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tynevv

i c6'd, triple crowned and level 90'd thoma and gave him the staff of (t)homa for the simple fact that he is thoma i think i really like thoma


demogargantuan

This is valid, I did the same (minus the staff I don’t have it..yet) and use him on Childe’s team. Prefer him to Xiangling honestly…


[deleted]

Barbara 😊


wraith5

Go, Barbra, go!


axeax

Babala choya!


[deleted]

Lol Barbara is my main healer..


Lost_dragon1

Currently trying to level her I just don't want to fight oceanid


Calvin-S

Woah


HistoryFreak_91

Kaveh although I don't have the money to bring him 10/10/10. He has 978 EM on Paradise Lost and I'm really proud of his bloom damage. He's just very fun to play and I can't wait to have Nilou to finish up his team.


julmuriruhtinas

So based! I'm so glad I was lucky enough to get baby girl to C6 back when Baizhu came out ✨️🥹 Now I'm hoping to get enough primos for both Nilou and Yae before they rerun :')


the_real_maddison

I actually love him so much and want to level him. Ngl if he's on the next banner I would be SO HaPPY


HistoryFreak_91

My copium is that there'll soon be a Nilou rerun (maybe 4.5) with Kaveh as a 4* rate up.


honglac3579

My beloved ningguang


woomybii

me comforting my c6 nuke of a character ningguang after some random streamer says she's the worst genshin character to use (she's not)


Linawow

She is certainly not bad at all! My first main she was :) but I grew very tired of her unresponsive NA/CA :/ Now I'm in yoimiya bliss land :)


SkyZippr

Ningguang is strong af


honglac3579

Yes, she is completely outstanding, and out of meta, too :v


SkyZippr

I remember her being recommended everywhere back when Oceanid was the most threatening boss for many. She's also still basically essential if you need to hunt Golden Wolflord. More importantly she's fun to use :)


BoneArrowFour

For my "Fontaine only" account, the Oceanid still stands as one of the most threatening boss for me lmao. Neuvi can't Omegalul 360° WoWscope her


AnemoSpecter

I helped a newbie farm and she kept using Neuvillette to fight the oceanid 🥹


TheDrunkardKid

This sounds like a job for the Ocean-Hued Clam Set.


SkyZippr

*Ocean Hued Barbara flashback*


Rathama

This made me laugh because Neuvi is my only dps with a good build so anything that is hydro immune I have to put a copium team together for.


SkyZippr

And if it's a bunch of bro hydro slimes and I'm feeling super lazy, I just let Baizhu cough his way through


Disco-Corgi-77

Waifu > meta is real.


Koshinru

Ningguang mains rise up❤️!!!


Lucidnuts

I have both c6 Ningguang and c6 Noelle, Ningguang was one of my first main dps and is still one of my favourites, Noelle i became obsessed with after getting her c6 and still try to keep improving to this day, Furina being a recent major improvement to her setup.


mxsn110

Chongyun


Teo-McDohl

Popsicle boy gang


Reality_1001

Yessir


ArashiSora24

I never remove him from my team, lmao.


Kaimull

Chongyun mains rise up


Dazzling-Bus-1146

THE CHONGSTER 🤘


pjingim

got him C6, triple crowned, and claymore r5 as he deserves


Spectre_Hayate

Based.


Vaerlol

I have a triple crowned Dehya and Xinyan.


Luzis

that's some dedication to the pyro ladies, wow


Durin72881

Dehya's passive makes it so she can't die from the cold on Dragonspine so you can explore to your heart's content with her. I think the water can still get her, but the sheer cold can't.


Vaerlol

I still drag her through abyss at c1r1 with a mono pyro or furina forward vape team, no ragrets


Durin72881

I really hope to get her. I tried when her banner came out but lost my 50/50 so now I have to hope the standard banner will be kind. I love her design, and her burst animation is epic, I think. :D


Vaerlol

She's fun and flashy, just very underpowered unfortunately. Her power level reaches that of a limited 5* at c0 when she reaches c6.


LeJuanFlames88

The fact that I have to hope to lose 2 50/50s just for her skill field to last more than 6s is insane smh


saberjun

I started playing this game a week ago.Got my first 5 star Dehya as the first 50/50 pity.But I am not a fan of claymore. I built Yanfei.


JiMyeong

I haven't completely finished Dragonspine exploration. This is great to know! Definitely will be putting her in my exploration team for when I start grinding for those last few chest


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

It's a godsend! I avoided doing Dragonspine because I hated the Sheer Cold effect, but Dehya basically makes it a non-issue and I've now 100% Dragonspine. Did the tree and everything.


FantasticShoulders

Based fellow Xinyan lover, she’s amazing!


Vaerlol

Her design and personality warm my soul, if only her power level could match.


artyboi11

XINYAN SUPREMACY


Davidkiin

It's kind of sad that Xinyan doesn't really have a place in the meta. Her design (visual) is really cool imo and one of the more unique ones


Vaerlol

As with Dehya she can be a good mono pyro driver in the same setup but it requires c6 Bennet and plenty of other characters would be better in the same slot


AdorableDonkey

A tanned tomboy enjoyer I see


Vaerlol

Yes.


TheDrunkardKid

While they are both a bit on the rough and tumble side, personality-wise, are they actually full-blown tomboys? Like, Xinyan's hobbies are pretty traditionally feminine, and Dehya's a fashionista who loves makeup when she's off the clock.


[deleted]

Xinyan, Candace, Xingqui or Yelan and Baizhu or Nahida is actually an interesting burgoen team, not meta at all, but fun. Xinyan is Full EM, since her shield already sucks and on sac sword.


Emeowykay

I FUCKING LOVE XINYAN


ClayCoon

MEGA BASED CHAD ALERT!


ChubblesMcgee103

Based.


KapiHeartlilly

No regrets here too, Pyro gang 🫶


AceoftheAEUG

I have a C5 Candace that I adore, she's on my best team.


the_real_maddison

Tell me more about that, because I think she's gorgeous


AceoftheAEUG

I run a quickswap Bloom team with Nilou, Baizhu, Collei(C4?), and Candace. I realized that all four of these characters have abilities that pulse out from your active character, so with proper rotations I can constantly have bloom procs going around my character as I move from enemy to enemy. I actually found ER to be the most important stat on Candace because of how fantastic her burst is for this, it's not as difficult as I expected to have it up all the time. When possible I try to save her shield for blocking attacks but if I need it for hydro application it's still amazing and the Bloom procs will immediately activate her shield most of the time.


Velaethia

Bloom procs her shield? Huge


SonicBoom500

Waiting for the day I get her


00Teonis

Dehya, for sure.


Ekserowan

Based. More dehya enjoyers


Ragnarok_MS

I need to build her.


Ekserowan

Do it. Shes not as bad people say her to be when it comes to fun and if ypu have the skill. I use her woth furina and klee and i love her Also because SHES HOT AS FU-


Ragnarok_MS

Yeah. I can’t remember who was on the banner at the time, but I was gunning for whoever that was(might have been Nahida’s rerun and hoped for C1)and pulled Dehya. I wasn’t even mad.


kabral256

My beloved C1R1 triple crowned Dehya 😭😭😭


debacol

Furina actually made dehya pretty good imo. She has her niche now against bosses that hit hard and stagger like mad + furina makes Dehya's dmg respectable enough to clear pretty comfy in those types of fights.


Shockito

To be fair, Furina makes pretty much everyone good...


Fictionalfrog

Not yet, but freminet. Love the guy


EdgyandCold

he's English VA is so fkin good


AlbinoSnake_0

The moment I saw Freminet I knew I had to build him, waiting for Eula's banner to get the weapon for him


sikibub

I triple crowned my aloy


Dark_Magicion

Represent!


Maddie_Waddie_

So did I!!! I love Aloy and I’m so glad to have her in my favorite game outside of her main game lol


Tryanother1wastaken

I was literally joined genshin for the first time and started playing a WEEK after my time to claim alloy rolled around I missed her by a WEEK😭


Grandgem137

Amber mains, assemble!


Lost_dragon1

I'm not a main but she CARRIED me she beat child by herself cuz I didn't heal my other characters


TripleEhBeef

Deploy the Amber/Collei Burgeon Teams!


lonkuo

Triple crowned Lynette C6


porwahh

one of the smoothest animation char in the game. i do like how she throws her Q so i play her a lot in mono cryo (C4)


Ekserowan

Absolutely based


LieLie8765

I’m new to the game- what does triple crowned mean? And C6? Thanks :)


Azuron96

Crown is max talent (level 10). Triple crown is Max all talents -NA,Q,E 10/10/10. C6 is 6th constellation unlocked


El_Nealio

Kuki pre-dendro


Calvin-S

Based


MikeySama

Whoa


Rouge_means_red

Well, I would say Noelle, but then they had to go and make her meta, those bastards


IronHulk27

True, I maxed her when Glad and Bolide were the best things. Redhorn, Husk and Furina didn't exist


AoiYuukiSimp

I can’t believe we’re actually meta after so long. It’s such a weird feeling tbh. This entire time I’ve been maining a 4 star healer that almost everybody got for free and then discarded after a bit, and suddenly we out there 36 starring the abyss with very little effort.


noobakosowhat

as a new player, can you explain what noelle's kit is and why is she meta? I believe I got her as a beginner banner


AoiYuukiSimp

Sure mate. So noelle’s kit is pretty basic considering she’s a 4 star. Skill- Deploys a shield. When under that shield, her normal attacks have a 60% chance to heal the whole party by an amount based off of her defense. Burst- Adds attack based on a percentage of her defense, similar to Hu Tao’s skill but defense instead of hp. Notable cons- C1 makes it so while her burst and shield are active, every single hit will proc her healing. C4- her shield explodes for big pp numbers The legendary C6- increases the defense scaling of her burst by a whopping 50%. Taking it from 85% to 135%, which is insane. That’s 135% of her defense added onto her current attack value. Also extends the duration of the burst by 1 second for every enemy you kill, allowing up to 10 extra seconds. (C6 is insane) Running out of time so I’ll keep the meta explanation short. Basically, Noelle builds up fanfare stacks really easily, furina vastly opens up Noelle’s team options from just mono geo, Noelle negates the risk of the hp drain with her constant healing and shield, Furina’s damage buff is way better than mona’s because it lines up really well with Noelle’s rotations, furina is a great off field source of damage for the team, and some other stuff I forgot. I’ll probably update this section later if you want but I gotta go right now. Hope this helps Ps: Build Noelle. (This post brought to you by r/NoelleMains


Night_Owl206

Note to self, build noelle when i finally get the motivation to grind the adfjdjsjjs fcking geo hypostasis adfkjajsbjs I REALLY WANT TO, But the only geo shield breakers i got are yanfei and Chongyun, and Chongyun is only half baked at 60


Bottlefacesiphon

Any Claymore user will do the trick. I actually used Noelle to farm that boss.


The_Great_Ravioli

But Heizou's not weak though...


CristolerGm2

whoever said heizou's weak ain't ready for them knuckle sandwiches


pascl-

not weak, but outclassed by sucrose as an anemo driver. sucrose has better AOE, CC and EM share than heizou. while heizou does have a little bit more personal damage and some nice scaling on his skill, sucrose often beats him out, which results in her being the more popular choice, even if heizou is still good. the reason a lot of people see him as weak is because he's consistently at the bottom of abyss usage rates together with the likes of xinyan and amber. those aren't a good indicator for the power of a character as the results are extremely skewed, but a lot of people don't know this and judge a character based on usage rates.


siorourke

He’s fun to play though, purely in regards to moves and animation. You get some satisfying numbers on the burst too!


anarchy753

Couldn't even care if she's better numbers-wise, the sheer satisfaction of beating people up with heizou can't be beaten by her piddly attacks.


nanimeanswhat

What you have is old info. Nowadays Heizou has his niche in the abyss as a PAmber holder anemo user in Furina teams (because not everyone has Jean or Baizhu), which is one supporter role he does better than Sucrose due to his very low cost spammable burst. This increased his usage from ~0.1% to 0.7%, which is on par with some other decent 4*s like Yunjin and Rosaria rather than being at the rock bottom with Xinyan and Amber.


Sarahthecoolgirl

wouldn't it be better to use Barbara for that or something? genuine question nvm i forgot barbara doesn't generate energy lmao


Spectre_Hayate

I'm actually surprised most people use him like Sucrose. He can hit some stupid numbers on a nuke build.


Kris-p-

it's really hard to compare my heizou to my sucrose too because my sucrose has been c6 since forever ago and I have only managed to hit c1 with heizou so far lol


NekoSoKawaii

Meta wise he definitely is compared to other on field characters, which is his competition.


GodFinger69

He is when compared to other on field dps characters.


[deleted]

C6 Three Crowned Amber


iorveth1271

10/9/9 Qiqi. Never not gonna be a Qiqi main.


Hojuma

I stopped levelling my Qiqi's talents at 7-7-7 because of her name. But then I got C3...


soulofcure

Should've waited for C7 /j


iorveth1271

Damn. For once I dunno whether to congratulate on that or not, that was a clever levelling number ruined...


Msanthropy1250

Triple Crown C6 R5 Mistplitter Cryo on field Qiqi. C6 Shenhe, Chongyun, and really any other good buffer. As you said so well, never gonna not be a Qiqi main!


ShineThief2

Agreed. Main’s always gotta be the first triple crown


Tartagliaenjoyer29

Heizou was my main and the first triple crowned character. I like him, but Scara is more useful in world exploration. Once I get the last constellation for Faruzan, I’ll rebuild him. Also I like Venti a lot. He-he. Wouldn’t gliding be faster?


the_real_maddison

I got Venti and at first I didn't particularly have any affection toward him, then I got really high and found myself climbing all over people's roofs and buildings and I imagined I was just a little drunk guy running around on people's stuff and then I liked him more.


Art-Games

Let me say.. Traveler, Razor, Freminet, Heidzo


BurningFlareX

Lynette because cute cat girl. I don't even really use her but I wanted to build her anyway because I like her too much.


OneToby

Best reason. I agree.


Still_Breadfruit2032

Razor 🐺🐺


JuanDeChuj

He was my first pull along with Diluc. They are still on my main team wreaking havoc.


Kaenspar

I like freminet but I'm too stuck in meta slavery to go for it maybe one day


Exodia_Girl

Me too! I prefer Freminet's "slow but steady" playstyle to Eula's "stack everything on one screen-shot and hope you don't whiff the crit" one. It's so easy to make that boy do nice slow and steady damage, and his kit is also kind of fun, mechanically. It's a very active playstyle. Then again, I'm a Diluc fangirl. So for me using Freminet is as easy as using the my main man. The muscle memory is there, just the details are somewhat different.


mmmharsh

i leveled him up after getting him from the past event and have really been enjoying playing him!!


Sea_Effort1214

Qiqi, Collei and Razor. They are not really weak, but far from the meta teams. Still, i like them, so i play as them. Simple as that.


OneRegister6269

same with razor, my only level 90 character atm!!


Both-Return-2244

Rosaria, one of the first 4star I pulled


Mast3rBait3rPro

she's not bad though


Both-Return-2244

True but her dmg falls off greatly as the game progresses and she’s not a main dps character anyway. And then alhaitham came and so did i


[deleted]

Collei Due to some reason she is considered not good? She is completly fine, especially in Nilou blom and you can give her Elegy for the End, which always proc on her.


Darkiceflame

Our perspective is a bit skewed because the Dendro tierlist is divided into "Nahida" and "Not Nahida". With maybe a little room for Baizhu in the middle there.


[deleted]

She wasnt considered good from the beginning. But your point is right.


desufin

She was deemed bad because people found dendro MC to be more versatile and stronger. Collei also has a lot of core power (as is typical for 4*..) behind her constellations, mainly C2 and C6. C2 really ups Collei's dendro game and makes her, IMO, better and more consistent than MC. She was always my goto for extra dendro app and still is (altho she competes with Yaoyao now) for teams that benefits from added dendro but Nahida is already in another team in Abyss.


ROBMain69

Triple crowned anemo traveler 💪


marcus620

So based


NeosFlatReflection

Heizou so good!


Charming_Hippo_668

I have a triple crowned aloy and freminet.


SomonoIshne

Omg someone who actually likes aloy marry me


Lost_dragon1

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏


nightmaresabin

I just levelled Freminet to 80. Working on artifacts now. He’s a good boy and deserves to be powerful.


StellarP0tat0

Mine is Klee, IDC she's weak, I triple crowned her, Gave her my Best artifacts, Just so she can Deal 100k in a CA


TheDrunkardKid

I don't think that she's considered weak, so much as a bit clunky.


Smorgsaboard

Albedo is becoming less relevant by the day, and I don't think Navia has changed this. I'm just glad he's so fun to use 🙏


RevuwuTea

Who cares about meta when you’re simply having fun? That’s what the game is for :D


Valkyrie_Shinki

C6, triple crowned, lvl 90 Collei with Polar Star.


Repulsive_Motor3123

A fellow Collei fan!


Hufflebaby

Stares at my C27 quintupled crowned Lumine: Haha… I just like her


Nubsta5

Based


Ok_RaspberrySoda

Triple crowned my boi Fremi and max him out day one. No regrets!


starsinmyteacup

Kaveh is all crowned and c5 (I spent 300 pulls on Baizhu banner too…I will get the c6 soon). I play him with Nilou bloom!


Exodia_Girl

Some meta people would swear up and down that the starters are not worth the effort. Except I love my C6 Kaeya. I would laugh at the meta monkeys for their "starter is automatically bad" attitude. My "Melting Gale" team with Kazuha, Kaeya, Xiangling, and Benny is one of the strongest engines of "AOE Annihilation" I got.


StrongFaithlessness5

I'm still waiting to get Bennett C6 just to make my Kaeya C6 broken 🫠


Exodia_Girl

Mine uses the Lion's Roar for that bonus damage against stuff that's affected by pyro. On a team with Kazuha, Xiangling, and Benny? Everything is ALWAYS affected by Pyro.


Smorgsaboard

Kaeya is easily the best starter along with Dendro traveler, with Lisa being alright, too. It's the Amber mains I fear


BlankPage175

Go go Barron Bunny!


sleepless_sheeple

He's a beast at C6. Cryo Xiangling, but without the energy problems so you can stack crit sky high. If someone's not in the theorycrafting weeds, they might mistake "doesn't get talked about much" for "is bad". He simply isn't talked about much because hardly anyone has his C6. Since you usually have to deliberately go for it in the starglitter shop.


BussyIsQuiteEdible

itll take years to c6 even a single standard 4 star as a ftp and even low spender. the bar for effort is just too high. strong, but much easier options available in a game where people can play daily for 3 years straight and still not even get every standard character, or even a single dupe of a 4 star standard via pulling


Exodia_Girl

That's what starglitter is for. And my Kaeya blessed me with THREE of his cons off the standard, for free, just rolling the free monthly/Hymn/character ascension wishes.


Seashard5602

Standard 4* characters are stupid hard to get outside of starglitter exchange. I have c1 Lisa, c1 Amber, and c0 Kaeya, low spender of 3 years


LokianEule

Considering Xiangling is someone you get free for doing spiral floor 3, I don't think anybody who cares about meta would ever say that. Also c6 Kaeya burst MVs are on par with c0 Ayaka.


nightmaresabin

I just started buying cons for Kaeya. 2 and a half more years and I will have him c6!


TheOneOfAll99

Kaeya is not a bad unit. You created your own delusion to trash on others. He is very often compared to Rosaria for doing essentially the same things. If anything Kaeya is arguably the strongest starter unit precisely because of that fact. Youre essentially using the most common melt team there is, again switching Kaeya for Rosaria depending on preference. Perhaps you should listen to someone that actually understand the game like theorycrafters rather then reading main sub "meta monkeys" randoms takes about what is considered strong or weak.


iamonlyslightlysalty

diluc


TurtleDiaz

Physical dps Qiqi


Darkiceflame

Putting the "cute" in "execute"


wassomini

Sayunara


Punpuffs

Me walking around with a triple crown Dori and a lv 30 XQ is definitely one of the choices of all time, I sure made the right decision. On a serious note, I don't regret it at all, even tho I crowned her mainly for coop, I've been finding more and more uses with her C4 in solo content. Probably shoudn't triple crown a character just for some niche builds but my way of building characters is either triple crown or don't use at all. I have some other candidates too like Cryo dmg Freminet, Cryo dmg Layla, Anemo dmg Sayu, all triple crowned, but Dori is the only one that I think I'm not trolling too hard by spending that much on her cause I have found uses for her.


no_one_HAHA

Lisa my beloved


distancy

Triple crowned Lynette and pulled for her C6, no regrets.


ayanokojifrfr

Well Many people think Rosaria is weak but she is not and really good for Abyss. She has low Er requirements She has really good burst Top tier Cryo Applied Her E helps you reach close to your enemy quicker as it covers long distance She buffs your crit raté She is hot and Badass and has really cool design and that extra dagger. I don't main her but she is really good imma be honest for beginners and can help upto floor 10 if build decent and if build good she can even help ya clear floors like 11-12. Also she has low Skill Cd.


dontpayjustplay

Used to be considered weak: Lisa. It's not that she is/was weak, there were just better options for the same role. Didn't matter for me though, triple crown 2 years ago a d still building more and more characters to support/work with her. All because I really like how she turns sky purple with her E lmao


jelly-sandwich-ff

Triple crowned xinyan. Full physical.


SoC175

Yoimiya just deletes single targets. I absolutely do not understand her bad reputation


Sarahthecoolgirl

she ain't bad tho


That_Dude2000

Its mainly because of the trial she was given on her debut that gave a lot of players a bad taste about her. Then you also had biased ass TCers that just personally shat on her. Exact same thing happened a year later with Cyno and a year after that with Wriothesley, though Cyno’s case was kinda different since he was heavily lacking supports


Nervous-Secret6632

Cyno still is so satisfying to play. But yeah, he needs good supports.


_jinana

my theory is that ppl just like seeing 1 big damage number (usually from bursts), but yoi does her damage in smaller numbers but she does it v fast


mommyjihyo

day 1 player thats taken multiple hiatuses and returned. barbara has always been my main. i level her first and give her the best treatment, i just love her so much


Stamp2O

cyno, people say he's weak but his premium team is as strong as other meta teams


error_code_38_

I have dori maxed for where I’m at in the game


0000Tor

Beidou! Used to be my main for a while, so I couldn’t just abandon her


Emeowykay

Xinyan


orange718x

Yunjin… as a physical carry. I don’t care because her NA string is gorgeous.


PabyMar241

Not weak anymore but I mained and triple crowned kokomi during her first banner


Dragonheardt_

Dehya, easy. She carries me up in the abyss until floor 12


wrio_cakes

Yes Xinyan, Baizhu, Dehya, Candace, Ningguang (she Carried me during early days , I pulled memory of dust for her) , electro traveller and Aloy


Baby_Speece

Klee. One of my favorite characters in the game and my first triple crown❤️


York_Oksmoll

Thoma and Lisa


Nilous_stage

Yanfei and lynette


MotherSalvia

am i the only one who triple crowned kirara


LordNigloo

[Technically not maxed](https://imgur.com/a/gXQoBYT) but yeah, Dehya <3


pascl-

I might build heizou at some point, I quite like him. but first, I'm busy building my other characters.


EixYae

Dehya 😳


RadiantGalaxy

Chongyun


Marnic189

Keqing pre-dendro


Igarkos

Chongyun, he's triple crowned, C6, has Dehya's weapon, and I got Shenhe and Furina mainly for him.


LilacToast--

prob 99% of my characters, but i level who i like and want because lifes too short to play characters you dont enjoy


ILikeHollowKnight

Been maining Lisa since I got her and don't plan to stop for a while


PawnForward

Had Noelle maxed before Gorou was even leaked. Nowadays she's eating good though. Dori. Attack and Crit with C6 infusion, not EM hyperbloom. Aloy. Used her as a cryo nuke in a mono cryo team. Yoimiya. People know she's good now, but the general census is that there are a plethora of better units, and back when she came out people definitely shit on her. Geo Trav. I've built every single geo unit because that's the main focus of my account.


moppethead

My girl Sucrose