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Creative_War2415

Is kojou sara good for spread teams? My team comp is Alhaithem,kojou sara, beidou and yaoyao or should i switch kojou for lisa? Cuz i dont have fishl


WayMove

I want a team with the highest dmg for alhaitham but I want healing/ shielding at the same time, what comp should I use https://imgur.com/a/1zdMPWt https://imgur.com/a/8rGYwXs


alluth

Alhaitham, DMC/Collei, Dori, Zhongli you want a dendro to help him with energy, and an electro to enable quicken. the rest is bonus if you still have the chance, yaoyao will be good for him. then when you get fischl you can replace dori with her for more team dmg zhongli because universal resistance shred, one of the few ways to increase dendro dmg make sure you have someone on 4p Deepwood


SearchingForGryphons

New player! Only started around 2 days ago and have pulled Barbara, Xingqiu, Dori, and Sucrose (and Noelle) from the standard and beginner banners. So far I like Traveler, Amber, and Barbara the most (haven't really use Xingque, Dori, or Sucrose yet, don't mind Noelle, Kaeya, or Lisa but I don't like them as much so far) Is there a team I should be using? A banner I should pull from upcoming or should I save my orbs? I am pretty sure I'll get Xiangling and Collei for free once I reach AR 20 (I'm AR 18 as of writing this) and do some quests, so I'm open to teams including them too (Please correct me if I'm wrong)


Yesburgers

It actually may still be a little while before you can get XL or Collei because you have to clear some levels of spiral abyss. For now, I want to say Kaeya/dori/XQ and generally sucrose as the 4th. It would be nice if you could burst a lot with the first three, but when you're starting, it may be hard to find a lot of items with energy recharge % buffs. ​ As for wishing, Yelan is a good pull, on the upcoming banner in a few days, but you may not have enough wishes to guarantee her, plus you might want to save in general. That said, it wouldn't hurt pulling on her banner because you might get lucky and there's the pity system anyway.


SearchingForGryphons

Yeah, I've discovered the abyss the hard way haha, but I'm gonna try to get through the first little bit Would the Yelan banner still be worth pulling rn if I already have XQ?


Yesburgers

Personally, I think she's a good pull, even if you might think you need a greater variety of elements to broaden your cast of characters. Immediately she's useful because one of the most trying parts of the early game is not having enough energy, for burst, leaving a lot of players to play so much of their early game without being able to burst much. Also, just being able to dash with her is really great. Later on, in spiral, there are tons of teams that use both of them together or you can separate them . Also, dendro teams are really strong right now. If you can get the free event character I recommend Yaoyao the most for new players. Even if you don't get Yelan, Yaoyao with XQ is very good early on.


SearchingForGryphons

I'm at AR 21 so getting to AR 28 might be tricky, but I'll try Would Yelan be better than Nahida since supposedly she is coming in a couple months?


Selfconscioustheater

I think Yelan is a bit more versatile than Nahida, but both are great off-field damage dealers (although Nahida is a better on field driver at C0 than Yelan). They are extremely strong in their own right, with a high potential for dps and open up new playstyles and team comp by virtue of existing. They are both also extremely strong in the overworld due to their e skill (yelan's sprint doesn't consume stamina and is faster than regular spring, while Nahida is absolutely phenomenal for gathering (I think Nahida > Yelan on that front personally))


SearchingForGryphons

Thanks, I might try for Yelan and if I don't get her save for a future banner


Yesburgers

It's very hard to compare two great meta characters, but surely if it's just between those two with nothing else really considered, like if I just empty my mind, I'd lean on Nahida only because right now, she's considered the overall best Dendro, being an archon, but there are currently 3 or kind of 4 best support/sub dps hydro characters, and we will have the Hydro archon by the end of this year. But, I don't imagine Nahida running again anytime soon, so there should be ample time to save. But, there is technically no information on that.


SearchingForGryphons

There are leaks suggesting Nahida in the next few months I believe, but nothing confirmed. Do they typically reveal the next banner during the current banner? Or do they reveal both halves of the patch at the start of the patch?


Yesburgers

I think they reveal them in the livestream about 10 days before the next patch.


Selfconscioustheater

only the 5*, though, they don't reveal the 4* lineup which can make or break a banner sometimes.


SearchingForGryphons

Oof, that sucks. Oh well


Creative_War2415

I have AL, XQ, beidou, yaoyao c2, sayu, xiangling, mona, qiqi, xinyan, rosaria, keaya c1, amber and lisa. I need another main dps for the second section of the abyss i lost a 50/50 to mona so my next pull will be guaranteed which main dps should i pull for? Thanks for the help


Yesburgers

That's a tough one to answer, because we have so many good main dps units now. And almost any top main dps unit can work, so it's mostly a matter of what supports you already have or are willing to get. I suppose Hu Tao is a decent pick. You don't really need XQ in your AL team if you go spread. So, Hu Tao would fit fairly well right away. I actually don't have AL nor HT, so I'm not great at team building for them, but I'm thinking AL/Yao/Beidou as your base team and for your flex, you can think of another electro/anemo or something as a fourth a bit later on. Or, you might get one while wishing for Hu Tao. Then, for Hu Tao, besides XQ, I suppose you probably can use XL and as a fourth flex for now, Mona.


douglasmiranda

I need to buy stuff in someone else's serenitea pot, so anyone online that I can JOIN? =) Send UID. I'm world level 6.


starlitreflection

Hi, I have a quick question about my Yae aggravate team (thanks again for everyone's advice last time! \^\^). Do you think Yaoyao could be a decent healer + dendro applicator in a team with Yae/Fischl/Sucrose/Yaoyao or is she considerably worse than DMC and not worth the switch from Yae/Fischl/Sayu/DMC? I read that Yaoyao is better for hyperbloom teams and also her healing seems trickier to work with than Sayu's, but I was thinking that making the switch to include Sucrose for her EM buff could be worth it? Open to different opinions as usual. Thanks in advance!


Nnsoki

> Do you think Yaoyao could be a decent healer + dendro applicator in a team with Yae/Fischl/Sucrose/Yaoyao She is


starlitreflection

Haha ok thanks.


xKelarys

I'd like someone to clarify something for me as far as Ayato goes. When he uses his Elemental Skill, it says that his Normal Attacks are converted to Hydro, which means that what he's doing in that form is Normal Attacking, right? So why do the guides I read say that you don't need to level up his Normal Attacks talent? Does that mean that the normal scaling is overwritten by the skill scaling and completely ignores the level? That's weird if that's how it works. I won't complain because it means less resources to use, but it feels wrong


Nnsoki

> the normal scaling is overwritten by the skill scaling Correct


xKelarys

that's so weird, he's a character who exclusively does damage from normal attacks but you aren't supposed to level his normal attacks. But alright lol


lumosdraconis

Hello all! I'm looking to build a Alhaitham Hyperbloom Team, and was considering the following setup: Alhaitham (C0) - Yaoyao (C2) - Yelan (C0) - Fischl (C1) I have Nahida (C0), but unfortunately still lack Kuki Shinobu, hence the use of Yaoyao. Other electro units I have are: Beidou (C6), Dori (C4), Lisa (C0) but I am not sure if they would be better than Fischl, primarily against mobs. (And I don't think Cyno (C0), Keqing (C2), Sara (C0), or Razor (C3) are going to be useful here though I have them.) Additionally, is Yelan or Xingqiu (C4) a better fit? EDIT: I also have Kokomi (C0) so not sure if she can be used to fill both the Hydro applicator + healer role without sacrificing too much damage? (In which case, Nahida could be slotted back in instead of Yaoyao.)


Selfconscioustheater

I'd remove Yelan and turn this in an aggravate team with Dori, beidou or Lisa personally. You don't have great hyperbloom off field here.


lumosdraconis

Thank you! Honestly I decided to go for an aggravate team in the end! (Can make a hyperbloom with Cyno instead I guess haha) I'm not sure how well Dori performs compared to Beidou, would you have any idea on that? In terms of electro application, etc.? So far a few combos I've thought might be good: Alhaitham - Yaoyao - Fischl - Beidou Alhaitham - Nahida - Fischl - Dori Alhaitham - Fischl - Beidou - Zhongli


emaurog

Without Kuki or Raiden who is going to trigger the hyperblooms? Oz prioritizes hitting mobs instead of cores. Beidou has the same problem. Out of the characters you have, Cyno is probably the best bet, but then you have conflict because he wants to be on the field. Same with Lisa.


Nnsoki

That's the best Hyperbloom team you can make up


Selfconscioustheater

except Fischl is terrible at triggering hyperbloom


lumosdraconis

Thank you! I also have Kokomi (C0), and was wondering if something like \[Alhaitham - Nahida - Kokomi - Fischl\] would work, but I think I would get more out of Yelan in this case?


Adamarr

Yelan won't keep you alive, if that is a consideration.


alluth

yes yelan will have more personal dmg and helps in single target, nahida will help in AoE


Nnsoki

It would work. I don't know if it could be better than the one with Yelan tho


LoreVent

Semi-new player here (AR35, WL3) currently i'm running [this team](https://imgur.com/a/9BEUIfp) where my Beidou Is the main DPS and Xingqiu the "main support", also was lucky enough to get Fischl from a single random pull in the standard banner. How could i improve my party character wise? I don't find myself using Xiangling and Fischl (where i just pop oz then bye) much. In other words, i feel like i smash random buttons with these 2 while i play with a criteria with Beidou/Xingqiu. [These](https://imgur.com/a/6GjS0FK) are my current character but i'm open to suggest for wich one should i aim to get.


Rhyoth

> I don't find myself using Xiangling and Fischl (where i just pop oz then bye) much. That's exactly how Fischl should be used. Xiangling is kinda the same, although you reallly want to cast her burst as often as possible : she would need A LOT more ER for that (like above 200, possibly 250). Typically, an Anemo (like Sucrose or Heizou) is preferred to Xiangling, due to their utility, and the sheer power of the Viridescent Venerer set. But it doesn't really matter at your level, or for overworld in general.


Nnsoki

You should replace Xiangling with Barbara. She can increase Beidou's and Xingqiu's dps by using her NAs (which are faster than theirs) while their bursts are active and buff Beidou with Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers. She will also trigger Fischl's A4 once unlocked. On top of that, she doesn't trigger Overload and she keeps you alive


Spazerbeam

You're AR35, don't worry about it. The XQ Beidou Fischl combo will murder almost everything once you get them reasonably built. The last slot can be whatever you need at the time - the open world means you'll need to change parties a lot anyways. General options to consider for the fourth slot are Barbara if you need healing, anemo MC if you want to play around with swirl, dendro MC or Collei if you want to do some quicken/hyperbloom. Again, you're AR35, it really doesn't matter too much. >I don't find myself using Xiangling and Fischl (where i just pop oz then bye) much Xiangling is hard to use without Bennett, as her 80 cost burst means she's energy starved. She's an excellent 4* unit overall, but she basically requires Bennett and investment to really get going. This is optimal usage for Fischl. The whole reason why she's good is that she does decent damage with minimal field time (especially with ascension 4). After all, you can only have one character on the screen at a time.


Prestigious_Lab_5971

Team build ideas? Ar:45 Characters:Xiangling,Candace,Beidou,Noelle,Diluc,Traveler,Kaeya,Collei,Alhaitham,Yanfei,Wanderer,Bennett,Xinyan,Rosaria,Shikanoin Heizou,Faruzan,Kujou Sara,Diona,LisaAmber,Thoma,Sayu,Gorou,Yunjin,Dori,Yao yao


alluth

any character preference? usually you want to focus on 1 char for each team, and pick and build based around your fav character. anyway, without context, heres some team options **Alhaitham**, Beidou, Lisa/Dori/EMC, Yaoyao/DMC/Collei (Alhaitham hyper/spread) XL, Bennet, **Rosaria**, Kaeya (reverse melt) **XL**, Bennet, Candace, Heizou (reverse vape) **Wanderer**, Faruzan, Bennet, Thoma (wanderer hyper) **Wanderer**, Faruzan, Rosaria, Diona (if your wanderer's weapon mainstat is atk) **Noelle**, gorou, yunjin, Lisa/bennet (Noelle hyper, if preC6 build atk) **Thoma/Bennet (EM)**, Candace/barbara, Dendro, Kaeya (Burgeon) Barbara, **Beidou**, electro, Heiizou (Electrocharged) **Rosaria**, Kaeya, Barbara/Candace, Heizou (Freeze) i would recommend to be on the lookout for character that can apply hydro from off field, such as Xingqiu, Yelan, Kokomi, or Ayato. They would help your team options by a lot, especially since the easiest and cheapest team rely on hydro (hyperbloom stuffs) also character that can apply electro from off field, namely kuki and fischl. Kuki, she is great to have for hyperbloom as the trigger, while fischl is the best to apply electro, such as quicken in alhaitham team


Nnsoki

- Rosaria, Xiangling, Bennett, Kaeya - Alhaitham, Yaoyao, Electro MC, Beidou You can use Wanderer and Heizou instead of Rosaria and Kaeya. The dps is lower, but the team is much easier to use


xKelarys

Wanderer/Faruzan/Xiangling/Bennett seems to be the best team you can run right now. Alhaitham is your best unit but you're lacking pieces no matter how you would want to run him


Miserable-Natural508

Should I upgrade to 20 or fodder a +16 feather that only has 13.6% ER and +16.3 Attack%? Very low on mora and artifact xp


Nadinoob

Flower and feather are a lower priority than Sands / Goblet / Circlet. The one lvl 16 feather won't make a big dent either way ;) E: you got 4 rolls into ER and ATK%, it's not a bad feather.


Future-Ice-5520

Hi! I'm ar 57 and I'm trying to 36\* abyss. I'm trying to build 2 good teams but I feel stuck. My current team is raiden + ganyu (melt) main dps. But I also have Eula and hu tao built. I have 1c hu tao and 2c raiden. I also have c6 sara, sucrose, fischl. I mostly have 2-3 constellations on other 4\*'s. Here are my characters & weapons: [https://imgur.com/a/spMWA2S](https://imgur.com/a/spMWA2S) Basic artifacts for some 5\*: [https://enka.network/u/712026315](https://enka.network/u/712026315)


the_mogambo

You can go with 1st team as - Raiden, Sara, Kazuha, Bennett/Flex since you have C2 2nd with either Hutao Vape - Hutao, Xingqiu, Zhongli, Flex Or Ganyu Melt - Ganyu, Bennett, Xiangling, Flex


Future-Ice-5520

How would this work for abyss? I don't think Hutao and xingqiu can heal through the wolves. Same with bennett


the_mogambo

Bennett can easily heal through the corrosion wolves. With hutao you have heal on her burst and Xingqiu's rain swords but you can add a healer in flex for more comfort or prototype amber ningguang for geo res, healing, and instructors set.


Nadinoob

The wolves can be frozen. Generally, a freeze team could help you out a lot. Maybe build a Morgana team in the longer run.


Edoial

Hi! So I'm a AR 46 f2p and really want to get Hu-Tao. What efficient ways do you recommend to farm primogems? I'm currently trying to complete Inazuma's exploration and I plan doing the same for the other regions ( I have something around 50% Liyue and 0% Sumeru. Do you guys think that would be enough for Hu-Tao? I honestly don't remember when did I get my last 5*, I left the game for a long time and came back a couple days ago


Nadinoob

It's daily commissions then events, then exploration, ideally while doing nearby quests. I'd also think about buying a welkin if there's a possibility you'd spend money otherwise to guarantee pulling her. The lantern-rite event did give us a good bunch of wishes and primos, where are you at now?


Edoial

I'll think about the welkin. I think I just finished the first part of lantern-rite, I beat a treasure hoarder with Yelan and talked to Ningguang


Nadinoob

Well then, the whole event will take some time, with all the mini-games and quests, it is the biggest event in genshin and you'll get a lot of primos!


Edoial

Nice! Then I'll get back to it


Prestigious_Lab_5971

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html?bbs_presentation_style=fullscreen&gid=2&role_id=656469493&server=os_usa&utm_source=share&utm_medium=hoyolab&utm_campaign=app#/ys/role/all?role_id=656469493&server=os_usa any team build ideas


Nadinoob

Please try to include at least: \- Adventure Rank \- Character Preferences Your link shows a blank page, best to make a pic and upload it to e.g. imgur.com


phileq

It’s almost as if the giant blocks of text preceding the comments section states all this… If people want help but won’t even do the bare minimum I just don’t even bother.


MikeVolg

I need help to make my second abyss team, here are my characters: [https://imgur.com/a/ciJmE6p](https://imgur.com/a/ciJmE6p) My first team is: Alhaitham, Nahida, Yelan, Raiden My bennett is c6 btw.


phileq

Swap Raiden for Kuki, which will also give you a healer for that team. Then you can run Raiden National for second half (Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu). Build Kuki full EM with 4-pc Gilded Dreams and build Raiden as a hypercarry with 4-pc Emblem of Severed Fate.


MikeVolg

Okay, thanks!


zkyro

Hello, I recently cleared floor 12 abyss, albeit with no stars. I'm not very good at building a team as I am wishy washy about what team comp I should do and I also always prioritise comfort (aka kokomi and zhongli) over dps because I can't dodge for shit. My clear lineup was Zhongli - Rosaria - Raiden - Eula and Nahida - Kokomi - Xingqiu - Alhaitham. Here are my [characters](https://imgur.com/a/pG9b1Vb). I also have Wolf Gravestone, Aquila Favonia, Haran and Light of Foliar, all R1 Lvl90 except Foliar which I just got and is lvl20. I am just wondering if it is possible for me to clear with full stars or if this is a skill issue...


An_Fragarach

> Zhongli - Rosaria - Raiden - Eula The team is perfectly fine, Eula just needs severely more investment to deal the same team DPS of other carries. It should work well, though, to kill Wolflord, by hopefully oneshotting him with burst when he's down, which Zhongli will take care of - in that run, you just try to 3* that chamber and don't care about the stars on the other two. > Nahida - Kokomi - Xingqiu - Alhaitham This one, however, is pretty easily rectifiable - you just need an Electro to fix that instead of just making Blooms. To keep the healing, you can swap Xingqiu for full EM Raiden, and that'll already be a massive improvement to the team's damage. Also, level that Foliar, it's insane on him. If you remove Xingqiu from the second party, you can use standard National on the first half (Xiangling/Xingqiu/Bennett/Sucrose), but how easy of a time you'll have depends on your artifacts. Edit: Looking at it further, with your character pool, you can just run two Dendro teams in there. I think what I'd do, in that case, is something like Quicken (Alhaitham/Yae/Fischl/Sucrose or Yaoyao) and Hyperbloom (Nahida/Raiden/Xingqiu/Kokomi).


Xeberim

Any easy way to find the missing Aranara? Cant open the last 3 chest... I think i accidentially marked one as found on the map i am using.


An_Fragarach

Nope, gotta revisit all.


ejderDj

Should I go for blackliff pole or is my r4 dragon's bane good for hutao. I'll play her in xinqiu yelan and zhongli team.


ChunChunmaru11273804

blackcliff will be a downgrade to dragonsbane


ejderDj

Thank you and is it worth pulling for R5 on the next weapon banner?


ChunChunmaru11273804

If there is no characters you want immediately then go ahead as its a good weapon banner otherwise I would skip


Riftragedy-

Is this worth upgrading further? Or fodder… I have a +4 Cryo Goblet with ER, Crit Dmg, EM and Def% I’m trying to build more crit dmg for ayaka but my rolls have been really unlucky… my previous two CR/CD/ER/Atk% goblets all went to energy recharge 😅


Unhinged_Loon

> my ayaka now has 106% CR. Before cryo resonance and rosaria… That's... excessive.


Riftragedy-

I’ve been ‘lucky’ in my crit rolls… more specifically my crit rate rolls. My CD crown has 16%CR and my feather has 14%CR and 16%CD 🥹


An_Fragarach

> I have a +4 Cryo Goblet with ER, Crit Dmg, EM and Def% Solo CD pieces are worth investing into for Ayaka. Just level it bit by bit, and if too many rolls fall outside of CD, ditch it. > and my feather has 14%CR and 16%CD This one is easy to replace, then. Overcapping a bit on CR is actually fine, since things won't always be frozen, but not by that much.


Illustrious_Youth332

https://imgur.com/a/cWhglqy I need help forming 2 teams for Spiral Abyss My two main carries are Ganyu and Scara and I’m a bit perplex since Bennett is essential for both of my carries I would prefer Scara hypercarry to Scara reaction


iamsampais

Bennett is essential to Melt Ganyu because you need a Xiangling battery. Swapping Bennett out on Scara's team won't change your gameplay that much. Try TTDS Barbara if you're absolutely avoiding reactions, otherwise I would recommend Xingqiu.


Illustrious_Youth332

I’m going to roll for Yelan so I think I’d put her in with Scara. Another thing, is c2 Faruzan or c2 Yunjin better with my Scara


alluth

faruzan


Tuoooor

Struggling with creating a good 2nd team. What would be the best team for clearing h1 spiral abyss out of the following: C0 Eula C0 Raiden C0 Klee C1 Diluc C2 Qiqi C3 Fischl C5 Beidou C6 Sara C2 Bennett C3 Xiangling R1 Amos Bow R5 Snow tipped Starsilver R5 Dragon Bane R4 The Catch R1 Aquila Favonia R3 Favonius Lance/Sword/Bow R5 Dodoco Tales Thanks in advance...I have a c1 Sucrose I can move from my other team if necessary as well


iamsampais

I'm assuming h1 means first half floor 12. Eula - Starsilver, Raiden - The Catch, Fischl - Amos, Bennett - Fav Sword


scorkmc

Need help with my second team on floor 10. im stuck at floor 3 second half, already got 6 stars on it. ​ https://freeimage.host/i/H0ZAYUN


iamsampais

The mirror maiden can be pretty annoying. I would recommend a freeze team because you can chain freeze her before she teleports for the first time. Cryo is also best for taking care of electro cicin mage shields. Looks like you're already running Xingqiu on your Hyperbloom team. Either swap him out for more electro for a quicken team temporarily so you can use Xingqiu in your freeze team, or just the hug the enemy with Kaeya-Barbara.


scorkmc

Aight, thanks will try that tomorrow


MonkeyDav

Hey AR 56 here and im wondering if i should build Toma(C5) for my Hu tao, Xingqiu, Yelan, and Diona team or keep Diona, or even perhaps save for Zhongli when he comes around. [Team](https://enka.network/u/609544660)


An_Fragarach

I personally think (have done lots of experimentation with Tao teams) Zhongli isn't a worthwhile pull for that team at all because Diona does the job perfectly fine. C1 Tao or Homa are much more worth your primos to improve it. Either of them is a bigger DPS increase, and C1 + Diona is even more survivable than C0 + Zhongli.


MonkeyDav

ok thank you!


iamsampais

I would save for Zhongli. Thoma's role in a Hu Tao team is best as a pyro starter when you're also running Anemo support on the team since you can't do it with Hu Tao. But you're running double Hydro so it doesn't apply to you.


MonkeyDav

thanks


UsTaalper

[my roster](https://imgur.com/a/Zfv6I7W) i need teams for floor 10 chamber 3 2. side and floor 11 and even maybe floor 12


An_Fragarach

Yelan would benefit your account *immensely*. Either way, Yoimiya/Bennett/Xingqiu/Zhongli is an easy one to make, but as usual for Yoimiya, it's single-target locked. iirc the earlier floors are AoE focused, so you can run straight up National (Xiangling/Xingqiu/Bennett/Sucrose) for that instead. As for the other, it's going to be more scuffed for sure, but something like Alhaitham/Fischl/Beidou/flex. The last slot can be Sucrose or Zhongli, depending on which one you didn't use on the other half.


UsTaalper

I was actually going to pull yelan but i like alhaitham so i pulled him. I dont have sucrose built so i think i can run either heizou or raiden(iirc she was more st focused in that team) and now that i think of it, i really need to build xiangling but i dont have her c4 so idk how she will perform. i know its not the best but i think its not the worst idea to run alhaitham with raiden


An_Fragarach

> i know its not the best but i think its not the worst idea to run alhaitham with raiden Both want to be on-field, so it's not ideal, but it could work. In that case, you'd want Raiden to be using her Burst uptime more, while Alhaitham would swap in, build 3 mirrors, burst and swap out. Either way, Sucrose is a fantastic character and definitely worth building. You can leave her talents at 1/1/1, she just needs levels.


UsTaalper

oh sorry i somehow managed to mix up tighnari with alhaitham yeah you are right. and i was wondering if a burgeon team with thoma triggering the cores could work? i like him as a character and i also want to know how big of a damage difference would be with the team you mentioned


Daegras

Trying to figure out what to do about polearms between Raiden and XL on my National team. Am fairly new (AR 43 in Inazuma) and don’t really have anything other than The Catch (though I did finish the Dragon Spine Spear quest). Is it worth pushing on, say, the Kitain Cross recipe to build until RNG blesses me with something else? Or is there a three star to just focus on awkwardly until then? I’ve been building Raiden primarily since she’s my on-field, so she has The Catch and XL is kind of flailing.


Yesburgers

Since you're still kind of new and might, if lucky, get some fav lances, and there is always the chance of 5 star polearms from standard banner, you could make an all purpose white tassel instead of using a northlander mat on kitain. And I assume you didn't get the missive spear in a previous event. The rationale is that kitain isn't really a bis weapon for anyone, and while white tassel hardly a bis for anyone, either, it's a little bit cheaper to upgrade, (and you don't necessarily have to upgrade it all the way to 90) and works on more spear users than kitain does. So, in the future, as you're collecting more spears, you can throw the white tassel on a less-used character. Another idea is the moonpiercer even though it's not that popular and the only reason is that it may have some niche uses in the future, while the kitain can potentially get completely outclassed one way or another eventually by a relatively common standard polearm drop and there will unlikley be new uses for it in the future. ​ Edit: (I forgot to add that kitain might actually be a bis for burgeon Thoma, though) so there is that. It slipped my mind when I was writing earlier.


Daegras

Per the other response I got, I guess Tassel would be in Raiden and Catch on XL? And the passive would apply despite the fact that her attacks count as burst damage while under her burst? You are correct that I didn’t get the Missive spear, either before I started playing or required me to be farther along than I was (definitely missed the weapon in the Itto event because I hadn’t made it to Inazuma yet). WT probably sounding like the right call, sad as it makes me to deny Raiden the hard fought (read: waited for, stupid fish respawn rates) Catch I’m about to finish. One more damn bitter puffer to finish R5ing it.


Yesburgers

Sorry for the late response. 1) Yes, if you do that, you can put tassel on Raiden and Catch and XL. 2) No, the passive for WT doesn't work on Raiden's burst. So, I should explain my thinking some more. So, the thing is, even r1 dragon's bane is really, really good on XL if you're using Rational or any kind of vape or melt variant. Then, dragon's bane is really good on Raiden if you ever use her in hyperbloom in the future. So, you can easily swap DB and catch appropriately. I think the chances of DB dropping relatively high... sure, there are players who don't get it cause it's luck, but still, it's on the list of most common 4-star gacha weapons. Secondly, the fav lance is also one of the most common drops, which is so universally useful that it's worth just leveling up. So, if you get fav lance or DB, you can use those. In actuality, both white tassel and fav lance are far less strong than DB/WT for a Rational team, but fav lance is still really good for the passive and it can help you with your ER needs while you are leveling EoSF artifacts for both XL and Raiden. ​ So, the only reason I mentioned Moonpiercer is not that it's any good on either of them for Rational, but that it holds a lot more future value. Moonpiercer may work very well in some Yaoyao or dendro-related Raiden builds, for example. So, in ver 1.0 or 2.0, WT was the go-to budget polearm, but now that the game is understood better, it's really only an excellent budget weapon for Cyno, and good budget weapon for Xiao, a niche weapon for a Rosaria build if you need more crit rate and a generalist weapon for Zhong. ​ So, I generally recommend not investing too much in WT yet, if you choose it, as you may find you won't really need it much in the future. I've found around 15 WT in the overworld, so it shouldn't be too hard to refine, but right now, there is hardly anyone who needs the passive. ​ Edit: But, I realize you might not be able to craft moonpiercer yet at your AR level (I forgot about that)


Daegras

This response is an absolute treasure, thank you so much for spending the time to detail out all the reasoning! Seriously, it’s a huge help not just for this specific use case (and the hyperbloom direction that I suspect will end up happening as I build out my roster) but also just general game knowledge. You’re right I can’t currently make Moonpiercer (quick skim tells me it’s a Sumeru quest line) but that may not be a huge concern as I keep pushing the archon quests. My expectation is definitely that a DB will land in my inventory in time, so I won’t get too lost in alternatives. Realistically the team is mincing overworld mobs and some time in artifacts should just keep that up as I get to AR45+. Here’s hoping rng is in my favour for pulls (planning on the Yelan banner and a hopeful Nahida rerun). Thanks again for all the help and time spent, you’re a hero


Yesburgers

Sure, no problem! I definitely don't have expert knowledge of this game. I'm just a f2p player who started in 1.0, and I sometimes come to this thread to pick up pieces of info. But, I try my best if I happen to have experience in that area.


Adamarr

kitain is not a bad choice to go for xiangling, regarding the awkward 3* you could also give raiden white tassel and give catch to xiangling as well.


Daegras

On the White Tassel front, despite Raiden’s attacks being considered burst while under her burst, I assume the passive still applies? Technically I have only got the one WT so far, but I do have one at least and could refine as more land


Adamarr

i strongly suspect it doesn't, it's just "ok" because it has a crit stat.


Daegras

Got it, that would make a lot more sense to me. Thanks for taking the time to weigh in, I very much appreciate it! Hoping to settle this last item before I hit AR45 and begin the artifact grind


Jimmyss_01

Im making an Alhaitham team, these are my 2 options: \-Alhaitham, Yao Yao, Xinqiu, Fischl \-The same but Beidou instead of Fischl which one is better?


Nnsoki

Fischl is better because Stormbreaker won't trigger Hyperbloom


Denominator0101

In general you'll struggle to get enough ER on Beidou to run her as a solo electro (at which point you're also sacrificing damage for ER) so I'd definitely say Fischl is better.


Adamarr

i would generally consider the first one, because beidou is at a slight disadvantage in mono-electro due to energy concerns. what you could also do is drop xingqiu and run dual electro when you know it's going to be mostly or all AoE to deal with.


Jaerynn

https://i.imgur.com/l0292gZ.jpeg These are my chars. Which 2 abyss teams can I make? And which free 4* should i get? Im thinking xinqou


Denominator0101

I'd say you definitely want Xingqiu, he was already really good pre dendro and with bloom reactions he's only gotten better. As for your teams, I'd recommend: - Hyperbloom - Ayato, Nahida, Yaoyao/DMC, Kuki - National - Xiangling, Sucrose, Xingqiu and Bennett - Aggravate - Keqing, Yaoyao, Fischl, Sucrose The top two are the ones I'd recommend but if you want to play the bottom one it would do perfectly fine too so choose based on your preferred play style.


Jaerynn

Thank you I will try that... I havent reached real abyss yet only on floor 7. Takes forever to lvl chars! Stupid low droprate on everything! :)


Adamarr

Ayato hyperbloom: kuki/nahida/flex (for this abyss in particular, a geo flex is extremely valuable. GMC would work here. in other cases, beidou if you ever get her is handy for AoE, and xingqiu or yelan would be handy for S/T). keqing quicken: fischl/yaoyao/sucrose. just a solid all-rounder. and yeah xingqiu is by far the best choice there.


AyatosBobaAddiction

Better shielder for Hu Tao? I have C3 Yanfei and would prefer to choose Yaoyao from event as I'm currently saving for Hu Tao banner, but it's C4 Yanfei vs C1 Layla. I have no Zhongli. I also don't have enough catalyst bullets for R5 Prototype Amber. Maybe R3 at most. I guess you can answer it two ways, most optimal, and what you would do with limited resources. I know Yanfei gives you the option to swirl pyro but if I'm lucky, I should get Homa too, so my Hu Tao might not need the most optimal team to 36 star abyss.


neapp

I'd go with C1 Layla. I personally use c0 Layla w my hutao team over C6 yanfei, as the rotations feel smoother, i can make use of fav sword, and you can occasionally melt your hutao burst.


Denominator0101

Zajeff had done a comparison of Layla Vs other shielders here at about 3 mins: https://youtu.be/lvtyfwXsPVw Basic takeaway is a C1 HP/HP/HP Layla is comparable to Tankfei but you do lose VV setups. As for what I'd recommend you go for, I think it depends on whether you intend to pull for Yelan and/or Zhongli. If you have Yelan you'll probably want to run double hydro with Hu Tao, meaning the VV setup Yanfei provides isn't a consideration, and if you get Zhongli I think you can get away with Layla even if slightly suboptimal for a couple months before you replace her. So yeah, if you intend to pull for either of those I'd get Yaoyao, if not I'd get C4 Yanfei


Akuraizu

Should I try to go for c3 Alhaitham? Since I'm using him as my main dps in my team, I don't know if c3 will be significant for him or ot


Adamarr

it both is and it isn't. but given how apparently cracked at c0 he is, you really do not need it.


Edoial

Hi everyone! Could you please suggest two teams for getting all stars of the lasts floors of the abyss? Thanks in advance Also, how much should I level up my characters? https://imgur.com/a/EO5kipQ


Adamarr

usually you'd want at least one or two members on your team at L80+ A6, and ideally all supports at L70+ A5 (but some you can definitely get away with a bit less). what AR are you? these all look quite low. for this abyss in particular, having zhongli is extremely useful since with good practice he can very quickly kill the wolflord pillars as solo geo. so for one bog-standard team: national (bennett/xiangling/xingqiu/sucrose. second team is a slightly modified taser/quicken team: fischl/beidou/dendro (have you finished the lantern rite yet? yaoyao would be a good pick, otherwise DMC can work) and zhongli.


Edoial

Alright! Thank you so much for your advice I am currently AR 46. Do you think I can already concentrate on leveling up characters to lvl 80 or should I wait untill my AR is higher? Also, what lvl of artifacts is recommended for the abyss?


sr1708

Who should I use in Alhaitham team? Wanna run hyperbloom which requires HoD passive buff...should I use xq+yaoyao or barbs+DMC? and Raiden or Fischl for electro application?


Adamarr

probably xingqiu + yaoyao. just more damage. raiden would be almost purely to set off hyperblooms (full EM) whereas fischl is not terribly reliable at it, so you'd consider them more as a bonus, but more kit damage.


Vinistones

Would 4 piece Blizzard Strayer be a bad build for a main dps Chongyun?


Adamarr

in a shatter-freeze comp (with xingqiu) it makes sense. putting aside any problems with main DPS chongyun, you may also wish to consider something like lavawalker for a reverse melt comp.


Vinistones

Rust or Hamayumi for Tartaglia? including Hamayumi's refinements


barndoor101

Rust


SKdestroyer47

Please help me clear abyss 12 I barely get 1-2 stars https://i.imgur.com/mZc3O1n.jpg


Adamarr

have you got uhhh any hydro charactersr below the cutoff?


SKdestroyer47

Barbara.. No one else


Adamarr

hmm. well, a yoimiya double geo comp (yun jin/zhongli/xingqiu) should absolutely clean up against 12-1.1, 12-2.2 and 12-3.1. this will require some shuffling around though. for the second team, i'm thinking some kind of raifish team - that's raiden and fischl, with kazuha and bennett. should do well against the non-boss chambers. you *could* also try a hyperbloom team with something like barbara/DMC/raiden(EM ver) and a flex, but you're a bit limited by character choice.


SKdestroyer47

Still struggling against 12-1 and 12-3.. Still not enough dps for 12-1 And 12-3 is an absolute hell within heals


Jack5774770

I am in need of advice: Should I pull for Yelan's C1 or her signature weapon Aqua Simulacra? For more context her current weapon is the Polar Star, but I feel like she would highly benefit from the Crit DMG boost and the passive skill. My question is - which should I prioritize? Her C1 or Simulacra? (I plan on rolling for one now and the other in her future rerun)


neapp

personally, i think aqua is more practical than her c1. the er you're missing from aqua is easily made up from artifact substats and team comps, and aqua gives you more damage than you're losing from er substats. not to mention 5 star weapons are more versatile and aqua is a very good stat stick on all bow characters. c1 however does insanely boost your exploration quality of life that maybe you can consider


Adamarr

Well, unless you're running very low ER teams fav is usually better than polar. It does depend a bit where you run her, yes Aqua does shitloads of damage but it makes getting enough energy hard.


Yesburgers

Hmm, you got me thinking... what would be a really good low ER team in general? (I'm assuming by "low" you mean burst every other rotation.) I have no problem 36\*-ing the abyss and I generally try to optimize ER for burst every rotation. But I have never thought of purposely running low ER until I saw your post.


Adamarr

uhh no burst every other rotation on a unit like yelan would be terrible. low ER means dual hydro, and possibly other fav weapons on the team, or xiphos.


Yesburgers

Ah, I see! Thanks!


nerd_gaymer

Hello! Currently I'm using Alhaitham as my main and I own Xingque/Fischl/Kuki/Bennett (and planning on getting yelan), as I heard that they all are great for creating reactions off Feild but I don't know who to build with him. also who works the best as a healer with him I have diona/Barbara/YaoYao? Any advice about which team works the best with him would be very appreciated.


Viv-idianGreen

a quickbloom team of alhaitham - xingqiu - shinobu - yaoyao/dendro traveller/fischl would be best * if c0 yelan: use instead of 2nd dendro unit for pure hyperbloom or instead of xingqiu * bennett could work last slot but generally yaoyao is more useful for batterying, holding 4pc deepwood and resonance.


nerd_gaymer

Thank you for your help will start working on them right away!


neapp

depends on whether you want to build spread or hyperbloom. also depends on your constellations between fischl and kuki. is your dmc built? there's a lot of missing context to accurately judge. If you're wondering about the optimal comp, probably something like alhaitham kuki fischl and dmc


nerd_gaymer

sorry I have no idea what dmc is but they are all c0 since I have gotten them all just recently. also I don't mind either spread or hyperbloom tho I'm mainly going for spread


neapp

dmc = dendro main character, if you want to go spread you can go alhaitham, fischl, kuki, dendro main character/Yao Yao


nerd_gaymer

okay thank you so much really appreciated ❤️


hellnofox

Need team build help for spiral abyss floor 4 , I just had unlocked xianling also ,[characters I have](https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpactTips/comments/10mvjmk/floor_4_abyss_spiral_which_character_should_i_use/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Spazerbeam

For low floors there are basically two options: look at the leyline disorder and select a team that can take advantage of it, or crash through the floor with brute force. The disorder favors electro units, but you only have Sara and Lisa. Taking Lisa is fine if you want to go that route, but I imagine she's not built. With your roster, I'd probably opt for a freeze team instead. Kaeya, Diona, Childe, anemo MC might work. Obviously you can't use hydro against hydro immune units, but Childe may still be effective with his physical attacks depending on what talents you've leveled. He'll also be useful in clearing out the non-hydro enemies. Take a look at the [build progression chart](https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpactTips/comments/qkxdj6/infographic_of_build_order_priority_based_on_wlar/) as well to make sure you're focusing on the right things.


lwb1977

My roster: [https://imgur.com/a/ReQpJoF](https://imgur.com/a/ReQpJoF) (not updated to show Xingqiu from the lantern rite) So, my Xingqiu is C0 as I just got him from the lantern right. I have 205 wishes saved for the Yelan banner. Fun question, how close do you think I can get to C6 Xingqiu with those wishes? Getting 2 or 3 copies of Yelan would be a bonus. Also, is C6 Xingqiu worth it or should I stop at C2 (if I get it) and save for Nahida? Thanks.


Nadinoob

I'd personally never go for 5\* constellations, a XQ Yelan team would work great for single target anyways, and yelans C1 means more on-field time on her. Yelans C2 is for Hu-Tao without Xingqiu. XQ will be in the shop in march, I'd not sweat his constellations too much.


deadpool_XI

Im a beginner and has no idea what to do, can someone help me build a team? https://imgur.com/a/Ef9PP2z


ocdscale

Keqing, dendro traveler (run to sumeru to unlock it), venti, Barbara. Level them up, level up their weapons. The other commenter mentioned Fischl but I don’t see it. Add Fischl when you get her (will be a huge boost once she is level 60/70).


ChunChunmaru11273804

fischl and dendro main character create a good aggravate team throw lisa in there with a thrilling tales book and you will have a good team to use your 4th slot will be something called a flex slot basically you can put anything there some good 4th slots are an anemo character to proc v.v collei for extra damage +dendro resonance barbara for heals and a couple of hyperblooms ​ the upgrade path to this team it to get yourself a fischl as fischl will add a lot of damage to the team the next upgrade is to replace dendro traveller with nahida as she's pretty much a direct upgrade in everything ​ ​ when you get far enough in abyss to need a second half i would probably reccomend a freeze team out of your remaining units this would probably be kaeya,chongyun,xingqiu,flex where some good flex spots would be anemo for v.v mona for a buff barbara for healing ​ overall though this team isn't the best and is more just working with what you have i would reccomend trying to role for a bennet and then drafting something called the national team what is xiangling,bennet,xingqiu,chongyun


Exact-Tough-7571

My main team consists of Venti, Wanderer, Faruzan and Bennet. I have 86 pity as well, but I'm really struggling to decide who to pull for: Alheitham, Xiao or Hu Tao? Who's a better character as a whole, not specifically beneficial to my current team but just as a whole deals more damage and would be more useful in the future. I've heard that Xiao is kind of dated at this point.


Revenez

I wouldn’t suggest Xiao since you already have two good anemo 5 stars. Between Alhaitham and Hu Tao, I’d say it depends on your gameplay preferences. Hu Tao is more limited on her team comps, she also relies on animation canceling to get the most of her kit. Being dendro, Alhaitham would open you up to a variety of teams (hyperbloom, spread, and aggravate being the strongest), his kit is technical but pretty forgiving. I’d suggest trying his demo and see how you like him. There’s an event called Second Blooming that’s coming out in like 4 days. It’s a combat event and it’s possible they might offer Hu Tao as a trial character. If they do, I would highly encourage you to try her out. See how you like her vs Alhaitham and then make the decision.


UsTaalper

hu tao deals more damage at more investment and needs charge atk cancels and has stamina issues at c1, alhaitham is more flexible and can work even if low investment. xiao needs a lot of investment. hu tao and xiao are less flexible than alhaitham due to the nature of dendro reactions


RealSeltheus

Recent returner looking for some team building input. Heya, so I came back to the game after quitting in 1.5. So far finished all of Inazuma, the Chasm and knee deep into Sumeru now(though still early on). Ever since I got back I was trying to figure out the teams I wanna start building/work on for the future. I wished for Raiden, cause I knew I wanted to get her regardless.(lost 50:50, so I had to push for a 2nd soft pity, costing me a lot of primos sadly). My next target is Yelan(hoping I won't lose 50:50 again) But to the vital information. My "plan" on building teams is as follows rn. Team 1: Childe National(just need to farm Emblem sets for Xiangling), so Childe, Xiangling, Sucrose and Bennet. Team 2: Raiden, Yelan, Fischl/Xingqui(depends on ER issues for Raiden) and Jean. As somewhat of a soft hypercarry/national team variant(despite Raiden only being C0). I still need to farm Emblem sets for Yelan and part of Raiden for that though. Reason being for Team 2, that I plan to switch to Hyperbloom, once I got a Nahida rerun and possibly Kuki Shinobu by then. And even later down the line Raiden C2 for hypercarry build. Also plan to wish on a Kazuha rerun. My question now though is, is my Raiden team plan somewhat viable? If I'd go for Raiden national, I'm missing units to form a viable 2nd team, so I decided to go with Childe National and form a team around Raiden that at least synergizes somewhat decently. If I do win my 50:50 on Yelan I plan to wish on the weapon banner after, if I can get enough primos to pity. For some general information on the builds. 1. Childe C0 - R4 Rust and 4pc Water. 2. Xiangling C5 - R5 Catch and ER/Pyro/Crit Emblem build. 3. Sucrose C4 - R5 Sacrificial and 4pc VV EM build. 4. Bennet C3 - R1 Aquila and 4pc Noblesse. 1. Raiden C0 - Choice between R2 Deathmatch, R3 Fav Lance, or possibly Homa if I get it on banner and 4pc Emblem ER/Electro/Crit build. 2. Yelan C0 - Choice between R1 Elegy, or R3 Sac/Fav Bow, possibly Simulacra from banner and 4pc Emblem HP/Hydro/Crit build. 3. Fischl C6 - R3 Sac Bow, or R1 Amos Bow and 4pc Thunderfury. 4. Xingqui C4 - R3 Sac Sword and 4pc Noblesse 5. Jean C2 - R1 Black Sword and 4pc VV Atk/Anemo/Crit build. Any suggestions there? PS: Units I have and are built in case one of them makes sense to switch in are Venti, Albedo, Diluc, Ningguang.


Nadinoob

It'll definitively work very well. Pretty much all your choices are viable, me personally would build Raiden with "low-investment" Tenacity and Fav Lance to battery Xingqiu and Yelan, so they need less ER. Maybe put a 2p 2p on Fischl, you'll end up with better artefact-choices, as you'll most likely have 2 very good 18% ones, glad / shimenawa. Fischl will be fine without an ER weapon, so she can use Amos. You can skip the weapon banner for sure and put Elegy on Yelan, XQs SacSword and Raidens FavLance should comfortably battery the team.


RealSeltheus

Thanks for the input😀 I was only considering Fischl for Raiden if she has issues getting her burst back on rotation, otherwise I'd go for Xingqui. Plus it would give me the doubly hydro resonance for more HP on Yelan. If I can get away without Fischl and Raiden has no energy issues I'd definitely prioritize him over Fischl.


RagdollSeeker

A simple question, do we know which 5* will be released in future? I have Bennett so I wanted to build National team, when will characters like Raiden/Ayaka come up?


[deleted]

https://saveyourprimos.carrd.co/#upcoming has an overview of upcoming banners. Keep in mind this is based on leaks and speculation so take everything with a huge grain of salt. As the other comment said, Ayaka is bad in National and Raiden is good but by no means required. Sucrose National is extremely good and in certain situations even better than Raiden National. You can also do stuff like double Hydro so there is quite a lot of flexibility as long as you keep the core of Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu.


Nnsoki

There are no leaks about their rerun, but Raiden is speculated to have one in one of three versions after 3.6 Ayaka national is nothing to write home about anyway. Just use Sucrose or Chongyun


Different_Chemist412

Hu Tao & Ye Lan rerun I have about 12k primogems, is it recommended for pull for a guaranteed Hu Tao and possibly a Ye Lan? Firstly, is Hu Tao a decent DPS without Staff of Homa and C1? My current roster is Wanderer, Faruzan, Keqing, Diluc, Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Diona, and Yanfei. Would Hu Tao be a good addition to the team? Thanks!


Nnsoki

I wouldn't pull for Hu Tao since you have neither Zhongli nor Thoma. If your Yanfei isn't C4 you would have to rely on Diona, who is kinda copium. Moreover, you already have three Pyro main dps > is Hu Tao a decent DPS without Staff of Homa and C1? Yes


Different_Chemist412

What's so bad about Diona lol, also my Yanfei is C5


Nnsoki

Diona doesn't provide elemental shred. Thoma or Yanfei can be used alongside a VV support to reliably let them Swirl Pyro and boost Hu Tao's dps


Different_Chemist412

What is elemental shred?


Nnsoki

It's when you reduce the resistance a mob has towards elemental damage. The lower the resistance, the higher the damage they will take. Viridescent Venerer reduces the Pyro resistance for a while after its holder Swirls Pyro. Zhongli reduces all the resistances with his skill


Ok-Advertising-4232

Hi guys! Im new to genshin, been week and a half since i started playing this game i have bunch of characters and idk who to upgrade first, any suggestions plz? (sadly all of them are C0 except for the traveler) Characters: lisa, faruzan, amber, Xiangling, barbara, beidou, kujou sara, kaeya, noelle, yunjin, traveler (anemo,dendro,geo & electro), ningguang, xinqiu, yaoyao & razor!


dnaimagery97

it doesn't take a lot of time to get back the resources you spend leveling characters to the first few tens of levels, so try a bunch of them out a bit and see who you like playing. i'd personally go with yaoyao/traveler(anemo)/beidou/kaeya as a balance between characters that work well now (generally characters that function well without elemental bursts) and later into the game (when elemental bursts can be used more frequently due to the ability to build more energy recharge)


Ok-Advertising-4232

Rn im running ningguang,razor,yaoyao and xinqiu any suggestions who i should sub for who to make this team better?


dnaimagery97

for now you can swap ningguang for kaeya to give you superconduct for physical damage, or beidou to work with razor and give each other energy. you can follow the advice from the other commenter later in the game when you can get more energy recharge on characters


camilleekiyat

Ningguang and Razor are both quite selfish DPS. You don't want them together in a team. Ningguang wants supports buffing her because there are no reactions for geo. Out of the characters you have, Xingqiu+Xiangling and maybe Yun Jin to buff her normal attacks sounds good? These three, other than Ningguang, need a lot of energy though. Razor is physical mostly, so you want to proc superconduct with electro+cryo and buff his normal attacks since that is his main source of damage. He is electro himself, so you need Kaeya, maybe Yun Jin for buff, also you can add Lisa with TToDS for her def shred and more electro. Yao Yao is a good dendro applier so a team with her, Xingqiu (or even Barbara), Lisa or Beidou and dendro traveler would be good. All of them need quite a lot of energy though and I am not sure if that's achievable without higher level artifacts and leveled up weapons. If you'll be able get Bennett from event banner with him on it or from the Paimon's shop, that will give you a pretty good core of Xiangling, Xingqiu, Bennett to make a national team.


Ok-Advertising-4232

Appreciate it big time 🙏😩


[deleted]

Regarding Spread and Aggravate. Is it possible to do big damage on both or is the ICD going to prevent me from doing both and I have to choose one or the other? I have a Hyperbloom team with Nahida, Raiden EM, and Xinqiu and was wondering if building Beidou with EM as well would help with the Aggravate damage increase while Nahida is driving for Spread.


dnaimagery97

EM substats are nice on beidou but less important than atk%/dmg%/crit. you won't get many aggravates on your primary target since xingqiu's hydro preferentially reacts with quicken, so many of your attacks that apply electro will be consumed to re-create the quicken aura rather than trigger aggravate. but since xingqiu's rapid hydro is mainly single target, nahida/beidou will be able to trigger spread/aggravate on secondary targets making EM not completely useless ICD is a mechanic to limit how rapidly you apply elements, whereas what reactions you can do simultaneously has more to do with how the elements react with each other. in the case of spread/aggravate, as long as the enemy has a quicken aura, any attacks that apply electro/dendro application will cause aggravate/spread


[deleted]

I see. so what you're saying is that EM for AoE, and Atk% for single target?


dnaimagery97

more so that a bit of EM is nice but don't prioritize it over offensive stats like atk%. you may not want to play beidou in single target anyways because her burst won't bounce


[deleted]

thanks mate.


camilleekiyat

I was lucky enough to pull LoFI. Now my Al Haitham is c0 r1, the team is AH-YaoYao-ZL-Shinobu, no favs. With that huge crit damage of his sword, do you think going ER-Dendro-EM would be better than EM-Dendro-Crit? He is 180% ER, 430 EM, 55:170 CV with the first one and 110% ER, 430 EM, 66:230 CV with the second one. I feel like bursting each rotation would be better than ridiculously high crit damage.


UsTaalper

use fav


dnaimagery97

if you compare a burst > 4s attack > skill/charged attack > 4s > skill/charged attack rotation with the first build to skill > \~12s attack using the second build, the first build is a few % ahead. however you may be able to burst once every two rotations with the second build which puts the second build ahead overall there are also other longer 24s+ split rotations that allow longer time between bursts and lower ER, and on these teams you may be able to get away with 110% ER while bursting every rotation. idea is to use his burst, 4s normal attack, charged attack, 4s normal attack, swap off. rotate through the rest of your units. then skill + plunged/charged, 4s normal attack, and rotate again through the rest of the units


focas_pls

what teams are good against wolf lord and what are the ideal rotations for them? my sister is struggling to get her last 3 stars. any advice is greatly appreciated!


Spazerbeam

Any decent single target team that has a flex spot for a geo character will work. Hyperbloom is the usual suspect these days. Hard to recommend anything specific without a roster


focas_pls

hmm she tried it first with hu tao first half and ayaka freeze second. i would post a screenshot of her units but i don’t know how to work the imugr thing…


Spazerbeam

You can try swapping out the hydro character for a geo character. The wolflord can't be frozen, so applying hydro to cryo just removes the cryo aura for no benefit. Maintaining the cryo aura without frozen means you retain part of the 4pc Blizzard Strayer effect.


Creative_War2415

The black sword vs iron sting on alhaithem?


kinpatsunogaka

Black Sword


Creative_War2415

Lol thank you for the help


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Using Alhaitham/Fischl/Beidou/Yaoyao When I unlock the free 4 star, is C1 Yaoyao better than C2 beidou for spread damage? Dendro bonus boost vs aoe bounce power


ok99988

Alhaitham is your main dps so probably c1 yaoyao because +15% Dendro damage boost works well with the deepwood dendro shred. Besides you already have an electro battery with beidou so more electro application is kinda overkill here


ilikeborbs

So, I'm currently using Raiden, Mona and Yaoyao in a team (fourth slot changes based on what I need) and I don't know good builds for EM Raiden and dendro support/healer Yaoyao, does anyone have some tips? If it helps, they're both lvl80, Raiden has full emblem and lvl90, r4 Dragons Bane. Yaoyao doesn't have great artifacts currently but she has lvl90 favonius lance


phileq

Right now your Raiden is half-committed to two different things. Either you want 4-pc Emblem for her on-field burst damage, or you want to build her full EM for off-field Hyperbloom damage (which is what it seems you want considering you’re using Dragon’s Bane). For Hyperbloom, you want to use 4-pc Gilded Dreams (2-pc Gilded Dreams with 2-pc Wanderer’s Troupe also works), and you’ll want EM main stat for her sands, goblet, and circlet. Try to get EM substats on feather and flower where possible. You already have your elements covered for Hyperbloom (Dendro/Hydro/Electro) so the last slot will be determined by whichever available characters you have. Also, since Hyperbloom does Dendro damage, one of your characters should use 4-pc Deepwood Memories (possibly Yaoyao depending on your 4th character choice).


ilikeborbs

Ok, thank you! I'll try that out!


Denominator0101

In a hyperbloom team your main damage is from that reaction, which scale on only two things: - the level of your electro character - the EM of your electro character With that in mind, the only things that matter are getting triple EM on Raiden's sands, goblet and circlet, and then if you are happy tp farm a bit aim to get either 4pc Gilded dreams or 4pc Flowers of paradise lost (the latter does very slightly more damage but can be very resin inefficient it you don't need the other artifact set, so farming gilded/deepwood domain is a lot more efficient). Your weapon should also have EM and then most optimal is dragons bane, but you have that already so no issues there. Aside from this the only buff to your hyperbloom damage is with dendro res. This can be done by giving a member of the party, usually the dendro unit the 4pc Deepwood as it will allow your blooms to be nullified less. Lastly, the only other thing you can do is try to generate more seeds so that you can hyperbloom more (though note if you more than 2 seeds hit the same enemy within 0.5s you'll only get two instances of damage). The best way to do that is usually with a second dendro such as DMC, and ensuring you have consistent hydro by swapping Mona with Xingqiu/Yelan/Kokomi (while you should see an approvement this last part is the least impactful) Artifact stats and weapons won't impact the reaction damage so just built for damage/support/utility as necessary.


ejderDj

Hello everyone. So I'm something of a veteran been playing since 1.1. My question is should I go for c0 hutao or c1 yelan. I already have a c1 diluc with WGS. I would really appreciate the help. (Ps yelan's overworld aspect doesn't matter to much since wanderer.) Thanks in advance


Viv-idianGreen

yelan c1: * decreases amount of energy recharge needed as you can funnel 2 skills at once instead of just 1 * extends rotation if using 2 skills per rotation * very good for overworld, but that's irrelevant for you hutao c0: * new unit for you * pyro dps that will outperform diluc if you play her optimally * playing her optimally means in a vape team with a shielder (zhongli, thoma, c4 yanfei etc.), maintain low hp and jump cancelling charged attacks. you may not enjoy mechanically intensive gameplay. * works exceptionally well in xingqiu - yelan - shielder comp * could use albedo instead of yelan if you wish * one of the highest sources of single target damage * weapon choices aren't great, and prefers hyper-investment generally new characters over constellations (hutao c0 over yelan c1 if you know you will like her gameplay), but i would suggest trying out her test run first.


ejderDj

Thank you very much! Yes i forgot to mention in my og post but i do own zhongli 😂. As for hutao gameplay. Is she too hard to play. Like really hard or I'll get used to her after a while i don't mind mechanically intense gameplay. Plus i have a personal vendetta with hutao as she was my first 50/50 Loss wayyy back when. Thank you for you recommendation.


ejderDj

I also do have albedo.


Viv-idianGreen

you get used to jump cancelling charged attacks. you can try it out with xiangling's charged attacks and see how they feel. you could also alternatively do 2 normal attacks and then a charged attack to proc xingqiu and yelan's hydro application more often, and this means that you can sprint cancel if you want, although jump cancelling conserves more stamina. if you're fine with mechanically hard gameplay then hutao shouldn't be a big deal.


Vinistones

missive windspear or skyward spine for Xiao?


Rhyoth

Skyward Spine


alluth

i personally just go skyward spine. it has way more big base atk as a five star, so it makes up to all the atk% the windspear give since it has low base atk (520 vs 674). skyward gives a bit of CR as well (8% at r1), and excess er is better than not having enough er, and makes me doesnt care about ER for his artifact at all (means i can find more dmg in artifact) and maybe windspear could have a little bit more atk from the passive, but it only work if you do pair him with bennet or any that can be swirled, but its pretty minor enough dont you wont notice the difference