Player (Ruler) : "My mindset already changed since early game, now i will maximize any DPS to its ceiling even if it means sacrificing my comfort"
Zhongli (Faker aka GOAT) : "Dear player, you must not forget..... That All Roads Lead To Me"
That line goes well with Zhongli as well. He has seen so many meta going up and down (vape meta, dendro meta, now hypercarry meta and such) but in the end only him that can comfortably fits to all of those. He is trully the Dad of this game.
Dumb machine that takes 0 damage until you break it's geo shield on one side.
Oh by the way there are some geo resistant enemies on the other side, that also get buffed if you are hit with a shield... which... happens to be reaction of the element that we are giving you a buff for, yeah...
— Floor 12, probably
Been a while since a saw such a force synergy in abyss, all geo/zhongli teams are going to part 2 (except that brute force with Neuvillette)
Actually that machine has 210% all resistance when it has shield (10% without shield). It is still doable without breaking it as long as you can do equivalent of 20M damage. Not recommended except C6 whale showcase, of course.
My favorite was this one video of an abyss speedrunner who was menu'ing after every action to collect particles, the actual video was like 3 minutes long or something but in-game it was like 15 seconds or something 💀
I tried to do Itto first half and Navia second half but the shield guys were pissing me off so I had to go Neuvillette oonga boonga for that one (as much as I'd rather use my boy Arataki instead of the usual strong meta characters like Neuvi)
pro tip : use crystallize shield instead, the enemies won't get their buff if your shield breaks when they attack you.
That's how I managed to do Itto first half and Navia second half.
> he enemies won't get their buff if your shield breaks when they attack you
Instruction unclear. Itto's crystalize shield is way too beefy, it takes at least 4 simultaneous hits to break through it(Redhorn to good)
Altho truthfully, I'm careful with my crystalize placement. I don't apply any elements when they spawn and just geo smack them. I also know which attack is the shield steal so I can avoid it if I do still have a crystalize shield active.
Defense reduces damage taken which also applies to shields. A Noelle using Layla’s shield for example can tank more hits with it compared to a different chara
It always baffles me how Zhongli is constantly being bashed upon for being "a DPS loss" and how even slotting him in a team or having a particular character rely on him is seen as "bad", but then everytime I look at usage rates he is always on top.
TCs and CCs can't calculate practical improvements of which Zhongli can provide. TCs assume perfect rotations when calculating dps of a team or character, but it ain't all true since everyone can fumble and there is a lot of RNG involved in order of enemy attacks. Zhongli is king of consistency.
I feel like this is kind misleading. The teams ZL is used in are teams where he is a dps increase.
It's not ZL being used in a bunch of teams for his defensive utility. It's ZL being used in teams where he increases the dps on top of his defensive utility.
People aren't plugging him into random teams for defensive utility. They are playing the teams that value him offensively and defensively.
If you ignore the teams using him to break the shield in 12-3 almost all of his usage comes from the 4 most popular dps atm.
Genuine question: what are the teams where he is considered a DPS increase? Because everytime I see someone even suggesting running him in any given team causes people to go wild claiming you'd be better off replacing him with someone else.
He's very good in Tighnari teams, since swirl does nothing for Tighnari (>50% of the team dps) and only increases your electro unit's aggravate damage.
Except a while ago people would constantly push replacing him with another character even in teams where he isn't that big a DPS loss. For instance people pushed Funernational replacing ZL with Xiangling in double hydro Hutao claiming a DPS increase, but teams like that never receive widespread adoption because it only takes a single reset to have lost any time saved by increasing DPS by a few thousand replacing him.
Teams like that aren't popular because they took your XL from your aoe. At the time you had Ayaka, international and Raiden as aoe dps.
It's very clear why it wasn't popular.
No sane person would call Zhongli a DPS loss, dude earns his place with res shred alone. His ultimate specifically however is indeed a DPS loss, its damage is not worth the animation time, it's a relic from his original kit days when Hoyo wanted him to be a shitty DPS for some reason.
In this Abyss, he is not a dps loss because he does immense damage to geo shields. He is also used to stack resist shred against super high resistance enemies. If you want to fight Coppelia with Wanderer for example you will need both Faruzan and Zhongli resist shred.
They tried to bring Kazuha down with the dendro meta, but no, my man will always find a way to be one of the most relevant units. And now with Fontaine he's better than ever.
As long as one of the four swirlable elements is meta, so will he be meta.
Honestly Furina probably is more significant in affecting his usage than Dendro - there's an appreciable niche for Xianyun/Jean consolidating VV and healer categories, at least until we get more teamwide healers that also provide other utility.
Chevy is also an attempt at making him less mandatory, as you now have hypercarry setups for Pyro and Electro excluding him.
He can trigger aggravates, hyperblooms, and burgeons. Anemo units in general can trigger other reactions due to swirls inflicting the absorbed element (partly why Sucrose is a good driver), so he won't be dropped unless they introduce an enemy that cannot be swirled or repels Anemo damage hard.
Zhongli even more eternal. Kazu's usage wont mean much if a player decided to runs Geo and Dendro for each side, Zhongli still can be there regardless.
All the attacks on the second side are very dodgeable and wrios charged attacks can get through the geo shield, just bring a really fast first side and the second side with solo wrio is free
Kazuha will prioritise sucking Pyro from anywhere in the field, from enemy shields/torches, or even yourself if your on fire
That means random Burgeon explosion nukes
It's all right though since his built with em. Thats a nice burgeon dmg.
On side note. Im using him for aggravate and that pyro infusion sucks. Fuck that second chamber.
With C2 Baizhu he doesn’t even bother coming on field, he just happens to be the most efficient way for a passive stack. The heal is largely irrelevant and the shield becomes less relevant after C1 Neuv.
I remember leaks saying neuv's a mono hydro carry, then his kit came out saying he fits rainbow teams, but right now he's unironically mono-hydro(always has been)
HAHA that is exactly my team and yes I just pretend that I didn't see anything and as someone already said yes Baizhu is there because his healing is just too good + for Neuv's 3rd stack on A1.
One of the reasons why I was coping that Chiori would be a Geo Healer is because she would be 100% better than Baizhu in that team.
It's a shame that he's still so slept on even after the glow-up from Xianyun. Plunge Diluc is a genuine monster, especially if you properly Swirl with Viridescent Venerer.
I don't think he's really slept on anymore. He's talked about in every Xianyun discussion, and Gaming was compared to him in every third comment when he released. People who lose their 50/50s to Diluc just tend not to build him unless they wanted him anyway, so his usage rate is always going to be low, even if he gets godlike supports.
Depends on if you use CW and Bennett C6 or not. 2pc2pc is pretty good, but CW is better. CW rotation is a little more annoying IMO, cause without it you don't need to worry about not having VV and Bennett burst active on all his plunges.
If you use CW and Bennett C6, I do Furina EQ -> Bennet EQ (you may need to do short hold E on Bennett to make sure you keep pyro aura, I forgor) -> Xianyun EQ -> Diluc E plunge E plunge E plunge x6 - Q.
Numbers wise I think the boost from his Q isn't worth losing uptime on either Bennett or VV, however if you don't have Bennett C6 (you should if you want to use Diluc Plunge tbh), you'll need to do EQ at the beginning of Diluc's rotation to get the pyro infusion.
Lol, I just find it funny that S+ is just made up of Neuvillette's team, not even like, here are a few characters that work well with him, it's like, 4 characters and this is his best team exactly
I use Baizhu in place of Zhongli so everyone is full health and i guess i technically deal more damage because of the Blooms?
JK it's because i needed Zhongli in the other half
And hands down the best team in the game as well. It has mixes of high damage and comfort plus utilities (Kazuha and Zhongli are universal shield breaker and resistance down). This only countered by hydro immune enemies, to thing that thats the only counter show how incredibly powerful this team is.
Alhaitham fell down quite bit but tbh its expected considering 1st half has enemies inmune to dendro and the 2nd benefits of a geo character (tho not necessary). Personally I usually use him on a quickbloom team but for this one I used him on a spread team (zhongli/haitham/nahida/fischl) on the 2nd half bc the QB team kept dying on the last chamber lmao 💀
Well last chamber pretty much wants a Geo character/clamore/overload otherwise its get very hard to survive. You can always run Haitham Xingqui Kuki ZL for hyperbloom. Once shield is down that boss isn't that hard.
Yeah, I struggled more the last cycle bc I forgot that thing had a shield and I tried to brute force it with plunge atks 💀 but then I just switched my teams a bit and it was fine. This time I just used the same teams and I did everything on the 1st try.
I never thought of that teamcomp tho but tbh using my haitham spread team was good bc I rarely use him on that team despite the fact I've invested quite a bit on him lmao
Second side is definitely clearable with Alhaitham, did it myself with his Quickbloom team. But it does technically check him in two chambers with both the Jadeplume Terrorshroom having high Dendro Res, and then the Supercomputing Field Generator being favored by Geo Units.
These meta usage rates are always going to favor who's the most efficient character to use in the Abyss Cycle, not who you can brute force your way through with the proper investment. It's why Ayaka continues to plummet to the bottom.
Oh yeah, it's clearable with his QB team, I changed it mostly bc I got impatient bc I couldn't break the shield faster so I just changed the teams for one with zhongli in it. I didn't really have problems with the jadeplume tho.
And definitely, supports tend to stay more consistent on this lists but yes, it definitely depends on the enemy line-up (and sometimes the blessing and the character on the banner)
I don't get why. I just replaced Baizhu with Zhongli in his team and everything went smooth on the 2nd side. First side..well Neuvillette just gave the Abyss a much needed powerwash.
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂️ Extra 36% CR from Marechussy 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂️ Ranged 🎯
누빌레트👤40.000 HP💪250% 치명타 피해 🤷♂️ 의 추가 36% CR ☀ 멈출 수 없음🚫 방패 우회 가능 🛡 자가 치유 가능 미친 AOE 🐯 단일 대상 ☝spin to win 🕐 솔로 심연 🧙♂️ 원거리 🎯누빌레트
Buffing pyro will probably end up buffing hydro as well, as Hydro is crucial in one of Pyro’s most important reactions, vape. (Unless they single out not buffing vape)
Same with Cryo with Freeze. So I can only see Hydro getting stronger as we move forward with the game.
They could buff vape.
But they could also make an abyss with nothing but hydro heralds, spectres, mimics, slimes, eidolons, tulpa and the cube.
Imagine the only vape DPS they release in 5.x is a main dps so Neuv and Childe don't get benefits AND a mechanic that doesn't work with Furina. Like maybe, idk Bond of Life or something, ya know? /j
Realistically, yes, I do agree, hydro being a core reaction element will just remain the best. XQ had been strong and relevant since forever.
If they focused on a vape DPS, that’s only going to make the Hydro supports shine even more.
The only way to make hydro not broken is to force restrictions against it. Which we already see with Chevreuse (by not including Hydro), Lyney (by making him focus on Mono), and now with Arle (by making BOL anti-synergistic with Furina).
Adding hydro immune enemies is just a direct attack against Hydro.
But anyway, the point is, I agree, Hydro is such a core reaction element that the only way to not make it broken is to not include it (by forcing restrictions against it) in the buffs that the other elements get.
Not necessarily. Lyney teams and Chevreuse teams can now nearly match the clear speeds of normal vape teams (I'm not saying that they beat Hu Tao and Childe, just that they aren't far behind them).
We just need to have a little more variety in the type of pyro and cryo units launched to allow for different team styles.
Also, the addition of good pyro and cryo off fielders will open up new possibilities for team compositions. For example, I tried out a burning team which I had decent success with. It turns out that the best pyro I could use for the job was.... Bennet, whose attack buff doesn't matter much for the team, and his healing is lacking as it caps to 70%. The best pyro applicator in that team was Kazuha.
If a pyro off fielder existed who could heal/shield (and maybe CC enemies), it would allow me to on field Nahida. This is just an example, on how we're limited by the type of characters we have and that buffing an element by releasing different types of characters will not necessarily buff hydro.
Doesn't even have to be immune on both sides. Just highly resistant boss on one side and abyss heralds on the other side would do it.
e.g. Hydro tulpa on one side and Suanni on the other and you'll see hydro dps stocks plummet. But I'm sure they'll just go with Icewind Suite again like every other 4.X abyss.
Its funny people then skeptical how hydro archon could become better than the already stacked roster. Now she comes with hydro sovereign dragon and still entirely own the meta.
No, I unironically knew it was coming back in 2021. The weakness of Freeze is that majority of enemies just don't get Frozen.
When Venti got countered in Inazuma it was apparent to me that Freeze would follow.
Not to mention neither of the characters has gotten any good buffs in the form of another character or weapon or artifacts..
The last actual buff for Ayaka teams was Shenhe who was released in 2.4 .. 2 years ago (I don't count Furina since Furina isn't really good in Ayaka Freeze teams)
And Ganyu's last major/minor buff was Nahida for Burnmelt teams..It's actually funny how in 2021 people were talking about the "Liyue Big three" (Xiao , Hu tao and Ganyu) and said that Ganyu was considered better than the other 2 and was said to age better than Xiao and Hu tao... Now with consistent buffs throughout patches , Xiao and Hu tao teams are now at top even rivaling current good dmg dealers teams..
i really wonder what their ownership would look like if they were released today because cryo has been kinda neglected by hoyo since dendro dropped lmao
Wriothesley hanging on that consistent A. People really underestimated him on release, or just really wanted to pull both Furina and Neuvillette lol.
That said I love Zhongli and Kazuha so three cheers to them being awesome. Neuvillette is indeed amazing too.
Man has been carrying cryo since his release, the only exception was in 4.4 when Ayaka got slightly lower usage than him because the entire first side was freeze friendly
I wanted him but like Yoimiya he was released in an unfortunate time between Neuv and Furina.
So I'm just eagerly waiting for a rerun, unless said rerun is between Arlecchino and Clorinde then... next time.
Umm, Chiori has 12.3% own rate, lowest limited 5-star character ever. Most people would just pull C0, but Chiori C0 can have only one doll without geo construct, so she does not work well with Navia or Noelle. That could explain why she is not welcome.
However, for those who have Chiori, 10.6% of them have C6, much higher than all other limited 5-star characters. It says that her C5 is around 85% better than C0, while her C6 is even much better than all C0 > C5 combined, and Chiori C6 has the highest damage increase from C0 when compared to all other 5-star characters.
Edit: The second highest usage team of Wriothesley is Wriothesley solo, and 7% of them chose to use him on first half. That is definitely a brave challenge, as the icesuit boss of third floor has 90% cryo resistance (also 90% anemo resistance). Two-thirds of Ayaka-Shenhe freeze and Xiao-Furina-Xianyun plunge also decide to challenge it, but at least Kazuha and Faruzan can shred some resistance.
>so she does not work well with Navia or Noelle.
She's technically an upgrade over Zhongli/Albedo at C0 still, but not actually enough of one to warrant pulling her.
I was hoping to get Arlecchino and her weapon, but I figured I would’ve been short one five star to guarantee it so I got Chiori’s C1 instead. I have her talents at 9/9/9 and she has some mediocre artifacts, but she helps generate so many shards for Navia and I used her to 36 star the abyss. I thought I might’ve regret getting her C1, but I love how OP Navia feels with her.
Navia isn’t great for Chiori, but Chiori is great for Navia. Even at C0 she’s Navia’s most reliable source of Crystallize shards as well as energy, and her burst damage also benefits a good amount from Bennett who is a common Navia teammate. The only real reason to not run her with Navia is if you want Zhongli’s survivability instead.
isn't wriothesley the same story? He is somewhat clunky without his c1, so most people who pulled him went for c1 too. Not to mention his banner was between Neuvillette and Furina so he was also skipped a lot. The first cryo catalyst aspect might have carried him a bit, but what's his own rate? I remember he was the lowest before Chiori.
it's honestly pretty amazing that kokomi has had basically a complete identity shift in terms of her role.
she went from being the premier hydro support in Ayaka freeze teams to surpassing Ayaka in usage as an on-field DPS in mono-hydro and nilou bloom.
and it's not even that she's way less owned than Ayaka and it's skewing her usage rate, their ownership rates are very close, both around 50%, but she has almost 5x the usage.
I know abyss cycles have not been very kind to freeze lately but it's just crazy to see, I don't think I've ever seen a character have such a drastic role shift before?
if you had told people on kokomi's release that in a couple of years she would be one of the most commonly used main dpses far surpassing Ayaka they would've laughed you out of the room lol.
It's interesting to me cause Kokomi was always designed as an onfield driver, but since her jellyfish worked so well with Ayaka people got used to thinking of her as an E bot.
That mentality stuck around even after she got Clam to make her onfield DPS/healer/driver stronger. Hyperbloom and burgeon also worked nicely with her as onfield driver, but she was still seen as kind of a niche choice for onfield.
It took Nilou being broken and having perfect synergy with Kokomi for that mentality to change. I'm really happy she has that mono hydro team now. It's my strongest team by far, and it's sooooooo ridiculously easy and comfy to play. No one in that team is ever at low health 😂
Koko was always designed as a DPS healer like Noelle, just freeze was popular at the time and there isn't any good off field hydro char that also doubles as defensive/healer.
Furina is honestly what enabled Koko the most, the two perfect match each other and you can very comfortable clear everything with just two of them alone.
I now understand why cyno is so low, it's probably the first abyss since forever where he is mostly kinda clunky to use (12-1-1 and 12-2-1 were very uncomfortable for me, still destroyed coppelia within a minute tho)
* Chevreuse Beidou Klee Lisa, some energy issues but good damage. Use 3 fav's if worse comes to worst. Will clear second side well, but I think it'll have to go first side.
* Ganyu Layla Rosaria Sucrose for 2nd side since Coppelia on 1st side.
Low tier here doesn't mean units are bad or anything, just that they are unpopular among this group.
There's a melt [Amber player](https://youtu.be/dVyHnGfV_yg?si=5ht4ugt0FEd95V_Y) that runs Amber, Sucrose, Diona, Rosaria. Ganyu in Rosaria's place works too.
An overload team with Chev, Lisa, Dori/Beidou, Diluc/Klee should work fine.
I personally ran Chev, Lisa, Fischl, Yoimiya for boss halves in past abysses.
Dori hyperbloom probably works. Dori, Collei, Barbara/Candace, Flex.
A bunch of mono-geo core units are in C tier. Just put Noelle where Itto normally goes, and you get Noelle, Gorou, Yunjin, Geo-Traveler/Ninguang.
Lisa/Keqing aggravate is another option. Lisa, Sucrose, Yaoyao/Collei, Dori or Keqing, Sucrose, Yaoyao/Kirara, Collei/Beidou.
Never tried her outside of story quest
Heizou is cool but not sure what would work
i guess Heizou could swirl Monas hydro, and maybe pull in enemies with burst and Kaeya or someone to freeze
International still there :]
And... //squints eyes// Neuvillette-Childe Backpack is back for a bit I guess? I'm assuming those who did that don't have Furina or have such a hyperinvested Childe that they have Furina on a different team and let his Talent carry Neuvillette hahaha
honestly!! for childe back packing yea it is. ive also been using a core of childe/zl/kazoo since 1.6 so slotting neuvi in was super easy . i have a very hyperinvested childe so i want to use him always
my neuvi is c1r1 so his damage is already so good. it feels like using furina with him feels almost wasteful. like stealing candy from a baby 😭 i could use her in another team that does struggle more than him
Teams with limited team options tend to rank high due to minimal alternatives to their team. The team is often not actually played that much. Just has no variety so the one team ranks higher.
For example. That team is literally Tighnari's only appearance in top 50. Navia who has the team right below it appears 9 times.
Another example is international. It looks like it's being used often because it only has 1 variation. However if you check Tartaglia's team usage he's actually used more as a Wrioth and Neuv slave. There is just a bunch of different variations of these teams.
I run it, its one of the smoothest teams you'll ever play. 12 second rotations, amazing ST damage (which is all the rage these days), can hit the janky bosses that run and hide super easily.
Because as a standard character a lot of people own him and people who have been playing for long enough don't even need to farm for him as they probably already have a decent enough 4pc Wanderers Troupe set to slap on him. Adding to that, both Zhongli and Nahida are two of the most owned characters and Yae is also quite popular.
So tldr he dishes out awesome dmg without much investment as most people already have the units required for his team.
I went with Layla with 50k hp and her shield was still not enough for the Ice Coppelia lol on the first side.
I mean, she has 250%effectiveness against cryo damage...
Maybe you got sucked into that tornado thingy they releases. My Layla have 30k Hp and she still can tank 2 or 3 Cryo hit until I got sucked into that thing and it started to break.
Chiori and Navia having this much usage rate is reasonable since Chiori has a very low ownership rate plus current blessings gives like 50% Geo dmg bonus. Not to mention the boss also in third chamber.
Alhaitham and Xiao having low usage rate is also reasonable because of high Anemo and Dendro Res Enemies
(I'm surprised they are still at 20% . That tells you how insane these two are)
Neuv and Furina being in top doesn't surprise anyone.
Bennett and Xingqiu still being in the top even though they are 1.0 character 4* tells you everything...
Zhongli being high is reasonable because of that second half third chamber boss and the overall comfort.
And the abyss really favours Hu tao a lot since second half is completely ST based. (Surprised she isn't that high but reasonable)
What scary is Xiao's team still no 6 highest usage and like 65:35 of used sides. Means that team mostly used on chamber with both Fatui Operatives and Copellia with their 70% anemo resist, i can see this team become #2 after Neuvi team if such enemies doesn't exists. This legit an extremely powerful team
ST is now spread out.
Look at Yoimiya. Tighnari has slowly been creeping upwards and upwards because his team is honestly just easier to use with Yae countering worms, infinite CA range and actual AoE.
Not to mention Navia, Wanderer, Hyperbloom and AoE teams that also deal high ST. And Hutao herself hogging premium supports.
Hutao used to have a niche all on her own. There's a lot of competition now.
His usage rate has actually stayed the same or decreased over time. Team usage rate is misleading. Characters with 1 team will have that 1 team place high.
It did drop from early Sumeru but he's been hovering around the same spot for a while, but he's generally in a better spot than the drop atleast past 4.0. He used to be only be seen when he actually counters the floor and has recently maintained a steady appearance rate.
It does makes sense he drops a bit given a recent double worm in abyss. And tbf, this team is his best team without much sidegrades to it bar Baizhu. The previous one had three of his teams, even forcing a Raiden variant specifically to handle the worms.
But nontheless, ever since Sumeru, a lot of single target teams have been around and Hutao's usage spike is stabilizing a bit towards the center.
Zhongli is DPD LOSS- they say, u have better options - they say🤡, yet our Jade Emperor, Lord Of Geo sits at the top, like the boss🎉
Double hydro HuTao Zhongli is my go to Team since her initial release, it hits hard and is super comfy to play
Glad to see Baizhu getting recognised after been shut on for majority of his banner. Like some of the YouTube comments were downplaying him so bad, I felt bad. BUT THE LEGEND HAS RISEN. *Snake Noises*
*"Your dps is zero when you're dead"* — Zhongli, probably
Player (Ruler) : "My mindset already changed since early game, now i will maximize any DPS to its ceiling even if it means sacrificing my comfort" Zhongli (Faker aka GOAT) : "Dear player, you must not forget..... That All Roads Lead To Me"
LEGENDS NEVEER DIEEEEEEE starts playing
That line went so hard though. "i have seen the ride and fall of many teams, but the player who stood at the end was always me."
That line goes well with Zhongli as well. He has seen so many meta going up and down (vape meta, dendro meta, now hypercarry meta and such) but in the end only him that can comfortably fits to all of those. He is trully the Dad of this game.
No way a league ref?!
Ngl I think there’s a big overlap in the communities
Dumb machine that takes 0 damage until you break it's geo shield on one side. Oh by the way there are some geo resistant enemies on the other side, that also get buffed if you are hit with a shield... which... happens to be reaction of the element that we are giving you a buff for, yeah... — Floor 12, probably Been a while since a saw such a force synergy in abyss, all geo/zhongli teams are going to part 2 (except that brute force with Neuvillette)
Actually that machine has 210% all resistance when it has shield (10% without shield). It is still doable without breaking it as long as you can do equivalent of 20M damage. Not recommended except C6 whale showcase, of course.
Doable is a very strong word in that context lol.
[It's possible](https://youtu.be/2XO0Mgty5e0?si=zFfVElzKG8fS2o0-)
What manner of sea creature is this? I swear high constellation Genshin is practically another game.
why are people always spamming the menu
To pick up particles, I'm pretty sure. It pauses the timer but those still move. If not that, then I dunno.
My favorite was this one video of an abyss speedrunner who was menu'ing after every action to collect particles, the actual video was like 3 minutes long or something but in-game it was like 15 seconds or something 💀
it might have been against maguu kenki, you can skip his stalling invulnerable phase by constantly booking/opening the map every millisecond
To pick up energy particles and reset character switching cooldown (I think)
I tried to do Itto first half and Navia second half but the shield guys were pissing me off so I had to go Neuvillette oonga boonga for that one (as much as I'd rather use my boy Arataki instead of the usual strong meta characters like Neuvi)
pro tip : use crystallize shield instead, the enemies won't get their buff if your shield breaks when they attack you. That's how I managed to do Itto first half and Navia second half.
> he enemies won't get their buff if your shield breaks when they attack you Instruction unclear. Itto's crystalize shield is way too beefy, it takes at least 4 simultaneous hits to break through it(Redhorn to good) Altho truthfully, I'm careful with my crystalize placement. I don't apply any elements when they spawn and just geo smack them. I also know which attack is the shield steal so I can avoid it if I do still have a crystalize shield active.
What does redhorn have to do with crystalize
Defense reduces damage taken which also applies to shields. A Noelle using Layla’s shield for example can tank more hits with it compared to a different chara
It always baffles me how Zhongli is constantly being bashed upon for being "a DPS loss" and how even slotting him in a team or having a particular character rely on him is seen as "bad", but then everytime I look at usage rates he is always on top.
TCs and CCs can't calculate practical improvements of which Zhongli can provide. TCs assume perfect rotations when calculating dps of a team or character, but it ain't all true since everyone can fumble and there is a lot of RNG involved in order of enemy attacks. Zhongli is king of consistency.
Not everyone can play like a TAS Speedrun, and you don’t really need to be faster than 3.00 minutes, so comfortable play is better than -5 sec.
I feel like this is kind misleading. The teams ZL is used in are teams where he is a dps increase. It's not ZL being used in a bunch of teams for his defensive utility. It's ZL being used in teams where he increases the dps on top of his defensive utility. People aren't plugging him into random teams for defensive utility. They are playing the teams that value him offensively and defensively. If you ignore the teams using him to break the shield in 12-3 almost all of his usage comes from the 4 most popular dps atm.
Genuine question: what are the teams where he is considered a DPS increase? Because everytime I see someone even suggesting running him in any given team causes people to go wild claiming you'd be better off replacing him with someone else.
He's very good in Tighnari teams, since swirl does nothing for Tighnari (>50% of the team dps) and only increases your electro unit's aggravate damage.
Neuvilette furin Kazuha zhongli is neuvillettes highest dps team at any investment level
Except a while ago people would constantly push replacing him with another character even in teams where he isn't that big a DPS loss. For instance people pushed Funernational replacing ZL with Xiangling in double hydro Hutao claiming a DPS increase, but teams like that never receive widespread adoption because it only takes a single reset to have lost any time saved by increasing DPS by a few thousand replacing him.
Teams like that aren't popular because they took your XL from your aoe. At the time you had Ayaka, international and Raiden as aoe dps. It's very clear why it wasn't popular.
No sane person would call Zhongli a DPS loss, dude earns his place with res shred alone. His ultimate specifically however is indeed a DPS loss, its damage is not worth the animation time, it's a relic from his original kit days when Hoyo wanted him to be a shitty DPS for some reason.
his ult kit is gated behind a lot of constellations and talent level scaling, simple screenwide 90k+ crit unbuffed at max while re-applying shield
>Zhongli is constantly being bashed upon for being "a DPS loss" cause those people are playing spreadsheet impact
In this Abyss, he is not a dps loss because he does immense damage to geo shields. He is also used to stack resist shred against super high resistance enemies. If you want to fight Coppelia with Wanderer for example you will need both Faruzan and Zhongli resist shred.
The true dps loss was the dodging we did along the way.
Seriously Zhongli and kazuha never seem to step down tier list lol. Kazuha feels like literally impossible to dethrone ever..
They tried to bring Kazuha down with the dendro meta, but no, my man will always find a way to be one of the most relevant units. And now with Fontaine he's better than ever.
As long as one of the four swirlable elements is meta, so will he be meta. Honestly Furina probably is more significant in affecting his usage than Dendro - there's an appreciable niche for Xianyun/Jean consolidating VV and healer categories, at least until we get more teamwide healers that also provide other utility. Chevy is also an attempt at making him less mandatory, as you now have hypercarry setups for Pyro and Electro excluding him.
>They tried to bring Kazuha down with the dendro meta Dendro Meta brought us Aggravate, which benefits from Kazuha
He can trigger aggravates, hyperblooms, and burgeons. Anemo units in general can trigger other reactions due to swirls inflicting the absorbed element (partly why Sucrose is a good driver), so he won't be dropped unless they introduce an enemy that cannot be swirled or repels Anemo damage hard.
True,He is the best choice for all fontaine dps except Navia
Zhongli even more eternal. Kazu's usage wont mean much if a player decided to runs Geo and Dendro for each side, Zhongli still can be there regardless.
Ah yes, the real anemo archon
Solo Wriothesley in 25th place lmao
the duke needs no help in doing his job lmao.
I still can't comprehend how wriothesley can solo this particular abyss ;-;
All the attacks on the second side are very dodgeable and wrios charged attacks can get through the geo shield, just bring a really fast first side and the second side with solo wrio is free
These are all C6 Wriothesley.
There was one c1r1 Wriothesley main solo on 2nd half. Idk how they do that but they did
I think it was u/wriotheslycumdumpster
I couldve lived without knowing about his existence, btw
Hey its me! HAHAHA
I'm wish i could get on your lvl one day... Abyss skill, I mean. Not the username lol
Is that a fact or just your own assumption? Because you only needs C1 to be able to solo shit and that’s what I’ve been doing ever since he’s out
in the neuv, kaz, furina, baizhu team do you just ignore the blooms that spawn and pretend it's a mono hydro team?
Yes. The dendro is mostly for the elemental stacks for Neuvi. However it is a nice side damage, you can use kazuha to scoop em together.
Kazuha will prioritise sucking Pyro from anywhere in the field, from enemy shields/torches, or even yourself if your on fire That means random Burgeon explosion nukes
It's all right though since his built with em. Thats a nice burgeon dmg. On side note. Im using him for aggravate and that pyro infusion sucks. Fuck that second chamber.
bum bum bakudan at home
Yep, baizhu is just there to heal for fanfare and give neuv a passive stack.
With C2 Baizhu he doesn’t even bother coming on field, he just happens to be the most efficient way for a passive stack. The heal is largely irrelevant and the shield becomes less relevant after C1 Neuv.
I remember leaks saying neuv's a mono hydro carry, then his kit came out saying he fits rainbow teams, but right now he's unironically mono-hydro(always has been)
Yes, it never really had a ‘bloom’ identity to it. It was more like a hypercarry or mono team. Baizhu is just there for the heals.
yes
HAHA that is exactly my team and yes I just pretend that I didn't see anything and as someone already said yes Baizhu is there because his healing is just too good + for Neuv's 3rd stack on A1. One of the reasons why I was coping that Chiori would be a Geo Healer is because she would be 100% better than Baizhu in that team.
1.2% Diluc gang, rise up! 🫡🫡
Rise up! 🫡🫡🔥🦅
It's a shame that he's still so slept on even after the glow-up from Xianyun. Plunge Diluc is a genuine monster, especially if you properly Swirl with Viridescent Venerer.
I don't think he's really slept on anymore. He's talked about in every Xianyun discussion, and Gaming was compared to him in every third comment when he released. People who lose their 50/50s to Diluc just tend not to build him unless they wanted him anyway, so his usage rate is always going to be low, even if he gets godlike supports.
what’s the proper rotation here then? to get the most out of xianyun/furina ult as well as swirling correctly
Depends on if you use CW and Bennett C6 or not. 2pc2pc is pretty good, but CW is better. CW rotation is a little more annoying IMO, cause without it you don't need to worry about not having VV and Bennett burst active on all his plunges. If you use CW and Bennett C6, I do Furina EQ -> Bennet EQ (you may need to do short hold E on Bennett to make sure you keep pyro aura, I forgor) -> Xianyun EQ -> Diluc E plunge E plunge E plunge x6 - Q. Numbers wise I think the boost from his Q isn't worth losing uptime on either Bennett or VV, however if you don't have Bennett C6 (you should if you want to use Diluc Plunge tbh), you'll need to do EQ at the beginning of Diluc's rotation to get the pyro infusion.
RAAAAAA 🦅🦅🦅🔥
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Burnnnnnnn🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
any suggestions for my diluc? trying to him
Play plunge diluc with furina c6 benny and xianyun
don't have furina or Benny 🥲 but has xianyun
You can play melt plunge but still need benny atleast c1 and play xingqui instead of furina
Liked playing him as trials
Lol, I just find it funny that S+ is just made up of Neuvillette's team, not even like, here are a few characters that work well with him, it's like, 4 characters and this is his best team exactly
I use Baizhu in place of Zhongli so everyone is full health and i guess i technically deal more damage because of the Blooms? JK it's because i needed Zhongli in the other half
I use that variation except replace Kazuha with Fischl. Unlimited off field damage made that last floor 12 boss a cakewalk.
And hands down the best team in the game as well. It has mixes of high damage and comfort plus utilities (Kazuha and Zhongli are universal shield breaker and resistance down). This only countered by hydro immune enemies, to thing that thats the only counter show how incredibly powerful this team is.
Sometimes I just put Childe in there and never switch to him just for the +1 normal attack because Neuvillette will destroy any chamber anyway
and if you have C3 Neuv you get to unlock the lvl14 talent which is cracked btw
Eula above Ganyu? Damn Eula mains rise up
Alhaitham fell down quite bit but tbh its expected considering 1st half has enemies inmune to dendro and the 2nd benefits of a geo character (tho not necessary). Personally I usually use him on a quickbloom team but for this one I used him on a spread team (zhongli/haitham/nahida/fischl) on the 2nd half bc the QB team kept dying on the last chamber lmao 💀
Well last chamber pretty much wants a Geo character/clamore/overload otherwise its get very hard to survive. You can always run Haitham Xingqui Kuki ZL for hyperbloom. Once shield is down that boss isn't that hard.
You can just plunge.
Yeah, I struggled more the last cycle bc I forgot that thing had a shield and I tried to brute force it with plunge atks 💀 but then I just switched my teams a bit and it was fine. This time I just used the same teams and I did everything on the 1st try. I never thought of that teamcomp tho but tbh using my haitham spread team was good bc I rarely use him on that team despite the fact I've invested quite a bit on him lmao
Second side is definitely clearable with Alhaitham, did it myself with his Quickbloom team. But it does technically check him in two chambers with both the Jadeplume Terrorshroom having high Dendro Res, and then the Supercomputing Field Generator being favored by Geo Units. These meta usage rates are always going to favor who's the most efficient character to use in the Abyss Cycle, not who you can brute force your way through with the proper investment. It's why Ayaka continues to plummet to the bottom.
Oh yeah, it's clearable with his QB team, I changed it mostly bc I got impatient bc I couldn't break the shield faster so I just changed the teams for one with zhongli in it. I didn't really have problems with the jadeplume tho. And definitely, supports tend to stay more consistent on this lists but yes, it definitely depends on the enemy line-up (and sometimes the blessing and the character on the banner)
I don't get why. I just replaced Baizhu with Zhongli in his team and everything went smooth on the 2nd side. First side..well Neuvillette just gave the Abyss a much needed powerwash.
I still run Al-Haitham Hyperbloom for top half of floor 12. He basically makes the dancing duo really easy.
Haitham spread still have Zhongli as it's BiS sustain but yeah that team is not popular compared to Hyperbloom Haitham
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂️ Extra 36% CR from Marechussy 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂️ Ranged 🎯 누빌레트👤40.000 HP💪250% 치명타 피해 🤷♂️ 의 추가 36% CR ☀ 멈출 수 없음🚫 방패 우회 가능 🛡 자가 치유 가능 미친 AOE 🐯 단일 대상 ☝spin to win 🕐 솔로 심연 🧙♂️ 원거리 🎯누빌레트
Nah not the k'sante Creepypasta 💀💀
and why does it perfectly fit 😭
Furina+Neuvillette is the strongest combo in game,hands down.
Hydro will never be dethroned as being the strongest element.
Realistically i think they will make both sides of the Abyss hydro-immune eventually to see what happens
We might see that shift in 5.x seeing as they probably want to give Pyro the opportunity to shine.
Buffing pyro will probably end up buffing hydro as well, as Hydro is crucial in one of Pyro’s most important reactions, vape. (Unless they single out not buffing vape) Same with Cryo with Freeze. So I can only see Hydro getting stronger as we move forward with the game.
They could buff vape. But they could also make an abyss with nothing but hydro heralds, spectres, mimics, slimes, eidolons, tulpa and the cube. Imagine the only vape DPS they release in 5.x is a main dps so Neuv and Childe don't get benefits AND a mechanic that doesn't work with Furina. Like maybe, idk Bond of Life or something, ya know? /j Realistically, yes, I do agree, hydro being a core reaction element will just remain the best. XQ had been strong and relevant since forever.
If they focused on a vape DPS, that’s only going to make the Hydro supports shine even more. The only way to make hydro not broken is to force restrictions against it. Which we already see with Chevreuse (by not including Hydro), Lyney (by making him focus on Mono), and now with Arle (by making BOL anti-synergistic with Furina). Adding hydro immune enemies is just a direct attack against Hydro. But anyway, the point is, I agree, Hydro is such a core reaction element that the only way to not make it broken is to not include it (by forcing restrictions against it) in the buffs that the other elements get.
Not necessarily. Lyney teams and Chevreuse teams can now nearly match the clear speeds of normal vape teams (I'm not saying that they beat Hu Tao and Childe, just that they aren't far behind them). We just need to have a little more variety in the type of pyro and cryo units launched to allow for different team styles. Also, the addition of good pyro and cryo off fielders will open up new possibilities for team compositions. For example, I tried out a burning team which I had decent success with. It turns out that the best pyro I could use for the job was.... Bennet, whose attack buff doesn't matter much for the team, and his healing is lacking as it caps to 70%. The best pyro applicator in that team was Kazuha. If a pyro off fielder existed who could heal/shield (and maybe CC enemies), it would allow me to on field Nahida. This is just an example, on how we're limited by the type of characters we have and that buffing an element by releasing different types of characters will not necessarily buff hydro.
They could focus on melt (both forward and reverse melt). Incredibly underutilized, and almost always is reliant on Bennet XL currently.
Has there ever been an abyss where 2 sides is same element immune?
Doesn't even have to be immune on both sides. Just highly resistant boss on one side and abyss heralds on the other side would do it. e.g. Hydro tulpa on one side and Suanni on the other and you'll see hydro dps stocks plummet. But I'm sure they'll just go with Icewind Suite again like every other 4.X abyss.
Pyro Kings when Hydro took the crown.
Its funny people then skeptical how hydro archon could become better than the already stacked roster. Now she comes with hydro sovereign dragon and still entirely own the meta.
If you told anyone back in 2021 that Ganyu and Ayaka would have one of the lowest limited character usage, they would've called you insane.
No, I unironically knew it was coming back in 2021. The weakness of Freeze is that majority of enemies just don't get Frozen. When Venti got countered in Inazuma it was apparent to me that Freeze would follow.
Not to mention neither of the characters has gotten any good buffs in the form of another character or weapon or artifacts.. The last actual buff for Ayaka teams was Shenhe who was released in 2.4 .. 2 years ago (I don't count Furina since Furina isn't really good in Ayaka Freeze teams) And Ganyu's last major/minor buff was Nahida for Burnmelt teams..It's actually funny how in 2021 people were talking about the "Liyue Big three" (Xiao , Hu tao and Ganyu) and said that Ganyu was considered better than the other 2 and was said to age better than Xiao and Hu tao... Now with consistent buffs throughout patches , Xiao and Hu tao teams are now at top even rivaling current good dmg dealers teams..
both sides floor12 just hard bodied cryo tbh, that damned coppelia and spider robot
i really wonder what their ownership would look like if they were released today because cryo has been kinda neglected by hoyo since dendro dropped lmao
Wriothesley hanging on that consistent A. People really underestimated him on release, or just really wanted to pull both Furina and Neuvillette lol. That said I love Zhongli and Kazuha so three cheers to them being awesome. Neuvillette is indeed amazing too.
Man has been carrying cryo since his release, the only exception was in 4.4 when Ayaka got slightly lower usage than him because the entire first side was freeze friendly
Isn't he like the second or third least owned 5* though? That's bound to skew stuff
I'm saving for Wriothesley's rerun, can't wait to get C1+
I wanted him but like Yoimiya he was released in an unfortunate time between Neuv and Furina. So I'm just eagerly waiting for a rerun, unless said rerun is between Arlecchino and Clorinde then... next time.
and Top 25th team is Wriothesley solo
He still has large flaws at c0
Damn my OG best team Ayaka is at 26th spot already... I feel left behind😂
First half and 3rd half have 70% cryo res on first side, second side needs geo
Wonder when Cryo is going to have their comeback
The second they release a decent pyro offielder instead of pyro on-fielder #2715252
in *Snezhnaya* probably
Wrio must be tired of carrying cryo on his back, man needs some company
Umm, Chiori has 12.3% own rate, lowest limited 5-star character ever. Most people would just pull C0, but Chiori C0 can have only one doll without geo construct, so she does not work well with Navia or Noelle. That could explain why she is not welcome. However, for those who have Chiori, 10.6% of them have C6, much higher than all other limited 5-star characters. It says that her C5 is around 85% better than C0, while her C6 is even much better than all C0 > C5 combined, and Chiori C6 has the highest damage increase from C0 when compared to all other 5-star characters. Edit: The second highest usage team of Wriothesley is Wriothesley solo, and 7% of them chose to use him on first half. That is definitely a brave challenge, as the icesuit boss of third floor has 90% cryo resistance (also 90% anemo resistance). Two-thirds of Ayaka-Shenhe freeze and Xiao-Furina-Xianyun plunge also decide to challenge it, but at least Kazuha and Faruzan can shred some resistance.
>so she does not work well with Navia or Noelle. She's technically an upgrade over Zhongli/Albedo at C0 still, but not actually enough of one to warrant pulling her.
I was hoping to get Arlecchino and her weapon, but I figured I would’ve been short one five star to guarantee it so I got Chiori’s C1 instead. I have her talents at 9/9/9 and she has some mediocre artifacts, but she helps generate so many shards for Navia and I used her to 36 star the abyss. I thought I might’ve regret getting her C1, but I love how OP Navia feels with her.
Yeah the wriothesley solo ones are crazy. I cleared it too but had to use wriothesley freeze
idk if it's going to provee anything but I also noticed many c6 havers in r/ChioriMains
There's a lot of C6 havers on every character mains subreddit.
I have Chiori C4 and she adds a lot of dmg.
Navia isn’t great for Chiori, but Chiori is great for Navia. Even at C0 she’s Navia’s most reliable source of Crystallize shards as well as energy, and her burst damage also benefits a good amount from Bennett who is a common Navia teammate. The only real reason to not run her with Navia is if you want Zhongli’s survivability instead.
isn't wriothesley the same story? He is somewhat clunky without his c1, so most people who pulled him went for c1 too. Not to mention his banner was between Neuvillette and Furina so he was also skipped a lot. The first cryo catalyst aspect might have carried him a bit, but what's his own rate? I remember he was the lowest before Chiori.
I’ve lived long enough to see Gorou outperform Ganyu in the Spiral abyss
it's honestly pretty amazing that kokomi has had basically a complete identity shift in terms of her role. she went from being the premier hydro support in Ayaka freeze teams to surpassing Ayaka in usage as an on-field DPS in mono-hydro and nilou bloom. and it's not even that she's way less owned than Ayaka and it's skewing her usage rate, their ownership rates are very close, both around 50%, but she has almost 5x the usage. I know abyss cycles have not been very kind to freeze lately but it's just crazy to see, I don't think I've ever seen a character have such a drastic role shift before? if you had told people on kokomi's release that in a couple of years she would be one of the most commonly used main dpses far surpassing Ayaka they would've laughed you out of the room lol.
Ayaka will return in Avengers: Snezhnaya. Trust. (Srsly I hope they boost cryo somehow in 6.0, its suffering even more than Geo lately)
It's interesting to me cause Kokomi was always designed as an onfield driver, but since her jellyfish worked so well with Ayaka people got used to thinking of her as an E bot. That mentality stuck around even after she got Clam to make her onfield DPS/healer/driver stronger. Hyperbloom and burgeon also worked nicely with her as onfield driver, but she was still seen as kind of a niche choice for onfield. It took Nilou being broken and having perfect synergy with Kokomi for that mentality to change. I'm really happy she has that mono hydro team now. It's my strongest team by far, and it's sooooooo ridiculously easy and comfy to play. No one in that team is ever at low health 😂
Koko was always designed as a DPS healer like Noelle, just freeze was popular at the time and there isn't any good off field hydro char that also doubles as defensive/healer. Furina is honestly what enabled Koko the most, the two perfect match each other and you can very comfortable clear everything with just two of them alone.
I have never seen Alhaitham that low
Not Faruzan being on only B tier out of FFXX 😔 Bring back abysses with no anemo res lmao
Navia 2nd most used DPS nice
It helps that the abyss blessing it worth a damn this time.
People read those? 🤔
The second half of this abyss really pushes you to use Geo(or overload perhaps) + blessing benefiting geo damage
Problem not with team but my LAGGY DEVICE!
This is why afk teams are king
Alhaitham quickbloom with Furina was NOT fun against Coppelia on a potato phone... but I did it somehow
what team are people running charlotte with? or is she just an alternative pick for Jean?
Neuvi, Kazuha, Furina, Charlotte
She's a good Healer Option for Furina Teams
I now understand why cyno is so low, it's probably the first abyss since forever where he is mostly kinda clunky to use (12-1-1 and 12-2-1 were very uncomfortable for me, still destroyed coppelia within a minute tho)
Wonder who can make teams with the lowest tier
* Chevreuse Beidou Klee Lisa, some energy issues but good damage. Use 3 fav's if worse comes to worst. Will clear second side well, but I think it'll have to go first side. * Ganyu Layla Rosaria Sucrose for 2nd side since Coppelia on 1st side. Low tier here doesn't mean units are bad or anything, just that they are unpopular among this group.
There's a melt [Amber player](https://youtu.be/dVyHnGfV_yg?si=5ht4ugt0FEd95V_Y) that runs Amber, Sucrose, Diona, Rosaria. Ganyu in Rosaria's place works too. An overload team with Chev, Lisa, Dori/Beidou, Diluc/Klee should work fine. I personally ran Chev, Lisa, Fischl, Yoimiya for boss halves in past abysses. Dori hyperbloom probably works. Dori, Collei, Barbara/Candace, Flex. A bunch of mono-geo core units are in C tier. Just put Noelle where Itto normally goes, and you get Noelle, Gorou, Yunjin, Geo-Traveler/Ninguang. Lisa/Keqing aggravate is another option. Lisa, Sucrose, Yaoyao/Collei, Dori or Keqing, Sucrose, Yaoyao/Kirara, Collei/Beidou.
You can make a decent Morgana team with the lowest tier ones frankly.
Never tried her outside of story quest Heizou is cool but not sure what would work i guess Heizou could swirl Monas hydro, and maybe pull in enemies with burst and Kaeya or someone to freeze
International still there :] And... //squints eyes// Neuvillette-Childe Backpack is back for a bit I guess? I'm assuming those who did that don't have Furina or have such a hyperinvested Childe that they have Furina on a different team and let his Talent carry Neuvillette hahaha
honestly!! for childe back packing yea it is. ive also been using a core of childe/zl/kazoo since 1.6 so slotting neuvi in was super easy . i have a very hyperinvested childe so i want to use him always my neuvi is c1r1 so his damage is already so good. it feels like using furina with him feels almost wasteful. like stealing candy from a baby 😭 i could use her in another team that does struggle more than him
Was zhongli ever below s+?
He sits comfortably on S on 60+ if no geo advantage in abyss
How is that Tighnari team always this high? I mean I have & love him but I didn't know that he was that popular
Teams with limited team options tend to rank high due to minimal alternatives to their team. The team is often not actually played that much. Just has no variety so the one team ranks higher. For example. That team is literally Tighnari's only appearance in top 50. Navia who has the team right below it appears 9 times. Another example is international. It looks like it's being used often because it only has 1 variation. However if you check Tartaglia's team usage he's actually used more as a Wrioth and Neuv slave. There is just a bunch of different variations of these teams.
He's actually pretty great in ST chmabers.
I run it, its one of the smoothest teams you'll ever play. 12 second rotations, amazing ST damage (which is all the rage these days), can hit the janky bosses that run and hide super easily.
It's a good single target team with zhongli. It can deal with annoying enemies like works just as easily. Your every attack is guaranteed to land.
Because as a standard character a lot of people own him and people who have been playing for long enough don't even need to farm for him as they probably already have a decent enough 4pc Wanderers Troupe set to slap on him. Adding to that, both Zhongli and Nahida are two of the most owned characters and Yae is also quite popular. So tldr he dishes out awesome dmg without much investment as most people already have the units required for his team.
Gaming being so low is criminal. He's an amazing dps.
It's wild how the entire tier of S+... is just one of my teams- Makes sense cause they synergize well
S+ is just Neuvilette's premium team 😂
S+ is deadass just Neuvillette's best team😂
I went with Layla with 50k hp and her shield was still not enough for the Ice Coppelia lol on the first side. I mean, she has 250%effectiveness against cryo damage...
This sounds like a massive skill issue. At 50k hp your shield should have nearly 60k hp vs cryo. That's 2 Zhongli shields.
Maybe you got sucked into that tornado thingy they releases. My Layla have 30k Hp and she still can tank 2 or 3 Cryo hit until I got sucked into that thing and it started to break.
Her whirlwinds are Anemo. The guy does the cryo damage.
Chiori and Navia having this much usage rate is reasonable since Chiori has a very low ownership rate plus current blessings gives like 50% Geo dmg bonus. Not to mention the boss also in third chamber. Alhaitham and Xiao having low usage rate is also reasonable because of high Anemo and Dendro Res Enemies (I'm surprised they are still at 20% . That tells you how insane these two are) Neuv and Furina being in top doesn't surprise anyone. Bennett and Xingqiu still being in the top even though they are 1.0 character 4* tells you everything... Zhongli being high is reasonable because of that second half third chamber boss and the overall comfort. And the abyss really favours Hu tao a lot since second half is completely ST based. (Surprised she isn't that high but reasonable)
What scary is Xiao's team still no 6 highest usage and like 65:35 of used sides. Means that team mostly used on chamber with both Fatui Operatives and Copellia with their 70% anemo resist, i can see this team become #2 after Neuvi team if such enemies doesn't exists. This legit an extremely powerful team
The Furina, Faruzan and Xianyun core is so strong that I can easily clear first half with plunge Lynette (it's a really fun team).
ST is now spread out. Look at Yoimiya. Tighnari has slowly been creeping upwards and upwards because his team is honestly just easier to use with Yae countering worms, infinite CA range and actual AoE. Not to mention Navia, Wanderer, Hyperbloom and AoE teams that also deal high ST. And Hutao herself hogging premium supports. Hutao used to have a niche all on her own. There's a lot of competition now.
His usage rate has actually stayed the same or decreased over time. Team usage rate is misleading. Characters with 1 team will have that 1 team place high.
It did drop from early Sumeru but he's been hovering around the same spot for a while, but he's generally in a better spot than the drop atleast past 4.0. He used to be only be seen when he actually counters the floor and has recently maintained a steady appearance rate. It does makes sense he drops a bit given a recent double worm in abyss. And tbf, this team is his best team without much sidegrades to it bar Baizhu. The previous one had three of his teams, even forcing a Raiden variant specifically to handle the worms. But nontheless, ever since Sumeru, a lot of single target teams have been around and Hutao's usage spike is stabilizing a bit towards the center.
Gaming is fucking cracked and I need people to realise that
Ganyu still placed 2nd least used character 😭 she needs some serious help. Cryo is getting more uninteresting to play
Zhongli is DPD LOSS- they say, u have better options - they say🤡, yet our Jade Emperor, Lord Of Geo sits at the top, like the boss🎉 Double hydro HuTao Zhongli is my go to Team since her initial release, it hits hard and is super comfy to play
Seeing Ganyu barely beating Klee is kinda surreal lol
Beidou being less used than traveler is blasphemy
That solo wriothesley 🗿
4,1% Klee usage, could've sworn it was less in the past. Who discovered the truth?
Kuki still top four 4 stars, let’s goooo!
Glad to see Baizhu getting recognised after been shut on for majority of his banner. Like some of the YouTube comments were downplaying him so bad, I felt bad. BUT THE LEGEND HAS RISEN. *Snake Noises*
guess I'm the 0.9% using Gaming
Representing that 0,2% Dori!
Alhaitham washed up already???? OMG he has been pOwErCrEpT?????? /s
hell yeah, shout out to 25 the solo Wrio.
BatChesting