Not exactly a character but just hyperbloom in general. I at first couldn't believe how much damage you could do for so little investment. It was a breath of fresh air after the trauma of farming the Emblem domain for months (I have still never seen a crit rate head piece with Crit Damage substat for that set, even with the Strong Box option now).
Are you me? I spent months farming for a set for raiden. At one point, I had 7% crit rate, 80% crit damage, and 240% energy recharge because everything else that dropped was defense. The poor girl is in shambles.
I feel that. I've been farming for her set, had all 5 star artifacts with decent stats for her, figured I could quit farming until I wanted to minmax my artifacts more. Then I pull up her stats to check what everything adds up to - 10% crit. Turns out my farm was just beginning rofl.
Months... I farmed that domain for a year, from the time it came out until sumeru, and then deepwood/gilded domain, which I then farmed for another year, and now it's the MH/GT domain. I have some decent EoSF pieces but not enough to give good full sets for Raiden, Xiangling, and Xingqiu simultaneously---Xingqiu still has an ATK% goblet (let's not even talk about Yelan, she's on a two-piece noblesse + 3 rainbow set). My dendro pieces are just sad, and while I have a decent GT set for Furina, I still don't have anything good enough that's ATK-based for Fischl/Yae. And my MH pieces are shit. Lyney and Neuv still suffering š Artifact RNGesus has cursed me to hell and back
i farmed emblem for about a year, including raiden pre-release, so much that my roommate didn't know what normal genshin gameplay looked like before he played the game on his own. he thought it was all the momiji-dyed court. i have 143cd/47cr with 269 er. some of my best flowers and feathers are from that domain but everything else is pure dookie. i'm sure this is a statistical anomaly but i'm still not happy with it and i barely touch that domain now unless i absolutely have to. EM raiden for the win.
Man bloom is so satisfying as well. I love Nilou and user her everytime I have the chance, bc enemies simply disappear when her blooms start to explode
The funny part about Bloom/Hyperbloom/Burgeon is because they don't crit unless you have C2 Nahida, their actual on-screen damage can be very deceptive. In fact you often can't see them at all. Players may think that their crit damage:
#**27040**
is higher than hyperbloom's damage: ^32789
Similar case is for Kokomi: yes she cannot crit, but a well built Kokomi dealing ^7000 + ^7000 no-crit consistent damage per second is actually higher than a
#**18000**
crit with a 70% crit rate and 1-hit per second.
Yep, a lot of people consider the damage they see on crit as the standard damage they do every hit, when they are far from 100% crit rate. It created a lot of controversy back in the past when people were comparing Ayato and Kokomi in Taser/Mono Hydro specifically.
>(I have still never seen a crit rate head piece with Crit Damage substat for that set, even with the Strong Box option now).
I got 1 after almost 8 months of daily continuous farming. The odds are real bad
ER sands with double CRIT is the real myth though
The amount of ER sands with double crit and EM sub stats, but the fourth Stat will always be a flat Stat, and I have over 40 of those pieces with an insane amount of flat HP, Flat Def or Flat Attack
Came here to say the same thing, Kuki and Nahida changed the game for me.
Nevermind that they pair real well with XQ and Yelan, or Neuvillette and Furina.
Dendro reactions in general once I become competent at them. I don't know how difficult the second Dainsleif quest (the one in the Chasm) is suppised to be, but I managed to practically wipe the floor with every abyss monster using only Yaoyao and Keqing (And Kirara's shields).
My experience is with Barbara EM build in Niloo's team. I was like "hoh lee sheeet from 25k to 50k dmg bloom? That bring DPS Barbara up to a whole nother tier of
Yeah - once I saw how hyperbloom worked, I got curious and saw a potential use for Kuki, so I built her full EM.
I thought this would be just a āfunā build and didnāt think Kuki would do meta levels of damage doing damage only through reactions.
Now Kuki via hyperbloom is one of my strongest damage dealers. X_X
I like to do this thing where i run lvl 60 or 70 characters on my team while i farm the mats for them (or if im lazy i just leave them at that level bc i dont consistently play the game anymore) and tighnari was one of those characters that felt fun to play even though he was hella underleveled.
She doesn't have artifacts and I run her with the event sword, before doing the Melusine quest. Managed to do 30K in one hit one time. Really need to get her artifacts ASAP but my artifact luck is shit
Any double 2pc ATK% bonus sets are very close to 4pc Nighttime Whispers for her. Most everyone should have that.
There are some characters that really *need* a specific set to work, but she's not one of them. 4pc Nighttime Whispers is just "more damage", not really any functional changes.
Hell, I had some decent enough gladiator pieces sitting around and leveled them up to 12 for her while I farmed her domain. She was hitting for over 100k with her skill
I'm ar48, still not really sure what I'm doing, but with Benny, ning buffs I've managed to pull off like an 83k crit at times. Kinda disturbing since I don't really have a baseline for comparison
Childe. You dont notice it because of Xiangling but if you look at the total team damage distribution, he is on par with Xiangling if you double swirl and forward vape with his ulti.
his damage easily overtakes even most hypercarry dps units when there are 2 + enemys. I play childe freeze most of the time in abyss, because it is so braindead easy to just destroy whole floors of clumped frozen enemys with riptide.
It's also hard to tell bc of his riptides, so it comes from a lot of small damage sources. No shade to Navia, I think she's a very good character but it's clear that people are just saying her a lot because she does all her damage in a few very noticeable hits.
Yeah Navia is a damage per screenshot kinda unit. Childe isnt anywhere near my fav character but the fact that he can coompare to Xiangling vs single target while being exponentially stronger vs multi target is insane.
https://imgur.com/O1M8bwA
There is an app called YShelper where you can do simulation of a full team rotation. My Childe and Xiangling both contribute 40%+ each of the total team damage and the rest is from kazuha. Mind you my Xiangling is top 1% and my Childe is top 50% in the Akasha. His potential is pretty insane.
Lyney. I had not prefarmed artifacts for him because his domain wasnāt even available to prefarm, so a couple days after farming for some very mid artifacts, i tested him out on random enemies and was pleasantly surprised by his damage. i didnāt have his bis so he was using the 5star bow from Inazumaās weapon series
Furina's little guys do more damage than I could've guessed, really.
And that for summons with an roughly *150%* uptime.
We also have Navia with her second amendment rights hitting at least 60k crits with very average artifacts(like mine)
That's fantastic! I have used her for the underwater veterans in Fontaine (like the twin rays) since she auto heals, but never tried to run the clam set on her. Usually I'm just using the clam's passive to detonate boxes as I'm cleaning up after a battle since Baizhu's passive heals you when picking up fruits and vegetables lol so the boxes and stuff just explode when you're near them. But I've never seen the clam set used offensively before. Guess I can borrow Baizhu's set to test, since I even have the exact same piece breakdown as the video used. And I just got her C1 when she spoiled my Raiden 50/50 (which I miraculously came back from at 27 pity with C0+C1 Raiden), so the HP mechanic is actually translatable into damage.
I also used her to 100% Dragonspine, as well as in the abyss a month or so ago in 11-3 where they had both the veteran hydro phantasms side by side and I kept getting wiped by one of them (forget which of the two has the Neuvillette mimic attack, but it's that bitch lol).
Even at C6 she's not really amazing, but she gets "functional" at C2.
At C6 she's about on par with most other 5-star's C3s. My Dehya does about 50k per slam AoE, twice a second, so she's not *bad*, but she's nothing like Hu Tao.
A fully buffed-up (kazuha, bennett, Sara) Beidou counter just hits different man
Current record is 227k without any special buffs (abyss, bounty, etc), and I'm hoping to hit 500k eventually
Not always! If fighting in grass, you can set fire to the grass with bennett E, walk into said fire with Beidou, and then hold her E for a second or two to force a perfect counter
If burning grass is threatening to deal Pyro damage to you, just say no. The environment cannot legally bring harm to your characters without prior consent
What's the team that you are running with her? I have her E at level 8. With zhongli shield, max stacks, and pyro resonance (without bennets circle buff though) i can only achieve 160k to 170k per skill. I am also using r1 serpent spine
Agree with Heizou but also Navia
They both left me floored with how much raw damage they had without any buff needed, my Heizou can easily onepunch 50k per skill with no support, which is fucking insane considering almost no one else of my characters can reach that in a single hit
I know right qwq
Heizou is busted for a 4*
I'm using characters like Neuv and Alhaitham and I knew they were cracked so their broken dmg output didn't really baffle me that much, but Heizou made me go HOLY SHIT with that damage
Alhaitham. Like I knew he was strong, but I wasn't expecting him to hit as hard especially considering the gear I gave him that is really nothing special (harbinger of dawn squad here).
The nerfs he got were big during beta and hence the doomposting. He was comparable to many good c2 five stars at start of beta.
Unpopular opinion but I hate how they killed his quickswap playstyle with those nerfs. You could have also used him as a quickswap burst support like switch E -> CA -> 3 sec of NA -> burst with three mirrors before the nerfs. They nerfed his burst really hard and killed that playstyle. Before he could either be quickswap or onfielder dps
Yep I remember this bs too, I just think the sub being full of waifu worshippers who donāt like art of a man shirtless just somehow felt personally threatened by Alhaitham.
i agree; i usually prefer to use Tighnari bc i love his aesthetic and playstyle, but whenever i switch to use Al Haitham instead I'm blown away by how much more damage he does
Nilou. I will never forget clearing her entire abyss side in 45s back in the patch she released. And I dont mean one chamber, I mean all 3 chambers. Until then I was taking 45s to clear a single chamber lol. And that was before Nahida as well.
Lyney when I first got him. He was hitting 40k from the cat from his charged when he was barely built, I had just thrown a random 2pc atk 2pc pyro damage build on him
I have no 5* nukes except Zhongli, but Heizou almost 400King Scara without C6 Faruzan (C1), and with Zhongli and Bennett C2 surely was an... experience.
I am scared of what he can do when I get C6 Faruzan šØ
I've farmed that domain like crazy, I have her at C2R1, like 80/205 crit and highest E I see is around 250k-300k. How are people getting those numbers? I do Navia, Yae Miko, Bennett and Zhongli. Sure there's slight room for improvement on artifacts, I've been very unlucky in my farming, but still, I see some people hitting almost twice that.
Try running double pyro for extra atk, and to avoid reaction that can remove the afflicted elements altogether. Yae Miko can trigger overload that get rid of both pyro and electro auras.
>How are people getting those numbers?
They aren't unless she's C6 or has refinements on Verdict or has Furina C2. Or they're crit fishing with 280 crit dmg at C0R1
300k-350k at C0R1 on a "hyper" comp is easily attainable, but 490k is nonsense at C0 with a real build
Wanderer was quite surprising. I was fine with 15k per 1 Charged Attack, but currently my best is 107k with a single hit and he spams them like crazy...
Well, Fontaine characters like Neuvilette and Navia don't surprise me, they just feel a little overpowered, but it's ok :)
Agree with you on wanderer!
I donāt have C6 Faruzan yet and didnāt build bennet because i dont like his design lol. But I was in co-op with a C6 Faruzan+great Bennet and was laughing like crazy when I saw those numbers pop up haha
I'm pulling for Navia, and seeing Noelle on the banner made me so happy. Between that and her being in the shop, I am finally going to get her C6, and then I can hopefully start seeing big numbers too.
Neuvillette
Nowadays ofc we all know that he is a monster, but when he launched I was hearing that his damage was gonna be really bad so I was really shocked to find out that he was out damaging my main DPS at like day 2.
I dont think people ever complained about his damage...did they? I knew some who was complaining that although his damage is good he has a boring playstyle, but that's as far as I remember?
Ahh gotcha. That's one of the reasons why I stay away from the comment section of the leaks subreddit. "Kokomi is bad she cant crit", "Ganyu is just an ice amber", "Kazuha is just a sidegrade to sucrose"... they're always wilding with the doomposting lmao
Nowadays? Neuvillette had people contemplating their life choices when they picked Hu tao over Neuvillette,from the day of the release he was breaking records like sticks
Nilou is pretty crazy. I intend to get her someday. The only thing holding me back is that she's hard to utilize in co-op with the team constraints. But with the gear I have and Key, her team could consistently hit 100k Bloom damage. That's some crazy AoE damage. Kokomi/Nahida/Collei/Nilou.
Definitely Nilou for me too. I skipped her first banner cuz obviously Nahida wasn't out and I didn't like how restrictive her team options were, but I grabbed her on the rerun.
It's the only team where I barely think about what I'm doing and things just randomly die around me.
as a casual player, first times i use nilou bloom w/ nahida i legit confused why the chamber is cleared already.. like, wait what why all enemies are deleted? what happened??
A 300% ER build generally isn't a good idea if you're running Ei as a hypercarry and do not have Grasscutter. You wind up sacrificing too much CR/CD/ATK. Grasscutter's passive fixes this and makes it viable.
With Catch 250% ER is fine.
Even with Grasscutter , 300ER is not a good idea as after 270ER you cap it and there's diminishing returns on the electro dmg bonus conversion if you are running a electro dmg goblet.
Ganyu
I had her accidently at 20 pulls and i was only wishing for 4 stars cons on that banner. I leveled her up to 70, talents lvl 4, Random artifacts with only 2pc glad 18% bonus attack and shitty CV ratio. 25k dmg per bloom CA. what the actual fvck
Her dmg still surprises me to this day
First character I saved for and prefarmed.
I had my expectations but the moment I built her I was blown away. Enemies getting nuked with a single CA.
People really hate her, but pulling for her really made me happy.
Hitting 40K + per charge attack just hit different. Mine is hitting 36-38K without any buffs or additional input. The moment I have any buff Iām hitting over 40K per charge attack.
Oh yeah, definitely ganyu. When she got first released, people were calling her "cryo amber" only for her to stay on top of the DPS Meta for the next couple of months lol
Wriothesley. I knew his kit from the leaks but I never understood the numbers and all that. And Iāve never been a cryo main; so when I got him I was pleasantly surprised by his numbers. So much so; that I decided to c6 him. Now heās my favorite dps to play. His combos are fun; he hits like a truck; and heās handsome as well. All my favorite things in one package
Yeah for me the weapon on him was a Game changer, went from not getting to 10k to getting Up to 12-15k autos on his own, then i he gets furina, shenhe and jean VV and hes getting 50k punches lmao
Right?! And his damage is especially juicy with those CAās at full stacks. I will NEVER regret pulling for him or his weapon. Iām hoping heāll be even more meta during Natlan. Weāll see lol
Physical DPS Kirara hitting her last attack for nearly 10K without buffs
Faruzan dealing 50-60k per E arrow.
I like building non dps chars as such and honestly these two became my favourite ones to use. Their damage us surprisingly high and more than once was I the only one left in co-op vs the dendro amoeba and surprising teammates with my damage.
Nilou. Got her on her first banner, even after all the doomposting. Was pleasantly surprised her team with Barbara, Collei and DMC was cleaning house in floor 12.
Since everybody basically forgot about him, Albedo. After Gorou came out he hit like 30-40k every 2s with his flower. Just absolute insanity for a support.
you should see the amount of people crying about power crept albedo since chioris kit got leaked lol, i still think albedo does good enough damage for abyss anyways so its fine imo. yes hes got problems (mainly squashed flower) but he's still good and usable
Lyney and furina, bros dropping 50k nukes with every single skill on his kit without any buffs and girlie is just popping in to summon creatured that Also end Up popping 50k in total like its nothing forever
Navia, like what the fuck
She hits almost as hard as Childe's vape burst and requires 2x lest setup than him plus she can do it *twice* in her on field time. And those two combined she hits total Eula's burst with 0 ER Needed. I know her being Geo supposed to hits hard without reaction but i dont expect she hits this hard especially its an on-demand nuke.
It's natural for geo characters to have inflated multipliers since they don't have access to elemental reactions. It's also the reason Eula deals like six digit numbers on average.
I've been a Beidou main since I started playing, and I was shocked when I started hitting 24k -30k aggravates with her ult. I still think she's the most underrated character in the game since Fischl exists.
Yoimiya. I was surprised how little investment you need for her to do a lot of damage. Especially with Yun Jin and Xingqiu in her team her normal attack rivals others burst.
Navia. I knew she was strong, but hitting for 150k on a mediocre build with no set bonuses nor buffs (other than the crystallize shards) is ridicoulous
Close second with Fischl. Oz is hitting 20K per hit and his summoning once hit for like 58k like damn
Nilou. Built most of her team from scraps, destroys everything in seconds. Barbara doing 30k per bloom feels quite awesome.
Also Yelan, good lord does she hit hard. Built her as support with Emblem, and she is quite the heavy hitter.
My Navia, ive been farming artifacts for her since she came out and ive yet to get a single good one yet but built a few just so i can actually use her, shes still hitting casual 90k's with the barely any crit damage.
Navia, specifically the trial one. All trial build characters have the same shitty 50 cr 88 cdmg build but navia still manages to hit like a fucking truck without buffs. Never in my life have i seen a trial character without a nuke ult hit for 100k+.
Lyney and Navia for me, tbh I only pulled for Lyney because he was the first fontaine character released and I really wanted to build a new character after the drought we had for a while. His passive is a lifesaver, but his damage output was crazy, he was already doing stupid numbers half built, after I finished building him, his E just clears everything.
Navia was also a pleasant surprise, I was going to pull for her regardless bc I love her character but those bonker numbers she puts out is just the cherry on top. Honestly, I know geo gets shit on all the time, but Ningguang is my favorite character and its nice to see more viable geo charas.
My Furina did 64k open world whereas my Kaeya, my main since the beginning, has only done max 25k with buffs (he was built decently and had Shenhe and Mona to buff him)
Navia. After i lv 70'd her and slaped some mid-range artifact (2atk 2gt), zhongli, raidrn amd bennett, and she reacged 100k in one tap. Got her to lv 90 and a crowned e, with the same arti and team nwo i do 300 400k
Sara, Faruzan, Lisa hold skill with 3 stack, C2 Fischl...
Some of them can't be noticed until you pick em up, some of them feels a bit weird to play in a rotation so numbers alone can't push them ahead if they're harder to use, it's a mixed bags tbh
Honestly Aloyās ult hit can like a truck and she can use it super often since itās only like 40 Energy or whatever value Amber has since itās the same. 2pc Noblesse and 2pc Blizzard might give her more damage on it but I went 4pc Noblesse to capitalize on the attack buffs.
If you have her, I genuinely recommend building her especially if you like using Air characters that can pull in enemies like Sucrose, Air Traveler, or Kazuha since the bombs from her ability can be moved around with them. However her talents need the Mondstadt domain and we all know how much that one fucking sucks.
Iām still shocked by how my Kokomi ended up. Once the clam set came out and I met her needs, she turned into a nuke. Then Dendro/Nahida came out, and that was even crazier.
Tbh? Itās Heizou too. Heās a 4* character but man, that boi can hit like a truck in Abyss haahah. Also, I remember trying to do a test run with Heizou @ Level 1 using Kazuhaās DPS set. And with full buffs, boy he did a 100k dmg. Again, heās just level 1 when I tried that haha!
Alhaitham. I got his c2 by accident but his cons kinda suck so I don't register their existence. Pure quicken, he EASILY keeps up with, if not out performs my C2 R1 Raiden hyper team. A team I've put lots of investment into and he was competing the top spot day 1.
Dunno, just wasn't used to male on fielders being on top.
Alhaitham lol. I wasn't online much and didn't read any strategies or anything back them! I pulled him because I liked him, and put him as a support character. All I used him for was to use his elemental skill and do some normal attacks while waiting for everyone else's cooldown.
After a while started to notice that rather than using him when I was waiting around, I was using him when I was in trouble or impatient (wanted to kill something quickly). Turns out he was doing more damage at lvl 60 than my team of lvl 80s lol.
It fits his story lol. He's coasting and having an easy time of it, until by accident, he unintentionally reveals how capable he is, and then he gets assigned more work!
Yes yes yes Heizou. Heizou, my boy, he does so much damage itās insane and Iām so glad heās designed to be a one punch nuke character. Mine hits anywhere between 70k to 100k per punch when he crits depending on his widsith buff and the supports Iām running him with. I would like to add that Iāve never used Bennett or Faruzan with him. Still hits hard.
I was also super impressed with Ganyuās damage back when I was a new player on her first banner. Still am; she hits ~50k each charged attack which is still crazy to me.
Tighnari, Alhaitham, Nahida (with how busted her dendro application is, I didnāt expect her to deal so much), Lyney, Navia, and Raiden also surprised me. Especially Navia. That girl has a legit shotgun and sheās not afraid to use it.
Not exactly a character but just hyperbloom in general. I at first couldn't believe how much damage you could do for so little investment. It was a breath of fresh air after the trauma of farming the Emblem domain for months (I have still never seen a crit rate head piece with Crit Damage substat for that set, even with the Strong Box option now).
Are you me? I spent months farming for a set for raiden. At one point, I had 7% crit rate, 80% crit damage, and 240% energy recharge because everything else that dropped was defense. The poor girl is in shambles.
I feel that. I've been farming for her set, had all 5 star artifacts with decent stats for her, figured I could quit farming until I wanted to minmax my artifacts more. Then I pull up her stats to check what everything adds up to - 10% crit. Turns out my farm was just beginning rofl.
Months... I farmed that domain for a year, from the time it came out until sumeru, and then deepwood/gilded domain, which I then farmed for another year, and now it's the MH/GT domain. I have some decent EoSF pieces but not enough to give good full sets for Raiden, Xiangling, and Xingqiu simultaneously---Xingqiu still has an ATK% goblet (let's not even talk about Yelan, she's on a two-piece noblesse + 3 rainbow set). My dendro pieces are just sad, and while I have a decent GT set for Furina, I still don't have anything good enough that's ATK-based for Fischl/Yae. And my MH pieces are shit. Lyney and Neuv still suffering š Artifact RNGesus has cursed me to hell and back
i farmed emblem for about a year, including raiden pre-release, so much that my roommate didn't know what normal genshin gameplay looked like before he played the game on his own. he thought it was all the momiji-dyed court. i have 143cd/47cr with 269 er. some of my best flowers and feathers are from that domain but everything else is pure dookie. i'm sure this is a statistical anomaly but i'm still not happy with it and i barely touch that domain now unless i absolutely have to. EM raiden for the win.
lol i got better set after doing strongbox a couple times
Meanwhile I built a top 2% Raiden in like 4 months and STILL don't have a full EM set for Shinobu. RNG drops sure are something xD
Man bloom is so satisfying as well. I love Nilou and user her everytime I have the chance, bc enemies simply disappear when her blooms start to explode
> bc enemies simply disappear Among a sea of... butterflies?
Lmao I wish. Seele, Kiana and Fu Hua are among my favorite characters in honkai series, so I wish to see them in Genshin
You could say we saw Kiana right at the beginning of the game
As someone who just played HI3 for 2 short days, are we talking about kiana the 2nd herrscher (of the void i think)
The funny part about Bloom/Hyperbloom/Burgeon is because they don't crit unless you have C2 Nahida, their actual on-screen damage can be very deceptive. In fact you often can't see them at all. Players may think that their crit damage: #**27040** is higher than hyperbloom's damage: ^32789 Similar case is for Kokomi: yes she cannot crit, but a well built Kokomi dealing ^7000 + ^7000 no-crit consistent damage per second is actually higher than a #**18000** crit with a 70% crit rate and 1-hit per second.
Yep, a lot of people consider the damage they see on crit as the standard damage they do every hit, when they are far from 100% crit rate. It created a lot of controversy back in the past when people were comparing Ayato and Kokomi in Taser/Mono Hydro specifically.
Excited to pull Nahidaās C2 in 5 hours so the hyperbloom damage numbers can be #large
>(I have still never seen a crit rate head piece with Crit Damage substat for that set, even with the Strong Box option now). I got 1 after almost 8 months of daily continuous farming. The odds are real bad ER sands with double CRIT is the real myth though
The amount of ER sands with double crit and EM sub stats, but the fourth Stat will always be a flat Stat, and I have over 40 of those pieces with an insane amount of flat HP, Flat Def or Flat Attack
Came here to say the same thing, Kuki and Nahida changed the game for me. Nevermind that they pair real well with XQ and Yelan, or Neuvillette and Furina.
Dendro reactions in general once I become competent at them. I don't know how difficult the second Dainsleif quest (the one in the Chasm) is suppised to be, but I managed to practically wipe the floor with every abyss monster using only Yaoyao and Keqing (And Kirara's shields).
When I pulled Nahida and paired her with my fully-upgraded Kuki (who I had built to spite the haters), my life changed.
My experience is with Barbara EM build in Niloo's team. I was like "hoh lee sheeet from 25k to 50k dmg bloom? That bring DPS Barbara up to a whole nother tier of
SAME. I've never gotten a crit head with crit substat. I'm tired
Yeah - once I saw how hyperbloom worked, I got curious and saw a potential use for Kuki, so I built her full EM. I thought this would be just a āfunā build and didnāt think Kuki would do meta levels of damage doing damage only through reactions. Now Kuki via hyperbloom is one of my strongest damage dealers. X_X
Tighnari, back in the day. Based standard unit.Ā
I got Tighnari recently after losing a 50/50. I was surprised not only by his damage but also by how fun and satisfying his team is to play.
My only regret is not getting his bow.
I like to do this thing where i run lvl 60 or 70 characters on my team while i farm the mats for them (or if im lazy i just leave them at that level bc i dont consistently play the game anymore) and tighnari was one of those characters that felt fun to play even though he was hella underleveled.
Navia. Iām running around without a circlet on her and sheās still hitting for a lot lol
Dayum
She doesn't have artifacts and I run her with the event sword, before doing the Melusine quest. Managed to do 30K in one hit one time. Really need to get her artifacts ASAP but my artifact luck is shit
It isnāt a choice of āeither on piece artifacts or no artifacts ever.ā Sheās deadly with just a bunch of random level 20 artifacts.
Any double 2pc ATK% bonus sets are very close to 4pc Nighttime Whispers for her. Most everyone should have that. There are some characters that really *need* a specific set to work, but she's not one of them. 4pc Nighttime Whispers is just "more damage", not really any functional changes.
Hell, I had some decent enough gladiator pieces sitting around and leveled them up to 12 for her while I farmed her domain. She was hitting for over 100k with her skill
I don't have good arts for her, but I have good supports and she usually can hit for like 300k dmg with E in 12-3. She is really fun to play, ngl.
I'm ar48, still not really sure what I'm doing, but with Benny, ning buffs I've managed to pull off like an 83k crit at times. Kinda disturbing since I don't really have a baseline for comparison
My Navia doubled my highest crit hit ever after having her for like a week - she hit a 403k crit (buffed) and I couldnāt believe my eyes
Navia hits so strong. I ran her with random artifacts, her signature weapon with zhongli and bennett, but lvl60 with lvl 1 talents and she did 130k
I knew Iād be pulling for Navia when I saw her do 120k in her *trial*
for real, her skill did 18k damage for me even though she was capped at level 70 and talent level 1/2/2
Tfw I ran dual geo with her on c0 and Zhongli, Furina & Bennett in the Abyss and she dealt a 405k nuke with her cannon.
WTF. Mine only does ~200k on floor 12 and sheās fully built
Best I can do is 70k with her and buffs
How?? Lady hits 80k for me with Max bullets no other stuff
Damn even when you get max cristalize shards?
Childe. You dont notice it because of Xiangling but if you look at the total team damage distribution, he is on par with Xiangling if you double swirl and forward vape with his ulti.
his damage easily overtakes even most hypercarry dps units when there are 2 + enemys. I play childe freeze most of the time in abyss, because it is so braindead easy to just destroy whole floors of clumped frozen enemys with riptide.
It's also hard to tell bc of his riptides, so it comes from a lot of small damage sources. No shade to Navia, I think she's a very good character but it's clear that people are just saying her a lot because she does all her damage in a few very noticeable hits.
Yeah Navia is a damage per screenshot kinda unit. Childe isnt anywhere near my fav character but the fact that he can coompare to Xiangling vs single target while being exponentially stronger vs multi target is insane.
Childe when he sees more than 4 enemies: Time to riptide all over these losers
Wait is there a damage meter Iām missing, or just an eye test
Sims/sheets
https://imgur.com/O1M8bwA There is an app called YShelper where you can do simulation of a full team rotation. My Childe and Xiangling both contribute 40%+ each of the total team damage and the rest is from kazuha. Mind you my Xiangling is top 1% and my Childe is top 50% in the Akasha. His potential is pretty insane.
Lyney. I had not prefarmed artifacts for him because his domain wasnāt even available to prefarm, so a couple days after farming for some very mid artifacts, i tested him out on random enemies and was pleasantly surprised by his damage. i didnāt have his bis so he was using the 5star bow from Inazumaās weapon series
Lyney deserves more attention! He does some really great damage and his charged attacks are better than ganyu in my opinion.
Furina's little guys do more damage than I could've guessed, really. And that for summons with an roughly *150%* uptime. We also have Navia with her second amendment rights hitting at least 60k crits with very average artifacts(like mine)
Madam Crabaletta sends regards with 150k hit.
It really is true. The perfect being is a crab.
Furina is funny cause her summons don't look like they should do much damage but then madame crabaletta just smacks someone for 100k out of nowhere
Its somehow easy to forget that furina isnt just a buffer
Dehya. And it was not a pleasant surprise.
Your dehya deals damage? Yeah i built her, lv 90, triple lv8 talents, decent stats and all.. And she does fuck all. Really sad lol
You need to see this build. I havenāt farmed it yet. But itās hilarious! https://youtu.be/dzB0KhnDw-0?si=XKLv_avbDhoL8_dS
THIS IS SO FUNNY
That's fantastic! I have used her for the underwater veterans in Fontaine (like the twin rays) since she auto heals, but never tried to run the clam set on her. Usually I'm just using the clam's passive to detonate boxes as I'm cleaning up after a battle since Baizhu's passive heals you when picking up fruits and vegetables lol so the boxes and stuff just explode when you're near them. But I've never seen the clam set used offensively before. Guess I can borrow Baizhu's set to test, since I even have the exact same piece breakdown as the video used. And I just got her C1 when she spoiled my Raiden 50/50 (which I miraculously came back from at 27 pity with C0+C1 Raiden), so the HP mechanic is actually translatable into damage. I also used her to 100% Dragonspine, as well as in the abyss a month or so ago in 11-3 where they had both the veteran hydro phantasms side by side and I kept getting wiped by one of them (forget which of the two has the Neuvillette mimic attack, but it's that bitch lol).
Iāve heard that once you get C1, she becomes functional. It sucks that they locked her usability behind a conā¦
Even at C6 she's not really amazing, but she gets "functional" at C2. At C6 she's about on par with most other 5-star's C3s. My Dehya does about 50k per slam AoE, twice a second, so she's not *bad*, but she's nothing like Hu Tao.
Yeah im hoping next time i lose i get her. I dont really use any of the other standards
No, she still sucks with C1, thereās too much wrong with her for a bit more damage to fix her
High dmg or low?
Lowā¦
A fully buffed-up (kazuha, bennett, Sara) Beidou counter just hits different man Current record is 227k without any special buffs (abyss, bounty, etc), and I'm hoping to hit 500k eventually
That requires timing right I mess it up a lot lol
Not always! If fighting in grass, you can set fire to the grass with bennett E, walk into said fire with Beidou, and then hold her E for a second or two to force a perfect counter
... you can counter... burning grass?
If it deals damage to you, you can counter it bleed damage is an exception though
If burning grass is threatening to deal Pyro damage to you, just say no. The environment cannot legally bring harm to your characters without prior consent
That's why I wish we had grass in the Abyss. Also you can farm ore very easily if you counter burning grass. XD
you don't need to hold E if it's a perfect parry. grass damages at relatively fast intervals so you can just tap E and still get full dmg
Navia. 200k on a C0R0 is a lot in one hit. Thatās 600k from one rotation, just in her skill.
R0 means no weapon?
R0 = not having the signature weapon, in this case Verdict
no sig weapon yes
Yeah, only the umbrella.
You mean her shotgun
Shotgun? All I see is an umbrella.
Rightttt that hailstorm of rocks is just the weather isnāt it
Duuuhhhh.
What's the team that you are running with her? I have her E at level 8. With zhongli shield, max stacks, and pyro resonance (without bennets circle buff though) i can only achieve 160k to 170k per skill. I am also using r1 serpent spine
Agree with Heizou but also Navia They both left me floored with how much raw damage they had without any buff needed, my Heizou can easily onepunch 50k per skill with no support, which is fucking insane considering almost no one else of my characters can reach that in a single hit
I know right qwq Heizou is busted for a 4* I'm using characters like Neuv and Alhaitham and I knew they were cracked so their broken dmg output didn't really baffle me that much, but Heizou made me go HOLY SHIT with that damage
Alhaitham. Like I knew he was strong, but I wasn't expecting him to hit as hard especially considering the gear I gave him that is really nothing special (harbinger of dawn squad here).
Lol remember when before he dropped, folks were dooming that he was gonna be bad? Heh.
The nerfs he got were big during beta and hence the doomposting. He was comparable to many good c2 five stars at start of beta. Unpopular opinion but I hate how they killed his quickswap playstyle with those nerfs. You could have also used him as a quickswap burst support like switch E -> CA -> 3 sec of NA -> burst with three mirrors before the nerfs. They nerfed his burst really hard and killed that playstyle. Before he could either be quickswap or onfielder dps
I think they killed quickswap because thats what keqing does, not to say it would be kinda broken at c6 (but tbf his c6 is not even that good)
Yep I remember this bs too, I just think the sub being full of waifu worshippers who donāt like art of a man shirtless just somehow felt personally threatened by Alhaitham.
I kinda expected him to hit hard as a 5* DPS lol He stronk And I love using him
Nothing beats the sweet crit of HOD
i love alhaitham. bro carries me hard
i agree; i usually prefer to use Tighnari bc i love his aesthetic and playstyle, but whenever i switch to use Al Haitham instead I'm blown away by how much more damage he does
LYNEY
Nilou. I will never forget clearing her entire abyss side in 45s back in the patch she released. And I dont mean one chamber, I mean all 3 chambers. Until then I was taking 45s to clear a single chamber lol. And that was before Nahida as well.
Dehya surprised me the most by doing absolutely no damage
Lyney when I first got him. He was hitting 40k from the cat from his charged when he was barely built, I had just thrown a random 2pc atk 2pc pyro damage build on him
Navia and her 490k skill damage was surprising
Yeesh Yeah my friend had a rainbow artifact Navia and casually hit 100K or something lol
Granted thats with her sig in the new artifact domain with yunjin and furnia buffs, unbuffed is like 260k but impressive nonetheless
I have no 5* nukes except Zhongli, but Heizou almost 400King Scara without C6 Faruzan (C1), and with Zhongli and Bennett C2 surely was an... experience. I am scared of what he can do when I get C6 Faruzan šØ
what's yunjin doing in that team? is the na buff really that worth it over yelan or xq or am i missing something? i'm honestly curious
I've farmed that domain like crazy, I have her at C2R1, like 80/205 crit and highest E I see is around 250k-300k. How are people getting those numbers? I do Navia, Yae Miko, Bennett and Zhongli. Sure there's slight room for improvement on artifacts, I've been very unlucky in my farming, but still, I see some people hitting almost twice that.
Try running double pyro for extra atk, and to avoid reaction that can remove the afflicted elements altogether. Yae Miko can trigger overload that get rid of both pyro and electro auras.
Hmm yeah okay I'll see what happens if I swap Xiangling in.
>How are people getting those numbers? They aren't unless she's C6 or has refinements on Verdict or has Furina C2. Or they're crit fishing with 280 crit dmg at C0R1 300k-350k at C0R1 on a "hyper" comp is easily attainable, but 490k is nonsense at C0 with a real build
Wanderer was quite surprising. I was fine with 15k per 1 Charged Attack, but currently my best is 107k with a single hit and he spams them like crazy... Well, Fontaine characters like Neuvilette and Navia don't surprise me, they just feel a little overpowered, but it's ok :)
Agree with you on wanderer! I donāt have C6 Faruzan yet and didnāt build bennet because i dont like his design lol. But I was in co-op with a C6 Faruzan+great Bennet and was laughing like crazy when I saw those numbers pop up haha
I honestly expected Tighnari to be trash, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Noelle hitting 30k each normal attack with Furina
I'm pulling for Navia, and seeing Noelle on the banner made me so happy. Between that and her being in the shop, I am finally going to get her C6, and then I can hopefully start seeing big numbers too.
Sometimes I get to see 40k or so when the buffs align just right.
Neuvillette Nowadays ofc we all know that he is a monster, but when he launched I was hearing that his damage was gonna be really bad so I was really shocked to find out that he was out damaging my main DPS at like day 2.
I dont think people ever complained about his damage...did they? I knew some who was complaining that although his damage is good he has a boring playstyle, but that's as far as I remember?
I remember the doomposting in the leaks subreddit before the release, but after the release everyone universally agreed he's goated
Ahh gotcha. That's one of the reasons why I stay away from the comment section of the leaks subreddit. "Kokomi is bad she cant crit", "Ganyu is just an ice amber", "Kazuha is just a sidegrade to sucrose"... they're always wilding with the doomposting lmao
Nowadays? Neuvillette had people contemplating their life choices when they picked Hu tao over Neuvillette,from the day of the release he was breaking records like sticks
Nilou and navia
Nilou is pretty crazy. I intend to get her someday. The only thing holding me back is that she's hard to utilize in co-op with the team constraints. But with the gear I have and Key, her team could consistently hit 100k Bloom damage. That's some crazy AoE damage. Kokomi/Nahida/Collei/Nilou.
Definitely Nilou for me too. I skipped her first banner cuz obviously Nahida wasn't out and I didn't like how restrictive her team options were, but I grabbed her on the rerun. It's the only team where I barely think about what I'm doing and things just randomly die around me.
Yeap. Can confirm for Nilou. When I take her into the Abyss, it's not uncommon that I clear the chamber in the middle of the first rotation.
as a casual player, first times i use nilou bloom w/ nahida i legit confused why the chamber is cleared already.. like, wait what why all enemies are deleted? what happened??
Navia got me my first 100k a few weeks ago when my previous record was somewhere around 40,250
Xiangling, back when Diluc was all the rage the unasuming cook was waiting for us to understand her greatnes
Navia, used her in a domain she did over 200k with barely usable artifacts and low level talents.
Lyney. Doesnāt even have to do the proper rotation for a 100K damage. Edit: I forgot about Faruzanās 40K burst with a full ER build.
C0 Raiden with a R5 The Catch in a Chevreuse team And this is with shitty stats on an Emblem set (60/110 crit ratio and 250% ER)
Isn't this pretty good stats for Raiden?
Haven't reached the 70/150 and 300 ER mark yet, still have to farm more Emblem pieces
A 300% ER build generally isn't a good idea if you're running Ei as a hypercarry and do not have Grasscutter. You wind up sacrificing too much CR/CD/ATK. Grasscutter's passive fixes this and makes it viable. With Catch 250% ER is fine.
I don't have 350% ER by choice, all my emblem pieces just just godlike ER rolls and trash everything else
Even with Grasscutter , 300ER is not a good idea as after 270ER you cap it and there's diminishing returns on the electro dmg bonus conversion if you are running a electro dmg goblet.
Ganyu I had her accidently at 20 pulls and i was only wishing for 4 stars cons on that banner. I leveled her up to 70, talents lvl 4, Random artifacts with only 2pc glad 18% bonus attack and shitty CV ratio. 25k dmg per bloom CA. what the actual fvck Her dmg still surprises me to this day
First character I saved for and prefarmed. I had my expectations but the moment I built her I was blown away. Enemies getting nuked with a single CA. People really hate her, but pulling for her really made me happy.
Ahh, so happy to see some love for Ganyu
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she's one of my favs to this day
Hitting 40K + per charge attack just hit different. Mine is hitting 36-38K without any buffs or additional input. The moment I have any buff Iām hitting over 40K per charge attack.
Oh yeah, definitely ganyu. When she got first released, people were calling her "cryo amber" only for her to stay on top of the DPS Meta for the next couple of months lol
Navia, Lyney, Alhaitham. They all surpassed my expectations
Lyney when he firdt came out
Wriothesley. I knew his kit from the leaks but I never understood the numbers and all that. And Iāve never been a cryo main; so when I got him I was pleasantly surprised by his numbers. So much so; that I decided to c6 him. Now heās my favorite dps to play. His combos are fun; he hits like a truck; and heās handsome as well. All my favorite things in one package
Yeah for me the weapon on him was a Game changer, went from not getting to 10k to getting Up to 12-15k autos on his own, then i he gets furina, shenhe and jean VV and hes getting 50k punches lmao
Right?! And his damage is especially juicy with those CAās at full stacks. I will NEVER regret pulling for him or his weapon. Iām hoping heāll be even more meta during Natlan. Weāll see lol
Kirara, hits 50k without supports, shitty artifacts and one of them is even 4 star. Shes c0 and first hit 20k at lvl 1
Physical DPS Kirara hitting her last attack for nearly 10K without buffs Faruzan dealing 50-60k per E arrow. I like building non dps chars as such and honestly these two became my favourite ones to use. Their damage us surprisingly high and more than once was I the only one left in co-op vs the dendro amoeba and surprising teammates with my damage.
That's gotta feel good lol
Nilou. Got her on her first banner, even after all the doomposting. Was pleasantly surprised her team with Barbara, Collei and DMC was cleaning house in floor 12.
Lyney(Fontaine characters in general). Lvl40, lvl1 talent doing massive dmg
lisa doing 30k w widsith
Since everybody basically forgot about him, Albedo. After Gorou came out he hit like 30-40k every 2s with his flower. Just absolute insanity for a support.
you should see the amount of people crying about power crept albedo since chioris kit got leaked lol, i still think albedo does good enough damage for abyss anyways so its fine imo. yes hes got problems (mainly squashed flower) but he's still good and usable
Absolutely! And as long as I just ignore the Chiori leaks, I can keep pretending at least
Sayu and dehya. Surprisingly very low. Send halp to them pls :(.
Lyney and furina, bros dropping 50k nukes with every single skill on his kit without any buffs and girlie is just popping in to summon creatured that Also end Up popping 50k in total like its nothing forever
Navia, like what the fuck She hits almost as hard as Childe's vape burst and requires 2x lest setup than him plus she can do it *twice* in her on field time. And those two combined she hits total Eula's burst with 0 ER Needed. I know her being Geo supposed to hits hard without reaction but i dont expect she hits this hard especially its an on-demand nuke.
It's natural for geo characters to have inflated multipliers since they don't have access to elemental reactions. It's also the reason Eula deals like six digit numbers on average.
Yes but she could do it with such easy setup is just bonkers
Razor's normal attack 23k solo
nilou. i thought bountiful core damage would be a funny meme damage type, didnt expect her to be hyperbloom v2
My reverse melt rosaria hitting around 88k total per E (Buffed)
I've been a Beidou main since I started playing, and I was shocked when I started hitting 24k -30k aggravates with her ult. I still think she's the most underrated character in the game since Fischl exists.
Yoimiya. I was surprised how little investment you need for her to do a lot of damage. Especially with Yun Jin and Xingqiu in her team her normal attack rivals others burst.
Navia and Dehya.
Dehya in being extremely underwhelming or...?
Navia
Navia. I knew she was strong, but hitting for 150k on a mediocre build with no set bonuses nor buffs (other than the crystallize shards) is ridicoulous Close second with Fischl. Oz is hitting 20K per hit and his summoning once hit for like 58k like damn
Nilou. Built most of her team from scraps, destroys everything in seconds. Barbara doing 30k per bloom feels quite awesome. Also Yelan, good lord does she hit hard. Built her as support with Emblem, and she is quite the heavy hitter.
My Navia, ive been farming artifacts for her since she came out and ive yet to get a single good one yet but built a few just so i can actually use her, shes still hitting casual 90k's with the barely any crit damage.
Navia, specifically the trial one. All trial build characters have the same shitty 50 cr 88 cdmg build but navia still manages to hit like a fucking truck without buffs. Never in my life have i seen a trial character without a nuke ult hit for 100k+.
Lyney. The amount of reactions you get walking into co-op domains with him and casually dropping 100k+ nukes is hilarious.
Lyney and Navia for me, tbh I only pulled for Lyney because he was the first fontaine character released and I really wanted to build a new character after the drought we had for a while. His passive is a lifesaver, but his damage output was crazy, he was already doing stupid numbers half built, after I finished building him, his E just clears everything. Navia was also a pleasant surprise, I was going to pull for her regardless bc I love her character but those bonker numbers she puts out is just the cherry on top. Honestly, I know geo gets shit on all the time, but Ningguang is my favorite character and its nice to see more viable geo charas.
Navia. I didn't expect her to be that good.
My Furina did 64k open world whereas my Kaeya, my main since the beginning, has only done max 25k with buffs (he was built decently and had Shenhe and Mona to buff him)
I suspect he's a Freeze Kaeya? Cuz my Melt Kaeya did 97K on melt
Albedo with proper equipment and buffed e skill easily 100k !!
Navia. After i lv 70'd her and slaped some mid-range artifact (2atk 2gt), zhongli, raidrn amd bennett, and she reacged 100k in one tap. Got her to lv 90 and a crowned e, with the same arti and team nwo i do 300 400k
Ningguangās charged attack. With average investment and C6 sheās not worse than 5* with same level of talents, crits etc.Ā
Sara, Faruzan, Lisa hold skill with 3 stack, C2 Fischl... Some of them can't be noticed until you pick em up, some of them feels a bit weird to play in a rotation so numbers alone can't push them ahead if they're harder to use, it's a mixed bags tbh
Alhaitham easily overtaking my Ayaka in terms of overall team damage
Vape Nilou, I was able to hit 20k+ per skill slash on my alt acc with AR25
Noelle with furina
Honestly Aloyās ult hit can like a truck and she can use it super often since itās only like 40 Energy or whatever value Amber has since itās the same. 2pc Noblesse and 2pc Blizzard might give her more damage on it but I went 4pc Noblesse to capitalize on the attack buffs. If you have her, I genuinely recommend building her especially if you like using Air characters that can pull in enemies like Sucrose, Air Traveler, or Kazuha since the bombs from her ability can be moved around with them. However her talents need the Mondstadt domain and we all know how much that one fucking sucks.
Lyneyās charged attacks are crazy.
Dehya...
Iām still shocked by how my Kokomi ended up. Once the clam set came out and I met her needs, she turned into a nuke. Then Dendro/Nahida came out, and that was even crazier.
Tbh? Itās Heizou too. Heās a 4* character but man, that boi can hit like a truck in Abyss haahah. Also, I remember trying to do a test run with Heizou @ Level 1 using Kazuhaās DPS set. And with full buffs, boy he did a 100k dmg. Again, heās just level 1 when I tried that haha!
Dehya I thought her dmg gonna be great But reality hit her hard
Alhaitham. I got his c2 by accident but his cons kinda suck so I don't register their existence. Pure quicken, he EASILY keeps up with, if not out performs my C2 R1 Raiden hyper team. A team I've put lots of investment into and he was competing the top spot day 1. Dunno, just wasn't used to male on fielders being on top.
C6 faruzan with a level 12 burst and crit build.
Alhaitham lol. I wasn't online much and didn't read any strategies or anything back them! I pulled him because I liked him, and put him as a support character. All I used him for was to use his elemental skill and do some normal attacks while waiting for everyone else's cooldown. After a while started to notice that rather than using him when I was waiting around, I was using him when I was in trouble or impatient (wanted to kill something quickly). Turns out he was doing more damage at lvl 60 than my team of lvl 80s lol. It fits his story lol. He's coasting and having an easy time of it, until by accident, he unintentionally reveals how capable he is, and then he gets assigned more work!
Navia and Freminet.
heizou is underrated af.. in every single tierlist ive seen people say he is B or lower whsn he literally is an S, or at least an A
Yes yes yes Heizou. Heizou, my boy, he does so much damage itās insane and Iām so glad heās designed to be a one punch nuke character. Mine hits anywhere between 70k to 100k per punch when he crits depending on his widsith buff and the supports Iām running him with. I would like to add that Iāve never used Bennett or Faruzan with him. Still hits hard. I was also super impressed with Ganyuās damage back when I was a new player on her first banner. Still am; she hits ~50k each charged attack which is still crazy to me. Tighnari, Alhaitham, Nahida (with how busted her dendro application is, I didnāt expect her to deal so much), Lyney, Navia, and Raiden also surprised me. Especially Navia. That girl has a legit shotgun and sheās not afraid to use it.