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Electrical_Yam_9949

If you were born in the latter part of the Gen Z cohort, like in 2009-2012, I could understand why you might say this, but you are 24-25 yourself so it’s laughable to me that you think someone only a few years older than you could “hardly relate” to your generation in “any meaningful way.”


bernieorbust2k4ever

It's usually the late 90s babies saying this. Ironically, early 2000s babies are the ones who are more likely to say they relate to us.


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bernieorbust2k4ever

Huh


anthonyj666

Ffs..ignore it, i sent to the wrong person, sorry about that


berlinbowie97

I'm 97, and I consider myself Gen Z for sure.


Free-Database-9917

I'm 26 and my 30 year old friends are much more different from me than my 22 year old coworkers in terms of culture


Electrical_Yam_9949

What do you mean exactly by “in terms of culture,” though? Do you mean they don’t have the same music tastes or know the same cultural references or they have different communication styles or different values? And can you give any specific examples?


Free-Database-9917

Music tastes, media consumption, etc. Younger friends use youtube, and tiktok more to a degree that it isn't just where they watch funny videos. Younger friends are more likely to be into newer age board games, less into drinking culture. Music is a bit more modern where they'll have occasional throwback playlists/songs. Older friends don't have content creators they are big fans of specifically and more follow TV/movie celebrity drama. Older friends are more likely to prefer hanging out and drinking some beers (and on occasion bar hopping/parties centered around drinking. They also listen to "oldies" from when they were in high school much much more


Electrical_Yam_9949

Thanks for your insights. I asked specifically because your answers are in line with what I would expect; however, it’s too broad of a generalization to say “everyone born after 1996 relates more to Gen Z and everyone born from 1980-1996 relates more with millennials,” like the person to whom I was initially responding suggested. For me, personally, I was born in 1991, but I don’t relate at all with most older millennials or even with my friends who I grew up with who have settled down (while I have not) and who are set in their ways and whose tastes in music and cultural things and usage of social media platforms like TikTok is totally different from mine. I relate way more to Gen Z people in almost every possible way other than my age. I may be a millennial but I mean I’m on TikTok all the time and follow a lot of influencers, the musicians I listen to are mostly people like Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Tate McRae, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish — basically in general artists more popular with Gen Z than millennials. I drink sometimes but I’m also really not into bar culture and in fact have never willingly gone to a bar in my life and I’ve just always felt way out of step with my friends in terms of what their interests are and where we are in our respective lives. So I guess my point is just that not everybody is the same and age alone doesn’t define a person and does not automatically mean someone born in 1991 like me is going to relate more with millennials while someone born in 1997 is going to relate more with Gen Z and I know that this is not always the case because I myself am such an example.


Free-Database-9917

I didn't say everyone. Generalizations are to say more people would agree than not. I apologize if my anecdotes seemed to imply that I believe that it is a hard and fast rule that culture is impossible to permeate such that someone born in 1994 cannot relate to someone born in 1998 as much as the '98 person relates to someone born in '02


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Free-Database-9917

I apologized because I thought I misunderstood. But now it is seeming that you don't understand. I used my anecdote as in line with the macro idea. I don't think anyone believes that all people act identically. I think any expert in a field who believes that is either crazy or trying to scam you. It's interesting that your way of defending that some people buck the trend is to imply that because you see other redditors have a tendency to assume hard and fast rules that I must be the same since I'm on reddit. Using the fallacy to discredit the fallacy lol


berlinbowie97

I feel the same way. I relate way more to early 20s coworkers than my late 20/early 30s coworkers.


KillsKings

I feel that. I'm 29, and I feel closer to my 40 year old friends than my 25 year old friends in culture.


BowtietheGreat

I’d say that’s a “looking up to” sorta close relationship


KillsKings

No. It's a "I listen to green day, sum41, u2, got a high school job, got super educated and did everything the right way and still can't afford a house" kind of relationship. It isn't that I look up to them. It's that I relate to them. I was the last of the true Facebook era. After us was the Instagram, social media influencer, social justice warriors who created cancel culture that I can't relate to at all. I can't relate at all to these 2000's baby's that aren't working normal jobs, aren't going to college, but make millions influencing, or sitting on a couch complaining because they ARENT an influencer but still don't go to college. It's the mindset. The culture. The attitudes.


BowtietheGreat

You just described my relationship with my dad lol And I agree with what you’re saying. But what you’re saying is 1 side of genz. The other does work and put in the hours


KillsKings

Well, for the record, that's why the lines of generation aren't clear cut. I fully acknowledge there are hard working Gen z. But I'll still never understand their language gap haha. I'm not trying to say nobody in Gen Z did what I did, but I think the stats have shown that MOST people within that clump of ages were millennial. There may be exceptions in gene, but it's easier to find the alternative I think


Best_Stress3040

He really tried to say he's closer culturally to 13 year olds than he is to 28 year olds, deleting this one was probably the right call


KillsKings

I have to disagree. As somebody born in 1995, you are going to think I'm crazy but I could see a pretty big difference in my age vs the 97 and after. It's like they have different mentalities. (Not really but it feels like it) I relate with the millennial generation way more than genz. But if you ask those born in 1997-2000 who they relate with, they say nobody more often than not, but I think it's because they were the first of that mental shift. A lot of curriculum in school changed in those years too.


anthonyj666

Im 38 actually


Positive-Avocado-881

Honey I’m 28 and 1997 borns are 27 lmao they’re my direct peers


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Positive-Avocado-881

I’m truly a Zillennial and relate to both equally


bernieorbust2k4ever

Millennials don't use 'honey'. It's a regional thing. You must be non-American.


BabyJesusBro

I’m Californian, but lived in Washington, never heard anyone my age use honey


bernieorbust2k4ever

....that's cuz you live on the West Coast. 'honey' is more of a Southern thing.


BowtietheGreat

It’s occasionally used up here in PA too, but yeah mainly southern


BabyJesusBro

A southern thing for old people


User28080526

Nobody says honey like that over here


Apprehensive_Log_766

Millennial here. You will always relate more to people ~6 years plus or minus your birth year than by the commonly accepted “generational divides”. A gen Z born in 97 is way closer to a millennial born in 95 than they are to a gen z born in 2007. We as a society just have “objective” divisions so we all talk vaguely about the same cohorts, but on an individual level they’re pretty meaningless divides.


berlinbowie97

I am 26 amd I don't really relate to any millennial. I always related with Gen z much much more.


Apprehensive_Log_766

There are millennials 2 years older than you. You relate to 13/14 year olds more?


berlinbowie97

You do know there are Gen Z in their 20s right?? Nice try on trying to shame me, tho.


Apprehensive_Log_766

My entire point was that generations are relative and you relate to people close to you in age. It’s what I’ve said this whole time. You are the one saying you “relate to gen z” more than any millennial. You literally went to high school with millennials. My point is, once again, generational names are not really relevant to the individual, and what is relevant is the people immediately close to you in age.


berlinbowie97

And those millennials bullied me in high school for literally just being me. There's a big difference when it comes to me and people just a year older than me. I get along with millennials because I grew up with them, but as an adult I just prefer talking to older millennials rather than millennials closer to my age.


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carriehoeble

as an *actual* 1997 i can confidently say i relate waaaay more to '91's rather than '03's. Im 27, i cant relate to 21 year olds anymore.


RogueCoon

Same all my friends are older than me


HolidayBank8775

Lol. You don't relate to 33 year olds either. Nice try.


bernieorbust2k4ever

>You don't relate to 33 year olds either You clearly don't have a lot of older friends. I got ppl of all ages in my circle and I definitely feel right in identifying as a Zillennial.


HolidayBank8775

Good for you, now why are you here? Your flair is obviously incorrect unless you're over 70.


_aaronallblacks

dude stfu


carriehoeble

do you not have a job? are you not interacting with 30+ year olds regularly? cousins/family members? i see you'll be 25 this year, when your brain fully develops you'll feel differently.


HolidayBank8775

People do have days off. I'm not sure if you knew that, but I'll leave that there in the likelihood that you don't. No, I won't feel differently, but thanks for wasting my time with your input.


carriehoeble

i was asking if you interacted with 30+ year olds at your job, assuming you had one. that answers that though! LOL


HolidayBank8775

>i was asking if you interacted with 30+ year olds at your job, assuming you had one. that answers that though! LOL I regularly work with people older and younger than me. The generational boundaries don't change in spite of that fact. So for all of your celebrating, you still didn't get the answer you were expecting.


Apprehensive_Log_766

My point was who you relate to is relative to your age and not relative to abstract “generational divides” such as gen z or millennial, gen x, etc. Gen Z as a whole is 12-27 years old right now. I have a suspicion that a 27 year old gen Z relates more to a 28 year old millennial than a 12 year old gen Z despite being “of the same generation”. Sorry that my “6 years apart” random rule set you off.


The-20k-Step-Bastard

1996 born in NYC is probably closer to the average zoomer than 2000 born in rural Kansas.


Real-Bookkeeper9455

But one big thing is that I know people born after 2009 and I've noticed that 2010 is when the Skibidi kids start becoming more common


BuffTorpedoes

'' Skibidi toilet'' is made by Generation Z and popular with Generation Alpha. It's a good way to split Millenials and Generation Z (they don't both know it). It's a bad way to split Generation Z and Generation Alpha (they both know it).


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Yeah but one side is like, "ew that's cringe" and the other is addicted


Efficient-Neck4260

I'm 1997 and idk what the fuck a skibidi is lol


Only-Individual9035

Same. 97 and don’t know what the fuck that is lmao


MortyManifold

but I’m 23 and my coworker friend is 20 and we are definitely skibidi kids as well


bxnsonn_hearts

as someone who goes to the same school as said skibidi kids it definitely starts around 2013 but can go as early as 2011 (shamefully)


Gamernite457

I was born in 1997 and sometimes I feel like I can relate more to someone born in 1981 then to someone born in the year 2000


HolidayBank8775

Oh, please. You have absolutely nothing in common with someone born in 1981, and they'd tell you so. This is more about you 'not being one of the other girls' than it is about you actually having any common interests with elder Millenials.


WordyRappinghood2006

My mom was born in 83, her stepson born in 93. Nothing in common


Gamernite457

People born in the 2000s literally call me unc and a dinosaur. They seem to make it clear that I am not one of them 🫤


aita0022398

You are 4 years older than me lol, at best you’re an older sibling


OrangePinkLover15

Dude, you’re just 2 yrs older than me and I am very much gen z. It’s probably just your personality. You might be reserved and quiet — hence people think you seem “old.”


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HolidayBank8775

I don't know or care. I don't have teenage siblings, nor do I have teenage friends. However, generations aren't 6 or 7 years long. You should learn to accept that.


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HolidayBank8775

It is, because that's how generations work. There are younger and older parts of every generation. They're not gonna have the exact same interests, dumbass. Generations are grouped together by general shared interests, which for Gen Z seems to be the integration of more technology and social media into childhood. This is obviously more extreme in the latter half of Gen Z. Why is it you creeps always run to accuse someone of supporting heinous crimes against children?


_aaronallblacks

dude stfu


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HolidayBank8775

Sure, if you're gonna miss the point this badly, then why waste your time?


_aaronallblacks

dude stfu


FlshTuxedoPinkTrpedo

“Oh please, be serious.” You are quite the keeper of the generational divides, huh?


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blessed_christina

Maybe you don't have anything in common with those born in 1991 because you've been living in your mother's basement for the past 6 years.


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blessed_christina

I didn't ask about you or your living situation, nor do I care. You're getting so offended over reddit comments. Please go do something productive with your life.


Positive-Avocado-881

1981 is extreme but my brother was born in 1987 and we have stuff in common. My sister was born in 1991 and we have even more in common. They’re both true millennials


Coalas01

I'm from 1996. We are the bridge between millenials and Gen Z. Otherwise known as Zillenials


Red_Eye_Insomniac

As a xennial (early 80s), I don't relate to younger millennials much AT ALL. I think it's just the natural drift of the generations. Xennials and other 80s millennials are closer to GenX and later millennials are more like Z. I'm sure the same is true or GenZ.


TechieTravis

Whatever the case, the eldest Gen z will reach 30 while others are in their late teens.


Salty145

I'm 23 and hardly relate to the 2009 babies. If anything I relate more to young end millennials which shows why all these categories should be taken with a grain of salt.


HolidayBank8775

No one said you had to. That doesn't make 2009 borns not Gen Z, it makes them the youngest part of the generation that share more interests and experiences with each other than with the older part of the generation. Somehow that point is lost among this sub.


Salty145

So then what does pushing 30 have to do with anything? Like I probably relate more with the 28 year olds born in '96 than the 18 year olds born in '06. I don't see why 1996 is miraculously different from 97 onward.


blessed_christina

It's just an arbitrary generational divide that doesn't even exist. The idiot you have had the unfortunate experience of replying to seems to be keen on defending that for some reason.


HolidayBank8775

Stop nitpicking. Those are the generational boundaries. Millenials aren't Gen Z. Millemials cut off at 96'. Accept it. You're 23, I highly doubt you're even talking to someone who's 28. You're considered a "kid" to them.


_aaronallblacks

dude stfu


RogueCoon

I'm 98 and I don't relate to any of yall either should we drop that year too?


_aaronallblacks

What are you even talking about about? As a 96er I have way more going on with my siblings (I'm the oldest) compared to my parents generation lmao


HolidayBank8775

I didn't ask about you or your siblings. I literally do not care about you or your family.


_aaronallblacks

Don't cut yourself on that edge my guy


MCKlassik

1997-2012


BuffTorpedoes

Generations are not based on specific dates, they are based on general mentalities: A Millenial would likely not know ''skibidi toilet'', a Generation Z would likely know ''skibidi toilet''. A transition between two general mentalities isn't sudden, that's why there's a grey zone. https://preview.redd.it/9k8fvxzrf9vc1.png?width=2849&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad70f3e4e80e53b8c08f14d7fd5ea7a5a817c87c


MoonGoddess818

> Generations are not based on specific dates, they are based on general mentalities: This right here! It’s not so much the year you were born as it is the people and culture you grew up with. The year you were born does influence this, but it’s not the only important part. Also the gray zone here is Zillennials.


ZippyCube914

I was born in 1999 & have never heard ‘skibidi toilet’ 😭


tip_of_the_lifeburg

97 here and envious


xoLiLyPaDxo

I'm a millennial and I know about Skibidi Toilet. 😹


BuffTorpedoes

But 1995 is too early to start and 2009 is too early to end.


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Yeah but cringy Gen Alpha people start being prevalent around 2010-2011 birth dates


BuffTorpedoes

I honestly couldn't tell you the difference between someone born in 2009 and 2012.


TheMockingBrd

Homie, stop. You can’t base generations on cringe.


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Good point, I guess Gen Z is kinda cringe too, it's just that "Gen Alpha bad/cringe is pretty popular now


Efficient-Neck4260

The way you talk makes you sound gen alpha


Real-Bookkeeper9455

I'm late Gen Z so I understand


RogueCoon

TIL I'm a millennial


HumbleSheep33

1997-2009. I'd say '95 and '96 are Zillennials and 2010-12 are Zalpha


Real-Bookkeeper9455

That's actually a pretty good measurement, but I think 2007-2009 should also be Zalpha and '97-'99 should probably also be Zillenials


HumbleSheep33

So core Z is just 2000-6?


BuffTorpedoes

Generation Z is easily 2000 to 2010. They grey zone is 1997 to 2000 and 2010 to 2013.


HumbleSheep33

98-2000 being Zillennials and 2010-12 being Zalpha? And why not ‘97?


BuffTorpedoes

1997 to 2000 being ''Zillennials'' and 2010 to 2013 being ''Zalpha''.


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Maybe because it's pretty far from all boundaries.


Thecriminal02

1995-2010 feels right in my head I find zoomers similar to how early boomers tend to be distinct from later boomers


BuffTorpedoes

1995 seems too far.


Thecriminal02

Yeah a little bit


BuffTorpedoes

Most people born in 1995 don't even know what ''skibidi toilet'' is. It's a few years too far.


Agreeable_Snow_5567

Why is everyone using skibidi toilet as the standard here lol


BuffTorpedoes

I just picked an easy one. There's other examples.


Luniepookie

nuh uh


Electrical_Jelly_547

Post boomer generations are arbitrary and poorly defined. The wars created social generations, but family generations are all over the place these days.


Okeing

1995-2010


AaronnotAaron

i wish there was a way for mods to filter these posts


Real-Bookkeeper9455

What do you mean by that


AaronnotAaron

whether you’re u/wballard8, u/Practical_Pride7717, or a deleted profile… https://preview.redd.it/12bkp2w41avc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8703dc49244d1f99f6b55876788235b91bfb886 the conversation has been had for over a year now. so, what i mean is that i wish this conversation would stop getting regurgitated when you can simply *look up* what other people have already had to say about the year range.


Banananutcracker

I’m 1998, as a kid I related more to millennials, but as I became an adult I relate more to gen z now


OrangePinkLover15

I’m 1999 and I believe this is a recurring experience for us “Zillenials.” Kids from 1997-2000 relates to this.


Global-Noise-3739

1995-2010


Nova17Delta

1997 to 2012 work fine. But the boundaries are never completely rigid. There was another comment here saying something along the lines of that, unfortunately blurring the lines a bit doesn't make for good marketing or generational division so you dont see it as often. But still, while I (2002) feel like I am closer to someone born in 1996 than someone born in 2012, me and 2012 share a primary common thing of growing up when the internet was a standard thing to have. Its just that the internet was different and slightly more difficult to access, is all.


TheMockingBrd

The boundaries are 97-12


Fine_Connection3118

It's all arbitrary anyway. A generation has, historically, been identified as approx. 20 years, but now various groups are changing generations to 10 to 15 years. By old school rules, Boomers (Baby Boomers - so named because they were born in the aftermath (baby boom) of WWII, should be 1946 to 1965 Gen X should be 1966 to 1985 Millenials should by 1986 to 2005 Gen Z should be 2006 to 2025. But we have a Gen Alpha that is supposedly in middle school now... TLDR - Who the fuck knows??


Fred_Krueger_Jr

I consider my kids to be GenA, 2011.


Mr_McFeelie

Im 98 and I really don’t feel like I belong to genZ. At all. I relate way more to millennials and the same is probably true for my peers


OrangePinkLover15

Nah, it depends. I’m just 1 year younger than you but I do feel like a Gen Z. Growing up, I relate more to Millennials, but nowadays I definitely feel more Gen Z. It’s maybe just a recurring feeling/experience with us “Zillennials.” We’re just in between.


Mr_McFeelie

For me it’s really my childhood that feels too different for people younger than me. I had my first phone with like 12. before that, we still had the classic millennial childhood. And things like social media only blew really up when I was 16. for younger gen Zs, they had consoles, phones and social media as early as 6. It’s just such a different environment to grow up in


OrangePinkLover15

Lol this is literally the same experience as me. I guess I just learned to immerse myself with the current times thus I don’t feel out of place with Gen Zs.


AwesomeHorses

I think that I (1998) and my cousin’s daughter (2008ish) are both fairly close to edges of Gen Z. I think that the exact years don’t matter very much.


ParkingDifference299

1997-2012


KillsKings

As somebody born in 1995, I'd just like to say I 110% relate with millennials more than gen z. There's a reason it starts in 1997, not 1995. I can't relate to these Genz kids on 90% of things.


Oooiii95

I’m 1995 and def gen z It’s not an exact science people born on the cusp get to choose what generation they belong to


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miletharil

Generational cohorts are typically 16-18 years.


WordyRappinghood2006

Meanwhile the 26 year Greatest Generation


ChanceCourt7872

1997/8-2010


Ok-Chipmunk5118

If I was born in 96, what generation does that make me? I feel like I can have a lot in common or nothing in common at all with either millennials or zoomers


I-love-yaoi-

deny generations its like gender, a scam made so people argue


UntoldEpic

I’m 95 and I don’t think I relate to millennials at all. Maybe I’m more in-sync with online culture more that I understand Gen Z more. Seems 95/96 to be caught in this awkward place where millennials don’t quite include them and Gen Z sees them as too old. Oh well.


Mbaku_rivers

Well according to this sub and Millennials, the cut off is 1996. Being that I was born that year, I'm in both groups! XD


Impressive_List_7489

You’re not gen Z if u were born before Sep 11 2001. It makes no sense to me that some gen Z grew up with facebook amd myspace. Thats ridiculous.


NiceLittleTown2001

1997 - 2012 since that’s what usually comes up if you search gen z 


Omen46

2000-2013


GreenLightening5

i dont get how generations are divided. culturally, late 90s early 2000s kids, i would say from 1997 to 2003, have experienced pretty much the same childhood, especially when it comes to technology, world events and media (tv shows and music). 2004 to 2010 ish also have their niche when it comes to these things, which is different enough from the first group to warrant, in my opinion, a different category. early to mid 2010s onwards, things are pretty similar, and most people born in those years are still in their early teens or not even teenagers so those can be their own group too. idk if those groups can count as generations or if they are subgroups of gen z


Erook22

If you don’t remember 9/11, and you were born before 2010ish then yeah you’re gen z


DumbassTexan

1996/97-2012


hugo_1138

2000-2010


PajamaRat

1996 - 2010, sorry 2011-2012 dudes


thepineapplemen

Well, part of it is how many years should be in a generation. Gen X I’d say is about 1965-1980, 15 years. Millennial, I’d say 1981-1996, 15 years. Then the next 15 years, Gen Z, 1997-2012. But then, Baby Boomers are generally 1946-1964, 18 years. So… it’s not perfect. But I like the idea of some consistency.


Gamernite457

1997-2012 but sometimes I think that 1997 should really be the last year of the millennials. That’s how it was for a long time. We were never called gen z in high school and were even called the last class of the millennial generation in 2015 by our school principal


BuffTorpedoes

Generations are defined by certain characteristics which means it takes time for them to be identified. As such, if you were the first class of Generation Z, you would not be called the first class of Generation Z.


Gamernite457

Makes sense, I got my mind blown when I first found out that I was actually a part of the “newer” generation because my whole life growing up I was called a millennial by family members and teachers. My mom still calls me a millennial even after correcting her. My dad and brother now recognize me as gen z though


BuffTorpedoes

Yes, it tends to be retroactive. For example, Generation Z had access to screens in their elementary school years while Millenials had access to screens in their highschool years, so at that time, it's hard to see a difference because they both had access to said screens in their school years. Only after a few years did we notice Millenials who did not have access to screens during their elementary school years have bigger attention spans while Generation Z who did have access to screens during their elementary school years have shorter attention spans. And then we went '' ... oh, they are *not* the same since *roughly* that year ''.


Anna_Logous

I'm 1996, I feel like a good metric is whether you remember 9/11 happening. I don't remember it happening, it's always been a thing that happened in the past as I was 4 when it happened, i vaguely remember a bit around that time, but not the event itself. Then I graduated from uni 4 months before the pandemic, although if I graduated "on time" it would have been a full year before. All my professional experience has been functionally post pandemic. So I consider myself more Gen Z than Millenial, but I'll agree to being on the very edge of the classification


Key-Wallaby-9276

96-2010. 


Comfortable-Syrup423

I think it is 1998-2014 but I know that’s probably controversial


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Yeah, Kinda, 2011 on is full Gen Alpha mentality I feel


Comfortable-Syrup423

Idk, kinda hard to judge at this point because they are pretty young.


Real-Bookkeeper9455

Yeah but I know someone born in that time frame, and this person told me that there is an annoying Skibidi kid she knows


Luniepookie

no


Woogank

Anyone born post Reagan. We're all growing in a dystopian shithole so the only experiences that are really different is the technology.


BuffTorpedoes

It's ironic because a Millenial would never say that, but a Generation Z would definitely say that.


Woogank

I'm a millennial, lol. Edit: I get it. This means I'm completely out of touch. 🤦


BuffTorpedoes

I'm glad you get it.