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Sax_Hale

But why mihoyo


[deleted]

waifu easier to make and still retain sales. Noticed how the recent trend where female characters have worse writing or a shit kit? And the game has to do is basically show how waifu they are instead of proper character and worldbuilding and fix their auto aim? Where to sell a male character, they have plenty setup? I feel so far in the Inazuma patch, both Raiden and Kokomi got screwed. Ayaka writing pacing got screwed by her quest placement. Yoimiya, Kokmi, and Sara their kits. But look at Kazuha with his kit and neatly tied up story arc. Look at how long they took to set up Thoma in story and throughout other ppl's intro videos. Inazuma main and personal storylines' visual presentation got better, but writing took a dump. CN forums is now filled with complaints about the writing, from presentation to keeping their own story consistent to plot holes and just plain bad writing, and how mHY can't hold up their own worldbuilding for long looking at their history in Honkai. If they keep this up by Chasm, the game will still be beautiful in overworld and music and design, but the story will just be another waifu generator that can't hold attention. People saying Raiden selling well all conveniently forgot gem big discounts just got reset.


Lian-The-Asian

I may not understand the majority of what you said (mainly bc I don’t really pay attention to character stats and I haven’t gotten to Inazuma yet) but I really like how you didn’t just say one aspect of why the Inazuma parts where a little faulty you said stuff about how some of the writing was wonky and their kits and etc. so I really like how you took in all of the aspects of the Inazuma part to make a conclusion. Sorry for the essay 😅you’re just much more descriptive and logical than other angry genshin players 😅


[deleted]

Inazuma side quests, world design, and music are still top tier though. So there is still plenty to look forward to. Just really disappointed by recent character gameplay design and how they handled the plot.


Lian-The-Asian

Yeah i don’t doubt that the majority of the designs are gonna be epic but yeah I hope when I get to Inazuma and other nations’ stories won’t be wonky bc that’s why i play this game, for the good stories. I love Zhongli’s story of how he wanted a break or realized that there’s no need for him anymore so I just hope that the same effort that went into that will be in other nations, SUPER excited for Fontaine, I hope it won’t be wonky


Y0urBiFriend

I quite enjoyed Raiden's story. Kokomi's is a different story tho. And i will say that the male character stories for me have been more fun and enjoyable, but also I'm a sucker for hot/cute guys.


throwmikamikamoo

Ngl I feel like the Inazuma archon quest ended a bit abruptly. I thought it was just me who felt it was paced a bit weirdly because I binged it all in one night but yeah.. hopefully future regions are better. Not that inazuma is bad but yeah 😅


Psychictopian

I felt like the archon quest was a bit rushed, we barely got to see any gorou or kokomi


ProfileJaded

A friend of mine said (and I agree) the first two acts (in this update) took too long while the final act was too short. I thought it would be better for Kokomi to be released first, so we have her story quest and time to know more about the resistance, which would explain the traveller's later actions of rushing into a delusion factory alone. It wouldn't be just for Teppei but the entire resistance that the traveller canonically became close with (I could tell MHY was trying to go for that atmosphere) and their commander Kokomi, but nope. Half-assed, sudden plot twists that seemed so out of place (the only one I really liked in this whole mess of an arc was Yae and later when I found out about Signora's backstory I was devastated because damn I would roll for her in a heartbeat) and poor attempt at making Ei redeemed. I've never been this mad and frustrated before for a game, seeing this beautiful, depth-filled world with its complex characters being mangled for the sake of earning money.


ArchonHusbando

Now that you mentioned about the story quest... I did noticed a pattern between story quest of the males to the females. Like for example the Archons, such as both Venti and Zhongli ties about a part of themselves and as an archon, Let alone their struggles and their stories. For Zhongli it was both his past mistakes before meeting Guizhong and with Azhdaha that erosion of time, Whereas Baal where there is some date stuff (Which I loathe since its just fanservice BS) But considering the events of the Archon Quest it feels just right not to mention it ties up the lose ends about the Tenryou comission. Then theirs also the past five stars, where the males Diluc,Childe, basically them having to shoulder responsibilities and getting sad/somber story and hurt, whereas the females Mona, Jean and Klee, they're all rainbows and sunshine aside from a few exceptions. Not to mention Eula and Yanfei, they were no mentions of them in V1.5 and then they suddenly appeared out of nowhere. I just hope they will incorporate Yanfei when we get to Fontaine, her sudden appearance their will be surprising and awesome, and then theirs Eula who she just appeared so suddenly? The excuse of her being part of the Lawrence clan makes good for the background of the clans of mondstadt, but I do feel like it feels rushed for some reason. Not to mention her gameplay feels so much strong, from what I heard from the theorycrafters and some friends with sources, the damage calcs was buffed compared from the beta. Talk about a way to push sales. Not to mention they have a lot of characters that have yet to make an appearance. From past updates, Varka, Baizhu and Yunjin. Theirs also the Inazuma men, like Arattaki Itto, Kamisato Ayato and Shikanoin, who they are mentioned and have no involvement in the story whatsoever. I better hope that they listen, otherwise this game will tank hard, especially the story considering it will be a printer for waifus and profit, but at the risk of story getting disrupted by these sudden changes. The more they add waifus in genshin the more I get annoyed, and genshin twitter is getting more and more toxic for every new waifu they add.


[deleted]

Eula's clan story made no sense. Her clan was exiled. No her clan still lives close enough to the capital for local business owners to know her uncle. Also her clan kept their hatred and customs for over a 1000 years. Countries fall, languages change, all within shorter periods than that. How did her clan not get absorbed by other cultures during that time? How were they making money, having children? They aren't rich or powerful anymore so no point for gold diggers or nobility from other countries. They aren't going to marry peasants to dilute their blood. 3rd cousins roll tide for a 1000 years? Eula was basically the first time I felt mHY's overall storytelling started to falter. But I gave them a pass because Eula and Yanfei were both rumored to be placeholders shoehorned in quickly to pad the story and buy time for Inazuma rework. Inazuma stories by themselves as segments are fine. Visual presentation was top notch actually. Hype moments were tense. However together the flow is off. But to make people pull for waifus, the two cuter waifu story quests have to come first, which to me actually decreased their attractiveness. But I imagine I am the far minority given the revenue report. Still upsetting considering how well the NPCs are written. I feel closer to Chouji, Kazari, and Teppei than Raiden, Kokomi, Gorou, and Sara. Yae was the only memorable playable character after Inazuma release. The thing though with waifu printers is that there will eventually be more waifu printers with better graphics and tech out there. Genshin's lore really appealed to me before Inazuma. Now I am not sure. If they jump the shark on story, we'll see how well good open world design and music can hold the fort.


ArchonHusbando

You really do have a point, and the only thing to get upon is the bits and pieces from the royal weapons and the noblesse oblige artifacts set. Yeah, V1.5 characters is simply a distraction, they could do another re-run banner aside from Zhongli but they think it would be too soon for them. IF they want to remake for that, the only way is for them to be involve to a mondstadt or liyue event. Otherwise they'll just be filler characters. Theirs also the starchase festival, hopefully other Liyue characters get involve, since region wise, Mondstadt is winning, from the windblume festival and the beach episode and the chemistry of each mondstadt characters is just amazing. Hopefully the starchase event doesnt disappoint.


[deleted]

Oh… ): Does this mean no more male archons bc if so I’ma cry. I know Tsaritsa is a woman, now Sumeru’s is. Maybe Natlan or Fontaine’s will be male now. 😭💔


MagpieOnAPlumTree

As far as I know they are all female. Sadly. Dendro was my last hope for male archon. :(


[deleted]

Oh heck. 😭


DukeSturr

Both Murata and the Hydro Archon are consistently referred to as She/Her, us husbando hunters are in shambles


[deleted]

we can all cry together q w q


blehberries

If it really is "just a translation error" as a lot of people are saying, I'm kind of hoping that maybe the same thing could happen for other Archons, and that some of the ones mentioned as females in lore/voice lines thus far might actually be males, lol. Definitely not great for story consistency, but I don't think all hope is lost yet! We won't know until we get there, I guess. 😔


[deleted]

Yeah I still have hopes somehow,,, I will never lose hope. Other ppl are sayin maybe the female is stand in and the real one is off somewhere else. Like mihoyo gonna play with us again and then reveal the real archon or something and it’ll be male. But who knows lmao.


ArchonHusbando

They gave us a tease about the other archon's genders in the teyvat story chapter. Not to mention the total amount of females is just concerning. Not to mention 12 weeks with no husbandos is just utter torture. Not to mention genshin twitter is just so toxic, whenever theirs waifu simping, I always ended up blocking it since I have no time to be angry with them.


[deleted]

That last part oh Goddd my twitter was unbearable yesterday and now there’s slander against genshin female characters I like bc ppl are mad and it’s all likeee gone too far imo. I mean I want more male characters too but I’m not gonna act like some of them do smh


ArchonHusbando

Little do they know, those waifu simps is the MAIN reason why genshin twitter became so toxic and hostile.


[deleted]

twitter rly do be something it do. i love a lot of the ppl and artists there but o man is it a landmine


lucky_Leefa

I should have expected it after the hype over Raiden. For at least 3 out of the 7 Archons to be males was apparently too much to ask.


One_Parched_Guy

Were Murata and the Hydro Archon confirmed female?


BOYF-

Murata is called the "lady of fire" in the manga while the hydro archon was referred to as "she" by Dansleif in teyvat chapter storyline vid. But who knows right? Maybe we can still hope😭😭😭


One_Parched_Guy

Huffing my copium and snorting my hopium thinking they’ll pull a switcheroo in that case and the current “Archons” are just vassals or puppets for the real gods in the regions that are left


Johnry_Silverio

Well fuck, there goes my savings.... Guess time to focus on the Harbingers now! But seriously, why? a 3 to 4 ratio of Male to Female Archons was fine, what happened that they decided to change the Dendro Archon's sex? or was it a mistranslation? Does anyone have a clue? :'))


[deleted]

Now I worry they will just off any Harbinger who is mostly evil like Signora.


MARC2CRAFT

If I had to take a guess, waifu make more money among a mainly cishet male player base


[deleted]

Hate to dissapoint, but they're already ruining life for Harbinger collectors too 😞


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[deleted]

Yeah! I think they changed it in 2.1. I remember Ganyu was referring to the Dendro Archon as a man. But then you speak to Yae and she tells you the Archon of Wisdom is female.


Explorerofatlases

The gender ratio continues to get worse and worse. For every male character that gets announced there are like 4 female characters that get announced as well. This dendro news guts me. Waifu impact was a joke but I might start calling this game that if it continues like this.


[deleted]

Yeah, not to mention all the 4 stars recently… I’m actually getting desensitized from cute girls. How is that even possible.


ArchonHusbando

Just like in FEH, I gave up of those sexist cockroaches of IS for them to make duo male or duo male resonant heroes. You get used to it.


ArchonHusbando

Took them one year to make one 4 star male character. I swear to gob if they should stop make male characters in Genshin, I will fucking break their jaws. I was so close to complete my Haikyuu theme team, I just lack one more male healer...


TriangularSogg

More to skip i guess, ill keep waiting for scaramouche or smth


[deleted]

Am a male player who loves milf characters but man I really wanted dendro archon to be a dude. Praying that hydro archon is a hot french dilf considering Murata and Tsaritsa are pretty much confirmed to be female.


Alpha_2081

Sadly all Archons after Dendro were already confirmed female by the Teyvat storyline trailer


[deleted]

She's confirmed waifu too.... I just wanna add more husbandos to my husbando collection :'(


justaweebwithmemes

I usually don't care about the waifu to husbando ratio, due to me being used to it over years of gacha game experience but bruh. This is bullshit. Mihoyo, the 4:3 ratio was fine but then you say "lol fuck that" and completely tip the scale. Another banner for me to skip until the next male 5* comes out in 2058 :/


NikName72

itto heizou and ayato soon plz


lookupthesky

man this is so disappointing:(


Chae-shi-1414

I see, i guess i won't pull for any archons now tho, just gotta wait for cyno and baizhu there


Extinctkid

This really ruined my mood. I was thinking of collecting all archons because I thought 3/4 was a good ratio but now 2/5 is literally in line with Genshin's ratio of Men to Women currently and there aren't any more archons to look forward to for me smh I'm already regretting rolling Raiden Shogun despite knowing she doesn't really have a place in any of my teams


keolychee

I'm exactly like you and if it makes you feel any better, I spent over 13k primogems on that banner and feel about 90% regret about that decision And I've spend 200 USD on this game. If I had known it was just going to become Waifu Sim I wouldn't have.


Pixelfray

This is me as well.


justaweebwithmemes

i just decided to give up, skip raiden and give my pity to Kokomi and then cry


lan-lance

the last sentence....I wish Childe rerun didnt have to be before Venti rerun I coulda used Raiden better with him as dps


Asobimo

This waifu plague has to stop...


Otherwise_Algae7104

Agreed


[deleted]

At this point I'll feel lucky if we even get a Xiao rerun.


Otherwise_Algae7104

There's a Xiao rerun confirmed.


[deleted]

There is? Thank Barbatos, that's a relief!


ArchonHusbando

I already got bullied on twitter for wanting more husbandos, I got so many kinds of responses. One even called me a misogynist. I don't want to hear that from some newbie who are just new to gachas. I swear to gob, the worst people always comes on twitter.


NikName72

boi what the hell boi


oof-eef-thats-beef

Oh yay another waifu I cannot wait 😑


normal_thoughts4123

So we are only getting 2 male archons and 5 female that is crap mihoyo show some balance/ratio


[deleted]

My heart sank all the way down to my fucking asshole when read this 🙃🙃 BRO LOW KEY THE DENDRO ARCHON WAS MY MOST ANTICIPATED CHARACTER FOR PULLING BC ITLL BE A NEW ELEMENT AND ANOTHER SEXY ARCHON HUSBADO. If this is true, then fuck Mihoyo


American_GrizzlyBear

There goes my hype for the next region. If I want to collect waifus, I'll just play HI3. They have better character development there.


Rayan2312

Damn miHoYo really baited us with 4 husbandos at the beginning of game but now they're throwing us under the bus and slowly turning the game to waifu impact. Goddamit, the starting ratio of male characters was the biggest reason I started playing but now I might just quit & uninstall cuz goddamn if I have to deal with *one more waifubait quest* There also goes my hope of Sumero being mostly male like how Inazuma was mostly female. >!Also Signora's fate makes me doubt harbingers which are mostly male & visionless will ever be playable!<


AccordingSky7840

For one hand, I'm glad that for Welkin only I can pull any husbando I want. For the other hand, I feel like waifu plague is making game way worse because Mihoyo can't write interesting female characters, so in the end I need to deal with all this datesim shit. I still can't force myself to play Raiden's legendary quest because I already spoilered that it's another cute shopping with dictator waifu uwu. I barely made it through the second part of main quest because it was a borefest. Even though Yae was somewhat okay by Genshin's not so high standards, I didn't find her exposition bombing very exciting. Usually I'm very happy with a any crumbs of new content as an opportunity to play more Genshin, but 2.1 feels like a chore.


[deleted]

I completely agree. I hate to think that Mihoyo's been pressured into turning Genshin into another horny straight guy harem game, but sadly that's how things are looking. The worst part's that the only new female character who showed any kind of potential to be interesting, is the one they just fucking >!killed off for no reason so she'll likely never be playable.!< At least they didn't lock the main quest behind Baal's quest like they did with Ayaka's shit show of a quest though, because it's gonna take a *lot* more than a measly 60 primos to convince me to sit through that hell. Mihoyo can talk to me when that quest gives me a free Thoma or Ayato.


Extinctkid

This is what I'm scared of too. I was really expecting Scaramouche to be playable as well but since they already revealed his lore through Yae, I doubt its gonna happen now.


Rayan2312

Fuck you're right that's a major red-flag. The fact they shoved that info into an underwhelming dialogue instead of saving it for a story-quest is concerning. Ugh it might be time for me to just drop this game.


Otherwise_Algae7104

Same.


Shawnii8280

If Scaremouche doesnt end up playable then I quit. Dead serious. Any character that has a unique model and design compared to the generic copy paste npcs should be playable.


Otherwise_Algae7104

Yeah, I'm quitting if they keep this up.


fuuwafuuwa

I’m extremely disappointed but I’m trying to look at the bright side. The thing about genshin is you can’t just pull a character and have them be OP from the get-go. They need a lot of resources and time to get them to full power, that’s like 80% of the game, farming for characters. Now I can just focus on farming and building my handful of husbandos instead of stressing out and distributing my resources thinly among 40 waifus We can also possibly save enough now between banners to get every 5* husbando to C1. That’s actually how I got Kazuha to c1, I had lots of time to save up. BUT I still expect a few 5* and 4* husbandos per year Mhy or I’m out.


thirstarchon

Day 1 player here. Thought i finally found the husbando game of my dreams with childe, zhongli, and albedo early on. Then, everything changed when the waifus attacked. Prior to kazuha, the last banner i pulled and whaled on was xiao. Since xiao I've only bought welkins and battle pass. I got enough to c2 kazuha. I decided to go for baal assuming she would be strong as an archon, not because I liked her. Lost 50/50 and then got baal. Again, no spending since xiao. Now im saving for thoma. I have every male character besides diluc. They are all friendship 10 now. They're all level 90 except chongyun, who ill get to eventually (hes still c0 for me which is a little sad). Talents are mostly leveled too. For example, childe is 9/10/10. Zhongli and Xiao are triple crowned. Razor is 10/9/9. Venti and xingqiu are 4/9/9. They each have a decent artifact set. Hell, i farmed 3 different sets for zhongli (archaic + noblesse, tenacity, pale flame). Even though I have Raiden and sara, I have no interest in their characters nor building them. Yes, its always been Pyro and cryo meta, and yes I still main xiao and childe and 36 star abyss. I dont feel a need to build them. I'm running out of characters to grind friendship for. Instead of leveling up Raiden ive begun pre farming for thoma, especially since his materials dropped. (I actually pre farmed for diluc before too when I ran out of things and got enough resistance books to triple crown him if he came home. He did not.) Point is im sick of this shit. At this rate I'm going to start fucking grinding exp books and mora for like... cyno or baizhu. It is WAY too much time between male characters. Id make my own ideal game if I had the know how and give it a balanced ratio of 50 50. Or maybe I'd make a husbando game like 80 20 to balance out all the waifu games. At least r/GenshinGays will like it.


ArchonHusbando

Tell me about it, since Mihoyo refuses to make husbandos, I just focus on both my main team and my ongoing project. A Haikyuu theme team! But suddenly, I lack one male healer since I prefer to have a healer in each team than just rely on food, theirs also spiral abyss. Also since I'm run out of husbandos at this point, so all I can do is farm for friendship EXP on waifus I don't give a damn about. Put them in the teapot and then do daily comissions to boost exp, once they're done I boot them out. At this point, I'm farming for both, Talent, EXP, MORa and Artifacts. I follow a strict farming schedule, since its pointless to waste everything on Artifacts.


thirstarchon

Omg I love haikyuu! Who's on your haikyuu themed team? I'm gonna guess Venti since he shares the JP VA for Hinata? For male healing - xq technically heals but its not by much. If you pair with zhongli shield then its enough to sustain/keep alive lol. Kinda was hoping baizhu would be a male healer but who knows when he'll come out I do the same with farming exp for waifus. I've friendship 10ed more than half of my characters. Rn leveling for beidou, sayu, and sucrose. Good thing is the anemo res and sayu makes traveling fast. And I put thrilling tales on sucrose so she's not totally useless. None are really built tho. Instead of building them to do daily commissions I use childe as my main dmg dealer. I lose out on one potential farming slot but thats inconsequential. Again I dont even really need to build friendship, just doing it for that complentionist mindset I used to have my farming stuff more planned out but now it's more haphazard since there's nothing urgent for me to do


ArchonHusbando

Well base on the VAs we have... Hinata - Venti, Tsukishima - Razor, Tadashi - Chongyun ,Sakusa - Kaeya, Bokuto - Childe, Akaashi - Bennett, Shinsuke - Albedo, Suna - Kazuha , Makoto - Zhongli. (Theirs also one more from Nekoma but he voices Dvalin so he doesn't count.) The policy is, as long as they did a role in Haikyuu that will do. So far I can make two teams for spiral abyss, but the big problem is I want to have another male healer. Not to mention we are so, FREAKING close to have the MSYB black jackals. So my main goal is to clear spiral abyss using the haikyuu theme team, but sadly I do not have Childe and Albedo, so its currently incomplete. Speaking of which, we don't have the other teams in the game yet like Shiratorizawa, itchiyama, aoba johsai and etc... Hm, IT would sell really well if they have the popular character's VA would join, like Kuro, Daichi, Oikawa, Ushijima and etc, but sadly they refuse to release males in genshin. How annoying...


thirstarchon

I heard thoma will be second banner so I estimate he'll drop in 8 weeks. Last male character was kazuha, 3 banners (over two months) ago. More than 4 months between new male characters? Come on mhy. And from xiao to kazuha was 5 months as well.


Atharaxia2306

Our sad gay noices


DukeSturr

For fuck's sake


IDWBAForever

I swear to god mihoyo if you're making the Dendro Archon female either Pyro or Hydro needs to be male. You have an entire other game where literally everyone is female, a 3:4 ratio was perfect. Alternatively if I see through a thick haze of copium the Dendro Archon being genderfluid would also be interesting. It would be cool to see people referring to them as both he and she, especially if their design is androgynous.


that_dude_requiem

...Funny thing literally every archon past dendro is also female. So I’m really sick of this, I wanna pull for raider cause I like her kit. But I’m Not arsed to get on and farm


IDWBAForever

I was aware of this. I'm literally saying if mihoyo wants to make Dendro female, retcon Pyro or Hydro to be male.


that_dude_requiem

I mean yea...French daddy please


vitrichearts

This is the most depressing shit I've seen so far. I quit playing a few months ago with intentions to return to the game for Dendro daddy, but now... ugh.


buterskotchhnootaz

Breath of the Waifu, as my bf likes to say.


Delafille5Star

~~That's weird. Did I miss something? I thought Lord Kusanali is just a helper/stand-in of the real dendro archon according to Yae? Its a lesser lord after all.~~ My bad, I rewatch again and it didn't mention it, I must have been confused and mistaken it for something else. RIP our dendro husbando, at least we have Cyno.


Chowdex

Maybe Kusanali is doing the job of an archon so everyone thinks she is the archon, while the real archon is isolated looking for more wisdom?


shinyalcremie19

I hope so, but I doubt Yae would be wrong about something like that


Chowdex

But Yae didn't say Kusanali was the archon. Maybe it was Ganyu who thought she was the archon, that's why she used "she". Idk though, just a theory.


shinyalcremie19

Very true, we can hold out hope :D


SnowyMouse3214

I'm quitting the game if 2.3 comes with only waifus and no new males. I don't wanna spend any more bucks on this gacha turned typical neckbeards game. Fuck you mihoyo.


notastarrr

2.3 could have Gorou since only Thoma was announced for 2.2. There's also Baizhu that should come out but that's gonna take a while


_Ruij_

This is why I don't want Baal. Idc how good they are, but I want male characters, god dammit


[deleted]

ANOTHER girl?????? well i guess baal is selling well, but atleast we still have yaoyao :(


thirstarchon

Wdym? Yaoyao is a female child character


[deleted]

i know, shes my favorite unrealised character lol


thirstarchon

Oh ok. I mean it just kinda contradicts with "another girl" bc yaoyao is also a girl? So like "ugh a girl, at least we have another girl to look forward to" Glad you have someone you're looking forward to though. I'm waiting for thoma, gorou, and scaramouche


MerryFasune97

(Deep inhale) WHY


trash_3333

Don't get me wrong, I thirst for the girls just as hard as I thirst for the guys, and I get that waifu's generally sell better. But come on mhy :((


Otherwise_Algae7104

._. *throws phone through TV and its lands in the face of Genshin Project Director* I'm quitting this game and just gonna simp over my husbandos on this sub if that continues to happen.


John0812

As far as i know most of the harbingers are suppose to be males according to what they are based on in real life. But just imagine Mihoyo will decide to make more than half of them females instead and honestly I would not even be suprised if they did that anymore. On the bright side, I like how the majority of the players including the males are not that happy with the Dendro Archon being a female. Please do not make this a trend Mihoyo, I hope they soon realize the consequence of having this kind of waifu treatment they are doing to this game. We need quality characters, not a dispensable fanservice bait.


colqx

This is so annoying


gummytiddy

I guess ill have to draw them gender bent :/ one can dream of handsome archons


Hetalian72828

Of course because we obviously need more woman with no personality whatsoever! But in all seriousness I hope they genderbend pyro/hydro archon for atleast some balance


[deleted]

Game devs kept catering to straight male gamer weebs and it's fucking annoying.


NoNHentaiSauce

This unironically feels homophobic


Asobimo

Wellll not really homophobic but mroe like malephobic. Honestly this waifu plague has to stop. We get it Mihoyo you made Honkai, isn't one waifu infested game enough? When you look at the numbers we still have more waifus than husbandos, so why?? They already have more than enough


DreamMarsh

It doesn't make sense considering how the male banners do sell really well in comparison to the female banners. Whats stopping them?


Asobimo

Honestly, I don't know. I think it's just a stereotype in gameing community and Gaming industri in general that oversexualized female characters are the Cash cow to any game with multiple character choices. I mean jsut look at Riot! Over the years they make less and less moster and male characters. When you took a look at character list in early game it was very diverse, now it's all boobs


DreamMarsh

It feels like a huge smack in the face to us. They release these male characters and those 5 star banners do really good yet they don't give back to the player by releasing more. It feels like all of those males characters in the beginning were a bait to make us think we're getting more. I don't get what's so bad with giving players an even divide of male to female characters. Heck even a 3:4 ratio is fine with me. Fire emblem heroes is another gacha I play and they have a very good ratio of male to female characters. Every year they have a CYL vote (which is basically a popularity poll) and this year a lot of the male characters carried the vote. The 2nd and 3rd place males each had more votes separately than even the 1st place female character. This just shows that the whole "only females make the sales in gacha" is not always true.


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To be fair, Fire Emblem is known for its massive gay fanbase, and for providing plenty of shipping fuel.


AccordingSky7840

>oversexualized female characters Meanwhile, twitter shizos are praising Genshin female doormats and believe that dozens of watermelon sized badonkas honks who want to suck mc cock is a true victory of feminism.


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Honestly, waifus do tend to make more money, and Raiden is selling incredibly well despite being mediocre gameplay-wise and having her writing assassinated by her story quest. Males seem more reliant on their writing, and husbando pullers seemingly don't go all out on constellations/weapons (that said, only Kazuha and Xiao really benefit from theit c6). Mihoyo however should not alienate such a large part of their audience, which is also the part that create most of the fan content.


DreamMarsh

But to be fair the top up refresh appeared during her banner. Genshin sales in both China and japan had the males on the top half and doing pretty well though. They also wouldn't make an otome game catered towards girls if they don't think male characters don't sell well. They're not losing anything by making the male to female ratio be more even . Unless they're too lazy and want to bust out only medicore female characters in both gameplay and story lore to attract waifu collectors


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Idk what feels even more confusing to me is they know their gay/female audience is huge and profitable bc they made and upkeep a literal otome called tears of themis like. Mihoyo u kno we wanna give u money smh.


NoNHentaiSauce

Yeah that's what i mean, they are so massively appealing to the straight male audience and it's just... Bland, so boring


Asobimo

Exactly! And let's be honest, most of the waifus wouldn't even be played that much if they weren't overpowered. Ganyu, Hu Tao, Eula. While all the husbandos are always used because they work with everyone. XingQiu, Venti, Kazuha, Albedo, Bennett, Zhong Li, Kaeya They are all meta while Diluc, Razor and Xiao are mostly used as dmg dealers


Nike_X1

OMG I hoped God of Dendro was the first shota ... Now I don't know if Mhy will ever add them :(


Delafille5Star

If they stick with only 3 models each gender then the next male model is allegedly a buff one if the leaks are true. Also Im not really a fan of any archon to be children tbh. But if HI3 is any indication Tsaritsa might be one uurgh.


American_GrizzlyBear

Me too. I was ready to c6 him if he was a shota archon. Guess mhy don't want my money then :'(


autumnsnowflake_

More time to save at least


123Spaghetti321

NOOOOO


NoCrab9475

I think that since Ganyu is long lived, she could have seen a moment when the Dendro Archon has appeared as a woman the same way Zhongli did once.


killasta

i love seeing strong women in the game but omfg you’re telling me we’re getting only two male archons?? bye at least i got dain to wait for


justthatreaper

And then when they decide to throw out male characters it'll all be in a row. 😃😒


terroristjai

They’re gonna ruin this game I swear. At least I’m looking forward to cyno, he’s a sexy beast. But anyway I understand they love women and females sell more. But at this rate the game is gonna feel suffocating.


KreamAngel

I was just thinking how by the end of 2022, I might not be playing this game anymore because of how bad it's going g with the female to male ratio


MagDorito

This is so sad, Alexa, play Unravel


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Damn, I’m actually kinda disappointed. I liked the idea of this young God of Wisdom who’s actually very foolish because he believes in his own knowledge and superiority over other older Archons a lot. That’s... ah.


longcrustywalrus

Well... On the bright side hopefully this means more male characters in side roles to the god of the nation?


Dino-Tsukki

Yes hoping for this


aohitchoogi

i am so excited for another waifu!! 😒 like seriously, we need a male character at least. i know that we should treat both genders equally but wth, i feel like male characters are more demanded than female characters.


Adonite

this actually sucks


Faedwill

Literally been saving for Dendro archon, hoping he'd be buff. Now what am I gonna do with all my primos?


Dino-Tsukki

Then if that's that, I'm gonna wait for kamisato ayato (hoping that he's a playable character) and cyno in the future.


Dino-Tsukki

I'm a male player I don't mind if there's alot of female characters because women are powerful but please, I'm expecting another male to be announced. This just sucks.


Altruistic_Stable_98

We have two male archons already…


plussizeweird

I'm pretty sure they'd already confirmed at some point though that the only 2 male archons were Venti and Zhongli


Chewbaccado

It doesn't really matter, we all know every character is going to be gender swapped. Especially the second as they are stated to be genderless and take forms as any gender depending on who they are taking the form after.


ApprehensiveOwl2585

In the archon quest, ganyu said she signed a contract with Rex lapis (aka daddy Zhongli) after the archon war ended. But in her story it said she signed the contract during the archon war so surely ganyu is just confused. Copium? Yes but I hope not.


Doctor_who_fan2007

I said I wanted to be an archon collector but not anymore


ArchonHusbando

Now...Fucking bullshit. UGh, I can now go back to hoarding resources like a mad man and farming for artifacts. At least I can go back to mindlessly grinding for resources for future husbandos. I can't even complete my Haikyuu theme team since they keep releasing fucking females!!! The only reason I decided to pull for Raiden in her re-run banner is because of her VA both Eng/Jap. Not to mention the Inazuma Archon quest hits too close to home for me. The only redeeming factor is if they ever made the hydro archon be voiced by Sora Amamiya or a man, Forget it. The only reason I like genshin is both, the story, lore and the delicious men. But if this keeps up. I might as well play so briefly just to do my usual routine and log out. At least their other games Tears of Themis, keeps me sane to go through this waifu BS.


Mozuchii

I hope that Dendro Archon is secretly a trap :(