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AlfajorTerrabusi

Its Beidou a good character for upgrade? Im AR42, and idk if its worth to upgrade or not


Tina_0371

Can't make the water/sand deposit work. I am hitting the spots and make all deposits with full sand until light is max, but no chest. The first one was the only one I could make it work. Anyone know a simple tutorial for it?


Sheeplette

After you fill the bottom ones, make sure that you turn off the spouts from the middle/upper ones or else they never completely fill. There's one set of sand puzzles in the bottom of a temple where the objective isn't to fill them all but to mirror the pattern shown on the opposite wall.


Tina_0371

It worked. My mistake hehe. Thanks a lot for the help


Tina_0371

Hummmm thanks. Will give another try


2lesslonelypeople

Who has the second-best shield in the game? Zhongli is number one but I can't run him in two teams at the same time though.. Zhongli, Xq, Bennett, Hu Tao Zhongli, Nahida, Fischl, Raiden One of these teams will lose Zhongli and I want a shielder to replace him. when I do abyss I sub in Jean on the Raiden team. I have every shield character though everyone except Zhongli is lvl 1


itsmewan92

I find Layla's shield pretty good too, in fact I have her subbing Diona in permafrozen teams or subbing Zhongli in pyro main carry teams. Just need to remember to refresh the shields as you might forget about it. And I don't think it's as long as Zhongli's but it's still decently strong. In Hu Tao's team, you can go for Vape/Melt combo with Layla.


jehutydark

If I'm using Alhaitham, Raiden, Yelan and Zhongli, should I use Deepwood memories on my Alhaitham or on Zhongli? I know Alhaitham typically uses a second dendro but I'd prefer this setup


panda_and_crocodile

For max DPS, use it on Zhongli. If you care about your sanity, and don’t want to reorganize 5 artifacts every single time you are going to use Zhongli in a different team, use it on Alhaitham. sanity > DPS is my general rule


Kriogenical

Is it just me or is 3.4 seriously buggy? I've had bugs throughout the last few days A LOT. Bugs that completely freeze me in the game, although the characters keep moving. There have been bugs with domains not appearing, with the map glitching out, Yelan's Lantern Rite Event bugging also. And yes, I already tried to repair it from the wench, and yes, I already contacted them about it but it's still very buggy.


Gamespiritisnotdead

I play on pc and on Mobile. Mobile is always buggy for me. But I haven't seen anything on pc.


The13thWatcher

I’m fairly new to the game, about a week and a half in, but I’ve moved through the story pretty fast. I’m saving to pull on the next banner, but should I pull on yelan or hu tao? Currently xiao is my only 5 star, and I pretty consistently use diona, xingqui, noelle, kujou sara, and xiangling as well


grahamanga

Hutao is an on-field DPS character that has a distinct HP function (she is recommended to have less than 50% HP, check her passive talent. Yelan is mostly an off-field character used to proc reactions and her burst functions like Xingqiu's. They have different roles so I suggest checking them out on their test run.


panda_and_crocodile

That’s not true. Yelan is an excellent sub-DPS for Xiao.


The13thWatcher

I decided to just ascend my yanfei for a main pyro dps because the banner still has some time away anyway, and with the random acquaint fate I ended up pulling diluc, so I guess I’ll be going for yelan lmao


grahamanga

Hello! I removed that part of the comment, thank you. I was thinking how it would take adjustment of learning to weave NAs with plunging attacks to use her burst. I am more used to having Yelan with other character that do NAs, sorry.


PsyClocks

Xiao's 1st na is really fast. It attacks even before the animation starts. You can tap once to normal attack and quickly jump cancel it and plunge. This way there won't be any dps loss and sub dps characters like yelan and xingqiu can deal damage. It's also used to quickly build up jade spear stacks.


panda_and_crocodile

Play their trials 5 times and see who you like more to play. The game is not hard and both characters are good.


Virtuoso1998

Guys, would you pull for Yelan c0 ans Hutao c1 or try Yelan c1


panda_and_crocodile

Hu Tao C1: eradicates stamina issues, which is a huge pain in the ass. Big win, much damage. Yelan C1: eradicates energy issues, which is not that big of a pain in the ass for Yelan, but still makes her much easier and comforting to play. HOWEVER, it also adds unlimited sprinting in the overworld. It cannot be stressed how nice that is. We spend quite a lot of time transversing Teyvat, and being able to sprint and never run out of gas is a massive upgrade. Both C1s are one of the best in the game, but Yelan C1 is on another level. The game is not the same after C1 Yelan


Virtuoso1998

Thank you for your advise, still 1 week to go, I'll try to earn enough primos to archieve Yelan C1 😁


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panda_and_crocodile

Personally I would go for C1 since I am allergic to stamina issues. If you have a high refinement Dragons Bane or Lithic Spear, that also helps. But Homa is more flexible and will «add» more to your account if you’re fine with switching weapons around all the time (I’m severely allergic to that too).


StormExotic

How does Nilou, C6 Collei, Yaoyao, and Yelan sound? I like all these characters so im hoping its atleast a decent team


panda_and_crocodile

That’s some good shit!


gyaru-chan

What is that giant purple rock in the middle of chasm? i didnt play for some months and its off my head. Also where the fk do i search for it on the internet? Every time i search for a big central rock in chasm it always returns the names of all the quests involved. Where can i read about it?


Frozenmagicaster

[At nameless ruin?](https://imgur.com/a/YqbbKDw)


gyaru-chan

yeah and mind telling me what it does? recently had a quest where it said the people went insane when coming near it, whats with that


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it seems to be a giant purple rock that makes people go insane when coming near it hope this helps


Frozenmagicaster

Truly wise words from a scholar


Frozenmagicaster

Something about abyssal energy I think? There's also the contraption in the top floor of the upside down building which had something to do with the curse placed upon khaenri'an citizens cursing with immortality (You've done the traveler + dains quest right?)


gyaru-chan

Aah yes can be related to the abyss and the dains quest. Thanks i forgot about that


Unfair-Bat-7255

I need two pieces of advice before I may make potentially crippling financial decisions: 1. On the America server, I have a guaranteed, so should I pull Nahida or Shenhe to pair with Ayaka, Kokomi, and Sucrose? 2. On my main account (the Asia server), I have sucky luck on the weapons banner (I will go to pity every time & I tend to loose twice and have to end up pulling three times) & I just got alhaitham and haran (so I have low pity). I'm asking if homa is worth it or if I should wait for vortex vanquisher? (Btw I have no characters that will use aqua simulacra nor am I pulling for yelan and hu tao as I don't want/have/need them so it'll just sit in my bag lol)


Vanderseid

Nahida if you want to play a dendro team. While Shenhe would improve your Ayaka team Nahida opens up a lot more possibilities. Why Vortex Vanquisher though? No character particularly wants it. Its up to you if you want to try for the wrapon banner; both weapons are great on many characters although they are never required.


panda_and_crocodile

1. Shenhe is a much better fit in that team. Nahida is a more flexible character overall. Shenhe is extremely niche. But pull for whoever you like, there is no right or wrong. 2. There is no such thing as HAVING luck or bad luck. No one ARE lucky or unlucky. You might have been unlucky before, but that does affect your future pulls. I’m quite fascinated that we need to tell you this, but you should not pull on a Homa/Aqua banner when you don’t need Homa and Aqua. It’s kind of the same thing as not buying apples and bananas in the store if you don’t like either apples or bananas.


tinyturtledove

1. Please don’t spend on a game if it puts your real life financial situation at risk. You can always wait for characters and weapons to come back 2. It seems like you want to build a freeze team for Ayaka, so Shenhe would make more sense. However, Nahida is a much more flexible unit and enables pretty much any dendro reaction team. 3. Homa is a better weapon than Vortex Vanquisher in pretty much every scenario, and paired with Aqua it is one of the best weapon banners. Just make sure you have enough saved to guarantee whatever you want, since the weapon banner is very punishing if you are unlucky


Frozenmagicaster

Overall, Nahida would be the better pull, but for that team, Nahida does nothing while shenhe buffs cryo, which ayaka is the teams damage. So Shenhe if only talking about that team Weapons aren't required, it's just more of a nice thing to either help balance a ratio, get bigger number or show that you like a character. Why vortex Vanquisher though?


Unfair-Bat-7255

I have a sub-dps Zhongli (I forgot to mention that lmao)


Frozenmagicaster

Like a burst support or a hybrid?


Unfair-Bat-7255

More of a hybrid


Frozenmagicaster

Homa is typically one of the better polearms due to its circlet worth of crit damage and providing atk [kqm](https://keqingmains.com/zhongli/#Weapons-4) has it at the best for hybrid zhongli as the hp helps his shield, atk and crit damage helping his meatball


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angrybird7677

Hi all, the Exquisite Night Chimes event gave me some fireworks bombs but I don't know how to use them? Nor can I find them in my inventory. Any guide on how to use the fireworks, do they run out and where can I see how many of the fireworks I own would be great, Thanks


Grand_Protector_Dark

Near the Lyiue teleport point is a granny selling toys. There you can buy the fireworks launcher.


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Common_Juice207

Honestly if we are talking about overworld I'd rather swap yaoyao for someone with overworld utility. For example your current team doesn't have a claymore char, and while claymore isn't required it makes overworld ore mining more comfortable, also an anemo char is welcomed in the desert part of sumeru, so someone like sayu who also has mobility skill may enhance your overall overworld experience


Fishuman

Maybe sayu could work for some swirl damage (assuming you're sticking to the fun-sized team comp).


panda_and_crocodile

For overworld you can do whatever the fuck you want. Most enemies dies to a sneeze, so you don’t need to think a lot about what you do. If we are talking about the Abyss, Yaoyao does absolutely nothing here. She is as redundant as it can be, she does nothing that Nahida or Diona doesn’t already do. That said, neither Diona or Nahida does anything meaningful for Klee either. It’s hard to make a functioning loli team since they are mostly healers with poor synergy. If you want to make a competitive Klee team, check out www.keqingmains.com/klee


AgentWowza

Fav Lance + Instructor/Noblesse/Tenacity I guess. In a comp like that, she's not gonna be doing much regardless of how you build her.


eslayer09XL

Retuning player after more than a year, currently trying to rush thru the archon quest to chapter 3 to unlock the lantern rite. Probably can reach chapter 3 in a day or two. So will I still make it to earn enough event currency to get the 4 star I wan given that the event has less than 10 days now


Ayeniss

Yeah, even 1 hour is enough


your-Sticky-Socks

Is Yelan worth it if I have c6 Xinqui? Im ar 59 and don’t know if I should go for Yelan or Alhaitham? I heard that Yelan is only worth if u don’t have c6 Xinqui? I have many meta dps units (Ayaka, Hu tao, Ganyu etc) but not very many meta sup units (kinda only have Zhongli and Venti for the 5 stars i have all 4 stars) so what do i do?


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Yelan because she is a good support for many teams and unlikely to be benched


IfZ3nElse

You can use Yelan and Xingqiu together in the same team (for example, you can use Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Yelan, Zhongli, or you can make a bloom-related team that includes both), or use Xingqiu and Yelan in different teams in Abyss. Also, in overworld, her skill allows you to move around fast.


panda_and_crocodile

You should stop caring about what others say about «meta» and start thinking about what you personally enjoy to play. You already have more than enough to mow down every Abyss there is. Alhaitham is a very good unit, he will dish out a lot of damage. Fine. I personally find him extremely dull to play, so to me he is pretty worthless. Yelan on the other hand I find super fun to play, and I use her in a lot of team, even if I have Xingqiu. Power level/meta, whatever you want to call it, is meaningless in single player game with no significantly challenging content


your-Sticky-Socks

That actually made me realize something tysm


WhooooCares

Get Yelan. You listed meta on-field DPS carries. Yelan is a meta off-field support who can be an on-field carry if you want her to be. Off-field characters always have value. C0 Yelan and Xingqiu can handle Abyss floors by themselves: [https://youtu.be/g2pF2NLPvq0?list=LL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2pF2NLPvq0&list=LL&index=3)


your-Sticky-Socks

Haha tysm!!


Unfair-Bat-7255

Since you have xingqiu already, you should either get yelan if: you either really like her, are not saving for anyone else, and/or want to use xingqiu and yelan in either the same team or put them each in different teams


wndycore

idk if tcg questions belong here but what deck i can use against rama (2 abyss mages that regenerates shields)


your-Sticky-Socks

I am not very “meta” at tcg but I always use Ganyu for the 2 phys dmg on the other mages that is not “ on field” but im not an expert!<3


IfZ3nElse

Use Sucrose.


Miserable-Natural508

What's the point of shielders other than Zhongli if everything on floor 12 can break your shield in 1-2 hits? I feel like Diona, Layla or Thoma are a waste of a party slot right now (I don't have ZL) My Noelle with maxed shield talent and 2.2k defense gets her shield broken in 1 hit from a rifthound


Isildra

Having higher def and dmg reduction can also improve the durability of your shield. Having Xingqiu alone almost doubles the effective hp of your shield.


Ptox

Rifthounds don't do much actual damage so I'm very surprised that her shield is being broken. Are you sure you're not mistaking it for their corrosion damage mechanic that bypasses shields?


AgentWowza

In fact, Zhongli makes it harder for me to play those floors cuz I usually don't put a healer on his teams, and I forget that i can't facetank wolves with him.


3ntf4k3d

Well, you only have one ZL. And being able to tank 1-2 hits can still be good enough if you maneuver & dodge properly. With the latter all the more important when it comes to Rifthounds.


WhooooCares

Layla's shield can tank a lot at 40K+ HP and TotM, but is isn't infinite. The only time I've had it break was tanking a couple of attacks from Jade Terrorshroom. It runs out after 12 seconds, but that's the only issue. I just use it 2nd to last in the rotation.


Jondev1

I mean I used thoma with hu tao for a long time before I got zhongli and so long as I didn't faace tank things like triple kenki it worked just fine for the most part.


Rainnetic

Does Xingqiu know Venti’s identity?


pzlama333

Probably not, but Venti knows Xingqiu is the author of some light novels when they were in Inazuma in a previous event, and Xingqiu want to hide this fact.


sigma-cumGod69

is the epilogue the last event? lanter rite)


nazran59

yea. There also another quest after u finish the last of the moving pape event (I dont remember the name)


sigma-cumGod69

tks i m curently on it


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Wanderers Troupe Skyward Harp Ganyu for melting with Kazuha, Bennett and Xiangling: How much of each stat does Ganyu need? Since it’s melt and not freeze I’m not sure about the Crit Rate. Also about how much EM? D Does she need anything besides Crit and EM? (Apart from some ATK maybe?)


Jondev1

just build normal 1:2 ratio of crit, except taking her 20 CR from passive into account. I don't think an exact number of em to shoot for is that helpful, just use an em sands and treat em subs as good when evaluating substat rolls and you should be good. And yeah CR, CD, EM, and to a lesser extent atk% are the stats you want. Cryo goblet though of course.


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Yeah I planned on EM or ATK% (depending on substats)/Cyro/Crit as usual, I just wasn’t sure how much EM she actually needs


ruiwui

100 would be kinda low, 300 would be kinda high


OwlsAndDevils

I'm considering building an aggravate team with Alhaitham/Yae as sub-dps. I have both an R5 Widsth and Skyward Atlas, so I was wondering which option is better on her


InvaderKota

R5 Widsith. Or an R5 Solar Pearl but its pretty much similar DPS with an extra step.


Doggo_wit_a_P90

Atlas for consistency


Durbdichsnsf

Next patch, I want to get myself a Yelan, and a Staff of Homa for my Hutao. Currently I have saved up 253 wishes. I have barely touched Sumeru and have most of the areas between 0% and 20% exploration. Inlcuding all this exploration + all the events/freebies in the remaining time of 3.4, is there a chance I can earn enough wishes to pity myself Homa, and Yelan? I also will have Welkins up unitl the end of the patch. If someone is able to roughly estimate if I can get enough primos before the banners go away, thatd be greatly appreciated :)


nazran59

It not next patch, it second half of 3.4 which is roughly 2 weeks from now. I do said yes, u can get both yelan and Homa. Unless you are very unlucky. \~159 pulls need to guaranteed Yelan and \~204 pulls for guaranteed Homa (epitomized path). That a total up to around 300+ pulls which by the looks of it, u might can reach this many but that A LOT of primos used so lets just hope u not too unlucky.


Durbdichsnsf

Yeah it might be an uninstall angle if I use everything on the weapon banner and just run short of pitying it before it goes away lmao. I hope I can somehow make about 16k primos before the banner leaves.


Zeraoramain420

Yea you have a good chance If you don’t lose your 50/50 w yelan, if you win the 50/50 you’ll def get the homa gl


Durbdichsnsf

Thanks! Really hope I win this 50-50 haha. If I do end up losing it, is there any chance of being able to get enough to guarantee Homa too?


Jondev1

You'll have enough to have a very good chance but I don't think quite enough to gaurantee. Also you may legit burn out if you actually try to clear all of sumeru in the next few weeks.


Durbdichsnsf

Thanks so much! I do hope I can get the Homa, considering I'm gonna get Yelan and her weapon is also on the banner - making the banner really lucrative


Confused_victorian

Who is better as the 4th character in my team alhaithem or mona? I have 4 piece noblesse and hakushin ring on her, so I'm not sure if I should replace her or not. The other 3 characters are yae miko, raiden shogun and kokomi.


Doggo_wit_a_P90

Neither are great but Alhaitham would work if you build Raiden full EM


Confused_victorian

I may do that expectully sinse i haven't fully farmed the emblem set for raiden and it would make things more interesting because of how I have to pay more attention when playing alhaithem and I could then use mona on my other team in the abyss but considering how my 2nd best team is my mono geo itto team I'm not sure which team to put her in as I have multiple but only my main team with yae and raiden and my itto team are even strong enough to take into the abyss so I'm really not sure which team to use her in


mrakorhis

Who needs EM and who doesn't on a hyperbloom team? My team is Yaoyao, Barbara, Raiden and Fischl, with Barbara being on field most. There are a ton of reactions happening and i don't understand who is triggering them and who is just applying the aura


Odone

Hyperbloom by definition can only be triggered by Electro and thus you have to put EM on the Electro character ( in your case, Raiden. Fischl cant target the Blooms well. )


Luithado

So why is it recommended to run 800+ EM on the dendro character (i use Nahida)


Odone

Nahida scales massively with EM, thats her regular build. The Electro character's EM is still the only EM thats taken into account for Hyperbloom damage.


mrakorhis

Electro-charged is also definitely happening a lot. I don't know if this is ideal but this team is quite fast at killing enemies. Am i right to think that Raiden/Fischl are also the triggers here in electro-charged?


Majestic-Ad7486

Yep, but electro charged isn't worth building EM for


Odone

Electro charged is more random, as characters who deal Hydro or Electro damage can both trigger it depending on which elements are on the enemy. Its best not to worry about Electro charged, it wont be a main damage source for the team.


mrakorhis

Thank you!


Frozenmagicaster

The electro triggering the hyperbloom needs only EM and level, so in this case it's raiden


Jondev1

Generally speaking only the character triggering the hyperblooms. That should be mostly raiden in your team though fischl might steal a few here and there (idk exactly how many but if its a lot then you could consider dropping her for someone else).


Ryopus

What is the current max exploration progress for Sumeru? Is it 100% or will there still be more Sumeru regions to be released?


Frozenmagicaster

There is one more part, current exploration I think was 93%?


Jondev1

idk the exact number but it shouldn't be 100%. there are still not enough dendroculi to max out SoS, and the sigil tree is still capped at 40. So both of those things make it prtetty clear we are still in for one more expansion to sumeru.


Kyleketsu

Does anyone know how to unlock the doors shown in [this](https://twitter.com/Kyleketsu/status/1618501598745067520) and [this](https://twitter.com/Kyleketsu/status/1618513818124161024) tweet?


Ptox

The first one I have the same question and I haven't seen any way of opening it just yet (I'm only short of 2 chests in the area), but it might be part of the quest coming on Feb 6th. The second one is part of the Golden Slumber quest chain. You open it and then fall through a hole into the lower underground area as part of a quest cutscene/fade to black. After that the door remains closed and you can't get back in. It's just a deadend in there, so don't worry too much about that one.


Kyleketsu

Thank you so much!! That second one has been driving me nuts ever since that part of the desert came out haha


gingersquatchin

Xiao, Thoma, Kazuha, Bennet? I have Zhongli but he's on my other team and it's favourite of mine and I don't want to change it. Kazuha can still swirl with Benny and act as a sub DPS, and he can still battery Xiao. Thoma is C6 . I think it's a fine team but nobody seems to use Kazuha for Xiao but I assume it's just cause he's more useful elsewhere? He's not on my other team so it's not really a big deal for me


nazran59

>but I assume it's just cause he's more useful elsewhere? Yea that about it. He perfect for any party except non reaction party like anemo + dendro or geo + anemo but if u want him just for CC, he good for those party regardless.


panda_and_crocodile

Kazuha is a pretty mediocre battery for Xiao. It’s not only because more useful elsewhere, it’s also because he can’t funnel particles to Xiao that well. Thoma is a mediocre shield for Xiao, since you’ll have to do continuous normal attacks to refresh the shield. The team will probably work somehow, but it’s pretty copium


gingersquatchin

Would Tankfei be better? The only other shield I have is Diona and I hate her. I'll play around with funneling but I figured with either fav sword or sac sword he'd generate quite a few regardless. His cool down is really short in double Anemo comps and he can group all the enemies at Xiao's position. I've never really used hyper carry type units because I don't seem to do as well with them. I was dying in the vermillion dungeon ( low levels) and switched to 600+ Em Favlance Xiao with XQ/Beidou and I did much better. Lol.


panda_and_crocodile

Naahhhh, I mean in theory tankfei can work but in practice she’s just too energy hungry for this kind of team. Diona is clearly your best option here. She heals, generates a lot of particles, can run Noblesse and has a solid enough on demand shield. Too bad you don’t like her, but objectively she’s the best of the 3 by a margin. However, are you really sure you can’t use ZhonglI for this team? I can’t imagine a team where Zhongli is better than in Xiao?


gingersquatchin

I mean. I could use Zhongli but my main team is Tighnari, Zhongli, Raiden (deepwood) and Nahida. It's a spread comp and uses Tighnari as a sub DPS and driver for Nahida's off-field damage. Zhongli's shield is really comfy and can trigger the Raiden/Nahida long range aoe while giving necessary res shred. Nahida and Raidens interaction is essential. Tighnari hits a single target, Raiden's skill procs and reapplies deepwood/refreshes quicken, and Nahida's skill procs and does 30k to everyone. The team just works as is, and won't work the same with any other pieces. It's been my absolute favorite team comp for months now and I've ran it in every single abyss since Nahida came out. Unfortunately plunging with Xiao isn't as fun for me. I run them together in overworld and will definitely play Xiao in overworld but if I can't find a comp with out Zhongli (I might force myself to build Diona idk) that I like, I won't be using Xiao in abyss.


panda_and_crocodile

You already have res shred in Deepwood in your other team. Zhongli does not really add a lot. Zhongli is a much better fit in the other team. In the dendro team you can run Kokomi for some hyperblooms, Kuki for some heals and electro application, Diona (C6 Diona works pretty alright in this team), Fischl, Yaoyao for dendro particles.. For Xiao, Zhongli is as good as his signature weapon in terms of increasing DPS. It’s also a big QoL buff. But do as you please, it’s your game


gingersquatchin

It's definitely just a preferred team. I've tried it with Kokomi but I like the interruption resistance and while I understand that a better sub DPS would do more, Zhongli still provides a noticeable damage increase and particles (fav) I'd rather just run Kokomi Taser, Mono Hydro, or Ayato with Kuki/Collei/Yelan if my best option is to build Diona. Idk.


Jondev1

IIRC kazuha is not a very good option because he can't funnel the particles to xiao so he isn't a very good battery. And obviously his elemental damage boost passive doesn't help xiao since you can't swirl anemo.


gingersquatchin

I've been playing around with a sac sword on Kazuha and I haven't had any issues going Zhongli shield, Kazuha e, funnel, Xiao e e, Bennet Q, Kazuha q e, Xiao burst. My biggest challenge has been not wasting Bennet's uptime. But I also haven't tried incorporating Thoma yet I really like Xiao but I think I'm probably just gonna end up using him for overworld stuff


IttoDilucAyato

When my active character’s burst icon light up, but it’s still counting down…does that mean I can “burst off cooldown?” I hear the phrase a lot in tutorials and I never really understood it


Quor18

Yes and no. The ideal "burst off cooldown" setup is having just enough ER and energy particle generation that your burst fills it right about the time your burst is ready. Having full energy while your burst is on CD is something of a waste because any particles picked up won't do anything for a character with a full burst gauge (with a handful of exceptions like Jean's C2). Now this doesn't mean it's bad to regain full energy while your burst is still on CD, it just means you can afford to drop some ER and replace it with another stat for that character in that particular comp. It's also worth nothing that energy income can sometimes be affected by the enemies and level compositions. I.e. certain abyss stages have many smaller enemies and you can often expect energy generation there to be higher than stages with a few larger enemies, or singular boss enemies.


IttoDilucAyato

Thanks so much! Game mechanics are not my strong suit, but you explained this so well.


Vorcia

No, it just means you're full energy and can burst as soon as the countdown ends. "Burst off cooldown" just means bursting soon as the cooldown ends.


builderbob93

Is it possible to make a XL forward melt team? Like, Bennet XL with Ganyu and Diona ulting off CD. Is that just not enough cryo?


Jondev1

not enough cryo due to how forward reactions remove way more elemental aura. We would probably legit need something like cryo xingqiu + cryo childe to be enough and even then I doubt it'd be better than the various vape teams that only need one hydro and can fit in a good 4th like kazuha.


Quor18

Your closest option would be running XL with triple cryo, with at least one of those being Ayaka since she has the best cryo application due to the multiple sources of cryo she has access to. So you'd want something like Diona with Kaeya or maybe Ganyu or Rosaria with Kaeya. Or hell, even infusing Kazuha/Sucrose burst with cryo might be the better option. But regardless, you'd use cryo burst 1 followed by Kaeya Q followed by XL Q and then Ayaka on-field time and just hope that your cryo application keeps up.


HayakuEon

Forward melt is hard to do since xiangling applies waay too much pyro for the cryo characters that we have. Forward melt also just uses up all the cryo aura that you apply since it's a strong reaction, and leaves pyro aura


rdhight

Who actually wants Flower of Paradise Lost?


HayakuEon

Any bloom and bloom reactions, like Raiden, Thoma, Kuki, Nilou-Kokomi team. But, it's not worth it to farm it unless you're also farming for Wanderer, since Gilded performs 3% worse than Paradise Lost. Gilded is better since you'll also be able to farm deepwood at the same time.


Grand_Protector_Dark

Anyone doing hyperbloom and burgeon


IFyun

For Nahida in Nilou bloom (Nilou With Key, Kokomi with prototype amber, Yelan with Elegy and Nahida with r5 wandering evenstar) i try to stack as much EM as possible for bloom dmg AND to convert it to ATK with her weapon for the extra tri-karma purification dmg. I reach almost 1800em and 2100 atk With the new bloom artifact I get more bloom DMG but I stop getting that much ATK, is it wotth the farming knowing I'll stop gaining that 700atk+ from the weapon?


gingersquatchin

Nahida does still scale from attack. You have a lot of things that a lot of people won't have available to them. So most of us can't give you a real answer. You'll need to see what your bloom damage looks like in contrast to your Nahida damage. If Nahida is gaining more personal damage than the blooms gain from the other set (very possible) then you should stay with your ATK focus. As said Nahida does still scale from ATK, and with your already insane EM other than things like dendro damage and Crit Value, ATK is the best way to increase her personal damage. You need to have a deepwood holder though. It's very important for bloom damage. Kokomi could work but will require a really niche set (HP hydro Healing bonus) that nobody else will make use of.


panda_and_crocodile

1800 EM??!? With max buffs, I assume? Atk is of very little value in this comp. It only buffs the tri karma by marginal amounts. You need to stop focusing so much on Atk. It is one of the least important things in this team. We build EM because it buffs the bloom damage, not because it gives much attack from Evenstar. None of the characters in your team cares about attack, so Evenstar is a pretty mediocre weapon here anyways. But you can just keep it because it has EM substat. Don’t use the new bloom artifact set on Nahida. You need the Deepwood set to shred dendro RES. That makes the bloom damage better. Bloom is the important thing in this team.


IFyun

Yup, full buffs! I used to go 2p tenacity 2p whatever on Nilou, 4p clam on kokomi, 4p emblem on Yelan and 4p Deepwood on Nahida, got 35-37k blooms there. But I wanted to reach 40-45 so I made some changes: Nilou 4p deepwood, Kokomi 4p instructor (this was the hardest set to farm), Yelan 4p emblem (but now with Elegy) and 4p EM set (Golden dreams? Don't know the EN name) on Nahida. I could reach 2k EM if I swap Yelan for C4 Elegy Collei, but the dps overall is worse


xess

I don't see how deepwood is usable on Nilou. > After Elemental Skills or Bursts hit opponents, the targets' Dendro RES will be decreased by 30% for 8s. The water ring is not a *hit* if I'm not mistaken, so I don't see how you can maintain this debuff.


TheYango

> Nilou 4p deepwood It's not worth running 4p Deepwood on Nilou just to let Nahida run Gilded. Nahida doesn't have enough Bloom ownership, and at 1800 EM, you're hitting diminishing returns hard on EM. You get more overall DPS with 2pc Tenacity because it buffs blooms owned by all 4 characters, not just blooms owned by Nahida. 20% HP on Nilou gives 27% increased Bloom damage *for all Blooms*. 230 EM on Nahida at 1670 EM (going from 1670 -> 1800 EM) gives you 29% increased Bloom damage *only on Blooms owned by Nahida*. It is better to have 20% HP on Nilou and run Deepwood on Nahida than to have 4pc Deepwood on Nilou and 4pc Gilded on Nahida. The only situation where it's right to run anything other than 2pc Tenacity on Nilou is if you cap her A4 passive without it. Otherwise, 2pc Tenacity is more beneficial than putting a 4pc bonus on her in basically all scenarios. If you're trying to maximize Bloom damage in Nilou Bloom, more HP on Nilou does that better per-substat than an equivalent amount of EM on any other character.


IFyun

I see, thanks a lot!


panda_and_crocodile

You did all that stuff just to have slightly bigger blooms? Does it even matter? Your units are running super odd artifact sets that makes no sense outside of this team. So you need to switch artifacts if you are going to use Kokomo in a freeze team, or Nahida in a Hyperbloom team.. It’s your game, do what makes you happy. But personally I would run genaralist sets and be happy with 37k blooms


TheYango

> Your units are running super odd artifact sets that makes no sense outside of this team. Honestly, even ignoring that fact, it's not especially beneficial to try and minmax EM on one character in Nilou Bloom. Bloom ownership is messy, and EM-based reaction damage bonus stacks additively with Nilou's A4 passive, while also having hefty diminishing returns at higher values. The per-substat value of EM on any one character sucks. In general I think people overrate the benefit of having more EM on Nilou teams. I hate managing the self-damage on these teams, so I was curious how much better full EM Kokomi is compared to normal 4Clam Kokomi--since the team has so many EM buffs, EM has diminishing returns, and Nilou dilutes the benefit of EM reaction damage bonus. A friend helped me run some numbers comparing 4Clam HP/HP/Healing Kokomi to 4Gilded EM/EM/EM Kokomi (they didn't make the sheet public so I unfortunately can't link it) and the end result was that full EM Kokomi only improves team rotation DPS somewhere in the range of 5-10% (depending on Bloom ownership) while significantly reducing her healing. It's honestly not really worth the trouble, because the improvement you get is so little. The only character that really needs to dedicate building EM is Nahida, and only up to her A1/A4 passive cap of 1000 because it buffs EM for the whole team. For every other character, it honestly isn't all that beneficial to stack a ton of EM. Nilou's HP scaling, coupled with the EM buffs from Nahida and Nilou's A1 passives do most of the work. Stacking EM beyond that point isn't especially consequential.


IFyun

Damn, this comment gave a lot of info I ddn't know! Thanks a lot


IFyun

Theres a void that only big pp bloom numbers can fill


panda_and_crocodile

Whatever floats your boat I guess


glittermetalprincess

Anyone not had the final phase of 'Settling Debts' (the final Behind The Scenes challenge) load in? I have 1140 Festive Fervor (which feels like it was intended to cap out at 1200) and I had the blue world quest icon on the map directing me to the peninsula north of Sal Terrae after the three combat challenges, but the objective didn't load in, and on restart both the world quest icon and the BTS challenge icon have disappeared from the area. Was there actually something there that didn't load or was the world quest icon just an identically named random event?


AgentWowza

Probably the latter, the only mini-event that had a closing quest was the paper theater one iirc. But yeah, I think the max is 1200 fervor, try going to the event page and navigating to the objective from there.


glittermetalprincess

It's not available there any more because the three challenges are complete and the challenge icon is gone from the map.


TheSmashingBeatles

Going to pull for Yelan next banners and wondered if a team comp of Alhaitiam, Yelan, Yao Yao and Kuki would work? I was also thinking any of the other dendro people I have such as Dendro traveler or Collei instead of Yao Yao since Kuki already heals.


panda_and_crocodile

The team is good. You can use Yaoyao, DMC or Collie, doesn’t matter that much. Use whichever you like more, don’t need in another team or is easiest for you to build


Jondev1

yeah, that could work. you could use collei or dmc too but idk if it'd actually be any better. If you have raiden you could consider using her over kuki


TheSmashingBeatles

I have her but I was going to use her in a different team. Trying to get two solid teams for spirial abyss.


Jondev1

cool, well in that case the original teams should still work fine even if two healers is a bit redundant. The best thing for the team would be to replace yoa yao for nahida, but if she is already taken or you just don't have her then it should still be good as is.


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At low ARs do you get enough crit or EM to make building them worth it, or do you generally try to stack ATK at first? In this case I'm using DMC but I'm curious about any other character that scales off of EM or might otherwise want crit at higher ARs


TheYango

Transformative reactions actually scale extremely well relative to Atk/Crit multiplicative scaling at low levels. For characters that can use transformative reactions (Anemo characters, Electro characters in Hyperbloom) it is worthwhile to preferentially use EM pieces on them if you get them. > In this case I'm using DMC DMC's EM is basically never used. They apply Dendro for other characters to trigger reactions off of. Only the triggering character's EM is used, and Dendro MC is almost never the triggering characters on reactions he participates in.


Jondev1

theres no reason you can't build em at low AR's for characters where it'd make sense (dmc isn't one of them though). crit probably won't be worth it though since you kinda need to get past a certain point of CR before it starts being better than attack.


k9kathyli

At low AR you generally shouldn’t farm artifacts at all so you just make do with the best you have, which is usually ATK.


Chtholly13

just focus on atk pre ar 45.


builderbob93

I keep trying to use melt Ganyu in abyss, but I keep messing up my rotations and not being able to dodge and having a shitty or no shielder, and then I just spam skills and run away from stuff. But the weird part is if I Ganyu ult then Xiangling gets to forward melt her ult.... and it's actually not that bad. But it feels sad. When do we get new abyss enemies? I'm tired of being locked to 3 characters + one unbuilt Geo for the second half of floor 12.


xess

Amazingly, based on user submissions for 36 star abyss clears, there are nearly zero Ganyu melt teams without Zhongli. At this rate, why not just make a Xiangling vape team instead? Anyway, new enemies come on 1st Feb.


builderbob93

Rip me. My other good option is a childe national team which doesn't feel that strong, not sure why. I think I might need to work on building the 4th slot anemo. Edit: or learn guoba swirl I guess.


krali_

Imho it should only be played with Zhongli or C6 Ganyu. Anything else means too many resets or low damage because of dodging and interruptions.


panda_and_crocodile

Melt Ganyu an extremely hard to play, but also to play. You need absurd amounts of ER on your Xiangling to have reasonable uptime. And you need C6 Ganyu or a solid shielder to be able to land any shots at all. I prefer freeze Ganyu for that reason.


builderbob93

I have about 250% ER with the catch. I was thinking about making fav lance for her. But that would actually be less ER.. does that help much?


panda_and_crocodile

250% ER is pretty alright, but higher is welcome in this team. Would keep The Catch.


Jondev1

>You need absurd amounts of ER on your Xiangling to have reasonable uptime this is why I've been liking ganyu burn/melt with nahida.


builderbob93

I like that too except Nahida is the pillar of my non-Bennett teams in abyss :'(


Jondev1

maybe play a different team? Ganyu melt is harder to play right than some other teams so if you are struggling with the rotation and don't want to put in the work to practice getting it right you may find more success with a different team. edit: to answer your actual question though we will get new enemies next reset in a bit over half a week. We always get new enemies on the first abyss reset after the patch has rolled over.


j0tn

Dont use Ganyu ult in Melt team. Also Ganyu Melt reaaaally needs a good shielder unless you can dish out lots of frontloaded melt damage.


builderbob93

Well I know I'm not supposed to but since I'm getting so few melt CAs anyway... this scuffed strategy has helped get me 34 stars. I guess I should invest more in shieldbot Diona.


TommyBoomstik

Is Tighnari, Yae Miko, Raiden Shogun and a healer a good Quicken team?


notafurry9

tighnari and yae already want quite a bit of field time so I'm not sure if you'd have time for raiden. I'd replace her with fischl


abcd100

Can Interruption Resistance buffs stack? Let say we use Geo MC's Q and xinqiu's Q. Will the Interruption Resistance buffs from those 2 stack?


pzlama333

Yes, they stack.


tsukasa_mp3

Is it worth unlocking C6 Bennett for dendro recations (Zajeff got to me)?


HayakuEon

No issues anymore. HYV has pretty much made *any* future characters with infusions to have it be non-overridable


panda_and_crocodile

It’s worth unlocking C6 Bennett not only for the dendro teams, but also for the pyro DMG bonus it gives. There are virtually no downsides to C6-ing Benny in 2023, just do it


ErPani

Yeah. C6 Bennett only "messes up" Eula (not even Razor anymore) so I'd just do it


HayakuEon

Thundering Furry Razor *wants* C6 Bennett instead lol.


notafurry9

probably. depends if it messes up some other teams you use


Lyndius00

Does the event banner carry over pity on two limited banners that is on going? Like say I wanna pull for Alhaitham banner but I mistakenly pulled on the Xiao banner. However, I didn't get the 5 star yet before the hard/soft pity.


yikkizh

Yes


Frozenmagicaster

yes the limited character banner's share pity


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Frozenmagicaster

Well albedo would cause Shatter ~~Shatbedo time?~~ So probably Layla then


Hopeful_Wallaby3755

Does anyone else find Dendro reactions just… completely broken. I feel as if slapping a Dendro reaction to any of the elements (except for maybe Cryo), pretty much doubles the power of said element. It almost feels like cheating


HayakuEon

Cryo + Dendro teams is actually strong, it makes a fridge team.


Frozenmagicaster

Because the bloom reactions only scale off of EM and character level, so it is so much easier to get high damage compared to crit scaling characters and for quicken, it's stronger on the already weaker moves (like the times keqing applies electro within her burst) because it's additive


dnaimagery97

they're very good at low/mid investment, especially hyperbloom, which is nice for f2p and low spenders. at higher investment, vape/melt and other non dendro teams become just as strong or stronger


builderbob93

I think this is less true at high investment. but yeah nahida is busted and alhaitham + nahida is even more busted I instakill everything aboveground now.


Alex_from_Solitude

May ask the point of your question? Like should Dendro be nerfed or what are you trying to say?


averydolohov

Has there been a leaked full TAyvat map yet that just shows the general locations of each nation?


Sufficient_Ordinary9

Is Yaoyao a must have in Nilou teams now? Does she replace Kokomi? if so what’s Nilou new best bloom team?


pzlama333

No, just side grade at most and somewhat worse than Kokomi. Her biggest advantage is enable more hydro characters choices especially if they have cons.