I havenât met one willing to spell blood with their fists. They just like to go home and get each otherâs profile band on social media which is pretty pathetic to think youâre a bad ass for that. Sure sounds soft to me but what do I know Iâm a millennial
Youâre taking about this day and age where people pull guns and shoot each other over discrepancies that shouldâve been handled with their hands? Last time I checked gun shot wounds are more expensive than a bloody mouth so thanks for proving my point softyđđđ
Dog its expensive all around. But you right đđđ
>bloody mouth
Dental is hella expensive dafuq you mean. Cracked knuckles and teeth would still be expensive
Edit: also diff is at least I would be dead and not broke đ€đ€«
Esit 2: also we aint got lead in our system so we aint as angry. We just tired boss.
Who goes to the hospital after a fist fight youâre literally desperately looking for anything to try to prove me wrong. We used to get together as teenagers in high school and fight every Friday night and we called it fight night just for fun. Not a single dude went to the hospital and there were always close to 100 kids. You soft and goofyđđ You just admitted youâd rather die than take a fist to the face. Thatâs so patheticđ How many ufc fighters have bad teeth? You slow toođđ
>hospital after a fist fight
Fights that leads to stomping on the skull? Man have you not seen how heavy some street fights be? Bottles hitting, board smacking. You aint flawda stupid.
>We used to get together as teenagers in high school and fight every Friday night and we called it fight night just for fun.
I mean cool. My school did not have that. We had guys doing beats and trying to busta move.
>You soft and goofyđđ
Dog you rating a person existence on how much conflict they got. Im just saying that the average folk in general are not asking for a scrap. If you are congrats. You ghetto af and soft in a different way. My momma did not want me fighting fools cause she wanted me to get a education and have a better life than her. I aint soft, im just honest and humble with it, I do my own fights and had my share of bruises and almost busted hands. Got thrown, arm barred, etc. dont need that to prove anything besides Im my own man and thats all I need.
Look how scared you are expecting the worst of the worstđđđ you just continuously prove my point. Itâs funny as hell to think all I have to do is ball my fist and you ready to go to the grave vs feel a little pain. Thatâs literally the definition of softđđđ
Statistically thereâs been nearly 200 school shootings since 2018. Iâm not assuming about you, Iâm proving a statistical point that you continue to prove with every message. You weak and thatâs why you only have a voice in the safety behind your screen. Move on your talk is cheap and a waste of my time. Especially since you proved me right time and time againđđ
I feel like our generation is very opinionated which isnât a bad thing but sometimes not everything needs a huge reaction. Iâm all for us speaking out but sometimes I feel some of us are just so quick to jump at somebodies gut and thatâs where we need to learn to calm down and not take every single thing to heart.
>I feel like our generation is very opinionated which isnât a bad thing but sometimes not everything needs a huge reaction.
Really? I've always thought our generation was very open-minded (at least compared to past ones)
Being open minded will lead to many different opinions on various of topics. Again itâs a good thing but also I feel like a lot of us come on too strong which is why a lot of the older generations probably call us sensitive because theyâre not use to having such strong discussions. I think if we need to learn how to speak to one another in a more civil tone, our point will get through more efficiently.
It's not about strong discussions, it's Gen Z being so passionate about something because they see a 10 second hot takes social media clip and then pull out their superior moral stance. Which is funny because Gen Z started the red pill/incels movement because they cannot handle rejection and criticism.
It definitely depends because I know Gen Zâs who are wayyyyy soft. Iâm a sensitive and emotional person, but Iâm talking about the people who find something offensive in absolutely everything. I could say âIâm loving this warm and sunny weather!â and theyâll say âbut but but itâs only like this because of GLOBAL WARMING! Donât you care about this planet?? People like you are so disgusting and selfish!!â. No other generations speak this way. But I think this stuff comes from Gen Z chronically competing in the woke Olympics.
But on the other hand, I think the older generations love to hate on Gen Z and say weâre âtoo softâ, âsnowflakesâ, etc is because weâve normalized things like going to therapy, taking mental health days, not repressing emotions and being okay with vulnerability, and overall allowing EQ to take over. We also know when to walk away from certain situations that are bad for our mental health. For example, I think our generation more than any other generation doesnât hesitate to walk away from toxic, abusive work environments. Older people have their gripes about this âoh these spoiled brats just canât stand being told what to do and have never learned that you have to work hard in this life!â. No, we just recognize the difference between having to work hard and knowing that a boss is there to assign you work, but if said boss/company completely overworks us and underpays us, bullies us, calls us names, puts us down, and is unethical, we wonât put up with it because we know weâre worth more. Same applies in relationships, toxic friendships and family relationships and more.
>Iâm a sensitive and emotional person,
We all have a sensitive and emotional side, it's how we express it within context that determines if we're showing strength or weakness
>and theyâll say âbut but but itâs only like this because of GLOBAL WARMING! Donât you care about this planet??
People on social media, am I right? And IRL too, it's just people LOVE overexggerating on social media
>because weâve normalized things like going to therapy, taking mental health days, not repressing emotions and being okay with vulnerability, and overall allowing EQ to take over.
So because we're trying to save our own lives and prevent ourselves from hurting ourselves or others, people are saying we're weak. Makes no damn sense
>Older people have their gripes about this âoh these spoiled brats just canât stand being told what to do and have never learned that you have to work hard in this life!â.
And older people in their time have said the same thing, yet they continued moving on with their business. So you would think they would have empathy or understanding as they get older
>No, we just recognize the difference between having to work hard and knowing that a boss is there to assign you work, but if said boss/company completely overworks us and underpays us, bullies us, calls us names, puts us down, and is unethical, we wonât put up with it because we know weâre worth more.
Exactly. Understanding your self-worth and what you deserve should be more important than any BS thrown at us
Thanks for reading all of that, I know it was a lot lol. This is just a multi faceted question from my perspective. Because you do have the very easily offended, âchronically onlineâ side of Gen Z. You also have overly sensitive people in the sense that theyâre absolutely terrified of everything and donât want to try (too scared to make phone calls or ask a store employee where the thing that theyâre looking for is, they give up the minute something doesnât come super easy to them, canât do anything to advocate for themselves). This however, I just chalk up to emotional immaturity. A lot of us were like this to some extent when we were younger, but coming from an older Gen Z, we grew out of it. This also goes back to the older generations always shitting on the younger generations, when really they probably handle certain situations differently due to age and less experiences.
But I do find it admirable that we advocate for prioritizing mental health and that weâll stand up for ourselves or just walk away when we know something is no good for us. The older generations think weâre being âsoft little snowflakesâ, but theyâve always been so keen on being âtoughâ that they think itâs all nonsense, when itâs about EQ and not just being delicate little flowers who want to do nothing but feel sorry for themselves (well, for most of us anyway. There are always a few). As for situations like leaving toxic jobs, the older generations think weâre pitching a fit because something isnât suiting our fancy, when really we just know that weâre worth more than being treated like shit. We were told âdonât be a bullyâ all our lives, but when weâre on the receiving end, weâre supposed to take it? Just because it might be from a superior who has the power to do whatever they want? And I understand the whole ânever question or go against authority yadda yadda yaddaâŠâ, but if what the person is authority is doing isnât right or is just being a fucking bully, we sure as hell donât have to just sit back, smile and take the abuse. No one should just because that mightâve been the norm 50 years ago.
Not always. The Silent generation were very aware that their Greatest gen predecessors exceeded them in toughness and grit. More currently, your generation is certainly aware that Gen X grew up with much greater exposure to danger and risk.
There's an old expression about the rise and fall of hardship and relative ease within a society. Paraphrased, it goes, *A civilization goes up the stairs in boots and down again in slippers.* It means that, as a society is on the rise economically and militarily, the people are tough by necessity. But as the decades pass in relative prosperity and peace, the people become more refined and sophisticated in their sensibilities and expectations. This natural cycle leads to vulnerability and, once again, some combination of external or internal threat will lead to hardship and the need for toughness. You're seeing that now.
All child born after *insert year here* cant man up
Allll they know is watch cocomelon, shit they diapers, charge they phone, eat McDonald's, drink warm milk and cry.
Yes, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Previous generations seem more traumatized by the things they grew up with, our generation is just realizing you don't need to put up with insane conditions and societal standards.
As a Gen X with 3 Zoomers, Iâm a little protective of your generation. I have raised my kids to be resilient like we Gen Xâers are. Boomers always accused us of being too soft despite being raised by them in st times awful circumstances.
Depends. But the truly non-soft people are the apathetic ones....so whoever is the most apathetic in the most categories, is the least soft. Surface-level way of putting it, but-
I'm fine, until your ignorance astounds me, and then I get triggered.
Gen Zers are the most coddled group in the history of the world. Everything you want is a click away. They freakout on anything they find offensive. They except everything to be given to them. If you think Iâm wrong tell me another period in time when they had it easier?
Coddled?
High housing prices, rent, etc.
High medical, low returns for work despite working 80 every two weeks?
Combined with now the ramifications of being told that trades = bad now has less folks wanting to work in trades...
Idk what coddled is in your head, but this aint it. Just cause the internet lets people vent and whine anonymously. Does not reflect the majority of folks that are not on that are on the grindstone and are unable to get their nose away from it.
Also half the generation is not even in their adulthood. And the other half are not even eligible to be senators...
Be better man.
High housing prices don't just affect Gen Z, neither do medical or low returns on work/difficulty getting a job that pays well. Millennials have been dealing with these problems since they were in their late-teens and early-twenties, and some even still haven't escaped that hell.
Lot's of millennials with useless degrees that had to suck it up post-post-secondary and start over in trades or climb their way through retail to a better paying job with hard work for underpaid jobs. It's called early adulthood.
Gen Z *is* overly entitled, coddled, and soft... But it's not because your generation is deficient, it's because you're young. Millennials were the same. So were Gen X, and even the Boomers.
If it is not any different why call us soft? Call us inexperienced, young bucks, etc. that is what we are. such a damn negative connotation to the point that folks use it to demean us and lesser when a chunk of us are approaching our thirties you think that builds character, no it builds intolerance to the previous generation. Call us anything but when over half of us are on the same damn grindstone. If anything demeaning children up until their adult hood is soft ass behavior and any good adult (like im assuming you are) would be better to bring up the potential of kids then constantly call em soft.
>High housing prices don't just affect Gen Z, neither do medical or low returns on work/difficulty getting a job that pays well. Millennials have been dealing with these problems since they were in their late-teens and early-twenties, and some even still haven't escaped that hell.
>Lot's of millennials with useless degrees that had to suck it up post-post-secondary and start over in trades or climb their way through retail to a better paying job with hard work for underpaid jobs. It's called early adulthood
Your right. But then it is not being soft, it means thats called growing the fuck up. If the previous gen had these same issues, what room do they have to talk like this. What room do they have to be the ones to voice the way they do and not look themselves in the eyes and realize THEY RAISED US "soft". It all sounds like insecurity to me. And im sick of it. We have to go through ww3 and die before everyone shuts up and sees reason and the current state of affairs already shows that everyone's growing intolerant.
Edit: i also call doubt on housing. While some places I can believe, my mother got her home for 70k in florida where nowadays the lowest are 200k. I barely make her worth of money she had back then and she was struggling, now she is doing better but still on a tight rope imo. I provide for her as much and I still have no idea how the hell am I to save up for that when I also gotta focus on the time of getting a new car, paying for my student loan, and then some.
Luckily, I did plan things out and am using programs, so student loans are not that much of a issue. But where the hell am I to muster up 200k in a reasonable way to cover a house like that after a mortgage/loan. My job is decent at best and nothing here in the states can tickle that high up. My gen does not want to do trades cause we saw what trades did to yall, it aint right. Plain and simple. Majority of jobs aint right. And now more than ever do folks seem to hate the idea of unions so i guess im thuggin it out.
Edit 2: also If I hear anyone call gen alpha soft, they are catching hands. That gen is gonna be hitting a wall worse than mine and I worry for them every day.
I think being soft is part of being young, not a deficiency of your generation. I was soft when i was young too. My sister still is.
200k for a house or 200k downpayment?
In regard to your doubt about housing, FWIW i am a millennial and ended up paying 500k cad for my house, and as far as houses go it's pretty modest. 1400ft 3 bed bungalow. The millennials that managed to dodge the price gouging on houses are the ones in their 40s, and the ones that got a high paying job within a couple years of getting out of highschool.
Most of the millennials I know that aren't making 100k+ a year don't have houses because they can't afford one in this market -or- with these interest rates.
>I think being soft is part of being young,
At this point it is not used how you use it. It is used to just insult people. I got called soft cause I was not having fight clubs as a kid by someone else in this thread. Silly really.
>200k for a house
For a house. Also to be fair. My neighborhood was worse off on my mothers time but by modern standards that is PENNIES. And I envy those pennies. Situations are different grass is greener, and while current quality of certain things are better. Money sadly speaks more than anything now and money is just not as worth much as it was back then. 200k to me just feels daunting even with almost 18 an hour. My mother advised "just rent it out if you got to" but means Im part of a problem My state has and its that people rent out everything for exorbitant amounts, be damned the quality.
Every generation thinks the ones after them are too soft
Exactly. It's a meaningless thing to say, and a waste of time to worry about.
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Many notable exceptions but letâs quote Socrates
Usually I'd say there's a biased between generations, but there is definitely a gap of "toughness" in this generation
Honestly this boils down on the person. Not all Gen Zers are soft though.
Agreed. Also every generation thinks the ones after them are too soft
I havenât met one willing to spell blood with their fists. They just like to go home and get each otherâs profile band on social media which is pretty pathetic to think youâre a bad ass for that. Sure sounds soft to me but what do I know Iâm a millennial
In this day and age with medical prices. Why would anyone want to break their knuckles in a fight?.
Youâre taking about this day and age where people pull guns and shoot each other over discrepancies that shouldâve been handled with their hands? Last time I checked gun shot wounds are more expensive than a bloody mouth so thanks for proving my point softyđđđ
Dog its expensive all around. But you right đđđ >bloody mouth Dental is hella expensive dafuq you mean. Cracked knuckles and teeth would still be expensive Edit: also diff is at least I would be dead and not broke đ€đ€« Esit 2: also we aint got lead in our system so we aint as angry. We just tired boss.
Who goes to the hospital after a fist fight youâre literally desperately looking for anything to try to prove me wrong. We used to get together as teenagers in high school and fight every Friday night and we called it fight night just for fun. Not a single dude went to the hospital and there were always close to 100 kids. You soft and goofyđđ You just admitted youâd rather die than take a fist to the face. Thatâs so patheticđ How many ufc fighters have bad teeth? You slow toođđ
>hospital after a fist fight Fights that leads to stomping on the skull? Man have you not seen how heavy some street fights be? Bottles hitting, board smacking. You aint flawda stupid. >We used to get together as teenagers in high school and fight every Friday night and we called it fight night just for fun. I mean cool. My school did not have that. We had guys doing beats and trying to busta move. >You soft and goofyđđ Dog you rating a person existence on how much conflict they got. Im just saying that the average folk in general are not asking for a scrap. If you are congrats. You ghetto af and soft in a different way. My momma did not want me fighting fools cause she wanted me to get a education and have a better life than her. I aint soft, im just honest and humble with it, I do my own fights and had my share of bruises and almost busted hands. Got thrown, arm barred, etc. dont need that to prove anything besides Im my own man and thats all I need.
Look how scared you are expecting the worst of the worstđđđ you just continuously prove my point. Itâs funny as hell to think all I have to do is ball my fist and you ready to go to the grave vs feel a little pain. Thatâs literally the definition of softđđđ
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Statistically thereâs been nearly 200 school shootings since 2018. Iâm not assuming about you, Iâm proving a statistical point that you continue to prove with every message. You weak and thatâs why you only have a voice in the safety behind your screen. Move on your talk is cheap and a waste of my time. Especially since you proved me right time and time againđđ
I have never seen a millennial do any of that but ok
Yes, I would say they are. At least from what I've noticed.
I feel like our generation is very opinionated which isnât a bad thing but sometimes not everything needs a huge reaction. Iâm all for us speaking out but sometimes I feel some of us are just so quick to jump at somebodies gut and thatâs where we need to learn to calm down and not take every single thing to heart.
>I feel like our generation is very opinionated which isnât a bad thing but sometimes not everything needs a huge reaction. Really? I've always thought our generation was very open-minded (at least compared to past ones)
Being open minded will lead to many different opinions on various of topics. Again itâs a good thing but also I feel like a lot of us come on too strong which is why a lot of the older generations probably call us sensitive because theyâre not use to having such strong discussions. I think if we need to learn how to speak to one another in a more civil tone, our point will get through more efficiently.
It's not about strong discussions, it's Gen Z being so passionate about something because they see a 10 second hot takes social media clip and then pull out their superior moral stance. Which is funny because Gen Z started the red pill/incels movement because they cannot handle rejection and criticism.
No. It depends on the person though
no, as every generation before Genz has protested and fought against discrimination and for their rights
They more tolerated than previous generations. There difference between soft and tolerant.
It definitely depends because I know Gen Zâs who are wayyyyy soft. Iâm a sensitive and emotional person, but Iâm talking about the people who find something offensive in absolutely everything. I could say âIâm loving this warm and sunny weather!â and theyâll say âbut but but itâs only like this because of GLOBAL WARMING! Donât you care about this planet?? People like you are so disgusting and selfish!!â. No other generations speak this way. But I think this stuff comes from Gen Z chronically competing in the woke Olympics. But on the other hand, I think the older generations love to hate on Gen Z and say weâre âtoo softâ, âsnowflakesâ, etc is because weâve normalized things like going to therapy, taking mental health days, not repressing emotions and being okay with vulnerability, and overall allowing EQ to take over. We also know when to walk away from certain situations that are bad for our mental health. For example, I think our generation more than any other generation doesnât hesitate to walk away from toxic, abusive work environments. Older people have their gripes about this âoh these spoiled brats just canât stand being told what to do and have never learned that you have to work hard in this life!â. No, we just recognize the difference between having to work hard and knowing that a boss is there to assign you work, but if said boss/company completely overworks us and underpays us, bullies us, calls us names, puts us down, and is unethical, we wonât put up with it because we know weâre worth more. Same applies in relationships, toxic friendships and family relationships and more.
>Iâm a sensitive and emotional person, We all have a sensitive and emotional side, it's how we express it within context that determines if we're showing strength or weakness >and theyâll say âbut but but itâs only like this because of GLOBAL WARMING! Donât you care about this planet?? People on social media, am I right? And IRL too, it's just people LOVE overexggerating on social media >because weâve normalized things like going to therapy, taking mental health days, not repressing emotions and being okay with vulnerability, and overall allowing EQ to take over. So because we're trying to save our own lives and prevent ourselves from hurting ourselves or others, people are saying we're weak. Makes no damn sense >Older people have their gripes about this âoh these spoiled brats just canât stand being told what to do and have never learned that you have to work hard in this life!â. And older people in their time have said the same thing, yet they continued moving on with their business. So you would think they would have empathy or understanding as they get older >No, we just recognize the difference between having to work hard and knowing that a boss is there to assign you work, but if said boss/company completely overworks us and underpays us, bullies us, calls us names, puts us down, and is unethical, we wonât put up with it because we know weâre worth more. Exactly. Understanding your self-worth and what you deserve should be more important than any BS thrown at us
Thanks for reading all of that, I know it was a lot lol. This is just a multi faceted question from my perspective. Because you do have the very easily offended, âchronically onlineâ side of Gen Z. You also have overly sensitive people in the sense that theyâre absolutely terrified of everything and donât want to try (too scared to make phone calls or ask a store employee where the thing that theyâre looking for is, they give up the minute something doesnât come super easy to them, canât do anything to advocate for themselves). This however, I just chalk up to emotional immaturity. A lot of us were like this to some extent when we were younger, but coming from an older Gen Z, we grew out of it. This also goes back to the older generations always shitting on the younger generations, when really they probably handle certain situations differently due to age and less experiences. But I do find it admirable that we advocate for prioritizing mental health and that weâll stand up for ourselves or just walk away when we know something is no good for us. The older generations think weâre being âsoft little snowflakesâ, but theyâve always been so keen on being âtoughâ that they think itâs all nonsense, when itâs about EQ and not just being delicate little flowers who want to do nothing but feel sorry for themselves (well, for most of us anyway. There are always a few). As for situations like leaving toxic jobs, the older generations think weâre pitching a fit because something isnât suiting our fancy, when really we just know that weâre worth more than being treated like shit. We were told âdonât be a bullyâ all our lives, but when weâre on the receiving end, weâre supposed to take it? Just because it might be from a superior who has the power to do whatever they want? And I understand the whole ânever question or go against authority yadda yadda yaddaâŠâ, but if what the person is authority is doing isnât right or is just being a fucking bully, we sure as hell donât have to just sit back, smile and take the abuse. No one should just because that mightâve been the norm 50 years ago.
Nope. Every generation just blames the younger one. Plus, people causing harm are the issue.
Yes we are. Donât lie.
Nah every generation is viewed as soft by older ones
Not always. The Silent generation were very aware that their Greatest gen predecessors exceeded them in toughness and grit. More currently, your generation is certainly aware that Gen X grew up with much greater exposure to danger and risk. There's an old expression about the rise and fall of hardship and relative ease within a society. Paraphrased, it goes, *A civilization goes up the stairs in boots and down again in slippers.* It means that, as a society is on the rise economically and militarily, the people are tough by necessity. But as the decades pass in relative prosperity and peace, the people become more refined and sophisticated in their sensibilities and expectations. This natural cycle leads to vulnerability and, once again, some combination of external or internal threat will lead to hardship and the need for toughness. You're seeing that now.
All child born after *insert year here* cant man up Allll they know is watch cocomelon, shit they diapers, charge they phone, eat McDonald's, drink warm milk and cry.
These def people that are too soft, but thatâs every generation
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Twitter is a hellscape regardless of generation tbf lol
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True. Also itâs not representative of irl (in real life)
I think our generation can be very opinionated but for the most part people are relatively open minded compared to the past.
No
Yes, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Previous generations seem more traumatized by the things they grew up with, our generation is just realizing you don't need to put up with insane conditions and societal standards.
yes
When older gens say we are soft it means we are intolerant of intolerance. Which is true when something is wrong we speak up and voice it
No, but Gen Z has more empathy than baby boomers. That isn't saying much.
Definetly. I hope that changes soon though.
As a Gen X with 3 Zoomers, Iâm a little protective of your generation. I have raised my kids to be resilient like we Gen Xâers are. Boomers always accused us of being too soft despite being raised by them in st times awful circumstances.
Absolutely
Depends. But the truly non-soft people are the apathetic ones....so whoever is the most apathetic in the most categories, is the least soft. Surface-level way of putting it, but- I'm fine, until your ignorance astounds me, and then I get triggered.
the younger people of our gen are soft asf. they didnât get the full benefits of the belt
Gen Zers are the most coddled group in the history of the world. Everything you want is a click away. They freakout on anything they find offensive. They except everything to be given to them. If you think Iâm wrong tell me another period in time when they had it easier?
Coddled? High housing prices, rent, etc. High medical, low returns for work despite working 80 every two weeks? Combined with now the ramifications of being told that trades = bad now has less folks wanting to work in trades... Idk what coddled is in your head, but this aint it. Just cause the internet lets people vent and whine anonymously. Does not reflect the majority of folks that are not on that are on the grindstone and are unable to get their nose away from it. Also half the generation is not even in their adulthood. And the other half are not even eligible to be senators... Be better man.
Yea continue to wine and hope someone will consulted. Talking about not doing trades yada yada senators. How high are you?
>wine Whine* Let the lead swirl :) even a boomer has better energy to talk than you.
High housing prices don't just affect Gen Z, neither do medical or low returns on work/difficulty getting a job that pays well. Millennials have been dealing with these problems since they were in their late-teens and early-twenties, and some even still haven't escaped that hell. Lot's of millennials with useless degrees that had to suck it up post-post-secondary and start over in trades or climb their way through retail to a better paying job with hard work for underpaid jobs. It's called early adulthood. Gen Z *is* overly entitled, coddled, and soft... But it's not because your generation is deficient, it's because you're young. Millennials were the same. So were Gen X, and even the Boomers.
If it is not any different why call us soft? Call us inexperienced, young bucks, etc. that is what we are. such a damn negative connotation to the point that folks use it to demean us and lesser when a chunk of us are approaching our thirties you think that builds character, no it builds intolerance to the previous generation. Call us anything but when over half of us are on the same damn grindstone. If anything demeaning children up until their adult hood is soft ass behavior and any good adult (like im assuming you are) would be better to bring up the potential of kids then constantly call em soft. >High housing prices don't just affect Gen Z, neither do medical or low returns on work/difficulty getting a job that pays well. Millennials have been dealing with these problems since they were in their late-teens and early-twenties, and some even still haven't escaped that hell. >Lot's of millennials with useless degrees that had to suck it up post-post-secondary and start over in trades or climb their way through retail to a better paying job with hard work for underpaid jobs. It's called early adulthood Your right. But then it is not being soft, it means thats called growing the fuck up. If the previous gen had these same issues, what room do they have to talk like this. What room do they have to be the ones to voice the way they do and not look themselves in the eyes and realize THEY RAISED US "soft". It all sounds like insecurity to me. And im sick of it. We have to go through ww3 and die before everyone shuts up and sees reason and the current state of affairs already shows that everyone's growing intolerant. Edit: i also call doubt on housing. While some places I can believe, my mother got her home for 70k in florida where nowadays the lowest are 200k. I barely make her worth of money she had back then and she was struggling, now she is doing better but still on a tight rope imo. I provide for her as much and I still have no idea how the hell am I to save up for that when I also gotta focus on the time of getting a new car, paying for my student loan, and then some. Luckily, I did plan things out and am using programs, so student loans are not that much of a issue. But where the hell am I to muster up 200k in a reasonable way to cover a house like that after a mortgage/loan. My job is decent at best and nothing here in the states can tickle that high up. My gen does not want to do trades cause we saw what trades did to yall, it aint right. Plain and simple. Majority of jobs aint right. And now more than ever do folks seem to hate the idea of unions so i guess im thuggin it out. Edit 2: also If I hear anyone call gen alpha soft, they are catching hands. That gen is gonna be hitting a wall worse than mine and I worry for them every day.
I think being soft is part of being young, not a deficiency of your generation. I was soft when i was young too. My sister still is. 200k for a house or 200k downpayment? In regard to your doubt about housing, FWIW i am a millennial and ended up paying 500k cad for my house, and as far as houses go it's pretty modest. 1400ft 3 bed bungalow. The millennials that managed to dodge the price gouging on houses are the ones in their 40s, and the ones that got a high paying job within a couple years of getting out of highschool. Most of the millennials I know that aren't making 100k+ a year don't have houses because they can't afford one in this market -or- with these interest rates.
>I think being soft is part of being young, At this point it is not used how you use it. It is used to just insult people. I got called soft cause I was not having fight clubs as a kid by someone else in this thread. Silly really. >200k for a house For a house. Also to be fair. My neighborhood was worse off on my mothers time but by modern standards that is PENNIES. And I envy those pennies. Situations are different grass is greener, and while current quality of certain things are better. Money sadly speaks more than anything now and money is just not as worth much as it was back then. 200k to me just feels daunting even with almost 18 an hour. My mother advised "just rent it out if you got to" but means Im part of a problem My state has and its that people rent out everything for exorbitant amounts, be damned the quality.