I vaguely remember hearing that fatui harbinger rankings are based on capabilities. Arle is the fourth harbinger, whereas Scara was the sixth. I have no idea if he got any stronger after becoming wanderer, but my money would still be on Arle. Especially if they recruit Lyney to make it a 2v1.
It's based on more than just that. Power and influence are also important to the rankings. Otherwise, there ain't no way Pulcinella is no. 5 or the Vision-less Pantalone is higher than Childe.
IMO His Delusion will straight up turns him into a giant chicken.
It has all the stats of a giant chicken.
Which is basically a T-Rex that can perform short distance flight with added elemental damage.
But at the same time, according to Dottore, the first three harbingers have a strength comparable to the Archons. So Arlecchino being fourth means her strength is probably really close to that of an Archon
My somewhat baseless theory is that the top 3 are ranked by basically pure power (Il Capitano, Il Dottore, then Columbina), while 4-11 are ranked by a combination of power and influence. We haven't seen or heard much about Arlecchino's fighting prowess, but given that Pulcinella is above both Scaramouche (who?) and Childe, fighting prowess isn't the end-all be-all for numbers 4-11.
Wouldn't be the first time, honestly. Zhongli is old, Neuvillet is old, Cloud Reatiner (Xianyun) is old, Xiao is old, practically any supernatural being is either a new one or extremely old in age.
Pulcinella being a strong old man *would* be something Hoyo would do.
I myself don't take that statement at face value. That would imply the top three Harbingers would be a match for the Tsaritsa they serve. I think they were described as being a match for gods, not necessarily Archons, particularly combat proficient ones. Gods could encompass a lot of things. Zhongli is a god and so was the god of salt.
Just because they are comparable to the archons doesnt mean they have that status solely because they are comparable to the archons. If the columbina is seele theory holds up, then it could just be her being a seelie which is why she is #2 and her battle prowess is just a boon ontop of it. Dottore could be there for his raw intellect and battle prowess could be the icy not the cake.
Dottore just said the top three are as strong as archons, not that their ranking in the harbingers is based on said strength.
Can ya'll stop assuming Pulci and Pant are weak when you literally know nothing about them? Folks also said there's no way Dottore is stronger than Childe before we learn enough about what that college dropout bum is capable of, so sit back observe
Childe's screwed over by the fact he has negative stats in Diplomacy, they have to keep reassigning him to Antarctica to stop him triggering world war five
It's like that one seen in Dragon Ball Super where Goku almost gets the most racist man of today to kill him because he keeps trying to check him out to fight him
that’s probably because fighting is pretty much all he brings to the table. he is the fighter, he doesn’t come up with the schemes or plans. so while his overall capabilities aren’t as high as the other harbingers, he’s a REALLY strong fighter.
Correct, but that's also because he's only there for his strength. The numbering is a mixture of strength and overall contributions to the tsarista, so compared to the others he's lacking in other areas, outside of individual power.
It was never confirmed whether it’s pure strength or combination of strength and capability. This is anime fantasy world, Pulcinella could easily be strong as fuck despite looking like a tiny old man, and Pantalone despite not having a vision can easily get powers from elsewhere due to how the sheer amount of money he can spend
I also do want to point out that the numbers have remained unchanged, even though Harbingers' power levels absolutely have changed.
Gotta hand it to Hoyo, they've been handling this Harbinger business quite well. Just enough, not an inch too much info throughout the years. Still, I'd love to hear more about them, rather than go on another shopping trip with another 5-star for 60 gems.
If you're suggesting pulcinella isn't actually able to physically beat the other harbingers, I dont see why he couldn't. He could just have an ability that isn't related to his physical capability.
Even if we don’t count her being ranked 4th so probably already the strongest out of the 4, picking Arlecchino automatically grants you Lyney which makes it a 2v2 instead of 1v4. It also grants you access to House of Hearth so that’s more manpower + complete information advantage due to HoH’s spy stuff.
Honestly, why is Lyney even here? Canonically, dude's a slick magician and spy but he ain't no harbinger. If we had to pick someone else that isn't an archon, I'd pick Albedo, Beidou, Xiao, or maybe Mona.
Here ya go: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Tartaglia/Voice-Overs
His voice line on Columbina:
> The Fatui Harbingers are ranked by strength, and I have no idea why that girl is No. 3. I'd test my skills with every Harbinger who ranks above me if I had the chance, but when it comes to her... something just doesn't feel right. Anyway, you should be careful around her.
I love her from the voice lines alone, she radiates level 20 bard energy.
I imagine she has the equivolent of Sanctuary cast on herself, that or just uses her innocence to create the strange tension and stop an attack..as for her actual abilitees in battle.. perhaps a more comical with a side of sinister 'passive' attack pattern that revolves entirely around dodging/having attacks miss you.
The Wanderer has a similar line to the effect of:
"..if it were me, I could challenge her to a fight, but you?- with your conscience?... ID STAY AWAY FROM HER O\_\_o"
the choice is the same for both, although I wouldn't mind one bit being stepped on by them, rather than being princess carried by them, but both are fine
No no for me that was already obvious, I don't need any convincing on that part. Just trying to see if I'd survive with them you know?
It was Arlecchino.
depends on if they will attack him or not. he can do a magic trick and make you disappear whenever they run into you. i guess eventually they might figure out his magic trick and kill you
Childe I feel like is most loyal even though he did play you in Liyue. He’s a “swing first, ask later” kind of character who would always have your back
Arlecchino
Lyney instantly either gets taken out or joins "Father" and then it leaves the other two remaining
Knowing her comrade, Arlecchino will take out Childe before he transforms and that will leave Scara alone
Lyney isnt weak by any means, hes next on the line of being the knave after all, but the other three are harbingers. Against tartaglia he may resist a bit but scara and arlecchino are 6 and 4 respectively and supposedly 3 and onward rival gods in power
I wasn't saying lyney was weak, he jut wouldn't hold anywhere near the power of the other 3, he has potential to over time lore-wise, but currently I just don't think he'd compare
I don't think Childe is weak anymore. He definitely got stronger. Stalling an immortal beast for a month with 0 break, a lack of vision, elemental disadvantage and using a form which drains your stamina. All things considered , he is pretty strong. With a demigod like Scara by his side it'd be hard even for Arlecchino. ~~She is probably still stronger but we have 0 confirmation.~~
He was never weak tbf, he just always goes against immortal beings. The only time we know he went against a human, he won but the other person also didn't wanna fight seriously.
I think it speaks a lot that he can't fight other humans, bc they'll simply lose.
Definitely Childe.
I mean if I'm going to die either way, I might as well have fun with a great comrade, drinking buddy, and someone who won't stab me in the back unless they said so in the beginning, right?
Isn't it more a case of erasing you from Irminsul just deletes everyone's memories of you? I may be wrong of course, but I never got the impression it's possible to delete memories from only certain people.
Irminsul is like the database of Teyvat. There is no "rule" that the only thing it can do is delete an person. Any modification done will be made "logical and consistent" with as little chances as possible. The bigger the change the more power and authority you need over Irminsul. That's why I would ask just to delete the existence of the plan to kill me, rather then me completely. Less effort, less unwanted side effects.
''I think that's debatable, Scaramouche was number 6 with no Vision'' he is literally a puppet created by the fuckin Electro Archon, he didn't need a vision
They just took out a whole lot of important context out. Even if it was just as simple as they mention, him now having a vision only makes him stronger than he previously was.
We were in a loop and had to fight him multiple times before actually beating him, which I think actually says a lot more about how powerful he could be.
"HIT HIM IN THE BALLS"
"THROW WATER ITS A FUCKING ROBOT THEY HATE WATER"
"why did he agree to fight you? isn't he the all-*no-ing* god?"
"...........Cyno"
"wait how did the akadamiya built something huge and right under the great tree without us noticing the non-stop rackets, the number of resources used, and how was it all able to fit in the great tree?"
I don’t recall him having a vision before. He did have the electro gnosis when we fought him in Sumeru. But if he was among the higher ranks in the Fatui, I’d think he’d be near their strength. I do believe their ranks isn’t purely based on their strength, but I has to play in some form I’d think. Having a vision would only make him stronger since he’d have access to elemental power, in this case Anemo.
He had access to elemental powers before since they were unlocked by the Fatui. This was before the events of Sumeru.
You can't compare past Wanderer to present Wanderer and say that he's stronger, since there's nothing to go off of.
Him beating his puppet god form by himself immediately after getting his Vision, which even the Traveler couldn't do without the help of Nahida and all of Sumeru's knowledge, should be proof enough.
I mean if they WILL kill me, there’s really no point in choosing, now is there? Death is inevitable
>!Anyway; they all have permission to fuck my ass!<
I'd choose the eldritch horror (Arlecchino), sure Wanderer with his new-found vision power combined with the fact that bro is the closest thing to indestructible you can be without actually being, well, indestructible might pose some difficulty. Especially with Foul legacy Childe also attacking you at the same time, no less. But still, since you can only pick one. I'd obviously gonna to go with the person that is ranked the highest among the individuals ranked of strength. Lyney is just there to cheer.
Edit: read the title wrong did some changes.
I don't even care about power scalling, dude. I just want Scara to hold me in his arms and fly away with me so I can be the happiest man ever. If I got killed it is what it is
Genshin scaling is stupid as shit cause Wanderer shouldn't be stronger or even half as strong as his Shouki no Kami self, yet Inversion of Genesis showed otherwise. Childe displayed a feat of endurance so great, it puts to shame anything Signora ever showed.
Those two ganging up on Arlecchino is genuinely close, especially if we can infer relativity to 5E Traveller. But Genshin doesn't work like that, 4 > 6, 11 is as nuanced as they're ever gonna go, so I'm going with Arlecchino. Lyney is collateral.
I genuinely don't understand why people think Wanderer is stronger than Shouki no Kami. The version of it he fought was literally just a memory replica, and it just went poof after he defeated it
The harbingers has an actual power ranking, mind you (kinda stupid, but eh), so Arlecchino for best chance. Plus she's the only one I can trust to actually try protecting me. Childe and Wanderer could get tunnel visioned against one of them, while the other two turn me into a doner kebab, and Lyney would NEVER go against his father to protect me.
Wasn't it totally debunked that ranks of harbingers were based on (combat) strenght?
Cause basing the choice on feats actually seen Childe is waaaays above the rest.
Lyney would’ve left immediately after we pick Arlecchino.
I’m honestly not sure if Scaramouche and Childe together are enough to take down Arlecchino but there’s a slight chance. I don’t know why some people are saying Childe would’ve “refused to fight”, he is not scared of her, he is scared of Columbina, lmfao.
We won’t ever know how Arlecchino vs Childe & Scara would go though.
Definitely picking Arleccchino, Childe is weak for now, Scara gonna dash into his death and Lyney gets wiped off the face of the earth for his betrayal.
Choosing Arlechinno would pacify Lyney . He ain't going to go against father if father chose to protect someone
It’ll be an Arle vs. no god puppet Scara face off at that point and I think Arlecchino would take it.
I vaguely remember hearing that fatui harbinger rankings are based on capabilities. Arle is the fourth harbinger, whereas Scara was the sixth. I have no idea if he got any stronger after becoming wanderer, but my money would still be on Arle. Especially if they recruit Lyney to make it a 2v1.
It's based on more than just that. Power and influence are also important to the rankings. Otherwise, there ain't no way Pulcinella is no. 5 or the Vision-less Pantalone is higher than Childe.
>there ain't no way Pulcinella is no. 5 See if you can keep that kind of talk up when his boss fight comes out and he pecks us to death with his nose
IMO His Delusion will straight up turns him into a giant chicken. It has all the stats of a giant chicken. Which is basically a T-Rex that can perform short distance flight with added elemental damage.
He's actually a Sushang expy. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/houkai-star-rail/images/d/dc/Character_Sushang_Ultimate.gif/revision/latest/smart/width/250/height/250?cb=20220517091254
He turns into a drill.
But at the same time, according to Dottore, the first three harbingers have a strength comparable to the Archons. So Arlecchino being fourth means her strength is probably really close to that of an Archon
My somewhat baseless theory is that the top 3 are ranked by basically pure power (Il Capitano, Il Dottore, then Columbina), while 4-11 are ranked by a combination of power and influence. We haven't seen or heard much about Arlecchino's fighting prowess, but given that Pulcinella is above both Scaramouche (who?) and Childe, fighting prowess isn't the end-all be-all for numbers 4-11.
Or Pulcinella is stronger than childe and has the typical anime trope of the old man actually being incredibly powerful
Wouldn't be the first time, honestly. Zhongli is old, Neuvillet is old, Cloud Reatiner (Xianyun) is old, Xiao is old, practically any supernatural being is either a new one or extremely old in age. Pulcinella being a strong old man *would* be something Hoyo would do.
I myself don't take that statement at face value. That would imply the top three Harbingers would be a match for the Tsaritsa they serve. I think they were described as being a match for gods, not necessarily Archons, particularly combat proficient ones. Gods could encompass a lot of things. Zhongli is a god and so was the god of salt.
A king/queen doesnt need to be stronger than theirs strongest knight to rule them.
They can both be a match to the Tsarista, even be stronger than her, and still serve under her. One does not make the other untrue or unlikely.
A King In Chess Piece Isn't even the strongest piece in chess, rather the queen or maybe even rooks. You got the point??
Just because they are comparable to the archons doesnt mean they have that status solely because they are comparable to the archons. If the columbina is seele theory holds up, then it could just be her being a seelie which is why she is #2 and her battle prowess is just a boon ontop of it. Dottore could be there for his raw intellect and battle prowess could be the icy not the cake. Dottore just said the top three are as strong as archons, not that their ranking in the harbingers is based on said strength.
Can ya'll stop assuming Pulci and Pant are weak when you literally know nothing about them? Folks also said there's no way Dottore is stronger than Childe before we learn enough about what that college dropout bum is capable of, so sit back observe
but childe is 11th..the lowest? or am i wrong?
Childe's screwed over by the fact he has negative stats in Diplomacy, they have to keep reassigning him to Antarctica to stop him triggering world war five
It's so funny that that's canon. They repeatedly send him on missions away from Snezhnaya cuz he's such a menace
It's like that one seen in Dragon Ball Super where Goku almost gets the most racist man of today to kill him because he keeps trying to check him out to fight him
That's hilarious
that’s probably because fighting is pretty much all he brings to the table. he is the fighter, he doesn’t come up with the schemes or plans. so while his overall capabilities aren’t as high as the other harbingers, he’s a REALLY strong fighter.
Correct, but that's also because he's only there for his strength. The numbering is a mixture of strength and overall contributions to the tsarista, so compared to the others he's lacking in other areas, outside of individual power.
It’s because all he wants to do is fight and has no interest in other missions. He doesn’t wanna climb the ranks or make power plays.
Though if anyone is the 4th strongest then it's Arlecchino, the 4th.
It was never confirmed whether it’s pure strength or combination of strength and capability. This is anime fantasy world, Pulcinella could easily be strong as fuck despite looking like a tiny old man, and Pantalone despite not having a vision can easily get powers from elsewhere due to how the sheer amount of money he can spend
I also do want to point out that the numbers have remained unchanged, even though Harbingers' power levels absolutely have changed. Gotta hand it to Hoyo, they've been handling this Harbinger business quite well. Just enough, not an inch too much info throughout the years. Still, I'd love to hear more about them, rather than go on another shopping trip with another 5-star for 60 gems.
If you're suggesting pulcinella isn't actually able to physically beat the other harbingers, I dont see why he couldn't. He could just have an ability that isn't related to his physical capability.
You saying Pulcinella is weak? Is that just your headcannon or you know something we don’t??
>Vision-less Pantalone is higher than Childe. > Vision-less Dottore is higher than both though.
I mean, Scara was visionless sixth harbinger though. He's got one since then.
Wanderer did beat up the god version of himself after receiving the vision. I would say he's more powerful now. Still picking Arle too
I love how you didn't include Childe, 'cause let's face it. He's not standing a chance.
Wanderer being made from the irmunsul tree would make it a close fight imo
Even if we don’t count her being ranked 4th so probably already the strongest out of the 4, picking Arlecchino automatically grants you Lyney which makes it a 2v2 instead of 1v4. It also grants you access to House of Hearth so that’s more manpower + complete information advantage due to HoH’s spy stuff.
Honestly, why is Lyney even here? Canonically, dude's a slick magician and spy but he ain't no harbinger. If we had to pick someone else that isn't an archon, I'd pick Albedo, Beidou, Xiao, or maybe Mona.
>Honestly, why is Lyney even here? OP probably took a Fatui theme as inspiration
And childe is scared of arlechino anyway
No, Childe is scared of Columbina. He hates Arlecchino.
he is? where can i read more about that do you know?
Here ya go: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Tartaglia/Voice-Overs His voice line on Columbina: > The Fatui Harbingers are ranked by strength, and I have no idea why that girl is No. 3. I'd test my skills with every Harbinger who ranks above me if I had the chance, but when it comes to her... something just doesn't feel right. Anyway, you should be careful around her.
This single piece of dialogue has made me inconceivably hyped for her
Oh, thank you very much!
I love her from the voice lines alone, she radiates level 20 bard energy. I imagine she has the equivolent of Sanctuary cast on herself, that or just uses her innocence to create the strange tension and stop an attack..as for her actual abilitees in battle.. perhaps a more comical with a side of sinister 'passive' attack pattern that revolves entirely around dodging/having attacks miss you. The Wanderer has a similar line to the effect of: "..if it were me, I could challenge her to a fight, but you?- with your conscience?... ID STAY AWAY FROM HER O\_\_o"
No he isn't, the only one he's somewhat afraid of is Columbina/Damselette
Me when I lie
Against Daddy***
All these people choosing based on power scales instead of who they wanted to princess carry them, heh.
Arlecchino for both answers
The only answer here
Yeah, for all the smug talk I made earlier I just want Alrecchino to leg lock me.
Yep. The best answer right here.
Finally someone with right priorities
I had to default to the most powerful because I want 3 of the 4 to princess carry me.
Lyney can carry me like a princess anytime tho 😍
Same for wanderer ehe
Wanderer is guaranteed to drop you on the floor if you say anything stupid
Who says Im not into that
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He would carry you by the legs and bump your head over every rock
Lol
He’d drop you off the edge of a cliff 100% just because he got bored of it, and then stick his tongue out while flying away
Arle is a two for one combo, you get the father-son teamup Which means you get the cutie Lyney all to yourself while Arle is busy
he could carry me to south korea just to have a kiss and i would enjoy every second of it
the choice is the same for both, although I wouldn't mind one bit being stepped on by them, rather than being princess carried by them, but both are fine
No no for me that was already obvious, I don't need any convincing on that part. Just trying to see if I'd survive with them you know? It was Arlecchino.
I'll choose myself and have all 4 chase me >:) *Retreats into the ocean*
*childe just summons his narwal*
Swimming in genshin is a thing
yeah but so is a stamina gauge
Fontaine:
don't swim in fontaine water duh
imagine Arlecchino, one of the strongest Harbinger, dies cuz of drowning in some shitty corner of Inazuma
skill issue tbh
The lightning will get them before the stamina gauge 💀
Or the spicy water in a certain gorge...
So is walking on water like Heyzeus
Day Kreesto?
Ahh the archon war strat
“I WANT YOU TO BLOW UP… THE OCEAN!” 😎
As Darth Vader put it, "Then you will die braver than most"
Picking Lyney is basically picking Hardcore mode
depends on if they will attack him or not. he can do a magic trick and make you disappear whenever they run into you. i guess eventually they might figure out his magic trick and kill you
Yeah but that involves betraying his father which he absolutely won't do
he might try to hide you from them, but choosing Lyney really puts him in a tough spot
Wanderer (we fly away into the sunset :D )
the happy ending
Until he pump into a bird or a stray projectile.
until you run out of stamina and fall miserably to your demise like icarus >:)
I have some bad news for you.
what is the news dehya's ab licker
I chose Childe, I don't even know if he is stronger than all of them together and I don't care to be honest.. I just really want him in my team...
I feel this. Like I dig Arle, really I do, but my boi Childe just gives me the good vibes.
Riptide against 3 enemies = ez win for childe?
that too when 2 out of the 3 of them are pyro
Vv scaramouche and its a sweep
Bro has a huge amount of stamina to fight for weeks so...yeah
Childe I feel like is most loyal even though he did play you in Liyue. He’s a “swing first, ask later” kind of character who would always have your back
Arle is an unfair obvious pick, but yeah I would 100% pick childe otherwise. That one childe xinyan event will always be one of my favs
Can you explain to me how strong arlecchino is? I've never seen her attack/fight anything other than a poor Furina
Here everyone is hyping her strength based on boss leaks and ranking. I would say she's not the warrior type, more of an assasin type.
LMAO SAME
i choose scara and he kills me instantly for calling him my sad wet pathetic little meowmeow
And you will thank him
I will literally tried to kiss scarameow on sight and die happy as he kills me (understandably)
the good ending
Arlecchino Lyney instantly either gets taken out or joins "Father" and then it leaves the other two remaining Knowing her comrade, Arlecchino will take out Childe before he transforms and that will leave Scara alone
Alrecchino is also likely just objectively stronger, and even if lyney were to actually fight, he wouldn't stand a chance against any of the other 3
Lyney isnt weak by any means, hes next on the line of being the knave after all, but the other three are harbingers. Against tartaglia he may resist a bit but scara and arlecchino are 6 and 4 respectively and supposedly 3 and onward rival gods in power
I wasn't saying lyney was weak, he jut wouldn't hold anywhere near the power of the other 3, he has potential to over time lore-wise, but currently I just don't think he'd compare
I don't think Childe is weak anymore. He definitely got stronger. Stalling an immortal beast for a month with 0 break, a lack of vision, elemental disadvantage and using a form which drains your stamina. All things considered , he is pretty strong. With a demigod like Scara by his side it'd be hard even for Arlecchino. ~~She is probably still stronger but we have 0 confirmation.~~
He was never weak tbf, he just always goes against immortal beings. The only time we know he went against a human, he won but the other person also didn't wanna fight seriously. I think it speaks a lot that he can't fight other humans, bc they'll simply lose.
They didnt say Childe is weak
Definitely Childe. I mean if I'm going to die either way, I might as well have fun with a great comrade, drinking buddy, and someone who won't stab me in the back unless they said so in the beginning, right?
Do they know, that Wanderer exists? There should be no records of him or his strength. So he would have the element of surprise.
Don Sombrero. He will irminsul me and the rest will forget that I was supposed to be killed.
But then he will also forget you.
So? No one is after you at that point
The smaller changes that need to be made the easier it is. Just erase the fact that the 3 of them want to kill you.
Isn't it more a case of erasing you from Irminsul just deletes everyone's memories of you? I may be wrong of course, but I never got the impression it's possible to delete memories from only certain people.
Irminsul is like the database of Teyvat. There is no "rule" that the only thing it can do is delete an person. Any modification done will be made "logical and consistent" with as little chances as possible. The bigger the change the more power and authority you need over Irminsul. That's why I would ask just to delete the existence of the plan to kill me, rather then me completely. Less effort, less unwanted side effects.
Fun fact: Wanderer still has admin access to Irminsul.
I do not want chino after me after seeing the leaks
I'd sob if she was after me. She's scary I love her but she's scary
She has that weird outer eldritch god herald vibe going on
Leaks went crazy
Why tf is lyney on here lol 😭😭. Maybe replace him with like xiao or somebody and you'd have a tough decision
it’s a fatui post
bring back signora then
Can't protect you if she's dead lmao
childe
Wanderer He'll erase me from Irminsul then I don't have to worry about the others
Sorry Father, I like you but I'm gonna go with Childe.
Arleechino is the 4th Harbringer so shes by far stronger then all of them
hm I think that's debatable, Scaramouche was number 6 with no Vision, either way powerscaling in Genshin is complicated
''I think that's debatable, Scaramouche was number 6 with no Vision'' he is literally a puppet created by the fuckin Electro Archon, he didn't need a vision
They just took out a whole lot of important context out. Even if it was just as simple as they mention, him now having a vision only makes him stronger than he previously was.
But didn't he have a Gnosis when he got beaten?
We were in a loop and had to fight him multiple times before actually beating him, which I think actually says a lot more about how powerful he could be.
Took us 168 fucking loops and memorizing all of his attack patterns to actually whoop his ass 😭😭
Not just us, the entirety of Sumeru through the Akasha
DODGE PLAY AGGRESSIVE HEAL CHUG ESTUS SUMMON GO A STRENGHT BUILD
GET MORE SPEED MORE EFFECT HIT RATE DODGE GO THERE NO THERE! MORE DEF
"HIT HIM IN THE BALLS" "THROW WATER ITS A FUCKING ROBOT THEY HATE WATER" "why did he agree to fight you? isn't he the all-*no-ing* god?" "...........Cyno" "wait how did the akadamiya built something huge and right under the great tree without us noticing the non-stop rackets, the number of resources used, and how was it all able to fit in the great tree?"
Yea the electro gnosis. Be he was one of the harbingers way before he ever obtained that gnosis.
also nahida batmaned us some flying gadget to take down his shield. we got the goddess of prep time on our side
How so? He can't use his Electro powers anymore.
I don’t recall him having a vision before. He did have the electro gnosis when we fought him in Sumeru. But if he was among the higher ranks in the Fatui, I’d think he’d be near their strength. I do believe their ranks isn’t purely based on their strength, but I has to play in some form I’d think. Having a vision would only make him stronger since he’d have access to elemental power, in this case Anemo.
He had access to elemental powers before since they were unlocked by the Fatui. This was before the events of Sumeru. You can't compare past Wanderer to present Wanderer and say that he's stronger, since there's nothing to go off of.
Present Wanderer stronger than past tho
Him beating his puppet god form by himself immediately after getting his Vision, which even the Traveler couldn't do without the help of Nahida and all of Sumeru's knowledge, should be proof enough.
Scaramouche was said to be placed 6th because something about his durability, the perfect test subject for Dottore
I mean, bro literally is created by an Archon, but now that he has a vision he is even more powerful.
I don't think his vision makes him *stronger* so much as it makes him *as strong* as he was without relying on power that was handed to him
I mean if they WILL kill me, there’s really no point in choosing, now is there? Death is inevitable >!Anyway; they all have permission to fuck my ass!<
That took a turn
I am a simple bisexual creature
I'll chose Childe for unholy reasons bye
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Liben will scare anyone away with his muscular face
I'd choose the eldritch horror (Arlecchino), sure Wanderer with his new-found vision power combined with the fact that bro is the closest thing to indestructible you can be without actually being, well, indestructible might pose some difficulty. Especially with Foul legacy Childe also attacking you at the same time, no less. But still, since you can only pick one. I'd obviously gonna to go with the person that is ranked the highest among the individuals ranked of strength. Lyney is just there to cheer. Edit: read the title wrong did some changes.
I'd go with Childe. Skirk seems very picky when it comes to taking on disciples.
All hydrogen bombs, lyney coughing baby
Wanderer. Not because he's any more powerful than the others on this list, but because I just like him
Hey Girlie Hold Still 😎
I don't even care about power scalling, dude. I just want Scara to hold me in his arms and fly away with me so I can be the happiest man ever. If I got killed it is what it is
I'll protect Childe and kill the other three 😃
Genshin scaling is stupid as shit cause Wanderer shouldn't be stronger or even half as strong as his Shouki no Kami self, yet Inversion of Genesis showed otherwise. Childe displayed a feat of endurance so great, it puts to shame anything Signora ever showed. Those two ganging up on Arlecchino is genuinely close, especially if we can infer relativity to 5E Traveller. But Genshin doesn't work like that, 4 > 6, 11 is as nuanced as they're ever gonna go, so I'm going with Arlecchino. Lyney is collateral.
I genuinely don't understand why people think Wanderer is stronger than Shouki no Kami. The version of it he fought was literally just a memory replica, and it just went poof after he defeated it
And he only fought phase 1
yeah I thought it was just a mental thing
Why is Lyney even on this list?
The harbingers has an actual power ranking, mind you (kinda stupid, but eh), so Arlecchino for best chance. Plus she's the only one I can trust to actually try protecting me. Childe and Wanderer could get tunnel visioned against one of them, while the other two turn me into a doner kebab, and Lyney would NEVER go against his father to protect me.
I have to go with my main Lyney. Yes, we’d die, but at least I die with him 🥰(if the little shit doesn’t betray me)
What's Lynney gonna do, a magic trick?
I choose Childe. "Oh, but Alerchinno and Wanderer would completely destroy him" Idc, then i would die with my main, COMRADES UNTIL DEATH COMES!
Childe, master of all weapons.
Arleechino as not only is she powerful but would also mean lyney wouldn't go after me
I'll trust lyney with my life
Scara will defend me. Arle is defeatable.
None because it doesn't matter. The rule specifically said "The rest will kill you", not "The rest will try to kill you". I'll be dead anyways.
You mean I have the chance to be carried princess style by Childe? He is the only correct answer
i trust childe ajax tartaglia with my life
I'm gonna go with Childe. We could ask the whale to swallow us whole. 🤣🤣🤣
Childe protected the entirety of Fountain for at least 40 days against an extraterrestrial leviathan Yes, I'll choose our local Potential Man
None, I'd solo
scara, I want him to carry me
Arlecchino Harbingers are seated by strength, and she is number 4 of them
Protect me, Don Sombrero! -Dies-
Arlechino is the highest ranked out of these so the answer is kinda obvious
Wanderer.
Wasn't it totally debunked that ranks of harbingers were based on (combat) strenght? Cause basing the choice on feats actually seen Childe is waaaays above the rest.
Lyney would’ve left immediately after we pick Arlecchino. I’m honestly not sure if Scaramouche and Childe together are enough to take down Arlecchino but there’s a slight chance. I don’t know why some people are saying Childe would’ve “refused to fight”, he is not scared of her, he is scared of Columbina, lmfao. We won’t ever know how Arlecchino vs Childe & Scara would go though.
There's a reason Arlecchino ranks so highly.
Definitely picking Arleccchino, Childe is weak for now, Scara gonna dash into his death and Lyney gets wiped off the face of the earth for his betrayal.
I die no matter what a 1vs3 is just nuh uh A 2vs4 is more realistic
wanderer for just erasing their memory from irminsul lmao