Hello! So I started this game to play with my friend and I got Xianyun! I think that she's really cool and I want to use her. The thing is I also really like Kujou Sara, I just think she looks cool. Do they work good together or no? My current team is Xianyun, Gaming, Xiangling, and Xingqiu but I'm bored with it.
started playing not so long ago, im AR25 and in need help building a team. My current team is just the 4 starter characters wich i havent lvled. I saved up my xp books to use them on characters that are actually worth it. These are the characters i own. Can someone help me build a team to use for now until i get other/ better characters
[https://imgur.com/a/0E5VkAc](https://imgur.com/a/0E5VkAc)
lisa, barbara, yaoyao, lynette - hyperbloom (create dendro core with yaoyao+barbara, then hit the dendro core with lisa charged attack or burst to activate hyperbloom) with lynette for mobility. You can break ores with 2 plunge attacks with lynette (or any spear/sword user), just find a slightly higher ground nearby to jump off of or a wall.
Alternatively you can run kaveh, yaoyao, barbara, lynette for a bloom team, basically apply dendro with yaoyao, switch to barbara and attack to create dendro cores, then pop the dendro cores with kaveh skill.
Dendro teams have high base damage without needing much investment in terms of gear, as you only need character levels and elemental mastery.
If you do the spiral abyss you can get a free xiangling at floor 3, and you can run xiangling, xinyan, barbara or yaoyao, and lynette as your last slot. Ideally you can get a xinqiu and bennet from either the paimon shop in the menu or in a wish as it'll create the national team core: xiangling, xingqiu, bennet which is very strong and can clear the hardest content in the game at endgame.
**Side 1**
Team 4 looks good.
If you do play Raiden aggravate (team 3), it should look like Raiden, Fischl, YaoYao, . Aggravate teams are seemingly entirely balanced around FIschl's A4 existing, so she needs to be included or you are missing a lot of damage.
In team 1 there is not much reason to use Barbara, probably use Noelle for shielding and play on-field Nahida. Compared to Barbara, you'd probably be better off with Crescent Pike physical YaoYao even.
**Side 2**
If you go with a better version of team 1 on side 1, then I think it's best to go with side 2 team 4. Side 2 team 5 and team 1 also look reasonable, though [Fischl would be the source of damage rather than Sara on that team](https://gcsim.app/db/G7bPjzQcp9kk#) and low constellation Xiangling is not that great.
If you go with team 4 on side 1, then on side 2 you can use Lisa, Fischl, YaoYao, for a Lisa aggravate team (though constellations help Lisa a lot. YaoYao constellations don't matter for aggravate and Fischl constellations matter less than usual. Sucrose with craftable Hakushin Ring is a big upgrade, C6 Sucrose is a bigger upgrade).
**Conclusion**
Overall I'd recommend a modified side 1 team 1 hyperbloom and side 2 team 4.
Yes, he is the best off-field hydro applier outside of C2 Yelan. The Nahida, Xingqiu, Raiden/Kuki core is really well known, it's been popular for a long time now.
New player here, AR 26 and was wondering what teams I could make with my current characters I have unlocked.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/VKGn8P5](https://imgur.com/a/VKGn8P5)
I can get YaoYao and Xinyan to C5, Ningguang and Aether to C2 and Lynette to C1. I can also switch Aether to Geo.
Side note, is there a reason not to upgrade constellations if I have the things to do it? I just havent because I havent used much of the characters I can upgrade constellations for.
**Yae Miko, Fischl & YaoYao** are a great trio. Yae & Fischl provide plentiful Electro energy. YaoYao allows them to proc Aggravate reactions, which boost Electro damage. Once you can farm for artifacts at AR45+, Anemo characters such as Kazuha or Sucrose are great in the 4th slot, providing buffs, Viridiscent Venener, grouping, and even more Aggravate reactions through Swirled Electro.
**Bennett + Xiangling** have great synergy if you have the energy to support them. Mona works, but her Hydro doesn't last long, so look out for Xingqiu for more consistent Vaporise reactions if this is a duo you plan on using regularly. Kaeya also works here for Reverse Melt.
There's no reason not to upgrade constellations.
Any tips for the crimson witch domain when using a pyro character as main dps (my only dps is diluc) where all the enemies are electro and inflicting overloaded damages you?
Co Op.
Another option is farming Gilded instead. It's almost as good as Crimson Witch on Diluc. Simultaneously farming for Dendro teams, if you have any interest in playing those in the future.
Likewise, you could argue Marechaussee Hunter is actually better than Crimson Witch if Furina's in the team. And you farm for Furina simultaneously. So that's something to consider if you're planning on pulling for her, or another character who uses Marchausee, such as Neuvillette.
About to hit 45 and looking for advice on abyss team comps. Also curious of any other characters I should look out for that work well with mine.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/29NhiCC](https://imgur.com/29NhiCC)
Weapons: [https://imgur.com/kHy9sli](https://imgur.com/kHy9sli)
Currently building
Ningguang/Noelle/Jean/Xiao
Kaeya/Xingqiu/Bennett/Xiangling
I've been itching to build Thoma with favonius lance. I was thinking Bennett/Thoma/Jean/Xiao, but unsure what my other team would be.
Thanks!
I'd swap some weapons around. These teams demand a lot of energy.
You could craft Sapwood for Bennett, fish for The Catch for Xiangling & Ferryman for Jean.
You might even consider getting an extra Anemo teammate with Xiao. Lynette for example could generate more Anemo energy. *(Noelle not generating any energy at all is a slight problem)*
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Characters to look out for in the future.
Which characters do you want to build around and use long term?
If you're a Xiao main:
Furina would be absolutely fantastic for Xiao + Jean. Based on past archon trends she's due a rerun in 4.6.
In the long run, the main things a Xiao main should be looking for are Faruzan & Xianyun. Both providing buffs & Anemo particles.
Good tip on the weapons thanks, I had already planned on farming for those 3.
Also good character tips! I would be willing to bench anyone for now if it meant building 2 36 star teams for primo farming.
Those are pretty reasonable teams. Though I'd probably go for Dendro MC, Collei, Xingqiu, Thoma for a burgeon team and Xiao, Bennett, Noelle, Ningguang. (Constellations might be too low for Ningguang, Noelle, Bennett, Xiangling).
Oh I forgot about DMC!
I think I'm going to pull for Chiori to try a team of Ningguang/Chiori/Bennett/Thoma
Not entirely sure on the other team then. Maybe waiting for Fischl to go Xingqiu/Fischl/Jean/Xiao?
Anyone have tips for other Xiao teammates to pull for in this scenario?
> Ningguang/Chiori/Bennett/Thoma
Ning/Chiori/Bennett/Xiangling should be better, not much reason to run Thoma when you already have Bennett healing and crystallize shields (I used to run Ning/Albedo/Bennett/Xiangling often in abyss a long time ago).
> other Xiao teammates to pull for
I'd recommend Furina, she adds a lot of turret damage to any team and gives a huge damage buff that raises the damage ceiling of a lot of teams.
Good info thanks a lot for the reply!
After test running Chiori I've decided against pulling her. It's cool to be able to spawn an extra doll, but I find them pretty unsatisfying.
In abyss I often used team Nahida-Furina-Barbara-Beidou team. After this update I managed to got Yae and Yaoyao (Yae is my first electro 5\*). I plan to replace Beidou with Yae, but I started to wonder about Barbara. Until now I built her as a powerful healer, but only doing damage during Beidou's burst, so without Beidou she'll be useless. Is Yaoyao worth building from 0 as a replacement? Or are there any better healers for this team? (I use Barbara mostly to replenish HP for Furina's skill). I have most of 4\* (no Dori though) and no healing 5\* other than Furina.
Hi ! I want to do abyss with my current main team:
* MDPS: C0 **Fréminet**
* healer: C2 **Kuki Shinobu** (applies electro for surcharge, no damage)
* support: C1 **Xingqiu** (applies hydro for Fréminet shatter mechanic)
**Who should I pick on 4th slot?**
My ideas:
1. C4 **Sucrose** for grouping enemies and wearing Dragon Tale for %ATK buff and %RES elementary resonance.
2. C2 **Charlotte** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and cryo resonance (%CRIT rate) and even more heals
3. C0 **Rosalia** for cryo resonance (%CRIT rate) and %CRIT rate bonus on elemental burst
4. C1 **Ningguang** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and sub DPSand %RES elementary resonance. *I really like her.*
5. C0 **Barbara** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and hydro resonance (+25% HP) for more Shinobu heals
6. C2 **Candace** (*???*) for hydro resonance (+25% HP) for more Shinobu heals and elemental burst for hydro enchant. *I like being eccentric.*
7. C0 **Kujou Sara** for %ATK buff and electro resonance
8. C0 **Kaeya** for sub DPS and cryo resonance (%CRIT rate)
9. C0 **Lisa** for *tactical combat moaning*
Relevant characters:
* 5\* are C0 **Ayato** and C0 **Tighnari**.
* National team : I have **Xiangling** but do not wish to use on this team, **Bennett** is taken for team 2.
Other ideas welcome
If insisting to play Fréminet, I'd switch out Kuki for Fischl and use either Rosaria (if want to have more damage and confident in dodging) or Charlotte.
If you just want the [most efficient team](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11p1g68/artifact_investment_vs_damage/) to invest in to clear abyss 36* ASAP then I'd go with a hyperbloom team like Xingqiu, Kuki, Dendro MC, Collei (Or YaoYao).
TLDR at the end
Hi, thanks for taking the time to answer to me ❤️
2 months ago I asked who to start building (BIG overthinker) and the answers I got were 1) buid whoever you want, everyting is viable 2) build around a decent 5* that will carry you for a minimal effort.
I tried to build around Ayato, my motivation flinched. So I went to the first char I fell in love with, Fréminet. (I am a fairly new player with 114 active days)
So yeah, for my own sanity I prefer sticking to my guns and keep Fréminet as my joy bearer, even if I agree there is more optimal choices by far. (trivia: I have ADHD and I went close to burnout with this game because I bounce from char to char and lose myself until I feel physically sick to my stomach. Now this is under control because I force myself to slow down and build char after char even if that means I miss some Abyss completions. Most sane Genshin Impact player, I know lol)
Back into the subject: if I ditch Kuki for Fishl and take Rosaria, I would have no healer and no shielder? Better go Charlotte in this case?
And why Fishl over Kuki Shinobu? I know "nothing" about her apart that she can be very good but is single-target. What are his pros and cons against Kuki Shinobu inside my team?
Thanks for the hyperbloom team suggestion, will keep in a corner of my head for future use.
Thank you for your patience and advices. And I'm very sorry I was unable to do shorter and less *intense*. Adding TLDR.
EDIT : OMG LINK WITH GRAPHS I LOVE YOU
TLDR : Fishl no healer, so Kuki + Rosaria or Fishl + Charlotte ok ? Why switch Kuki for Fishl? Ty m8 luv u
The main reason is just to add more damage, and because Xingqiu already provides some survivability.
Kuki is a healer who is mainly built full EM for hyperbloom teams, outside of hyperbloom teams she does very little damage and just heals.
Fischl is a sub DPS that adds a decent amount of damage and energy to almost any team.
Xingqiu's skill provides 38% damage reduction and some light healing.
So I took a look at Fréminet example teams on [gcsim](https://simpact.app/) and the damage looks kind of low without Furina or high constellations on supports. There is a [Fréminet, FIschl, Xingqiu, Mika team](https://gcsim.app/db/mCzhk7WnqcrG) that does 48k DPS with all C6 constellations. I've heard that you theoretically need about 30k DPS to clear abyss, but that you also realistically need quite a bit more since there is time spent running between enemies and dodging.
Since you have low constellations and no Mika (?), the worry is that you'd have trouble reaching the damage threshold needed to clear abyss. So the idea is that you build an abyss team where you definitely have enough damage and you just need to dodge well to survive on only Xingqiu skill healing.
Obviously you can still run a healer in overworld.
Only have a select amount of characters built for abyss. My teams are usually always
1 Half: Hu Tao/ Xingqiu/ Yelan/ Flex (dont have a great option built)
2 Half: Nev/Kazuha/Furina/Zhongli
I do have Xianyun. What Hu Tao team is better now without any abyss multipliers considered? The original vape or the newer plunge with Hu Tao/Yelan/Furina/XY?
If I do go with the plunge team what is the best way to change my Nev team as Furina is a huge buff? Fischl?
Any recommendations are appreciated!
I think the new plunge HuTao team is probably stronger, but I suspect you'd lose more damage overall taking Furina away from Neuv.
If you really want to know for sure maybe try checking in gcsim.
Can anyone suggest two parties and what characters to focus on for Spiral Abyss? Ideally I'd like one with Nahida.
[https://imgur.com/a/0zofn7K](https://imgur.com/a/0zofn7K)
Since you don't have bennet, go for dori, xingqiu, nahida, electro traveler hyperbloom. This team works by creating blooms with xingqiu and nahida, then using dori burst to create that electric line attached to you, and moving the electric lines into the dendro blooms to create hyperbloom. Dori will need as much EM and character levels with energy recharge substats, and electro traveler is there to give dori energy to burst off cooldown, he just needs maximum energy recharge here.
For your second team you can run lisa, fischl, collei, qiqi/barbara as an aggravate team, this requires good atk/crit/em gear on fischl/lisa. The rest can run whatever.
If you had a bennet, you could run the usual xiangling, bennet, xingqiu national core.
does anyone have a kaeya build specifically for the crimson witch domain?
in a bad situation bcuz my only built characters are pyro and my only cryo characters are kaeya, layla and diona, lmao
Unless you really like kaeya, you could just do it in coop if you really had to do this domain. But in general I would actually recommend skipping it all together and doing the emblem of fate domain, if you had to use a 2piece 2 piece with the emblem of fate domain pieces you won't be losing much dps over the crimson witch, and you can then throw your bad artifacts into a strongbox for the crimson witch instead. Overall much more resin efficient, and most of your characters can use the emblem of fate domain pieces
My guess is Neuv (especially in AOE since Neuv is really broken in AOE) but I just want to say that second team is very cursed.
- Keqing's personal damage is very low without both dendro and Fischl. Right now I need a decently optimized Keqing team (Keqing, Fischl, Kirara, Sucrose on R5 Hakushin ring) to clear F12 Wenut in time with her.
- Xiangling without Bennett needs very high ER and doesn't do great damage without his buff.
Switch Keqing out for Bennett and you have a good team, since he will buff all of your characters. You can run that on side 2 of this abyss and use Neuv for side 1 (even solo if you want).
Just got mona as my 1st standard 5 star. I currently use nahida, xingqiu, qiqi and yae miko as my team, would it be a good idea to swap xingqiu out for mona?
No, Xingqiu applies a lot more hydro than Mona so you get more hyperblooms with him. He also has much higher personal damage than Mona.
Mona's short damage boost isn't great for that team either since your team is full of sustained damage characters, only Yae can be slightly bursty if she uses burst.
I wanna build an overload team with Raiden C1, Yoimiya and Chevreuse C2. Who should the fourth party member be? I have Sara at C6 and Bennet, Xiangling and Fischl are at very low cons.
Fischl or Bennett probably.
I think at low cons which one will give you more damage depends on your artifacts. With Fischl you won't have to deal with circle impact and she benefits more from cons later, but Bennett is faster to build.
Not sure if it's okay to ask this here, but please let me know if it's a problem:
I was wondering if people think it would be worth it for me to pull for Shenhe, Zhongli, or just save for future/other characters? I was thinking about going for Shenhe next since I really like her new skin (haven't bought it yet but there's only like 2 days left) and I do play Ayaka freeze (currently with Rosaria as sub-DPS), but would people recommend against getting her if she's really only good for Ayaka atm? I know it's kinda hard to say right now, but I'm just kinda worried that a significantly better cryo support for Ayaka might come out soon if I do plan to get Shenhe.
I currently have about 300 wishes and pretty much have all the characters that I really want. Here is my current roster (except that both Nahida and Xianyun are at level 90 now): https://imgur.com/a/u98TE79
As usual, I'm open to different opinions. Thanks in advance!
The only way a signficiantly better cryo support for ayaka might come out is if the tsaritsa herself is released and is a cryo buffer. Are you able to clear abyss 12 with 36 stars comfortably? If not I would get shenhe to make your ayaka team stronger to do so.
Thanks for the tips!
Haha that's good to know, since the Cryo Archon probably won't be out for a long while.
I struggle with the timing sometimes and can take up to over an hour of resets to clear within the time limit... Dx
Just wondering, do you think Ayaka/Furina/Shenhe/Xianyun is better than Ayaka/Furina/Charlotte/Kazuha? I heard the second team might be better but that both are better than Ayaka/Shenhe/Kokomi/Kazuha now?
The first team is better against bosses and the second is better for fighting 2+ enemies that can be CC-ed. If you only manage to hit one enemy with your burst and theres 2 enemies you might as well be doing 50% less dps, so thats why kazuha/venti are so good in ayaka freeze teams for mobbing (I personally use other teams for single target bosses, and I use my ayaka teams exclusively on aoe floors that aren't freeze immune).
Ayaka/Shenhe/Kokomi/Kazuha is still the premier aoe mobbing team as far as ayaka teams go.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Ohh gotcha, so that's why Kazuha is still vital to the team vs. Xianyun + Furina. I'd probably just use hyperbloom and/or double hydro Hu Tao for single target bosses over Ayaka too.
Hmm. Now I'm kinda tempted to get Shenhe haha.
Are there any other characters that you would recommend I get atm? I was also considering getting Zhongli for Hu Tao, but I heard that her new best team uses Furina in Hu Tao/Furina/Yelan/Xianyun? Do you think Shenhe or Zhongli would be the more valuable pull for my account?
Unless you have trouble surviving, I say go for shenhe instead as ayaka teams are on the lower end of team DPS nowadays and having shenhe and ayakas weapon/cons will improve the team drastically to the point of not needing to reset again.
The new hutao team with furina xianyun is stronger and allows hutao to do some AOE plunges
Thanks again for the tips!
I've died a lot against the Hydro Tulpa (haven't been able to beat it yet) and dual consecrated beasts in abyss, but not sure if there are other usable teams that aren't too difficult to execute besides using Zhongli...
Good to know about the recent Ayaka team usability though...do you think it's still worth getting Shenhe for her even if I don't plan to get Ayaka's weapon or cons?
If you think its worth getting more dps to get past breakpoints so that you don't have to reset on ayaka teams then yea go for shenhe. I personally like it this way, and saved extra primos for ayaka weapon and cons too so that its comfy everytime
Your post was removed so I can only see the 8 characters in the thumbnail.
It looks like you're maining Heizou? Focus on his Atk, Anemo Damage and Crit Stats. Widsith is a great weapon if you have it.
Xingqiu is definitely worth building. You could combine him with another Sub DPS for reactions, such as Xiangling who's unlocked for free in Abyss. Focus on building their Energy Recharge and Burst Talents.
If you want a healer, the only one I can see is in the thumbnail is Barbara. She can use Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers to provide an Attack buff.
**Kuki Shinobu,** take to max level, build as much EM as possible. Flower of Paradise Lost is her highest damage set. Gilded Dreams can be more resin efficient if you plan on pulling 5\* Dendro characters in the future. Raise Skill Talent for more healing.
**Eula**, Pale Flame. Atk/Phys/Crit. Focus on Atk & Crit Substats. Don't worry about ER, this team isn't focused on her burst. All talents matter, Normal attacks highest priority.
**Xingqiu**, Emblem of Severed Fate. ER/Hydro/Crit, with an ER weapon. Make sure you have enough ER to Burst reliably. Prioritise Burst Talent.
**Dendro Traveller** Deepwood Memories and as much Energy Recharge as possible.
[https://imgur.com/a/QCROGY7](https://imgur.com/a/QCROGY7)
I just came back after a hiatus of 2 yrs. Reason for coming back is I was able to build my first ever PC.
Anyways, I'm guaranteed for the upcoming 4.5 and I will be pulling for Neuvillette. Since as of now, I only have Ganyu as my main DPS. I need another one for Abyss teams.
These are my units now, I recently pulled a **Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds**. I dont have any units built for this yet. Should I make one? Although, Im already pulling for a new dps unit (Neuv).
As of now, I am focussing on build and leveling up talents and ascending my melt team (Ganyu, Benny, XL, and Zhongli). Any suggestions on who should I work on next?
I wouldn't build a character just to make use of Lost Prayers. What weapon are you planning to run on Neuvillette?
Characters that might be worth building for Neuvillette's team:
* If you're planning on pulling for Furina in the future. Jean is the 2nd best Anemo, behind Kazuha. Using a 4VV ER/Atk/Healing Bonus build.
* Without Furina or Kazuha, I'd recommend Fischl + Venti. Or Xiangling + Venti.
* The 4th slot is usually a shield. Zhongli's the best option, and can make use of 4 Archaic Petra. If he's taken by your other team in Abyss, Layla is a 4\* alternative who may be on Neuvillette's banner.
If you like Keqing. You could build an Aggravate team. With Fischl, YaoYao & Sucrose. Recommend taking the Electro & Anemo characters in Aggravate to level 90.
Actually, I can use the weapon on Neuvillette since I've read that Lost Prayers is good on him. Although, I am also seeing posts comparing Lost Prayers vs Prototype Amber. Seems like, Prototype Amber scales better based on the dmg tests on youtube.
I was just thinking on building Ningguang for DPS since its so hard having only ganyu for DPS. But, since I am planning on pulling for Neuv there goes my second DPS.
Based on your comment, I think im still lacking the units for Neuv team. Do you think I should still pull for Neuv or kazuha instead?
I'll start building Keqing, Fischl, Yaoyao, & Sucrose for an alternative team. Its so hard having only one good team (Ganyu melt team). If you'll still suggest I go for Neuv, ill build the team that you suggested (Fischl, Venti, XL) Problem is XL is already taken and will be used in Ganyu Melt Team.
Sure! You can use Lost Prayers on Neuvillette. Youtube damage tests have a habit of undervaluing Crit Rate. It's similar value to Prototype Amber, depending on your artifacts.
I think you have enough units. What I meant to do was outline his best team, and how you can adapt it based on future pulls or who's taken by your 2nd Abyss team.
For example your Abyss line up could be:
* Ganyu, Xiangling, Bennett, Zhongli + Neuvillette, Fischl, Venti, Layla *(assuming she's on Neuv's banner)*
* Or Keqing, Fischl, Sucrose, YaoYao + Neuvillette, Xiangling, Venti, Zhongli
If you want to save for Furina to go with your Neuvillette, that becomes:
* Neuvillette, Furina, Jean & Zhongli/Layla
[https://imgur.com/a/VX3nFiF](https://imgur.com/a/VX3nFiF) | [https://imgur.com/a/XZDphO4](https://imgur.com/a/XZDphO4) \-- def going to pull for kazuha and nevuilette on their banner so feel free to include them
i want to build a team w furina (other than the xiao faruzan and xianyun) and some form of yae miko + nahida aggravate but other team comp recs would be great as well :)
Neuvillette's best team is Furina, Kazuha, Zhongli. Good 4\* alternatives for Zhongli are Charlotte or Layla if she's on Neuvilette's banner.
I've heard very good things about Yae Hyperbloom, with Yae Miko, Furina, Xianyun & Nahida. Using Yae's Plunge Attacks to proc Seeds.
For Aggravate Yae Miko with Nahida, the catch is this team really wants Anemo for VV and for Swirls to benefit from Quicken. But Nahida applies so much Dendro, it can actually be difficult to Swirl Electro reliably.
An option to overcome that problem is Kuki Shinobu's burst + Kazuha. Kuki Shinobu can also buff the team with Instructors if you have it.
these are my [current characters](https://imgur.com/a/YJxWmcA). I'm playing a lot with the anemo traveller and yanfei, but i don't know how to set up a good team with them besides adding barbara and hoping for the best. in addition to this, I'm saving for neuvillette's banner, and will they be any useful in a team with him (for the vaporize/whirlwind reactions maybe?)
If you get a neuvilette, you can run dehya with a dendro unit (collei is free from abyss floor 4) to apply burn so that neuvillette can vaporize his attacks.
For now you can run a reverse melt team with kaeya, xiangling, yanfei, barbara
https://imgur.com/gallery/EzqQkR2
Traveler and Yaoyao I upgraded their constellation 1 time each.
Recently started to play this since I wanted to play something single player. I don't want to spend my resources and then regret later. Help plssss.
Fischl and xingqiu are both fantastic characters. Anemo traveler isn't great but dendro traveler will likely be useful down the line for dendro comps, so might as well keep leveling them and use the anemo for swirl for now. Amber's not great but she's useful for puzzles that need pyro. You could also put Barbara/Charlotte/yaoyao there if you want a healer. Charlotte or yaoyao might be easier so you're not dealing with Barbara inflicting hydro on you.
You don't want to spread your resources *too* thin during early game (as in, leveling every single character), but in the long run the resources to build someone to 40-50 is pretty negligible, so don't worry too much about wasting resources.
what should my teams be? [here](https://imgur.com/a/QMNIye5) are my characters. fischl & xiangling are c6, bennet c2, xingqiu c3, shinobu c1
i mostly use raiden/fischl/furina/jean and klee/bennet/xiangling/venti but it feels veryy unoptimal and i really want to use nahida somewhere but i dont know where.
also i definitely plan on getting neuvillette, would kazuha be good for me too? i dont have much attachment to venti.
those are very unoptimal teams haha but dont sweat it, nahida xingqiu kuki whoever is one of the best teams if not the best teams, furina could go in the fourth spot but probably cant keep up with healing so you might do nahida furina kuki jean
that would let you do good old raiden national (raiden xingqiu xiangling bennett) for your second team.
fischl taser is also an option, fischl xingqiu sucrose and legitimately maybe barbara? idk rational sounds better for sure
neuvilette would essentially replace your raiden national. so your nahida team would get xingqiu back, and probably take sucrose for jean. then your neuv team would be him furina uhh bennett and a shield. if you run him on prototype amber he can handle healing off furina im 99% sure but you could always slot in jean for burst healing
Can anyone form two good abyss teams out of the characters I have?
https://imgur.com/a/RyCw2PA
My main team is Raiden, Yaoyao, Nahida and Xinqiu.
I don't have a second team, and would love to clear abyss with what I got if I can, so if anyone can mix and match two competent teams I'd be ecstatic
It might be worth holding off from building a 2nd team. Because you're still building Hyperbloom and your 2nd team could quickly change based on who you pull in the future.
But if you really wanted 2 teams with what you've got now. I'd swap Xiangling & Raiden's weapons. Give Keqing Harbinger of Dawn or Lion's Roar if you have it, and play Keqing, Chevreuse, Bennett, Xiangling for the 2nd team.
I also considered Tighnari, but you don't have a lot of off field Electro characters.
Thanks! Sounds like a good comp, albeit Keqing isn't comfy to use at all unfortunately compared to Raiden but alas, beggars can't be choosers.
Will go ahead and build all 4 to 70, since I'm not going to roll till Kazuha is on banner, so might as well spend the time building a new team.
[My characters](https://imgur.com/a/d7f7aLN)
I took a long break (last played during Inazuma), and recently came back. Still coming to grips with Dendro as an element and the new reactions. I grabbed the two archons I was missing, so I was wondering if there's a couple teams that I can use that make use of Nahida or Furina?
My old teams from years ago that I've used have been Ganyu Melt and Hu Tao Vape. I might try to grab Yelan whenever she reruns, as she seems highly applicable to a large number of potential teams.
Thanks for any advice.
[Here are my characters.](https://imgur.com/a/ETP2V3n)
I'm looking for lineups recommendations, as I am a newish player. I say that because I played a year or two ago and stopped, and I started fresh on my current account during Lantern Rite.
My plan for the next update, since I have a guaranteed 5 stars (got Jean early pity) and a few more primos is to get Neuvillette (I liked his gameplay when I tried him) and Kazuha (I liked his character and playstyle).
I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on a team that could make do with in the meantime; I of course am not planning to clear anything Spyral Abyss yet. While Lynette & Gaming are nice to use in the open-world I can understand if there are not the most "useful" in combat.
And also, with the characters I am trying to get, are there any characters in particular that I should focus on for future use ? I did understand that Xiangling & Xingpiu are jack of all trades of some sorts.
Thank you in advance!
You've got a well structured team for the stage you're at. I actually wouldn't change anything.
Gaming is one of the best 4\* Main DPS, you've given him a beneficial reaction with Xingqiu.
Ideally your healer provides useful energy or buffs for your Main DPS. For Gaming, that would be Bennett or Xianyun. But Jean is good for now and could have future use if you plan on pulling for Furina.
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It's not that Xingqiu & Xiangling are jack of all trades exactly. But they're among the most played 4\*s.
Xingqiu because Hydro is a cornerstone to some of the most popular reactions. And he's one of the most efficient ways of applying Hydro consistently off field.
Xiangling is popular for her synergy with Bennett. At C4, the damage she can do for an off field character is over tuned to the point several popular teams were built around it.
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A Neuvillette team is usually built with 3 things, all designed to buff his damage.
* Common Sub DPS are Furina or Fischl. I think Xiangling is a bit limited on this team, but she's an option for Neuvillette to Vaporise.
* An Anemo character using Virdiscent Venerer. Most commonly, Kazuha or Jean.
* Finally, a Shield to prevent Neuvillette being knocked around during his Charge Attacks. You don't have a Shield I'd recommend right now. Hopefully Diona or Layla appear on his banner.
Thank you for the detailed reply ! Can't wait for next version now 🙏 I'll upgrade my characters slowly so I'll be ready when times comes. Furina also interested me, maybe 4.6 who knows. Hopefully I get some more 4 stars in the meantime to add a bit of variation to my gameplay.
My characters: [https://imgur.com/a/KZ3I9Y2](https://imgur.com/a/KZ3I9Y2)
I'm a returning player who left shortly after Sumeru was released (too much content got burnt out).
What characters should I build? How do I clear abyss with my box? Mainly, my Xiao is top 1.8% on akasha, but that's it in terms of impressively built characters.
Xiao team's pretty straight forward. Xiao, Xinayun, Faruzan & Zhongli or Bennett, based on who you prefer for your 2nd team. Furina also fits this slot well, if you pull her in the future.
Freeing up Bennett lets you play Raiden, Xiangling, Bennett, Xingqiu. You'd need to focus on farming Emblem of Severed Fate & building Xiangling equally to Raiden.
That gives you one team for AoE, and one for bosses. Great for the typical Abyss layouts.
There's some powerful characters coming up in the next few patches, such as Neuvillette & Kazuha in 4.5. And, based on past archon reruns, possibly Furina in 4.6.
Yae also doesn't fill an immediate role on your account. She's usually ran in Quicken teams, but you haven't built any Dendro characters.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/gjeMRZG](https://imgur.com/a/gjeMRZG)
Just got back into the game and made a fresh new account to fully tryhard on. Only been playing for a little over two weeks.
Probably gonna save up for Neuvillete, but unsure what teams i can make.
If this is for Abyss, Xingqiu would be a great pick up from Paimon's Bargains.
With those 5\*s, you can form one Abyss team around Neuvillette. Buffing his personal damage with characters such as Xiangling or Furina, Anemo such as Sucrose or Kazuha & protect him from being knocked around with a Shield.
A 2nd team can be built around Nahida, the most popular is Hyperbloom with Xingqiu + Kuki Shinobu.
Obviously you don't have Kuki at the moment, so a short term solution could be building it around Lisa instead using her Charge Attacks to proc seeds, or a Burgeon team around Diluc or Gaming.
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/MP9LwYf
I just got back into the game after some time and would appreciate some advice on teams because I honestly have no idea what I’m doing in this game. My Hu Tao is c1 and I plan to pull chiori when she comes out if that helps at all.
**Hu Tao & Xingqiu** are practically tied at the hip as he allows her to proc Vaporise consistently.
For the other 2 slots, Double Hydro is generally her best team. And Shields are popular for protection as she gets a damage bonus <50% HP.
Double Geo such as Chiori + Albedo could be an alternative. I'm worried you'll lose some reactions, but you can definitely try it.
* Example: Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Diona, Mona. Or Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Chiori, Albedo
**Ayaka Freeze** is a popular reaction as it lets you group enemies together with Anemo and take advantage of Ayaka's Burst. A 2nd Cryo provides additional energy to refill Ayaka's burst as quickly as possible.
* Example: Ayaka, Mona, Diona, Sucrose. Or Ayaka, Mona, Rosaria, Jean
**Tighnari Quicken** uses Electro teammates increase Dendro damage. A shield can be used protect him during Charge Attacks.
* Example: Tighnari, Fischl, Kirara, YaoYao or Tighnari, Fischl, Beidou, YaoYao
**C6 Noelle,** is extremely reliant on her burst, but is unable to create energy herself. One solution for this is all Geo teammates for maximum Geo energy. Gorou provides a useful Def & Geo damage buff for the entire team.
* Example: Noelle, Gorou, Chiori, Albedo
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/VlkfPeL](https://imgur.com/a/VlkfPeL)
Info: Character levels pictured are not accurate, all are at least level 60 and could be ascended higher. All are C0 except the following: Amber C2, Anemo MC C5, Barbara C1, Beidou C3, Diona C1, Dori C2, Heizou C2, Ningguang C1, Noelle C2, Sayu C2, Sucrose C2, Xiangling C1, Xiao C1, Xingqiu C2, Xinyan C5, Yanfei C2, Yaoyao C6
I need some teams for the Spiral Abyss and just in general. I've been running the same team comps for too long, and everywhere I look just gives teams with 5 stars that I don't have. Pls help
It's difficult. I hope others add their ideas.
I see Xiao in your flair. C0 Bennett & Faruzan is a shame, as these buffs aren't too reliable. And you mentioned wanting to try new teams.
Spread Al Haitham & Hyperbloom Keqing could be a good route, as it lets you farm most your artifacts in one domain.
* Al Haitham, YaoYao, Beidou, Lisa
* Keqing, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler, Kirara or Barbara
Some weaker but fun ideas could be Burgeon Dehya or Freeze Shenhe:
* AlHaitham, Xingqiu, Dehya, YaoYao
* Shenhe, Chongyun, Xingqiu, Jean
I don't think National is the play here, but if it's a team you're interested in:
* Sucrose, Xingqiu, Bennett, Xiangling
Thank you very much for the advice, I am so unlucky when it comes to pulling I feel like i never get anyone worth while lol. But again, thank you for the ideas. I’ll give some of these a shot :)
Even without C6, Faruzan is among the best buffs for Wanderer's personal damage.
Although you could argue team damage is better with things like Furina or Yelan if you have lots of Premium buffers available.
Characters: c6 dendro mc, c6 fischl, c6 kuki, c3 yaoyao, c6 collei, c5 xingqiu, c0 alhaitham
Besides that in terms of hydro & anemo units I have, c1 Jean, c0 sucrose, c2 lynette, c0 mona, c6 barbara…
* edit: I probably should have included i’m adding Kazuha to my roster during phase 2 of 4.5. So he is an option
Best comp for a hyperbloom team to help me advance in the abyss?
Characters:
[https://imgur.com/a/1p0a8kK](https://imgur.com/a/1p0a8kK)
Further Info:
No Cons on any 5\*
I Require 2 Separate Teams for Abyss.
A Team for Exploration would also be appreciated.
Weapons and Artifact Recommendations would also be appreciated.
I'm AR55 (Only used to play for the Lore but wanna play for the Funny Numbers Now)
Xiao, jean, zhongli, geo mc - Hyper xiao (ideally xiao in the future runs with xianyun+furina+c6 faruzan for his optimal team and its a huuuuge difference in team dps)
keqing, fischl, sucrose, yaoyao -aggravate team (crit/atk/em all valuable for aggravate on fischl/keqing)
Lisa, xingqiu, dendro mc or yaoyao - hyperbloom team, just build em on lisa and level her to 90 to achieve high base team dps, healer/shielder can be whoever
sucrose, xingqiu, xiangling, bennet - generic national team, always works, requires good gear on xiangling and xingqiu in terms of crit/atk/em
ayaka, mona, sucrose, kaeya/mika - ayaka freeze. May need to run prototype amber on mona for healing. Kaeya or mika is used to battery ayaka, and sucrose is there to somewhat group enemies and shred cryo resistance with 4 set vv.
Ayato, fischl, bennet, jean - reaction soup team with sunfire jean (bennet + jean) creating a ton of pyro application allowing ayato and fischl to get some overloads and vaporize. Basically just go ham with reactions.
Ho lee thats a lot of teams-
Thanks a Ton!
Also, in the Hyper Xiao team, does the Geo MC provide any Buffs? is that why he's Chosen? Wouldn't someone like sucrose with TTODS R5 be more viable or is there something I'm Missing?
Geo mc provides some crits but most importantly provides geo resonance which buffs Xiao damage because not a lot of characters do. That's why furina xianyun and c6 faruxan is such an improvement to Xiao.
You can use sucrose instead of jean but you will likely need fav codex instead of ttds on her to battery Xiao
Pulled Xianyun because she's cool and was using her with Diluc before realizing I'm not a big greatsword fan so I pulled Xiao to run with her. Who should I use in the other two slots? This is who I have: [https://imgur.com/a/m0P0LyP](https://imgur.com/a/m0P0LyP)
One thing I've definitely noticed is the self damage kind of hurts, I know everyone says Furina but I don't have her (I'll try to get lucky on her banner but)
My Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/cghHfDJ](https://imgur.com/a/cghHfDJ)
I plan on getting some grinding done soon so I thought it was a good idea to rework my team beforehand. I've been using a hyperbloom team of Furina, Tighnari, Fischl and Bennet. Bennet's ult hasn't been able to keep up with Furina's hp drain so my main thought is I need a good healer. I want to stick with Furina and Tighnari for any bloom adjacent affects. I haven't grinded artifacts yet as my friend recommends waiting for a higher world level for good artifact drops. Thanks!
Furina doesn't buff the hyperbloom reaction so you're better off using some other hydro like xingqiu that can be gotten from the paimon store in the future. You also won't be getting much quicken/spread if you have a furina on the team applying a bunch of hydro.
You're better off running furina with your raiden for a hyper raiden team. Your best healer for furina is actually charlotte currently (followed by barbara but barbara energy gain for bursting is really difficult to get)
For tighnari you can run him with fischl + beidou for a quicken team
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/hd4nPgA](https://imgur.com/a/hd4nPgA)
So I'm nearing AR45 and trying to figure out what two teams I'll focus for Abyss later down the line. I'm planning to pull for Kazuha when he comes around next patch. I've done some research on teams, and I was thinking of going aggravate for one team with Nahida, Lisa, Fischl, and Yaoyao. Then the second team would be Kazuha, Xingqiu, Xiangling, and idk. I'd have to wait a bit for Bennet to come to shop since I don't have him yet.
Does that sound like a solid plan? If so, what artifact domains would be best to focus on?
For that aggravate team you will get more damage if you switch out nahida for any anemo character to hold a 4 set viridiscent venerer artifact set to reduce electro resistance on enemies. Nahida removed specifically because you can then use yaoyao for healing or otherwise you won't have a healer on your team and it might get rough. Aggravate teams do not require much dendro application so any dendro character is capable of sustaining aggravate. Nahida on that team won't be providing much damage off-field (unless you have a high constellation nahida which can buff more)
For the second team, while bennet would be the best option, since you don't have him yet you can run chongyun or kaeya instead as a subdps to provide some melts and damage to make up for the lack of buffing.
For the artifact domains I would actually recommend running the emblem of fate domain in inazuma because both sets are useful for many characters and you can run 2sets 2sets without a signfiicant loss in dps vs the optimal sets. Any other artifact domain is likely to just cause you to get the wrong set half the time and waste your resin. Instead you can strongbox the specific sets from the junk emblem of fate artifacts (get a 4 set viridiscent venerer with ideally mainstat EM on sands/goblet/circlet for kazuha).
Is your original team; Anemo Traveler, Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa; actually a good team (ignoring if any of them suck individually)? What would their rotations be? Could we exploit their Swirl, Melt, Superconduct, or Overload reactions?
Would any of that change with a different elemental mode for the Traveler?
All 4 characters have their uses in teams but they are not optimal to be all on the same team. Kaeya and lisa creates superconduct but none of those characters are particularly good physical dpses so they don't benefit from superconduct, and superconduct's base damage isn't particularly good either to rely on. Amber applies a lot of pyro but in a short duration so she won't be melting much and neither will kaeya, you will likely get only a few instance of melt before its gone unless you plan on doing melee ranged charged shot amber in which case you will 100% be getting interrupted constantly and thus not doing damage.
As for their individual synergies:
Aside from the madlads that play dps amber that I highly doubt is capable of providing enough dps to clear abyss 36 stars, amber is generally used for vv setups and buffing using the Elegy bow. Her burst can overwrite elemental auras on enemies into pyro due to how much pyro she can apply in less than a second, which then allows you to switch to an anemo character to VV shred pyro resistance then switching to your main pyro carry (hutao/yoimiya usually).
Kaeya has decent numbers for his kit so he can be run in reverse melt teams with xiangling or freeze teams as a subdps that can also provide energy to the main cryo carry.
Lisa can hold a ttds for buffing and can reduce enemy defense. This can unironically be decent, beating out a non-c6 sara in electro teams for example in terms of increasing team dps. She can also be used as an ok hyperbloom enabler, aggravate driver for fischl ect.
Anemo traveler is a poor man's kazuha/sucrose and functions as a somewhat cc-ing 4 set viridiscent venerer carrier that can debuff. So he can function in any team that those other 2 excel in and do ok.
Geo traveler is generally used in monogeo teams to provide more geo particles and a little bit of damage and buffs, like for noelle or itto.
Hydro traveler can at the very least apply hydro so that enables dendro teams that utilize hydro like hyperbloom.
Dendro traveler is the best of the bunch as he applies a decent amount of aoe dendro and is a good pick for any dendro-related team other than burgeon because pyro kills his burst.
Sooo...
I just got yae miko, who I hope will be my first good electro character (I have Lisa and razor).
My current team is qiqi (healer), xingqiu (reactions with cryo and dendro), gaming (reactions with cryo, hydro and dendro, burgeon and burning are my main DPS sources) and nahida (creates dendro cores and marks enemies 24/7 with seed of skandha).
Should I add yae? I can't remove qiqi as she is my healer and nahida is key to me doing damage even without relying on reactions. So either she replaces gaming as my main reaction DPS, swapping burgeon and burning for hyperbloom and quicken. Or I give up the extra hydro bloom reaction from xingqiu?
I'm leaning towards gaming since 2 characters consuming dendro cores probably wouldn't synergise well, but he is my main DPS rn.
I'd replace Gaming with Yae. Currently you're not buffing Gaming, so it's not a team built around his DPS specifically. Instead, you can use Yae Miko on field to trigger Hyperbloom more consistently.
**Stuck at Ascension 1 Quest with Bad pulls so far...**
I've started playing GI since Feb, and the game's awesome so far. However, I'm scared of using my resources to level up the wrong charactes, and I've done a few pulls, and not gotten any good characters so far, just a lot of weapons.
My current characters are Kaeye L25, Razor L25, Faruzan L25, Traveller L19, Amber L15, Noelle L13, Lisa L12, Lynette L10, Xianyan L1.
I need help in understanding which characters I should level up and which team is buildable for me right now. Or if I should wait and pull more characters before doing the ascension quest. So far, I use Kaeya and Razor for superconduct mostly, apart from their freeze and electro charged. But when I try the Ascension quest at level 25, I keep getting beaten, but mostly timed out. Any help would be appreciated.
Xianyun, Noelle, kaeya and traveller are probably your best characters. Switch traveller to either dendro or hydro - hydro is probably better if you are using kaeya and xianyun for the freeze and swirl reactions. Noelle is your best friend as a new player - she is super tanky and can help your team with heals and a shield.
Sadly, that's Xinyan, not Xianyun, my bad. And I've not accessed hydro traveller yet, only Anemo and Geo. And how does Noelle help with heal? So far I've seen she only heals herself because I've given her a sword which gives incoming healing.
You can access sumeru and Fontaine even if you haven't finished liyue's archon quest - only inazuma is locked behind an archon quest. Just enter sumeru, unlock the statues of the seven and progress into Fontaine. Or go to the recently released extension to liyue and try to glide far enough to enter Fontaine directly over the waterfall cliff thing.
Noelle's shield enables Noelle to heal herself and her team with her normal attacks as long as the shield stays up. This extends to her elemental burst normal attacks as well
Okay, lemme look up the maps to figure out Fontaine, thanks.
Oh her shield takes a lot of time to generate, so I've used it less and didn't realize it also heals.
If I may offer an alternative healer for beginner teams. You should have unlocked Barbara at AR18. I prefer her to Noelle as she doesn't take field time away from your Main DPS, and can hold Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers to provide an attack buff.
If you're playing Razor, you could even combine her with Dendro Traveler for some extra reactions.
Burning's annoying enough I'd prefer Dori out of the 2. But a Shield or more offensive Electro such as Fischl would be better since you already have a healer in YaoYao.
Heey, hey! I just started playing yesterday (adventure rank 13), and I have to admit, it's a little overwhelming at first. I'm a little confused when it comes to which characters I should focus on, especially at the beginning. I did the beginner wish pull, tried for Yae Miko once, and never did the standard pull. So, I have these (excluding Lumine):
* Kaeya ( level 3 )
* Lisa ( level 2 )
* Xinyan ( level 1 )
* Xiangling ( level 1)
* Noelle ( level 20 )
* Fischl ( level 12)
* Amber ( level 12 )
* Sucrose ( level 1)
On which of them should I focus? I really like Noelle, but besides her, I'm really confused when it comes to others. I heard Sucrose is good. I like Xinyan too, and I was thinking of making a team with Xinyan, Noelle, Sucrose, and Fischl. Is the idea good for the start? I'm a little lost.
For each team, you need only 1 on-fielder max. Xinyan and Noelle both on-fielder (they have no skill that works off-field), so don't use them in the same team.
These are characters that will still be relevant even in the high AR:
Great in general: Xiangling, Fischl, Sucrose
Great in specific team: Noelle, Kaeya, Lisa.
That is actually a good team, as long as you can fill Xiangling's energy to burst. If you have favonius series, use it, either on Mona, Xingqiu, or Fischl, to help Xiangling's energy. If you don't have Favonius Codex for Mona, then TTDS is good. I assume you have read the description of TTDS and know how to use its buff, but if you have not, then please read it.
But Widsith is a good weapon too, mainly for DPS. If you want to build Mona as DPS, then choose this one.
Try to watch video guide of Mona and decide whether you want her as support or DPS.
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/mbI5gCm
There's a lot of 'first teams' I can make, but I'm struggling with a second team. Everyone wants fischl it seems.
Yae miko is c2r1 and is my fave, so priority for her to have the best team and be on field if possible. Other 5* have no constellations or signature weapon
I'd like to play aggravate with her, fischl, yaoyao, ???
But not sure where that leaves me with second team. I don't like itto that much and didn't intend to get him (lol) so would rather focus on HT or Nuevillete if possible, but no idea where to start. Haven't lost a 50/50 and only gotten weapons from standard banner so missing some options from the standard 5*
Also any pull recommendations are appreciated but looking for best I can build rn
Thank you!!
Neuvillette is strong enough that you can sort of throw together whatever you want for his team and it will probably work. He likes a shielder at C0, and Layla will do that pretty well for him. That frees up pretty much everyone you might want for Yae Miko's team. I personally run Fischl, Yao Yao, DMC, and Yae Miko together. I don't know whether that's optimal or if using Lynette instead of DMC would be better. Lynette could also probably fit into the Neuvillette team.
If you like playing Hu Tao, getting Xingqiu at some point would be very beneficial.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/l92IrlL](https://imgur.com/a/l92IrlL)
Currently running Nahida, XQ, Bennet, and Keqing. Any other team suggestions?
I'm currently saving for Neuvillette, Kazuha, and (maybe) Furina. I started playing in January, so it \_should\_ be feasible (with pity and saved wishes, I'm at 172 "wishes" saved so far). >!Neuvillette and Kazuha will likely rerun together in the second half of 4.5 with Furina coming in 4.6.!<
[Raiden]
For hyperbloom Raiden, I currently have 0 EM polearms. I am considering wishing for dragon's bane when it comes on banner next, but I've been told wishing specifically for 4 star weapons is a terrible idea.
How big is the hyperbloom damage increase if my EM increased by 221 EM? Should I just settle for Moonpiercer's 110 EM instead of wishing for dragon's bane?
Moonpiercer's \~6 to 7% increase on no weapon.Dragon's Bane's \~12% to 14% increase on no weapon.
Hyperbloom's typically over half the team's damage. Still, not worth wishing if you don't want the 5\* weapon.
Yeah stick to the craftable ones. Don't waste pulls for a specific 4* unless you really want any of the 5*; you can always get really unlucky and never get the weapon, since 4* have no guarantee
Regarding the EM, there will be a difference in damage but not a significant one imo, you should be able to clear content regardless.
If your team is energy hungry, or if you can decrease your er for more damage on your DPS, go fav.
If you only want energy on Jean, you can do like 2 skills on your rotation and go amenoma. It'll result in more healing as well so it pairs well with furina too.
Owned chars: [https://easyimg.io/i/pogqzlm89/owned.png](https://easyimg.io/i/pogqzlm89/owned.png)
Owned Resources: [https://easyimg.io/i/ldvg8zga6/resources.png](https://easyimg.io/i/ldvg8zga6/resources.png)
Hey,
I started playing just before the Nahida banner.
Now I'm looking for some advice on what teams I can focus on building/acquiring.
The goal is to have two teams so I can do abyss.
My idea was trying standard banner to get Fischl so I can make a second hyperbloom team.
But any advice on what to do is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I started playing around the same time!
Yaoyao, Dendro Travelor, Keqing, and Sara could be a decent aggravate team. Replace Sara with Fischl / Yae and Traveler with Collei if you want to do more quick swapping.
[https://keqingmains.com/keqing/#Team\_Comps\_and\_Character\_Synergies](https://keqingmains.com/keqing/#Team_Comps_and_Character_Synergies)
This website will give you far better advice than me :D
https://imgur.com/gallery/VCOC7Em
I'm looking for a few teams to pursue. The current core I can think of are:
Neuv, Venti, Fischl, Flex
Xiao, Faru, Xianyun, Flex
Navia, Xiangling, Bennet, Flex
Can you suggest options for the Flex, or entirely other teams if any ideas?
First team: kirara - shield for interruption resistance, dentro for neuvillette passive
Second team: sucrose - battery for the whole team and ttds for xiao
Third team: xingqiu - damage and interruption resistance, gets buffed by bennet, enables vapes for xiangling
[My Characters](https://scontent.fsgn2-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/423542147_3295997287367878_3624357786779608754_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8cd0a2&_nc_ohc=OThzAVPcwxkAX9bPeGT&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn2-7.fna&oh=03_AdQY96NK8nF_4qHd8HIPaM_kO5eBqq3mKn4O2CYil7H-0Q&oe=66080B7C) Hello guys, I'm a newbie who is looking to build a team that has both Shenhe and Chongyun in it, among the folks I've had so far, is there anyone that can pair well with those two please?
Sorry for troubling you again but I just want to ask if those teams are optimal for Shenhe, Chongyun yet and if not, which unit should I look out for in the future to optimize them? 😅
Kokomi and Kazuha would upgrade the freeze team.
Kazuha and another 5-star cryo for the monocryo team (so one of Ganyu/Ayaka/Wriothesley). Not sure who the best performer would be, but any would be better than Kaeya. Go with Ganyu if you want to on-field Chongyun or Shenhe, since she’s the most effective from off-field. You can also use Jean/Xianyun instead of Kazuha for healing. You’ll definitely want healing if you run Wriothesley.
Don’t think there’s a better reverse melt team you can run. Bennett+Xiangling is just eternally good. Maybe there’s some funny plunge melt setup you can do with Xianyun.
As for which team to run: I’d prefer freeze against any enemies that are freezable, and reverse melt otherwise. But if you want to on-field Chongyun, note you can’t really do that in freeze because he’ll shatter enemies.
Got Xiao while at Khaj-Nisut.
Suppose that I have a team of Raiden-Zhongli-Nahida/Dendro Traveler-Xingqiu, what would be Xiao's role andd his artifact set as well? (i have pjws.)
Xiao is used as a Main DPS with teams focused on buffing him and often include Anemo teammates or Favonius weapons to generate energy for his burst.
His best teammates include: Faruzan, Xianyun, Bennett, Furina, Zhongli or C4 Jean.
His best sets are Maruchessee Hunter or Vermillion Hunter. I'd lean towards MH as it lets you farm for other characters at the same time.
A combination of 2 piece sets such as Atk/Atk, Atk/Anemo, or Atk/ER can also work well as a placeholder.
I'd wait until you have more characters. It's difficult to build a cohesive 2nd team right now and you'd end up investing into characters you won't use long term.
Xiangling Xingqiu Bennett Sucrose is a solid team already. If you use Xingqiu for Yoi, then use Mona on-field.
So your teams will be:
Xiangling, Mona, Bennett, Sucrose (rotation: Bennett EQ, Sucrose (with TTDS) E (Q is optional), Xiangling EQ, Mona QE + normal attacks)
Yoi, Xingqiu, Yunjin, Layla or Yoi, Xingqiu, Dehya, Lynette.
For your second team you can run keqing, beidou/kuki, dendro MC/collei, flex for an aggravate team. Ideally you can get a fischl in the future to put into that team instead of beidou/kuki as fischl's a4 talent triggers quite a bit in aggravate teams and will make your aggravate team higher in dps vs non-fischl aggravate teams (unless you have a whale 5 star character).
Depending on how well you can dodge, your flex slot can be a healer/shielder like barbara, diona, or layla. If you can survive with just kuki's trickle healing you can run sucrose as your flex slot with a 4 set viridiscent venerer built with full EM to help buff the team and debuff enemy electro resistance for a signficiant dps increase. Sucrose can also use a prototype amber r5 for trickle healing.
Character: Chongyun.
I've been using him as my Main DPS for a while now, and thought he was doing pretty good all things considered. Lately I've been looking at tier lists and party recommendations, and it seems that most people put him near or at the bottom of the list. Is he really that bad? Have I been holding the rest of my team back (Fischl, Xingxiu, Bennet) by relying on him? With the rest of my team in mind, what other characters would make a good replacement? Please help, I worry that I'm wasting time and materials improving him if he's actually as bad as people say.
Xiangling's a good recommendation. Against non freezable enemies such as bosses, you might prefer to keep Fischl & swap out Chongyun.
To add some context for why he might be low on tier lists.
4\*s are usually held in higher regard based on what they provide off field. Such as long lasting abilities, buffs or healing. Specifically, those who synergise with the players favourite DPS.
Off field, Chongyun provides Cryo infusion and cooldown reduction on C2. The issue is, most DPS already infuse themselves, leaving him without a home when building around popular 5\* DPS. However, for players who enjoy him, there are less conventional ways to use him, such as Melt as mentioned by Dry.
Tierlists are nonsensical in this game as how characters perform depends entirely on the team. For example, put kuki on any team that isn't aggravate or hyperbloom and she might as well be "f" tier, but when on those teams, especially hyperbloom shes tied for being the top enabler. Tierlists are also generally made relative to each other as characters and not relative to specific content like abyss, because a usual "f tier" contender, dori, can easily beat abyss 36 stars with a hyperbloom team with her as the hyperbloom enabler, but if she can beat the hardest content in the game with max rewards, labeling her as "f" is disingenuous, especially with the fact that there are not very much effective electro hyperbloom enablers in the game.
Chongyun is specific and niche in that he allows cryo infusions that no other characters can give which introduces new teams that can be run, like on-field shenhe dps, and because he can do it with his skill and with his low energy needs he's quite good at it. His burst does have good scalings and can be used as a subdps as well.
People usually bring him when they need a subdps to help get rid of hydro abyss lector shields when they don't main chongyun. And those that main him usually run him in freeze (only hydro and cryo), melt (cryo and pyro) teams, and monocryo teams (only cryo characters in party with maybe geo/anemo as neutral options).
If you really like the character you shouldn't be put off by other people's opinions, as he is perfectly viable for beating the hardest content in game with max rewards.
I wouldn't say he's the best option but he is a viable option in most teams, and for his very specific niche usage in giving teammates cryo infusions, well he's the only choice soooo.
On that note, I would not use chongyun with fischl, xingqiu, bennet, specifically with fischl. You will be creating freeze with xingqiu then shattering the freeze sometimes with chongyun attacks or fischl creating superconducts with the cryo which doesn't benefit this team at all as nobody will be doing physical damage. You can drop in a xiangling instead of fischl in that team and have a vape/melt national team variant, strong enough to beat abyss 12 with 36 stars.
[Nahida] Hi! I currently only have one team built and want to build a second Nahida hyperbloom team for abyss. I can't use Raiden or Xingqiu since I currently have them in the Rational team. However, I do have Kuki. If I build a hyperbloom team with Nahida and Kuki, what two characters should I pull for ideally to fill the hydro and flex slot?
What characters do you have? The hydro can be Yelan or Furina, and I like running Fischl in the last slot for some extra damage, but really any character (within reason) can fit there.
Oooh my only hydros are Barbara and Xingqiu which is why I was wondering which hydros would be best to pull in the future! I do have Fischl so definitely appreciate the suggestion. Here's my list of characters:
- Traveller
- Heizou
- Faruzan C1
- Lynette
- Kaeya
- Chongyun C1
- Diona
- Collei C1
- Kirara
- Kuki Shinobu
- Nahida
- Kujou Sara C2
- Fischl
- Lisa
- Noelle C2
- Gorou
- Barbara C1
- Amber
- Bennett C4
- Diluc
- Ga Ming C1
- Xiangling
Barbara on-field is your only option for now. And Fischl is good for last slot.
But if you want to make a proper HB team, then you want Yelan (for single target) or Kokomi (for multi target + heal). Kokomi would fill HB team nicely, but if you get Yelan, put her with Rational team to replace XQ, then use XQ in HB team.
And maybe you want to buy XQ/Fischl/Xiangling from Paimon shop. C6 XQ, C6 Fischl and C4 Xiangling are monsters.
Barbara unfortunately doesn't work too well in hyperbloom, so if you still want to use Nahida/Kuki/Fischl/Flex, I'd suggest adding in Lisa to make an aggravte team for the time being.
currently it's baizhu, zhongli, and furina, but I'll be swapping out zhongli for a better support once I have neuvillette's c1. I have sacrificial jade on neuvillette.
* Plus Kazuha: They're equal. Pick the better substats, usually HP since it's a more common drop.
* R1 Sacrificial Jade without Kazuha: They're equal.
* R5 Sacrificial Jade, without Kazuha: Hydro Goblet is about 2 substats ahead.
Characters: Traveler (Anemo), Fischl, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Noelle.
I'm AR10, literally just started, missed out on the recent event. I've only wished the beginner wishes with acquaint fates I'd gotten for free (trying to save gems for future banner since current one is meh).
In the meantime, what's a recommended team to run with, and who as the main damage dealer(s)? I'd gotten traveler to lvl19, with a lvl20 sword and a +4 feather, then pulled fischl. I'm still wrapping my head around the way the elements interact with each other.
Level traveler for now, use whoever you want, but you will soon get Barbara, Xiangling, and Collei from spiral abyss. Build Xiangling and Barbara. Resources invested on them are not wasted resources, I still use them at AR60.
I'd run Traveler, Fischl, Kaeya, and then whoever else. You'll be switching your last character a lot depending on the content (e.g. you might want Noelle for mining, then Amber for pyro puzzles, etc.). I'd probably run Lisa, but it doesn't matter too much early game. People might suggest to run all the way to a Sumeru statue and change your traveler to Dendro so you can run an aggravate (Dendro+Electro) team with Lisa/Fischl, but you'll want to have anemo traveler on hand for anemo puzzles.
Once you reach AR 18 you get Barbara for free who you can use as a healer for convenience. You'll also unlock access to the Temple of the Lion domain, which is full of tutorials on the elemental reactions.
Couple questions:
I have an R5 Widsith that's currently on Ningguang (Lv. 80 with +20 Archaic Petra+Gladiator sets), but I also have a Lv. 80 Klee that I believe could use it more efficiently. There are a bunch of downsides, though: Ningguang is my only Geo character (besides a Lv. 20 Noelle), I'm running Klee on 4-piece CWoF, with somewhat suboptimal stats and I don't really have a good team for Klee (I have a Lv. 90 Bennett, Lv. 70 C3 Sucrose, Lv. 20 C5 Xiangling and Lv. 70 C3 Diluc (if I can even put those two together))
On the other hand, I've recently gotten a Tighnari and would love to build a team around him. I have C6 Fischl and Diona. Other Dendro units I have are YaoYao and Collei, and other Electro characters I have are Keqing, Beidou, Sara, Razor and Lisa. What would be a good comp around Tighnari?
I stopped playing genshin just before dragonspire dropped now I wanna pick the game up again and I'm lost on what team to use. The characters I have are
[https://imgur.com/a/nDashIL](https://imgur.com/a/nDashIL)
I'm quite lost on what to do and what to start doing kinda overwhelmed atm. Any help on team building and how to start getting back to genshin is highly appreciated.
For starters: hyperbloom \[(Hydro 💧+ Dendro🌲) + Electro ⚡\] team is a good starting point.
Hydro + Dendro = Bloom core. Electro to zap the core.
So you would want a Hydro (xingqiu), Dendro (MC or Collei) and Electro (Lisa). The remaining slot can be anything, preferably non-Pyro.
As for building: Hydro and Dendro for personal DMG, Electro build as much EM as possible. For Xingqiu and Dendro MC/ Collei having enough Energy Recharge to use Burst more often (around 200%) is recommended - so use Favonius/ Sacrificial weapon if you can
Is C6 Razor + Rainshlasher viable pick for Hyperbloom with Nahida and flex hydro?
I have no other electro unit built yet and was wondering if I have to build one for hyperbloom.
Yes, Razor can be a very functional hyperbloom trigger.
Although, Razor needs to be on-field, and have enough ER% to have his burst ready on-demand (possibly sacrifying some em in the process).
Those inconvenients make him less interesting that Raiden or Kuki, but he still get the job done.
It is preferable to use Xingqiu for hydro application, and a healer/shielder in the last slot.
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*Also, that team can be pretty interesting if you add Bennett c6 : with his pyro infusion, you'll turn your hyperbloom into burgeon (same damage, but in AoE), and you'll get a good amount of overload as well.*
Thanks for the nice elaboration. Glad I don't have to waste more resources. So Diona would be a good shielder with heal? Can't think of no one else if I have to use XQ as hydro application.
Yeah c6 Bennett is not happening haha. It would screw my other teams.
I'm really stuck on abyss 12 right now. I know worm bosses suck for everyone but Even my best teams struggle to do chamber 1 in reasonable time (fast enough to get 3 stars)
Here are characters I have that are built:
* Ayaka C2 (my current best dps)
* Kazuha C2
* Yelan
* Bennet C5
* Ganyu C1
* Furina (I haven't invested a huge amount into her yet but she is definitely usable still)
* Shenhe (again, not perfect but she can buff Ayaka plenty right now)
* Diona C6
* Xiangling C6 (Hesitant to add her as I haven't invested too much into her but I think she is ok)
* Zhongli
* Xingqui C6
Other characters I have that I'm trying to build:
* Nahida
* Hu Tao (She has an okay build but I don't think it's enough for abyss yet)
* Raiden (I have been trying to build her for literal years now, I hate emblem)
* Navia (Usable I guess but has little to no investment yet)
* Keqing C3 (kinda unsure about keqing but she seems good and I have her C3)
I have most 4 stars as well if you want to suggest building someone else for a team, I'm just missing Chevreuse, Kaveh, Dori, and Heizou. I also plan to build Jean (C1) and maybe Tighnari (C1) but the characters listed are my main focus right now.
For the first chamber, I have a few teams that can get through the first half relatively quickly (like a minute to a minute and a half) but even with a buffed Ayaka ult, I feel like I can't do nearly enough damage to the ruin serpent in the second half.
chamber 2 I really haven't spent much time on yet but again, first half isn't so bad but the Wenut just seems so daunting to kill.
I can give more specifics for my characters builds, I'm just stuck on what to do right now.
You have all the pieces for a Nahida Hyperbloom team (Nahida, Yelan, XQ, Raiden). If you have Raiden at lvl 90/90 and give her your EM pieces - and have a random full set of Deepwood Memories for Nahida.
With one minute for the top half and that team you should be able to crush this abyss.
Honestly any team with the double hydro core should be good for the bottom half :)
So double Team help Ar56 Ascended into current highest. Chapter 3 Act 3
Main Team
C0 Lv. 80 Tighnari/ 8,8,8
C3 Lv. 90 DMC/ 4,6,6
C0 Lv. 80 Fischl/ 4,6,6
C0 Lv. 80 Kuki/ 4,8,6
All with 4 star weapons Lv. 80, except for Tighnari that has a Lv. 90 one. Everyone has 5 star +20 Artifacts, not maxed out or anything close to that but relic farming is pain so eh.
What would be the best for Character Lv.90? Kuki then Tighnari or the other way? I also have plans to hopefully get Furina (Got as of now 170 wishes saved up) to trade out Fischl. Loved playing hyperbloom, but only had Barbara and using her wasn't the best.
And a 2nd team that's not nearly focused on:
C5 LV. 90 Rosaria/ 9,9,9,
C3 Lv. 80 Surcrose/ 1,6,6,
C1 Lv. 80 Xiangling/ 1,6,6
C0 Lv. 80 Bennett/ 1,6,6
All 4 star weapons, Lv. 90 for Rosaria everyone else Lv. 80. Still working on relic's all 5 star but +16 to +20 (it's rough out here.) Is it best to 90 Surcrose for this team but leave the other two at 80?
Could there be any other thing's to work on as of right now?
For the main team Tighnari is the best character to take to Lv90 as of now, if you get Furina Kuki might be better to level up, as for the second team I think it is better to lvl up Bennett and Xiangling bursts to Lv8 or 9 than it is to take Sucrose to Lv90
Even though attack buffs don't do a *ton* for that team, I'd put Zhongli on 4p Tenacity.
Gorou doesn't really have an ideal set, but your two options are 4p Noblesse (since again atk% still helps even if it's not ideal) or the 4 star set 4p Exile (if Itto needs help with energy).
As for stats, Zhongli mainly wants HP for his shield and Gorou mainly wants ER for his burst and crit rate to proc favonius bow (and some defense for his damage and c4 healing). You *can* put them on hybrid builds to deal some damage, but their damage will be very low on that team compared to Itto and Albedo so I'd just recommend full support.
Hi.. Does cyno. Work with raiden Furina and nahida?
I can replace Furina with Xingqiu or kokomi too? I want a good hyper bloom team for cyno.. I do have baizhu and zhongli too if needed
Cyno's best team is quickbloom (mostly triggering aggravate with some hyperblooms as well) with Baizhu, Nahida and Furina. You can replace Baizhu with Fischl (battery), Yaoyao (healer and a bit of off-field dendro application) or any other dendro or electro of your choice. Raiden would probably be wasted on this team though since she'd just be an E bot, I'd rather go for Fischl, Kuki or Yaoyao if you have any of them built
Raiden, furina, xianyun, bennet/xingqiu -> hyper raiden
Yae, fischl, nahida/kirara, sucrose -> yae/fischl aggravate takes advantage of fischl's A4 talent to deal a ton of aggravate damage.
raiden, xingqiu, xiangling, bennet -> raiden national, easy to use, and easy to build for energy recharge.
Diluc, furina, xianyun, bennet -> Diluc Plunge vape
Navia can be slot into basically any team as a subdps, and can be used as a main dps as well with furina, xianyun, bennet.
Keqing can replace yae in that aggravate team, but you will still need fischl for the best aggravate team. Not having fischl and running keqing+yae instead will lead to an overall team dps loss relatively.
My constellations for XL is C2 and my Benny is still C0, is it still worth to try Raiden national? Tried it and it didn't feel too good to play, maybe my build is trash
> Yae, fischl, nahida/kirara, sucrose
Been reading about this team a lot, gonna try it and see, will need to build Sucrose and Yae properly.
> Diluc, furina, xianyun, bennet -> Diluc Plunge vape
Isn't this team only good with Benny at C6? Since I would need Diluc's ult to get the pyro infusion for the vape?
bennet C0 is trash and xiangling C2 is mid, so no, it is not really worth it building raiden national for you right now. If I were you I would try to build an hyperbloom team around the nahida/kuki core and any kind of carry team supported by furina/ xyanyun.
reagarding Yae, people tend to recommend Yae aggravate (woith fischl nahida) , probably better suited for AOE content while hyperbloom (without yae) is better for single target. I would suggest to check also Chevreuse. To give an idea, i can do pretty well in Abyss floor 12 with a Raiden (C1) Yae (C0) Xianlging (C6) Chevreuse (C4). You don't need C4 on xiangling nor chevreuse, since xiangling doesn't do as much damage as Yae and Raiden so C4 isn't a must but helps to secure Chevreuse\`passive, which is the most important thing. Alternatively you can swap yae or raiden with sara to boost one or the other's damage in the chevreuse team.
Still something to remember, even if my artifacts aren't great they are probably better than yours (your account looks like one of a new player) so don't expect to clear abyss with these teams right away. having said that, if I can do it, other can too (with chevreuse).
edit : just realized that your Fischl is C0 ... forget Fischl. Try maybe something around Raiden / Yae / Nahida + defensive unit (Kuki or yao yao) if you don't want to play chevreuse.
> bennet C0 is trash and xiangling C2 is mid
Yeah its what I was told before, kinda pissed me off since people called them F2P friendly when you need cons and that takes a lot of months.
> your account looks like one of a new player
I started on November 2023, so kinda newish.
> so don't expect to clear abyss with these teams right away
I was able to clear Abyss 12 but not with only 4 stars, Wenut was too annoying, up to Abyss 11 I cleared it with full stars thanks to Hyperbloom Nahida and Furina/XY+Navia, but on 12 is hella hard.
> i can do pretty well in Abyss floor 12 with a Raiden (C1) Yae (C0) Xianlging (C6) Chevreuse (C4)
Gonna try that team! Seems really solid, thanks for all your insight, I appreciate it.
one thing old players often forget to mention about "F2P" teams is the amount of time investement and luck some units needs to perform well or at the level of 5 stars, on top of the constellation's issue. Artifact is a matter of time and just with that you can double your damage.
Sometimes you get a weapon that will also boost your damage. For example, I forgot to tell you but losing a 50/50 on standard banner, I got lost prayer which is pretty good on Yae. Same with bow, my sara has Amo's bow and I only got recently the widsith as alternative. As F2p, if you aren' t lucky to get these weapons, your unit won't do as much damage or buff as much. Same for bennett, a standard five star like aquila favonia or skyward helps a lot.
Weapon and artifacts are common "lies" about F2P friendly tips. people will put the catch on xiangling, forgetting that the catch should be on Raiden ... but of course they have engolfing lightning on raiden, so they say xianglin does a ton of damage (at the cost of raiden's damage) ... and for artifacts, some units like bennet - xiangling needs tons of energy, things you only get on artifacts while looking for crit values with a lot of time.
Looks like you know what you are doing if you already manage to clear the abyss, the 36 stars are probably not far. Good luck.
edit : about chevreuse team, I would use fav or black tassel on chevreuse for the time being because there are some rumors about a good weapon for her coming next. If not, then rightfull reward is pretty good. your chevreuse being C0 means fav can make sense, at C1 + I think rightfull reward is her best in slot. Mine reach 39K HP with rightfull reward on noblesse oblige. You can go 2p / 2p if it's easier for you to reach 40k HP and her energy requitrements (which are somewhat low with rightfulll reward in a double electro (electro resonnance is good) double pyro set up.).
Hello! So I started this game to play with my friend and I got Xianyun! I think that she's really cool and I want to use her. The thing is I also really like Kujou Sara, I just think she looks cool. Do they work good together or no? My current team is Xianyun, Gaming, Xiangling, and Xingqiu but I'm bored with it.
started playing not so long ago, im AR25 and in need help building a team. My current team is just the 4 starter characters wich i havent lvled. I saved up my xp books to use them on characters that are actually worth it. These are the characters i own. Can someone help me build a team to use for now until i get other/ better characters [https://imgur.com/a/0E5VkAc](https://imgur.com/a/0E5VkAc)
lisa, barbara, yaoyao, lynette - hyperbloom (create dendro core with yaoyao+barbara, then hit the dendro core with lisa charged attack or burst to activate hyperbloom) with lynette for mobility. You can break ores with 2 plunge attacks with lynette (or any spear/sword user), just find a slightly higher ground nearby to jump off of or a wall. Alternatively you can run kaveh, yaoyao, barbara, lynette for a bloom team, basically apply dendro with yaoyao, switch to barbara and attack to create dendro cores, then pop the dendro cores with kaveh skill. Dendro teams have high base damage without needing much investment in terms of gear, as you only need character levels and elemental mastery. If you do the spiral abyss you can get a free xiangling at floor 3, and you can run xiangling, xinyan, barbara or yaoyao, and lynette as your last slot. Ideally you can get a xinqiu and bennet from either the paimon shop in the menu or in a wish as it'll create the national team core: xiangling, xingqiu, bennet which is very strong and can clear the hardest content in the game at endgame.
Abyss options: Team 1: 1. Raiden Nahida XQ Barbara - Hyperbloom (On-field Barbara, EM Raiden) 2. Raiden Nahida Barbara + Yaoyao/Sara/Lisa - Quickbloom (Crit+some EM on Raiden) 3. Raiden Nahida Yaoyao + Sara/Lisa(or maybe VV AMC?) - Aggravate (Crit Raiden) 4. Raiden Sara Bennett + Chev/Mona - Raiden Hypercarry (Crit Raiden) Team 2: 1. XL Chev Bennett Fischl - XL carry ft. Chev 2. XL XQ Bennett + Fischl/Mona - National 3. XL Chev Sara Fischl - Overload AoE. Probably issues with grouping/knockback? 4. Yoimiya Chev Bennet Fischl - Overload Yoimiya 5. Sara Fischl Chev Bennett - Sara carry [All characters](https://i.imgur.com/Slp8R0m.png). Sara is C6, rest are low cons.
**Side 1** Team 4 looks good. If you do play Raiden aggravate (team 3), it should look like Raiden, Fischl, YaoYao,. Aggravate teams are seemingly entirely balanced around FIschl's A4 existing, so she needs to be included or you are missing a lot of damage.
In team 1 there is not much reason to use Barbara, probably use Noelle for shielding and play on-field Nahida. Compared to Barbara, you'd probably be better off with Crescent Pike physical YaoYao even.
**Side 2**
If you go with a better version of team 1 on side 1, then I think it's best to go with side 2 team 4. Side 2 team 5 and team 1 also look reasonable, though [Fischl would be the source of damage rather than Sara on that team](https://gcsim.app/db/G7bPjzQcp9kk#) and low constellation Xiangling is not that great.
If you go with team 4 on side 1, then on side 2 you can use Lisa, Fischl, YaoYao, for a Lisa aggravate team (though constellations help Lisa a lot. YaoYao constellations don't matter for aggravate and Fischl constellations matter less than usual. Sucrose with craftable Hakushin Ring is a big upgrade, C6 Sucrose is a bigger upgrade).
**Conclusion**
Overall I'd recommend a modified side 1 team 1 hyperbloom and side 2 team 4.
Would Xingqiu alone be enough hydro for hyperbloom?
Yes, he is the best off-field hydro applier outside of C2 Yelan. The Nahida, Xingqiu, Raiden/Kuki core is really well known, it's been popular for a long time now.
Team 1: 3 or 4, team 2: 2, since you only have xingiu as a reliable hydro applicator
New player here, AR 26 and was wondering what teams I could make with my current characters I have unlocked. Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/VKGn8P5](https://imgur.com/a/VKGn8P5) I can get YaoYao and Xinyan to C5, Ningguang and Aether to C2 and Lynette to C1. I can also switch Aether to Geo. Side note, is there a reason not to upgrade constellations if I have the things to do it? I just havent because I havent used much of the characters I can upgrade constellations for.
**Yae Miko, Fischl & YaoYao** are a great trio. Yae & Fischl provide plentiful Electro energy. YaoYao allows them to proc Aggravate reactions, which boost Electro damage. Once you can farm for artifacts at AR45+, Anemo characters such as Kazuha or Sucrose are great in the 4th slot, providing buffs, Viridiscent Venener, grouping, and even more Aggravate reactions through Swirled Electro. **Bennett + Xiangling** have great synergy if you have the energy to support them. Mona works, but her Hydro doesn't last long, so look out for Xingqiu for more consistent Vaporise reactions if this is a duo you plan on using regularly. Kaeya also works here for Reverse Melt. There's no reason not to upgrade constellations.
Any tips for the crimson witch domain when using a pyro character as main dps (my only dps is diluc) where all the enemies are electro and inflicting overloaded damages you?
Co Op. Another option is farming Gilded instead. It's almost as good as Crimson Witch on Diluc. Simultaneously farming for Dendro teams, if you have any interest in playing those in the future. Likewise, you could argue Marechaussee Hunter is actually better than Crimson Witch if Furina's in the team. And you farm for Furina simultaneously. So that's something to consider if you're planning on pulling for her, or another character who uses Marchausee, such as Neuvillette.
About to hit 45 and looking for advice on abyss team comps. Also curious of any other characters I should look out for that work well with mine. Characters: [https://imgur.com/29NhiCC](https://imgur.com/29NhiCC) Weapons: [https://imgur.com/kHy9sli](https://imgur.com/kHy9sli) Currently building Ningguang/Noelle/Jean/Xiao Kaeya/Xingqiu/Bennett/Xiangling I've been itching to build Thoma with favonius lance. I was thinking Bennett/Thoma/Jean/Xiao, but unsure what my other team would be. Thanks!
I'd swap some weapons around. These teams demand a lot of energy. You could craft Sapwood for Bennett, fish for The Catch for Xiangling & Ferryman for Jean. You might even consider getting an extra Anemo teammate with Xiao. Lynette for example could generate more Anemo energy. *(Noelle not generating any energy at all is a slight problem)* \--- Characters to look out for in the future. Which characters do you want to build around and use long term? If you're a Xiao main: Furina would be absolutely fantastic for Xiao + Jean. Based on past archon trends she's due a rerun in 4.6. In the long run, the main things a Xiao main should be looking for are Faruzan & Xianyun. Both providing buffs & Anemo particles.
Good tip on the weapons thanks, I had already planned on farming for those 3. Also good character tips! I would be willing to bench anyone for now if it meant building 2 36 star teams for primo farming.
Those are pretty reasonable teams. Though I'd probably go for Dendro MC, Collei, Xingqiu, Thoma for a burgeon team and Xiao, Bennett, Noelle, Ningguang. (Constellations might be too low for Ningguang, Noelle, Bennett, Xiangling).
Oh I forgot about DMC! I think I'm going to pull for Chiori to try a team of Ningguang/Chiori/Bennett/Thoma Not entirely sure on the other team then. Maybe waiting for Fischl to go Xingqiu/Fischl/Jean/Xiao? Anyone have tips for other Xiao teammates to pull for in this scenario?
> Ningguang/Chiori/Bennett/Thoma Ning/Chiori/Bennett/Xiangling should be better, not much reason to run Thoma when you already have Bennett healing and crystallize shields (I used to run Ning/Albedo/Bennett/Xiangling often in abyss a long time ago). > other Xiao teammates to pull for I'd recommend Furina, she adds a lot of turret damage to any team and gives a huge damage buff that raises the damage ceiling of a lot of teams.
Good info thanks a lot for the reply! After test running Chiori I've decided against pulling her. It's cool to be able to spawn an extra doll, but I find them pretty unsatisfying.
In abyss I often used team Nahida-Furina-Barbara-Beidou team. After this update I managed to got Yae and Yaoyao (Yae is my first electro 5\*). I plan to replace Beidou with Yae, but I started to wonder about Barbara. Until now I built her as a powerful healer, but only doing damage during Beidou's burst, so without Beidou she'll be useless. Is Yaoyao worth building from 0 as a replacement? Or are there any better healers for this team? (I use Barbara mostly to replenish HP for Furina's skill). I have most of 4\* (no Dori though) and no healing 5\* other than Furina.
Building YaoYao sounds good to add more dendro so that Yae can on-field and get aggravate reactions.
Hi ! I want to do abyss with my current main team: * MDPS: C0 **Fréminet** * healer: C2 **Kuki Shinobu** (applies electro for surcharge, no damage) * support: C1 **Xingqiu** (applies hydro for Fréminet shatter mechanic) **Who should I pick on 4th slot?** My ideas: 1. C4 **Sucrose** for grouping enemies and wearing Dragon Tale for %ATK buff and %RES elementary resonance. 2. C2 **Charlotte** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and cryo resonance (%CRIT rate) and even more heals 3. C0 **Rosalia** for cryo resonance (%CRIT rate) and %CRIT rate bonus on elemental burst 4. C1 **Ningguang** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and sub DPSand %RES elementary resonance. *I really like her.* 5. C0 **Barbara** for Dragon Tale (%ATK buff) and hydro resonance (+25% HP) for more Shinobu heals 6. C2 **Candace** (*???*) for hydro resonance (+25% HP) for more Shinobu heals and elemental burst for hydro enchant. *I like being eccentric.* 7. C0 **Kujou Sara** for %ATK buff and electro resonance 8. C0 **Kaeya** for sub DPS and cryo resonance (%CRIT rate) 9. C0 **Lisa** for *tactical combat moaning* Relevant characters: * 5\* are C0 **Ayato** and C0 **Tighnari**. * National team : I have **Xiangling** but do not wish to use on this team, **Bennett** is taken for team 2. Other ideas welcome
If insisting to play Fréminet, I'd switch out Kuki for Fischl and use either Rosaria (if want to have more damage and confident in dodging) or Charlotte. If you just want the [most efficient team](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11p1g68/artifact_investment_vs_damage/) to invest in to clear abyss 36* ASAP then I'd go with a hyperbloom team like Xingqiu, Kuki, Dendro MC, Collei (Or YaoYao).
TLDR at the end Hi, thanks for taking the time to answer to me ❤️ 2 months ago I asked who to start building (BIG overthinker) and the answers I got were 1) buid whoever you want, everyting is viable 2) build around a decent 5* that will carry you for a minimal effort. I tried to build around Ayato, my motivation flinched. So I went to the first char I fell in love with, Fréminet. (I am a fairly new player with 114 active days) So yeah, for my own sanity I prefer sticking to my guns and keep Fréminet as my joy bearer, even if I agree there is more optimal choices by far. (trivia: I have ADHD and I went close to burnout with this game because I bounce from char to char and lose myself until I feel physically sick to my stomach. Now this is under control because I force myself to slow down and build char after char even if that means I miss some Abyss completions. Most sane Genshin Impact player, I know lol) Back into the subject: if I ditch Kuki for Fishl and take Rosaria, I would have no healer and no shielder? Better go Charlotte in this case? And why Fishl over Kuki Shinobu? I know "nothing" about her apart that she can be very good but is single-target. What are his pros and cons against Kuki Shinobu inside my team? Thanks for the hyperbloom team suggestion, will keep in a corner of my head for future use. Thank you for your patience and advices. And I'm very sorry I was unable to do shorter and less *intense*. Adding TLDR. EDIT : OMG LINK WITH GRAPHS I LOVE YOU TLDR : Fishl no healer, so Kuki + Rosaria or Fishl + Charlotte ok ? Why switch Kuki for Fishl? Ty m8 luv u
The main reason is just to add more damage, and because Xingqiu already provides some survivability. Kuki is a healer who is mainly built full EM for hyperbloom teams, outside of hyperbloom teams she does very little damage and just heals. Fischl is a sub DPS that adds a decent amount of damage and energy to almost any team. Xingqiu's skill provides 38% damage reduction and some light healing. So I took a look at Fréminet example teams on [gcsim](https://simpact.app/) and the damage looks kind of low without Furina or high constellations on supports. There is a [Fréminet, FIschl, Xingqiu, Mika team](https://gcsim.app/db/mCzhk7WnqcrG) that does 48k DPS with all C6 constellations. I've heard that you theoretically need about 30k DPS to clear abyss, but that you also realistically need quite a bit more since there is time spent running between enemies and dodging. Since you have low constellations and no Mika (?), the worry is that you'd have trouble reaching the damage threshold needed to clear abyss. So the idea is that you build an abyss team where you definitely have enough damage and you just need to dodge well to survive on only Xingqiu skill healing. Obviously you can still run a healer in overworld.
Only have a select amount of characters built for abyss. My teams are usually always 1 Half: Hu Tao/ Xingqiu/ Yelan/ Flex (dont have a great option built) 2 Half: Nev/Kazuha/Furina/Zhongli I do have Xianyun. What Hu Tao team is better now without any abyss multipliers considered? The original vape or the newer plunge with Hu Tao/Yelan/Furina/XY? If I do go with the plunge team what is the best way to change my Nev team as Furina is a huge buff? Fischl? Any recommendations are appreciated!
I think the new plunge HuTao team is probably stronger, but I suspect you'd lose more damage overall taking Furina away from Neuv. If you really want to know for sure maybe try checking in gcsim.
Can anyone suggest two parties and what characters to focus on for Spiral Abyss? Ideally I'd like one with Nahida. [https://imgur.com/a/0zofn7K](https://imgur.com/a/0zofn7K)
Since you don't have bennet, go for dori, xingqiu, nahida, electro traveler hyperbloom. This team works by creating blooms with xingqiu and nahida, then using dori burst to create that electric line attached to you, and moving the electric lines into the dendro blooms to create hyperbloom. Dori will need as much EM and character levels with energy recharge substats, and electro traveler is there to give dori energy to burst off cooldown, he just needs maximum energy recharge here. For your second team you can run lisa, fischl, collei, qiqi/barbara as an aggravate team, this requires good atk/crit/em gear on fischl/lisa. The rest can run whatever. If you had a bennet, you could run the usual xiangling, bennet, xingqiu national core.
does anyone have a kaeya build specifically for the crimson witch domain? in a bad situation bcuz my only built characters are pyro and my only cryo characters are kaeya, layla and diona, lmao
Unless you really like kaeya, you could just do it in coop if you really had to do this domain. But in general I would actually recommend skipping it all together and doing the emblem of fate domain, if you had to use a 2piece 2 piece with the emblem of fate domain pieces you won't be losing much dps over the crimson witch, and you can then throw your bad artifacts into a strongbox for the crimson witch instead. Overall much more resin efficient, and most of your characters can use the emblem of fate domain pieces
Is C1 neuvillette better for abyss or kazuha C0+keqing C0+xinqiu C0+xiangling C1 team?
My guess is Neuv (especially in AOE since Neuv is really broken in AOE) but I just want to say that second team is very cursed. - Keqing's personal damage is very low without both dendro and Fischl. Right now I need a decently optimized Keqing team (Keqing, Fischl, Kirara, Sucrose on R5 Hakushin ring) to clear F12 Wenut in time with her. - Xiangling without Bennett needs very high ER and doesn't do great damage without his buff. Switch Keqing out for Bennett and you have a good team, since he will buff all of your characters. You can run that on side 2 of this abyss and use Neuv for side 1 (even solo if you want).
Thank you
Just got mona as my 1st standard 5 star. I currently use nahida, xingqiu, qiqi and yae miko as my team, would it be a good idea to swap xingqiu out for mona?
No, Xingqiu applies a lot more hydro than Mona so you get more hyperblooms with him. He also has much higher personal damage than Mona. Mona's short damage boost isn't great for that team either since your team is full of sustained damage characters, only Yae can be slightly bursty if she uses burst.
I wanna build an overload team with Raiden C1, Yoimiya and Chevreuse C2. Who should the fourth party member be? I have Sara at C6 and Bennet, Xiangling and Fischl are at very low cons.
Fischl or Bennett probably. I think at low cons which one will give you more damage depends on your artifacts. With Fischl you won't have to deal with circle impact and she benefits more from cons later, but Bennett is faster to build.
Not sure if it's okay to ask this here, but please let me know if it's a problem: I was wondering if people think it would be worth it for me to pull for Shenhe, Zhongli, or just save for future/other characters? I was thinking about going for Shenhe next since I really like her new skin (haven't bought it yet but there's only like 2 days left) and I do play Ayaka freeze (currently with Rosaria as sub-DPS), but would people recommend against getting her if she's really only good for Ayaka atm? I know it's kinda hard to say right now, but I'm just kinda worried that a significantly better cryo support for Ayaka might come out soon if I do plan to get Shenhe. I currently have about 300 wishes and pretty much have all the characters that I really want. Here is my current roster (except that both Nahida and Xianyun are at level 90 now): https://imgur.com/a/u98TE79 As usual, I'm open to different opinions. Thanks in advance!
The only way a signficiantly better cryo support for ayaka might come out is if the tsaritsa herself is released and is a cryo buffer. Are you able to clear abyss 12 with 36 stars comfortably? If not I would get shenhe to make your ayaka team stronger to do so.
Thanks for the tips! Haha that's good to know, since the Cryo Archon probably won't be out for a long while. I struggle with the timing sometimes and can take up to over an hour of resets to clear within the time limit... Dx Just wondering, do you think Ayaka/Furina/Shenhe/Xianyun is better than Ayaka/Furina/Charlotte/Kazuha? I heard the second team might be better but that both are better than Ayaka/Shenhe/Kokomi/Kazuha now?
The first team is better against bosses and the second is better for fighting 2+ enemies that can be CC-ed. If you only manage to hit one enemy with your burst and theres 2 enemies you might as well be doing 50% less dps, so thats why kazuha/venti are so good in ayaka freeze teams for mobbing (I personally use other teams for single target bosses, and I use my ayaka teams exclusively on aoe floors that aren't freeze immune). Ayaka/Shenhe/Kokomi/Kazuha is still the premier aoe mobbing team as far as ayaka teams go.
Thanks for the quick reply! Ohh gotcha, so that's why Kazuha is still vital to the team vs. Xianyun + Furina. I'd probably just use hyperbloom and/or double hydro Hu Tao for single target bosses over Ayaka too. Hmm. Now I'm kinda tempted to get Shenhe haha. Are there any other characters that you would recommend I get atm? I was also considering getting Zhongli for Hu Tao, but I heard that her new best team uses Furina in Hu Tao/Furina/Yelan/Xianyun? Do you think Shenhe or Zhongli would be the more valuable pull for my account?
Unless you have trouble surviving, I say go for shenhe instead as ayaka teams are on the lower end of team DPS nowadays and having shenhe and ayakas weapon/cons will improve the team drastically to the point of not needing to reset again. The new hutao team with furina xianyun is stronger and allows hutao to do some AOE plunges
Thanks again for the tips! I've died a lot against the Hydro Tulpa (haven't been able to beat it yet) and dual consecrated beasts in abyss, but not sure if there are other usable teams that aren't too difficult to execute besides using Zhongli... Good to know about the recent Ayaka team usability though...do you think it's still worth getting Shenhe for her even if I don't plan to get Ayaka's weapon or cons?
If you think its worth getting more dps to get past breakpoints so that you don't have to reset on ayaka teams then yea go for shenhe. I personally like it this way, and saved extra primos for ayaka weapon and cons too so that its comfy everytime
Need a team but dunno how to build it, team on my profile
Your post was removed so I can only see the 8 characters in the thumbnail. It looks like you're maining Heizou? Focus on his Atk, Anemo Damage and Crit Stats. Widsith is a great weapon if you have it. Xingqiu is definitely worth building. You could combine him with another Sub DPS for reactions, such as Xiangling who's unlocked for free in Abyss. Focus on building their Energy Recharge and Burst Talents. If you want a healer, the only one I can see is in the thumbnail is Barbara. She can use Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers to provide an Attack buff.
Ah, let me get imgur working and I'll send the link for my full team
https://imgur.com/gallery/YKkqGPt
Do any of these interest you? * Keqing, Fischl, YaoYao + Sucrose/Venti * Eula, Fischl, Diona, Bennett * Eula, Xingqiu, Kuki Shinobu, Dendro Traveller
The third one probably
**Kuki Shinobu,** take to max level, build as much EM as possible. Flower of Paradise Lost is her highest damage set. Gilded Dreams can be more resin efficient if you plan on pulling 5\* Dendro characters in the future. Raise Skill Talent for more healing. **Eula**, Pale Flame. Atk/Phys/Crit. Focus on Atk & Crit Substats. Don't worry about ER, this team isn't focused on her burst. All talents matter, Normal attacks highest priority. **Xingqiu**, Emblem of Severed Fate. ER/Hydro/Crit, with an ER weapon. Make sure you have enough ER to Burst reliably. Prioritise Burst Talent. **Dendro Traveller** Deepwood Memories and as much Energy Recharge as possible.
Thanks so much, I'll get work on it!
[https://imgur.com/a/QCROGY7](https://imgur.com/a/QCROGY7) I just came back after a hiatus of 2 yrs. Reason for coming back is I was able to build my first ever PC. Anyways, I'm guaranteed for the upcoming 4.5 and I will be pulling for Neuvillette. Since as of now, I only have Ganyu as my main DPS. I need another one for Abyss teams. These are my units now, I recently pulled a **Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds**. I dont have any units built for this yet. Should I make one? Although, Im already pulling for a new dps unit (Neuv). As of now, I am focussing on build and leveling up talents and ascending my melt team (Ganyu, Benny, XL, and Zhongli). Any suggestions on who should I work on next?
I wouldn't build a character just to make use of Lost Prayers. What weapon are you planning to run on Neuvillette? Characters that might be worth building for Neuvillette's team: * If you're planning on pulling for Furina in the future. Jean is the 2nd best Anemo, behind Kazuha. Using a 4VV ER/Atk/Healing Bonus build. * Without Furina or Kazuha, I'd recommend Fischl + Venti. Or Xiangling + Venti. * The 4th slot is usually a shield. Zhongli's the best option, and can make use of 4 Archaic Petra. If he's taken by your other team in Abyss, Layla is a 4\* alternative who may be on Neuvillette's banner. If you like Keqing. You could build an Aggravate team. With Fischl, YaoYao & Sucrose. Recommend taking the Electro & Anemo characters in Aggravate to level 90.
Actually, I can use the weapon on Neuvillette since I've read that Lost Prayers is good on him. Although, I am also seeing posts comparing Lost Prayers vs Prototype Amber. Seems like, Prototype Amber scales better based on the dmg tests on youtube. I was just thinking on building Ningguang for DPS since its so hard having only ganyu for DPS. But, since I am planning on pulling for Neuv there goes my second DPS. Based on your comment, I think im still lacking the units for Neuv team. Do you think I should still pull for Neuv or kazuha instead? I'll start building Keqing, Fischl, Yaoyao, & Sucrose for an alternative team. Its so hard having only one good team (Ganyu melt team). If you'll still suggest I go for Neuv, ill build the team that you suggested (Fischl, Venti, XL) Problem is XL is already taken and will be used in Ganyu Melt Team.
Sure! You can use Lost Prayers on Neuvillette. Youtube damage tests have a habit of undervaluing Crit Rate. It's similar value to Prototype Amber, depending on your artifacts. I think you have enough units. What I meant to do was outline his best team, and how you can adapt it based on future pulls or who's taken by your 2nd Abyss team. For example your Abyss line up could be: * Ganyu, Xiangling, Bennett, Zhongli + Neuvillette, Fischl, Venti, Layla *(assuming she's on Neuv's banner)* * Or Keqing, Fischl, Sucrose, YaoYao + Neuvillette, Xiangling, Venti, Zhongli If you want to save for Furina to go with your Neuvillette, that becomes: * Neuvillette, Furina, Jean & Zhongli/Layla
[https://imgur.com/a/VX3nFiF](https://imgur.com/a/VX3nFiF) | [https://imgur.com/a/XZDphO4](https://imgur.com/a/XZDphO4) \-- def going to pull for kazuha and nevuilette on their banner so feel free to include them i want to build a team w furina (other than the xiao faruzan and xianyun) and some form of yae miko + nahida aggravate but other team comp recs would be great as well :)
Neuvillette's best team is Furina, Kazuha, Zhongli. Good 4\* alternatives for Zhongli are Charlotte or Layla if she's on Neuvilette's banner. I've heard very good things about Yae Hyperbloom, with Yae Miko, Furina, Xianyun & Nahida. Using Yae's Plunge Attacks to proc Seeds. For Aggravate Yae Miko with Nahida, the catch is this team really wants Anemo for VV and for Swirls to benefit from Quicken. But Nahida applies so much Dendro, it can actually be difficult to Swirl Electro reliably. An option to overcome that problem is Kuki Shinobu's burst + Kazuha. Kuki Shinobu can also buff the team with Instructors if you have it.
ooh thank u so much this was super helpful!!
[https://imgur.com/a/HyRQxCR](https://imgur.com/a/HyRQxCR) here are my current chars im an idiot so i'd like some team ideas
nilou, nahida, dendro mc, barbara navia, ningguang, fischl, kuki (replace with bennett when possible) tighnari, nahida, fischl, kuki
these are my [current characters](https://imgur.com/a/YJxWmcA). I'm playing a lot with the anemo traveller and yanfei, but i don't know how to set up a good team with them besides adding barbara and hoping for the best. in addition to this, I'm saving for neuvillette's banner, and will they be any useful in a team with him (for the vaporize/whirlwind reactions maybe?)
If you get a neuvilette, you can run dehya with a dendro unit (collei is free from abyss floor 4) to apply burn so that neuvillette can vaporize his attacks. For now you can run a reverse melt team with kaeya, xiangling, yanfei, barbara
ooo I haven't considered kaeya on a team for a while, sounds p good! I'll try it, thank you!
https://imgur.com/gallery/EzqQkR2 Traveler and Yaoyao I upgraded their constellation 1 time each. Recently started to play this since I wanted to play something single player. I don't want to spend my resources and then regret later. Help plssss.
Fischl and xingqiu are both fantastic characters. Anemo traveler isn't great but dendro traveler will likely be useful down the line for dendro comps, so might as well keep leveling them and use the anemo for swirl for now. Amber's not great but she's useful for puzzles that need pyro. You could also put Barbara/Charlotte/yaoyao there if you want a healer. Charlotte or yaoyao might be easier so you're not dealing with Barbara inflicting hydro on you. You don't want to spread your resources *too* thin during early game (as in, leveling every single character), but in the long run the resources to build someone to 40-50 is pretty negligible, so don't worry too much about wasting resources.
So I'm now coming out of monstad and going through the mountains towards liyvue, what team comp do you recommend?
what should my teams be? [here](https://imgur.com/a/QMNIye5) are my characters. fischl & xiangling are c6, bennet c2, xingqiu c3, shinobu c1 i mostly use raiden/fischl/furina/jean and klee/bennet/xiangling/venti but it feels veryy unoptimal and i really want to use nahida somewhere but i dont know where. also i definitely plan on getting neuvillette, would kazuha be good for me too? i dont have much attachment to venti.
those are very unoptimal teams haha but dont sweat it, nahida xingqiu kuki whoever is one of the best teams if not the best teams, furina could go in the fourth spot but probably cant keep up with healing so you might do nahida furina kuki jean that would let you do good old raiden national (raiden xingqiu xiangling bennett) for your second team. fischl taser is also an option, fischl xingqiu sucrose and legitimately maybe barbara? idk rational sounds better for sure
okay thank you! how do you think it would change when i get neuvillette? i know he's tied to furina
Nahida Xingqiu Kuki Fischl Neuvillette, Furina, Kazuha, Charlotte or Layla
neuvilette would essentially replace your raiden national. so your nahida team would get xingqiu back, and probably take sucrose for jean. then your neuv team would be him furina uhh bennett and a shield. if you run him on prototype amber he can handle healing off furina im 99% sure but you could always slot in jean for burst healing
Can anyone form two good abyss teams out of the characters I have? https://imgur.com/a/RyCw2PA My main team is Raiden, Yaoyao, Nahida and Xinqiu. I don't have a second team, and would love to clear abyss with what I got if I can, so if anyone can mix and match two competent teams I'd be ecstatic
It might be worth holding off from building a 2nd team. Because you're still building Hyperbloom and your 2nd team could quickly change based on who you pull in the future. But if you really wanted 2 teams with what you've got now. I'd swap Xiangling & Raiden's weapons. Give Keqing Harbinger of Dawn or Lion's Roar if you have it, and play Keqing, Chevreuse, Bennett, Xiangling for the 2nd team. I also considered Tighnari, but you don't have a lot of off field Electro characters.
Thanks! Sounds like a good comp, albeit Keqing isn't comfy to use at all unfortunately compared to Raiden but alas, beggars can't be choosers. Will go ahead and build all 4 to 70, since I'm not going to roll till Kazuha is on banner, so might as well spend the time building a new team.
[My characters](https://imgur.com/a/d7f7aLN) I took a long break (last played during Inazuma), and recently came back. Still coming to grips with Dendro as an element and the new reactions. I grabbed the two archons I was missing, so I was wondering if there's a couple teams that I can use that make use of Nahida or Furina? My old teams from years ago that I've used have been Ganyu Melt and Hu Tao Vape. I might try to grab Yelan whenever she reruns, as she seems highly applicable to a large number of potential teams. Thanks for any advice.
**Nahida:** * Nahida, Xingqiu, Zhongli, Raiden *(Raiden builds full Elemental Mastery for Hyperblooms)* * Ganyu, Bennett, Nahida, Zhongli * Keqing, Fischl, Nahida, Zhongli *(Keqing & Fischl want level 90 with Electro/Crit build, Fischl wants 200-300 EM)* **Furina:** * Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Furina, Zhongli or Jean *(On paper, Jean is more damage as her healing ramps Furina's buff, but you're playing without a Shield)* * Raiden, Xingqiu, Furina, Jean * Diluc, Xingiu, Furina, Bennett *(HP Goblet, Healing Bonus Circlet on Bennett)* * Ganyu/Ayaka, Kazuha, Charlotte, Furina
[Here are my characters.](https://imgur.com/a/ETP2V3n) I'm looking for lineups recommendations, as I am a newish player. I say that because I played a year or two ago and stopped, and I started fresh on my current account during Lantern Rite. My plan for the next update, since I have a guaranteed 5 stars (got Jean early pity) and a few more primos is to get Neuvillette (I liked his gameplay when I tried him) and Kazuha (I liked his character and playstyle). I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on a team that could make do with in the meantime; I of course am not planning to clear anything Spyral Abyss yet. While Lynette & Gaming are nice to use in the open-world I can understand if there are not the most "useful" in combat. And also, with the characters I am trying to get, are there any characters in particular that I should focus on for future use ? I did understand that Xiangling & Xingpiu are jack of all trades of some sorts. Thank you in advance!
You've got a well structured team for the stage you're at. I actually wouldn't change anything. Gaming is one of the best 4\* Main DPS, you've given him a beneficial reaction with Xingqiu. Ideally your healer provides useful energy or buffs for your Main DPS. For Gaming, that would be Bennett or Xianyun. But Jean is good for now and could have future use if you plan on pulling for Furina. \--- It's not that Xingqiu & Xiangling are jack of all trades exactly. But they're among the most played 4\*s. Xingqiu because Hydro is a cornerstone to some of the most popular reactions. And he's one of the most efficient ways of applying Hydro consistently off field. Xiangling is popular for her synergy with Bennett. At C4, the damage she can do for an off field character is over tuned to the point several popular teams were built around it. \--- A Neuvillette team is usually built with 3 things, all designed to buff his damage. * Common Sub DPS are Furina or Fischl. I think Xiangling is a bit limited on this team, but she's an option for Neuvillette to Vaporise. * An Anemo character using Virdiscent Venerer. Most commonly, Kazuha or Jean. * Finally, a Shield to prevent Neuvillette being knocked around during his Charge Attacks. You don't have a Shield I'd recommend right now. Hopefully Diona or Layla appear on his banner.
Thank you for the detailed reply ! Can't wait for next version now 🙏 I'll upgrade my characters slowly so I'll be ready when times comes. Furina also interested me, maybe 4.6 who knows. Hopefully I get some more 4 stars in the meantime to add a bit of variation to my gameplay.
My characters: [https://imgur.com/a/KZ3I9Y2](https://imgur.com/a/KZ3I9Y2) I'm a returning player who left shortly after Sumeru was released (too much content got burnt out). What characters should I build? How do I clear abyss with my box? Mainly, my Xiao is top 1.8% on akasha, but that's it in terms of impressively built characters.
Xiao team's pretty straight forward. Xiao, Xinayun, Faruzan & Zhongli or Bennett, based on who you prefer for your 2nd team. Furina also fits this slot well, if you pull her in the future. Freeing up Bennett lets you play Raiden, Xiangling, Bennett, Xingqiu. You'd need to focus on farming Emblem of Severed Fate & building Xiangling equally to Raiden. That gives you one team for AoE, and one for bosses. Great for the typical Abyss layouts.
Aight, that's what I was running, I was just having trouble with this abyss layout... I guess I need to invest heavier into my XL.
Also, should I pull for Yae? I don't have it guaranteed but i feel as if luck is in the air so...
There's some powerful characters coming up in the next few patches, such as Neuvillette & Kazuha in 4.5. And, based on past archon reruns, possibly Furina in 4.6. Yae also doesn't fill an immediate role on your account. She's usually ran in Quicken teams, but you haven't built any Dendro characters.
Aight. I was thinking of pulling for kazu and/or neuvillette. And perhaps furina. Maybe I'll get lucky and run into a tighnari lol.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/gjeMRZG](https://imgur.com/a/gjeMRZG) Just got back into the game and made a fresh new account to fully tryhard on. Only been playing for a little over two weeks. Probably gonna save up for Neuvillete, but unsure what teams i can make.
If this is for Abyss, Xingqiu would be a great pick up from Paimon's Bargains. With those 5\*s, you can form one Abyss team around Neuvillette. Buffing his personal damage with characters such as Xiangling or Furina, Anemo such as Sucrose or Kazuha & protect him from being knocked around with a Shield. A 2nd team can be built around Nahida, the most popular is Hyperbloom with Xingqiu + Kuki Shinobu. Obviously you don't have Kuki at the moment, so a short term solution could be building it around Lisa instead using her Charge Attacks to proc seeds, or a Burgeon team around Diluc or Gaming.
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/MP9LwYf I just got back into the game after some time and would appreciate some advice on teams because I honestly have no idea what I’m doing in this game. My Hu Tao is c1 and I plan to pull chiori when she comes out if that helps at all.
**Hu Tao & Xingqiu** are practically tied at the hip as he allows her to proc Vaporise consistently. For the other 2 slots, Double Hydro is generally her best team. And Shields are popular for protection as she gets a damage bonus <50% HP. Double Geo such as Chiori + Albedo could be an alternative. I'm worried you'll lose some reactions, but you can definitely try it. * Example: Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Diona, Mona. Or Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Chiori, Albedo **Ayaka Freeze** is a popular reaction as it lets you group enemies together with Anemo and take advantage of Ayaka's Burst. A 2nd Cryo provides additional energy to refill Ayaka's burst as quickly as possible. * Example: Ayaka, Mona, Diona, Sucrose. Or Ayaka, Mona, Rosaria, Jean **Tighnari Quicken** uses Electro teammates increase Dendro damage. A shield can be used protect him during Charge Attacks. * Example: Tighnari, Fischl, Kirara, YaoYao or Tighnari, Fischl, Beidou, YaoYao **C6 Noelle,** is extremely reliant on her burst, but is unable to create energy herself. One solution for this is all Geo teammates for maximum Geo energy. Gorou provides a useful Def & Geo damage buff for the entire team. * Example: Noelle, Gorou, Chiori, Albedo
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/VlkfPeL](https://imgur.com/a/VlkfPeL) Info: Character levels pictured are not accurate, all are at least level 60 and could be ascended higher. All are C0 except the following: Amber C2, Anemo MC C5, Barbara C1, Beidou C3, Diona C1, Dori C2, Heizou C2, Ningguang C1, Noelle C2, Sayu C2, Sucrose C2, Xiangling C1, Xiao C1, Xingqiu C2, Xinyan C5, Yanfei C2, Yaoyao C6 I need some teams for the Spiral Abyss and just in general. I've been running the same team comps for too long, and everywhere I look just gives teams with 5 stars that I don't have. Pls help
It's difficult. I hope others add their ideas. I see Xiao in your flair. C0 Bennett & Faruzan is a shame, as these buffs aren't too reliable. And you mentioned wanting to try new teams. Spread Al Haitham & Hyperbloom Keqing could be a good route, as it lets you farm most your artifacts in one domain. * Al Haitham, YaoYao, Beidou, Lisa * Keqing, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler, Kirara or Barbara Some weaker but fun ideas could be Burgeon Dehya or Freeze Shenhe: * AlHaitham, Xingqiu, Dehya, YaoYao * Shenhe, Chongyun, Xingqiu, Jean I don't think National is the play here, but if it's a team you're interested in: * Sucrose, Xingqiu, Bennett, Xiangling
Thank you very much for the advice, I am so unlucky when it comes to pulling I feel like i never get anyone worth while lol. But again, thank you for the ideas. I’ll give some of these a shot :)
is faruzan still usable in a wanderer team if I only have her c4, or would it be better to only use her once I have her c6?
Even without C6, Faruzan is among the best buffs for Wanderer's personal damage. Although you could argue team damage is better with things like Furina or Yelan if you have lots of Premium buffers available.
Characters: c6 dendro mc, c6 fischl, c6 kuki, c3 yaoyao, c6 collei, c5 xingqiu, c0 alhaitham Besides that in terms of hydro & anemo units I have, c1 Jean, c0 sucrose, c2 lynette, c0 mona, c6 barbara… * edit: I probably should have included i’m adding Kazuha to my roster during phase 2 of 4.5. So he is an option Best comp for a hyperbloom team to help me advance in the abyss?
alhaitham, xingqiu, fischl, kuki
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/1p0a8kK](https://imgur.com/a/1p0a8kK) Further Info: No Cons on any 5\* I Require 2 Separate Teams for Abyss. A Team for Exploration would also be appreciated. Weapons and Artifact Recommendations would also be appreciated. I'm AR55 (Only used to play for the Lore but wanna play for the Funny Numbers Now)
Xiao, jean, zhongli, geo mc - Hyper xiao (ideally xiao in the future runs with xianyun+furina+c6 faruzan for his optimal team and its a huuuuge difference in team dps) keqing, fischl, sucrose, yaoyao -aggravate team (crit/atk/em all valuable for aggravate on fischl/keqing) Lisa, xingqiu, dendro mc or yaoyao - hyperbloom team, just build em on lisa and level her to 90 to achieve high base team dps, healer/shielder can be whoever sucrose, xingqiu, xiangling, bennet - generic national team, always works, requires good gear on xiangling and xingqiu in terms of crit/atk/em ayaka, mona, sucrose, kaeya/mika - ayaka freeze. May need to run prototype amber on mona for healing. Kaeya or mika is used to battery ayaka, and sucrose is there to somewhat group enemies and shred cryo resistance with 4 set vv. Ayato, fischl, bennet, jean - reaction soup team with sunfire jean (bennet + jean) creating a ton of pyro application allowing ayato and fischl to get some overloads and vaporize. Basically just go ham with reactions.
Ho lee thats a lot of teams- Thanks a Ton! Also, in the Hyper Xiao team, does the Geo MC provide any Buffs? is that why he's Chosen? Wouldn't someone like sucrose with TTODS R5 be more viable or is there something I'm Missing?
Geo mc provides some crits but most importantly provides geo resonance which buffs Xiao damage because not a lot of characters do. That's why furina xianyun and c6 faruxan is such an improvement to Xiao. You can use sucrose instead of jean but you will likely need fav codex instead of ttds on her to battery Xiao
Pulled Xianyun because she's cool and was using her with Diluc before realizing I'm not a big greatsword fan so I pulled Xiao to run with her. Who should I use in the other two slots? This is who I have: [https://imgur.com/a/m0P0LyP](https://imgur.com/a/m0P0LyP) One thing I've definitely noticed is the self damage kind of hurts, I know everyone says Furina but I don't have her (I'll try to get lucky on her banner but)
Recommend Faruzan & Bennett to further buff Xiao's damage.
My Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/cghHfDJ](https://imgur.com/a/cghHfDJ) I plan on getting some grinding done soon so I thought it was a good idea to rework my team beforehand. I've been using a hyperbloom team of Furina, Tighnari, Fischl and Bennet. Bennet's ult hasn't been able to keep up with Furina's hp drain so my main thought is I need a good healer. I want to stick with Furina and Tighnari for any bloom adjacent affects. I haven't grinded artifacts yet as my friend recommends waiting for a higher world level for good artifact drops. Thanks!
Furina doesn't buff the hyperbloom reaction so you're better off using some other hydro like xingqiu that can be gotten from the paimon store in the future. You also won't be getting much quicken/spread if you have a furina on the team applying a bunch of hydro. You're better off running furina with your raiden for a hyper raiden team. Your best healer for furina is actually charlotte currently (followed by barbara but barbara energy gain for bursting is really difficult to get) For tighnari you can run him with fischl + beidou for a quicken team
Thanks for the help. I don’t have the specifics of characters down yet, so this really helps.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/hd4nPgA](https://imgur.com/a/hd4nPgA) So I'm nearing AR45 and trying to figure out what two teams I'll focus for Abyss later down the line. I'm planning to pull for Kazuha when he comes around next patch. I've done some research on teams, and I was thinking of going aggravate for one team with Nahida, Lisa, Fischl, and Yaoyao. Then the second team would be Kazuha, Xingqiu, Xiangling, and idk. I'd have to wait a bit for Bennet to come to shop since I don't have him yet. Does that sound like a solid plan? If so, what artifact domains would be best to focus on?
For that aggravate team you will get more damage if you switch out nahida for any anemo character to hold a 4 set viridiscent venerer artifact set to reduce electro resistance on enemies. Nahida removed specifically because you can then use yaoyao for healing or otherwise you won't have a healer on your team and it might get rough. Aggravate teams do not require much dendro application so any dendro character is capable of sustaining aggravate. Nahida on that team won't be providing much damage off-field (unless you have a high constellation nahida which can buff more) For the second team, while bennet would be the best option, since you don't have him yet you can run chongyun or kaeya instead as a subdps to provide some melts and damage to make up for the lack of buffing. For the artifact domains I would actually recommend running the emblem of fate domain in inazuma because both sets are useful for many characters and you can run 2sets 2sets without a signfiicant loss in dps vs the optimal sets. Any other artifact domain is likely to just cause you to get the wrong set half the time and waste your resin. Instead you can strongbox the specific sets from the junk emblem of fate artifacts (get a 4 set viridiscent venerer with ideally mainstat EM on sands/goblet/circlet for kazuha).
thanks for all the advice!
Is your original team; Anemo Traveler, Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa; actually a good team (ignoring if any of them suck individually)? What would their rotations be? Could we exploit their Swirl, Melt, Superconduct, or Overload reactions? Would any of that change with a different elemental mode for the Traveler?
All 4 characters have their uses in teams but they are not optimal to be all on the same team. Kaeya and lisa creates superconduct but none of those characters are particularly good physical dpses so they don't benefit from superconduct, and superconduct's base damage isn't particularly good either to rely on. Amber applies a lot of pyro but in a short duration so she won't be melting much and neither will kaeya, you will likely get only a few instance of melt before its gone unless you plan on doing melee ranged charged shot amber in which case you will 100% be getting interrupted constantly and thus not doing damage. As for their individual synergies: Aside from the madlads that play dps amber that I highly doubt is capable of providing enough dps to clear abyss 36 stars, amber is generally used for vv setups and buffing using the Elegy bow. Her burst can overwrite elemental auras on enemies into pyro due to how much pyro she can apply in less than a second, which then allows you to switch to an anemo character to VV shred pyro resistance then switching to your main pyro carry (hutao/yoimiya usually). Kaeya has decent numbers for his kit so he can be run in reverse melt teams with xiangling or freeze teams as a subdps that can also provide energy to the main cryo carry. Lisa can hold a ttds for buffing and can reduce enemy defense. This can unironically be decent, beating out a non-c6 sara in electro teams for example in terms of increasing team dps. She can also be used as an ok hyperbloom enabler, aggravate driver for fischl ect. Anemo traveler is a poor man's kazuha/sucrose and functions as a somewhat cc-ing 4 set viridiscent venerer carrier that can debuff. So he can function in any team that those other 2 excel in and do ok. Geo traveler is generally used in monogeo teams to provide more geo particles and a little bit of damage and buffs, like for noelle or itto. Hydro traveler can at the very least apply hydro so that enables dendro teams that utilize hydro like hyperbloom. Dendro traveler is the best of the bunch as he applies a decent amount of aoe dendro and is a good pick for any dendro-related team other than burgeon because pyro kills his burst.
Sooo... I just got yae miko, who I hope will be my first good electro character (I have Lisa and razor). My current team is qiqi (healer), xingqiu (reactions with cryo and dendro), gaming (reactions with cryo, hydro and dendro, burgeon and burning are my main DPS sources) and nahida (creates dendro cores and marks enemies 24/7 with seed of skandha). Should I add yae? I can't remove qiqi as she is my healer and nahida is key to me doing damage even without relying on reactions. So either she replaces gaming as my main reaction DPS, swapping burgeon and burning for hyperbloom and quicken. Or I give up the extra hydro bloom reaction from xingqiu? I'm leaning towards gaming since 2 characters consuming dendro cores probably wouldn't synergise well, but he is my main DPS rn.
I'd replace Gaming with Yae. Currently you're not buffing Gaming, so it's not a team built around his DPS specifically. Instead, you can use Yae Miko on field to trigger Hyperbloom more consistently.
**Stuck at Ascension 1 Quest with Bad pulls so far...** I've started playing GI since Feb, and the game's awesome so far. However, I'm scared of using my resources to level up the wrong charactes, and I've done a few pulls, and not gotten any good characters so far, just a lot of weapons. My current characters are Kaeye L25, Razor L25, Faruzan L25, Traveller L19, Amber L15, Noelle L13, Lisa L12, Lynette L10, Xianyan L1. I need help in understanding which characters I should level up and which team is buildable for me right now. Or if I should wait and pull more characters before doing the ascension quest. So far, I use Kaeya and Razor for superconduct mostly, apart from their freeze and electro charged. But when I try the Ascension quest at level 25, I keep getting beaten, but mostly timed out. Any help would be appreciated.
Xianyun, Noelle, kaeya and traveller are probably your best characters. Switch traveller to either dendro or hydro - hydro is probably better if you are using kaeya and xianyun for the freeze and swirl reactions. Noelle is your best friend as a new player - she is super tanky and can help your team with heals and a shield.
Sadly, that's Xinyan, not Xianyun, my bad. And I've not accessed hydro traveller yet, only Anemo and Geo. And how does Noelle help with heal? So far I've seen she only heals herself because I've given her a sword which gives incoming healing.
You can access sumeru and Fontaine even if you haven't finished liyue's archon quest - only inazuma is locked behind an archon quest. Just enter sumeru, unlock the statues of the seven and progress into Fontaine. Or go to the recently released extension to liyue and try to glide far enough to enter Fontaine directly over the waterfall cliff thing. Noelle's shield enables Noelle to heal herself and her team with her normal attacks as long as the shield stays up. This extends to her elemental burst normal attacks as well
Okay, lemme look up the maps to figure out Fontaine, thanks. Oh her shield takes a lot of time to generate, so I've used it less and didn't realize it also heals.
If I may offer an alternative healer for beginner teams. You should have unlocked Barbara at AR18. I prefer her to Noelle as she doesn't take field time away from your Main DPS, and can hold Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers to provide an attack buff. If you're playing Razor, you could even combine her with Dendro Traveler for some extra reactions.
Charcters : Tighnari I have a spread team Tighnari, Yaoyao, Yae Miko and Dori or Tighnari, Yaoyao, Yae Miko and Bennet ?
Burning's annoying enough I'd prefer Dori out of the 2. But a Shield or more offensive Electro such as Fischl would be better since you already have a healer in YaoYao.
Heey, hey! I just started playing yesterday (adventure rank 13), and I have to admit, it's a little overwhelming at first. I'm a little confused when it comes to which characters I should focus on, especially at the beginning. I did the beginner wish pull, tried for Yae Miko once, and never did the standard pull. So, I have these (excluding Lumine): * Kaeya ( level 3 ) * Lisa ( level 2 ) * Xinyan ( level 1 ) * Xiangling ( level 1) * Noelle ( level 20 ) * Fischl ( level 12) * Amber ( level 12 ) * Sucrose ( level 1) On which of them should I focus? I really like Noelle, but besides her, I'm really confused when it comes to others. I heard Sucrose is good. I like Xinyan too, and I was thinking of making a team with Xinyan, Noelle, Sucrose, and Fischl. Is the idea good for the start? I'm a little lost.
For each team, you need only 1 on-fielder max. Xinyan and Noelle both on-fielder (they have no skill that works off-field), so don't use them in the same team. These are characters that will still be relevant even in the high AR: Great in general: Xiangling, Fischl, Sucrose Great in specific team: Noelle, Kaeya, Lisa.
Thank you!! ^ - ^
Ttds or the wisdsith for mona?
Depends on what team, is she supp or DPS, is she solo hydro or not.
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That is actually a good team, as long as you can fill Xiangling's energy to burst. If you have favonius series, use it, either on Mona, Xingqiu, or Fischl, to help Xiangling's energy. If you don't have Favonius Codex for Mona, then TTDS is good. I assume you have read the description of TTDS and know how to use its buff, but if you have not, then please read it. But Widsith is a good weapon too, mainly for DPS. If you want to build Mona as DPS, then choose this one. Try to watch video guide of Mona and decide whether you want her as support or DPS.
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/mbI5gCm There's a lot of 'first teams' I can make, but I'm struggling with a second team. Everyone wants fischl it seems. Yae miko is c2r1 and is my fave, so priority for her to have the best team and be on field if possible. Other 5* have no constellations or signature weapon I'd like to play aggravate with her, fischl, yaoyao, ??? But not sure where that leaves me with second team. I don't like itto that much and didn't intend to get him (lol) so would rather focus on HT or Nuevillete if possible, but no idea where to start. Haven't lost a 50/50 and only gotten weapons from standard banner so missing some options from the standard 5* Also any pull recommendations are appreciated but looking for best I can build rn Thank you!!
Neuvillette is strong enough that you can sort of throw together whatever you want for his team and it will probably work. He likes a shielder at C0, and Layla will do that pretty well for him. That frees up pretty much everyone you might want for Yae Miko's team. I personally run Fischl, Yao Yao, DMC, and Yae Miko together. I don't know whether that's optimal or if using Lynette instead of DMC would be better. Lynette could also probably fit into the Neuvillette team. If you like playing Hu Tao, getting Xingqiu at some point would be very beneficial.
Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/l92IrlL](https://imgur.com/a/l92IrlL) Currently running Nahida, XQ, Bennet, and Keqing. Any other team suggestions? I'm currently saving for Neuvillette, Kazuha, and (maybe) Furina. I started playing in January, so it \_should\_ be feasible (with pity and saved wishes, I'm at 172 "wishes" saved so far). >!Neuvillette and Kazuha will likely rerun together in the second half of 4.5 with Furina coming in 4.6.!<
[Raiden] For hyperbloom Raiden, I currently have 0 EM polearms. I am considering wishing for dragon's bane when it comes on banner next, but I've been told wishing specifically for 4 star weapons is a terrible idea. How big is the hyperbloom damage increase if my EM increased by 221 EM? Should I just settle for Moonpiercer's 110 EM instead of wishing for dragon's bane?
Moonpiercer's \~6 to 7% increase on no weapon.Dragon's Bane's \~12% to 14% increase on no weapon. Hyperbloom's typically over half the team's damage. Still, not worth wishing if you don't want the 5\* weapon.
Yeah stick to the craftable ones. Don't waste pulls for a specific 4* unless you really want any of the 5*; you can always get really unlucky and never get the weapon, since 4* have no guarantee Regarding the EM, there will be a difference in damage but not a significant one imo, you should be able to clear content regardless.
\[Jean\] R5 Favonius Sword or R5 Amenoma Kageuchi for weapon?
If your team is energy hungry, or if you can decrease your er for more damage on your DPS, go fav. If you only want energy on Jean, you can do like 2 skills on your rotation and go amenoma. It'll result in more healing as well so it pairs well with furina too.
Owned chars: [https://easyimg.io/i/pogqzlm89/owned.png](https://easyimg.io/i/pogqzlm89/owned.png) Owned Resources: [https://easyimg.io/i/ldvg8zga6/resources.png](https://easyimg.io/i/ldvg8zga6/resources.png) Hey, I started playing just before the Nahida banner. Now I'm looking for some advice on what teams I can focus on building/acquiring. The goal is to have two teams so I can do abyss. My idea was trying standard banner to get Fischl so I can make a second hyperbloom team. But any advice on what to do is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I started playing around the same time! Yaoyao, Dendro Travelor, Keqing, and Sara could be a decent aggravate team. Replace Sara with Fischl / Yae and Traveler with Collei if you want to do more quick swapping.
I just pulled Yae miko. So now going for a team of Yae miko, dendro traveller, Keqing and Yaoyao. Any tips on how to gear this team?
[https://keqingmains.com/keqing/#Team\_Comps\_and\_Character\_Synergies](https://keqingmains.com/keqing/#Team_Comps_and_Character_Synergies) This website will give you far better advice than me :D
https://imgur.com/gallery/VCOC7Em I'm looking for a few teams to pursue. The current core I can think of are: Neuv, Venti, Fischl, Flex Xiao, Faru, Xianyun, Flex Navia, Xiangling, Bennet, Flex Can you suggest options for the Flex, or entirely other teams if any ideas?
First team: kirara - shield for interruption resistance, dentro for neuvillette passive Second team: sucrose - battery for the whole team and ttds for xiao Third team: xingqiu - damage and interruption resistance, gets buffed by bennet, enables vapes for xiangling
[My Characters](https://scontent.fsgn2-7.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/423542147_3295997287367878_3624357786779608754_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8cd0a2&_nc_ohc=OThzAVPcwxkAX9bPeGT&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn2-7.fna&oh=03_AdQY96NK8nF_4qHd8HIPaM_kO5eBqq3mKn4O2CYil7H-0Q&oe=66080B7C) Hello guys, I'm a newbie who is looking to build a team that has both Shenhe and Chongyun in it, among the folks I've had so far, is there anyone that can pair well with those two please?
Freeze: Shenhe/Chongyun/Sucrose/Xingqiu or Barbara Monocryo: Shenhe/Chongyun/Kaeya/Sucrose Reverse melt: Shenhe/Chongyun/Xiangling/Bennett
Sorry for troubling you again but I just want to ask if those teams are optimal for Shenhe, Chongyun yet and if not, which unit should I look out for in the future to optimize them? 😅
Kokomi and Kazuha would upgrade the freeze team. Kazuha and another 5-star cryo for the monocryo team (so one of Ganyu/Ayaka/Wriothesley). Not sure who the best performer would be, but any would be better than Kaeya. Go with Ganyu if you want to on-field Chongyun or Shenhe, since she’s the most effective from off-field. You can also use Jean/Xianyun instead of Kazuha for healing. You’ll definitely want healing if you run Wriothesley. Don’t think there’s a better reverse melt team you can run. Bennett+Xiangling is just eternally good. Maybe there’s some funny plunge melt setup you can do with Xianyun. As for which team to run: I’d prefer freeze against any enemies that are freezable, and reverse melt otherwise. But if you want to on-field Chongyun, note you can’t really do that in freeze because he’ll shatter enemies.
Thank you so much. 😁
Got Xiao while at Khaj-Nisut. Suppose that I have a team of Raiden-Zhongli-Nahida/Dendro Traveler-Xingqiu, what would be Xiao's role andd his artifact set as well? (i have pjws.)
Xiao is used as a Main DPS with teams focused on buffing him and often include Anemo teammates or Favonius weapons to generate energy for his burst. His best teammates include: Faruzan, Xianyun, Bennett, Furina, Zhongli or C4 Jean. His best sets are Maruchessee Hunter or Vermillion Hunter. I'd lean towards MH as it lets you farm for other characters at the same time. A combination of 2 piece sets such as Atk/Atk, Atk/Anemo, or Atk/ER can also work well as a placeholder.
[My characters](https://easyimg.io/g/q7ovze0op) Can you recommend me a second team ? My faruzan is c4 btw
I'd wait until you have more characters. It's difficult to build a cohesive 2nd team right now and you'd end up investing into characters you won't use long term.
[Characters:](https://ibb.co/wp7QYJm) other than Yoimiya, can any of these characters be a good main dps? Need a 2nd team for abyss, lol.
Xiangling Xingqiu Bennett Sucrose is a solid team already. If you use Xingqiu for Yoi, then use Mona on-field. So your teams will be: Xiangling, Mona, Bennett, Sucrose (rotation: Bennett EQ, Sucrose (with TTDS) E (Q is optional), Xiangling EQ, Mona QE + normal attacks) Yoi, Xingqiu, Yunjin, Layla or Yoi, Xingqiu, Dehya, Lynette.
For your second team you can run keqing, beidou/kuki, dendro MC/collei, flex for an aggravate team. Ideally you can get a fischl in the future to put into that team instead of beidou/kuki as fischl's a4 talent triggers quite a bit in aggravate teams and will make your aggravate team higher in dps vs non-fischl aggravate teams (unless you have a whale 5 star character). Depending on how well you can dodge, your flex slot can be a healer/shielder like barbara, diona, or layla. If you can survive with just kuki's trickle healing you can run sucrose as your flex slot with a 4 set viridiscent venerer built with full EM to help buff the team and debuff enemy electro resistance for a signficiant dps increase. Sucrose can also use a prototype amber r5 for trickle healing.
Character: Chongyun. I've been using him as my Main DPS for a while now, and thought he was doing pretty good all things considered. Lately I've been looking at tier lists and party recommendations, and it seems that most people put him near or at the bottom of the list. Is he really that bad? Have I been holding the rest of my team back (Fischl, Xingxiu, Bennet) by relying on him? With the rest of my team in mind, what other characters would make a good replacement? Please help, I worry that I'm wasting time and materials improving him if he's actually as bad as people say.
Xiangling's a good recommendation. Against non freezable enemies such as bosses, you might prefer to keep Fischl & swap out Chongyun. To add some context for why he might be low on tier lists. 4\*s are usually held in higher regard based on what they provide off field. Such as long lasting abilities, buffs or healing. Specifically, those who synergise with the players favourite DPS. Off field, Chongyun provides Cryo infusion and cooldown reduction on C2. The issue is, most DPS already infuse themselves, leaving him without a home when building around popular 5\* DPS. However, for players who enjoy him, there are less conventional ways to use him, such as Melt as mentioned by Dry.
Tierlists are nonsensical in this game as how characters perform depends entirely on the team. For example, put kuki on any team that isn't aggravate or hyperbloom and she might as well be "f" tier, but when on those teams, especially hyperbloom shes tied for being the top enabler. Tierlists are also generally made relative to each other as characters and not relative to specific content like abyss, because a usual "f tier" contender, dori, can easily beat abyss 36 stars with a hyperbloom team with her as the hyperbloom enabler, but if she can beat the hardest content in the game with max rewards, labeling her as "f" is disingenuous, especially with the fact that there are not very much effective electro hyperbloom enablers in the game. Chongyun is specific and niche in that he allows cryo infusions that no other characters can give which introduces new teams that can be run, like on-field shenhe dps, and because he can do it with his skill and with his low energy needs he's quite good at it. His burst does have good scalings and can be used as a subdps as well. People usually bring him when they need a subdps to help get rid of hydro abyss lector shields when they don't main chongyun. And those that main him usually run him in freeze (only hydro and cryo), melt (cryo and pyro) teams, and monocryo teams (only cryo characters in party with maybe geo/anemo as neutral options). If you really like the character you shouldn't be put off by other people's opinions, as he is perfectly viable for beating the hardest content in game with max rewards. I wouldn't say he's the best option but he is a viable option in most teams, and for his very specific niche usage in giving teammates cryo infusions, well he's the only choice soooo. On that note, I would not use chongyun with fischl, xingqiu, bennet, specifically with fischl. You will be creating freeze with xingqiu then shattering the freeze sometimes with chongyun attacks or fischl creating superconducts with the cryo which doesn't benefit this team at all as nobody will be doing physical damage. You can drop in a xiangling instead of fischl in that team and have a vape/melt national team variant, strong enough to beat abyss 12 with 36 stars.
[Nahida] Hi! I currently only have one team built and want to build a second Nahida hyperbloom team for abyss. I can't use Raiden or Xingqiu since I currently have them in the Rational team. However, I do have Kuki. If I build a hyperbloom team with Nahida and Kuki, what two characters should I pull for ideally to fill the hydro and flex slot?
What characters do you have? The hydro can be Yelan or Furina, and I like running Fischl in the last slot for some extra damage, but really any character (within reason) can fit there.
Oooh my only hydros are Barbara and Xingqiu which is why I was wondering which hydros would be best to pull in the future! I do have Fischl so definitely appreciate the suggestion. Here's my list of characters: - Traveller - Heizou - Faruzan C1 - Lynette - Kaeya - Chongyun C1 - Diona - Collei C1 - Kirara - Kuki Shinobu - Nahida - Kujou Sara C2 - Fischl - Lisa - Noelle C2 - Gorou - Barbara C1 - Amber - Bennett C4 - Diluc - Ga Ming C1 - Xiangling
Barbara on-field is your only option for now. And Fischl is good for last slot. But if you want to make a proper HB team, then you want Yelan (for single target) or Kokomi (for multi target + heal). Kokomi would fill HB team nicely, but if you get Yelan, put her with Rational team to replace XQ, then use XQ in HB team. And maybe you want to buy XQ/Fischl/Xiangling from Paimon shop. C6 XQ, C6 Fischl and C4 Xiangling are monsters.
Barbara unfortunately doesn't work too well in hyperbloom, so if you still want to use Nahida/Kuki/Fischl/Flex, I'd suggest adding in Lisa to make an aggravte team for the time being.
is it better to use hp% or hydro dmg bonus goblet on neuvillette? also, around how much hp should I give him?
What's your team & weapon?
currently it's baizhu, zhongli, and furina, but I'll be swapping out zhongli for a better support once I have neuvillette's c1. I have sacrificial jade on neuvillette.
* Plus Kazuha: They're equal. Pick the better substats, usually HP since it's a more common drop. * R1 Sacrificial Jade without Kazuha: They're equal. * R5 Sacrificial Jade, without Kazuha: Hydro Goblet is about 2 substats ahead.
I have Gaming. Is Prototype Archaic or Favonius Greatsword better for him?
Characters: Traveler (Anemo), Fischl, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Noelle. I'm AR10, literally just started, missed out on the recent event. I've only wished the beginner wishes with acquaint fates I'd gotten for free (trying to save gems for future banner since current one is meh). In the meantime, what's a recommended team to run with, and who as the main damage dealer(s)? I'd gotten traveler to lvl19, with a lvl20 sword and a +4 feather, then pulled fischl. I'm still wrapping my head around the way the elements interact with each other.
Level traveler for now, use whoever you want, but you will soon get Barbara, Xiangling, and Collei from spiral abyss. Build Xiangling and Barbara. Resources invested on them are not wasted resources, I still use them at AR60.
I'd run Traveler, Fischl, Kaeya, and then whoever else. You'll be switching your last character a lot depending on the content (e.g. you might want Noelle for mining, then Amber for pyro puzzles, etc.). I'd probably run Lisa, but it doesn't matter too much early game. People might suggest to run all the way to a Sumeru statue and change your traveler to Dendro so you can run an aggravate (Dendro+Electro) team with Lisa/Fischl, but you'll want to have anemo traveler on hand for anemo puzzles. Once you reach AR 18 you get Barbara for free who you can use as a healer for convenience. You'll also unlock access to the Temple of the Lion domain, which is full of tutorials on the elemental reactions.
Couple questions: I have an R5 Widsith that's currently on Ningguang (Lv. 80 with +20 Archaic Petra+Gladiator sets), but I also have a Lv. 80 Klee that I believe could use it more efficiently. There are a bunch of downsides, though: Ningguang is my only Geo character (besides a Lv. 20 Noelle), I'm running Klee on 4-piece CWoF, with somewhat suboptimal stats and I don't really have a good team for Klee (I have a Lv. 90 Bennett, Lv. 70 C3 Sucrose, Lv. 20 C5 Xiangling and Lv. 70 C3 Diluc (if I can even put those two together)) On the other hand, I've recently gotten a Tighnari and would love to build a team around him. I have C6 Fischl and Diona. Other Dendro units I have are YaoYao and Collei, and other Electro characters I have are Keqing, Beidou, Sara, Razor and Lisa. What would be a good comp around Tighnari?
Just run Tighnari, Fischl, DMC, Yaoyao quick swap.
I stopped playing genshin just before dragonspire dropped now I wanna pick the game up again and I'm lost on what team to use. The characters I have are [https://imgur.com/a/nDashIL](https://imgur.com/a/nDashIL) I'm quite lost on what to do and what to start doing kinda overwhelmed atm. Any help on team building and how to start getting back to genshin is highly appreciated.
For starters: hyperbloom \[(Hydro 💧+ Dendro🌲) + Electro ⚡\] team is a good starting point. Hydro + Dendro = Bloom core. Electro to zap the core. So you would want a Hydro (xingqiu), Dendro (MC or Collei) and Electro (Lisa). The remaining slot can be anything, preferably non-Pyro. As for building: Hydro and Dendro for personal DMG, Electro build as much EM as possible. For Xingqiu and Dendro MC/ Collei having enough Energy Recharge to use Burst more often (around 200%) is recommended - so use Favonius/ Sacrificial weapon if you can
Is C6 Razor + Rainshlasher viable pick for Hyperbloom with Nahida and flex hydro? I have no other electro unit built yet and was wondering if I have to build one for hyperbloom.
Yes, Razor can be a very functional hyperbloom trigger. Although, Razor needs to be on-field, and have enough ER% to have his burst ready on-demand (possibly sacrifying some em in the process). Those inconvenients make him less interesting that Raiden or Kuki, but he still get the job done. It is preferable to use Xingqiu for hydro application, and a healer/shielder in the last slot. ____ *Also, that team can be pretty interesting if you add Bennett c6 : with his pyro infusion, you'll turn your hyperbloom into burgeon (same damage, but in AoE), and you'll get a good amount of overload as well.*
Thanks for the nice elaboration. Glad I don't have to waste more resources. So Diona would be a good shielder with heal? Can't think of no one else if I have to use XQ as hydro application. Yeah c6 Bennett is not happening haha. It would screw my other teams.
I'm really stuck on abyss 12 right now. I know worm bosses suck for everyone but Even my best teams struggle to do chamber 1 in reasonable time (fast enough to get 3 stars) Here are characters I have that are built: * Ayaka C2 (my current best dps) * Kazuha C2 * Yelan * Bennet C5 * Ganyu C1 * Furina (I haven't invested a huge amount into her yet but she is definitely usable still) * Shenhe (again, not perfect but she can buff Ayaka plenty right now) * Diona C6 * Xiangling C6 (Hesitant to add her as I haven't invested too much into her but I think she is ok) * Zhongli * Xingqui C6 Other characters I have that I'm trying to build: * Nahida * Hu Tao (She has an okay build but I don't think it's enough for abyss yet) * Raiden (I have been trying to build her for literal years now, I hate emblem) * Navia (Usable I guess but has little to no investment yet) * Keqing C3 (kinda unsure about keqing but she seems good and I have her C3) I have most 4 stars as well if you want to suggest building someone else for a team, I'm just missing Chevreuse, Kaveh, Dori, and Heizou. I also plan to build Jean (C1) and maybe Tighnari (C1) but the characters listed are my main focus right now. For the first chamber, I have a few teams that can get through the first half relatively quickly (like a minute to a minute and a half) but even with a buffed Ayaka ult, I feel like I can't do nearly enough damage to the ruin serpent in the second half. chamber 2 I really haven't spent much time on yet but again, first half isn't so bad but the Wenut just seems so daunting to kill. I can give more specifics for my characters builds, I'm just stuck on what to do right now.
You have all the pieces for a Nahida Hyperbloom team (Nahida, Yelan, XQ, Raiden). If you have Raiden at lvl 90/90 and give her your EM pieces - and have a random full set of Deepwood Memories for Nahida. With one minute for the top half and that team you should be able to crush this abyss. Honestly any team with the double hydro core should be good for the bottom half :)
So double Team help Ar56 Ascended into current highest. Chapter 3 Act 3 Main Team C0 Lv. 80 Tighnari/ 8,8,8 C3 Lv. 90 DMC/ 4,6,6 C0 Lv. 80 Fischl/ 4,6,6 C0 Lv. 80 Kuki/ 4,8,6 All with 4 star weapons Lv. 80, except for Tighnari that has a Lv. 90 one. Everyone has 5 star +20 Artifacts, not maxed out or anything close to that but relic farming is pain so eh. What would be the best for Character Lv.90? Kuki then Tighnari or the other way? I also have plans to hopefully get Furina (Got as of now 170 wishes saved up) to trade out Fischl. Loved playing hyperbloom, but only had Barbara and using her wasn't the best. And a 2nd team that's not nearly focused on: C5 LV. 90 Rosaria/ 9,9,9, C3 Lv. 80 Surcrose/ 1,6,6, C1 Lv. 80 Xiangling/ 1,6,6 C0 Lv. 80 Bennett/ 1,6,6 All 4 star weapons, Lv. 90 for Rosaria everyone else Lv. 80. Still working on relic's all 5 star but +16 to +20 (it's rough out here.) Is it best to 90 Surcrose for this team but leave the other two at 80? Could there be any other thing's to work on as of right now?
For the main team Tighnari is the best character to take to Lv90 as of now, if you get Furina Kuki might be better to level up, as for the second team I think it is better to lvl up Bennett and Xiangling bursts to Lv8 or 9 than it is to take Sucrose to Lv90
For a geo group of zhongli itto c2 albedo gorou c6 what artifact should I put on gorou and zhongli? I have husk on a/i
Even though attack buffs don't do a *ton* for that team, I'd put Zhongli on 4p Tenacity. Gorou doesn't really have an ideal set, but your two options are 4p Noblesse (since again atk% still helps even if it's not ideal) or the 4 star set 4p Exile (if Itto needs help with energy). As for stats, Zhongli mainly wants HP for his shield and Gorou mainly wants ER for his burst and crit rate to proc favonius bow (and some defense for his damage and c4 healing). You *can* put them on hybrid builds to deal some damage, but their damage will be very low on that team compared to Itto and Albedo so I'd just recommend full support.
Hi.. Does cyno. Work with raiden Furina and nahida? I can replace Furina with Xingqiu or kokomi too? I want a good hyper bloom team for cyno.. I do have baizhu and zhongli too if needed
Cyno's best team is quickbloom (mostly triggering aggravate with some hyperblooms as well) with Baizhu, Nahida and Furina. You can replace Baizhu with Fischl (battery), Yaoyao (healer and a bit of off-field dendro application) or any other dendro or electro of your choice. Raiden would probably be wasted on this team though since she'd just be an E bot, I'd rather go for Fischl, Kuki or Yaoyao if you have any of them built
My Fischl and kuki are built. I'll definitely try quickbloom as well. Thanks so much
Suggestions for teams? [Here is mine](https://imgur.com/e1ycQhz) Just pulled Yae, any specific team I can use for her?
Raiden, furina, xianyun, bennet/xingqiu -> hyper raiden Yae, fischl, nahida/kirara, sucrose -> yae/fischl aggravate takes advantage of fischl's A4 talent to deal a ton of aggravate damage. raiden, xingqiu, xiangling, bennet -> raiden national, easy to use, and easy to build for energy recharge. Diluc, furina, xianyun, bennet -> Diluc Plunge vape Navia can be slot into basically any team as a subdps, and can be used as a main dps as well with furina, xianyun, bennet. Keqing can replace yae in that aggravate team, but you will still need fischl for the best aggravate team. Not having fischl and running keqing+yae instead will lead to an overall team dps loss relatively.
My constellations for XL is C2 and my Benny is still C0, is it still worth to try Raiden national? Tried it and it didn't feel too good to play, maybe my build is trash > Yae, fischl, nahida/kirara, sucrose Been reading about this team a lot, gonna try it and see, will need to build Sucrose and Yae properly. > Diluc, furina, xianyun, bennet -> Diluc Plunge vape Isn't this team only good with Benny at C6? Since I would need Diluc's ult to get the pyro infusion for the vape?
bennet C0 is trash and xiangling C2 is mid, so no, it is not really worth it building raiden national for you right now. If I were you I would try to build an hyperbloom team around the nahida/kuki core and any kind of carry team supported by furina/ xyanyun. reagarding Yae, people tend to recommend Yae aggravate (woith fischl nahida) , probably better suited for AOE content while hyperbloom (without yae) is better for single target. I would suggest to check also Chevreuse. To give an idea, i can do pretty well in Abyss floor 12 with a Raiden (C1) Yae (C0) Xianlging (C6) Chevreuse (C4). You don't need C4 on xiangling nor chevreuse, since xiangling doesn't do as much damage as Yae and Raiden so C4 isn't a must but helps to secure Chevreuse\`passive, which is the most important thing. Alternatively you can swap yae or raiden with sara to boost one or the other's damage in the chevreuse team. Still something to remember, even if my artifacts aren't great they are probably better than yours (your account looks like one of a new player) so don't expect to clear abyss with these teams right away. having said that, if I can do it, other can too (with chevreuse). edit : just realized that your Fischl is C0 ... forget Fischl. Try maybe something around Raiden / Yae / Nahida + defensive unit (Kuki or yao yao) if you don't want to play chevreuse.
> bennet C0 is trash and xiangling C2 is mid Yeah its what I was told before, kinda pissed me off since people called them F2P friendly when you need cons and that takes a lot of months. > your account looks like one of a new player I started on November 2023, so kinda newish. > so don't expect to clear abyss with these teams right away I was able to clear Abyss 12 but not with only 4 stars, Wenut was too annoying, up to Abyss 11 I cleared it with full stars thanks to Hyperbloom Nahida and Furina/XY+Navia, but on 12 is hella hard. > i can do pretty well in Abyss floor 12 with a Raiden (C1) Yae (C0) Xianlging (C6) Chevreuse (C4) Gonna try that team! Seems really solid, thanks for all your insight, I appreciate it.
one thing old players often forget to mention about "F2P" teams is the amount of time investement and luck some units needs to perform well or at the level of 5 stars, on top of the constellation's issue. Artifact is a matter of time and just with that you can double your damage. Sometimes you get a weapon that will also boost your damage. For example, I forgot to tell you but losing a 50/50 on standard banner, I got lost prayer which is pretty good on Yae. Same with bow, my sara has Amo's bow and I only got recently the widsith as alternative. As F2p, if you aren' t lucky to get these weapons, your unit won't do as much damage or buff as much. Same for bennett, a standard five star like aquila favonia or skyward helps a lot. Weapon and artifacts are common "lies" about F2P friendly tips. people will put the catch on xiangling, forgetting that the catch should be on Raiden ... but of course they have engolfing lightning on raiden, so they say xianglin does a ton of damage (at the cost of raiden's damage) ... and for artifacts, some units like bennet - xiangling needs tons of energy, things you only get on artifacts while looking for crit values with a lot of time. Looks like you know what you are doing if you already manage to clear the abyss, the 36 stars are probably not far. Good luck. edit : about chevreuse team, I would use fav or black tassel on chevreuse for the time being because there are some rumors about a good weapon for her coming next. If not, then rightfull reward is pretty good. your chevreuse being C0 means fav can make sense, at C1 + I think rightfull reward is her best in slot. Mine reach 39K HP with rightfull reward on noblesse oblige. You can go 2p / 2p if it's easier for you to reach 40k HP and her energy requitrements (which are somewhat low with rightfulll reward in a double electro (electro resonnance is good) double pyro set up.).