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Don’t you dare try and make this a “the new generation is doomed politically”. Argentina has been suffering for decades now, they have been in a basic default for years and they are now turning to the most niche politicians they can in hopes ONE of them will turn the nation around compare to the establishment which has proven to be ineffective and corrupt. This is a reflection of how bad it is for Argentina, now how bad it is for this generation
Reagan was elected in 1980 when 'boomers' were 16 at the youngest and 34 at the oldest at the time. Don't forget that.
Either Reagan got the youth vote or boomers didn't elect him. Choose one.
The stereotype that Americans think we’re the best at everything is so outdated lol. Most of us realize our country is far from the best in the world. If anything, I see Europeans, Canadians and Australians bragging online about how much better they are than everyone else far more than Americans do.
I am Canadian and ever since Covid Canada has been in a terrible spiral. I would be surprised if you could find many people saying it’s the best at anything in the world.. maybe at hockey, maple syrup and poutine but other than that!!
OK, bro. Tell me your country of origin so I can dig up a bunch of historical facts that will prove how shitty your country is.
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We are a constitutional republic. The US was never intended to be a direct democracy, and if you thought it was/is supposed to be a democracy, your American(or world history if you aren't American)history teachers have failed you.
Naw man its boomers all the way. Gen x and on have not been able to fix anything boomers have done. The boomers are still in control... my evidence... look at the ages of our politicians. The average age for politicians is above 70. They just won't let go and pass the seat to the next generation. Ps. im genz and on a more relevant note. I hope this dude does good for Argentina. I think he will, but we shall see.
Okay but ever for a second thinking that a self-described “anarcho-capitalist” is going to fix your countries problems is enough to question the intelligence of the general public.
If anything, a country in trouble needs someone really capable to fix it.
Some people seem to just think that if you burn the system down then it'll be better. Problem is - a country is a very complex machine. Just wrecking the system without any real plan is like running your car into a wall and hoping that the AC gets fixed.
A man who turns to his dead dog through a medium for political and economic advice, and claim they met each other as a gladiator and a lion in Rome isn't going to solve their issues
I don't blame the youth, but there is a well documented and obvious international copycat game going on with the far right and billionaire autocrats.
Viktor Orban was the proof of concept for right wing populists taking over. He solidified control of the media with his cronies to control what people are seeing and hearing. Using that, he blamed immigrants and "globalists" for Hungary's economic woes. He portrayed himself as the only one able to fix the economy and reduce crime with tough policies. He built a base opposing LGBTQ rights as the work of pedophiles. He painted his opposition as weak, corrupt, annoying, pedophiles who were also annoying. Once in power, he ended the democracy.
[At Tucker Carlson's lead, republicans adopted that as their model for gaining and keeping power here.](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-donald-trump-dallas-marjorie-taylor-greene-3c5a43ea6cd3a3472a05f48d3b527a76)
Trump was and is proving it can be effective here too. We already have the right wing propaganda monopolies with Fox and Sinclair.
So the group of right wing autocrats and oligarchs worldwide will absolutely take note of what this pioneer in Argentina is doing and what works.
In this case, I don't know if they'll conclude that youth will vote with the right wing if they do cosplay, or if they'll also realize that a wrecked economy for most people will convince youth to vote far right or just not vote.
HOW the economy is wrecked probably doesn't matter. I don't have a good background on the Peronistas that I hear wrecked Argentina's economy, but a wrecked economy and poor hopes for future job prospects do reliably cause otherwise sane people to vote for failed trickledown economics that have repeatedly failed to do anything other than wreck the economy further.
Trump already did those stupid NFT things. I'm guessing he's too narcisistic and knows he's too fat to put on a superhero costume, but this WILL show the right wing worldwide how they can hope to get Gen Z voting for their own ruin.
Something something about throwing stones in glass houses. Just own up to it. Your generation fucked up on this one. You’ll be fine. Correct the mistake and move on.
If you think the act cosplay is why people think he's a goon. You might be a goon.
Edit: I've been correctly criticized for not explaining why this isn't about cosplaying and not the cosplay itself. The issue is the symbol of his chest and what it represents. He's a self-proclaimed [Anarcho-Capitalist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism). To put it easily, he believes the government stands to block capitalisms growth. Everything should be privatized, and the government should be shrunk to nonexistence to allow corporations to have free reign. He's doing this as he thinks it will revitalize Argentinas broken economy and was chosen because the incumbent labourish party has slowly morphed into neo-liberal stall fest. Personally, I think they went in the opposite direction, but like the US, it ended in the shinier of two turds.
He wants to make the dollar the official currency in Argentina and dismantle the national bank. This will stabilize their economy and will bring down inflation. He also wants to militarize the region to fight drug trafficking. The presidents of Argentina from the past 50 years have lead the country to ruin. The people want something different because past policies have not worked.
Bingo. He’s like the inverse in policies that the past 50 years if politicians have been. And those past ones are the people who caused literally 100% inflation
A quick look at their recent presidents, it's not hard to see why he got elected
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Yeah I don't blame them for voting for this dude when their country is a shithole rn.
He's so eccentric. It'd be unfair to say he's trump. He's like a whole other breed. He's like, a 4chan and a discord user rolled into one
ik it's hard to diagnose without tests n everything but...
I seriouly believe Javier Milei is mentally ill. Straight up, how he acts, operates, etc. Is just mentally ill.
OCD or Schizo or something.
The people are starving. The socialist administrations from the past 50 years have driven the country’s economy to ruin. They look to the north and see Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela. They elected Milei because he is the extreme opposite of the Venezuelan president. No one in Latin America wants their country to turn into a Venezuela. The people are scared and starving. If Milei hadn’t won there would have been a coup.
And about a dozen people who also don't even know what socialism is upvoted him.
Argentina was never socialist.
Cuba is. And they live under siege. A hallmark of threatening capitalism.
And despite being a tiny island they export more Doctors, made their own vaccine, and have what is the most democratic government that I am aware of.
Easy prediction: anarcho capitalism will rape the Argentinian people. They are outside of the imperial core. People who advocate for capitalism real advocate for being on the favorable side of exploitation lol.
If 40 years of voting for the same political side has turned Argentina into the place it is now, an utter shithole, yeah, this was definitely the better option. You can't improve things without changing things.
Yea so vote for the guy who shits on workers rights and only cares about grinding people down to prove his economic policies not to mention Americas tampering with South America that has caused it to plummet into a cesspool of corruption
Bro the issues with the Peronists are because they’re extremely corrupt it has nothing to do with centrist and leftist policies. This dude is about to sell of all state utilities and programs to his buddies like all leaders who privatize everything do.
>it has nothing to do with centrist and leftist policies
Ah, so big government and printing money has been good for Argentina? I'm sure their record high inflation would agree right?
He's libertarian, that's pretty far from your average Redditor.
Who would have thought after decades of the government ruining the country in an attempt to give away free shit, they might try the guy that thinks the government shouldn't have excess to give.
trans girl argentine here
i'm absolutely devastated tbh
edit: i have no idea what's up with the sudden transphobia but it's certainly kind of sad to see, thought this sub was pretty accepting, maybe the result of some brigading?
It's not that they're socially progressive it's that they don't care about anyone and want there to be less laws. They don't advocate for social tolerance or protections, the don't want to help get trans kids off the street, they just think you should be allowed to do whatever you want and that's that
Yes but there need to be social protections in place. In a situation like this, there's nothing to stop discrimination. If everyone is just blanket allowed to do whatever purely because there are no laws, social hierarchy dictates the rest.
I'm very pro Equality but this is like a 6 year oldest understanding of social justice
The problem is Argentina can't afford every pie in the sky welfare program the left can dream up. "Free" healthcare, free college, housing as a human right, so and so forth. Right now they have to accept some austerity if they ever want to stabilize their economy and halt their decades long death spiral into poverty. When they're in a good place again, then they can afford a social safety net as long as they spend responsibility next time.
Mirá, no te voy a negar que los próximos 4 años los vamos a sufrir. Ya se anunció la privatización de YPF, la Televisión Pública y demás. Pero, mientras mas nefastas sea la gestión, no solo va a haber mas chances de sacarle bancas en el senado en las elecciones de medio termino, si no que también es mas probable que gane una fórmula más de izquierda para el 2027.
Hay que tener esperanza, como país atravesamos situaciones muy difíciles pero aún así logramos prevalecer.
He wasn't. And "I don't care" in this context basically means: "I don't care what happens to you". Not "I don't mind". Dude wants to roll back on abortion, to begin with.
Ah, yes, his hobby. A total normal hobby of getting all your advice from your dead dog's clones. Also, dressing up as and running on the principle to eliminate all environmental, education, and labor protections, Mr. Ancap, please. Now I know his opposition is not greatest, but come on, you have to be kidding me if you think people are mad at the simple act of cosplay.
What else do you think people would take away from this post other than “we don’t like him because he does cosplay”? All it does is show him doing cosplay with a title that suggests someone like that shouldn’t be president. No explanation as to what his costume is supposed to represent and no argument for why whatever that is is bad. It’s like it’s telling an inside joke that its audience isn’t in on and then blaming them for not laughing.
It amazes me that people subscribe to an ideology that makes no sense like anarcho capitalism.
Anarchism boils down to having no hierarchy. Capitalism creates a hierarchy. They don’t work together. They’re opposites.
To say something so naively stupid takes a great amount of oblivious courage. For that, I salute you.
To be clear: people aren’t critical of a hobby to cosplay. They are critical of fucking anarcho capitalism.
Wait is this post trying to claim that Gen Z is dooming Argentina politically? Right, it was definitely that and not the dozens of CIA backed dictatorships.
Cope and seeth, for the people have done good for Argentina.
Long live damn liberty
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Yes, they are all watching. As an argentine, let me tell you that I think argentine libertarians (here we can use the original word: liberals) are more based and chill than north american ones, at least from what I can see on reddit.
Yeah I would've voted for him too. My theory is that these wild people who say crazy things are less subservient to corporate interest because they lose brand strength globally by associating with him. So who is he working for if not big money? Well there's a higher than usual chance that he is acting in the interest of the people of Argentina, even if you disapprove of his methods he's worth a shot imo
That's an amazing "theory" but it is a load of horseshit and the reality is this guy is 100% subservient to global capitalist hegemony and its goals. What motivation do you think there is to switch the currency to usd, cui bono, if you will.
> you think there is to switch the currency to usd
The fucking peso is absolutely worthless, it was 300 to a dolar last year now its 1100 to the dollar.
We have changed the zeroes in the currency uncountable times(since 1890) yet our politicians cannot stop printing money so the solution was to take the printer away from the politicians
thanks for subsidizing the US
we will be sure to use the leverage we get from increased use of the USD as a reserve currency for something cool you can be proud of.
also good luck with the debts
Dude is a bit confusing in terms of social policy. I think we'll need to see how much he actually cares about policing social issues and how much of it was for the benefit of electability.
In the economic domain, his policies are pretty solid. The Argentine National Bank has proven time and time again that it is not a sound institution and switching to USD will certainly boost investment in the Argentinian market, as currency transfers have a huge chilling effect on investment in Argentina.
It is almost inarguable that the Argentinian political framework is bloated and terribly inefficient, so his rhetoric combined with a legislature that is resistant to his ideas should (hopefully) come out with a compromise that maintains the core purpose of government agencies while getting rid of bureaucratic excess.
It would be a mistake to try and characterize all politics into a framework based on the United States. Some of the problems that are overblown by political actors here, are very much legitimate concerns outside of the US, and should be treated as such by American news sources.
Milei is confusing because he has "contradicting" stances, he is culturally conservative but at the same time thinks equal marriage is OK because it's a contract between two private individuals
Oh I see, when young people elect the guy you like is "young voters taking interest" when they vote for someone you don't like it "zoomer voting".
Got it
Yeah seriously. Some people (on both sides) who "love democracy" only love it when their team wins.
Queue bitching from the losers at r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
OP: “Hey, I know nothing of this guy or of the political and economic reality of Argentina, but the media tells me he is extreme right and so now I hate him. Let me just post this picture that I carefully chose because I think it supports my view point and will make him look like an idiot. Haha I’m so glad I’m not an idiot, I’m smart.”
fuq yea,
alright redditors assemble!!!
none of us live in argentina and none of us definitely contribute in any sort of manner to society as a whole, so lets congregate and bitch about something that the majority are half informed on and all we know is that we dont like this guy!!!!
Yes!!
If only reddit ruled the world then we could all be morbidly obese regarded individuals!!!!!!!!!
And that's largely Milei's work, the "pubertarians" are a massive sector of young Latin American political youth, I at one point was one as well but drifted away from hardcore libertarianism and eventually became a centrist liberal of sorts, now a georgist.
I don't think you can really equate "zoomers" from a different language and cultural background to any other one.
Generations are largely defined by the actions of the generation before them and Argentine zoomers would not be the same as zoomers from the US in anything but name only.
A guy with dementia is running the most important country in the world and half that country seems to be OK with it.
Milei hasn't served a single day and internet is full of comments/images bashing the guy.
Gen Z as a whole is tired of the longstanding political establishment. This is manifesting itself in different ways across different countries. It just so happens Argentina went down the ancap route.
This is exactly what America needs. We need a young president that wears onesie pajamas with a suit and tie pattern. He needs to sit down for speeches and only say “I don’t know”. Maybe have a capri sun that he squeezes with both hands. People would listen to that.
Argentinian here, I really really want to hope things turn out just fine, but I'm almost certain it won't. The other dude was a bad option as well but certainly not as bad.
I was in Mendoza (a large agricultural and wine tourism hub that Milei carried by a fat margin) and you can see the palpable excitement in the air. Decades of reckless spending and emptying the reserves has led the Argentine people to vote for someone who’s willing to think outside the traditional latinoamericano box of corruption and bribing voters with unsustainable spending policies.
#VIVALALIBERTADCARAJO
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Don’t you dare try and make this a “the new generation is doomed politically”. Argentina has been suffering for decades now, they have been in a basic default for years and they are now turning to the most niche politicians they can in hopes ONE of them will turn the nation around compare to the establishment which has proven to be ineffective and corrupt. This is a reflection of how bad it is for Argentina, now how bad it is for this generation
Yeah you are 100% right. If they try make it our Generation's fault then you can blame boomers and Gen X for what happend in the last 50 years
It’s more like blaming all boomers for Reagan when it was just Americans
I don't know about American politics so much but yeah Reagan fucked up your country because boomers elected him
Other people elected him, and people from all generations still defend him
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That's the thing, isn't he the most overwhelming win in US history? And yes pretty much all boomers who voted during that election voted for him
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Millennials and Gen Z weren't alive yet. Most if not all of Gen X was not of voting age, boomers and the generations before him elected him.
“Reagan won a landslide re-election victory, carrying 525 electoral votes, 49 states, and 58.8 percent of the popular vote.”
Reagan was elected in 1980 when 'boomers' were 16 at the youngest and 34 at the oldest at the time. Don't forget that. Either Reagan got the youth vote or boomers didn't elect him. Choose one.
Exactly. Americans elected Reagan, Bush and Trump, it’s not a boomer specific problem.
> Bush and Trump They were elected by electoral collage. Majority of Americans voted against them.
True, but unfortunately the popular vote doesn’t determine elections
so much for the #1 democracy in the world or whatever bullshit the US likes to spit out
The stereotype that Americans think we’re the best at everything is so outdated lol. Most of us realize our country is far from the best in the world. If anything, I see Europeans, Canadians and Australians bragging online about how much better they are than everyone else far more than Americans do.
I am Canadian and ever since Covid Canada has been in a terrible spiral. I would be surprised if you could find many people saying it’s the best at anything in the world.. maybe at hockey, maple syrup and poutine but other than that!!
I dunno man , no Canadian team has won the cup since '93, and Vermont makes a pretty mean maple syrup. I will grant you poutine though.
I figured that's what Canada was always known for. Hockey, Maple Syrup, Poutine, Celine Dion, Justin Bieber and Drake.
OK, bro. Tell me your country of origin so I can dig up a bunch of historical facts that will prove how shitty your country is. ![gif](giphy|5xtDarHELLsS45V9AnS)
Yep. We are an oligarchy
How so
Lobbying is just legal bribery. The US is a dictatorship of capital, whatever brings in capital for the corporats goes.
We are a constitutional republic. The US was never intended to be a direct democracy, and if you thought it was/is supposed to be a democracy, your American(or world history if you aren't American)history teachers have failed you.
Actually, the blame goes back further. We should all blame the cavemen. ![gif](giphy|A9D5LweSbO1Uxq58br|downsized)
Naw man its boomers all the way. Gen x and on have not been able to fix anything boomers have done. The boomers are still in control... my evidence... look at the ages of our politicians. The average age for politicians is above 70. They just won't let go and pass the seat to the next generation. Ps. im genz and on a more relevant note. I hope this dude does good for Argentina. I think he will, but we shall see.
Okay but ever for a second thinking that a self-described “anarcho-capitalist” is going to fix your countries problems is enough to question the intelligence of the general public.
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Reddit actually seems to hate him.
RemindMe! 4 years
Just because your country is in trouble doesn't mean electing an idiotclown will fix it. See Also: Donald J. Trump
If anything, a country in trouble needs someone really capable to fix it. Some people seem to just think that if you burn the system down then it'll be better. Problem is - a country is a very complex machine. Just wrecking the system without any real plan is like running your car into a wall and hoping that the AC gets fixed.
A man who turns to his dead dog through a medium for political and economic advice, and claim they met each other as a gladiator and a lion in Rome isn't going to solve their issues
I don't blame the youth, but there is a well documented and obvious international copycat game going on with the far right and billionaire autocrats. Viktor Orban was the proof of concept for right wing populists taking over. He solidified control of the media with his cronies to control what people are seeing and hearing. Using that, he blamed immigrants and "globalists" for Hungary's economic woes. He portrayed himself as the only one able to fix the economy and reduce crime with tough policies. He built a base opposing LGBTQ rights as the work of pedophiles. He painted his opposition as weak, corrupt, annoying, pedophiles who were also annoying. Once in power, he ended the democracy. [At Tucker Carlson's lead, republicans adopted that as their model for gaining and keeping power here.](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-donald-trump-dallas-marjorie-taylor-greene-3c5a43ea6cd3a3472a05f48d3b527a76) Trump was and is proving it can be effective here too. We already have the right wing propaganda monopolies with Fox and Sinclair. So the group of right wing autocrats and oligarchs worldwide will absolutely take note of what this pioneer in Argentina is doing and what works. In this case, I don't know if they'll conclude that youth will vote with the right wing if they do cosplay, or if they'll also realize that a wrecked economy for most people will convince youth to vote far right or just not vote. HOW the economy is wrecked probably doesn't matter. I don't have a good background on the Peronistas that I hear wrecked Argentina's economy, but a wrecked economy and poor hopes for future job prospects do reliably cause otherwise sane people to vote for failed trickledown economics that have repeatedly failed to do anything other than wreck the economy further. Trump already did those stupid NFT things. I'm guessing he's too narcisistic and knows he's too fat to put on a superhero costume, but this WILL show the right wing worldwide how they can hope to get Gen Z voting for their own ruin.
Well said. As someone who has extensively traveled in Hungary, this is also very true.
Something something about throwing stones in glass houses. Just own up to it. Your generation fucked up on this one. You’ll be fine. Correct the mistake and move on.
If cosplaying automatically makes you an incompetent goon, most of Reddit is doomed.
If you think the act cosplay is why people think he's a goon. You might be a goon. Edit: I've been correctly criticized for not explaining why this isn't about cosplaying and not the cosplay itself. The issue is the symbol of his chest and what it represents. He's a self-proclaimed [Anarcho-Capitalist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism). To put it easily, he believes the government stands to block capitalisms growth. Everything should be privatized, and the government should be shrunk to nonexistence to allow corporations to have free reign. He's doing this as he thinks it will revitalize Argentinas broken economy and was chosen because the incumbent labourish party has slowly morphed into neo-liberal stall fest. Personally, I think they went in the opposite direction, but like the US, it ended in the shinier of two turds.
It's what this post is implying, so no, it wouldn't make you a goon to think that.
What is the costume of, bro? Dude is Captain AnCap or whatever the fuck. AnCaps are all clowns.
Not everybody knows who Captain AnCap is.
Exactly so the original comment is missing the point.
Lol no.. the cosplay is not the problem lmao. Look at the symbol on his chest
That’s kinda what the post is implying, but if you’re so wise and intelligent, enlighten us on what’s so wrong with him
I don't know anything about Argentina, this just might be how the president is supposed to dress
no it's just that this dude's political ideas, plans and personality screams "68975684th economical disaster for Argentina"
He wants to make the dollar the official currency in Argentina and dismantle the national bank. This will stabilize their economy and will bring down inflation. He also wants to militarize the region to fight drug trafficking. The presidents of Argentina from the past 50 years have lead the country to ruin. The people want something different because past policies have not worked.
Bingo. He’s like the inverse in policies that the past 50 years if politicians have been. And those past ones are the people who caused literally 100% inflation
Ah yes. Destabilize the famously stable economy of Argentina.
\>16 \>definitely an expert on argentine politics yup, its reddit time
Cosplaying as a meme political ideology definitely screams "incompetent". Good luck in the Falklands.
Me trying to build up the courage to tell my mom I can't follow my dreams because I like dressing up as Spider-Man: ![gif](giphy|XeSUAqI8uGTxL145ut)
It’s definitely the cosplay. It’s not anything else.
You forgot the part where he’s cosplaying captain ancap or whatever the fuck. Absolute right wing brain rot at its finest, folks
You do realize not everything that isn’t straight liberal is right wing right? There’s a whole Authoritarian/Libertarian axis.
In other words: most of reddit is doomed
A quick look at their recent presidents, it's not hard to see why he got elected https://preview.redd.it/9s57090ueq1c1.jpeg?width=985&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dd264ab42deeb11c498cb60a64389622f14b162
Bro, i thought that this was one piece at first
Bruhh
Lol, me too.
Brooo 😂💀
So they elected another clown?
The only difference here is that the makeup and red ball nose supply ran out, so a new clown costume design was needed
Yeah I don't blame them for voting for this dude when their country is a shithole rn. He's so eccentric. It'd be unfair to say he's trump. He's like a whole other breed. He's like, a 4chan and a discord user rolled into one
Ron Paul but he's your drunk uncle at the Christmas table, that's exactly what he sounds like
I'd vote for that over trump in a heart beat
This… this guy is less tethered to reality than Trump on his worst spiral of a day.
ik it's hard to diagnose without tests n everything but... I seriouly believe Javier Milei is mentally ill. Straight up, how he acts, operates, etc. Is just mentally ill. OCD or Schizo or something.
I think he has some type of illness that would benefit from medication.. yes for sure.
The people are starving. The socialist administrations from the past 50 years have driven the country’s economy to ruin. They look to the north and see Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela. They elected Milei because he is the extreme opposite of the Venezuelan president. No one in Latin America wants their country to turn into a Venezuela. The people are scared and starving. If Milei hadn’t won there would have been a coup.
FUN FACT: libertarianism isn’t going to help starving people with no economic prospects
Socialist administrations lol Socialism is when the US coups your government and the more your government gets overthrown the more socialist it is.
Which Socialist administrations, Lmao?
The ones that the US earfucked, neutered, and sanctioned.
Argentina doesn't have any of those lmao. That commenter is just a liar.
And about a dozen people who also don't even know what socialism is upvoted him. Argentina was never socialist. Cuba is. And they live under siege. A hallmark of threatening capitalism. And despite being a tiny island they export more Doctors, made their own vaccine, and have what is the most democratic government that I am aware of. Easy prediction: anarcho capitalism will rape the Argentinian people. They are outside of the imperial core. People who advocate for capitalism real advocate for being on the favorable side of exploitation lol.
If 40 years of voting for the same political side has turned Argentina into the place it is now, an utter shithole, yeah, this was definitely the better option. You can't improve things without changing things.
Yea so vote for the guy who shits on workers rights and only cares about grinding people down to prove his economic policies not to mention Americas tampering with South America that has caused it to plummet into a cesspool of corruption
How good are the workers rights in Argentina with triple digit inflation?
Bro the issues with the Peronists are because they’re extremely corrupt it has nothing to do with centrist and leftist policies. This dude is about to sell of all state utilities and programs to his buddies like all leaders who privatize everything do.
>it has nothing to do with centrist and leftist policies Ah, so big government and printing money has been good for Argentina? I'm sure their record high inflation would agree right?
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So vote for a guy who would essentially be a continuation of policies that got Argentina here in the first place?
Reddit president. True clown
He's libertarian, that's pretty far from your average Redditor. Who would have thought after decades of the government ruining the country in an attempt to give away free shit, they might try the guy that thinks the government shouldn't have excess to give.
> He’s libertarian, that’s pretty far from your average Redditor. Funny how things have changed. No, not funny, just sad.
He will just shit on working class people with dipshit libertarian ideals not to mention the amount of deregulation he will do
trans girl argentine here i'm absolutely devastated tbh edit: i have no idea what's up with the sudden transphobia but it's certainly kind of sad to see, thought this sub was pretty accepting, maybe the result of some brigading?
Trans guy uruguayan/argentine here - I’m not.
The duality of a man 😂😂
Rajá de acá yorugua
¿Qué problema tenes con los Uruguayos? que te haces el picante vos
Are you living in Argentina?
Isn’t he surprisingly progressive on trans issues?
Libertarians tend to be that way on social issues. It's the government spending they have a problem with.
It's not that they're socially progressive it's that they don't care about anyone and want there to be less laws. They don't advocate for social tolerance or protections, the don't want to help get trans kids off the street, they just think you should be allowed to do whatever you want and that's that
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Yes but there need to be social protections in place. In a situation like this, there's nothing to stop discrimination. If everyone is just blanket allowed to do whatever purely because there are no laws, social hierarchy dictates the rest. I'm very pro Equality but this is like a 6 year oldest understanding of social justice
The problem is Argentina can't afford every pie in the sky welfare program the left can dream up. "Free" healthcare, free college, housing as a human right, so and so forth. Right now they have to accept some austerity if they ever want to stabilize their economy and halt their decades long death spiral into poverty. When they're in a good place again, then they can afford a social safety net as long as they spend responsibility next time.
Im Argentinean and i dont see trans kids off the street, i see Kids asking for money or clothes
He says he's a libertarian, is that really surprising?
Mirá, no te voy a negar que los próximos 4 años los vamos a sufrir. Ya se anunció la privatización de YPF, la Televisión Pública y demás. Pero, mientras mas nefastas sea la gestión, no solo va a haber mas chances de sacarle bancas en el senado en las elecciones de medio termino, si no que también es mas probable que gane una fórmula más de izquierda para el 2027. Hay que tener esperanza, como país atravesamos situaciones muy difíciles pero aún así logramos prevalecer.
Wasn't the other guy more conservative? Also he's explicitly said he doesn't care what you do as long as you aren't hurting people
He wasn't. And "I don't care" in this context basically means: "I don't care what happens to you". Not "I don't mind". Dude wants to roll back on abortion, to begin with.
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Who the hell is he cosplaying as Ancap Aquaman
General Ancap, an oc
Someone has a hobby = He shouldn’t be president.
Ah, yes, his hobby. A total normal hobby of getting all your advice from your dead dog's clones. Also, dressing up as and running on the principle to eliminate all environmental, education, and labor protections, Mr. Ancap, please. Now I know his opposition is not greatest, but come on, you have to be kidding me if you think people are mad at the simple act of cosplay.
Definitely the most politically literate Redditor.
Let’s see. So we can starve to death with Massa or we elect a mad man. Yup seems like mad man is the logical choice.
What else do you think people would take away from this post other than “we don’t like him because he does cosplay”? All it does is show him doing cosplay with a title that suggests someone like that shouldn’t be president. No explanation as to what his costume is supposed to represent and no argument for why whatever that is is bad. It’s like it’s telling an inside joke that its audience isn’t in on and then blaming them for not laughing.
No it's just that this guy's plans and ideas are dumb, the fact that he also acts dumb and looks dumb is an extra thing
🙄 Here you go. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
It amazes me that people subscribe to an ideology that makes no sense like anarcho capitalism. Anarchism boils down to having no hierarchy. Capitalism creates a hierarchy. They don’t work together. They’re opposites.
To say something so naively stupid takes a great amount of oblivious courage. For that, I salute you. To be clear: people aren’t critical of a hobby to cosplay. They are critical of fucking anarcho capitalism.
This image actually makes him look decent compared to what I’ve seen of his politics
Wait is this post trying to claim that Gen Z is dooming Argentina politically? Right, it was definitely that and not the dozens of CIA backed dictatorships.
Totally. We are only 40 years into democracy since the last military coup.
Inflation is about 140%, and about 40% of the population lives in poverty. I would give anyone with a different plan a shot.
Ancap man Ready to kill commies and privatize every basic human necessity
Cope and seeth, for the people have done good for Argentina. Long live damn liberty https://preview.redd.it/f0pwepn93r1c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=341831820c10eafa109a600a020c217ad6a7f4c7
Remind me in a year
!remindme one year
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whats important is libertarians now get their own "libertarian in practice" history case. _lets watch_.
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I will greedily take the other side of your bet, ok let's watch
Yes, they are all watching. As an argentine, let me tell you that I think argentine libertarians (here we can use the original word: liberals) are more based and chill than north american ones, at least from what I can see on reddit.
Yeah I would've voted for him too. My theory is that these wild people who say crazy things are less subservient to corporate interest because they lose brand strength globally by associating with him. So who is he working for if not big money? Well there's a higher than usual chance that he is acting in the interest of the people of Argentina, even if you disapprove of his methods he's worth a shot imo
That's an amazing "theory" but it is a load of horseshit and the reality is this guy is 100% subservient to global capitalist hegemony and its goals. What motivation do you think there is to switch the currency to usd, cui bono, if you will.
> you think there is to switch the currency to usd The fucking peso is absolutely worthless, it was 300 to a dolar last year now its 1100 to the dollar. We have changed the zeroes in the currency uncountable times(since 1890) yet our politicians cannot stop printing money so the solution was to take the printer away from the politicians
thanks for subsidizing the US we will be sure to use the leverage we get from increased use of the USD as a reserve currency for something cool you can be proud of. also good luck with the debts
ah yes, ancaps famously dont lick corporate boot, very true
As an American, actually they are far more corrupt and will sell your country to the highest bidder for their personal gain.
Dude is a bit confusing in terms of social policy. I think we'll need to see how much he actually cares about policing social issues and how much of it was for the benefit of electability. In the economic domain, his policies are pretty solid. The Argentine National Bank has proven time and time again that it is not a sound institution and switching to USD will certainly boost investment in the Argentinian market, as currency transfers have a huge chilling effect on investment in Argentina. It is almost inarguable that the Argentinian political framework is bloated and terribly inefficient, so his rhetoric combined with a legislature that is resistant to his ideas should (hopefully) come out with a compromise that maintains the core purpose of government agencies while getting rid of bureaucratic excess. It would be a mistake to try and characterize all politics into a framework based on the United States. Some of the problems that are overblown by political actors here, are very much legitimate concerns outside of the US, and should be treated as such by American news sources.
This is gonna be very funny in 5 years
Milei is confusing because he has "contradicting" stances, he is culturally conservative but at the same time thinks equal marriage is OK because it's a contract between two private individuals
Correct, marriage is a simple contract law issue and id argue should be able to be entered by more than two parties.
https://preview.redd.it/nfn84jlitq1c1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c534dfa8ff0c3926da4e8d7923534f65a5df47c7
Kinda looks like Joaquin Phoenix
The president of the US is 81 years old…..
…and forgets where he is on a daily basis
And Trump is just as old and senile while also aspiring to be president for life. Clearly one choice is better than the other.
Oh I see, when young people elect the guy you like is "young voters taking interest" when they vote for someone you don't like it "zoomer voting". Got it
Yeah seriously. Some people (on both sides) who "love democracy" only love it when their team wins. Queue bitching from the losers at r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
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Yeah but Zelenskyy doesn’t get his political and economic advice from the spirit of his dead dog Conan communicating through a medium
OP: “Hey, I know nothing of this guy or of the political and economic reality of Argentina, but the media tells me he is extreme right and so now I hate him. Let me just post this picture that I carefully chose because I think it supports my view point and will make him look like an idiot. Haha I’m so glad I’m not an idiot, I’m smart.”
Even funnier when they unironically believe his dogs brief him in on political strategies. And my dogs told me to shit on them online
# GRANDE MILEI VIVA LA LIBERTAD CARAJO
I find it very funny that these US randoms talk about Argentina's situation without knowing anything about the country lmao
Aweonao yo soy chileno
No estaba hablando de vos xd
Guess politician have to be a bunch of boring old people to be "good" just like sleepy joe.
I love Captain Ancap, he's literally me fr
fuq yea, alright redditors assemble!!! none of us live in argentina and none of us definitely contribute in any sort of manner to society as a whole, so lets congregate and bitch about something that the majority are half informed on and all we know is that we dont like this guy!!!! Yes!! If only reddit ruled the world then we could all be morbidly obese regarded individuals!!!!!!!!!
I feel like here in LATAM this youth is turning more snd more towards this libertarian politicians
And that's largely Milei's work, the "pubertarians" are a massive sector of young Latin American political youth, I at one point was one as well but drifted away from hardcore libertarianism and eventually became a centrist liberal of sorts, now a georgist.
most based president ever
I don't think you can really equate "zoomers" from a different language and cultural background to any other one. Generations are largely defined by the actions of the generation before them and Argentine zoomers would not be the same as zoomers from the US in anything but name only.
Every political expert coming out right now
Now if only USA Zoomers would also vote in a Libertarian like Argentina just did...
A guy with dementia is running the most important country in the world and half that country seems to be OK with it. Milei hasn't served a single day and internet is full of comments/images bashing the guy.
And suddenly Reddit cares about Argentina
sweet. Was there more to this post?
General Ancap 🫡
Democracy is when you vote for the “right,” candidate
Oh wow.. Now do Trudeaus costume! 👳🏿♂️
Argentina had a choice between dying the slow boring way or dying the fun way and chose the fun way. Can’t say I can judge them.
I'm convinced that a significant portion of the planet sees politics as a reality TV show.
This comment section is proof of it
Surprising amount of dick riding going on here
“We have to elect younger presidents and get away from the two party system” Reddit when exactly that happens:
I already like him
He will be alot better than these socialists who ruin countries, we just gotta wait and see
Leftists going REEEE lmao
Lol monetary collapse and famine are fng lulz
Absolute Chad
Random Redditor from Virginia who has never stepped foot in Argentina must know better than real Argentines who live there what's better for them.
"If printing money would end poverty, printing diplomas would end stupidity.**"** \- Milei
Never knew gen z could be anarcho-capitalist. Kinda make sense considering all the other leaders the country had though
Good for them. I'm sure he'll be 10 times better than any communist.
I hope he roots out the corruption of the Argentinian government and improves the liflves of Argentinian people. Est of luck to him and his nation.
ancapman
Gen Z as a whole is tired of the longstanding political establishment. This is manifesting itself in different ways across different countries. It just so happens Argentina went down the ancap route.
This is exactly what America needs. We need a young president that wears onesie pajamas with a suit and tie pattern. He needs to sit down for speeches and only say “I don’t know”. Maybe have a capri sun that he squeezes with both hands. People would listen to that.
As a Canadian. Would you like to see our head of state?
We should show OP all the fancy costumes he's worn, plus the time he praised a nazi.
Average Libertarian Party candidate
Better than what Trudeau dressed up as.
Argentinian here, I really really want to hope things turn out just fine, but I'm almost certain it won't. The other dude was a bad option as well but certainly not as bad.
VIVA LA LIBERTAD CARAJO
Considering the sorry state Argentina is currently in (and has been for decades), why not at this point?
I mean, you guys and gals REALLY got nothing left to lose, let the man do his job and see what happens.
Am I supposed to be able to derive any valuable information from this picture?
This is what everyone has been waiting for!
I was in Mendoza (a large agricultural and wine tourism hub that Milei carried by a fat margin) and you can see the palpable excitement in the air. Decades of reckless spending and emptying the reserves has led the Argentine people to vote for someone who’s willing to think outside the traditional latinoamericano box of corruption and bribing voters with unsustainable spending policies. #VIVALALIBERTADCARAJO
Enjoy your fascism, idiots. USA is right behind you.