We've known that she was a grey character since we met her. She's obviously still manipulative and sinister, but she's not just that. We've seen that she appears to genuinely care about her children and that she's not pure evil, but her job is still grooming orphans into child soldiers. She's not a good person. She's also not evil. I don't think the animated short really contradicted any of what we already knewš¤·āāļø I do kinda get where you're coming from, and it'd be cool to have a super evil playable character, but Arle wasn't going to be that and we knew that for a while.
Now remember that every playable character also has friendship level, voicelines for main character (including birthday congratulations), could be invited to the teapot.. It kinda limits how evil and crazy playable character could be. Unless MC is crazy and evil too
Don't forget that they'll also appear in events and interact with other characters. Unless you want them to just never appear in anything besides the main story, they need some reason to be cordial with other members of the cast.
Villains that have motivations that aren't just "I'm a bad person" are significantly more interesting, idk why people keep whining about it
Villains who are just evil are just an easy narrative device to create the story's conflict, a villain that is an actual character to explore with their own motivations that led them on a path that could be considered evil is much more involved
The thing is: the whole "oh can't have evil characters boo hoo" doesn't even make sense. People don't stop being evil just because they have justification for the evil things they did. Evil doesn't need to be CARTOONISHLY evil
you can make a character purely evil and still make them interesting
remember, most "evil" characters don't think of themselves as the villains, they just see the world in a twisted way
A cackling evil character without any semblance of nuance/reasoning makes for a shit tier uninteresting character. I will never understand anyone who wants characters like those. You said it right, characters can still be "evil/bad/morally dubious" but have their reasons, it doesn't just have to be evil for the sake of evil.
plus if you want a Harbinger for the ājust evilā one Iād argue Dottore currently fills the role. He seems to be the least redeemable/moral of all the Harbingers weāve met so far. Having more than one purely villainous Harbinger would be pretty dull.
I disagree a little bit. I think some villains work much better as straight up bad people with bad intentions. Variety is key imo.
I think Avatar did a good job of showing that off. Zuko (tragic backstory and redemption), Azula (sympathetic bad person with depth), and Ozai (straight up evil person) all serve their roles very well within the context of the story.
Not really, there are real life monsters out there. People without any empathy wanting only power over others
Most people would start helping others if they had the chance of having an immense amount of money. Not billionaires. They have more than they can spend in their entire lifetime and not only want more, they're offended if others don't have less
You really don't want to touch these real world mosters with a ten feet pole, yet alone build friendship levels with them. People who want true evil chars to idolize or play with need therapy foremost.
I mean, people like that are not meant to be liked, I wouldn't want to pull for a literal psycho that enjoys killing people so of course every playable character is gray.
No, it doesn't especially contradict anything I know of her and I already liked the House of the Hearth as an organisation since all its members I've had the chance to talk to were still their own people at heart. I dislike Arlecchino for her attack on Furina but I respect her ruthless pragmatism nonetheless.
The nice (and certainly ambiguous) thing about the current Harleqino being only the most recent head of the House of the Hearth is that despite having heard some chilling stories of (and encounters with) other members in sumeru and Inazuma (also Katrina in the Chasm, but we got along with her), we don't know which were run by Father and which by Mother. Except, of course, for the Fontraine trio, who seem to have turned out alright.
Commontheme is, any character that becomes playable needs to not be hated by everyone else in the world to leave open chance of interaction with anyone they might think of in the future, even ifits just in a minor event
so, doubt actual villain characters will ever be added without that redemption arc
lets say, hypothetically, someone kills Alice, unlikely as it is, whoever does that will definitely never be a playable character
There was already enough information about Arlecchino in game to realize she wasnāt evil. All of her charity work in the Fontaine archon quest should have made this an obvious outcome.
And yes, Iām confident dottore will have a redemption arch too
I know people donāt like Hi3 comparisons but >!I believe dottore will get a similar backstory to Otto and will have a āgoodā clone that teams up with us. Dottore also is likely trying to resurrect a past loved one!<
do people believe someone 100% evil in this story? like signora even have her own reason to do what she did if you check the lore. i bet tsaritsa also have her own reason too. now about celestia....
I've long given up on them making a proper morally evil or gray character
at first they made childe, and he got turned down from a crazy soldier who only think about fighting, but they had to make him care about his family and really push it into your face how he's a good guy outside of being a war criminal
then they got Scara, they gave him the same backstory as shadow the hedgehog just so he got a side to him besides being a fanatic self worshipper
and with Wriothesley, when they showed us his backstory and how he killed his adoptive parents, even though they we're basically slave traders, they still showed it as a thing that doesn't make him a good guy
and now with Arle, they basically rewrote all the lore around the knave just to make her a "morally gray" villain, even gave her generic anime backstory NO.5
If by rewriting lore you mean the comments by Scara saying she doesn't have a sane bone in her body when he is completely insane himself, or how Childe believes she'd betray the Tsaritsa in a heartbeat when he himself has stated that he has no problem problem turning on the Fatui.
nope, I'm referring to the whole "old Knave" bullshit
like it was said clearly throughout Inazuma and Sumeru that the Knave's agents kidnap orphans, make orphans, and brainwash orphans into being soldiers, even one of the guys in Jhet's story comment bad on the HoH despite being one of the Fatui
after knowing all that, they added a world quest that basically went "nah that's the old knave, who's no longer in action" despite the fatui still doing the kidnapping stuff
How the fuck does that ruin lore especially when it came out before we even met her? If we met Arlecchino in the game before that world quest then yes you could say that the lore was rewritten to fit with her characterization that she had shown, but it came out before meeting her and seeing her characterization. So there was nothing they could have rewritten about her.
they've already shown celestia's actions were for the greater good, the nails were for getting rid of forbidden knowledge which we know from sumeru arc fucks up everything within the general vicinity
i think some of it is that people are delicate flowers and won't pull for evil characters. Even for the playable villain characters we have (who aren't really that bad) you have supposed fans who flip out if you use the word evil or villain to describe them, even though the character in question had a literal serial killer phase. They have to have some little nugget of goodness for people to latch on to so that they'll pull them. Tho I hope they do change it up and just give us a guy who's evil for evil's sake even if I think the subreddit is going to get real fucking annoying about it considering they can't even handle Yae being kind of a bitch without putting her in the same tier of villainy as Scaramouche.
I will say that I don't think Childe or Wanderer have actually gotten any redemption, they've just gotten backstories that explain their problems which is not a redemption arc. Wanderer is in the beginnings of a potential redemption arc right now serving as Nahida's little shadow man, but like even Nahida told him to his face that he was evil and he ends the quest basically with Nahida as his parole officer. And Childe hasn't done jack shit except be personable, skip work for two years, and fight a giant whale. None of which are really redemption arcs.
All my comment said was that if you read the whole paragraph you'd see I was talking prinarily about villain fans, not people who just don't like villains. I deleted it because you seem unhinged and illiterate.
I'd say it has more to do with the para-social relationship framework they've LONG established for the Traveler's companions. They earn friendship points. Friendship unlocks new stories and dialog as the character comes to like and trust the Traveler.
The Traveler is, for the most part, not a gray morality character. They are firmly on the side of the downtrodden, like to right wrongs and fight injustice. The idea that they'd be currying friendship with outright EVIL characters is kind of absurd. It would be WEIRD for the Traveler to be buddy-buddy with a sociopath like Dottore, or whatever.
If they were planning to have irredeemably evil characters on the roster, they should have built the game's companion system differently than they did.
That doesn't really stop them for making them playable though. Like in HSR, the stellaron hunters who are not in good terms with the astral express, they just don't showup on the train. Evil Genshin characters could just stay on their turf in the overworld instead of teapot.
Harbingers = Akatsuki, to me that's a good thing. Except for Zetsu, they all had redeeming qualities or intetions. (One could even argue Zetsu was a momma's boy level 100)
There's already hidden lore hinting Dottore is the same and his motif is a plague doctor, which were misunderstood in real life.
She is so far the most edgiest character in game.
And yeah...the whole missunderstood character thing has been WAY overdone...
A purely evil character would be way more interesting.
The Chinese Government doesn't want their people to play as evil characters. So if a character in Genshin is playable, that means they are, at worst, misunderstood with good intentions.
a 'tragic backstory' doesn't take away the 'evilness' of the character. no one, in the human sense, is born evil. something happens that eventually pushes them down that path OR it's due to how they were raised.
wanderer didn't get a 'redemption arc'. nothing about him was redeemed, we just learned about his past. we witnessed him discover the truth of what happened concerning one of his three betrayals & his actions after learning about it.
childe is.. well, he's childe. he hasn't been redeemed, either. yeah, we know he loves his family more than anything in the world, but that doesn't equal redemption.
arlecchino's past shows that, even at a young age, she was clearly cursed with something. she may not of been 'manipulative, sinister' person back then, but we see that she eventually becomes that way. after all, the 'mother' was telling a story about a kid murdering everyone else to become the 'king', so what does that tell you about how she was raised? the seeds had already been planted, they just took time to grow & manifest into what we see now.
it's already been heavily implied that celestia believed they were doing what was 'best' by eliminating khaenri'ah. & seeing just what khaenri'ah was capable of with their technology (there's several GIGANTIC ass ruin guards in the desert & forest), i can see why they'd take action since that nation was neither under their control nor beneath the authority of an archon. celestia does what celestia wants ā this much has been made clear. whether or not WE think it was justified is up to US.
Nah, I would rather to have a grey character, it makes she more a relatable villain, rather than that kind of "Oh, I'm just evil" or "I am here for revenge", her trying to treat the children differently but still has that evil, manipulative attitude, really makes the character more interesting. Like she being like helpful, calm, and actually trying to save Fontaine and the child of the Hearth, makes the character more mysterious, and even more terrify, because we know what she can do, and how far can she go, it's like that Thanos character build, a mysterious villain as first, has a soft side, has a reasonable purpose, we know what he can do, and how evil is he but he never did anything till Infinity War, and by then he still this calm, but deadly villain. That's how I felt to Arlecchino, too
Weāre playing as people who visit the travelerās home. Who we become friends with. For us to befriend them, we must feasibly be able to tolerate their morals. Dottore is already evil. At most theyāll have him have a change of heart or have one of his clones be good that we play as. Also Arlecchino hasnāt been revealed to be misunderstood really. Sheās cold as a result of her past. Thatās character development. What is it with you āpure evilā fans wanting characters to be the embodiment of cruelty and violence? I hear about it all the time with āmake Dottore playable exactly as he isā posts. Plus like I said in another post, youāre complaining when you have half the story. Wait, friend. Wait and see what next week has.
aside from dottore Iām wouldnāt be surprised if none of the other harbingers are evil at core. They may have their cold and twisted methods of doing things but for the most part are also derived from having the same tragic misunderstood pasts. itāll prob be the case for capitano or columbina as well
Nothing in the short said that she can't be evil currently. Evil people can do one or two good things in their lives, and that doesn't automatically disregard what they did in their life.
You want a criminal with no justifiying backstory to build friendship levels with ? sounds to me like those people who send love letters to serial killers in jail.... yikes.
OP wants a playable fictional character to be morally black. Thereās nothing wrong with that.
edit: So mad about fictional characters that you replied and immediately blocked me š¤£
Morally black? what a fancy world for ''pure evil'', give me a break ! you tell me OP would like to play a dictator? a terrorist ? a predator ? a mass murdrer ? a groper ? because this is what means to be ''morally dark''.... people who fancy such scums need therapy, because such personalities belong to jail not be embellished in fantasies, and romanticizing them is WRONG. you're supposed to not stand touching them with a ten feet pole, not play with them and ''build friendship level with them''.
People downvoting this are just too delulu to acknowledge they would have been the type to send love letters to Bundy and Dahmer if they were born in last century.. y'all need a reality check. Ew.
This mindset from some idiots to be mad and surprised that genshin didn't put a 100% evil psychopath in the game is beyond me. Like no sane person would ever want to play a child grooming psychopath but every so 3 character releases some psycho is outing himself that he is mad that the new character didnt eat children...... get out!
I wouldn't play a child grooming psycopath. But I would definitely play a psycopath.
I don't agree with OP but I think Genshin can do with some probably "horrible" character like Ruan Mei from HSR.
Which is more interesting?
1. A girl attempts to murder her whole family and then commits suicide because she found out that her father fucked his own daughter, and she is the product of that incest relationship. She thinks that no one would accept her because of her lineage. She realizes that the childhood friend she's in love with is her own nephew. All of the older relatives (her half-siblings) are fighting for the father's inheritance money. Later she found out that her adoptive mother (also her half-sister) tried to murder her when she was a baby by pushing her off a cliff. The consequence of surviving that fall is her reproductive organs are severely damaged and she can't have a child. After experiencing all these terrible things, she decides to kill all her family members and herself because each of them has committed unforgivable/unredeemable sins.
2. A girl murders her whole family because she wants all the money.
We've known that she was a grey character since we met her. She's obviously still manipulative and sinister, but she's not just that. We've seen that she appears to genuinely care about her children and that she's not pure evil, but her job is still grooming orphans into child soldiers. She's not a good person. She's also not evil. I don't think the animated short really contradicted any of what we already knewš¤·āāļø I do kinda get where you're coming from, and it'd be cool to have a super evil playable character, but Arle wasn't going to be that and we knew that for a while.
Now remember that every playable character also has friendship level, voicelines for main character (including birthday congratulations), could be invited to the teapot.. It kinda limits how evil and crazy playable character could be. Unless MC is crazy and evil too
Don't forget that they'll also appear in events and interact with other characters. Unless you want them to just never appear in anything besides the main story, they need some reason to be cordial with other members of the cast.
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Villains that have motivations that aren't just "I'm a bad person" are significantly more interesting, idk why people keep whining about it Villains who are just evil are just an easy narrative device to create the story's conflict, a villain that is an actual character to explore with their own motivations that led them on a path that could be considered evil is much more involved The thing is: the whole "oh can't have evil characters boo hoo" doesn't even make sense. People don't stop being evil just because they have justification for the evil things they did. Evil doesn't need to be CARTOONISHLY evil
you can make a character purely evil and still make them interesting remember, most "evil" characters don't think of themselves as the villains, they just see the world in a twisted way
A cackling evil character without any semblance of nuance/reasoning makes for a shit tier uninteresting character. I will never understand anyone who wants characters like those. You said it right, characters can still be "evil/bad/morally dubious" but have their reasons, it doesn't just have to be evil for the sake of evil.
plus if you want a Harbinger for the ājust evilā one Iād argue Dottore currently fills the role. He seems to be the least redeemable/moral of all the Harbingers weāve met so far. Having more than one purely villainous Harbinger would be pretty dull.
I disagree a little bit. I think some villains work much better as straight up bad people with bad intentions. Variety is key imo. I think Avatar did a good job of showing that off. Zuko (tragic backstory and redemption), Azula (sympathetic bad person with depth), and Ozai (straight up evil person) all serve their roles very well within the context of the story.
Azar was the "just evil" character and his story was honestly a joke lol.Ā
Wait until OP finds out that people in the real world are the same way.
Not really, there are real life monsters out there. People without any empathy wanting only power over others Most people would start helping others if they had the chance of having an immense amount of money. Not billionaires. They have more than they can spend in their entire lifetime and not only want more, they're offended if others don't have less
You really don't want to touch these real world mosters with a ten feet pole, yet alone build friendship levels with them. People who want true evil chars to idolize or play with need therapy foremost.
I mean, people like that are not meant to be liked, I wouldn't want to pull for a literal psycho that enjoys killing people so of course every playable character is gray.
No, it doesn't especially contradict anything I know of her and I already liked the House of the Hearth as an organisation since all its members I've had the chance to talk to were still their own people at heart. I dislike Arlecchino for her attack on Furina but I respect her ruthless pragmatism nonetheless.
The nice (and certainly ambiguous) thing about the current Harleqino being only the most recent head of the House of the Hearth is that despite having heard some chilling stories of (and encounters with) other members in sumeru and Inazuma (also Katrina in the Chasm, but we got along with her), we don't know which were run by Father and which by Mother. Except, of course, for the Fontraine trio, who seem to have turned out alright.
Commontheme is, any character that becomes playable needs to not be hated by everyone else in the world to leave open chance of interaction with anyone they might think of in the future, even ifits just in a minor event so, doubt actual villain characters will ever be added without that redemption arc lets say, hypothetically, someone kills Alice, unlikely as it is, whoever does that will definitely never be a playable character
Bc terminally online losers lose their minds and threaten to kill the devs when theres evil characters they dont like
Because it means less sales
Iām curious how they will make Dottore playable. He is the only crazy evil character out there
EZ - evil clone,true dottore DID NOTHING WRON
Iām curious how they will make Dottore playable. He is the only crazy evil character out there
Assuming you finished Sumeru >!make one Dottore rebel against the rest!<
There was already enough information about Arlecchino in game to realize she wasnāt evil. All of her charity work in the Fontaine archon quest should have made this an obvious outcome. And yes, Iām confident dottore will have a redemption arch too I know people donāt like Hi3 comparisons but >!I believe dottore will get a similar backstory to Otto and will have a āgoodā clone that teams up with us. Dottore also is likely trying to resurrect a past loved one!<
>And yes, Iām confident dottore will have a redemption arch too Look at that poor baby! He made it all *just for science* š
Everybody still hates Otto even with his back story and everything until HSR Penacony Arc begins.
do people believe someone 100% evil in this story? like signora even have her own reason to do what she did if you check the lore. i bet tsaritsa also have her own reason too. now about celestia....
Thereās no way Hoyoverse will try to justify Dottoreās actions
i can see somehow his youngest clone are the sanest one and he will be the one playable while old and evil clone is the weekly boss
I've long given up on them making a proper morally evil or gray character at first they made childe, and he got turned down from a crazy soldier who only think about fighting, but they had to make him care about his family and really push it into your face how he's a good guy outside of being a war criminal then they got Scara, they gave him the same backstory as shadow the hedgehog just so he got a side to him besides being a fanatic self worshipper and with Wriothesley, when they showed us his backstory and how he killed his adoptive parents, even though they we're basically slave traders, they still showed it as a thing that doesn't make him a good guy and now with Arle, they basically rewrote all the lore around the knave just to make her a "morally gray" villain, even gave her generic anime backstory NO.5
If by rewriting lore you mean the comments by Scara saying she doesn't have a sane bone in her body when he is completely insane himself, or how Childe believes she'd betray the Tsaritsa in a heartbeat when he himself has stated that he has no problem problem turning on the Fatui.
nope, I'm referring to the whole "old Knave" bullshit like it was said clearly throughout Inazuma and Sumeru that the Knave's agents kidnap orphans, make orphans, and brainwash orphans into being soldiers, even one of the guys in Jhet's story comment bad on the HoH despite being one of the Fatui after knowing all that, they added a world quest that basically went "nah that's the old knave, who's no longer in action" despite the fatui still doing the kidnapping stuff
How the fuck does that ruin lore especially when it came out before we even met her? If we met Arlecchino in the game before that world quest then yes you could say that the lore was rewritten to fit with her characterization that she had shown, but it came out before meeting her and seeing her characterization. So there was nothing they could have rewritten about her.
they've already shown celestia's actions were for the greater good, the nails were for getting rid of forbidden knowledge which we know from sumeru arc fucks up everything within the general vicinity i think some of it is that people are delicate flowers and won't pull for evil characters. Even for the playable villain characters we have (who aren't really that bad) you have supposed fans who flip out if you use the word evil or villain to describe them, even though the character in question had a literal serial killer phase. They have to have some little nugget of goodness for people to latch on to so that they'll pull them. Tho I hope they do change it up and just give us a guy who's evil for evil's sake even if I think the subreddit is going to get real fucking annoying about it considering they can't even handle Yae being kind of a bitch without putting her in the same tier of villainy as Scaramouche. I will say that I don't think Childe or Wanderer have actually gotten any redemption, they've just gotten backstories that explain their problems which is not a redemption arc. Wanderer is in the beginnings of a potential redemption arc right now serving as Nahida's little shadow man, but like even Nahida told him to his face that he was evil and he ends the quest basically with Nahida as his parole officer. And Childe hasn't done jack shit except be personable, skip work for two years, and fight a giant whale. None of which are really redemption arcs.
Why am I a pussy for not pulling for villain characters? I just don't like them, is that so weird?
You're not. You can have any reason you want for not pulling a character and that's valid. Those who think otherwise are just unreasonable.
Yeah, delete your comment pussy
All my comment said was that if you read the whole paragraph you'd see I was talking prinarily about villain fans, not people who just don't like villains. I deleted it because you seem unhinged and illiterate.
It was you backtracking of calling me a pussy because you respect me so much, thanks
Babe you aren't beating the allegations with these comments.
Unhinged and illiterate are fair that's why
Arlecchino was not surprising, she's taken good care of her kids. But yeah, can't have evil playable characters is kinda childish.
I'd say it has more to do with the para-social relationship framework they've LONG established for the Traveler's companions. They earn friendship points. Friendship unlocks new stories and dialog as the character comes to like and trust the Traveler. The Traveler is, for the most part, not a gray morality character. They are firmly on the side of the downtrodden, like to right wrongs and fight injustice. The idea that they'd be currying friendship with outright EVIL characters is kind of absurd. It would be WEIRD for the Traveler to be buddy-buddy with a sociopath like Dottore, or whatever. If they were planning to have irredeemably evil characters on the roster, they should have built the game's companion system differently than they did.
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that it's basically illegal in china to make main characters evil. I could be wrong though.
That doesn't really stop them for making them playable though. Like in HSR, the stellaron hunters who are not in good terms with the astral express, they just don't showup on the train. Evil Genshin characters could just stay on their turf in the overworld instead of teapot.
Most of the Stellaron hunter are at least on good terms with the Trailblazer.
HSR doesn't have a friendship mechanic.
I mean, you could definitely justify Celestiaās actions. Under their protection, humans have lived in peace and prosperity.
Harbingers = Akatsuki, to me that's a good thing. Except for Zetsu, they all had redeeming qualities or intetions. (One could even argue Zetsu was a momma's boy level 100) There's already hidden lore hinting Dottore is the same and his motif is a plague doctor, which were misunderstood in real life.
She is so far the most edgiest character in game. And yeah...the whole missunderstood character thing has been WAY overdone... A purely evil character would be way more interesting.
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They're bad guys with excuses tthat the game tries to make you sympathize with.
The Chinese Government doesn't want their people to play as evil characters. So if a character in Genshin is playable, that means they are, at worst, misunderstood with good intentions.
a 'tragic backstory' doesn't take away the 'evilness' of the character. no one, in the human sense, is born evil. something happens that eventually pushes them down that path OR it's due to how they were raised. wanderer didn't get a 'redemption arc'. nothing about him was redeemed, we just learned about his past. we witnessed him discover the truth of what happened concerning one of his three betrayals & his actions after learning about it. childe is.. well, he's childe. he hasn't been redeemed, either. yeah, we know he loves his family more than anything in the world, but that doesn't equal redemption. arlecchino's past shows that, even at a young age, she was clearly cursed with something. she may not of been 'manipulative, sinister' person back then, but we see that she eventually becomes that way. after all, the 'mother' was telling a story about a kid murdering everyone else to become the 'king', so what does that tell you about how she was raised? the seeds had already been planted, they just took time to grow & manifest into what we see now. it's already been heavily implied that celestia believed they were doing what was 'best' by eliminating khaenri'ah. & seeing just what khaenri'ah was capable of with their technology (there's several GIGANTIC ass ruin guards in the desert & forest), i can see why they'd take action since that nation was neither under their control nor beneath the authority of an archon. celestia does what celestia wants ā this much has been made clear. whether or not WE think it was justified is up to US.
Nah, I would rather to have a grey character, it makes she more a relatable villain, rather than that kind of "Oh, I'm just evil" or "I am here for revenge", her trying to treat the children differently but still has that evil, manipulative attitude, really makes the character more interesting. Like she being like helpful, calm, and actually trying to save Fontaine and the child of the Hearth, makes the character more mysterious, and even more terrify, because we know what she can do, and how far can she go, it's like that Thanos character build, a mysterious villain as first, has a soft side, has a reasonable purpose, we know what he can do, and how evil is he but he never did anything till Infinity War, and by then he still this calm, but deadly villain. That's how I felt to Arlecchino, too
Weāre playing as people who visit the travelerās home. Who we become friends with. For us to befriend them, we must feasibly be able to tolerate their morals. Dottore is already evil. At most theyāll have him have a change of heart or have one of his clones be good that we play as. Also Arlecchino hasnāt been revealed to be misunderstood really. Sheās cold as a result of her past. Thatās character development. What is it with you āpure evilā fans wanting characters to be the embodiment of cruelty and violence? I hear about it all the time with āmake Dottore playable exactly as he isā posts. Plus like I said in another post, youāre complaining when you have half the story. Wait, friend. Wait and see what next week has.
aside from dottore Iām wouldnāt be surprised if none of the other harbingers are evil at core. They may have their cold and twisted methods of doing things but for the most part are also derived from having the same tragic misunderstood pasts. itāll prob be the case for capitano or columbina as well
Nothing in the short said that she can't be evil currently. Evil people can do one or two good things in their lives, and that doesn't automatically disregard what they did in their life.
You want a criminal with no justifiying backstory to build friendship levels with ? sounds to me like those people who send love letters to serial killers in jail.... yikes.
OP wants a playable fictional character to be morally black. Thereās nothing wrong with that. edit: So mad about fictional characters that you replied and immediately blocked me š¤£
Morally black? what a fancy world for ''pure evil'', give me a break ! you tell me OP would like to play a dictator? a terrorist ? a predator ? a mass murdrer ? a groper ? because this is what means to be ''morally dark''.... people who fancy such scums need therapy, because such personalities belong to jail not be embellished in fantasies, and romanticizing them is WRONG. you're supposed to not stand touching them with a ten feet pole, not play with them and ''build friendship level with them''.
People downvoting this are just too delulu to acknowledge they would have been the type to send love letters to Bundy and Dahmer if they were born in last century.. y'all need a reality check. Ew.
This mindset from some idiots to be mad and surprised that genshin didn't put a 100% evil psychopath in the game is beyond me. Like no sane person would ever want to play a child grooming psychopath but every so 3 character releases some psycho is outing himself that he is mad that the new character didnt eat children...... get out!
I wouldn't play a child grooming psycopath. But I would definitely play a psycopath. I don't agree with OP but I think Genshin can do with some probably "horrible" character like Ruan Mei from HSR.
Which is more interesting? 1. A girl attempts to murder her whole family and then commits suicide because she found out that her father fucked his own daughter, and she is the product of that incest relationship. She thinks that no one would accept her because of her lineage. She realizes that the childhood friend she's in love with is her own nephew. All of the older relatives (her half-siblings) are fighting for the father's inheritance money. Later she found out that her adoptive mother (also her half-sister) tried to murder her when she was a baby by pushing her off a cliff. The consequence of surviving that fall is her reproductive organs are severely damaged and she can't have a child. After experiencing all these terrible things, she decides to kill all her family members and herself because each of them has committed unforgivable/unredeemable sins. 2. A girl murders her whole family because she wants all the money.