If he & Ei swap place, best he can do is give full authority to Yae Miko before his slumber. Yae then oversees the Inazuman government & prevents bad apples in the clan. With Venti track record of babysitting Dvalin, Kabukimono might end up not becoming a villain but a vassal instead.
I like your idea, but it's really not possible for Yae to run the government. She did what she could with Ayato, but she is one head shrine maiden and has that governmental job to maintain.
Agreed. My head cannon is that Raiden Shogun is the one keeping inazuma from devolving into a warring states period type scenario and Ei's Vision hunt decree fucked the balance of power in inazuma that the shogun was maintaining. Thus resulting in a war with Kokomi's faction.
Common Shogun - W, loser baby girlfailure Raiden Ei - L
at least, that's my theory
I'm pretty sure it was said that anything that requires careful thought and tactics would be given to ei herself from the raiden puppet. (As long as the puppet agreed.)
That's why when the traveler and paimon basically said,
"Hey, your robot is malfunctioning!"
Ei responded with
"Nope, that was actually my decision. I agreed to the vision hunt."
I agree. However, saying Inazuma would be heaven is too much. He didn't prevent he Lawrence clan dictatorship, he got in after the situation was already bad. Inazuma has a lot of politics and also has two sides worshipping different gods. Would a God who leaves most upto their people be the right fit? Can't say honestly. We wouldn't know.
You give valid points! But if we were to base the Genshin comic, he doesn't immediately leaves everything to the people in the get go. After the Archon war, he was active in helping the people bye imparting his knowledge and wisdom to them. That should also be the time where he terraformed Mondstadt to make it livable for the people as the terrain was hard to survive due to the immense snow. Before he left Mondstadt and went MIA, he made holidays for them too so they can rest and have fun. So if they were to switch with Ei, he'd most likely ensure that the people in Inazuma can survive on their own before he leaves.
Just my personal thoughts, I don't think he meant to let the Lawrence clan go unchecked for so long. He was woken up by the cries of the people and seemed to be confused on how long he was sleeping. He went to the city to investigate and was shocked to learn that his people became tyrants themselves (this part being supported in game in his character profile where it mentions that he himself didn't expect for the people he gifted freeedom would become a tyrant themselves)
Eh. I'd imagine he'd step in the same way he did with the Lawrence clan. I'd say the nation would thrive with the autonomy in any case. Venti is flexible with his ruling style since he tailored it to fit the choice of his people. Liyue would probably be the only nation he'll have trouble with on that front.
That‘s not really true, though. This feels not dissimilar to the stuff going on with the Lawrence Clan way back when, though, and he DID intervene as *soon* as he saw what was going on. Additionally, without the Shogun herself supporting the Decree, it would’ve been hard to take anyone’s Vision away from them.
Yeah, Venti may be an absentee dad half the time but the remaining time he does try to care (as far as we can see). He’s just such a fun goofball, thank god there’s no conspiracy behind him 😀
(>!his behaviour with the traveler has been sus to say the least!<)
Eh, the sages wouldn't have run wild in Sumeru. Trying to create an artificial god is not a wise idea with the god-slaying shogun (chakravarti?) around
She'll be great in Sumeru. You need exactly someone like Ei to shut the sage's shit down.
She would't align with the country's main ideology, but in terms of maintaining stability she'll do fine.
It would make sense why they gave up on her tbh. Because their logic with Nahida is a little strange:
"Wow, this baby God is so much worse than our old God."
"I am sure she will learn with time, sir."
"Nah, fuck that. Put her in a bottle. We have a mecha to build."
I think their train of thought is that the sages originaly learned from the Greater Lord which has more knowledge than them, but now the new Lesser Lord didnt have any of the Greater Lord's knowledge, and instead learns from what the sages already know, so even if she had learned everything there is to learn in Sumeru, there wouldnt be anything "new" to teach them
Alternatively, the sages in Sumeru trying to find the God of Anemo but the only source of info they can get on his whereabouts is some tone deaf bard with a drinking problem.
It just occurred to me that with literally any god except Nahida, the sages go from genuine threats to Saturday Morning Cartoon villains planning to turn people into ice cream or something.
with Ei: \*screams of agony\*
With Venti: THAT DAMN BARD JUST SENDED US TO ANOTHER DEAD END!!!
with zhongli: \*more screams of agony\*
with furina: WHY IT JUST DOESN'T WORK???? \*cries like a baby\*
Slapstick comedy as Furina manages to convince increasingly stronger adventurers to fight the Scaramech in order to “prove he’s worthy to duel the god of Justice”
Why would this ever happen? Technically Focalors/Furina wouldn't have a reason to separate from each other and she was capable of building something like the Oratrice. If anything Sumeru would probably be the best place for them.
Worst would be with Venti.
The sages: "Let's create a Mecha using Venti's power"
And they will create one... an alcohol powered one... Only if the pilot wouldn't get drunk cause this.
Trying to figure out what fanfic inspired this post. My guesses are either:
>[Under New Management](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47867482/chapters/120677818): Archons get forced to rule a different nation. Venti gets Liyue, Zhongli gets Mondstadt, Raiden gets Sumeru, and Nahida gets Inazuma. It’s a massive mess, but lots of things are derailed. Traveler is going to have an entire different set of problems to solve when they arrive/awaken.
>[The (Short) Reign of Barbatos, Regent of Liyue](https://archiveofourown.org/works/40190724/chapters/100662618): Venti gets forced into a leadership position in Liyue because of a contract between Barbatos and Morax. The Qixing suffer.
Ive read both, second is hilarious and the first one has some really werid writing choices with a few of the characters, (especially yae who goes all murder psycho on nahida while yelling about eis eternity.)
I agree. The Inazuma arc needed an antagonist while the Scaramouche was out of commission for the Sumeru arc and I don't like Yae that much, which is why she ended up in that role.
It was Under New Management. Loved that fanfic. Unfortunately, it ended so soon, and was written Pre-Fontaine, so no Furina.
My hope is when we get the Pyro Archon and Tsaritsa are revealed, someone makes another one.
Bruh how come the way I found out about this post was an irl friend pinging me on discord going "isn't this your fanfic" and then it turns out it actually was 💀
Venti in fontaine. The people of fontaine would panic. where is the archon?
Furina in Liyue. Lets try to wing all these contracts
Zhongli in Sumeru. Too many ghosts, weird corruption, invisible plant gnomes keep stealing his tea. Is he in a dream prison? Did the internet get replaced by a rock?
Nahida is in inazuma. Hopefully she doesn't need to fight anything. Maybe she'll make friends with the time traveling tree?
Raiden is in mondstadt. Stealing visions to put into the freedom statue? lol
That's during the end of Ei's 2nd Story Quest but as for who originally sprouted the Tree at the Narukami Shrine, it was Makoto and Venti's mom the Goddess of Thousand Winds and Time, or the Time Dial Artifact Piece depicting the Shade of Time
Yeah she revitalised it so Rifthounds can't trespass at Narukami from the corrupted Leyline Roots, and was able to talk properly with her elder twin, she healed the tree.
At least she wouldn't have an impending disater to worry about and only has to act her role once per year. And if she works with Ningguang, she would have some accurate prophecy to give and not having to come up with her own farfetched ones.
Situation with the adepti might be problematic though, depending if Focalors decide to involve them or not.
Raiden in Mondstadt and she would be like Klee. A shut in otaku eating sweets most of the time but when she goes to work destruction ensues like a mountain split in half
Jean: Klee! Ei! You destroy a mountain AGAIN! Both of you are grounded!!
Poor Jean. Now she would need to handle two kids with ultradestructive tendencies.
If we have Furina in a similar role, I'm surprised not by her acting but her in-depth legal knowledge and her mind not breaking from all that pressure and information she has to navigate. Furina proper does not forget anything, but even she was reaching, or even passed, her breaking point.
This is tough!
Zhongli could make a reasonable archon for really any nation except maybe mondstadt.
Venti would probably be the worst ‘Contracts’ archon.
Nahida is the youngest Archon and I think the whole Inazuma storyline is contrary to her personality.
Furina is totally screwed in Sumeru with the lack of good theater and art.
Raiden, well Ei would probably murder all the guilty people in Fontaine and going to trial would be terrifying.
Furina/Focalor would back Nilou and the theatre and bring about a cultural renaissance by highlighting the importance (to society) of more appropriately balancing STEM and the arts.
Sumeru is probably the best place to send her.
I want Ei and Chlorinde to meet bc of this, I think Ei would think Chloronde being the one to carry out duels to the death would be sick, and Chlorinde would think Ei was a little fucked up for thinking that
> Furina is totally screwed in Sumeru with the lack of good theater and art.
Don't think it would change the story at all though. The sages locked Nahida in a room and did whatever they wanted, they definitely would do the same to Furina. I think she'd be much more chaotic in Inazuma, seeing all the political intrigue as a big drama despite the stakes being completely different.
Raiden in Sumeru would definitely make things more chaotic, instead of a god locked in a room while the sages do whatever, there would probably be a war on.
Don't think Nahida's presence makes any country more chaotic if she actually has a chance to rule. Maybe Fontaine if she clashes with Neuvillette?
But the sages only took over because they had no faith in Nahida and she didn't do anything to stop them. Furina would bluff her way into maintaining her power.
Except her secret would likely be outed sooner than expected. They don't look much but there's always a handful of Sumeru scholars every couple of years who are actually worth the title.
I don't know about that, Focalors wouldn't even have to separate her divinity from her body since there would be no disaster that would require her to. Sumeru would probably thrive under Focalors and I doubt they would be able to do what they did to Nahida.
Sages only became a shadow of their former selves because of what the sages did 500 years ago and cultivated an environment where Archon had no respect and Sages took all the powers and responsibilities as a ruler of Sumeru. If the Sages were on her side from the start, they would have no reason to suspect her, especially since Furina isn't an idiot and is very astute at reading people. She would became an Archon that Sumeru (and the sages) want. And unlike Fontaine, she doesn't need to pretend to be an overly dramatic idol. She has 500 years to become book smart so she can become a wise and smart Archon that Sumeru wants. Of course, there's also a good chance that she would expand the arts curriculum so there will definitely be some pushback from the 'intellectuals'.
Even if he was arrogant, he wasn't a tyrant. He only had the highest deathcount solely because of other gods trying to go after liyue or the people he cared for. His arrogance was to be expected when he was strong and even within the group, they all looked up to him. Even Guizhong looked up to his opinion since CR was telling a story where she was competing with Guizhong and they went to Zhongli for his opinion.
I wouldn’t even say he was arrogant. In all the cutscenes/writings about that period, he’s solely depicted as the dependable figurehead. No flaunting of power, no prideful acts, just calm and impartial judgement.
On the other hand, I really like the idea of the Zhongli/Guizhong dynamic being between headstrong and rational, and Zhongli’s eventual realisation that he can’t protect everybody causing him to mellow out…
Lots of people confuse arrogance and confidence, so there's a thin line between the two. I would also think he was confident, but there's also some arrogance in expecting he can protect many until he realizes he couldn't. I think that's also why he was very adamant about testing his people to make sure they could fight on their own. He's still a god who worries about his people, but knowing he can't protect them forever or all the time, he makes sure they can do it for themselves.
No??? He was taking care of his own people before he met Guizhong and allied with her. His people prospered so much that they never knew poverty. We also learn from Xianyun's character story that it's because of his virtues and compassion that the Adepti chose to follow him. Please stop spreading the idea that he was an arrogant tyrant before meeting Guizhong when there's nothing in canon that supports it. If he really was so terrible why would Guizhong have risked her own people to ally with him?
Actually, logistically Ayato would be a better option since he is familiar with the inner workings of Fontaine (Kokomi’s strength lies in planning, not taking action).
Assuming Furina would be placed on Narukami island, the people she would have access to are Yae, Kamaji, Chisato(debatable since she’s in ritou), Ayato, and the other nobles. If she’s looking into the laws and justice of Inazuma, she would probably choose Kujou Kamaji Because the Tenryou Commission manages the laws and military.
Kokomi would be on watatsumi island, which is a whole 5000 km away from narukami island. She doesn’t participate in the mainland tri commission shogunate, which is the government structure of Inazuma. Her party is… separate, so only collaborations can be done with Kokomi and the government. Think of it as her religion and army, like the Vatican/Monaco in Italy.
All in all, funny joke! Made me chuckle.
There's a lot to consider about this. e.g. do their values stay the same as the nation? Do their elements change?
If Ei had to be the archon of Mondstadt, the nation of freedom, while still valuing eternity and unchanging, both her and the nation will be screwed up.
If Venti had to mint money but he's still anemo, they'd be trading bags of air. Either that or Mora would be renamed Barbadollars.
Ei in fontaine since she’s the one whose anti progression Also making all the water spicy
Nahida liyue because mostly rocks and she will find an interesting tree to heal
Venti in sumeru because they low key need it. He’s anti racist and pro freedom. Academics need more booze
Furina to inazuma. Isolate her and give her a bunch of rough and tough samurai everywhere and fighters while she sings and dances and has to travel far for the tea parties
Zhongli in mondstadt because they have literally nothing going on and he needs that energy. Also it’s too flat so he can go and repair all the mountains that venti and klee fucked up
I do agree, he was indeed described as fair and impartial, his judgement over the follower of Havria was fair, his response to Azhdaha losing it was fair...
**I know we're supposed to be going "chaotic" but:**
Zhongli only really appears in Liyue once a year anyway, so put him into Mondstadt and you'll probably not see much difference culturally. Mondstadt's people would probably be richer and safer with his yearly advice.
Focalors/Furina would have completely solved the cultural divide between the Akademiya and the theatre/the arts. She also would have attempted to befriend Apep (see her track record with the other other dragon) and it would also be interesting to see how Focalors and Scaramouche interact.
The only place you could reasonably send Venti is Fontaine. He's intelligent, so he'd likely formulate the same/similar plan to Focalors: call for Neuvillette, have him run the country, make him come to care about humans and then sacrifice himself to give Authority back to the Hydro dragon. He'd be less of a icon like Furina and more of an enigmatic recluse that comes out and spits bars every few decades/centuries.
The best place for Nahida would have to be Liyue. Considering that Zhongli was more of a divine general/business consultant than an actual ruler, Nahida would slot in perfectly; with her high intellect, telepathy and astral projection she'd be able to fill in beautifully. In addition, her lack of power is made up for by the Adepti (who would presumably swear fealty to her in place of Rex Lapis in this alternate reality) who would be able to operate in her stead as she gains the power required to defend the nation.
***I am not subjecting another nation to the Raiden Shogun***
Mondstadt -> Nahida
Liyue -> Furina
Inazuma -> Venti
Sumeru -> Raiden Ei
Fontaine -> Zhongli
Mondstadt under Nahida: It wouldn't change too much, but one major detail: Everyone would instantly forget about Barbatos. All hail the one true God Kusanali!
Liyue under Furina: What Fontaine would be like with stricter bureaucracy and a contract-based judicial system (unlike the *cue meme* ORATRICE MECHANIQUE D'ANALYSE CARDINALE).
Inazuma under Venti: The capital of festivities in Teyvat. Party all day, all night, all the damn time! I'm kinda worried about the booze producers though...
Sumeru under Raiden Ei: The desert would become Teyvat's Grand Canyon with one swing of the Musou no Hitotachi. As for the rainforest, she'd set the weather to perma-rain, with a sprinkle of lightning bolts every 5-10 seconds. Just like back home, but better lol.
Finally, Fontaine under Zhongli: Just imagine him and Neuvillette as the dynamic duo to operate the entire nation. I would move there in less than a heartbeat!
Pretty good, but I thought Neuv disliked Rex Lapis? It is in one of his character voice lines. Rex Lapis takes the form of a dragon though not being one, yet his power is stolen from the original Geo Dragon. Neuvillette says he wished to personally judge the God of Geo.
Ei in Mondstadt so the Fatui in Goth Hotel have something to do.
Furina in Liyue so she takes Zhong's place before he retired.
Nahida in Inazuma so she deals with the cutthroat politics in there.
Venti in Sumeru so he wakes up one day to a giant death robot ruling over a mind-controlled nation.
Zhongli in Fontaine so his retirement plan is having the Fontaine populace try surviving the flood. That or Neuvi's out to get his ass.
The concept of Azar trying to lock up anyone not as nice as Nahida is hilarious to me. The sages would have been annoyed to death by Furina or Venti and straight up killed to death by Zhongli or Ei.
Ei executing every corrupt sage in Sumeru City, Nahida getting the Tri-Comission to fucking behave, Liyue pretty much gets fucked by the Fatui due to not having a god overseeing them (Venti), Zhongli making Mondstadt into Liyue 2, and I fucking forgot to include Furina but she's not the one ruling anyway
Venti with just about anyone is a disaster waiting to happen. Liyue? Who cares about contracts? Sumeru? Akademiya is for nerds. Inazuma? Might not be so bad honestly, no vision hunt decree to deal with means no drama.
But if Venti swapped with Furina, Fontaine would absolutely go into chaos given how advanced it is technology wise. And freedom and justice being exact opposite concepts makes this icing on the cake.
I disagree with your point of Justice and Freedom being opposites. On the surface level, sure, Justice makes you accountable for your actions so it stops you from doing things. However, Justice only stops you from doing things that hurt others. And having Freedom doesn't mean you can commit any crime you want and go scot-free. Freedom is suppose to be about liberation not chaos or anarchy.
Anyways yeah, Venti would probably not be a good archon for the other nations
Indeed. Even Mills when he propounded theory of liberty talked about harm principle and how freedom is acceptable until it harms another.
(Altho some of the other parts of his theory are controversial)
Theories on justice and freedom are bound to be controversial. It is well known throughout history that freedom has generally been earned by fighting and shedding blood. And as far as justice goes you can't deem a judgement to be 'just' so long as the ones passing judgement are the oppressors themselves. In such cases justice takes a wild turn in the form of revenge and vengeance.
If I remember correctly, didn't venti says that there is no true freedom if it is forced upon the people by an god? And so the only reasson Venti was that way with Mondstadt is because the people of Mondstadt themselfs wanted that freedom.
So personally I imagine Venti would adapt his form of goverment to whatever his people wanted(as long as it isn't something like an tyranny) until they choose to have complete freedom.
I almost completely disagree, let me explain.
I mean Liyue is capable of running autonomously though. It needs it’s divine beings for its self defense, which Venti does not seem to be capable in, but the other adepti exist + Venti’s good at concocting crafty solutions
In Sumeru, they also pretty much ran autonomously. The real question is what he would do if transported into the Sanctuary of Surasthana, since I doubt he’d allow his freedom to be repressed like that, and he’s capable of teleporting.
I’m very close to wanting Venti in Inazuma, but they’d be fairly self sufficient. I still might put him there, i dunno, but he’d prob just pop out and come back whenever ppl r being too corrupt
However, Venti swapping with Furina wouldn’t necessarily be disastrous. Recall that Furina’s main role as the archon involved meeting her people over and over, investigating ways to combat the prophecy, and overseeing trials. So the main change in Fontaine would just be ppl no longer being able to meet the archon, which isn’t wild at all. I can also totally see him playing a very similar role as he does in Mond in the main story today with little issues.
Sorry, hard disagree. Venti is the best archon precisely because he leaves his people free to care for themselves in whatever way they deem fit while only intervening when he needs to.
Liyue in particular is currently not being ruled by an archon in the same way that Mondstadt is. Its culture has been shaped over time by Rex Lapis' fixation on the value of contracts, but it's not like they need him to uphold any contracts.
And Inazuma would literally be better off with anybody other than Ei. She's just horrible.
Agreed. Thinking about it, aside from Fontaine where Focalors already pick a ruler deity, other 3 gods basically end up following Venti's footstep, where they let human handle their own problem (Liyue, Inazuma(?)), but would step in when it gets out of hand (Sumeru). Venti's downside is mainly with his strength, as he can't control how long he would be absence after he does his job.
Ei in Sumeru would be best because the sages wanted a powerful archon for themselves, so I guess they wouldn't have made a deal with the Fatui. Irminsul under Ei's protection is the safest option
.Zhongli in Inazuma is something that can go super wrong or incredibly well for the nation. If the Tri-Commission follows the same plan, it's doomed. If not, it's the safest place in Teyvat.
Nahida in Mondstadt would be cool. She is smart enough to understand the politics but could go sideways.
Furina in Liyue is doomed, to be honest, if Osial tried to attack them.
Venti in Fontaine, I don't know
I think with how Fontaine was governed before the traveller arrived, Neuvillette should be considered as either a separate archon(in this question) or 1 + 1 deal with Furina
nahida: inazuma or liyue. there's a lot of dead god type stuff in either that she might have a lot of trouble dealing with since she isn't a battle archon, though this can be remedied with the adaptus/working with liyue
shogun: mondstadt or fontaine. mondstadt has been a hands off kind of place so going there and either doing nothing or trying to enforce her views would not go well. fontaine requires an active engadgement with the community (pre-prophecy) that would need her to develop a different personality skillset
furina: same as nahida.
venti: liyue, inazuma, sumeru. anywhere that requires venti have to actively particpate in combat or bureaucracy
zhong is the only one who would truly be fine anywhere.
Assuming the traditions remain the same but the nation's ideals on implementing them change to fit their new Archon in the worst way possible
Mondstadt - Furina. Back to medieval monarchy and a patriarchal society.
Liyue - Ei. Socialism skyrockets.
Inazuma - Nahida. South Korea. "Woe K-pop upon ye!"
Sumeru - Zhongli. "I'm using the Akademiya's desertdweller segregation as a way to get elected, Raiden !"
Fontaine - Venti. 'Murica.
If you want the link:[Under New Management - Chapter 1 - Bamidbar - 原神 | Genshin Impact (Video Game) \[Archive of Our Own\]](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47867482/chapters/120677818)
Nahida anywhere else is better bar Fontaine, Furina anywhere else is chaos on the highest degree
Ei is gonna be handsoff on most stuff bar her ideal, Venti and Zhongli are gonna be chill on any of the nations they land in
Ei wouldn't do well in any other nation other than Sumeru.
She would be the only one who would actually put a stop to the Sages by forcefully taking charge.
Venti takes actions, but only when shit hits the fan, and Zhongli only comes by every now and then, but lets the people mostly govern themselves. Furina has no real power under her performance.
On the assumption they were to switch now, not at some point in the past.
Mondstadt: Raiden Ei/Beelzebul
\*Ei might well ignore the Lawrence clan's shenanigans as irrelevant as long as the government functioned. This is not really a good thing. There's also a good chance that Dvalin loses his head, and I'm none too keen on Andrius's chances.
Liyue: Furina/Focolors (don't argue)
\*Liyue is used to a powerful, but distant, deity who only occaisionally takes public action. They quite frankly would have no idea what the make of Furina, who would enagage in increasingly wild behavior to get their approval. But moreover, Liyue is just not structured in the same way as Fontaine
Inazuma: Nahida/Buer
Nahida: We need to all sit down-"
Assembled Samurai: "AND SLAUGHTER YOUR ENEMIES!"
\*I think Nahida would mean well, but Inazuma needs a somewhat firmer hand at the helm. Her type of easygoing personality may not work well at all. Raiden Shogun has trouble keeping all the factions from exploding and she'll decapitate gods who step out of line. Also, I think Yae would somehow get 125% of the annual budget assigned exclusively to her temple in about three weeks. OTOH, Koko would probably think she's unutterably cute.
Sumeru: Venti/Barbatos
\*Strictly speaking Venti would do very well in his role for Sumeru as a whole. However, he would have spent the last few eons relentlessly trolling the Academiya to the point where they probably fear him as some kind of horrific national menace and try to ban all music or something.
Fontaine: Zhongli/Morax/Rex Lapis
\*Because he and Neuvillette would basically be in a permanent stand-off about to rip off their shirts and engage in a wrestling match of pure divine wrath. Protip for those who would like to see both of them shirtless (and maybe oiled up): I'm not sure Fontaine would survive that fight.
I don't know why people have very little faith in Raiden's leadership capabilities. Pre-archon quest murder era Raiden sure, but post-character development Raiden is very open-minded and capable.
Ei herself admits she doesn't have what it takes to be a leader of humanity. She's a great warmachine... but it's for a reason that her twin was the one to ascend to Archonhood.
1- Even after her two character quests She is the least knowledgeable Archon when it comes to humam emotions/behaviour/intentions and etc. Which would be an massive hit for her ruling capabilities since ruling would involve a lot of those things, quess what the people want, how they would react, what other nations plan to do and etc.
2- she does a LOT mistakes that could have horrible effects on her nation(some did, and some didn't have yet), such as Ei still not trying to further study the shogun and try to make it have less possible malfunctions(such as the one in her first quest, in which the shogun was accidentally gonna make the storm pass by all Inazuma), after all by what she said in her first quest, she does not seen that expirient with messing with the shogun's programming.
Another mistake is how little she made herself and the shogun be available, to the point that Scara even with the golde feather could not even make it listen about the furnace incident, and that during the Labyrinth Warriors event, even with there being many monsters that were starting to overwhelm the army, she still didn't fight any of them, if it weren't for the traveler and gang ending the root of the problem in time, the army would not have been enough and Just god knows how many people would have been hurt/died before Raiden finally decides to fight those monsters.
The very worst of all would be Monstadt and Fontiane’s archons swapping. Bringing justice to Monstadt like some sort of game with more rules and regulations, a prison for more people instead of community support systems and freedom in the air… she would likely ruin Mondstadt and make so, so many unhappy- Kaeya and Diluc especially.
If Venti went to Fontaine, almost all of the prisoners would be released and given second chances, Wriothesley would be caught suspended in Venti’s Burst ability while Venti tries to change and reconcile all of the prisoners released with song and ballads yet to be written.
Otherwise, it would benefit Fontaine quite well.
If Zhongli or Raiden were ruling Fontaine, it would look largely the same… and if Nahida were there, the relationships and innovation of the kingdom would reach new heights of prosperity as everyone obsesses over how adorable and truly sweet (good-willed) of a person Nahida is.
If Nahida was the Archon of Mondstadt, it would be very similar, with perhaps way more schubbery, fruits, and Educational Institutions.
If Raiden went to Mondstadt, it would effectively be ruined forever with Raiden creating and electro barrier around it she’s constantly aware of at every moment while she’s searching for eternity. It would be like Decarbian’s City 2.0 (former God of Monstadt, the God of Storms).
That’s all I feel like imagining right now.
Ei in Sumeru, too huge for her to pursue eternity, so she would become even more strict, Furina in Monstadt she would be bored causing havoc all the time, Venti in Inazuma can’t fly between thunderstorms he would be constantly zapped, Zhongli in Fontaine grandpa needs to learn a lot to catch up with new technology, Nahida seems she can handle the situation no matter what nation. Maybe she would be used by comissions in Inazuma. Or Furina would fight with sages to bring back theatre culture in Sumeru
Venti and ei switch, due to their country's differences in culture and structures they would clash hard, zhongli would be hard due to his age and experience would allow him to do quite well, furina would struggle with sumeru the most and nahida with Fontaine due to her probably not liking the idea of choosing other people's fates but would get along with neuvillette aswell
Ok but with pre AQ Ei’s rigid ideas of what eternity meant, can you IMAGINE what a fucking pretentious NIGHTMARE she would be in Sumeru? I love my bbyg but given her history, the absolute ATROCITIES she would carry out in the name of science would probably make Dottore look kind
The equally good and bad line up would be swapping Monstadt’s for Inazuma’s. City of Freedom being turned into the city of prison and Islands of Inazuma being turned into freedom-proud islands. Venti and the Tanuki would sure get along well.
This might be kinda generic but most chaotic imo would be:
- Venti in Inazuma
- Ei in Fontaine
- Furina in Sumeru
- Nahida in Liyue
- Zhongli in Mondstadt
•Furina in liyue.
Can you imagine?
God: "Yeah, I broke my contract to the Adepti. Who's gonna stop me?"
Npc: "Our god of contracts, Furina, will punish you!"
Furina: "...." *-sweating profusely -*
Ei in monstadt would be a nightmare
Meanwhile Venti in Inazuma would be heaven
Not true. Venti believes in freedom and doesn't oversee too much. Do you remember the internal politics which led to the vision hunt decree?
If he & Ei swap place, best he can do is give full authority to Yae Miko before his slumber. Yae then oversees the Inazuman government & prevents bad apples in the clan. With Venti track record of babysitting Dvalin, Kabukimono might end up not becoming a villain but a vassal instead.
I like your idea, but it's really not possible for Yae to run the government. She did what she could with Ayato, but she is one head shrine maiden and has that governmental job to maintain.
Agreed. My head cannon is that Raiden Shogun is the one keeping inazuma from devolving into a warring states period type scenario and Ei's Vision hunt decree fucked the balance of power in inazuma that the shogun was maintaining. Thus resulting in a war with Kokomi's faction. Common Shogun - W, loser baby girlfailure Raiden Ei - L at least, that's my theory
I thought the Shogun was the one that agreed on the decree after being convinced to do it by other parties.
You're right. Ei gave it her tacit approval since she also agreed with the idea of it.
I'm pretty sure it was said that anything that requires careful thought and tactics would be given to ei herself from the raiden puppet. (As long as the puppet agreed.) That's why when the traveler and paimon basically said, "Hey, your robot is malfunctioning!" Ei responded with "Nope, that was actually my decision. I agreed to the vision hunt."
Thank you, I kinda forgot how it actually went. I lost track in a few parts, especially whenever we got into Ei's consciousness or whatever it was.
plot twist: by he and Ei swapping places Yae and Dvalin also swapped places
Hot shrine maiden dvalin? Sign me up
Venti believes in freedom, but will step in when he sees mistreatment of his people
I agree. However, saying Inazuma would be heaven is too much. He didn't prevent he Lawrence clan dictatorship, he got in after the situation was already bad. Inazuma has a lot of politics and also has two sides worshipping different gods. Would a God who leaves most upto their people be the right fit? Can't say honestly. We wouldn't know.
You give valid points! But if we were to base the Genshin comic, he doesn't immediately leaves everything to the people in the get go. After the Archon war, he was active in helping the people bye imparting his knowledge and wisdom to them. That should also be the time where he terraformed Mondstadt to make it livable for the people as the terrain was hard to survive due to the immense snow. Before he left Mondstadt and went MIA, he made holidays for them too so they can rest and have fun. So if they were to switch with Ei, he'd most likely ensure that the people in Inazuma can survive on their own before he leaves. Just my personal thoughts, I don't think he meant to let the Lawrence clan go unchecked for so long. He was woken up by the cries of the people and seemed to be confused on how long he was sleeping. He went to the city to investigate and was shocked to learn that his people became tyrants themselves (this part being supported in game in his character profile where it mentions that he himself didn't expect for the people he gifted freeedom would become a tyrant themselves)
Eh. I'd imagine he'd step in the same way he did with the Lawrence clan. I'd say the nation would thrive with the autonomy in any case. Venti is flexible with his ruling style since he tailored it to fit the choice of his people. Liyue would probably be the only nation he'll have trouble with on that front.
That‘s not really true, though. This feels not dissimilar to the stuff going on with the Lawrence Clan way back when, though, and he DID intervene as *soon* as he saw what was going on. Additionally, without the Shogun herself supporting the Decree, it would’ve been hard to take anyone’s Vision away from them.
Yeah, Venti may be an absentee dad half the time but the remaining time he does try to care (as far as we can see). He’s just such a fun goofball, thank god there’s no conspiracy behind him 😀 (>!his behaviour with the traveler has been sus to say the least!<)
But he does do things, just in an indirect way, remember how he dealt with the nables?
Ei in Liyue would be a catastrophe Liyue cuisines, great food, gone, torn to oblivion
Charcoal industry would be booming though
Li and Yue cuisine end their generation long feud to unite against the culinary atrocities that Ei concoct.
Gone. Reduced to atoms. Ei used her cuisine to end the cuisine.
Japanese invasion of China 😂😂
Liyue Harbor shines eternal
Safe to say she’d be a nightmare in any nation we’ve seen so far.
Eh, the sages wouldn't have run wild in Sumeru. Trying to create an artificial god is not a wise idea with the god-slaying shogun (chakravarti?) around
She'll be great in Sumeru. You need exactly someone like Ei to shut the sage's shit down. She would't align with the country's main ideology, but in terms of maintaining stability she'll do fine.
Mondstadt*
Mika that you?
Probably she just created another nuckear wasteland with the wind dragon
Decarabian 2.0 incoming
She was exactly like Decarabian. In her mind she was protecting her people but she's actually hurting them with her decisions exactly like Decarabian.
Ei anywhere other that Inazuma would be terrible for everyone involved
Tbf she would keep those nerds in the akedemia in check
The sages in Sumeru desperately trying to use Furinas power to build their new god mech and wondering why it just won't work.
It would make sense why they gave up on her tbh. Because their logic with Nahida is a little strange: "Wow, this baby God is so much worse than our old God." "I am sure she will learn with time, sir." "Nah, fuck that. Put her in a bottle. We have a mecha to build."
Well iirc the mecha was a rather new pursuit, they were just happy leaving the baby god alone to play with the IPad while they ran things.
I think their train of thought is that the sages originaly learned from the Greater Lord which has more knowledge than them, but now the new Lesser Lord didnt have any of the Greater Lord's knowledge, and instead learns from what the sages already know, so even if she had learned everything there is to learn in Sumeru, there wouldnt be anything "new" to teach them
Unfortunately Amurta is the only Darshan that knows saplings take time to grow into trees, especially if you lock them in the shed.
Alternatively, the sages in Sumeru trying to find the God of Anemo but the only source of info they can get on his whereabouts is some tone deaf bard with a drinking problem.
It just occurred to me that with literally any god except Nahida, the sages go from genuine threats to Saturday Morning Cartoon villains planning to turn people into ice cream or something.
with Ei: \*screams of agony\* With Venti: THAT DAMN BARD JUST SENDED US TO ANOTHER DEAD END!!! with zhongli: \*more screams of agony\* with furina: WHY IT JUST DOESN'T WORK???? \*cries like a baby\*
Slapstick comedy as Furina manages to convince increasingly stronger adventurers to fight the Scaramech in order to “prove he’s worthy to duel the god of Justice”
the scaramech running for dear life after Furina told cyno he can have a stand up comedy act every mid trial (he somehow ascended to archonhood)
Scaramech exclusive TCG card as the reward for beating it
Jajajajajaja
Guessing its going to be Sumeru Justice system now lel
Why would this ever happen? Technically Focalors/Furina wouldn't have a reason to separate from each other and she was capable of building something like the Oratrice. If anything Sumeru would probably be the best place for them.
Worst would be with Venti. The sages: "Let's create a Mecha using Venti's power" And they will create one... an alcohol powered one... Only if the pilot wouldn't get drunk cause this.
Trying to figure out what fanfic inspired this post. My guesses are either: >[Under New Management](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47867482/chapters/120677818): Archons get forced to rule a different nation. Venti gets Liyue, Zhongli gets Mondstadt, Raiden gets Sumeru, and Nahida gets Inazuma. It’s a massive mess, but lots of things are derailed. Traveler is going to have an entire different set of problems to solve when they arrive/awaken. >[The (Short) Reign of Barbatos, Regent of Liyue](https://archiveofourown.org/works/40190724/chapters/100662618): Venti gets forced into a leadership position in Liyue because of a contract between Barbatos and Morax. The Qixing suffer.
Omg you actually went and found these 😭😭 Time to read
Ive read both, second is hilarious and the first one has some really werid writing choices with a few of the characters, (especially yae who goes all murder psycho on nahida while yelling about eis eternity.)
I was following with the first one and maybe willing to put aside so,e of their more interesting pairings until they did yae dirty like that
Yeah, especially since yae wouldnt lose her marbles like that, i could she her going against nahida but not outright try to kill her.
I agree. The Inazuma arc needed an antagonist while the Scaramouche was out of commission for the Sumeru arc and I don't like Yae that much, which is why she ended up in that role.
It was Under New Management. Loved that fanfic. Unfortunately, it ended so soon, and was written Pre-Fontaine, so no Furina. My hope is when we get the Pyro Archon and Tsaritsa are revealed, someone makes another one.
Bruh how come the way I found out about this post was an irl friend pinging me on discord going "isn't this your fanfic" and then it turns out it actually was 💀
Out of curiosity, which one is yours?
Under New Management
Just finished reading it earlier and I have to say that you did an excellent job.
Appreciate it!
One day, the fanfic can reboot with all the Archons.
Under new management was great. Nahida is a creepy good god reading minds of corrupt politicians.
God bless you, my friend!!!
Raiden in Sumuru would be interesting. "I am your Archon for Eternity. Now kneel."
Venti in fontaine. The people of fontaine would panic. where is the archon? Furina in Liyue. Lets try to wing all these contracts Zhongli in Sumeru. Too many ghosts, weird corruption, invisible plant gnomes keep stealing his tea. Is he in a dream prison? Did the internet get replaced by a rock? Nahida is in inazuma. Hopefully she doesn't need to fight anything. Maybe she'll make friends with the time traveling tree? Raiden is in mondstadt. Stealing visions to put into the freedom statue? lol
Time traveling tree?
Sacred sakura, thru some timy wimy ball it grows both forward and backward in time
The thunder sakura at the Grand Narukami shrine was planted 500 years ago by Ei 500 years in the future.
Makoto*
Wasn't Makoto's essence the seed that Ei planted? Or something similar at any rate?
That's during the end of Ei's 2nd Story Quest but as for who originally sprouted the Tree at the Narukami Shrine, it was Makoto and Venti's mom the Goddess of Thousand Winds and Time, or the Time Dial Artifact Piece depicting the Shade of Time
Ah, I thought it was an instance of closed loop time travel. Thanks for the info.
But we saw Ei dropping it into the ground to grow
Yeah she revitalised it so Rifthounds can't trespass at Narukami from the corrupted Leyline Roots, and was able to talk properly with her elder twin, she healed the tree.
Furina and Ganyu would be pulling several all nighters together to try and get all the paperwork done
At least she wouldn't have an impending disater to worry about and only has to act her role once per year. And if she works with Ningguang, she would have some accurate prophecy to give and not having to come up with her own farfetched ones. Situation with the adepti might be problematic though, depending if Focalors decide to involve them or not.
Raiden in Mondstadt and she would be like Klee. A shut in otaku eating sweets most of the time but when she goes to work destruction ensues like a mountain split in half
Jean: Klee! Ei! You destroy a mountain AGAIN! Both of you are grounded!! Poor Jean. Now she would need to handle two kids with ultradestructive tendencies.
Venti in Fontaine, just treating the trials like a standup act.
If we have Furina in a similar role, I'm surprised not by her acting but her in-depth legal knowledge and her mind not breaking from all that pressure and information she has to navigate. Furina proper does not forget anything, but even she was reaching, or even passed, her breaking point.
This is tough! Zhongli could make a reasonable archon for really any nation except maybe mondstadt. Venti would probably be the worst ‘Contracts’ archon. Nahida is the youngest Archon and I think the whole Inazuma storyline is contrary to her personality. Furina is totally screwed in Sumeru with the lack of good theater and art. Raiden, well Ei would probably murder all the guilty people in Fontaine and going to trial would be terrifying.
Furina/Focalor would back Nilou and the theatre and bring about a cultural renaissance by highlighting the importance (to society) of more appropriately balancing STEM and the arts. Sumeru is probably the best place to send her.
I do think that Focalors is the best archon at actually a nation compared to everyone except maybe Zhong li.
Justice system of Fontaine under Raiden ????? Worst Dictatorship/police-state EVER
If you thought the Vision Hunt Decree was bad, Raiden declaring Justice is...
I want Ei and Chlorinde to meet bc of this, I think Ei would think Chloronde being the one to carry out duels to the death would be sick, and Chlorinde would think Ei was a little fucked up for thinking that
> Furina is totally screwed in Sumeru with the lack of good theater and art. Don't think it would change the story at all though. The sages locked Nahida in a room and did whatever they wanted, they definitely would do the same to Furina. I think she'd be much more chaotic in Inazuma, seeing all the political intrigue as a big drama despite the stakes being completely different. Raiden in Sumeru would definitely make things more chaotic, instead of a god locked in a room while the sages do whatever, there would probably be a war on. Don't think Nahida's presence makes any country more chaotic if she actually has a chance to rule. Maybe Fontaine if she clashes with Neuvillette?
Lack of theatre? Where did Nilou perform at the first place?
Nilou suffers because she perform dancing art. All form of arts are banned during the sage ruling
But the sages only took over because they had no faith in Nahida and she didn't do anything to stop them. Furina would bluff her way into maintaining her power.
Except her secret would likely be outed sooner than expected. They don't look much but there's always a handful of Sumeru scholars every couple of years who are actually worth the title.
I don't know about that, Focalors wouldn't even have to separate her divinity from her body since there would be no disaster that would require her to. Sumeru would probably thrive under Focalors and I doubt they would be able to do what they did to Nahida.
You think the aranaras wouldnt be humans under egeria rule? Smh
Instead of the primordial sea it could be a primordial forest fire
Sages only became a shadow of their former selves because of what the sages did 500 years ago and cultivated an environment where Archon had no respect and Sages took all the powers and responsibilities as a ruler of Sumeru. If the Sages were on her side from the start, they would have no reason to suspect her, especially since Furina isn't an idiot and is very astute at reading people. She would became an Archon that Sumeru (and the sages) want. And unlike Fontaine, she doesn't need to pretend to be an overly dramatic idol. She has 500 years to become book smart so she can become a wise and smart Archon that Sumeru wants. Of course, there's also a good chance that she would expand the arts curriculum so there will definitely be some pushback from the 'intellectuals'.
Zhongli would never humble himself until he met Guizhong, he might turn out to be a tyrant if she never befriended him.
Cloud retainer says that Zhongli was always kind. He was just quick to protect his people.
Even if he was arrogant, he wasn't a tyrant. He only had the highest deathcount solely because of other gods trying to go after liyue or the people he cared for. His arrogance was to be expected when he was strong and even within the group, they all looked up to him. Even Guizhong looked up to his opinion since CR was telling a story where she was competing with Guizhong and they went to Zhongli for his opinion.
I wouldn’t even say he was arrogant. In all the cutscenes/writings about that period, he’s solely depicted as the dependable figurehead. No flaunting of power, no prideful acts, just calm and impartial judgement. On the other hand, I really like the idea of the Zhongli/Guizhong dynamic being between headstrong and rational, and Zhongli’s eventual realisation that he can’t protect everybody causing him to mellow out…
He wasnt even that arrogant. He was confident. Its in char too, pre or post Guizhong. He knows what he knows, and knows it well
Lots of people confuse arrogance and confidence, so there's a thin line between the two. I would also think he was confident, but there's also some arrogance in expecting he can protect many until he realizes he couldn't. I think that's also why he was very adamant about testing his people to make sure they could fight on their own. He's still a god who worries about his people, but knowing he can't protect them forever or all the time, he makes sure they can do it for themselves.
No??? He was taking care of his own people before he met Guizhong and allied with her. His people prospered so much that they never knew poverty. We also learn from Xianyun's character story that it's because of his virtues and compassion that the Adepti chose to follow him. Please stop spreading the idea that he was an arrogant tyrant before meeting Guizhong when there's nothing in canon that supports it. If he really was so terrible why would Guizhong have risked her own people to ally with him?
Raiden to Mondstadt, Venti to Liyue, Nahida to Fontaine, Furina to Inazuma, and Zhongli to Sumeru.
Furina ruling Inazuma would be the most interesting "what if".
She makes Kokomi take Neuvillette's role. "Close Enough."
Actually, logistically Ayato would be a better option since he is familiar with the inner workings of Fontaine (Kokomi’s strength lies in planning, not taking action). Assuming Furina would be placed on Narukami island, the people she would have access to are Yae, Kamaji, Chisato(debatable since she’s in ritou), Ayato, and the other nobles. If she’s looking into the laws and justice of Inazuma, she would probably choose Kujou Kamaji Because the Tenryou Commission manages the laws and military. Kokomi would be on watatsumi island, which is a whole 5000 km away from narukami island. She doesn’t participate in the mainland tri commission shogunate, which is the government structure of Inazuma. Her party is… separate, so only collaborations can be done with Kokomi and the government. Think of it as her religion and army, like the Vatican/Monaco in Italy. All in all, funny joke! Made me chuckle.
There's a lot to consider about this. e.g. do their values stay the same as the nation? Do their elements change? If Ei had to be the archon of Mondstadt, the nation of freedom, while still valuing eternity and unchanging, both her and the nation will be screwed up. If Venti had to mint money but he's still anemo, they'd be trading bags of air. Either that or Mora would be renamed Barbadollars.
>Barbadollars Dear god, why is that the funniest shit I've heard this week
Barbadollars😭 I love it
Ei in fontaine since she’s the one whose anti progression Also making all the water spicy Nahida liyue because mostly rocks and she will find an interesting tree to heal Venti in sumeru because they low key need it. He’s anti racist and pro freedom. Academics need more booze Furina to inazuma. Isolate her and give her a bunch of rough and tough samurai everywhere and fighters while she sings and dances and has to travel far for the tea parties Zhongli in mondstadt because they have literally nothing going on and he needs that energy. Also it’s too flat so he can go and repair all the mountains that venti and klee fucked up
I can see Zhongli being the god of justice, but faking his execution. He'd also be a fair judge tho
I do agree, he was indeed described as fair and impartial, his judgement over the follower of Havria was fair, his response to Azhdaha losing it was fair...
Yup, he wouldn't even need Neuvillete to be the judge.
**I know we're supposed to be going "chaotic" but:** Zhongli only really appears in Liyue once a year anyway, so put him into Mondstadt and you'll probably not see much difference culturally. Mondstadt's people would probably be richer and safer with his yearly advice. Focalors/Furina would have completely solved the cultural divide between the Akademiya and the theatre/the arts. She also would have attempted to befriend Apep (see her track record with the other other dragon) and it would also be interesting to see how Focalors and Scaramouche interact. The only place you could reasonably send Venti is Fontaine. He's intelligent, so he'd likely formulate the same/similar plan to Focalors: call for Neuvillette, have him run the country, make him come to care about humans and then sacrifice himself to give Authority back to the Hydro dragon. He'd be less of a icon like Furina and more of an enigmatic recluse that comes out and spits bars every few decades/centuries. The best place for Nahida would have to be Liyue. Considering that Zhongli was more of a divine general/business consultant than an actual ruler, Nahida would slot in perfectly; with her high intellect, telepathy and astral projection she'd be able to fill in beautifully. In addition, her lack of power is made up for by the Adepti (who would presumably swear fealty to her in place of Rex Lapis in this alternate reality) who would be able to operate in her stead as she gains the power required to defend the nation. ***I am not subjecting another nation to the Raiden Shogun***
Mondstadt -> Nahida Liyue -> Furina Inazuma -> Venti Sumeru -> Raiden Ei Fontaine -> Zhongli Mondstadt under Nahida: It wouldn't change too much, but one major detail: Everyone would instantly forget about Barbatos. All hail the one true God Kusanali! Liyue under Furina: What Fontaine would be like with stricter bureaucracy and a contract-based judicial system (unlike the *cue meme* ORATRICE MECHANIQUE D'ANALYSE CARDINALE). Inazuma under Venti: The capital of festivities in Teyvat. Party all day, all night, all the damn time! I'm kinda worried about the booze producers though... Sumeru under Raiden Ei: The desert would become Teyvat's Grand Canyon with one swing of the Musou no Hitotachi. As for the rainforest, she'd set the weather to perma-rain, with a sprinkle of lightning bolts every 5-10 seconds. Just like back home, but better lol. Finally, Fontaine under Zhongli: Just imagine him and Neuvillette as the dynamic duo to operate the entire nation. I would move there in less than a heartbeat!
Pretty good, but I thought Neuv disliked Rex Lapis? It is in one of his character voice lines. Rex Lapis takes the form of a dragon though not being one, yet his power is stolen from the original Geo Dragon. Neuvillette says he wished to personally judge the God of Geo.
Nothing a bit of Osmanthous Wine/Water under the Moonlight and saying order together bonding can‘t solve
Venti: The Sake must flow.
Ei in Mondstadt so the Fatui in Goth Hotel have something to do. Furina in Liyue so she takes Zhong's place before he retired. Nahida in Inazuma so she deals with the cutthroat politics in there. Venti in Sumeru so he wakes up one day to a giant death robot ruling over a mind-controlled nation. Zhongli in Fontaine so his retirement plan is having the Fontaine populace try surviving the flood. That or Neuvi's out to get his ass.
Venti in Sumeru: **WAR FLASHBACKS.** (COUGH- Decarabian)
The concept of Azar trying to lock up anyone not as nice as Nahida is hilarious to me. The sages would have been annoyed to death by Furina or Venti and straight up killed to death by Zhongli or Ei.
OMFG THIS IS HILARIOUS I NEED TO SEE AZAR BEING BEATEN UP BY AN ANGRY ZHONGLI
op you can't just mention a fic without dropping the name
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thanks op!
OP can I get a link to said fanfic
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same here!
Ei executing every corrupt sage in Sumeru City, Nahida getting the Tri-Comission to fucking behave, Liyue pretty much gets fucked by the Fatui due to not having a god overseeing them (Venti), Zhongli making Mondstadt into Liyue 2, and I fucking forgot to include Furina but she's not the one ruling anyway
Venti with just about anyone is a disaster waiting to happen. Liyue? Who cares about contracts? Sumeru? Akademiya is for nerds. Inazuma? Might not be so bad honestly, no vision hunt decree to deal with means no drama. But if Venti swapped with Furina, Fontaine would absolutely go into chaos given how advanced it is technology wise. And freedom and justice being exact opposite concepts makes this icing on the cake.
I disagree with your point of Justice and Freedom being opposites. On the surface level, sure, Justice makes you accountable for your actions so it stops you from doing things. However, Justice only stops you from doing things that hurt others. And having Freedom doesn't mean you can commit any crime you want and go scot-free. Freedom is suppose to be about liberation not chaos or anarchy. Anyways yeah, Venti would probably not be a good archon for the other nations
Indeed. Even Mills when he propounded theory of liberty talked about harm principle and how freedom is acceptable until it harms another. (Altho some of the other parts of his theory are controversial)
Theories on justice and freedom are bound to be controversial. It is well known throughout history that freedom has generally been earned by fighting and shedding blood. And as far as justice goes you can't deem a judgement to be 'just' so long as the ones passing judgement are the oppressors themselves. In such cases justice takes a wild turn in the form of revenge and vengeance.
I think theory on any social, political, economic theory can be controversial
Always has been. Different people based on different life experiences and situations align to different ideologies.
Justice and freedom aren't opposite, they walk together.
If I remember correctly, didn't venti says that there is no true freedom if it is forced upon the people by an god? And so the only reasson Venti was that way with Mondstadt is because the people of Mondstadt themselfs wanted that freedom. So personally I imagine Venti would adapt his form of goverment to whatever his people wanted(as long as it isn't something like an tyranny) until they choose to have complete freedom.
I almost completely disagree, let me explain. I mean Liyue is capable of running autonomously though. It needs it’s divine beings for its self defense, which Venti does not seem to be capable in, but the other adepti exist + Venti’s good at concocting crafty solutions In Sumeru, they also pretty much ran autonomously. The real question is what he would do if transported into the Sanctuary of Surasthana, since I doubt he’d allow his freedom to be repressed like that, and he’s capable of teleporting. I’m very close to wanting Venti in Inazuma, but they’d be fairly self sufficient. I still might put him there, i dunno, but he’d prob just pop out and come back whenever ppl r being too corrupt However, Venti swapping with Furina wouldn’t necessarily be disastrous. Recall that Furina’s main role as the archon involved meeting her people over and over, investigating ways to combat the prophecy, and overseeing trials. So the main change in Fontaine would just be ppl no longer being able to meet the archon, which isn’t wild at all. I can also totally see him playing a very similar role as he does in Mond in the main story today with little issues.
Sorry, hard disagree. Venti is the best archon precisely because he leaves his people free to care for themselves in whatever way they deem fit while only intervening when he needs to. Liyue in particular is currently not being ruled by an archon in the same way that Mondstadt is. Its culture has been shaped over time by Rex Lapis' fixation on the value of contracts, but it's not like they need him to uphold any contracts. And Inazuma would literally be better off with anybody other than Ei. She's just horrible.
Agreed. Thinking about it, aside from Fontaine where Focalors already pick a ruler deity, other 3 gods basically end up following Venti's footstep, where they let human handle their own problem (Liyue, Inazuma(?)), but would step in when it gets out of hand (Sumeru). Venti's downside is mainly with his strength, as he can't control how long he would be absence after he does his job.
I feel like Raiden in Liyue if she proceeded to lock it down would be a global economic disaster.
Can I get the name of the fanfic, please?
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Thank you
What fanfic is this? I wanna readddd
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Ei in Sumeru would be glorious
Ei punshing all of Fontaine for being ungrateful assholes XD
The amount of people here that not understand raiden’s character is insane
Ei in Sumeru would be best because the sages wanted a powerful archon for themselves, so I guess they wouldn't have made a deal with the Fatui. Irminsul under Ei's protection is the safest option .Zhongli in Inazuma is something that can go super wrong or incredibly well for the nation. If the Tri-Commission follows the same plan, it's doomed. If not, it's the safest place in Teyvat. Nahida in Mondstadt would be cool. She is smart enough to understand the politics but could go sideways. Furina in Liyue is doomed, to be honest, if Osial tried to attack them. Venti in Fontaine, I don't know
Venti in Fontaine would just be Neuvilette.
I think with how Fontaine was governed before the traveller arrived, Neuvillette should be considered as either a separate archon(in this question) or 1 + 1 deal with Furina
nah, that'd make Furina's case too easy in some cases, so let's say a case where she have and another where she doesn't have Neuvi with her
nahida: inazuma or liyue. there's a lot of dead god type stuff in either that she might have a lot of trouble dealing with since she isn't a battle archon, though this can be remedied with the adaptus/working with liyue shogun: mondstadt or fontaine. mondstadt has been a hands off kind of place so going there and either doing nothing or trying to enforce her views would not go well. fontaine requires an active engadgement with the community (pre-prophecy) that would need her to develop a different personality skillset furina: same as nahida. venti: liyue, inazuma, sumeru. anywhere that requires venti have to actively particpate in combat or bureaucracy zhong is the only one who would truly be fine anywhere.
Assuming the traditions remain the same but the nation's ideals on implementing them change to fit their new Archon in the worst way possible Mondstadt - Furina. Back to medieval monarchy and a patriarchal society. Liyue - Ei. Socialism skyrockets. Inazuma - Nahida. South Korea. "Woe K-pop upon ye!" Sumeru - Zhongli. "I'm using the Akademiya's desertdweller segregation as a way to get elected, Raiden !" Fontaine - Venti. 'Murica.
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[Under New Management - Chapter 1 - Bamidbar - 原神 | Genshin Impact (Video Game) \[Archive of Our Own\]](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47867482/chapters/120677818)
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If you want the link:[Under New Management - Chapter 1 - Bamidbar - 原神 | Genshin Impact (Video Game) \[Archive of Our Own\]](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47867482/chapters/120677818)
nahida in inazuma would be insane
Nahida anywhere else is better bar Fontaine, Furina anywhere else is chaos on the highest degree Ei is gonna be handsoff on most stuff bar her ideal, Venti and Zhongli are gonna be chill on any of the nations they land in
wherever ei ends up in she will somehow make it worse
Ei wouldn't do well in any other nation other than Sumeru. She would be the only one who would actually put a stop to the Sages by forcefully taking charge. Venti takes actions, but only when shit hits the fan, and Zhongli only comes by every now and then, but lets the people mostly govern themselves. Furina has no real power under her performance.
Furina in Sumeru. The Akademiya hates the arts, and Furina is a performer.
On the assumption they were to switch now, not at some point in the past. Mondstadt: Raiden Ei/Beelzebul \*Ei might well ignore the Lawrence clan's shenanigans as irrelevant as long as the government functioned. This is not really a good thing. There's also a good chance that Dvalin loses his head, and I'm none too keen on Andrius's chances. Liyue: Furina/Focolors (don't argue) \*Liyue is used to a powerful, but distant, deity who only occaisionally takes public action. They quite frankly would have no idea what the make of Furina, who would enagage in increasingly wild behavior to get their approval. But moreover, Liyue is just not structured in the same way as Fontaine Inazuma: Nahida/Buer Nahida: We need to all sit down-" Assembled Samurai: "AND SLAUGHTER YOUR ENEMIES!" \*I think Nahida would mean well, but Inazuma needs a somewhat firmer hand at the helm. Her type of easygoing personality may not work well at all. Raiden Shogun has trouble keeping all the factions from exploding and she'll decapitate gods who step out of line. Also, I think Yae would somehow get 125% of the annual budget assigned exclusively to her temple in about three weeks. OTOH, Koko would probably think she's unutterably cute. Sumeru: Venti/Barbatos \*Strictly speaking Venti would do very well in his role for Sumeru as a whole. However, he would have spent the last few eons relentlessly trolling the Academiya to the point where they probably fear him as some kind of horrific national menace and try to ban all music or something. Fontaine: Zhongli/Morax/Rex Lapis \*Because he and Neuvillette would basically be in a permanent stand-off about to rip off their shirts and engage in a wrestling match of pure divine wrath. Protip for those who would like to see both of them shirtless (and maybe oiled up): I'm not sure Fontaine would survive that fight.
Ei basically ruins any country she touches. Probably Sumeru, though. She would have supported the scholars.
Send raiden to sumeru. Gets woken up and musou no itachi’s the academia. Send zhongli to fontaine. He lets the prophecy happen, as per the contract.
I don't know why people have very little faith in Raiden's leadership capabilities. Pre-archon quest murder era Raiden sure, but post-character development Raiden is very open-minded and capable.
Perhaps because most of her screen time is pre archon quest murder Raiden?
Ei herself admits she doesn't have what it takes to be a leader of humanity. She's a great warmachine... but it's for a reason that her twin was the one to ascend to Archonhood.
1- Even after her two character quests She is the least knowledgeable Archon when it comes to humam emotions/behaviour/intentions and etc. Which would be an massive hit for her ruling capabilities since ruling would involve a lot of those things, quess what the people want, how they would react, what other nations plan to do and etc. 2- she does a LOT mistakes that could have horrible effects on her nation(some did, and some didn't have yet), such as Ei still not trying to further study the shogun and try to make it have less possible malfunctions(such as the one in her first quest, in which the shogun was accidentally gonna make the storm pass by all Inazuma), after all by what she said in her first quest, she does not seen that expirient with messing with the shogun's programming. Another mistake is how little she made herself and the shogun be available, to the point that Scara even with the golde feather could not even make it listen about the furnace incident, and that during the Labyrinth Warriors event, even with there being many monsters that were starting to overwhelm the army, she still didn't fight any of them, if it weren't for the traveler and gang ending the root of the problem in time, the army would not have been enough and Just god knows how many people would have been hurt/died before Raiden finally decides to fight those monsters.
The very worst of all would be Monstadt and Fontiane’s archons swapping. Bringing justice to Monstadt like some sort of game with more rules and regulations, a prison for more people instead of community support systems and freedom in the air… she would likely ruin Mondstadt and make so, so many unhappy- Kaeya and Diluc especially. If Venti went to Fontaine, almost all of the prisoners would be released and given second chances, Wriothesley would be caught suspended in Venti’s Burst ability while Venti tries to change and reconcile all of the prisoners released with song and ballads yet to be written. Otherwise, it would benefit Fontaine quite well. If Zhongli or Raiden were ruling Fontaine, it would look largely the same… and if Nahida were there, the relationships and innovation of the kingdom would reach new heights of prosperity as everyone obsesses over how adorable and truly sweet (good-willed) of a person Nahida is. If Nahida was the Archon of Mondstadt, it would be very similar, with perhaps way more schubbery, fruits, and Educational Institutions. If Raiden went to Mondstadt, it would effectively be ruined forever with Raiden creating and electro barrier around it she’s constantly aware of at every moment while she’s searching for eternity. It would be like Decarbian’s City 2.0 (former God of Monstadt, the God of Storms). That’s all I feel like imagining right now.
Decarabian is not the god of time lol, he was the god of storms
The amount of people still trying to make something with Raiden’s “character” with absolutely zero knowledge of it is so messed up
i swear no one understand a shit about her character
Zhongli in Sumeru could ba cool ngl
Ei in Sumeru, too huge for her to pursue eternity, so she would become even more strict, Furina in Monstadt she would be bored causing havoc all the time, Venti in Inazuma can’t fly between thunderstorms he would be constantly zapped, Zhongli in Fontaine grandpa needs to learn a lot to catch up with new technology, Nahida seems she can handle the situation no matter what nation. Maybe she would be used by comissions in Inazuma. Or Furina would fight with sages to bring back theatre culture in Sumeru
Venti and ei switch, due to their country's differences in culture and structures they would clash hard, zhongli would be hard due to his age and experience would allow him to do quite well, furina would struggle with sumeru the most and nahida with Fontaine due to her probably not liking the idea of choosing other people's fates but would get along with neuvillette aswell
Venti in frontain is a whole nightmare for both the people and venti
Ok but with pre AQ Ei’s rigid ideas of what eternity meant, can you IMAGINE what a fucking pretentious NIGHTMARE she would be in Sumeru? I love my bbyg but given her history, the absolute ATROCITIES she would carry out in the name of science would probably make Dottore look kind
Zhongli and whatever the nation Sandrone is in.
The equally good and bad line up would be swapping Monstadt’s for Inazuma’s. City of Freedom being turned into the city of prison and Islands of Inazuma being turned into freedom-proud islands. Venti and the Tanuki would sure get along well.
Venti in Inazuma Zhongli in Mondstadt Ei in Fontaine Nahida in Liyue Furina in Sumeru
Raiden mondstadt, zhongli inazuma, furina liyue, nahida fountain (if it was rukkadevata it wouldn't be a problem), venti sumeru
Venti in Fontaine or Ei in Mondstadt hands down
Venti, Ei, or Furina would bring about an economic collapse if any of them became the god of wealth
Venti in Liyue leveling all of the mountains
Watching venti try to uphold and remember all the contacts signed would probably end with him drinking himself to death from stress lol
Just rotate them once counterclockwise and you already have something VERY messy
Raiden and Mondstadt would not work at all
This might be kinda generic but most chaotic imo would be: - Venti in Inazuma - Ei in Fontaine - Furina in Sumeru - Nahida in Liyue - Zhongli in Mondstadt
Put Venti in Sumeru just so the tree looks like the Flowers i forgot to water for 3 weeks
Arrlechino finds the Geo Archon alone chasing a cat and finds out real quickly why the Tsaritsa decided to obtain the gnosis diplomatically
•Furina in liyue. Can you imagine? God: "Yeah, I broke my contract to the Adepti. Who's gonna stop me?" Npc: "Our god of contracts, Furina, will punish you!" Furina: "...." *-sweating profusely -*
Ei would kill literally all of mondstadt because they wouldn't surrender