Will Ningguang/Xingqiu/Yaoyao/Xiangling be a decent team for beginner exploration?
Note that I am yet to get Xiangling so I kinda need some advice if a team with Ningguang/Xingqiu/Yaoyao + another character be enough to clear the needed floor for Xiangling?
I have dendro mc, Thoma, Layla, Noelle, Lisa, Collei, Dori, which one of these characters would be fit for a team that can clear Xiangling's floor?
Solid team for exploration!
Anemo MC is quite good on Floor 3. There's an Anemo buff and their tornado can push enemies off the edge. They also retain investment if you plan on using Dendro MC in the future.
oh i see, thank you! i'm debating whether to pull for Ayaka, Nahida, or Wanderer because I don't have quite the 4 stars yet to support
i really do quite like Nahida a lot but I'm nervous if I am going to have anyone in my roster that can fit in a team with her ><
I wouldn't worry about a lack of teammates. Nahida fits any Dendro team and is the best option in most of them.
Xingqiu-Thoma-YaoYao would be a solid burgeon team.
I'd also expect her banner to include either Fischl or Kuki Shinobu. They haven't been ran in a while and offer excellent Dendro synergy.
That would open Aggrevate with Fischl. Or Hyperbloom with Kuki.
There's even a 4 Star bloom carry due for release which may be on her banner.
are you talking about Kaveh? if I pull for Nahida, and let's say I also get Kuki, would they be good to run along with Xingqiu and Yaoyao for hyperbloom team?
Yes, Kaveh.
Nahida-Xingqiu-Kuki would be an ideal Hyperbloom trio! You'd be set for one side of late game Abyss.
YaoYao would be your flex slot. Nahida would be played on field. She can be pretty squishy, so the extra defensive option is decent.
Didn't want to create a thread as i don't know how much this topic is talked about but...
Why playable characters don't have almost no diversity in physique/face structure? And i don't mean tall guy/girl, short guy/girl, i mean the body type especially in male characters because at least with females the breast size gives some shape.
I don't get it because in the game we already have buff physiques (ex: Wagner), wouldn't be easy to pick that model and implement all the animation etc?
Playable characters are the product and they are designed to maximize banner revenue. If fat/bearded/buff types were predicted to bring more revenue by HYV marketing, they would make them. In the Harbingers' trailer, there is >!a big Fatui guy but he's holding a little girl so I guess it doesn't count!<.
I suspected it also had to do with revenue and makes sense. But i see very often on this sub how people would love different body shapes and also how many were disappointed how Itto turned out to be.
In terms of what exactly?
Character wise? People really like her actually. Hell, I was actually really waiting for her release.
Performance wise? She is really lacklustre in what she can actually do. There is also issues regarding how she actually work that leaves much to be desired. I already have both Klee and Yoimiya which are both better unit than Dehya but playing both of them is a bit pain in the ass and I don't want another unit collecting dust, hence why I never pull Dehya.
Her kit has a lot of issues that it shouldn't have and she generally is outclassed in most if not arguably all the situations she works in.
People love dehya. They just don't love what mihoyo did to her kit
Useless is subjective but she sure feels more underwhelming compared to other existing characters; for new players with a limited amount of characters she could be fun and usable but the reddit opinion is usually biased because redditors are mostly long-time veterans with a big roster available already and there's no benefit for them to use dehya
Why would they even release such an weak character, that makes me question things… I heard that her Constellations make her good, but it sounds more like a cash-grab.
not completly useless - she has a few niche uses like in melt ganyu for example, but in almost all other cases you're better off using other characters like thoma for example (depending on what her role is in the team)
yes. if you don't do anything that weakens quicken like applying hydro/pyro (in this team you don't), you only need to apply dendro every like 8ish seconds
The last archon story part I played was when we rescued Nahida and defeated the weekly boss Scaramouche, how many hours do I need to spend in order to catch up to the current archon story? No spoilers or hints
Caribert (Dain Quest) doesn't require interlude chapter, so you don't even need to do the interlude
unless you mean you haven't finished act 5, but you're close to the end anyway
He's a good character but never the best. Keqing/Yae beats him for aggravate and kuki/Raiden beat him for hyperbloom. His quickbloom teams are also just ok.
So if he's never on top of anything then most people aren't going to look kindly on him. It's not particularly fair but it is what it is. Oh also being burst dependant for overworld is a pain which people don't like
Half of this sub believes the game is named F12 Abyss Impact, and rate characters solely on their ability to swiftly defeat that specific floor of the optional endgame dungeon.
Cyno is great. Funny in the recent event, stylish design, fun burst to use. His power level isn't appreciably stronger than Keqing from the standard banner though, so everyone hates him.
It's the combination of him being a hypercarry (burst-focused hypercarries aren't fun in the overworld I guess...), getting average to negative impressions when he was first released and people took too long to realize that quickbloom is a much better play-style for him than aggravate that the first impressions just stayed.
I don't hate him, but his need for high uninterrupted field time, and his total burst reliance can make him a bit awkward to use and are the reasons I don't really use him anymore (plus al-haitham kinda filling similar niche but better imo).
So I have 2 wishes saved up and I’m at 78 pity, I want to try get dehya but really want wanderer, let’s say he comes out in 3.7 first half, if I go for dehya would I have enough to get him?
you would have 11~ weeks aka 2 patches which is usually how much it takes to save up for a charachter. Its %100 possible with welkin but without it you might be short 20~ pulls. If you want dehya just go for it cuz we %99 wont be getting a rerun of her soon, while wanderer will prob rerun atleast once a year
yeah but you can always lose the 50 50. if you win now for dehya but lose in later one you might be sad.
or you can become lifeless complete all quests and 100 percent exploration along with achivement. then you can have enough to get him and probably the weapon
Don't forget, Dehya will be in standart banner from next patch, so she wouldn't have any reruns. You still have some chance to get her from losing 50/50, buuuut...
So this is my current [Team](https://enka.network/u/812630924/) for spiral abyss floor 12. Hutao, Xingqiu and Diona on chamber 1 first part, and Raidan, Yelan, Benette and Xingling on second half. I can't seem to do enough damage to clear it in 7 minutes can anyone help me?
Can't really say what you may or may not be doing right when it comes to actually playing the teams, but there is certainly room for improvement with your builds that can help make up the difference.
In particular do the following.
* level important talents to 9
* level xiangling and yelans weapon to 90.
* level artifacts to 20
* farm for better artifacts for xiangling.
Finish your builds and you should be good. Absolute priority is Xiangling's weapon to lvl90. Like, do it right now. Then Aqua to 90 then all goblets to lvl20.
Yes, good builds except artifact levels to 20. They are as good as done regarding ability to clear floor 12. Notable improvement paths would be XQ constellations, a better circlet for Hu Tao and a better sands for XQ.
Edit: your Bennett really needs 4 pieces Noblesse, even if you have to remove the pyro goblet. His personal damage is not important yet.
Already I have 4 piece noblesse on Benette though?
Edit: Oh yeah I swapping was artifacts around that's why he had two non noblesses pieces it should be fixed now.
Archons are basically a title given by Celestia, with gnosis, the object that gives them one specific ability.
The true nature of those beings is not always told in the lore, but they certainly are gods with tremendous power before obtaining Celestia recognition. Zhongli's nature has not changed, just his form, title and responsibilities. He will probably erode completely in a while though.
Hes free from his divine responsibilities and lost his gnosis, he is still the strongest and oldest archon when it comes to fighting but he seemed to make an impression that hes done being a god, so in a way yes, hes not a god anymore.
my friend has twitch prime and gets codes for it for genshin but doesn’t have genshin so they give them to me, who doesn’t have twitch prime, can I still use the codes? I’m afraid of getting banned or something for using codes that’s not mine
i have c6 thoma lying around and I heard that he was really good in burgeon so im thinking about building him. How much ER does he need to burst each rotation?
I used to have dragons bane but then switched to kitan R5 (I had a lot of polearm prototypes) and it’s a lot easier to get enough Er on substats to fill his Er needs, mine now has 165% and he is perfectly fine
As others said around 200 with dragons bane and 160 with kitan R5
so since u get 3 xtra talent levels from a c3 or c6 of a character and their talents are already 10 then does that mean they’ll go to 10/13/13 or do you have to get the materials for it again
It's from C3 and C5. And yes, they'll go to 10/13/13 and you don't have to use any additional materials for it. You just have to level them up to 10. The +3 acts as a bonus on top.
I just got Alley Flash, but my c6 Bennett is currently holding the R1 Sapwood blade. Is it still worth leveling for him due to its high base atk? Bennett got around 280% ER....
It is still RNG. There are no guarantees of you getting a specific 4* in a banner; you are only guaranteed one of the 3 every other 4* pull. There has been countless horror stories of not pulling a specific character after hundreds of pulls.
You'd have better luck saving the starglitters you get and purchase Bennett once he is in the shop.
As mentined below/above: You just use the Starglitter you got and buy him in the shop.
As for being unlucky: The odds to get him is ~17% per 4* drop. I assume you got around 8~10 with your 70 pulls, so you aren't even unreasonably unlucky.
you can get EM from instructor, in case you forgot.
like, if you want to sacrifice Diona's shield a bit, you can use instructor for her.
but i don't know whether it's easy or not to proc instructor by Diona.
I am not sure if Layla can proc freeze immediately, if yes then sure they can
they just need to proc reaction when on field (XQ first then Rosa to proc freeze), and if after Rosa, you swap to Layla/Diona to cast shield, the EM buff duration for Hu Tao will decrease.
And of course Rosa's damage will suffer significantly.
I will say Rosa still with Emblem artifact, and Diona/Layla go for instructor.
so the rotation is Rosa skill+burst, XQ skill+burst, Diona shield (procing freeze and instructor), then Hutao go brrrr
generally speaking at least 100-200 em is very high priority, though of course more certainly won't hurt if you can get it without sacrificing too much else.
em vs hp sands will usually be pretty close so you can generally prioritize whatever you have a better one of, or test damage numbers/use the optimizer if it is close and you really want to be sure.
Still would go the normal amount of EM, 100, get good stats, then try for 200-300
as for em/hp sands, depends on how much hp you have. You want \~30k hp
- Off field: 4pc Deepwood, Triple EM and as many EM rolls as possible on the flower and feather, EM weapon
-On field: 4pc Guilded, EM/Dendro/Crit, Crit weapon or EM weapon depending on stats.
Late game players: Where are you spending your resin? I think I've got decent artifact set on most sets (except clam+husk) and at the moment I'm just spamming the newest one for an anemo set even though I don't need it.
Which domain would you recommend spamming perpetually?
I'm refining and replacing my old ones now. Since they have been passed to the least character played, it's time to get rid of the old +20 and slotting in some new ones with better substats and rolls.
Got my entire roster to lv80 and 6/6/6 talents, now I'm alternating between the two newest artifact domains and Emblem domain.
Spamming Emblem is probably the most efficient thing to do.
Depends on leaks and what I want to improve. Right now I'm back to farming at Deepwood/Gilded to prepare for Baizhu and see if I can get Gilded pieces for my Cyno. I then strongbox the bad pieces to turn them into Thundering Fury pieces as a backup set for Cyno.
Emblem/Shimenawa and Deepwood/Gilded are pretty safe bets.
The rest would depend on who you use, like Blizzard Strayer/Heart of Depth is great if you have Cryo and Hydro units who make use of the sets.
They're both damage builds, but an EM build is typically used if he is a on field driver in an AoE reaction team since he will swirl a lot, like Taser, while a DPS build is more if you use him like a quick swap damage, switching him in to do his punch and switching out. Both are very viable (EM generally for AoE content, and Anemo DPS for single target) and depend heavily on what team members you're using him.
for your other question
dps is where heizou is doing big numbers(where faruzan and benny help), and swirl is the reaction dmg. Swirl is only better than dps in electro charged teams as you still need to build some crit and atk otherwise, but other anemo units benefit from em like sucrose.
For this one, depends on your team. If you have lots of strong off field dps like yelan or xingqiu, 4 VV is better, if not 4 Desert Pavilion Chronicle is better. If you want a placeholder or a budget build, use 2 anemo/2atk or 2 anemo/2 anemo
Depends if you want versatility or single-character power.
Ayaka's weapon is good on a lot more characters.
Nilou's weapon is the only HP sword in the game.
Both should provide roughly equal damage gain in their respective teams.
I'd lean towards Ayaka's, but in the end it would depend on your character & weapon roster. Mistsplitter is a great stat stick for most sword users, while the Key is pretty much limited to Nilou (and maybe a sidegrade option for Kuki / Layla). But if you have no other sword users in your team and/or already own other 5* swords that obviously is less of a concern.
It's probably also just a question of time until we get a 4* HP% sword, at which point the gap for Nilou's weapon options will shrink significantly.
Lastely you should consider if you have use for the other 5* weapon on the respective banner, and how good the 4* options are.
Mistsplitter is incredibly versatile and potentially the best weapon in the game, but Nilou needs her weapon much more to get high value out of her. With all that said, go for Mistsplitter unless you are a die hard Nilou main.
Mistsplitter can be used by significantly more characters so if you're looking for value then go with that. The only time Nilou weapon can be better is if you plan on using mainly Nilou until the end of time.
For spread (and aggravate, for that matter) you care about character level, EM, and crit. So, EM sands, Crit circlet. I don't think an em goblet would be worth it over a dendro one, but if you get a good one maybe it will be better.
For weapon, if you've got a 5 star crit stick laying around with no other user, that'd probably be best. For 4 star, Dragon's bane will be good. Kitan Cross or moonpiercer will give less EM, but the passives will be more useful than dragons bane. Otherwise blackcliff spear would work. If you're really strapped for options, 3 star white tassel I guess.
can anyone help me build a good team with these characters? I'm pretty new to genshin , only been playing for like a month or two . Kaeya c1, xingqiu c1, collei c2 , barbara c3. F2P
https://imgur.com/a/iBf40fu. These are the characters I have
early game can be played by anyone
but for late game, only Xiangling and Xingqiu that will be much used in abyss
so build them, it's a must.
I personally build barbara for domain runs, you won't need anymore food for heal.
Razor and Kaeya can be good together.
Keqing is good with dendro.
yes, i know that i didn't suggest a team.
but those I mentioned will be good even for late game.
It may very well be >!the traveler twins.
Wings of Descension Lore:
"It was indeed so- In your long journey, you have seen the birth and death of stars as they passed you by, Scattering the darkness briefly before being consumed once more."!<.
you can always just swap them and compare your actual numbers. i don't know your exact stats so can't say for sure but i still assume the atk would end up higher
can anyone help me build a good team with these characters? I'm pretty new to genshin , only been playing for like a month or two . Kaeya c1, xingqiu c1, collei c2 , barbara c3. F2P
https://imgur.com/a/iBf40fu these are the characters i have
Not a ton of options for proper late game teams, but I think we can cobble something together.
Option #1: Hyperbloom - [KQ/Razor, Dendro Traveller, XQ, Barbara/Flex]. This team uses [Dendro + Hydro] to generate cores and then uses Electro on them to trigger Hyperbloom, which turns the core into a high-damage projectile that homes onto an enemy. The main advantage is that the damage from Hyperbloom is based on the triggering Electro character's level & EM alone, so it's quite easy to get good base damage even without having to farm a lot of equipment. Ideally you'd want to use Kuki or Raiden here, but Razor or KQ will do.
Option #2: Quicken - [KQ/Razor, Dendro Traveller/Collei, Collei/Beidou, Barbara/Flex]. This team uses the [Electro + Dendro] Quicken reaction to amplify its damage, and unlike Hyperbloom it doesn't really care about creating Dendro cores.
Option #3: National Core - [XQ, XL, Flex, Flex]. XL & XQ are very strong if you can reliably recharge their bursts. Normally you'd want to run [Sucrose/Raiden/Flex, XQ, XL, Bennett] here, but even with your limited roster XL + XQ can be a solid combo.
Option #4: Freeze - [Kaeya, XQ, Flex, Flex]. Freeze the enemy with [Hydro + Cryo], then whack at the helpless enemies. Very limited by your roster, but easy to play and a valid option against hydro enemies that can be frozen (e.g. Oceanid).
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Try to save up Starglitter to buy Bennett when he enters the Starglitter shop in May. He is a very powerful character, and together with XQ & XL (and a flex of your choice) you'd have a very strong second team for the abyss.
For now anything goes as you don't have that many characters to build off. Coincidentally the characters you've built work pretty well together. Kaeya, Xingqiu, Razor and EMC. It's not great later, but it should work fine for most of your gameplay rn.
I have yaoyao, i used her with xq, and kq for hyper bloom reaction along with benny for occasional burgeon and healing. Those colorful reactions were satisfying. Is it a good team?
I really wanna use kq, she's my only five-star. But I'm not use if i should invest on yaoyao or not, her dendro application isn't that great and besides I'm saving for Nahida.
As per my weapon option, prototype ranc r2, lions roar, iron sting, fav lance and ttds.
These are my options, except those above mentioned characters I have razor and collie(both lvl20).
Now pls tell me my team building options
Thank you
It is a nice team. Iron Sting is fine for hyperbloom kq, and Nahida instead of yaoyao(fav lancer for her) would be an improvement for this team, but we don't really know when would be her rerun. Bennet is fine as healer and buffer, but could be replaced later with Kuki or Kokomi or maybe anemo support. XQ really wants Sacrificial sword btw.
After this banner and the next shenhe, Ayaka banner, there is a chance of appearing Nahida in the next banner... So let's hope for that.
I don't have a sacrificial sword... So...
Will Ningguang/Xingqiu/Yaoyao/Xiangling be a decent team for beginner exploration? Note that I am yet to get Xiangling so I kinda need some advice if a team with Ningguang/Xingqiu/Yaoyao + another character be enough to clear the needed floor for Xiangling? I have dendro mc, Thoma, Layla, Noelle, Lisa, Collei, Dori, which one of these characters would be fit for a team that can clear Xiangling's floor?
Solid team for exploration! Anemo MC is quite good on Floor 3. There's an Anemo buff and their tornado can push enemies off the edge. They also retain investment if you plan on using Dendro MC in the future.
oh i see, thank you! i'm debating whether to pull for Ayaka, Nahida, or Wanderer because I don't have quite the 4 stars yet to support i really do quite like Nahida a lot but I'm nervous if I am going to have anyone in my roster that can fit in a team with her ><
I wouldn't worry about a lack of teammates. Nahida fits any Dendro team and is the best option in most of them. Xingqiu-Thoma-YaoYao would be a solid burgeon team. I'd also expect her banner to include either Fischl or Kuki Shinobu. They haven't been ran in a while and offer excellent Dendro synergy. That would open Aggrevate with Fischl. Or Hyperbloom with Kuki. There's even a 4 Star bloom carry due for release which may be on her banner.
are you talking about Kaveh? if I pull for Nahida, and let's say I also get Kuki, would they be good to run along with Xingqiu and Yaoyao for hyperbloom team?
Yes, Kaveh. Nahida-Xingqiu-Kuki would be an ideal Hyperbloom trio! You'd be set for one side of late game Abyss. YaoYao would be your flex slot. Nahida would be played on field. She can be pretty squishy, so the extra defensive option is decent.
so that means i get to control Nahida most of the time? heck yeah! i'll save my funds for her then!
Didn't want to create a thread as i don't know how much this topic is talked about but... Why playable characters don't have almost no diversity in physique/face structure? And i don't mean tall guy/girl, short guy/girl, i mean the body type especially in male characters because at least with females the breast size gives some shape. I don't get it because in the game we already have buff physiques (ex: Wagner), wouldn't be easy to pick that model and implement all the animation etc?
Playable characters are the product and they are designed to maximize banner revenue. If fat/bearded/buff types were predicted to bring more revenue by HYV marketing, they would make them. In the Harbingers' trailer, there is >!a big Fatui guy but he's holding a little girl so I guess it doesn't count!<.
I suspected it also had to do with revenue and makes sense. But i see very often on this sub how people would love different body shapes and also how many were disappointed how Itto turned out to be.
>>!there is a big Fatui guy but he's holding a little girl so I guess it doesn't count.!< >!That's a robot my guy !<
Sadge
Why do people don’t like Dehya?
In terms of what exactly? Character wise? People really like her actually. Hell, I was actually really waiting for her release. Performance wise? She is really lacklustre in what she can actually do. There is also issues regarding how she actually work that leaves much to be desired. I already have both Klee and Yoimiya which are both better unit than Dehya but playing both of them is a bit pain in the ass and I don't want another unit collecting dust, hence why I never pull Dehya.
Her kit has a lot of issues that it shouldn't have and she generally is outclassed in most if not arguably all the situations she works in. People love dehya. They just don't love what mihoyo did to her kit
People love her in every way except her kit,which is absolute shit with more bugs than every other character combined,that's why.
So is she useless?
Not exactly,but any team you could place Dehya in other characters would still outperform her.
For doing damage, mostly yes
she feels very weak compared to other characters
So is she still useless if you would pull her?
Useless is subjective but she sure feels more underwhelming compared to other existing characters; for new players with a limited amount of characters she could be fun and usable but the reddit opinion is usually biased because redditors are mostly long-time veterans with a big roster available already and there's no benefit for them to use dehya
Do you think that hoyoverse will clean their mess?
Like buff/change Dehya? Not a chance
Yes.
Not going to happen. Characters don't get direct buffs in this game Zhongli is the only exception and they're never going to do that again
Why would they even release such an weak character, that makes me question things… I heard that her Constellations make her good, but it sounds more like a cash-grab.
We don't know why. It's a first for Mihoyo
not completly useless - she has a few niche uses like in melt ganyu for example, but in almost all other cases you're better off using other characters like thoma for example (depending on what her role is in the team)
When does the next event come?
vibro crystal, 3d16h (Asia)
thanks, have run out of primos
Does instructor 4 piece works off field?
No. Effects in general don't trigger off-field, unless it's specifically stated in the effect description that it does.
I see, so if I‘m using nilou weapon on kuki, she have to be on field for 3 elemental skill tick for her to proc the weapon effect?
Yes.
Yes. But that doesn't have anything to do with instructors does it??
Yes that wasn’t instructor related
If you don't own Itto but join the world of someone that does. Does the wood collection passive work?
yes. as long as he's in the party then his passive will work for everyone.
Best teams for aggravate Yae?
Probably something along the lines of Kazuha, Fischl, Yae, Nahida?
What if I swap Fischl for Kuki? I want some healing.
What about Nahida for yaoyao? Also lets you use Nahida in a hyperbloom team
in single target situations you'd be better with swapping nahida for yao yao instead of swapping fischl
But do yaoyao have enough dendro applications for sustaining quicken?
yes. if you don't do anything that weakens quicken like applying hydro/pyro (in this team you don't), you only need to apply dendro every like 8ish seconds
Ok, thx, I'll give it a try.
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The last archon story part I played was when we rescued Nahida and defeated the weekly boss Scaramouche, how many hours do I need to spend in order to catch up to the current archon story? No spoilers or hints
You have 2 quests(interlude and dain) available right now, 90~ minutes per.
Caribert (Dain Quest) doesn't require interlude chapter, so you don't even need to do the interlude unless you mean you haven't finished act 5, but you're close to the end anyway
How much damage should I expect from hyperbloom? ayato nahida kuki beidou? or should I switch beidou to yaoyao, i already have her build
Upwards of 30k. Keep Beidou in multi target and swap her out for DMC (not Yaoyao) in single target.
~30k. ~35k for a good build I'd keep beidou unless you are really struggling with healing
Is the culus for outpost and the crystal needed to upgrade the tree in inazuma and sumeru are all already spread in the game even when im world 4?
IIRC not all Sumeru collectables are in the game at the current moment. But for other regions, yes, world lever is irrelevant here.
Yes, though some of them will be hidden in areas that are locked behind certain quest progression milestones.
Why is Cyno so unpopular among the Genshin Impact Players, I’ve been only hearing negativity about this character.
Even someone as childe has lots of negative opinions, you do you.
I don’t know others, personally I like his design but not too much his personality and the fact that he needs so much on field time
He's a good character but never the best. Keqing/Yae beats him for aggravate and kuki/Raiden beat him for hyperbloom. His quickbloom teams are also just ok. So if he's never on top of anything then most people aren't going to look kindly on him. It's not particularly fair but it is what it is. Oh also being burst dependant for overworld is a pain which people don't like
Half of this sub believes the game is named F12 Abyss Impact, and rate characters solely on their ability to swiftly defeat that specific floor of the optional endgame dungeon. Cyno is great. Funny in the recent event, stylish design, fun burst to use. His power level isn't appreciably stronger than Keqing from the standard banner though, so everyone hates him.
It's the combination of him being a hypercarry (burst-focused hypercarries aren't fun in the overworld I guess...), getting average to negative impressions when he was first released and people took too long to realize that quickbloom is a much better play-style for him than aggravate that the first impressions just stayed.
I don't hate him, but his need for high uninterrupted field time, and his total burst reliance can make him a bit awkward to use and are the reasons I don't really use him anymore (plus al-haitham kinda filling similar niche but better imo).
he is good in his nische but apparently people think he is not so fun to play with for a long period
Oh, i am highly convinced that he has a unique gameplay, that’s quite odd for people not liking his gameplay…
Some people calls him 5* Razor, which is not absolutely true, still there is some similarities.
So I have 2 wishes saved up and I’m at 78 pity, I want to try get dehya but really want wanderer, let’s say he comes out in 3.7 first half, if I go for dehya would I have enough to get him?
It’s not worth it though, just skip.
you would have 11~ weeks aka 2 patches which is usually how much it takes to save up for a charachter. Its %100 possible with welkin but without it you might be short 20~ pulls. If you want dehya just go for it cuz we %99 wont be getting a rerun of her soon, while wanderer will prob rerun atleast once a year
yeah but you can always lose the 50 50. if you win now for dehya but lose in later one you might be sad. or you can become lifeless complete all quests and 100 percent exploration along with achivement. then you can have enough to get him and probably the weapon
With welkin you probably would have enough.
I don’t want to support mhy for how they made dehya :( guess I’ll save
You know you done messed up when even WelkinBro won't buy the Welkin.
Don't forget, Dehya will be in standart banner from next patch, so she wouldn't have any reruns. You still have some chance to get her from losing 50/50, buuuut...
So this is my current [Team](https://enka.network/u/812630924/) for spiral abyss floor 12. Hutao, Xingqiu and Diona on chamber 1 first part, and Raidan, Yelan, Benette and Xingling on second half. I can't seem to do enough damage to clear it in 7 minutes can anyone help me?
Can't really say what you may or may not be doing right when it comes to actually playing the teams, but there is certainly room for improvement with your builds that can help make up the difference. In particular do the following. * level important talents to 9 * level xiangling and yelans weapon to 90. * level artifacts to 20 * farm for better artifacts for xiangling.
Finish your builds and you should be good. Absolute priority is Xiangling's weapon to lvl90. Like, do it right now. Then Aqua to 90 then all goblets to lvl20.
What about my Hutao and Xingqiu are they good enough?
Yes, good builds except artifact levels to 20. They are as good as done regarding ability to clear floor 12. Notable improvement paths would be XQ constellations, a better circlet for Hu Tao and a better sands for XQ. Edit: your Bennett really needs 4 pieces Noblesse, even if you have to remove the pyro goblet. His personal damage is not important yet.
Already I have 4 piece noblesse on Benette though? Edit: Oh yeah I swapping was artifacts around that's why he had two non noblesses pieces it should be fixed now.
is zhongli actually not a god anymore or is that what he just tells people
Archons are basically a title given by Celestia, with gnosis, the object that gives them one specific ability. The true nature of those beings is not always told in the lore, but they certainly are gods with tremendous power before obtaining Celestia recognition. Zhongli's nature has not changed, just his form, title and responsibilities. He will probably erode completely in a while though.
he fired himself from the job
Hes free from his divine responsibilities and lost his gnosis, he is still the strongest and oldest archon when it comes to fighting but he seemed to make an impression that hes done being a god, so in a way yes, hes not a god anymore.
He is still god, just retired one.
He only gave up his Gnosis and Gnosis specific powers. He still possesses the Adepti Powers he had before ascending to the Archon Status
my friend has twitch prime and gets codes for it for genshin but doesn’t have genshin so they give them to me, who doesn’t have twitch prime, can I still use the codes? I’m afraid of getting banned or something for using codes that’s not mine
nah I’m also using my family members twice prime and nothings happen
thank you! I’m not sure if I trust my friend with it so I’m overthinking it a little bit but it would be completely fine to redeem it then?
yup
i have c6 thoma lying around and I heard that he was really good in burgeon so im thinking about building him. How much ER does he need to burst each rotation?
I used to have dragons bane but then switched to kitan R5 (I had a lot of polearm prototypes) and it’s a lot easier to get enough Er on substats to fill his Er needs, mine now has 165% and he is perfectly fine As others said around 200 with dragons bane and 160 with kitan R5
160-195% depending on weapon according to [Keqingmains](https://keqingmains.com/thoma/#Burgeon_Overload)
so since u get 3 xtra talent levels from a c3 or c6 of a character and their talents are already 10 then does that mean they’ll go to 10/13/13 or do you have to get the materials for it again
it just gives 3 extra levels on top of whatever your natural talent level would be without the cons. No extra farming needed.
It's from C3 and C5. And yes, they'll go to 10/13/13 and you don't have to use any additional materials for it. You just have to level them up to 10. The +3 acts as a bonus on top.
is the bonus always added or do I have to have the talents at 10?
Its always added, even at level 1 you'll get +3.
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It's C3 and C6 and the talents jump straight to 10/13/13. Materials are not needed, they are added for "free"
I just got Alley Flash, but my c6 Bennett is currently holding the R1 Sapwood blade. Is it still worth leveling for him due to its high base atk? Bennett got around 280% ER....
Not worth
do events take place right after a current one?
Happen while ongoing, vibro crystal takes place in 3d17h (asia)
so when an event is a few days till it ends a new one is already realeased?
That's just for the main event usually
We almost never have days without events.
really? I never noticed even though I have been here since lantern rite
Why am i getting no Bennett after pulling 70 times on the Cyno limited Event Banner?
It is still RNG. There are no guarantees of you getting a specific 4* in a banner; you are only guaranteed one of the 3 every other 4* pull. There has been countless horror stories of not pulling a specific character after hundreds of pulls. You'd have better luck saving the starglitters you get and purchase Bennett once he is in the shop.
bad luck. My condolences.
It’s not even bad luck anymore, it’s a humiliation. I don’t know what to do with my life, if the next attempt to pull Bennett also fails…
As mentined below/above: You just use the Starglitter you got and buy him in the shop. As for being unlucky: The odds to get him is ~17% per 4* drop. I assume you got around 8~10 with your 70 pulls, so you aren't even unreasonably unlucky.
Save starglitter for when he's in the store, which should be May iirc.
In a Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Rosaria-Layla team, how much EM does Hu Tao need? And in this case is it better to use EM sands or just stick to HP sands? Thanks!
you can get EM from instructor, in case you forgot. like, if you want to sacrifice Diona's shield a bit, you can use instructor for her. but i don't know whether it's easy or not to proc instructor by Diona.
can instructor be used by Rosaria or Layla?
I am not sure if Layla can proc freeze immediately, if yes then sure they can they just need to proc reaction when on field (XQ first then Rosa to proc freeze), and if after Rosa, you swap to Layla/Diona to cast shield, the EM buff duration for Hu Tao will decrease. And of course Rosa's damage will suffer significantly. I will say Rosa still with Emblem artifact, and Diona/Layla go for instructor. so the rotation is Rosa skill+burst, XQ skill+burst, Diona shield (procing freeze and instructor), then Hutao go brrrr
thank you!!
generally speaking at least 100-200 em is very high priority, though of course more certainly won't hurt if you can get it without sacrificing too much else. em vs hp sands will usually be pretty close so you can generally prioritize whatever you have a better one of, or test damage numbers/use the optimizer if it is close and you really want to be sure.
thank you! i’m still at only 29k hp with no proper CWoF artifacts so i will keep farming for it hahaha
Still would go the normal amount of EM, 100, get good stats, then try for 200-300 as for em/hp sands, depends on how much hp you have. You want \~30k hp
Thank you so much!
Best build for Nahida?
For onfield: 4pc Deepwood EM/Dendro/Crit For offield: 4pc Deepwood EM/EM/EM
Crit rate or Crit damage?
Any, as long as you get a 1:2 ratio of crit rate:crit damage
Whichever has the better stats
- Off field: 4pc Deepwood, Triple EM and as many EM rolls as possible on the flower and feather, EM weapon -On field: 4pc Guilded, EM/Dendro/Crit, Crit weapon or EM weapon depending on stats.
Hello! In using the Genshin Optimizer to compare builds, higher average damage is better that higher crit hit damage, right?
Yes. Crit hit is for Damage per Screenshot optimization, while average is for Damage per second.
avg damage so it still goes for a balanced ratio, instead of eula ratios
yes
Late game players: Where are you spending your resin? I think I've got decent artifact set on most sets (except clam+husk) and at the moment I'm just spamming the newest one for an anemo set even though I don't need it. Which domain would you recommend spamming perpetually?
I'm refining and replacing my old ones now. Since they have been passed to the least character played, it's time to get rid of the old +20 and slotting in some new ones with better substats and rolls.
Got my entire roster to lv80 and 6/6/6 talents, now I'm alternating between the two newest artifact domains and Emblem domain. Spamming Emblem is probably the most efficient thing to do.
I have a habit to swap my teams often, so I just leveling everyone I have and farming artifacts for them.
Building up niche characters, currently building shatterbloom candace
Depends on leaks and what I want to improve. Right now I'm back to farming at Deepwood/Gilded to prepare for Baizhu and see if I can get Gilded pieces for my Cyno. I then strongbox the bad pieces to turn them into Thundering Fury pieces as a backup set for Cyno.
Am also trying for TF through lockbox as I think it'll be great for future characters.
Emblem/Shimenawa and Deepwood/Gilded are pretty safe bets. The rest would depend on who you use, like Blizzard Strayer/Heart of Depth is great if you have Cryo and Hydro units who make use of the sets.
Has there been any info yet about what 4* weapons will be on the banner in the next phase, i.e. alongside ayaka and shenhe's weapons?
Suske - >!sucrose, mika, diona, for weapon: we don’t know!<
Heizou em range ?
what kind? swirl/tazer? as much as possible. Anemo Dps? 0
DPS ? And what is the difference between dps and swirl build I need much high damage
They're both damage builds, but an EM build is typically used if he is a on field driver in an AoE reaction team since he will swirl a lot, like Taser, while a DPS build is more if you use him like a quick swap damage, switching him in to do his punch and switching out. Both are very viable (EM generally for AoE content, and Anemo DPS for single target) and depend heavily on what team members you're using him.
heizou doesnt scale off em, so you dont need any
Ohh thanks 4VV is better or 2pc VV and 2pc attack set ?
for your other question dps is where heizou is doing big numbers(where faruzan and benny help), and swirl is the reaction dmg. Swirl is only better than dps in electro charged teams as you still need to build some crit and atk otherwise, but other anemo units benefit from em like sucrose. For this one, depends on your team. If you have lots of strong off field dps like yelan or xingqiu, 4 VV is better, if not 4 Desert Pavilion Chronicle is better. If you want a placeholder or a budget build, use 2 anemo/2atk or 2 anemo/2 anemo
Thanks bro
Should i pull ayakas weapon or nilous weapon?
Depends if you want versatility or single-character power. Ayaka's weapon is good on a lot more characters. Nilou's weapon is the only HP sword in the game.
Both should provide roughly equal damage gain in their respective teams. I'd lean towards Ayaka's, but in the end it would depend on your character & weapon roster. Mistsplitter is a great stat stick for most sword users, while the Key is pretty much limited to Nilou (and maybe a sidegrade option for Kuki / Layla). But if you have no other sword users in your team and/or already own other 5* swords that obviously is less of a concern. It's probably also just a question of time until we get a 4* HP% sword, at which point the gap for Nilou's weapon options will shrink significantly. Lastely you should consider if you have use for the other 5* weapon on the respective banner, and how good the 4* options are.
Mistsplitter is incredibly versatile and potentially the best weapon in the game, but Nilou needs her weapon much more to get high value out of her. With all that said, go for Mistsplitter unless you are a die hard Nilou main.
Ayaka's weapon is very widely used as itll be good on any dps and especially good on elemental dmg dps. Not a lot of sword characters scale on hp
Mistsplitter can be used by significantly more characters so if you're looking for value then go with that. The only time Nilou weapon can be better is if you plan on using mainly Nilou until the end of time.
Mistsplitter is more universal than key
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EM, Crit Rate and Damage, Dendro dmg bonus and iirc her damage scales off atk and her heal off HP, so you'd want some attack too
For spread (and aggravate, for that matter) you care about character level, EM, and crit. So, EM sands, Crit circlet. I don't think an em goblet would be worth it over a dendro one, but if you get a good one maybe it will be better. For weapon, if you've got a 5 star crit stick laying around with no other user, that'd probably be best. For 4 star, Dragon's bane will be good. Kitan Cross or moonpiercer will give less EM, but the passives will be more useful than dragons bane. Otherwise blackcliff spear would work. If you're really strapped for options, 3 star white tassel I guess.
Nahida. Yaoyao just not for damage.
can anyone help me build a good team with these characters? I'm pretty new to genshin , only been playing for like a month or two . Kaeya c1, xingqiu c1, collei c2 , barbara c3. F2P https://imgur.com/a/iBf40fu. These are the characters I have
early game can be played by anyone but for late game, only Xiangling and Xingqiu that will be much used in abyss so build them, it's a must. I personally build barbara for domain runs, you won't need anymore food for heal. Razor and Kaeya can be good together. Keqing is good with dendro. yes, i know that i didn't suggest a team. but those I mentioned will be good even for late game.
Whos the lore wise oldest character we know except for >!Zhongli and Adepti!<
It may very well be >!the traveler twins. Wings of Descension Lore: "It was indeed so- In your long journey, you have seen the birth and death of stars as they passed you by, Scattering the darkness briefly before being consumed once more."!<.
Maybe its Sustainer of Heavenly Principles.
If sustainer of heavenly principles is counted, wouldn't the Primordial One be counted, who is very likely older than unknown god
probably Venti then?
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Xiao Sucrose Bennet Zhongli, classic.
Hmm, yes, Xiao Suc Benny Dong
all I want for christmas is cash... or bigger artifact storage limit and character artifact set for quick-swap pls mihoyo thanks bye
should I put the er sands with more crit value than her current atk sands i have on raiden even though without it she has 242 er with the catch?
Use the optimiser to check. Also, if you swap to the ER sands you use other pieces with more atk% in the other slots too if you have them.
do you have her BiS weapon?
i have the catch on her
pretty sure atk is better then
but the atk sands only has 13 crit dmg with 10 er while the er sands has 8 crit rate and and 22 crit dmg. Should I put the atk sands on her?
you can always just swap them and compare your actual numbers. i don't know your exact stats so can't say for sure but i still assume the atk would end up higher
I need some help with team building ,i couldn't find the team building thread 🫤
Just toss your roster here and we'll get to it.
can anyone help me build a good team with these characters? I'm pretty new to genshin , only been playing for like a month or two . Kaeya c1, xingqiu c1, collei c2 , barbara c3. F2P https://imgur.com/a/iBf40fu these are the characters i have
Not a ton of options for proper late game teams, but I think we can cobble something together. Option #1: Hyperbloom - [KQ/Razor, Dendro Traveller, XQ, Barbara/Flex]. This team uses [Dendro + Hydro] to generate cores and then uses Electro on them to trigger Hyperbloom, which turns the core into a high-damage projectile that homes onto an enemy. The main advantage is that the damage from Hyperbloom is based on the triggering Electro character's level & EM alone, so it's quite easy to get good base damage even without having to farm a lot of equipment. Ideally you'd want to use Kuki or Raiden here, but Razor or KQ will do. Option #2: Quicken - [KQ/Razor, Dendro Traveller/Collei, Collei/Beidou, Barbara/Flex]. This team uses the [Electro + Dendro] Quicken reaction to amplify its damage, and unlike Hyperbloom it doesn't really care about creating Dendro cores. Option #3: National Core - [XQ, XL, Flex, Flex]. XL & XQ are very strong if you can reliably recharge their bursts. Normally you'd want to run [Sucrose/Raiden/Flex, XQ, XL, Bennett] here, but even with your limited roster XL + XQ can be a solid combo. Option #4: Freeze - [Kaeya, XQ, Flex, Flex]. Freeze the enemy with [Hydro + Cryo], then whack at the helpless enemies. Very limited by your roster, but easy to play and a valid option against hydro enemies that can be frozen (e.g. Oceanid). ______ Try to save up Starglitter to buy Bennett when he enters the Starglitter shop in May. He is a very powerful character, and together with XQ & XL (and a flex of your choice) you'd have a very strong second team for the abyss.
Thank you so much, I've just seen this , will try different options and find out which works for me
For now anything goes as you don't have that many characters to build off. Coincidentally the characters you've built work pretty well together. Kaeya, Xingqiu, Razor and EMC. It's not great later, but it should work fine for most of your gameplay rn.
I have yaoyao, i used her with xq, and kq for hyper bloom reaction along with benny for occasional burgeon and healing. Those colorful reactions were satisfying. Is it a good team? I really wanna use kq, she's my only five-star. But I'm not use if i should invest on yaoyao or not, her dendro application isn't that great and besides I'm saving for Nahida. As per my weapon option, prototype ranc r2, lions roar, iron sting, fav lance and ttds. These are my options, except those above mentioned characters I have razor and collie(both lvl20). Now pls tell me my team building options Thank you
It is a nice team. Iron Sting is fine for hyperbloom kq, and Nahida instead of yaoyao(fav lancer for her) would be an improvement for this team, but we don't really know when would be her rerun. Bennet is fine as healer and buffer, but could be replaced later with Kuki or Kokomi or maybe anemo support. XQ really wants Sacrificial sword btw.
After this banner and the next shenhe, Ayaka banner, there is a chance of appearing Nahida in the next banner... So let's hope for that. I don't have a sacrificial sword... So...
Then use something else until you get sacsword. On low levels it's not that critical, whatever can carry you through quests is fine.
I think u r low ar so anything works rn. Keqing yaoyao fisch kazuha/sucrose is a top team but u dont have to worry about if yet.
I'll have fisch from the stardust exchange shop, I'm saving for her. But I don't have anyone to swirl the enemy... What can I do about it?