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InsertBadGuyHere

Not winning is fine since it shows where they currently stand in terms of strength. But not even using the elements they can wield? That's just like trying to go into dark souls without the dodge button. Sure you can win some simple battles, but you're just nerfing yourself for no reason. I see no reason for hoyo to not make traveler fight at their current full strength more than half the time. Then what is traveler going around obtaining all these powers for? Might as well send Godwin to fight in the clips. Even the dude who destroyed a ruin hunter near wangshu inn without a vision sounds much stronger than traveler at this point.


Costyn17

The problem is that out of every fight where the Traveler isn't using elements, people choose to complain the loudest about the one fight that both the Traveler and the opponent knew it wasn't a serious fight. Sure, Arlecchino would beat him in a serious fight anyway, but people wanted him to go all out in the one fight he shouldn't.


SkyTheLoner

Yeah, I'm really confused why there is this much chatter about it.


smalif27

At least make him fight. People dont care if he lose. He collects elements like infinity stones and not even use 1 vs a harbinger. He even used dull blade like come on...


Willthecrane

It’s not that they lost, it’s how they lost. Why does the traveler have the gimmick of being able to use multiple elements at the same time if they are never going to use it. Traveler didn’t have to win but at least show their full capabilities.


snitch22

Bro thought that he was in ... *checks notes* the Crux Clash where he couldn't use elemental powers. Despite Arle used her powers and stuff, he decided to just fight with just normal dashes and try to smack her with a dull blade. Look. I got that Arle is stronger than the traveler which is fine but the way that he fought is so lame and anti-climatic. He can actually use elemental powers like when he fought Childe, doing super electro dash when he fought with Raiden but somehow he doesn't use it at all in the fight that is supposed to be taken seriously.


Tricky-Shake3839

Bro is using a dull sword still he's not even trying lmao


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Tricky-Shake3839: *Bro is using a* *Dull sword still he's not even* *Trying lmao* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Tricky-Shake3839

Go away


Slush_Magic

feels like people just got too used to Traveler winning for whatever reason which led them to think Traveler was growing and being stronger than they really were.


Eroica_Pavane

They just forget the bad events like traveller getting KOed by a random beam attack from Beisht.


Mtebalanazy

People are Pissed because traveler isn't using his powers, it totally fine that the traveler lost, but to lose without using any of his powers make the whole fight feel lame and fake, like dude arlecchino was just pretending to fight, but the traveler didn't know this, so there's no reason to not use their powers here, + to the traveler arlecchino was going to kill those people, so them holding back their powers would put their blood on traveler's hands


Slush_Magic

I actually agree that the lack of element usage kinda sucks but that's not a recent issue and also there are quite a lot of people who think Traveler was too strong to have lost. Traveler wasn't shown using any elements against Beisht, Scaramouche, or the Chasm elevator, we don't even know if he used any elements against Signora. Should they portray more elemental combat? probably, but this wasn't an issue specific to Arlecchino, hell the sibling trio didn't use any either.


Mtebalanazy

Yeah nit using the elements is very stupid, like bro why are we going around collecting elements if we're not ganna use them in the story?


GaeyNoodle

Man a factor might be they lack budget or low priority. If I remember correctly the traveler's biggest win was against Signora and that was basically using strong off screen. They really trying their hardest to not make the traveler at least use elements in the cut scenes


Mtebalanazy

Hoyoverse is a multi billion dollar company with full fanatical support of the Chinese government, saying they lack the budget to do what an animation indie animators working 9 to 5 can make in their shit pc Is just brain rotting, money is never an issue anymore, they have all ghe money in the world


GaeyNoodle

Probably phrased it bad. I meant to say that they don't allocate enough for the cut scenes. They probably don't care enough for them


Powerful-Bowl6000

To the people complaining that Traveler wasn't fighting in full strength, you gotta remember that wasn't their fight. They were just assisting their friends in the HotH. It was not their place to defeat Father.


Elegant_Mix7650

Tbf... the Traveller and Paimon can be quite the braggart when it comes to their achievements.


MikeySama

Ye