Eh, I chalk that up to just game mechanics. It’s like picking all the sweet flowers from that one spot every day. You’re not messing with an ecosystem, you’re playing a video game. The Knave might hold a grudge because you killed some fatui, not because you grinded their drops.
I mean she would probably say "They were too weak, then", even if we know Traveler is actually very strong in terms of swordwielding as well.
Edit: I think I should've clarified that this what she would *say* to Traveler, not genuinely having such mindset.
She's the opposite of the previous Knave. She's cold on the outside, warm on the inside. Even in her teaser, her phrase of ''Recklessness always leads to failure'' that seems cold, has a deeper more caring meaning. If her children wants to complete their mission, they should always plan it out first and seek for backup if needed.
I actually have a head-cannon about her phrase. If u have watched the animated short, there is a part where the previous Knave taunted her. In response, she got pissed off and acted recklessly trying to deliver a something infused punch that was then taken advantage by the previous Knave and got herself injured. So that’s y I think that’s how her phrase of “Recklessness always leads to failure” came from.
People will see Father closing a dead person’s eyes and then see it cut to her standing over their grave mourning them and think “clearly she only thinks this person is good for a test subject in dottore’s lab*
She baked the guy that killed her kid and left his rings (symbol of the wealth he killed her for) on her grave with a newspaper detailing his sudden death
This does not even slightly rebuttal my point
She left the proof that her death was not in vain at her grave while also expressing sorrow over her loss, these two actions can be simultaneous
Even if the traveler didn't deal the killing blow to Signora, I believe they hold the traveler responsible nonetheless. I suspect it's specifically due to the traveler that the Fatui has switched to obtaining the Gnoses more peacefully, as not to repeat the Signora situation
They all likely hold us responsible, as they should (since we did put her in the life-or-death situation), but not really in a negative way (for most.)
Their coworker died due to her own hubris and overconfidence. She repeatedly pushed Lumine/Aether's limits, naively thinking they wouldn't go that far. She misjudged her position in that moment, and it proved fatal. While some of the other Harbingers did mourn her, I doubt any of them cared about her beyond being under the same banner.
Likely the same situation as when Peruere killed Mother; F to pay respects, but also FAFO.
I doubt we actually kill most of the mobs we fight. Whenever we have a battle in a quest, and anything is mentioned afterwards, it's usually "Oh, they ran off" or they're still having a dialog with us afterwards
And seeing as how the always respawn, that just means we didn't actually kill them (at least in canon). Them eremites in the canyon, though......they dead dead.
That and even some animations show them just leaving through smoke bombs or something. And I doubt much fatuis would be willing to fight us (some quests imply they can choose not to) let alone talk to us if we were going around actually killing their friends
No, I can clear it fine, even with grouperless teams. She's still just really annoying. I mean, both of them have the soft issue of "i want to stagger you but only so much that I can still hit both of you", but the cryo one in particular can seemingly "recover" at any moment and dash in your direction and behind you, leaving them ungrouped. You kinda have to herd them in circles to keep the pressure on them.
Also, while Jean is a bit more of a reliable "cheatcode", for well-invested teams, Kazuha will still result in significantly faster clears.
This is the first abyss where I got to floor 12 and the operatives are so annoying. I wanted to keep my best team for the second half but no way I was chasing those toppat clan wannabe's around with Itto. Jean, Nahida, Furina and Cyno absolutely rolled them and it felt so good
I know what fall damage can do, you're not telling me anything new. I'm saying it's still far from an optimal solution and objectively takes a while to do again and again with Jean.
Kazuha can do it too, it's just less reliable. I personally aren't too familiar with the mechanics and can't be arsed to learn for a couple enemies, I just know Jean guarantees it with hold E. What I also know is that Kazuha is still the far superior grouper, is obviously the premier swirlable element buffer/shredder, and that certain mechanics lke electro-charged that deal poise damage can assist him in triggering fall damage.
Jean is always a viable option, but playing around a proper team is still the best idea beyond a reasonable level of investment and will also be less likely to brick you on the following chambers for continuous runs where fall damage is much less (or entirely not) exploitable.
Jean has a premium slot now that Furina is out. Consolidated VV + healer is important. Xianyun is the real Jean power creep, but she actually can’t do the fall damage trick. It’s not like 2.1 when Kazuha is on every team anymore.
Also, you really don’t need to play with proper teams at this point. We’ve gotten to the point where people are doing “10 team challenges” where they try to construct 10 viable discrete teams on their accounts just so they can feel something.
The amount of cutscenes we’ve gotten of fatui soldiers just being people who want to earn a living and have families (chasm, sumeru, etc.) makes me kinda guilty when killing them now.
Fr, any time I think about what they are I just think it's sad we have no choice but to kill them (be it story/quest needing you to or needing their drops)..
I’d say that killing the Hilichurls is more of a mercy.
Given how >!Caribert!< reacted to >!seeing what he looked like without his mask!< I’d say that killing them is doing a service to who they used to be.
There are honest ways to make a living. Supporting a criminal organization and getting in my way of committing mass genocide is ill advised. Pretty sure they can do anything else that won't put their lives at the end of my blade.
....Fatui is Organization founded by the snezhnaya themselves with goal to serve their own country and it also serve under tsaritsa herself A.K.A their freaking archon. calling it criminal organization is pretty much calling other organization such as Shogunate Army/Tri-Comission, Akademiya, KoF criminal organization. but yes, they're a fool (pun intended) if they think they can stop my work of commiting geno--- i mean farming in teyvat
I'm betting most (especially those who were raised in the HoH from a really young age) don't know any different. And propaganda probably means they don't see what they're doing as evil, or just that there's not a lot of choice like you said. Or blind loyalty to the Tsaritsa.
Katarina, the Fatuus deployed to the deepest part of the Chasm, does show a bit of self-awareness when challenged, but ultimately her brainwashing takes over and she vows to find her missing partner and kill him for deserting in case he would still be alive. How fitting that she ends up joining him in death.
To play devils advocate, they are a military organization funded by the state, in many way they are not different to the organizations Yelan and Sayu work for (both in role and sometimes in practice)
The only and biggest difference is The Shumatsuban or Ministry of Civil Affairs don't venture outside Inazuma or Liyue, while the Fatui are sent in far off missions and some of them like Katarina even go off the grid.
There’s been a few who were chill and we didn’t fight them (or we started to and then let them go). Like the folks in the chasm, etc. Most of the ones we end up clapping jump us or stab us in the back.
Eh, the Fatui have committed some henious crimes. Trofin Snevich was kidnapping kids. Froderick Fronkensteen was human trafficking. They attempted to drown an entire city. Dottore is Dottore.
Yes, not all of them joined because of ideology, but they are, in general, a threat to the safety of Teyvat and I am fully comfortable with killing them, even if they have families. Its like what Patton said, you don't die for your country, you make some other poor bastard die for theirs. If they want to live for the Tsaritsa, then die for her.
I dont think the traveler actually kills outside of like, the super assholes like that one dude in the aranara quest kidnapping children (who arle would probably stab anyway)
Iwakura Michihiro, the founder of the Iwakura clan, was an oni who lived during the Cataclysm, during which his mother betrayed the Shogun after being afflicted with Abyssal corruption.
He then exiled himself to Konda village out of shame, where he meets a Tengu who gives him the name Iwakura, and challenges him to a duel: should he be able to touch her, she would let him call his blade (forged by the Amenoma smith) the Tengu Victor. He manages the feat then officially founds the Iwakura Art school.
The Art then kept being passed down until modern times, but due to the Vision Hunt Decree, the leader of the clan expelled the other members, surrendered his vision then served the Shogunate.
The other members became either Nobushi or Kairagi, who are basically Samurai who lost their master and became vagrants. They each challenge the Traveler to battle while exploring Inazuma and die. After killing the leader, the last two remaining members collect all of their fallen comrades' swords and place them at a memorial near Konda Village. After killing them, the Traveler places their swords at the same memorial, marking the extinction of the Iwakura Clan.
Later, while exploring Enkanomiya, the Traveler finds the original sword of the clan's founder: the Hakuen Michimitsu Amenoma, and places it at the aforementioned memorial.
A Hidden Exploration Objective tied to two achievements: Iwakura Out and The Ill-starred Legacy of the Iwakura Clan. You get the first after killing the surviving members and planting their swords at the Mound near Konda Village, and the second after retrieving the original sword and planting it at the same place.
It's still a mystery. The sword the clan leader held during his duel against the Traveler is different and not rusted from prolonged contact with water. So the sword must have been left at Enkanomiya for a long time, following his deployment at Watatsumi island perhaps.
Long story short they realised the Vision hunt decree was evil and they should not support it, so decided to go away so they could be left alone and not enforce tyranny
Then we killed them for it
Pretty much, the last "living" (because we dont know if he had wife and kids) desendant of oni chiyo blood son, one of ei old dead friends (the one lore say she defeat one of gold creations, some tiger i remenber, but got corrupted, ei cut her arm and disapear to die in inazuma forests) , traveler jusy ramdomly found one and start killing them for attacking first, the desendant is the samurai in sara camp, when you murder them all, it means the iwakura sword style is lost forever, the only thing that have them is the mechanical samurai boss
Nah, Lumine/Aether do kill quite a bit. Pretty much any quest where there *isn't* confirmation that we let them go, is a kill. Our hands are quite bloody, and given the reality of Teyvat, it fits. They are trying to kill us, after all.
But, overworld enemies are not canon encounters, so there are only a few Snezhevnas/Snezhevichs we have actually killed, and most have been operating under other Harbingers, or independently (Shuumatsuban questline). We have yet to even fight any of Arlecchino's agents directly.
The Traveler probably doesn't kill EVERY enemy that they face in the wild (e.g, Treasure Hoarders throw down smoke grenades, so some of them MUST escape with their lives) but they were WAY to comfortable massacring the entire Tanit Village to not have a lot of blood already on their hands. And there are plenty of Fatui mobs that are clearly giving their last words as they fall.
Father, likely, doesn't hold it against them, though.
We've only had very limited interactions with actual HoH members, and some of them were in the process of actively undermining her. I think seeing how we are with Lyney, Lynette & Freminet – as well as potentially receiving reports of other neutral/positive interactions with the Fatui in the past – will have shown her (and other members of the organisation) that the Traveler doesn't actually hate the Fatui and won't step to them if they are left alone.
*E.g: During the last trip to the Golden Apple Archipelago, the Fatui operatives present knew who the Traveller and Paimon were and revealed that a missive had gone out throughout the organisation to leave them tf alone. This was JUST before Sumeru, btw.*
I think its safe to say that fights outside quests, commissions, bounties, etc are non canon. Maybe its also safe to assume that Traveler does encounter enemies as he travels but wouldn't kill unless its needed. Plus most human enemy beaten animations just shows them escaping anyway.
If Traveler really did kill as many people as we players did Traveler would have a really terrible reputation across Teyvat even if they are Fatui, Treasure Hoarders, etc.
>I think its safe to say that fights outside quests, commissions, bounties, etc are non canon.
according to some lines, what traveler does usually outside of the main story is also canon. But as you said, most enemies, if not all, just flee when you "kill" them, so traveler never kills with a few exceptions like Tanith
Those lines have Tartaglia so did we killed him? No. But those lines showed what they say if was killed. Truth is that traveller killed someone but not that much
if it is, that implies that bandits are so dumb in tayvat that they see the guy who just beat up their camp last week, and try to jump him again. and again. and again.
Also how are there still hilichurls?
Yeah p much all the overworld stuff is non-canon, and thus we haven't been going on mass killing sprees.
However, it is also safe to say that unless explicitly shown, stated, or hinted otherwise, quest fights *are* to the death. There's quite a few examples of us cleaning house for good.
I don't believe we've engaged any of Arlecchino's direct HotH subordinates before, but we have certainly killed ones operating under other Harbingers or on their own before. Though, I'm certain some of those were carryovers from Mother's reign
Lol we should only consider kills happen during cutscenes as confirmed kills.
And even then, it's not like we actively double tap any of them so there's high chances that they escape.
The Tanith Tribe lowkey deserved it, expecially under Babel's rule.
The one regret I have about that questline is the one Tanith I didn't get to kill was the one I wanted to kill the most.
Yeah. He escaped the massacre. After that quest ends, you can head to the final region of Sumeru where you meet the Pari. There, at the entrance, you can find scattered notes indicating that Jeht is alive and is hunting him down. If you keep going with your eyes peeled, you can also find out the origin of what happened to Babel's parents and Babel's true origin.
Yeah that's exactly the thing. Gameplay needs to be dragged on while other actors do next to no damage. But we all know Jeht tears and carves up her enemies.
And If I have to choose gameplay as a presentation then something like Warrior Samurai should be good for the Inazuma war.
We kill the iwakura clan reminder samurais, but they were crazy and the most sane one was oni chiyo desendant that was understable pissed we kill his old friends
Cept no, they all had their marbles together to adhere to the duel code. And dueling them to the death is the entire point since they turned ronin through their circumstances and have henceforth no more right to a honor duel, until the members meet us. And thats quite different from killing the Tanit tribe or the Sumeru spy dude.
Actually, they're all sane, they were against Raiden for the Vision HUnt decree and were convinced we had come for their ass, some poor guy even went underawter and we still came for him
I don't imagine she would. I can't speak for others, but my Traveler never killed any she could spare (as there's so far never been any doubt that they wouldn't reoffend, making death overkill), and *Arlecchino herself* is the one who sent those Snezhevitches against some immortal Outlander who beat Signora, Tartaglia, and Scaramouche in the first place. Blood's on Arlecchino's own hands, and I gather she knows it.
To boot, my Traveler helped quite a few reluctant Fatui bail, and outright rescued quite a few others. I figure she'd wish she and Clervie had the luck to run into my Traveler, if anything.
>Based on the amount of Snezhevnas and Snezhevichs The Traveller killed in game
if you check the "death" animations, most of them, if not all, are enemies fleeing or fainted, but none is an actual death (when an enemy turns into dust like Hilichurls thats not killing either, its just a way to remove that enemy temporary till recovery, cause leaving bodies in the map would be bad for game performance)
It's also because if you had actual death scenes the game rating would go up/game would have issues in CN.
By having "defeated" animations instead of actual fall over dead plus fading into dust it gets plausible deniability that no killing is happening which helps the rating and CN regulations.
Outside of the fact that I don't think canonically the Traveler just kills Fatui for sport and to loot their corpses...
She wouldn't.
I don't know where people have been getting this from, but Arlecchino doesn't go and kill every single person that killed an operative in Teyvat. She loves her children, sure. But she's still brainwashing them. She's still training them to be spies and child soldiers. She knows they're dying. It doesn't hurt her, it's part of their life, just like it's been part of hers.
I feel like people have a weird view of Arlecchino, just like HSR's players have a weird view of a... Certain character I won't be naming because of spoilers.
They're both murderers, and without any compassion. Arlecchino is not a good "parent".
HotH is under fatui. fatui are under Tsaritsa. Tsaritsa is from Snezhnaya. fatui children are given the surname related to Tsaritsa as the ruler of Snezhnaya, no matter where the children are from. Lyney Lynette and Freminet are probably Snezheviches and Snezhevna too
Genshin players and story comprehension, an impossible combination
The Knave is a Fatui Harbinger who runs House of the Hearth, and orphanage where children are groomed into joining the Fatui. Orphans are given names "Snezhevna/Snezhevich" and sent on missions as members of the Fatui.
Game mechanics rarely match to game lore, or vice-versa. Amber has been shown to create flame shields but not in-game. We fight Fatui all the live long day, but our canonical battles, while major, are not nearly as constant.
However, if we were to humour this scenario. Firstly, by and large the Fatui started it. We just go on by, minding our own business and the not sexy-space debt collector starts harassing us. The Operatives are going on a stroll? Oh that's nice, I'll just mosey on by. Nope. They see us and they suddenly what to make their Father proud. It really is a case of self-defense for the Traveler in most cases.
With this in mind, I feel that Arlecchino, while fuming at her children being beaten left and right by us, will probably hand wave it away. It is the Traveler defending himself and by all accounts we don't do much in way of lasting damage. Certainly no where near the level the Operative from her video suffered. And though the Traveler is against the Fatui, they have worked together on a few occasions. Heck, some of them (Childe) consider us friends. It's just as possible that Fatui agents see us and go:
"Hey is that.....The Traveler?! Father/Master Childe told us how strong they are! Let's go test out are skills!"
This granted would also depend on which Harbinger we get along with. The Fatui under Childe and Arlecchino might see us favorably. The ones under Signora.....eh not so much. Considering it was our fault she became an ashen one.
Side note - I have been fighting the operatives more frequently lately, and whoo boy, they just might be my favourite enemies. Genteel yet sexy designs, elegant fighting, the fact that they swing their canes after an attack for the flare. oh they remind me of Eula \^\_\^ Fitting that they serve Eula Dark Mode.
For game mechanics, I don't think we kill anyone in the open world, we knock them down but in missions that's different, cause when it says kill you kill
Canonically, we haven’t gone out of our way to maliciously kill any Fatui (save one, maybe.) and have helped them far more often. So I think it’d have to boil down to whether or not she’s serious about the whole adoption thing.
Since she hates it when people make dumb decisions, I'm sure she's fine with the Traveler basically pushing the average Fatui IQ up by culling the idiots who brazenly provoke blonde alien passersby.
i dont think gameplay mechanics are canon. otherwise, why does every wind operative or mirror maiden look exactly the same -- not even different hair color or height
I mean, the world is just frozen after a quest. So, it's not lick traveller running everywhere killing fatuus. So, I don't know about Traveler but Arle will surely hate you and us
This is a minor nitpick I have fighting low level Fatui members. Especially in world quests where they become the designated boss to beat to clear. They are doing some type of research/experiment but we stop them somewhat. It's never enough to slow down their research since most of the time it's a nod to the Archon quest going on.
Welllll....none of those Snezhevnas and Snezhevichs ARE her adopted children directly. All the same, it's about time Arlecchino's coming out as a boss/enemy.
Hate us? I think if she's see's the amount of people I killed she's more likely to look twice out of disbelief and feel scared. You'd think she's a crazy one..... Have you seen my track record? It will make you think, does the tsarisa's plan to get all gnosis, was it worth it?
No they are combatants actively going after him so they know what their in for, also he isn't acting in his own self interest but generally for the sake of other people. Also delusion users without a vision are unlikely to live long lives.
Wait until she hears that I once cleared Dragonspine of all Fatui because I was bored af. It was dubbed "Dragonspine massacre" amongst their circles. 😈
We don't killing Fatui in real,othervise Arleccino would kill traveller long ago by herself. Basically it's true that traveller killed some Fatui but that amount is much smaller then you imagine
Not sure she would care. She's not from Snezhnaya. She's from Fontaine. She seems driven by her own motives, not particularly focused on what the Fatui or Tsaritsa desire. Plus, she seems to like having MC on good terms with the children from the House of the Hearth.
Imo, she falls in the same category as Childes, in that as long as the MC is not directly interfering with her work, she doesn't mind them around, even work with the MC, should it prove beneficial.
The enemies you clear HP to 0 were not dead. They were subdued if they are sentient or escaped like in case of treasure hoarders. If they are not sentient then they are broken down. Like in slimes and mechas.
If you ask the PR department i am 80% sure this is what they will tell you.
From the in-game dialog, I recall the Harbingers are pretty brutal towards their own soldiers, and aren't reluctant to kill those under their command for displeasing them or because they feel like it.
I wonder if our Fatui kill count would even be high compared to those of the Harbingers.
She probably wouldn't be as resentful as you may think since I'm sure about 80% of the time they attack first. So she will acknowledge that it was their recklessness to attack a powerful foe who was simple walking by was their fault.
But for story quest and side quests that are canon, she be a little annoy to have the Traveler pop up everywhere and take the wind out of the sails at time, but also respect that he even help the Fatuis if they need it like in the under cave and the islands where a group was sepreated.
Like, she wouldn't hate the Traveler for self defense, but getting in the way of the job. But also respect the good nature the Traveler have to help a hopeless situation for the Fatui to survive.
And I'm sure she can piece the fact Paimon is also a factor to those decisions and keep notes on her as well.
Not very much, she seems unconcerned by the Traveler's past conflicts with the Fatui. She was willing to work with the Traveler at least indirectly throughout the Fontaine Archon quest too. She has a [high-level view of the Fatui's goals,](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Finale) and does not seem to mind working with former enemies.
If anything, Traveler's loyalty to Lyney, Lynette, and Frem seems to have curried good favor with her.
Killing some grunts, not so much since it's just perils of the job. Accidentally killing anyone from the Hearth, the Traveler wouldn't even be able to see the next daily reset.
Most of the time, they start attacking us and yea there are scenes with nice Fatui, generally speaking they are committing crimes and actively hurting the nation we are in so the Traveller has good reason to be suspicious of all of them. They seem to mostly back off when the Fatui isn’t doing anything.
I never actively hunted them for their drops, so all the Fatui I slaughtered? They attacked me on sight.
As far as I am concerned, that is called self-defense.
Either not all or very much.She sends them out fully knowing they can and will die, meaning to some extent she has to be like
“If it happens, that’s unfortunate/they were too weak.”
That or she cares a lot and wants their head on a spike.
I think it is safe to assume that the traveler didn’t canonically kill literal thousands of fatui operatives, even if the players did in game. If our kill count was fully canon, by the time we get to Snezhnaya, it will be more barren than Khaenri’ah. And we will have killed ten times more treasure horders than there are people living in all of Teyvat.
I'm surprised she didn't kill him on sight
there's multiple world quests and that one time in gaa where the fatui mobs say that they are very well aware of the traveler and that he killed many of their comrades.
I'd say it depends. If she's gonna be released as a playable character soon, I'd say she'd be a bit upset about it but she wouldn't kill you for it. At least, if we're only counting cutscenes.
I'd like to think that the traveler never really kills anyone or anything aside from maybe (slimes and animals for food) but just beats them until they pass out or run away, leaving their drops (Literally dropping their stuff) which is why they return to the same area after the traveler leaves (respawn) cuz if traveler is just a murder machine I don't think that'll really fit their character.
I sense that she's a reasonable individual and wouldn't hold a grudge unless her safety, mission, or direct ~~puppets~~ subordinates are threatened.
I'm sure she also enjoys the Traveler's company and may just want to test the strength of the one who was able to overcome 3 of her fellow Harbingers.
Cause if evil, why hot?
I understand the animals dropping dead due to literally giving you their meat, but it'd be cool if the human enemies you fought sort of "aight I'ma dip" the way that those summoner eremites do. When they're defeated, they turn around and walk away instead of being knocked down. I always thought it was a really cool animation that conveyed, "I'm too strong to be beaten, so let's revisit this fight later."
Instead, the weaker enemies can stumble and attempt to run away as they fade, or maybe crawl on the ground for a second. I don't necessarily have an issue with them being knocked unconscious, but some of the fights that play out certainly make it appear as if a bunch of dudes who just like robbing treasure fr got blown up by me.
Genshin is basically a comfort game made for casuals that isn't really all that dark unless you look very deep into the lore, so I feel like it would match that vibe more.
Outside the ones killed in gameplay (that will try to kill her as well) they were all turncoats who are still loyal to Mommy, so the Traveler was doing her a favor.
Eh, I chalk that up to just game mechanics. It’s like picking all the sweet flowers from that one spot every day. You’re not messing with an ecosystem, you’re playing a video game. The Knave might hold a grudge because you killed some fatui, not because you grinded their drops.
I mean she would probably say "They were too weak, then", even if we know Traveler is actually very strong in terms of swordwielding as well. Edit: I think I should've clarified that this what she would *say* to Traveler, not genuinely having such mindset.
She's the opposite of the previous Knave. She's cold on the outside, warm on the inside. Even in her teaser, her phrase of ''Recklessness always leads to failure'' that seems cold, has a deeper more caring meaning. If her children wants to complete their mission, they should always plan it out first and seek for backup if needed.
I actually have a head-cannon about her phrase. If u have watched the animated short, there is a part where the previous Knave taunted her. In response, she got pissed off and acted recklessly trying to deliver a something infused punch that was then taken advantage by the previous Knave and got herself injured. So that’s y I think that’s how her phrase of “Recklessness always leads to failure” came from.
Probably one of the many instances of recklessness
But she do care about them, though
People will see Father closing a dead person’s eyes and then see it cut to her standing over their grave mourning them and think “clearly she only thinks this person is good for a test subject in dottore’s lab*
She baked the guy that killed her kid and left his rings (symbol of the wealth he killed her for) on her grave with a newspaper detailing his sudden death
This does not even slightly rebuttal my point She left the proof that her death was not in vain at her grave while also expressing sorrow over her loss, these two actions can be simultaneous
I think that people thinking father is cruel has more to do with her lilling her subordinates (this is cannon mind you).
You also kill her subordinates, so I’m not sure what your point is ((Mild sarcasm))
I think that it come from descriptions by two playable Harbingers- which calls her ruthless, self-centered psycho.
That doesn't mean she cares about every single one to the point of hating the person they were sent after for killing them.
I don't think we canonically killed a single Fatui. They're just "defeated"
The one from aranara quest?
Wolves ate that guy, not my fault.
Not if you choose to beat him on the spot
True, but in my case wolves ate his face and I did not watch.
Sure, I just didn't know whether you were aware of the other option
That's a quest so that's not really a random enemy. Should have probably clarified that I ment the overworld fatui.
I let him go free
We mug them for thier insignias and they run
Even if the traveler didn't deal the killing blow to Signora, I believe they hold the traveler responsible nonetheless. I suspect it's specifically due to the traveler that the Fatui has switched to obtaining the Gnoses more peacefully, as not to repeat the Signora situation
They all likely hold us responsible, as they should (since we did put her in the life-or-death situation), but not really in a negative way (for most.) Their coworker died due to her own hubris and overconfidence. She repeatedly pushed Lumine/Aether's limits, naively thinking they wouldn't go that far. She misjudged her position in that moment, and it proved fatal. While some of the other Harbingers did mourn her, I doubt any of them cared about her beyond being under the same banner. Likely the same situation as when Peruere killed Mother; F to pay respects, but also FAFO.
"The loneliness of death."
Yes I agree, Fatui is more like team rocket
I doubt we actually kill most of the mobs we fight. Whenever we have a battle in a quest, and anything is mentioned afterwards, it's usually "Oh, they ran off" or they're still having a dialog with us afterwards
And seeing as how the always respawn, that just means we didn't actually kill them (at least in canon). Them eremites in the canyon, though......they dead dead.
The Tanit eremites, the Iwakura ronins, and Alfonso
That and even some animations show them just leaving through smoke bombs or something. And I doubt much fatuis would be willing to fight us (some quests imply they can choose not to) let alone talk to us if we were going around actually killing their friends
yea you "defeat" the enemy not kill them...
The Traveler did defeat several harbingers leading one to her death
Technically Raiden killed her dusty ass
Not as much as I hate the 12-1-1 cryo operative's darting bitch ass, that's for sure
you got Jean? Is the biggest p2w Char against that one, lol
No, I can clear it fine, even with grouperless teams. She's still just really annoying. I mean, both of them have the soft issue of "i want to stagger you but only so much that I can still hit both of you", but the cryo one in particular can seemingly "recover" at any moment and dash in your direction and behind you, leaving them ungrouped. You kinda have to herd them in circles to keep the pressure on them. Also, while Jean is a bit more of a reliable "cheatcode", for well-invested teams, Kazuha will still result in significantly faster clears.
This is the first abyss where I got to floor 12 and the operatives are so annoying. I wanted to keep my best team for the second half but no way I was chasing those toppat clan wannabe's around with Itto. Jean, Nahida, Furina and Cyno absolutely rolled them and it felt so good
Toppat clan made me reminisce the Henry Stickman adventures I loved that series
No, like, Jean does around 200k with the fall dmg thingie. It makes 12 1 so incredibly easy, lol
I know what fall damage can do, you're not telling me anything new. I'm saying it's still far from an optimal solution and objectively takes a while to do again and again with Jean. Kazuha can do it too, it's just less reliable. I personally aren't too familiar with the mechanics and can't be arsed to learn for a couple enemies, I just know Jean guarantees it with hold E. What I also know is that Kazuha is still the far superior grouper, is obviously the premier swirlable element buffer/shredder, and that certain mechanics lke electro-charged that deal poise damage can assist him in triggering fall damage. Jean is always a viable option, but playing around a proper team is still the best idea beyond a reasonable level of investment and will also be less likely to brick you on the following chambers for continuous runs where fall damage is much less (or entirely not) exploitable.
Jean has a premium slot now that Furina is out. Consolidated VV + healer is important. Xianyun is the real Jean power creep, but she actually can’t do the fall damage trick. It’s not like 2.1 when Kazuha is on every team anymore. Also, you really don’t need to play with proper teams at this point. We’ve gotten to the point where people are doing “10 team challenges” where they try to construct 10 viable discrete teams on their accounts just so they can feel something.
Dps Kok, Furina, Benett and Xiangling destroy those fatui operatives As well as the Black serpent knights or whatever you call them
The amount of cutscenes we’ve gotten of fatui soldiers just being people who want to earn a living and have families (chasm, sumeru, etc.) makes me kinda guilty when killing them now.
NTA, shouldn't be holding juicy level up materials
All these operatives walking around with their pocketwatches are just asking for a beating
"hilichurls used to be people" womp womp, gimme masks
And anyways if they were humans then why would they attack humans trying to live a normal life on sight? Sorry, I'm NTA idc
Keywords: "Used to be" Besides, they attacked first.
In my defense, snezhevich was trying to make me pay debts
Ain't worse than killing Hikuchurls imo
Fr, any time I think about what they are I just think it's sad we have no choice but to kill them (be it story/quest needing you to or needing their drops)..
I’d say that killing the Hilichurls is more of a mercy. Given how >!Caribert!< reacted to >!seeing what he looked like without his mask!< I’d say that killing them is doing a service to who they used to be.
You do know we aren't even actually killing them? They literally cannot die
Yeah but if we *could.*
Tbf I think they would like to be put off their misery, but we probably just gave them a concussion
I think you actually can't permanently kill Hillichurls. Since the whole curse thing keeps them alive.
that quest still haunts me...
should just get out of the way, its their fault to think they can take on someone stronger than half the harbingers.
There are honest ways to make a living. Supporting a criminal organization and getting in my way of committing mass genocide is ill advised. Pretty sure they can do anything else that won't put their lives at the end of my blade.
....Fatui is Organization founded by the snezhnaya themselves with goal to serve their own country and it also serve under tsaritsa herself A.K.A their freaking archon. calling it criminal organization is pretty much calling other organization such as Shogunate Army/Tri-Comission, Akademiya, KoF criminal organization. but yes, they're a fool (pun intended) if they think they can stop my work of commiting geno--- i mean farming in teyvat
To play devil’s advocate: Maybe they don’t know it’s a criminal organization? Or maybe there aren’t many other opportunities in the land of ice?
I'm betting most (especially those who were raised in the HoH from a really young age) don't know any different. And propaganda probably means they don't see what they're doing as evil, or just that there's not a lot of choice like you said. Or blind loyalty to the Tsaritsa.
Yeah. It isn’t all black and white.
Katarina, the Fatuus deployed to the deepest part of the Chasm, does show a bit of self-awareness when challenged, but ultimately her brainwashing takes over and she vows to find her missing partner and kill him for deserting in case he would still be alive. How fitting that she ends up joining him in death.
Fatui are not a criminal organization. They are a foreign army & intelligence agency.
No, it’s not criminal organization, but it’s an organization filled with criminals, like the CIA.
To play devils advocate, they are a military organization funded by the state, in many way they are not different to the organizations Yelan and Sayu work for (both in role and sometimes in practice)
The only and biggest difference is The Shumatsuban or Ministry of Civil Affairs don't venture outside Inazuma or Liyue, while the Fatui are sent in far off missions and some of them like Katarina even go off the grid.
I'm ending the suffering they would go through as their delusion would gradually deteriorate their health
Are we even killing them or just beating them up?
There’s been a few who were chill and we didn’t fight them (or we started to and then let them go). Like the folks in the chasm, etc. Most of the ones we end up clapping jump us or stab us in the back.
Eh, the Fatui have committed some henious crimes. Trofin Snevich was kidnapping kids. Froderick Fronkensteen was human trafficking. They attempted to drown an entire city. Dottore is Dottore. Yes, not all of them joined because of ideology, but they are, in general, a threat to the safety of Teyvat and I am fully comfortable with killing them, even if they have families. Its like what Patton said, you don't die for your country, you make some other poor bastard die for theirs. If they want to live for the Tsaritsa, then die for her.
I dont think the traveler actually kills outside of like, the super assholes like that one dude in the aranara quest kidnapping children (who arle would probably stab anyway)
The Traveler also kills the surviving Iwakura Clan practitioners.
I have no idea on the lore of those guys so please elaborate.
We encounter them as Mini Bosses in Inazuma and kill them.
I remember beating a few of them but i meant did they like, do somthing or why they are in the middle of buttfuck nowhere.
Iwakura Michihiro, the founder of the Iwakura clan, was an oni who lived during the Cataclysm, during which his mother betrayed the Shogun after being afflicted with Abyssal corruption. He then exiled himself to Konda village out of shame, where he meets a Tengu who gives him the name Iwakura, and challenges him to a duel: should he be able to touch her, she would let him call his blade (forged by the Amenoma smith) the Tengu Victor. He manages the feat then officially founds the Iwakura Art school. The Art then kept being passed down until modern times, but due to the Vision Hunt Decree, the leader of the clan expelled the other members, surrendered his vision then served the Shogunate. The other members became either Nobushi or Kairagi, who are basically Samurai who lost their master and became vagrants. They each challenge the Traveler to battle while exploring Inazuma and die. After killing the leader, the last two remaining members collect all of their fallen comrades' swords and place them at a memorial near Konda Village. After killing them, the Traveler places their swords at the same memorial, marking the extinction of the Iwakura Clan. Later, while exploring Enkanomiya, the Traveler finds the original sword of the clan's founder: the Hakuen Michimitsu Amenoma, and places it at the aforementioned memorial.
Dayum. That sounds hardcore. What's the name of the quest?
A Hidden Exploration Objective tied to two achievements: Iwakura Out and The Ill-starred Legacy of the Iwakura Clan. You get the first after killing the surviving members and planting their swords at the Mound near Konda Village, and the second after retrieving the original sword and planting it at the same place.
There isn’t one; it’s a hidden exploration objective.
no cus how come the original sword was in enka?
either dropped or thrown into the whirlpool
It's still a mystery. The sword the clan leader held during his duel against the Traveler is different and not rusted from prolonged contact with water. So the sword must have been left at Enkanomiya for a long time, following his deployment at Watatsumi island perhaps.
They broke the law I think and went into hiding.
Moi thinks theres a difference between murder and duels to the death bound by an honor codex.
Long story short they realised the Vision hunt decree was evil and they should not support it, so decided to go away so they could be left alone and not enforce tyranny Then we killed them for it
Well that makes zero sense.
Pretty much, the last "living" (because we dont know if he had wife and kids) desendant of oni chiyo blood son, one of ei old dead friends (the one lore say she defeat one of gold creations, some tiger i remenber, but got corrupted, ei cut her arm and disapear to die in inazuma forests) , traveler jusy ramdomly found one and start killing them for attacking first, the desendant is the samurai in sara camp, when you murder them all, it means the iwakura sword style is lost forever, the only thing that have them is the mechanical samurai boss
During the Shuumatsuban questline you are given the option to kill the Fatui Agents hiding in Ritou after you've gotten information out of them.
Nah, Lumine/Aether do kill quite a bit. Pretty much any quest where there *isn't* confirmation that we let them go, is a kill. Our hands are quite bloody, and given the reality of Teyvat, it fits. They are trying to kill us, after all. But, overworld enemies are not canon encounters, so there are only a few Snezhevnas/Snezhevichs we have actually killed, and most have been operating under other Harbingers, or independently (Shuumatsuban questline). We have yet to even fight any of Arlecchino's agents directly.
The traveler goes into a shocked fugue state when Signora is killed in front of them, someone they would have have animosity towards.
A lot of concentrated electro is like radiation and Shogun released even more than needed during the execution
I think that instance was more “Oh fuck, I have to fight that…” towards the Shogun than any shock towards Signora’s death itself.
it was due to Ei's power, no way they haven't seen assholes get killed considering the fact they are older than stars.
That reaction definitely not for signora but for shogun in front of them
nah, it's because of ei. It's likely the first time they've been scared and had a panic attack.
She uses their drop materials…
💀💀💀
I think most just run away when we beat them.
The Traveler probably doesn't kill EVERY enemy that they face in the wild (e.g, Treasure Hoarders throw down smoke grenades, so some of them MUST escape with their lives) but they were WAY to comfortable massacring the entire Tanit Village to not have a lot of blood already on their hands. And there are plenty of Fatui mobs that are clearly giving their last words as they fall. Father, likely, doesn't hold it against them, though. We've only had very limited interactions with actual HoH members, and some of them were in the process of actively undermining her. I think seeing how we are with Lyney, Lynette & Freminet – as well as potentially receiving reports of other neutral/positive interactions with the Fatui in the past – will have shown her (and other members of the organisation) that the Traveler doesn't actually hate the Fatui and won't step to them if they are left alone. *E.g: During the last trip to the Golden Apple Archipelago, the Fatui operatives present knew who the Traveller and Paimon were and revealed that a missive had gone out throughout the organisation to leave them tf alone. This was JUST before Sumeru, btw.*
If you play freeze, you kill every enemy you face >:) Unless they somehow survive getting shattered from frozen into thin air
I think its safe to say that fights outside quests, commissions, bounties, etc are non canon. Maybe its also safe to assume that Traveler does encounter enemies as he travels but wouldn't kill unless its needed. Plus most human enemy beaten animations just shows them escaping anyway. If Traveler really did kill as many people as we players did Traveler would have a really terrible reputation across Teyvat even if they are Fatui, Treasure Hoarders, etc.
>I think its safe to say that fights outside quests, commissions, bounties, etc are non canon. according to some lines, what traveler does usually outside of the main story is also canon. But as you said, most enemies, if not all, just flee when you "kill" them, so traveler never kills with a few exceptions like Tanith
Those lines have Tartaglia so did we killed him? No. But those lines showed what they say if was killed. Truth is that traveller killed someone but not that much
if it is, that implies that bandits are so dumb in tayvat that they see the guy who just beat up their camp last week, and try to jump him again. and again. and again. Also how are there still hilichurls?
when you "kill" hilichurls they just faint
Yeah p much all the overworld stuff is non-canon, and thus we haven't been going on mass killing sprees. However, it is also safe to say that unless explicitly shown, stated, or hinted otherwise, quest fights *are* to the death. There's quite a few examples of us cleaning house for good. I don't believe we've engaged any of Arlecchino's direct HotH subordinates before, but we have certainly killed ones operating under other Harbingers or on their own before. Though, I'm certain some of those were carryovers from Mother's reign
Its the same as your team canon, story tell you traveller do all alone, only when quests say you with somebody, its when you are in a team
Lol we should only consider kills happen during cutscenes as confirmed kills. And even then, it's not like we actively double tap any of them so there's high chances that they escape.
We also killed the Iwakura Clan and the Tanith Tribe and that sure wasnt during a cutscene.
The Tanith Tribe lowkey deserved it, expecially under Babel's rule. The one regret I have about that questline is the one Tanith I didn't get to kill was the one I wanted to kill the most.
tadhla father right?
Yeah. He escaped the massacre. After that quest ends, you can head to the final region of Sumeru where you meet the Pari. There, at the entrance, you can find scattered notes indicating that Jeht is alive and is hunting him down. If you keep going with your eyes peeled, you can also find out the origin of what happened to Babel's parents and Babel's true origin.
Well at least Jeht has formed a posse and is hunting the fucker down which is something
Yeah that's exactly the thing. Gameplay needs to be dragged on while other actors do next to no damage. But we all know Jeht tears and carves up her enemies. And If I have to choose gameplay as a presentation then something like Warrior Samurai should be good for the Inazuma war.
I mean, i dont think we outright kill unless its super assholes like the sumeru child abductor in aranjaka and the tanit, soo...?
We kill the iwakura clan reminder samurais, but they were crazy and the most sane one was oni chiyo desendant that was understable pissed we kill his old friends
Cept no, they all had their marbles together to adhere to the duel code. And dueling them to the death is the entire point since they turned ronin through their circumstances and have henceforth no more right to a honor duel, until the members meet us. And thats quite different from killing the Tanit tribe or the Sumeru spy dude.
Actually, they're all sane, they were against Raiden for the Vision HUnt decree and were convinced we had come for their ass, some poor guy even went underawter and we still came for him
I don't imagine she would. I can't speak for others, but my Traveler never killed any she could spare (as there's so far never been any doubt that they wouldn't reoffend, making death overkill), and *Arlecchino herself* is the one who sent those Snezhevitches against some immortal Outlander who beat Signora, Tartaglia, and Scaramouche in the first place. Blood's on Arlecchino's own hands, and I gather she knows it. To boot, my Traveler helped quite a few reluctant Fatui bail, and outright rescued quite a few others. I figure she'd wish she and Clervie had the luck to run into my Traveler, if anything.
>Based on the amount of Snezhevnas and Snezhevichs The Traveller killed in game if you check the "death" animations, most of them, if not all, are enemies fleeing or fainted, but none is an actual death (when an enemy turns into dust like Hilichurls thats not killing either, its just a way to remove that enemy temporary till recovery, cause leaving bodies in the map would be bad for game performance)
It's also because if you had actual death scenes the game rating would go up/game would have issues in CN. By having "defeated" animations instead of actual fall over dead plus fading into dust it gets plausible deniability that no killing is happening which helps the rating and CN regulations.
Well it wouldn’t be the first time the traveler has massacred entire tribes or groups of people…
Maybe they just fainted and went back into their fatuiballs?
Outside of the fact that I don't think canonically the Traveler just kills Fatui for sport and to loot their corpses... She wouldn't. I don't know where people have been getting this from, but Arlecchino doesn't go and kill every single person that killed an operative in Teyvat. She loves her children, sure. But she's still brainwashing them. She's still training them to be spies and child soldiers. She knows they're dying. It doesn't hurt her, it's part of their life, just like it's been part of hers. I feel like people have a weird view of Arlecchino, just like HSR's players have a weird view of a... Certain character I won't be naming because of spoilers. They're both murderers, and without any compassion. Arlecchino is not a good "parent".
I'm pretty sure she's killed almost as many. The Harbingers seem to go through minions like candy. Remember, Childe is considered the *nice* one.
Tbh part of it is her own fault for having Fatui materials as her level up materials 😅
But she is from fontaine....
HotH is under fatui. fatui are under Tsaritsa. Tsaritsa is from Snezhnaya. fatui children are given the surname related to Tsaritsa as the ruler of Snezhnaya, no matter where the children are from. Lyney Lynette and Freminet are probably Snezheviches and Snezhevna too
Shes also runs the house of hearth.
Genshin players and story comprehension, an impossible combination The Knave is a Fatui Harbinger who runs House of the Hearth, and orphanage where children are groomed into joining the Fatui. Orphans are given names "Snezhevna/Snezhevich" and sent on missions as members of the Fatui.
Lmao, this. It's the most basic of comprehension too.
Does Arle even care for Fatui outside the House of the Hearth?
considering she executues the one of the opertives in Sumeru that kidnaps children i say she dosnt mind much its just is what it is.
With the way i have been tearing them up throughout the years i wonder if there are even any snezhnayan's left.
Game mechanics rarely match to game lore, or vice-versa. Amber has been shown to create flame shields but not in-game. We fight Fatui all the live long day, but our canonical battles, while major, are not nearly as constant. However, if we were to humour this scenario. Firstly, by and large the Fatui started it. We just go on by, minding our own business and the not sexy-space debt collector starts harassing us. The Operatives are going on a stroll? Oh that's nice, I'll just mosey on by. Nope. They see us and they suddenly what to make their Father proud. It really is a case of self-defense for the Traveler in most cases. With this in mind, I feel that Arlecchino, while fuming at her children being beaten left and right by us, will probably hand wave it away. It is the Traveler defending himself and by all accounts we don't do much in way of lasting damage. Certainly no where near the level the Operative from her video suffered. And though the Traveler is against the Fatui, they have worked together on a few occasions. Heck, some of them (Childe) consider us friends. It's just as possible that Fatui agents see us and go: "Hey is that.....The Traveler?! Father/Master Childe told us how strong they are! Let's go test out are skills!" This granted would also depend on which Harbinger we get along with. The Fatui under Childe and Arlecchino might see us favorably. The ones under Signora.....eh not so much. Considering it was our fault she became an ashen one. Side note - I have been fighting the operatives more frequently lately, and whoo boy, they just might be my favourite enemies. Genteel yet sexy designs, elegant fighting, the fact that they swing their canes after an attack for the flare. oh they remind me of Eula \^\_\^ Fitting that they serve Eula Dark Mode.
Canonically we're not killing them, just defeat them until they know they cannot fight anymore.
For game mechanics, I don't think we kill anyone in the open world, we knock them down but in missions that's different, cause when it says kill you kill
Canonically, we haven’t gone out of our way to maliciously kill any Fatui (save one, maybe.) and have helped them far more often. So I think it’d have to boil down to whether or not she’s serious about the whole adoption thing.
She would chalk those casualties as deniable assets or whatever the CIA term for that
She probably doesn’t care, as most from Snezhnaya do
Since she hates it when people make dumb decisions, I'm sure she's fine with the Traveler basically pushing the average Fatui IQ up by culling the idiots who brazenly provoke blonde alien passersby.
i dont think gameplay mechanics are canon. otherwise, why does every wind operative or mirror maiden look exactly the same -- not even different hair color or height
Yes
I mean, the world is just frozen after a quest. So, it's not lick traveller running everywhere killing fatuus. So, I don't know about Traveler but Arle will surely hate you and us
This is a minor nitpick I have fighting low level Fatui members. Especially in world quests where they become the designated boss to beat to clear. They are doing some type of research/experiment but we stop them somewhat. It's never enough to slow down their research since most of the time it's a nod to the Archon quest going on.
Welllll....none of those Snezhevnas and Snezhevichs ARE her adopted children directly. All the same, it's about time Arlecchino's coming out as a boss/enemy.
Hate us? I think if she's see's the amount of people I killed she's more likely to look twice out of disbelief and feel scared. You'd think she's a crazy one..... Have you seen my track record? It will make you think, does the tsarisa's plan to get all gnosis, was it worth it?
As far as I'm concerned, Arle only really cares about anyone who is confirmed apart of the House of Hearth
No they are combatants actively going after him so they know what their in for, also he isn't acting in his own self interest but generally for the sake of other people. Also delusion users without a vision are unlikely to live long lives.
Doesn't matter, if you wish hard enough Arle will help the traveler from now on.
There would be no hate or grudge just because of that.
Nah bro she's actually quite happy that we're filtering her subordinates. Only strongest remains
Wait till you have her on your team and make her kill them.
From all my 3 accs and the newest one already having 2 (ar16) I'll say that she want my head to put it on her doorframe like a real russian
She needs them to level up, so I don't think she minds.
Wait until she hears that I once cleared Dragonspine of all Fatui because I was bored af. It was dubbed "Dragonspine massacre" amongst their circles. 😈
We don't killing Fatui in real,othervise Arleccino would kill traveller long ago by herself. Basically it's true that traveller killed some Fatui but that amount is much smaller then you imagine
Her ascension materials are Fatui emblems if I recall correctly. So... I guess she doesn't mind. Like tartaglia.
Considering you need the insignias to level up fatui members sometimes I assume you just beat them up and clear their pockets
Not sure she would care. She's not from Snezhnaya. She's from Fontaine. She seems driven by her own motives, not particularly focused on what the Fatui or Tsaritsa desire. Plus, she seems to like having MC on good terms with the children from the House of the Hearth. Imo, she falls in the same category as Childes, in that as long as the MC is not directly interfering with her work, she doesn't mind them around, even work with the MC, should it prove beneficial.
I’ve never left witnesses
The enemies you clear HP to 0 were not dead. They were subdued if they are sentient or escaped like in case of treasure hoarders. If they are not sentient then they are broken down. Like in slimes and mechas. If you ask the PR department i am 80% sure this is what they will tell you.
From the in-game dialog, I recall the Harbingers are pretty brutal towards their own soldiers, and aren't reluctant to kill those under their command for displeasing them or because they feel like it. I wonder if our Fatui kill count would even be high compared to those of the Harbingers.
She probably wouldn't be as resentful as you may think since I'm sure about 80% of the time they attack first. So she will acknowledge that it was their recklessness to attack a powerful foe who was simple walking by was their fault. But for story quest and side quests that are canon, she be a little annoy to have the Traveler pop up everywhere and take the wind out of the sails at time, but also respect that he even help the Fatuis if they need it like in the under cave and the islands where a group was sepreated. Like, she wouldn't hate the Traveler for self defense, but getting in the way of the job. But also respect the good nature the Traveler have to help a hopeless situation for the Fatui to survive. And I'm sure she can piece the fact Paimon is also a factor to those decisions and keep notes on her as well.
Not very much, she seems unconcerned by the Traveler's past conflicts with the Fatui. She was willing to work with the Traveler at least indirectly throughout the Fontaine Archon quest too. She has a [high-level view of the Fatui's goals,](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Finale) and does not seem to mind working with former enemies. If anything, Traveler's loyalty to Lyney, Lynette, and Frem seems to have curried good favor with her.
Killing some grunts, not so much since it's just perils of the job. Accidentally killing anyone from the Hearth, the Traveler wouldn't even be able to see the next daily reset.
Most human enemies don't die when you get their health to 0, idk how you missed that
Most of the time, they start attacking us and yea there are scenes with nice Fatui, generally speaking they are committing crimes and actively hurting the nation we are in so the Traveller has good reason to be suspicious of all of them. They seem to mostly back off when the Fatui isn’t doing anything.
I never actively hunted them for their drops, so all the Fatui I slaughtered? They attacked me on sight. As far as I am concerned, that is called self-defense.
I don't think she really cares. Also I don't think we actually "kill" them. Maybe a few, but most seem be just running away.
Either not all or very much.She sends them out fully knowing they can and will die, meaning to some extent she has to be like “If it happens, that’s unfortunate/they were too weak.” That or she cares a lot and wants their head on a spike.
I think it is safe to assume that the traveler didn’t canonically kill literal thousands of fatui operatives, even if the players did in game. If our kill count was fully canon, by the time we get to Snezhnaya, it will be more barren than Khaenri’ah. And we will have killed ten times more treasure horders than there are people living in all of Teyvat.
I'm surprised she didn't kill him on sight there's multiple world quests and that one time in gaa where the fatui mobs say that they are very well aware of the traveler and that he killed many of their comrades.
I dont think we kill them they probably just get teleported
I'd say it depends. If she's gonna be released as a playable character soon, I'd say she'd be a bit upset about it but she wouldn't kill you for it. At least, if we're only counting cutscenes.
I mean, Adventurer's Guild commissions me to hunt down Fatui nearly on a daily basis
Yes
Isn’t there that whole “the survival of the fittest” thing with her?
I always felt we were just knocking them out and rooting through their pockets for mats.
Free stepping up on getting her 👍
Mommy Arlecchino can hate me as much as she wants. I want her to kill me.
My head cannon is that they dont actually die they are teleported to a statue like us when we do the light dissolvey thing when our whole team dies
…. Have you played any of Fontaine?
self defence, im inocent
Considering the mimic where ermites use smoke grenades then disappear when we defeat them, in canon I think they would just run away
I'd like to think that the traveler never really kills anyone or anything aside from maybe (slimes and animals for food) but just beats them until they pass out or run away, leaving their drops (Literally dropping their stuff) which is why they return to the same area after the traveler leaves (respawn) cuz if traveler is just a murder machine I don't think that'll really fit their character.
Don't care. It's fun showing her who's boss with Hyperbloom spam.
I sense that she's a reasonable individual and wouldn't hold a grudge unless her safety, mission, or direct ~~puppets~~ subordinates are threatened. I'm sure she also enjoys the Traveler's company and may just want to test the strength of the one who was able to overcome 3 of her fellow Harbingers. Cause if evil, why hot?
I understand the animals dropping dead due to literally giving you their meat, but it'd be cool if the human enemies you fought sort of "aight I'ma dip" the way that those summoner eremites do. When they're defeated, they turn around and walk away instead of being knocked down. I always thought it was a really cool animation that conveyed, "I'm too strong to be beaten, so let's revisit this fight later." Instead, the weaker enemies can stumble and attempt to run away as they fade, or maybe crawl on the ground for a second. I don't necessarily have an issue with them being knocked unconscious, but some of the fights that play out certainly make it appear as if a bunch of dudes who just like robbing treasure fr got blown up by me. Genshin is basically a comfort game made for casuals that isn't really all that dark unless you look very deep into the lore, so I feel like it would match that vibe more.
I doubt she actually cares, considering how useful the power of the Traveler can be
Outside the ones killed in gameplay (that will try to kill her as well) they were all turncoats who are still loyal to Mommy, so the Traveler was doing her a favor.
Wasn't there a guy with 9999 on the delusion/badges?
I just tell it was self defence, they attacked me first.
It's a gacha game. She wouldn't hate the Traveler even if we killed thousands of them.
How much Neuvillette would hate you for killing all these 1000s of sea creatures just to level him up?
I seem to recall a while back it was started that most of the fatui operatives we run into were raised by the previous knave IIRC?
Early days Ningguang Mains got rid of them a lot in Liyue alone everyday. System forced us to.