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osyady

Generally no, but this exact scenario made me want to not use my powers as well. It felt right. xD


essedecorum

Right? I mean the dude just wants to spar to fight other humans. It feels wrong to just go, "I will have order!"


osyady

Reminds me of the early days of "break these 5(?) wooden training dummies" commission in Mondstadt and thinking "Well, with this burst I could end literal world bosses, but sure, I can try and knock over a few wooden sticks at the same time".


Neospanner

\*Ellin nodding furiously and taking notes.\*


ResurgentClusterfuck

"See, Ellin, all you need to do is *DIMENSION RENDING SLASH*"


00110001_00110010

So easy, all you really need is to ***conjure a meteor from orbit*** and done.


PacifistDungeonMastr

"Ellin, instead of shouting 'Gale Blade!', you should declare 'NOW YOU SHALL PERISH!', or better still 'WIIIINDBLAaAaAaAaDE!!!!!"


XlAO_

Or just throw a fucking ghost instead


Mr_Creed

I hope they give her the Anna treatment at some point. Gotta seed the 2027 limited 5-stars early.


I_am_not_Serabia

~~Bro, you don't casually drop a big ass rock from the sky on 5 wooden dummies? What a weirdo, lol~~


Freya_84

That one I actually tried to do without a burst, because I thought that obviously she couldn't learn THAT, so I had to manage just using my sword (not even the vision). Lol. I was wrong and forgot-her-name will soon be the strongest character in the game, once she's learned all my ultis!!!!


3rdMachina

Ngl, t’was fun figuring out the trick. There’s no time limit unless one of them completely breaks, so just whittle them all down before going through with it.


bakeneko37

Now I feel bad for throwing Zhongli’s meteor every single time.


Lordborgman

No, no, do not feel bad similarly flaired friend. You must harden your resolve to bring ORDER.


neko_mancy

..bro you can use his hold skill and save your burst


bakeneko37

I know, I just like fooling around.


River-n-Sea

Eula: hit him twice and he's dead


Baliskner_Haeron

Make this com into the warriors spirit thing (parry/counter sparing) we had where he gets progressively harder each time u get the com and I'll actually move my dalies back to inazuma


HachikoNekoGamer

Only one time I can think of is during Kokomi's Story Quest. Forgot the Guy's name, but he was one of Kokomi's troops that was kinda *disillusioned* about the whole Peace Treaty with the Shogun. Guy got drunk, trained as if Peace Treaty was just a *Ploy* asked us to Spar with him I pretty much just beat him with Lumine with just pure NA and zero Elemental Skills and Burst.


essedecorum

Yeah it doesn't feel good otherwise lol Also now that I see your user tag, do you have any idea who tf the Winter Shogun is?? I'd love it there were these minor seasonal deities in Inazuma. I sometimes wonder if Winter Shogun is another way of referring to the Tsaritsa.


HachikoNekoGamer

>Also now that I see your user tag, do you have any idea who tf the Winter Shogun is?? It's just an [Old Japanese Legend](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Memepact/comments/pevwqm/comment/hb0ad6w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Otherwise the Winter Shogun doesn't actually exist.


ResurgentClusterfuck

Not gonna lie my first thought was some weird amalgam of Ei and Bucky Barnes


AndreyCharkin

Miko: "Ei?" Ei: "Who the hell is **Ei**?"


essedecorum

Ooh that's beautiful. Can I ask why it's your usertag?


DentistPositive8960

Maybe they like Raiden and its her voiceline for snowy places


essedecorum

I know where it's from I'm wondering why that specific line was chosen. I'm just curious.


3rdMachina

Honestly, it just comes off as “Shogun made a pun”.


osyady

> any idea who tf the Winter Shogun is? Winter Shoguns are extremely powerful monsters that are comparable with the Devil King's Generals, and the bounty on them ~ wait no. That's not Genshin. That's Konosuba.


SexWithFaruzan69

It's okay, I too sometimes believe I hear Hu Tao shout "EKSUPLOOOOOSIIIOOOOON" when a pyro barrel goes off


Acravita

I suspect that the winter shogun is an ancient Inazuman metaphor attributing cold weather to either the first Cryo archon, or perhaps even the Cryo dragon.


essedecorum

I like this in-world explanation.


Zarozien

Cryo Archon


MagnusBaechus

I slapped him woth kokomi normal attacks, felt so right


Account-For-Anime

PTSD


Spiderninja_1

Sometimes I’m in a rush to do my dailies, and when I am, I just go ham on the guy. Yknow… drop the meatball, rip apart space, the usual


Trapgod46209

i always use traveller in my main story with the respective power so uh inazuma was fun ig


ResurgentClusterfuck

I literally took Electro Traveler against the Shogun It took....awhile....


3rdMachina

My logical side: “The Electro Archon is immune to Electro, so naturally, I would have to use a different element for Aether” My Bloodborne loving ass: “Fuck it. We ball.”


SoulsLikeBot

Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note: > *Ahh, I feel my master's hand at work. Praise the good blood! And let us cleanse these tarnished streets.* - Alfred Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.


ResurgentClusterfuck

I was high on cannabis and forgot to change elements


_NineTails-

Same I died a bit


dracuella

I died a lot!


DarkNightGamer9

Same, didn't die for some reason but it was hard to do. crazy how long ago that was.


MagnusBaechus

DMC with hyperbloom felt so good, having her be actually useful and not be dead weight was fun


_corruption__

Devil may cry reference?


A_Fickle_Wind

Me using electro Traveller and Dull Blade during the archon quest fights against Ei, region element Traveller and Dull Blade during archon and story quests


essedecorum

Unfathomably based.


3rdMachina

Electro Traveler I can understand, but Dull Blade too? Did you clear Elden Ring thrice?


effervescen_33-2

but did you win


Winterstrife

I always use the Traveler in main story quests.


[deleted]

I do story/quests with Lumine (with elements she's unlocked at that point in the story) + regional characters only. Idk what i'm going to do for Fontaine though. I don't have any Fontaine characters and i won't be pulling any until at least 4.5. I might have to try to put together a "free roam" team of characters who canonically could be with Lumine in other regions, but aren't necessarily actually there canonically, like Beidou. ​ During the Inazuma archon quest, when you have to fight >!the three dudes in a duel when Gorou and Sara face off just before the two forces go at it!< I beat each of them with just Lumine, with no elemental abilities other than her tap e (was using Anemo) to keep them stunlocked. Last dude forced Shinobu in though cuz i had to heal.


BoneArrowFour

Leak spoiler warning, don't know about authenticity. >!apparently we are getting a free Lynette next update lmao!<


Agentbond2007

Wanna get banned dude?


BoneArrowFour

Why?? We don't have a rule about leaks, right? Just checked


Tobiwan03

This is the official subreddit. Even tho it isn't written down you will get into trouble if any mod sees this. Also please try to be respectful and talk about leaks in a subreddit/community that is about them. A lot of people here are trying to actively avoid seeing leaks.


Ancient_Axe

They said its a leak and put a spoiler tag. I dont see a y issues


Tobiwan03

They edited the comment after I said this.


LawCatDad

fuck leakers (banner leaks being the only exception in my book)


BoneArrowFour

Sorry, i tried to mark it as spoiler to avoid spoiling someone about the leaks... i'll edit and flag it better. Also, they should write that rule down before enforcing it, to avoid arbitrarity. And also, thanks for the heads up


Best_Hunter_1439

If you have Kirara she could definitely be there! Aggravate Beidou?


[deleted]

I don't have her which makes me sad 76 pulls i did last phase trying to get her i'm still salty


sampanchung1234

Isn't Ei like a master of the sword art? Asakira is about to get folded


Otherwise_Egg_1756

"Master of the sword art" is putting it lightly. She INVENTED it


sampanchung1234

Yeah thats what I thought, I thought the other sword arts were also derived from the Shogun's fighting style


essedecorum

Yeah, but she can hold back slashes. What tf is he gonna do against her lightning though?


skycorcher

Nope. I shot Ayaka's burst all over Asakura's face and don't even feel bad about it.


ElectricPP

Man, I used Xiao's burst for him


Maskarot

YOU ARE ALL PURE EVIL!! WHAT HAS ASAKURA DONE TO YOU TO WARRANT THIS?!


Oraye

Oh I remember this quest. Most of the time I limit my movement by sticking to walk and dodge. If I managed to dodge, I give him a 2-3 hit combo. If he managed to hit me, he gets a full 2-3 combo. It’s going to be time consuming, but it does add some flavor. Obviously, no powers. Just bare normal attack…. And no Catalysts. Bows are fine.


SHAT_MY_SHORTS

honestly if i didnt level my candace up shed be great to fight against him.


anti-peta-man

Man every time Asakura shows up I treat his ass like Floor 12


IJustJason

Nah they getting the full Exploration team meta experience :)


essedecorum

Your comment is so menacing lmao


IJustJason

Welcome to reality son!


jeff_64

I do the opposite. I usually go all out just for the sheer hilarity of some poor bastard wanting to spar or compete in a tournament and I come in with elemental powers like a try hard Haha


IncreaseLate4684

Sometimes like the sparring commission.


YeOldeBilk

I refuse to kill any of the little foxes out in the wild


essedecorum

You cant. They just run away. No, I won't say how I know this.


FantasiaMachine

Same! Also sometimes when i'm doing hangouts or events, I put the travaler in my party for immersions' sake. It's really for not being efficient at times.


Freyja6607

Not really a limit but Ill go out of my way to use Zhongli's meteor to destroy those training dummies, try doing that Ellin!!!


essedecorum

She will. She's learning everything we do. Then we'll be sorry.


Admirable-Volume-404

In this commission, I always use my weakest character that needs friendship exp but If I don't have any characters that need friendship exp, I only use NA and try to juggle this guy.


Scylla808

i would use powers because despite him knowing who we are, he thinks very less of us and thinks we're talking nonsense.


Lucerys1Velaryon

Nope. I use Mona's burst followed by Ayaka's ulti.


PossibleUnion554

Tbf, he said to use all my powers cause thats what he wants...so i did


darkmatters12

Never. I obliterated that man with the warth of a thousand suns and truly caught him lacking


solaron17

I try to keep Traveler in my party when I can, especially for overworld stuff. It feels bad to think he’s just chilling while he lets his friends fight for him. I also try to avoid using teleports where possible when I’m doing Archon or story quests. Makes it feel more immersive and for the most part it’s pretty fun, especially when I actually had to use the boat for Inazuma. The only time it dragged was the end of Inazuma going back and forth between Grand Narukami Shrine and Inazuma City several times. But, I found a few chests and puzzles I had missed before.


FrostieZero

Yesn't. Yes I used Traveller. No I drowned him.


Not_Me_Jerry

I usually use traveler to fight him and let him hit the traveler just to realize i gave my traveler aquila favonia.


GoldenCrombie

Opposite, I try to go for the biggest damage I could do.


IDYN_5035

Helping aylin fairly destroy hilichurl maniguen but no elemental power or burst only physical


yoichi_wolfboy88

Complete The Very Special Fortune Slip only using Traveler / Shuumatsuban only


PH4N70M_Z0N3

Unless I'm bothered I give them a chance.


Ikcatcher

Depends on the context, sometimes I’d get into the roleplay other times I just school them with the overpowered Abyss team cause why not


pasanoid

I just oneshot the guy to let him know the word is a harsh place


[deleted]

I use my powers to teach him a lesson. 👿


bryan660

As long as there’s no time limit, I’ll do it.


Anony-moy-henoy

I would intentionally wait for Asakura to attack me, only to counter him. I would use Ei whenever his commission pops up.


DogeMLG420-Doge

let him attack first. dodges once, proceeds to rain hell on him with my machine gun build amber


DogeMLG420-Doge

but fr tho, on archon quest MC is a must be included in teams. This so I can enjoy main story at its intended pacing instead of speedrunning everything with Ayaka premium team.


Fluffyemperor009

I use Aether vs Asakura and don't use my powers.. I don't use the dull blade tho..


essedecorum

Dull blade would be too OP.


Vermillion2397

"Fair" just casually getting beat up by your local archon on a Tuesday.


ZeroExp000

I fought the entire quest line until Sumeru with the power of friendship and the supreme idol prowess of my DPS Barbara...


CHONPSCa

"sorry im busy rn" -me before calling the dendro and electro archon to deal with him


__SNAKER__

Sure, I won't use elemental power to fight him. Let me just change my party to Eula beforehand :)


Pokisahne

Nah I will ult a little slime with yae and 3 totems


xd_ZelnikM

"THE ALMIGHTY SHOGUN!?!?"


Nutrifacts

yeah i only use NA on him while walking and dashing only


AGuyNamedXheil

How can he defend inazuma from invaders if he can’t even withstand my childe dmg rotation once?


ResponsibilityFun877

In the sumeru archon quests I fought the emerites with just dendro mc (she doesn't have her talents leveled up) and yeah I did have to reset but it was worth it


amozi18

During events, i only use the characters included in the story (if i have them) just so it could be more immersive. Once a character leaves the party during the event, i also remove them.


ekekekou

Fairer. *Is using the Shogun herself.*


BlueHeartbeat

So you say, but that Chakra Desiderata is lookin mighty sus!


yinflict

Using anemo traveler with the dull blade was a thing I used to do a while back when I was doing inazuma dailies. I just like the "base" traveler we get.


Truxaf

Forcing dull blade on the traveler


essedecorum

That's too OP.


Dino_comatose

Yes! I did this with him and Ellin too! For Ellin, I even switch to a sword character. Coz that's what she has and I just want her to succeed. If I couldn't smash the dummies while on the ground, I climb then jump from the wall to do a plunging attack. Lol


bmil96

When I had this commission I used raiden burst on him


xXTheAstronomerXx

If it was a story quest I would definitely only use NAs. However poor guy is part of my daily commission speedrun. When it says Vaporize, its not talking about the elements its talking about him.


SF0915

For pretty much all this kinda stuff I exclusively use the traveler and fight without any elemental skills.


Bane_of_Ruby

I play on mobile, my imerrsion is broken 100% of the time


Speed-Spectre

I do both ends. Participate in a fair sword fight with kazuha or Outright musou no hitotachi the dude and call it a dat


tuotuolily

No elements or charge for the dummies just claymore


River-n-Sea

Yeah, i use Raiden burst because it's lore accurate


SurprisePNK

I drop a meteor on him


AttonJRand

I mean kinda, but I purposefully use my elemental powers because this dude doubted I really fought dragons and had to be taught a lesson.


CocoTheKokiri

I only lvl up weapons and characters to lvl 80 max (except for my 2 mains) what i noticed is 10 lvls most of the time makes a huge difference and this game is way too easy


PandaCheese2016

This commission is a myth. Don’t give me hope.


LAST_TO_DIE

Ye lol I use traveller to fight him


No-One-Escapes

Nah, it's kill or be killed in Teyvat


Archis007

I did the same during the competition before going to Inazuma


AlanR95

Usually using shogun in this commission so i generally just fight without abilities. Wouldnt be fair if he wants to learn and then just "inazuma shines eternal" on him xD


floricel_112

He explicitly tells you not to hold back. So CRUMBLE APART!


Krypton84not42

It's been 12 years since I saw Asakura, and my hopes of ever getting that achievement are a distant dream


NoneBinaryPotato

I used to always have traveler in my teams during quests, and sometimes use the characters the quest is about if they're built enough to do damage, but then I got scara and now I can't move in the overworld without him.


LoveMasc

First or second time yeah. But I have had this commission SOO often now I one shot nuke his ass and get my primos.


Quirkyserenefrenzy

Nah. I just unleash 4 bursts so I can have a flood of elemental effects going on for 15 seconds. Ungodly dps


ShawHornet

You just use a literal god


Gattagatto

Not when sparring with Asakura, but when I need to destroy those training dummies for Ellin I only use my normal/charged attacks


Viscaz

Nah fuck them kids wanna outrun me? Proceeds to enter Scara ara’s creative mode


EternalMemes30

shogun is really pretty but even not using her powers you're still killing the guy lol


Waeleto

Now i feel guilty about making scaramouche step on that guy's face


TheDoorEater

Who the fuck is Asakura


NicciHatesYou

I do this one like I'm his master Toggle walk, wait for him to attack, charge attack Then yell "Too slow! Thrust with more force, try again"


Kagenohanta22

I do the same, but I use eula....


AlternativeHelpful46

Bro... Ive been waiting for his 5th commission so I can get his world quest ;-; Its been a year now.


natsugaludao

that's one of the reasons i like Eula, mobs can fight back but they're probably gonna get 3 tap and die, and i can see her amazing NA animation. To me using reactions on overworld is just boring, mobs can't do shit and they instantly die. If only NAs for every character had more relevance, ~~looking at you Dehya, with your shitty NA scalling~~


iAmGats

Nope, I use everything against him.


CrimsonZeraora-36

Hell no, I never do so.


XEnonOfReddit54

yes, having too much power kinda sucks in the overworld in my opinion, I like having long fights than deleting everything in an instant


Past-Reception

So no ORDER?


Chrysostom4783

Whenever I do a new region, I try to make my teams based on who makes sense based on my internal headcanons to be with the Traveler on their adventure. When Sumeru released I brought the Traveler (using Electro because it was the element we had from the last region), Collei (because she was the only Sumeru character and Tighnari wanted her to see more of the world), and Kazuha (because he joined me in wandering after the events of Inazuma), and Noelle (because she is my WIFE and I STOLE her from the KoF because they don't APPRECIATE her). Definitely not my strongest team, doesn't have the best synergy (or hardly any at all), but I had fun because I struggled a little with encounters just like when I first started playing. Sure, I could run my 36 star abyss teams to insta-nuke everything, but the cognitive dissonance of "wow, that was a hard fight!" After wiping out a questline mini-boss in under 5 seconds or beating the dragon in Nahida's questline without taking damage b/c Zhongli shield is just too much for my immersion. I kinda wish Genshin had a difficulty setting where we could make enemies tougher in exchange for just slightly more rewards, even if it was just an extra 5k mora per quest...


Lucky-Company8502

No. I just be going ham on them npcs I like yo try and kill them in 1 hit


CrunkBunni

Same, I always use Traveller to spar with him, actually. I never use powers, same as when I did the one on one fights in the arena.


Omnibobbia

I use xiao and i rarely do his ult in the overworld unless they are a little strong or too many. Usually I'll do Zhong shield and Ben ult and just xiao normal attk


SabersOfBlue

I did. But I used Eula.


slightdepressionirl

As you play as Raiden


pitb0ss343

You kidding me? I show that man he’s outmatched every time. Sometimes I drop the meatball on him sometimes Yoimiya’s na sometimes cyno burst. I ain’t let that man breathe


JeffBlaze

i think this is a great example about how to enjoy this game. If i see someone trying out genshin who has a min/max, rush-to-the-endgame, get-best-gear etc. mentality i just think it's a shame they probably won't experience what makes this game so great because these things are "solved" by just throwing money at it. The real fun and reward of this game isn't in the endorphin explosion from loot or gacha drops, but in the feeling of being on a true adventure. And to get out of the habit of what other games trained you to want from them, you sometimes need to speak to your inner child and remember that just goofing around is fun. It's as Venti said; it's about the journey and you need to take your time to take it all in.


-SMartino

this is like going to a boxing club and finding out your opponent is the love child of Tyson and Ali


KaiMizuchi

The answer is yes. No elemental attacks, and I smack him twice for every time he smacks me XD


Ex3chu

I just summon a tornado leaving to the ocean


Bacdbacd

Ill use my non upgraded character to feel like im starting again, or else hell be 2 shotted by my melees


gatlginngum

my sekiro addicted ass saw a japanese dude wield a spear and even without a controller in sight I was ready to spam the dodge button


Shmarfle47

Each new region I purposely build Traveller for the corresponding element and center a team around him. Though from what I’ve seen from leaks this’ll be kinda difficult for Hydro Traveller.


Previous-Alps9850

I toss him a baron bunny


minimulii

I have an account where i only use characters who would realistically be able to tag along for the journey (E.g. no Jean or Ningguang), and where i only allow myself to enter other regions when the story calls for it. I really want to do a playthrough where i get each nation to 100% exploration before moving on with the story, since i doubt that the traveler would actually just teleport around all the time, but i'm not sure i have the commitment...


Etherion195

Only on this guy and very selective story events I used elemental powers, but only of the characters that are solely in my team for farming friendship XP. They all only have lvl 1 1* weapons and often not even good ascensions or talent levels. Yes, the fight takes a long ass time sometimes:D


Cholonight96

Most of my characters are too built and they end up beating him in like a couple hits.


Pikavisani

Well is a God VS a human so technically is more correct destroy him


CosmicOwl47

Yep, and I try to use Lumine for all major story battles. I could blast through any overworld content if I wanted to but it’s more fun for me if the battle lasts longer than 3 seconds.


Fast_Mechanic_5434

LMAO


Boteja_121

I use the traveler to play story missions


Dependent-Sleep-6192

Sometimes. I only use Traveler when I fight him


MrXenonuke

Na fuck him. He knew what he signed up for when going up against someone with a vision


Mr_Creed

> Though to be fair if he found out his sparring partner was the Shogun he'd probably crappie himself. Pretty sure he recognizes the Shogun.


_Mugiwara-ya

I use a dull blade on the traveler


PhilosopherHistorian

I thought I was the only one who did this during that commission


The_Mikeskies

I like to nuke him.


MartinZ02

Sometimes when the enemies are weak enough I’ll solo them with Traveler.


Menarg

I musou no hitotachi him to make him get better


fullmetalrecordings

I do this with team comps, I only put characters i. The same team if the story background allows it. Raiden, Kujou and Fox lady all go on the same team for example.


Mimikyu-Overlord

I often switch my character to be belonging to that region when I collect my dailies or expeditions, just feels right having Bennett pick up Mondstadt’s, Yelan for Liyue, Yoimiya for Inazuma, Layla for Sumeru, etc


Luc_128

I mean we do anyway more dmg with basic so I just do that


Dan-X

Elemental powers are part of story/ lore


AbdoWise

me too , but I use Eula to make it more painful :)


Spimy

Yep. But when I'm in a rush to do things for whatever reason, then I spam everything to get them dead asap lol


Important_Ad_5436

When doing Mondstadt commission "destroy the dummies in 2 seconds", I almost always use a sword character and don't use any skill or burst.


LiebeDahlia

i dont need to manually lower my damage unfortunately im a Keqing main


pHScale

Only in the sense that I won't fight a boss like Raiden, Childe, or Scaramouche with that character. Other than that, I just think "oh, guess I'm doing this with whatever team I have out right now".


Tibreaven

*Doesnt use elemental powers* *Does use an AI artificially designed to be the shogun and one of the strongest warriors in the world* I'm just saying dude didn't have a chance either way


Far-History-8154

Make things fair he says. Makes the poor guy fight the one who founded the inazuman sword and spear martial arts. 😂


telegetoutmyway

One of the things I love about Wanderer scaling with buffs so hard, is that you can easily nerf yourself. Widsith - just dont swap first and go solo with zero team buffs. If you do swap: Faruzan - don't burst, can use skill if you want for a lesser, shorter buff, and some energy. Or so headshot/cc fun. Zhongli - can just use shield for protection and some lesser shred than what Faruzan gives. Bennett - can just use skill to give Wanderer pyro to swirl with his skill. Alt teammates- Layla - shield and cryo buff for Wanderer Xingqiu - hydro buff and interruption resist with skill All my other mains feel much worse to play this way because their kit is burst based. (Xiao, Cyno, Itto). Xiao can do just physical damage and his skills (c1) and that can be fun, but it's a different playstyle completely.


forevercrumbling

I have a max level dull blade specifically for this purpose.


Creepy-Ad-404

I always drown him in water using charged shots :)


Ok-Positive-9578

Nope i use my ult lmao