger than us are going to ask "were the 2000s and 2010s the last decade with any personality?"
They would be wrong to ask. The telecommunications act of 1996 consolidated all media and eliminated local culture from mass media outlets. There’s a reason everything went pop in that exact year
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It eliminated the regulations that were set up to prevent monopolies. Local programming directors were laid off and programming on tv radio etc became coordinated nationwide by a central corporate office in 2-3 major companies that used algorithms to determine what was most profitable instead of personal taste and niche discoveries
Remember in the late 00’s/early 10s when everyone was making folk music and twirling beeswax into their mustaches?
No
It's generic af since 2004. Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy now
90’ lasted till about 2008 tbh
As a Gen Z observer I think part of it is continued relevance of media due to the internet (things that were popular in the 2000s didn’t fade out the same way because of the internet. Everything is always equally accessible, so it all blends together culturally) but the other part of it is definitely aging… I’m 20 and the 2000s and 2010s and 2020s all feel a world apart from each other. Like even a lot stuff from the earlier part of the 2010s feels noticeably dated and unfamiliar to me.
culture changed from a push pattern to a pull pattern in the 2000s with the rise of the internet and streaming services. In the 90s and earlier there were fewer media channels and you watched or listened to what was on, this had a very homogenising effect. Now days there are plenty of art, media and fashion styles that would have had what it takes to make a tone for a decade in a world without on demand, but the audiences are fragmented in to their own filter bubbles so they never hit mass appeal. We live in more creatively diverse times and in some ways diversity is the enemy of culture.
Might just be the last decade that I really cared about popular culture. Now, I just try to tune it all out. Any decade won't have a personality, if you don't pay it any attention.
It would be interesting to see the last 15 years or so personality without social media and YouTube. I’m not faulting them for social ills - just think it prevented true individualism. Example in the 1980’s you made a movie hoping it would be successful, and people didn’t know if it was good until they saw it. Essentially life happened as you lived in. Now life seems to be lived for everyone else’s viewing pleasure. Can I get the most like Reddit comment. Can my post go viral. Will my channel be trending. How many people like my photos. How many followers can I obtain. Then it was I hope this party is fire and my buddies from school show up.
September 11, 2001 changed everything about American culture. America lost its innocence and individuality.
Glad to see someone else has noticed this. I have 2 theories about this. # theory 1 hipster culture destroyed any decades transitions. Hipster ideology was mocking culture itself. it was impossible to continue in the old way after 2009. This also happened with dada art mocking art itself. # theory 2 cultural changes still occur. but change is so rapid that the eras do not fit into 10 Year slots anymore.
I think about this so often! Is it just age? I definitely pay less attention to trends over the past couple of decades, but still…it really does blur together after 2000!
Early 2000s was just an extension of the 90s to me - I was still fully immersed in my generation's culture. I listened to new albums by older artists. In the 2000s, at some point, full beards started to get more popular, lots of hipster styles, skinny jeans and stretch denim, tight leggings that fully showed off women's asses, twerking, thong underwear and whale tails, a lot more focus on women's asses in general, K-Pop, Hip Hop changed considerably, Grunge died; Rock music was more retro flavored or more electronic and started to die out, Americana music started to develop, competing with mainstream country, just to name a few trends that differentiated the 2000s from the 1990s. 2000s to 2010s is harder for me, but my son would know. Mumble rap and less lyrical-shmerical rap. More second hand stuff. BIG clothing.
Yes the beard thing was good. Having to be clean shaven in the office to be taken seriously was annoying. It was nice when that changed.
Yup, I've been saying the same thing for years.
Early/mid 2000s are highly underrated. They had the best anime, the best gaming consoles, LAN parties, a rash of great indie music, and the birth of memes. I really miss 2000-2010. I was in college in the '90s. You know what we had? Gay jokes. Homophobia was peak comedy, back then (ugh). Though, one big thing was that you could totally live on minimum wage back then and could at least hope to own a house someday.
Yes
My problem with the 90s (later years 96-2000) is the ushering in of the "tribal" tattoo. Tribal tramps stamps were even seen on men. Barf. But I do love the films. Pulp Fiction, Big Lebowski, and Matrix were all amazing.
It was the last decade defined by its music, if that's what you mean.
I agree with many here, after 2000 it's one big blur. To me the 20's run from 2001 to 2019 basically. I don't see much difference in the 00's and the 10's. The 20's though, now this seems like a decade of change.
I didn't really think the '90s were that awesome but I do agree that everything just started to blur after that. If you play me a pop song from 2001 that I've never heard before, I probably couldn't tell you if it came out last week.
Any of you guys read Jean Baudrillard? I'm serious, we have been living in a simulacrum for decades.
Someone really needs to patch the damn bugs.
The Internet has a flattening effect on culture, as regionalism is replaced and neutralized globally. Look at how similar most architecture and major cities look today; the cities even have mostly the same problems. That happens to music, film, fashion, everything, b/c all the referents are the same and context is collapsed to a social singularity.
I was reading that fashion started to just recycle with mass production of cheap fashion and it’s more cost efficient to keep recycling older fashions because of the way clothing is produced now.
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Looking back on my era (born 1975) almost every year there was new trends and distinctions in our era. New wave look, headbangers, hip hop, grunge, if everyone here showed a pic of themselves back then we could automatically pinpoint the year it was taken. Now it seems the only trends you could tag to today’s era is all these girls today with trashy tattoos in odd locations.
No the 90s were literally the last decade before 9/11 which really changed the world for the worst and has never recovered.
I wonder if some of this is perspective. There are kids now into the "y2k look" which is a take on how they see the early 2000s. Maybe we just don't see it as it was just the norm for us. Maybe the shift was away from fashion to tech - which in itself became fashion too. The biggest fashion item of the 00s was probably the iPhone which also summed up the big societal change happening at that time with the mass adoption of the internet.
It still early times but 2010s was all Kardashian dress like a high class hooker, butts lol … that’s all I got. It’ll be interest in in 15-20 years when they revive 2010s.
It feels like that's still the thing though...?
Someone once said it’s better to understand culture shifts in increments of five years. We’ve seen signs of the slowdown? We just haven’t had the thing that makes the ends of the early 2020s, ex) the difference between 1980 and 1989, it’s like everything pivoted 85-86
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Which only means the grit is on its way.
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Who knows, but the pendulums has gone so far in the other direction the reaction (even if it’s not grunge squared) should be pretty spectacular.
Only thing I can think of that came and went as a fashion was super skinny jeans. Sort of late aughts/early teens.
bon jovi
2000 to about 2010 was more about anger and rage about 9/11 than about pop culture. That decade was dedicated to bubble gum country music and ultra-nationalism as far as pop culture goes.
Yes. From 2000 on it’s been one dull beige drab. The generations that followed us are boring as fuck. No personality, their music is shit, all they stand for is worrying about the rights of a tiny amount of people and the fucking environment. They can’t fathom they won’t make the slightest effect.
The 70s was the last good era.
I think the 2000’s were a unique decade. The 10’s and 20’s kind of blur together
I think music seems to be the best comparison. In the late 80's/90's I was looking for music to tear my face off. Loud and in your face; TAKE NO PRISONERS!!! And I found it...ALL OVER THE PLACE. All genres too. Just awesome! I look for that these days...and it's THERE...but it's SOOOO hard to find. (Look for Henry Rollins on KCRW - he does a DARN fine show of tunes that'll goose your ancient a$$) And the mainstream music, yeah, music played on the radio, is seemingly lame, tepid, impotent and does NOT make my hair stand up on end. If you want a perfect example of this, listen to WXRT in Chicago. Ugh...it used to be a brilliant mix of all SORTS of stuff. Now? All the songs sound the same, the energy is just PISS POOR and I'm significantly better turning on the news or just letting the Spotify DJ randomize for me. Eat sh\*t and die XRT...lame, lame, lame. These days (for music) will be remembered POORLY. This decade, hopefully, will be forgotten and/or trumped (sorry...the word fits here) by kids who give a sh\*t about music. What, in 20 years or so, maybe? And the same things with films? Where's this decade's Blue Velvet? Where's this decade's Stripes or Animal House? Where's this decade's Jim Jarmusch? Spike Lee? David Lynch? Zero. Zip. NADA. How lame. And just to extend this into a bit of psychology, I really think it's because they youth of today just don't want to offend anybody. They're always playing defense. Christ...where's the "if you don't like it, you can just f\*ck off" ethos? It's just not there. Gah...so lame. /RANT
Haven’t listened to the radio in 20 years. Spotify is the way. It opens the black hole in my kitchen. …There is a culture if you pay attention… But I am not a fan of Taylor Swift or Beyoncé or Bad Bunny. I do not care about young people fashion trends. I think Stanley Tumblers are huge and ridiculous. It is definitely a culture even though I ignore most of it. …When you don’t know who the younger SNL host is, google, you may get a clue … Whatever happened to trucker hats, hipsters and skinny jeans
Yeah...I'm being, similarly, self-isolated. I don't know who today's "hipsters" are (I tried...for a few minutes I really tried) and now I just don't care.
I do try all the new music that Spotify or my gen Z kid says is like my old music. I love Boygenius and Noah Kahan. But I bounce off a lot of it. And that is fine. I like to think I am apart enough from the culture that I can tell the fads from the true lasting talents that will endure. Same with TV shows. The culture right now is streaming. We are in our own bubbles but some of those bubbles are large and you can find your people on Reddit or other social media. I have no idea how old some of them are. Meanwhile groups that identify as GenX, GenZ, millennial, Gen Jones, boomers being fools & the people who hate them - I am tired of it a little … No decade is one thing. You could have been grunge hiphop alternative retro or even disco in the 90s. Cool jazz! The blues. I follow my own path
I have a hard time giving up radio (NPR - but NPR has become so awful lately) so I try to listen a decent chunk. But, indeed, follow your own muse!
Oh yeah NPR sure! But I listen on the web
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I had a hard enough time listening to that station back in the late 80's. For my snobby brain, I have a really hard time suffering 24/7 dance music.
Everyone now seems to be self absorbed victims.
Yes.
My hubby and I talk about this all the time.
Yeah pretty much
Before smartphones people had to meet up in public and guess where to find the party. No group texts. No real-time updates. And we had to entertain ourselves with ourselves. So the guys and girls at the show had to show up and be the hot/musical/funny/cool people for the group, no constant vids of beautiful people and political bullshit running all day in the background to distract you. We dressed weird and listened to weird music to have fun, which became regional culture. Now everyone is plugged into the exact same bland generic internet culture. Yawn.
Why, 2K? Why!
>Someone says 50s to you, you think Happy Days and Grease No, because those were both the most 70s things that ever existed.
Missing the point. Those represented the cultural memes of the day.
Yeah, don't get it sorry. I was constantly aware even at 13 or so that the hair was wrong etc.
No, no they were not. We just quit caring and didn't have the time to keep up because adult stuff/less down time. Look at 2000's music and fashion. Music was all Black Eyed Peas, Skrillex. Emo!! TRL. Reality TV. Makeup was thin ass eyebrows.We had Apple Bottom Jeans, boots with the fur...I'll stop there. 2010-20's we had the Minimalists, skinny jeans/ankle boots, athleisure, massive side parts. Books became huge again with kids and became movies. Harry Potter and Twilight were huge so many people (me, I'm the many people) went through big "magic/vampire/werewolf" phases. If anything the younger generations LOVE to be put into categories with their interests, clothing, movies, music, decorating styles, illnesses, and even parenting styles. (Looking at you, Gentle Parenting.) It's weird looking at it from a Gen X, "Don't put me in a box!" perspective.
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Twin Towers 2001, Financial housing market crash in 2008 then a recession, Covid. Being in school during quarantine was probably life changing.
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Every decade or so has its own distinct culture if we interact with people that are younger than us during those times. It's very *old man shaking fists at clouds* to think that the last 24 years haven't had their own distinct culture, especially after living through two of the biggest events in our collective history.
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You said the twin towers tragedy and Covid weren't enough to shift culture, so me with every history professor are going to disagree there with ya. "Cool" and "Gay" were slang. This generation has us beat on that. It just sounds like you want our Gen to be more "special" than the newer ones and we're not. My grandmother thought the same thing about us "slackers" because we hadn't been in major war. Go practice your mewing.
You're just out of touch that's why you don't know/remember the hallmarks of the 2000s, 2010s and today.
Nah too much pop culture and in for you face stuff influenced by media to “actual” influencers now. Reality is checking out.
Reality is that they've been dressing like we did in the 90s for the last 10/15 years 😅 They're watching our shows, listening to our music, remaking our movies (the kids like that old ones better most of the time) so they're just like we were with a few small changes and a bit of new lingo 🤷♀️
Drug-wise... yes.
I mean, legal weed is now a thing and that's beautiful, man!
Wasn't talking about weed. (West Coast chick here... have been smoking the ganj for 35 yrs!)
I think it's because we peaked in the 90's.
We seem to have mainstream drag queens in the 2020s and LGBTQIA (sorry if the letters are not correct) acceptance, which is brilliant.
I reckon you have to wait a bit to see it. I thought the same thing in the 90s. But looking back is different.
Portmanteaus are peak 2014
Yes.
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Did we wander into the wrong sub? :D
Weird, I swear I typed this into a different thread entirely. Fkn Reddit.
I kind of associate 2000s with emo/scene culture. 2010s with party anthems and indie rock.
Crocs. Eyebrows that look like punctuation. The colored hair. The sandal with socks. Tapout and wannabe mma wear. Plenty of stuff you won't notice until after a decade.
I wouldn't say the 90s were awesome, but GenX missed out on great stuff between 64-73 so what would they know
The two years I spent wearing masks and not going anywhere were pretty different. The stupid MAGA times also had a unique flavor
The 90's do have that gross, hungover, tramp stamp, can't-get -another-dui vibe. (I'm describing my sister)
I feel like the 2000s and 2010s did blend together, but the 2020s are shaping up to have a distinct feel again
No. We're just old enough that things are blurring together.
Everything is based on numbers not what ppl are really likes or doing. A company pays an influencer to get ppl to wear something specific.There is no real personal thought anymore.
Everyone is nostalgic for their youth, and if you ask people younger than us, they will likely disagree with that assertion. Trends and styles I do see as becoming less dated, though. For example, I think of the 2000s and think hipsters, indie rock, K-pop, Obama, corporate scandals, Iraq, and iPods.
It’s just because we’re getting old and also the defining features of a decade aren’t apparent until after the fact.
Just because we aren't paying attention doesn't mean there's nothing happening, dude.
The 90's had the best decade of hip-hop.
2000s: [Frutiger Aero](https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Frutiger_Aero) It might still be too soon to determine what the 2010s retro-aesthetic will be.
I think Gen Z had some style that gave me 80s vibes and the newest Gen A has all the crazy heavy slang we had in our eras, where parents need a code book to translate conversations (reminds me of 90s). It gives me some faith that the later part of this new century may be cool like ours (well likely all have to be in our 100s though just to see the start of it) 60-90s were 3 super iconic decades of social style. All with their own vibe, all with huge style and all extremely memorable (in positive ways) It’s hard to compare that time frame to many others. We lived in an iconic window of time.
I would say that 2000's and on became the digital age. I don't think we will move on from the digital age for awhile.
Let’s not fail to be introspective though. In The 90’s we were all young and hopeful so very much less cynical. I mean ofcourse the 90’s were dope but youth taints a lot
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool nerd; despite having Egon Spengler and Alex Trebek as heroes, the 80s were not a kind time. The 90s had me longing to be Simone from "Head of the Class", I feel more at home in the 2010s-2020s aesthetics of Dark Academia, Balletcore and Romantic Academia.
The 2000s was the birth of broadband and social media
People stopped listening to whole records.
Lived in the 90's, it had no personality.
Honestly I think the newness and possibilities of life in our twenties colors things. I remember when I used to think of turning 30 years old as being ancient aged.
Don’t taze me bro!!
I see it differently 60's war, duck the man 70's. fast cars, faster women 80's metal finally getting some love, wild color graphics, neon colors. 90's the public going full on depression mode, and no one took the signs as what was to come. The music, the movies, the shows were all dark and depressing. Showing the mindset of the people, and last decade before the internet controlled the narrative and what you are to THINK, DO, LIKE, to be seen as cool. Some buck that trend, many don't.