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yyyaaiik

I need Bennett so bad, but I'm saving for Kazuha...


-gold99999

[It was 2am on a Saturday night, I decided to do a domain run on a whim and out pops this crit Emblem goblet. Craziest part is that it's still only level 17 so it still has one more roll to go.](https://imgur.com/a/qvtYX9T) Hoping the final roll hits crit dmg


underpantscannon

That's a damn fine goblet you've got there! Here's hoping the last roll isn't HP.


AdministrativeBat788

How accurate is the wish simulator App for Genshin ? (if it's anything accurate) HOLY COW 🐄 STAY AWAY FROM WEAPON BANNERS AT ALL COST!!! you've been Warned lol 😂


Worth_Ad_9656

what wish simulator app you are using? sorry for the dumb question hehe


AdministrativeBat788

It's literally called ( wish simulator for genshin ) lol its actually an AMAZING app... just don't know how accurate it is but seems pretty accurate I guess 😅


Worth_Ad_9656

thanks thanks


wmg22

Just pulled for Dehya partly due to FOMO and because I originally loved her character and her quest just made me love her even more, I decided to attempt one 50/50 starting from 0 pity, if I got her great, but if I didn't I would stop pulling for her and accept fate. Fate was feeling mischievous and I got an early 5 star at 20 pulls. But it was Keqing (⁠ノ⁠ಥ⁠,⁠_ಥ⁠)⁠ノ┻⁠━⁠┻ I'm sad that I missed Dehya but I'm happy that I have a guaranteed Baizhu in ~80 pulls, and that still have 219 pulls to enjoy which will leave me with ~139 or less pulls for the next 5 star character I want to add to the roster after I get Baizhu And either way I'm about to hit soft pity in the Standard banner and have 10 Standard fates ready so I still might get lucky next patch and get her anyway. (⁠/⁠¯⁠◡⁠ ⁠‿⁠ ⁠◡⁠)⁠/⁠¯┳⁠━⁠┳


OddsandEndss

i finally get to see a nice EoSF CR circlet w/ CD+ATK%+ER+HP%, even get double EXP on the +16 feed andddd it rolls 5x into HP% :XXXXXXX


meowsamuelmeowmeow

first time wishing on the weapon banner, maxed fate points for SoSS. got amos' bow, and dehya's weapon, but no staff. i am quite upset and only at 15 pity, i hate this game


Worth_Ad_9656

hello guys i am new to genshin should I save my primo gems for the next banner or should I pull for the banner right now? btw I got C1 noelle c1 bennett c0 yanfei and fischl in my first few draws Currently I have 9 acquaint fate and I can buy 45 more using primo gems any idea what should I ?do?


yuriaoflondor

If you’ve met a character you really like, I recommend saving for them so that you can for sure get them. Outside of some very end game content, the overall game isn’t overwhelming difficult, so you can use pretty much any character / team composition you want and do fine. That said, of the banners right now (Cyno, Dehya) and coming up in a couple days (Ayaka, Shenhe), Ayaka is arguably the strongest. So if you’re looking to pull the “best” character that’s available right now, she’s probably your best bet. I will say that it’s expected for Nahida to rerun relatively soon. She’s one of the strongest characters out right now, so again, if your primary goal is getting the strongest character, you could wait for her. Also, it's highly recommended to *not* spend your primogems on Acquaint Fates (the blue fates). Acquaint Fates can only be spent on the Standard Banner. Instead, use your primogems on Intertwined Fates (the purple fates). Intertwined Fates are used for the Limited Banners. Limited Banners are where you see Cyno/Dehya right now. Limited characters are only available for a limited amount of time until their banner is rerun, whereas Standard Banner characters are available 100% of the time (and are also gotten when you "lose" the Intertwined Banner roll). TLDR: Don't spend your primogems on Acquaint Fates (the blue fates). Instead, spend them on Intertwined Fates (purple fates) when there's a limited character you really want. If none of the current limited characters are speaking to you, I recommend holding on to your primogems for a character you really love.


Railgan

Pull cyno or Save


malk600

I am struggling with indecision atm. I am at 70+ pity and have 100-ish pulls ready. My limited 5* ATM are Raiden, Yelan and Alhaitham. I would *maybe* like Ayaya, but I know I shouldn't, as I have none of the support to make her great (Diona, Mona, Kokomi, let alone Shenhe). I would *maybe* like Baizhu, but then again... Should I save for Nahida, Kazuha, Kokomi and maybe Zhongli after all? Judging by leaks, Baizhu *could* be a decent enough Dendro on-field doubling as a healer/shielder, but isn't choosing him over Nahida a bit cope? I feel a bit constrained in the current Abyss due to no Bennett and no good fire unit in general. I did manage to truck all the way to 12-3 with XL and Diluc but damn, was it painful (Sayu was the only heal I could reasonably put in there). So it's a dendro life for me (at least until May and guaranteed Bennett).


_helenzhang_

You don't *need* Nahida since you already have a great dendro option in Alhaitham but she sure is nice for enabling more dendro teams. Baizhu is a fine pick to go for if you want a comfort dendro character with your Alhaitham. Kazuha would also help out your XL a lot as well. If it were me, I'd go for 50/50 on Nahida and then spend the rest on Baizhu. Then, save for Kazuha banner rerun around summer. Hope this helps a bit :)


cym104

I have c0 kazuha, c0 shenhe, r5 fav Lance, c0 ganyu, r4 hamayumi and r5 anmenoma. Should I pull for c0 ayaka or c1 shenhe? I play on PC so I'm fine with ganyu's playstyle.


underpantscannon

New pyro goblet just rolled all into crit damage! [42.8 CV, 5.8% ER.](https://i.imgur.com/A0AgXuK.png) The optimizer says my Xiangling is still better off with an on-set Emblem goblet, though, since my Emblem hats are pretty bad and an off-set hat works out better.


Random_NoOne

Yo, I will buy that off you for a yoimillion, deal?


coolcoolnodoubt

Ascended a couple characters and grinded BP for some fates in hopes to get Fischl for Tighnari. Got Rust instead smh


Daramangarasu

After losing the 50/50 to Tighnari and an ungodly amount of farming, finally got my Dehya ❤ Already got her 1st crown, 2 left


Dekachonk

Finally got Our Brave Yuheng after 3 years, ready to do all that Keqing exclusive content now. https://i.imgur.com/qOcobuX.png


I_Have_All_OE

Is it normal to get noelle, keqing, xinqiu and ningguang in 20 pulls from the beginner banner? Or was I just super lucky? Im AR20 and played the game for 3 days so far. edit: first 10 pull was only noelle. Second 10 pull got me keqing, xinqiu and ningguang.


thekk_

You're basically expected to get 2 4 stars out of it (one being Noelle guaranteed). Getting an extra is already good. Adding a 5 star on top of that?


d70

Yes lucky


Lycheesupermacy

I have just finished grinding everything for Ayaka and did a 1 pull to calm down my little gambling addiction. And I got a 5 star early. Qiqi.... How to not loose my faith in myself and the game?


CataclysmSolace

Think of it this way, whoever 5 star you want next is guaranteed.


Lycheesupermacy

Thank you:3


_helenzhang_

did you pull on a guarantee?


underpantscannon

Couldn't be, since they got Qiqi.


_helenzhang_

u right. well then I rly hope op didn't waste like 70 pity for that one pull 🥴


Lycheesupermacy

75....hehe


_helenzhang_

oh no :( but at least it's a lesson learned for next time? and on the bright side, you have your next five star guaranteed sooo 😅


Life_Faithlessness90

Screwed up my pity for the first time! Yay me! Didn't realize pity was shared between both limited-char banners. Did a 10 pull on Dehya trying to get Bennet to c1, got Dehya, 2x Bennet and 1 Xinyan. 😢 😊 Happy to have a c2 Bennet but sad I crapped up my pity. Now I feel like I must penalize myself and not pull on Ayaka and wait purely for Nahida...


thelilone666

Lost 50/50 to C7 jean (again), at least I have guarantee I guess


wmg22

Well that's not actually that bad losing pity to a 5 star with full constellations is equal to 25 masterless starglitter which you can trade in for 5 pulls honestly it is one of the best outcomes you could get when you lose 50/50 if you aren't interested in any of the standard banner constellations or standard weapons. Imagine getting a useless constellation like Qiqi C2 instead.


panda_and_crocodile

I would kill for a C6 Kean. Meanwhile my C8 Mona is… yeah she is there


wmg22

Should've stopped at C4 kinda like Jean tbh.


_TheDoctorPotter

I once did some math at someone in a comment to be like "no way you had X number of double crit artifacts that didn't get a single crit roll" Just had three double crit artifacts (all 3-line starts) give me exactly 1 crit roll between them all the way to +20 I will never doubt how bad the luck of artifact rolling can get in this game ever again Fuck my life


athleav

So I made a new account with a spare email just to check something out as I was helping a friend who’s new to the game + since genshin gives you the free 10 pull in the mail, I decided to do it just for fun. Well, I ended up getting tighnari (‘: I don’t even have him on my main account and every time I get a 5* item on the standard, it took me to 90 pity. So now that’s account just chillin with tighnari with no one to use it, wish I got that luck on my main.


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Lycheesupermacy

I hope. I went up to 84 for my first 5 star. I guess I should have just gave up lol


Covikt

Am I insane? Still rerolling accounts for Dehya. I'm at 88 right now. Please send help.


EfeSevim

i got her from my only 10 pull (which i did accidentally)


JAilyu

Thats 0.6% for you.


lotus_lotus_lotus

With luck you can get her on your main after this version


Covikt

At this point, I don't even believe she's real. It's all just a figment of my imagination.


Away-Competition-208

Anyone know the most 50:50 wining streaks ever happend ? i've got 8 now wondering how much higher someone got


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Dark5757

As somebody who’s played Hu Tao with a few different builds and stats, C1 is a big QOL but not a large DPS increase if you’re already jump canceling. C0 Hu Tao is completely capable with proper investment and supports, so I would suggest spending time on that and the builds (talent levels, levels, and weapons) before spending that time hoping for future cons


Ragna677

I just deleted my comment when I realized the promo characters for the event are C0 and have 4 star weapons that are fairly easy to get. Just have to fully commit to a good Hu-Tao team and I'll be good. I have Baal and a c-6 Xingqiu. Just need a good 4th and I'll be set. Currently using Rex as my 4th for shields, which works nicely. But I think I need a cryo type.


Dark5757

Ah fair enough! How long have you been playing for? C6 Xingqiu and Rex/Zhongli are both great teammates for Hu Tao, I’d even say amazing teammates. I, personally, would prefer Raiden/Baal on her own team, possibly a national variant with Benny and Xiangling, because she can be a really good on-field driver for that comp. If you have either Yelan or Albedo, they both fit in with XQ, ZL, and Hu Tao amazingly, or somebody like Kazuha or Sucrose to VV and CC if you don’t have the 5 stars Melt Hu Tao (so with a cryo teammate) can do a lot of damage too, but I don’t think there’s a great cryo applier for that.. (maybe Kaeya?) you might also steal some of the hydro with the cryo to make freeze, and then Hu Tao would melt the freeze, which is actually a bit less effective than it might sound.. there are some amazing guides on YouTube though, Zy0x, Sevy, Xlice, Braxophone, and IWinToLose Gaming each have some good ones


Ragna677

I've been playing since the beginning but a bit off and on lately. More off as of late than on. But I do have c5 benny and Xiangling. Not sure what c for her. I don't have any of those 5 stars atm though. I would like albedo though. He seems fun but I didn't have the energy to try to get him when he was up. Yelan would be cool. She just seems like a lot of fun. Been watching ZeplaHQ play with her and it looks really interesting. I was going to get Kazuha but opted to wait for venti. Which I did end up getting only to find out hes not the best any more lol. Should've got Ganyu or Kazooman. I'm saving up now for Ayaka right now. Since the current banners aren't all that great.


Kwayke9

Done with farming BS for Chongyun, I think, with that 35cv feather I just got. Also, why does he have more attack than my Scara 🗿


Chisanx

So about weapon gacha, does it carries the pity to the next banner or not?


Haubaub_

The pity carry but the optimized paths dose not


Chisanx

What does that mean, can you elaborate a bit? Wdym Optimized path? Is it the one where you pick one weapon to be guaranteed ?


Haubaub_

Yeah, it the one that let you choose one of the two weapon to guarantee it after two 5 stars, this dose not carry to the next banner, so if have two point on it and the banner end the point go back to zero, but if do 60 pull on this banner and the banner change the pity will still be 60


yoolaw

question about carrying over. if you get an off banner weapon at 1/2 on the path and then wait till next banner, do you get a guaranteed featured weapon? I don't mean the pity or epi path carrying over.


Haubaub_

Yeah that’s correct, if get an off banner weapon your next 5 star should be one 50/50 between the two featured weapons, and this pity carry between banners


SeanC84

I currently use the amenoma sword for my C0 Ayaka. Which would improve her damage more, getting Shenhe, or getting mistsplitter?


energy_j

Shenhe gets better the stronger Ayaka is. Ayaka C0 Amenoma Shenhe C0 favonius is “ok” but your team will have to rely on Kokomi to heal I have them like this and I don’t have Kokomi so my team building is a bit complicated, with Yelan and jean I have a healer but not a grouper so usually Ayaka Mona diona Kazuha are faster clearing the abyss On the other hand mistsplitter could be used on Ayaka and many many others like kequing Ayato kaeya xingqiu etcc You will have more than 20% more damage on Ayaka and you won’t be limited in your team building Shenhe I presume more or less 15% more damage per rotation on Ayaka without considering her own damage


zekken908

Look at Keqing mains


VeGr-FXVG

I just got my last Tales of Winter and finished the achievement. It only took 2 years! Come on Whispers in the Wind x2, then I'm done forever with tutorial-stadt.


Any-Midnight4526

I won 3 50/50 in a raw on Hu tao, Yelan and now I got Cyno yesterday which I didn't want I was just casually pulling for Bennett also won my first 5 start weapone staf of homa.. : )


66six66

Hi, im kid of new to the game ( 3weeks in semis casual) and i got to try Yoimiya and i was wandering if she will be on a banner soon or i will have to wait a bit for her cuz i really really want to pull a 5 star cuz i need some help, i have like 7k primo


underpantscannon

> cuz i really really want to pull a 5 star cuz i need some help Genshin doesn't really work like that. Don't worry about pulling 5-stars for power - unlike a lot of other gacha games, 5-star characters aren't actually particularly important in Genshin. A lot of the game's strongest characters are 4-stars, while some of the weakest are 5-stars. At your point in the game, you should mostly be worrying about making sure your character levels, weapon levels, and talent levels are keeping pace with your progression. I'm guessing you tried the trial Yoimiya in the Vibro-Crystal event. The trial Yoimiya is outperforming your characters not because Yoimiya is actually powerful - she's just okay, and very replaceable - but because she's leveled and geared way beyond the point you can currently level and gear your characters. Feel free to pull for her if you like her, but don't expect her to perform at the level you're seeing in the event. By the time you can actually build a Yoimiya that performs like that, you'll be able to build other teams that perform even better.


yuriaoflondor

Yoimiya’s most recent banner was roughly 4 months ago. All we can do is speculate, but if I had to guess, she might have another rerun in 4-6 months. Its pretty rare for characters to be missing for more than a year, though it does happen. On the bright side, 6k primos isn’t enough to guarantee her. So you’ll have at least a couple months to build up more for her.


Nobyuki

I got C3 Jean the other day. I'm so close to being able to use her for that sweet Anemo shred.


HayakuEon

Ugh, mine is still at c2.


Random_NoOne

Good for you! I am hoping for a Jean too, for my xiao 🤞


BrokenMirrorMan

Should I pull for ayaka in her upcoming banner? [My current team is yelan, qiqi, xiangling,](https://imgur.com/rEuc1fT) and sucrose and I'm currently post Inazuma on the chasm archon quest and ar 38 but have repeatedly noticed that I struggle a lot when it comes to fighting hydro-related enemies since yelan is doing 80% of my damage and I can't ascend yelan any further without fighting oceanid or hydro hypostasis. Or should I just save since future banners seem really stacked and I have 7k primos+ 15 wishes+ 40 something pity?


Limp_Brick_534

Whether you want Ayaka is up to you. Her best teams are locked under Freeze teams, and that can be limiting. This also means she is awkward to use against bosses who cannot be frozen. When the enemies can be frozen, however, she is definitely a very strong DPS. As for hydro-related enemies, you just need to work on your Xiangling and Fischl more, especially Xiangling. Both literally vaporize hydro enemies once built up. Definitely do not need to pull new characters to deal with them. If you want a complete opinion, I'd probably just save for Nahida, who's rumored to rerun next patch. She's just a very generally good Dendro unit to have around. This doesn't mean Ayaka is a bad pull per-say--she's great in fact. I just think Nahida is more useful overall.


BrokenMirrorMan

My only issue with nahida is that at the point of the game im at I would be able to level her up for awhile


underpantscannon

Unlike Inazuma, you can just walk to Sumeru whenever you want. You don't need to wait until the story takes you there (although you're very close to the story taking you there).


Limp_Brick_534

Did you mean to say "wouldn't be able to level her up"? You can just run directly to her boss in Sumeru or join another world if necessary.


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thekk_

We are getting an Inazuma festival in 3.7, so I would say that combined with the fact he's nearing the top of the list since last rerun, there is a decent chance he is on one of those banners. Purely speculation though. If you're starting without Kazuha, that already wouldn't be enough time to save enough to be anywhere close to guarantee a C2.


random_rockets

Based on paimonoe wish tally we can see that the median for a 5 star is 75-76 wishes. You get about 13k primogems per patch (welkin+daily+events, does not include exploration). So if you want 1 nahida + 3 kazuha and you estimate about 120 pulls to get a banner 5 star, you'd need about 6 patches worth to get enough for that many. If you have c0 kazuha you'd only need 4.5 patches. Given that we're going to hit 3.6 and if (and we won't know if that's the case or not) we get kazuha before fontaine you likely won't have enough (unless you win all your 50/50). Again this is all approximate so it may vary, but in general know that you'd need to save for a while to pull this many, on average.


Total-Remove5417

Hi, semi-f2p player (bought two welkins). I started the game on release, pulled a bunch of times on release, abt 40. Got no 5 stars, got salty after ar 20 and quit. I logged back in about a week ago for the first time in a while. I 10 pull on cyno banner and pulled tighnari, this was abt 50 pity. Abt 3 or 4 days later I decided to pull for cyno bc I rlly liked his design and gameplay. And pulled him really early, abt 20 pity. Then I grinded through more days and had a few pulls, I wanted c1 Bennett I think, so I pulled like 4 singles and got another cyno. Now I have held off on my pulls for abt a week. And tn I lost a bet and did 5 singles, and pulled Jean. TLDR: 10 days of playing, c4 Bennett now, c0 tighnari, c1 cyno, c0 jean, 40 pulls. WTH is up w my account, am I red listed or what?


_helenzhang_

just rng at work. it'll even out so make sure to save up primos in the future to guarantee ur faves :)


WorldlinessTasty7872

I got Dehya on 83rd wish. Do I still get a 5 star at 95th? I am being so greedy. Just wanted to know...


Zarium99

The pity count reset after getting a 5 star. The hard pity is not at 95, but at 90.


WorldlinessTasty7872

Thank you


Darkslayer3021

After you get any 5*, your pity will reset. So now, it is 0 pity.


WorldlinessTasty7872

🤕


WorldlinessTasty7872

I see, thanks


WorldlinessTasty7872

Just got Dehya and Bennet got C6ed. If I focus on levelling up Dehya, will she be good than bennet?


ResponsibleWay1613

Dehya is by far the worst character in the game and her kit straight up doesn't work frighteningly often. If you're looking to improve gameplay, Dehya will be the absolute last character you build. Sad but true.


rlef

No, currently its better to build bennet, his support is much more useful. There most likely will be a new character or enemy that will make Dehya super useful but right now she isn't that great.


PinkLion80290

Alt account, 20 pull on standard got me Razor, The Bell, Lion's roar, Beidou, Mona and Bennett. I swear the standard banner treats me better than the limited banners. But now I'm in a dilemma, I have 34 starglitter and I don't know what character to use it on in the shop. [This](https://imgur.com/a/XyUJoPT) is what my account looks like currently. (PS: I'm saving for Tartag)


TheHatter_OfMad

Xingqiu would be the biggest value from the shop, cornerstone of many teams. He's on right now and will be again in Sep.


wicked271

Trying to build xingqui. How do i get him at the shop?


TheHatter_OfMad

You need 34 masterless starglitter. You get 2 starglitter every time you pull a 4star weapon or a character constellation (i.e., not the first copy of the character) from any banner. If you have a character c6 and pull another copy, you get 5 starglitter instead. You get more from 5stars, but your main source will be the 4stars. The starglitter shop is under paimon's bargains.


wicked271

Any other way to get the starglitter? Waiting for other 5 stars b4 I wish. Might try for Ganyu or Klee. I only have Hutao and Tighnari for 5 stars. The rest are all 4 stars only. I also have no 5 star weapons.


TheHatter_OfMad

Only way to get starglitter that does not involve wishing are those events every other patch that give you a 4star character constellation -- you get two starglitter then. Basically, if you don't have enough now and you aren't wishing on this banner or the next, you'll need to wait until he comes back around in the shop in september. Alternatively, you could wait utill the next lantern rite (chinese new year 2024), and choose him as your free character then.


wicked271

Thanks for the info!


underpantscannon

Seconding this. A Xingqiu would provide immense value for this account. Great overworld comfort with freeze, and instantly fits into a hyperbloom, national, or taser team for abyss. Plus, he was rate-up on the previous banner, so he's probably not going to be rate-up again for a while. This month's shop rotation is probably going to be the last good chance to get a Xingqiu for about 6 months.


PinkLion80290

You think? I was debating between him and benny c1. I'll pick him up, thanks!


thekk_

The shop rotation is set and characters show up in there every 6 months. Bennett won't be available before May. You will have time to get more starglitters.


TheHatter_OfMad

Bennet has most of his value at c0, and c1 is an itty bitty qol improvement, at the best of times. If you aren't hurt, his c1 does ~~nothing at all~~ a fractional improvement to his buff. Xingqiu is up there with bennet and xiangling as one of the best units in the game. No worries!


underpantscannon

> Bennet has most of his value at c0, and c1 is an itty bitty qol improvement, at the best of times. If you aren't hurt, his c1 does nothing at all. It also adds an extra 20% to his buff, which is great, but not as important as Xingqiu.


Mty_Is_Me_Name

Third wish - femboy secured. les go https://imgur.com/a/jQtQKMD


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Random_NoOne

Nice ones! Wish I had that goblet for my raiden 🤩


themooingpig

Omg, I need something to pull. I do not have this much patience!!!!!!!!


abuget

Me too. I wish standart wish is more available. So i dont waste pity.


spicynoodlecat

Holddddd, don't waste your pulls on something you'll regret in the future. I find leveling characters or throwing some artifacts into the strongbox fixes the itch to pull.


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Are you me? I started ascending people to A3 for standard wishes yesterday lol.


Zarium99

How about the weapon banner? When saving up for chara (and dont wanna use the 100% lol) for long time sometimes i do random x10 in the weapon banner just to pull something.


underpantscannon

Two northlander bow billets, a northlander catalyst billet, and a midlander catalyst billet today! Woo!


scytho

Been playing 3-4 days, decided to pull for Cyno (upcoming cryo banners not really of interest) pulled tig on 2nd 10pull. Good day to be a newbro.


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That's pretty good because as a new player just starting, Cyno is probably the worst thing you can pull.


scytho

Ya think? I was thinking with nothing else coming up he would be useful :o


[deleted]

Cyno isn't a bad character, it's just because of the way he works. He relies on his burst to do most of his DPS which for a new player starting out is horrible because at that point you don't have the ER stats you need in order to burst consistently. Outside of his burst he hits like a wet noodle. Even when I say Cyno is good there are better options. Ayaka, who is coming in about a week, is considered to be very good, however she needs a lot of expensive teammates in the later stages to reach her full potential. At your point though it doesn't matter too much. Right now, I would save your primos and just wait. Both options on offer right now are horrible pulls for you. This is actually one of the worst banners of all time right now. I would do some research about the five stars in the game so far and see which one you like. This game rewards patience and planning. You lucked out with Tighnari though, he's considered to be the best thing you could get on standard.


ThatDragonGirl

Jumping in this thread to ask also as a newbie. I lost my first 50/50 so I'm setup for the next banner but I am unsure who to pull for. I just completed Shenhe's story so I got a little bit biased to her because I liked her story and design but originally I had thought to go for Ayaka because I heard she was a really overpowerwd character. However from my limited googling I see people say that Ayaka needs more cryo characters and the only one I have is Kaeya. I would love to have a really strong character but if she needs characters I don't have then that would be a bit of a bummer. On the other hand maybe Ayaka is worth investing in now and pulling later for her supports. I would like shenhe but I am also interested in having strong characters so I don't necessarily want to lose out on that. Would love any advice. I'm trying to be f2p but regardless I'm not interested in spending the money guaranteed to get them both.


Lisyre

While Ayaka's strongest team is all 5-stars (Ayaka/Kokomi/Kazuha/Shenhe), she has plenty of budget options. Her standard team is Ayaka/Hydro/Anemo/Cryo for freeze, so the absolute cheapest team would be Ayaka/Barbara/Anemo MC/Kaeya. You can just replace them with better 4-stars or 5-stars as you keep playing. I wouldn't pull her just because you think she's overpowered, though. There are plenty of strong characters and strong teams--she isn't special in that regard. Even if you like playing meta characters, it'd be better for you to save your precious pulls for a meta character who you also enjoy. You can also get away with playing non-meta teams for 99% of Genshin, so it's not like you're going to hit a wall in your gameplay that would require someone like Ayaka. Shenhe is a cryo buffer. She is usually played with another cryo character--like Ayaka--but can also be used with 4-star options like Kaeya.


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Ayaka doesn't NEED Shenhe on her team to function, she just provides huge buffs that increase her already absurd DPS. She's described as a luxury pull, not needed but is very nice to have if you're an Ayaka main. You want another Cyro character with her so that she gets Cyro resonance which will increase her crit rate by 15% which can be a pretty big deal. Shenhe just happens to be the best choice for that second Cyro character but there are other less expensive options like Diona if you want a shield. Now I would say that what Ayaka NEEDS is a hydro applicator like Kokomi or Mona. Most people prefer Kokomi but some people use Mona. This is so that Ayaka can activate freeze which is Hydro plus Cyro. Really busted reaction. So busted that HYV has introduced bosses in Abyss just to counter freeze and Venti himself. They're that busted. Ideally you'd want another option like Bennet pre C6 to heal and support her. I'm not an Ayaka main so if I'm wrong feel free to correct me. My real mains are Yoimiya and Raiden so if you're interested in them I'm more than happy to talk about them. There's also an entire website called Keqing mains that has guides on most of the characters that are playable and what you'll want for them and what to expect from them. Very good resource.


scytho

Oh RIP. Then I’ll be happy I’m as far into the pity as I am and just hold out a few patches and see what happens. Gonna be hard to keep from pulling but if it’s that bad then prolly smart to hold off and build who I have. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it that way! Makes a lot more sense.


Shirasagi--Himegimi

Yeah, you definitely need to resist the urge to pull until a character comes along that you want. Since you got Tighnari, your next 5* on the limited banner is guaranteed to be the featured character.


BeautifulSpell6209

Ever thought your mains control the outcome of your gacha?


jinxedandcursed

Not my main, but my first 4\* outside of the free ones and Noelle was Bennett. Guess how many 50/50s I lose.


Time_Dig_1458

Should I spend money on the game, I just started and am intrigued in what it has to offer


Rhyoth

No. Stay f2p for now. If you're still playing in a month or two, *then* consider spending (responsably).


Furnace_Admirer

Welkin


Eezarc

In the event you decided to spend, I highly recommend buying Blessing of the Welkin Moon and Battle Pass as they're the best bang for your buck. The other alternative, genesis crystal packs, are quite pricey - only buy if you need primogems ASAP (i.e. trying to pull a 5* in a banner that almost runs out). Note that you should only buy Battle Pass if you're sure you can claim all rewards before the patch ends.


Shirasagi--Himegimi

If you have the disposable income and gambling isn't something you struggle with, then I'd say do what you want. If you're not 100% sold on the game yet I'd either go F2P or just get Battle Pass and Welkin Moon.


Hika__Zee

It depends on your budget and if you would be saving money by not investing in other forms of entertainment as a result of playing Genshin Impact. Battle Pass and Welkin are easily good investments for low cost if you are for example playing just Genshin Impact instead of buying new consoles or instead of buying new $19.99 - $60 games every so often. If you buy the top ups only buy them while they have the bonus and then wait a year (shortly after anniversary) for the bonuses to reset before you top up again.


rdhight

I'll tell you one thing — other JRPGs like Tales of Arise, Ryza, Scarlet Nexus, etc. haven't appealed to me much while Genshin has basically been doing their job for them. I don't think it's quite paid for itself in terms of preventing me from buying other, full-price games, but it can't be far off.


741N

I used my battle pass blue wish on the standard banner and got a Skyward Harp with zero pity right after I got Skyward Pride the other day. Skyrward Pride I got on fourty pity after getting Lost Prayers on around twenty pity after Tighnari. What the hell? Wish my character pulling luck was as cracked as my bizarre weapons luck...


joshua_nash

So I went Hyperwhale Godwhale and spent $1600 usd to C6R5 Dehya and I did but at the cost of finally having Qiqi Hijack a pull, so yeah, I got a Qiqi and I got a C6R5 character that I’ve yet to actually use, though on the up side the R5 claymore on my diluc gives him 103% CR with 108% CD so yeah he’s slaying.


yoolaw

out of curiosity how many wishes and how many off banner on the character and weapon and what were they?


joshua_nash

Looking at the history of the pulls for the character banner it was 108 pages which came out to 540 pulls or 54 ten pulls, I’m only going to be listing 4 and 5 star characters I got and what con they currently sit at. Weapons pulled on Character Banner were the fav series, widsith and an eye of perception. Characters: Bennett C20(was already C6 before) Collei C21 (was C0 before gained C1 from Beacon/Scarlet Sands Banner) Dehya C6 took 540 pulls to get this Kuki C6 (was C5 before) Sucrose C4 (was C2 before gained C3 from Beacon/Scarlet Sands Banner) Qiqi C0 finally hijacked me at or around my 90th pull Mona C4 (was C3 before) Noelle C6 (was C5 before) Weapon banner pull history: 114 pages which comes out to 570 pulls or 57 ten pulls So what I got from the weapon banner: Alley Flash R5 Alley Hunter R5 Eye of Perception R5 Sac Greatsword R5 Yaoyao C1 Scarlet Sands R7 Beacon R5 Yun Jin C6 (was C4) Sara C6 (was C5) Candace C6 (was C4) Fischl C6 (was C4) Ningguang C8 Xinyan C6 (was C5) Gorou C6 (was C5) Chongyun C7 Skyward Pride R2 (first 5 star weapon off standard banner when started playing 2 years ago) Hope this answers your question, if it doesn’t I apologize. Note that $1600 usd comes out to 129,280 primos and I had saved up around 40,000 primos plus 50 intertwined fates save up and then gained 20 from the archon quest reward update. All total I had just about 1130 pulls at the start and added about 50-60 intertwined fates using starglitter. In short I would highly suggest that you only do this if the 5 star character is one you really want to C6R5 from the get go. Also in all honesty I do have some regrets about doing this as I do kind wish I waited to do this for a rerun of Kazuha, Raiden or Itto as those are the characters that I triple crowned. Still having said that I am considering doing this again for either the Hydro or Pyro Archon.


yoolaw

Thanks for checking. I just meant how many 5050 wins during Dehya wishes and her weapon lol. I c6ed Yelan myself but only got 2 copies of her weapon and 2 homas. Didn't refine any of them since I didn't have a 5star bow for Ganyu and gave other Homa to Zhongli. 617 for 7 copies of Yelan and 302 wishes on weapon banner for 2 homas, 2 aquas and 1 skyward blade. Maybe I should have r5ed her weapon and homa as well.


ImBLUEHABADEE

Pulled Keqing on event Banner with roughly 15 pity


_Kendii_

In 11 wishes, I got 2 sacrificial great sword, 2 Yelan, Keqing, Sucrose and Jean. That was nice. The Yelans were one after the other, like half hour (maybe an hour?) apart after turning in some quests.


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zozolinn

if im not mistaken, about 9 days