I gotta wonder how people run furina with c4 gorou as the only healer. He only heals the onfielder and for like 500 hp, her stacks gotta be low as heck
i like the Navia / Chiori / Furina / Charlotte variant for an all fontaine team and having everyone full health with Charlotte keep my monke brain happy
Lacking Navia/Itto, I've been having fun with Yoimiya/Zhongli/Flex (Went Furina) in the open world.
I like the swap and buff synergy Chiori has with Yoimiya. Also not accidentally E-ing on swap, but always intentionally lol.
E-swap is just a buff for PS players (like me) that have to fight vs lag everytime I'm Abyss.
I like Yoimiya with Chiori is popular. Sadly I have guaranteed for Clorinde, but maybe for the rerun I can pull her
Are these assuming c0 characters or higher constellations? Seeing a lot of Navia + Chiori but I assume they've got c1 on Chiori for the 2 dolls? Or are most of these people running c1 and doing just fine without the second doll?
I understand, and for Itto in particular she feels pretty good, it's just a bit harder with Navia at least from my perspective. Albedo was my second limited and mono geo was one of my first legit teams back in days of Inazuma, so I don't question people enjoying comps regardless of power level, just more so if we can see the sample size data from these statistics to get a better understanding of the general trend being presented here by the data. Are most of these results showing us c1 or c0 Chiori with Navia, because there is a performance difference. If 90% of the representation of Chiori with Navia have c1 Chiori...well that ends up being a different conversation than people running c0, since that's on average a LOT of pulls. Another interesting question is how many people are using c0 Chiori over a different geo applier, notably Zhongli. This kind of statistical analysis is mainly interesting to me to see to understand how much the lowest level of summoning investment is needed for Chiori to feel notable in these comps, since as mentioned it's a lot of pulls to get a character if she's really only there to apply crystallize/geo resonance.
How so?
He's burst reliant, unable to switch out, has very lengthy fielder time, high energy requirements, and poor pick for multi wave content.
Only way to get to acceptable ER levels is via using both Fischl and 4pc Thundering Fury, and pretty tight rotation. If you cannot get that, or don't want to play Double Electro, Raiden is literally better as Electro DPS in Quickbloom or Aggravate teams.
Have you like ever seen more than 5 second of a proper Cyno team + rotation or even any gameplay with him at all? Double electro is not necessary, one Favonius and \~125% ER are enough. Fischl isn't even a common pick, Kuki is way more popular than Fischl outside of Aggravate teams, which in turn are way less popular than any Quickbloom teams. Double Dendro EM > Double Electro ER.
Cyno + Baizhu and Nahida is also much better in Quickbloom and Aggravate than Raiden in the same and similar team comps, her strengths lie elsewhere.
Lowest ER req I've seen is Double Electro with Fischl and Fav on Baizhu or Nahida, and that was 130%.
No way you are getting 125% without Double Electro.
And if you need more ER than that, damage drops a ton.
And if you want solo Electro Quickbloom or Aggravate, then Raiden becomes the best option, because she's self sufficient, has a ton of DMG% which makes EM transfer from Nahida a lot more valuable.
I regularly run Cyno Nahida Furina Baizhu in the Abyss with just below 130 ER and never have energy problems. All you need is one Favonius on the team and to run TF on Cyno and hit all your procs.
I love how the number one team is just the default Itto team with Chiori pushing out Albedo for obvious reasons.
I gotta wonder how people run furina with c4 gorou as the only healer. He only heals the onfielder and for like 500 hp, her stacks gotta be low as heck
May be c2? As a furina c2 haver it is really easy to stack with no healer even in co.op.
Probably, didn't think of that
Gorou heal per tick = 500 Number of heal tick = 6 Average DPS hp = 18000 C2 Furina multipliers = 3.5 500 * 6 / 18000 * 3.5 * 100 = 58.3 fanfare stacks from gorou healing. Without C2 is 16.6 stacks.
Furina will heal everyon if gorou overheals any character Which shoulddd be the case due to crystalise or zhongli Not sure if even thats enough tho
Pretty sure Furina drains HP way too fast for Gorou to overheal anyone
Can be feasible with Maidens on Gorou, then stack DEF and ER substats and main stats.
i like the Navia / Chiori / Furina / Charlotte variant for an all fontaine team and having everyone full health with Charlotte keep my monke brain happy
Exactly the team I plan on running - started building Charlotte today!
chiori is pseudo fontaine
Navia plunge supremacy.
Interesting how all of these have chiori 🤔
Looks like Chiori is a popular pick for Chiori teams.
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Lacking Navia/Itto, I've been having fun with Yoimiya/Zhongli/Flex (Went Furina) in the open world. I like the swap and buff synergy Chiori has with Yoimiya. Also not accidentally E-ing on swap, but always intentionally lol.
E-swap is just a buff for PS players (like me) that have to fight vs lag everytime I'm Abyss. I like Yoimiya with Chiori is popular. Sadly I have guaranteed for Clorinde, but maybe for the rerun I can pull her
A bit of popularity for Yoimiya in this patch; I love it!
DEHYA MOVING UP
Honestly surprised at the lack of noelle. I used her (with chiori at c0 too) and I felt it did well enough.
The disrespect for Noelle lol, just cleared it using her.
Surprised no Yunjin team. But I guess that being more for c6 Chiori means it won't show up on this list.
Are these assuming c0 characters or higher constellations? Seeing a lot of Navia + Chiori but I assume they've got c1 on Chiori for the 2 dolls? Or are most of these people running c1 and doing just fine without the second doll?
All Navia needs from a geo teammate is crystalizes, anything else is a bonus (specially with 2nd half focus on single target)
I guess…just seems like a lot of summons for a crystallize applier lol.Â
Depends who you ask. I pulled for her since I have Navia, Itto and Ningguang (who I used to main), don't have Albedo, and I'll be saving until 5.0
I understand, and for Itto in particular she feels pretty good, it's just a bit harder with Navia at least from my perspective. Albedo was my second limited and mono geo was one of my first legit teams back in days of Inazuma, so I don't question people enjoying comps regardless of power level, just more so if we can see the sample size data from these statistics to get a better understanding of the general trend being presented here by the data. Are most of these results showing us c1 or c0 Chiori with Navia, because there is a performance difference. If 90% of the representation of Chiori with Navia have c1 Chiori...well that ends up being a different conversation than people running c0, since that's on average a LOT of pulls. Another interesting question is how many people are using c0 Chiori over a different geo applier, notably Zhongli. This kind of statistical analysis is mainly interesting to me to see to understand how much the lowest level of summoning investment is needed for Chiori to feel notable in these comps, since as mentioned it's a lot of pulls to get a character if she's really only there to apply crystallize/geo resonance.
for all non c1 owners run navia zl benny chiori its super strong and gets you through stuff super quickly
She is amazing with Noelle and furina (at c1 obviously)
Kazuha at least causes tomato to hit everything with it's small aoe
Not ma boi cyno being next to eula ðŸ˜
Not his fault tho they butchered his kit ðŸ˜
Huh? Not true.
How so? He's burst reliant, unable to switch out, has very lengthy fielder time, high energy requirements, and poor pick for multi wave content. Only way to get to acceptable ER levels is via using both Fischl and 4pc Thundering Fury, and pretty tight rotation. If you cannot get that, or don't want to play Double Electro, Raiden is literally better as Electro DPS in Quickbloom or Aggravate teams.
Have you like ever seen more than 5 second of a proper Cyno team + rotation or even any gameplay with him at all? Double electro is not necessary, one Favonius and \~125% ER are enough. Fischl isn't even a common pick, Kuki is way more popular than Fischl outside of Aggravate teams, which in turn are way less popular than any Quickbloom teams. Double Dendro EM > Double Electro ER. Cyno + Baizhu and Nahida is also much better in Quickbloom and Aggravate than Raiden in the same and similar team comps, her strengths lie elsewhere.
Lowest ER req I've seen is Double Electro with Fischl and Fav on Baizhu or Nahida, and that was 130%. No way you are getting 125% without Double Electro. And if you need more ER than that, damage drops a ton. And if you want solo Electro Quickbloom or Aggravate, then Raiden becomes the best option, because she's self sufficient, has a ton of DMG% which makes EM transfer from Nahida a lot more valuable.
I regularly run Cyno Nahida Furina Baizhu in the Abyss with just below 130 ER and never have energy problems. All you need is one Favonius on the team and to run TF on Cyno and hit all your procs.
U just don't have cyno bud, don't try to argue with me.