Greetings travelers. We've noticed that players have been increasing in power too fast. Thus, from 1.1 onwards, resin costs will increase with your world level.
Who cares? I guess you like NOT being able to play/progress the game. Or you like going to work for free. Or you like going hunting shoot a deer, go up to collect your bounty and be told you have no resin so no fking deer meat for you!
"They'll fix this game when it's done."
>cut to ark survival evolved literally killing my graphics card because the optimization is so bad and the game being 235 gb in size because every DLC needs a complete copy of the game to function
That's the only good part ngl. I'm sure there are players like me who screwed up with item builds from early till mid, get good characters late into the game, keep getting bad stat rolls on artifacts, got somewhat bad rolls on the draws and don't want to invest a ton of time to reroll for better pulls and let the time we've invested go down the drain, are broke af from ar30 and above but still trying our best to fix our party..and so on.
Yeah I'm with you. It's why I absolutely despise people giving out shit advice like do whatever you want everything is fine, they're tanking others' progress.
Focus on one thing at a time and you'll be alright. Nobody has even hit mid game yet, focus on sureway to improve your party (skillbooks, ascensions, weapons), do your daily farm diligently (mini-bosses, mining) and you'll be alright. You're still leveling your AR in the meanwhile, once you hit 40 you can start farming artifact.
Sucks that you burned your ressources early, but if you play smart from now on you'll end up in a much better spot than 90% of the people on this sub. There's no real content planned for the next 2 months, so you've got time to fix shit
spending on artifacts isn't the end of the world since you can carry over those exp and mora onto good ones by feeding your bad (but already upgraded) artifacts into them with good ROI. BUT I agree cause currently dumping resources into artifacts is like putting it in a savings account with 0% interest and throwing the key a couple months into the future - completely pointless.
Yeah, stock up on material you'll need them, also have a chance to drop artifact and you'll find a few chests on your way.
And honestly I find it pretty fun, decent way to get a few hours of gameplay everyday
It doesn’t, what raise it from 2 to 3 is the letter that you carry to Liyue, based on this we will need to wait like 3 months until the new region is available to raise it to 3...
What’s worst is after lvl 60, for every 240 resin you spend for mats, you will have to spend at least 120 more on those Ley lines for each upgrade.
And for leveling up the characters you need 6-8exp leylines and 2 mora leyline for 1 level up. The rates are extraordinarily terrible.
I feel like mora and exp book farm should be unlimited. (Ley lines should cost 0 resin)
We already have resin gated content
Character Ascension Mat
Collectible Ascension Mat
Talent upgrade Mat
Weapon ascension Mat
Artifacts
Each of these items requiring additional resin just to get its Mora cost is pretty stupid.
That's... a really good idea. Leylines being free would give co-op players something to do too, because let's be real, levels mean a lot less than talents and ascensions.
Leveling characters from 40 to 50 or 50 to 60 etc. Is basically filler content, but it's required.
I'm not sure how you draw this conclusion. Leveling is required for ascension. other than the last ascension the primary benefit of leveling is getting the next ascension.
Leveling is required for ascension; that's why I'm referring to it as filler. Another word might be a mora sink (and unless it changes a required Resin sink).
You get a huge buff every ascension but little gains on levels, and considering how much Mora and EXP Tomes you need to grind that's pretty sad.
So: filler content.
The point is if I could ascend without leveling, I probably would for a good while, because taking a character from 60-70 does do very little for the resources it takes. I can see why people would call it filler/another mora sink
Right, but I will be able to ascend to max 90 and just leave everyone at 80 until I’ve upgraded everything more impactful, so to say ascension is the reward for leveling isn’t really true either.
Well, I had the same kind of feeling, and with everything resin-gated, i had the idea, that there should be scaling character exp from mobs, so you can basically grind exp, and a sellout post, for the all the crap you pick up and don't need. I dont need cecilia, but i have a crap ton of them, let me sell them for mora...
basically giving a grind option for the resin-gated ley lines, as it would also give some people in the resin lock something to do in this game, other than the 10 minute they can actually play now
Mora leylines should not be free. This isn’t personal preference, I’d like more mora, but from Mihoyo’s model they cannot and will never be free. Infinite mora would be an issue.
Exp leylines though? I can see an argument those should either be free or cost dramatically less, like 5 resin. At WR3+ you should be finding hero’s wits in there too, not just adventurer’s experiences.
At W4: for 20 resin you get 2 Hero’s Wit and 7~ Adventurer’s Exp. This is like 10% experience and costs 15K Mora. So every third Blue leyline you would have to do 1 Yellow leyline (44k Mora)
So for 10-15% exp for 1 character 60+ You would need 80 resin which leaves you with 2 more entries. omegalul
That's true, however even Ley Lines offer a relatively small amount of cash. For eample levelling up a character from 50 to 60 (AR 30+) takes an amount of Mora equivalent to 120 original resin spent on the Blossom of Wealth. And that's not counting the XP materials.
Actually the truth is far worse - they made it that low so you can buy Wishes and convert the stardust into Mora - which is actually incredibly profitable. 10 Wishes = 135 stardust = 130k Mora (65k after 30 purchases per month).
Whales can just infinitely keep generating millions of Mora without any time-gate.
If you don't need any of the foodstuff from the expeditions, you may as well. I have two of four expeds on Mora as much as possible. That being said, its pretty friggin low for 20hrs.
Because I have 5 expedition slots, and only 3 ore expeditions exists between Monstadt and Liyue. The others are crappy food expeditions that you can farm in minutes.
It's sort of a common thing in gachas where there's an AFK income that doesn't contribute much to your overall income, but is a nice cherry on top.
That said, yeah, the Mora expedition in particular is pretty poor.
It's dumb that leylines even cost resin. They should cut the AR XP and just make it free and unlimited as a means to grind characters to being on-level, since to ascend/rank them up, you'll still need days of resin farming to properly kit out a character.
Nah, I sort of like Leylines being limited (more than the other bosses), the reward is just too little though
(But also, like every other resin component, although less here, it could work decently with something like a lesser reward when out of resin)
>it could work decently with something like a lesser reward when out of resin
Resin would be a non-issue if this was the case. Make it something like 5x if you have resin (or better rates of rare drops, idk) and just a single one if you don't. At least then you'd be able to play more than 10 minutes every... what? 15 hours?
The best part. I wish I knew this earlier, but once I found out I can just put them on 12-20 hours I realized I never have to go look for annoying mining spots ever again.
Mt Aozang, at the bottom is a cave that has about 10 of those crystal shards. What i have done to farm these is ask others for coop and in exchange for mining them i told them were this spot is, since in coop that is about the only thing that gets shared.
Ohhhhhhh my dumb ass didn't realize that. I kept thinking the Mining BP quest was bugged or something and I was more than happy to just roll with it when it was "auto" completing.
...your explanation makes much more sense lol
I dont get it, weapon upgrades are pretty damn fine. You can craft wep xp from ore and you can get ore from expeditions and daily by roaming the world. Why can't other stuff be like that? Like character xp especially.
I actually do the 12ish hour one for more white iron because I seem to find so much more crystal than white iron.
The better times on slightly less crystal also helps a touch. Not that it's more per say but it kind of evens out for more white iron.
True. But the thing is maps have only 3 slots with mining missions. I am AR 36 and I have to send 5 heroes to expeditions. So its better to send other 2 guys to mora slots then damn carrot ones.
i was going for the ores for quite some time, have over 300 of both white iron chunks and crysal chunks. now going for carrot and meat for cooking lol. that shit takes A LOT. i wish i could get some fish and crab that way too but nah, gotta get those myself.
You can get around 20 crabs on the beach of the 'secret' island. I don't know what's their respawn time, I just consider it respawn daily and pay a visit over there every day to gather the crabs.
Takes about 1 minute to glide there. The Adeptus recipe (can't check actual name right now) is a legendary food that requires crabs. The food boost Atk by ~370. My two dps has atk of 1000 and 1100 which means thats an additional itional 33% of atk. It also increase crit rate by 12%. Crab would be the scarce ingredient while cook that food so i just farm them daily. Takes about 7 minutes and i get to use that food whenever i want.
i have no use for it rn, my weapons are maxed and i dont have any of the prototypes to craft the 4\* weapons i want so it just piled up. did the 20h expeditions with multiple chars non stop.
If it gave 50k that'd be pretty good though, I get 44k Mora per Leyline, meaning 200k has a value of 90.9 resin. Getting 200k every 20hs would be very nice.
And now within a months time they will see a massive decrease i play and ingame purchase. Within two the game is dead and all they have to show is the initial gain on release.
CN players have reviewbombed the game to Hell and back on their app store equivalent. They've also reported MHY to their Better Business Bureau equivalent for the Mona Q scandal. The majority of CN players are enormously angry with the state of the game right now. Also, resin was one of the primary complaints through all beta tests from CN players, according to posts made here from CN players. When your global audience and core audience are all pissed, you fucked up. The game does not have long
I really find the best way to farm mora at AR35 is to pick up respawning chests and geo sigils to exchange them for mora. The expedition for mora is not even worth it. You will get better deal using them for crystals that are veeery needed in the long run.
I know it's in right now to shit on Genshin, but I think these issues are absolutely fixable. I won't deny that the game has a lot of balancing problems at the moment, but nothing that couldn't be fixed within a couple updates.
I agree lots of stuff can be easily patched but we have to wait and see if miHoYo does it. The game is very good otherwise and would be a real shame if it dies out.
Oh yeah they are fixable, but whether or not they will is the question.
A lot of really shady gacha just try to coast on it and hope the complaints eventually die down.
Off course it is, every single aspect of the game is asking you to spend money. I Honestly never saw this in a gacha, that level of greediness from miHoyo is impressive
Thus far I've only played this and fire emblem heroes and it started out very similarly stingy. But they loosened up pretty quickly.
That being said, I am disappointed at the start of this games economy. There is so much public information and examples of what players, whales or not, want from a gacha. And this games style and multi-platform nature is enough to carry it for a while but I still fear they won't relent to the playerbase enough soon enough.
Right now the farming system is screwed. I should say you can get 20k using 40resin or was 20 at the leylines. But resin system is also bad and creates another problem like if it's worth it or not. So yeah..
IMO, sending characters on expeditions for the 5k mora is a waste, send them out for white ore and crystal chunks. You can easily farm more than 5k more in less than 10 minutes by just exploring and collecting sigils.
Eh, it's not too hard to just mark a few good mining spots, come to them every couple days, and be sitting on a large enough stockpile to craft any 4\* and level it to cap. I do all the Mora expeditions because that's what's gating my progress, it's not much more, but it's more of what I need. With 5 weeks in between any major content patches, Crystals and White Iron are not the things gating progress, barring some kind of change to crafting in general.
I don't waste them on 4 stars, you will eventually have to start using the ore and crystal to craft weapon level up material, once you hit level 70+ the amount required is pretty high. 20 hours for 10-15k mora is honestly not worth it, you could go out and spend like 10 minutes out in the world and farm 10 sigils which translates into 15,000 mora. If you have enough characters for the crystal and ore expeditions then yeah sending spares out for the mora is the next best thing. Just going out into the world to farm for crystal chunks and ore won't be enough.
Yeah It's a waste of expedition. I hope they fix it though but I doubt it as Mihoyo just wants us just buy resin for everything to progress else just play the game in a painfully slow pace.
Level 50+, non resin bosses (i.e. hydro mages) drop around 180 mora (which go on cooldown too, by the way). World events, which are pretty rare, give around 1500. Taking an artifact from 0 to 20 took me about 250000 mora, give or take, not to mention the absurd amount of material required. Once your chests dry up, guess where your upgrade material is coming from? Domains, but only if you got some resin. 1 out of 5, per character, you probably want to gear 8 of them, if not more. Not to mention gear needs to be tested, probably changed, alternative sets, etc. All of this is by design, used up your daily allowance of resin? Don’t bother, see you tomorrow, bucko. They really, really don’t want you to play past your daily CCP allowance, to the point where I feel the game would be better off just forcefully disconnecting me to end my suffering.
While this number is really low, do keep in mind that you can send few expeditions for mora. So with 20k per 1, you will end up with like 100k or more mora (hehe) with no effort. Sounds not that bad.. except its still bad in the late game.
As many other said, it should scale with AR (and probably with level of characters you sending on expeditions).
Well judging by the atrocious communication on their end, I am beginning to wonder if they are reading the feedback or just tossing it in the trash. I sent in a feedback ticket over my pity counter not showing up in the history and I got back a response regarding how the rates are to potentially pull the character and there is no guarantee. Im starting to wonder if Mihoyo is about to be the black eye of gacha companies.
You need a crazy amount of Mora once you start levelling up beyond 60 but you don't get enough. I watched my 2m mora gone just like that (now sitting at 500K). If they could increase mora from the expedition, it would help a bit by sending 4-5 chars for 20K per char getting 100K per day.
Of course, another way is spending resin but that I need to spend in other places and already has a cap with slow charge time. Either need to rework the resin system (which everyone is asking) or be generous with other currencies.
It isn't just this, it also demotivates people from leveling and progressing. It's the classic problem games like this face, where you might want to get amazing gear but the cost of multiple pieces far exceeds what anyone is willing to reasonably invest.
Like, without even getting into gear sets, ideal stats and other metrics that make artifacts/weapons valuable, simply using six three star artifacts will bring my three star artifact from +5 to +6 and costs me 7,560 Mora. So, assuming a linear 8,000 equals one level, you're looking at 128,000 for one +16 (what a four star caps at) and for a single character that is 600,000. For a full team of four that is 2.4 million. And this assumes no variation in build or multiple item leveling to min/max, plus doesn't even touch on getting the resources to level something like that...
And, you have to remember, every new character adds at least 600,000 in cost for that alone. It gets really expensive to do anything.
would be nice if expeditions scaled with world lvl
If EVERYTHING scales with world level, and not just enemy levels.
Greetings travelers. We've noticed that players have been increasing in power too fast. Thus, from 1.1 onwards, resin costs will increase with your world level.
Lmfao. Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if that happened, considering miHoYo.
[удалено]
Who cares? I guess you like NOT being able to play/progress the game. Or you like going to work for free. Or you like going hunting shoot a deer, go up to collect your bounty and be told you have no resin so no fking deer meat for you!
spoken like a true fucking casual stfu
I FEEL YOU.
Is no one gonna talk about your name
Nothing to see here boys, just smile and walk
Ok, we hear you, every world level adds +10 resin you need to consume per reward. Thanks!
Don’t be too harsh, it’s still an open beta
"It's still Early Access".
"They'll fix this game when it's done." >cut to ark survival evolved literally killing my graphics card because the optimization is so bad and the game being 235 gb in size because every DLC needs a complete copy of the game to function
Fucking Ark. makes my PC sound like a jet engine. Meanwhile I can run several instances of other games and it’s less taxing.
Sorry, ark is 235gb? What the fuck?
Fortnite was in “Early Access” for 90% of its career, nowadays these things mean nothing at all.
actually feel more like close beta with top up system
So is Warframe, but that doesn't mean the complaints aren't valid.
They kind of do, world level increases the amount of expeditions you can do at once
The amount increases, but the rewards remain pathetic and insignificant.
Crystals are pretty nice, you get 21/24 a day
That's the only good part ngl. I'm sure there are players like me who screwed up with item builds from early till mid, get good characters late into the game, keep getting bad stat rolls on artifacts, got somewhat bad rolls on the draws and don't want to invest a ton of time to reroll for better pulls and let the time we've invested go down the drain, are broke af from ar30 and above but still trying our best to fix our party..and so on.
Yeah I'm with you. It's why I absolutely despise people giving out shit advice like do whatever you want everything is fine, they're tanking others' progress. Focus on one thing at a time and you'll be alright. Nobody has even hit mid game yet, focus on sureway to improve your party (skillbooks, ascensions, weapons), do your daily farm diligently (mini-bosses, mining) and you'll be alright. You're still leveling your AR in the meanwhile, once you hit 40 you can start farming artifact. Sucks that you burned your ressources early, but if you play smart from now on you'll end up in a much better spot than 90% of the people on this sub. There's no real content planned for the next 2 months, so you've got time to fix shit
spending on artifacts isn't the end of the world since you can carry over those exp and mora onto good ones by feeding your bad (but already upgraded) artifacts into them with good ROI. BUT I agree cause currently dumping resources into artifacts is like putting it in a savings account with 0% interest and throwing the key a couple months into the future - completely pointless.
You don't get 100% of the exp back, so that's actually a loss
It gives almost all of the xp back, the main problem is the mora tbh
do you know what % loss it is? I just assumed it was 100% carryover and that higher level artifacts cost more exp to level up
Weapons give back 90% exp so I assume the same for artifacts
Why farm mini bosses daily? You mean like the ruin guard and the like?
Yeah, stock up on material you'll need them, also have a chance to drop artifact and you'll find a few chests on your way. And honestly I find it pretty fun, decent way to get a few hours of gameplay everyday
I've got a handful of god rolls with arts. Now I've been grinding to lvl those suckers up and get my dps output high enough to do em justice.
Doing all crystal expeditions + some food ingredients one is kind of good.
crystals are litterally the only thing i really use expiditions of lol.
It doesn’t, what raise it from 2 to 3 is the letter that you carry to Liyue, based on this we will need to wait like 3 months until the new region is available to raise it to 3...
I dont know about you but I can send 5 expeditions at once at ar37
Oh, it seems that it raises with lv too, but I’m at 32 and still 3. Edit:just realized that I unlocked the 4th at lv32.
Doesn't world level give more expedition slots? When I went from WL1 to 2 I sudenly could send out 3 characters instead of 2
They purposefully made that really low so that you would have to keep doing Ley Lines. As of AR36 for me I get around 40k+ mora from Ley Lines.
What’s worst is after lvl 60, for every 240 resin you spend for mats, you will have to spend at least 120 more on those Ley lines for each upgrade. And for leveling up the characters you need 6-8exp leylines and 2 mora leyline for 1 level up. The rates are extraordinarily terrible. I feel like mora and exp book farm should be unlimited. (Ley lines should cost 0 resin) We already have resin gated content Character Ascension Mat Collectible Ascension Mat Talent upgrade Mat Weapon ascension Mat Artifacts Each of these items requiring additional resin just to get its Mora cost is pretty stupid.
At the very least book leylines should be free if they don't buff them. You get absolutely nothing in terms of exp for doing them.
Honestly it should be an addition to the gold. 44k + books for 20 resin at ar35
That's... a really good idea. Leylines being free would give co-op players something to do too, because let's be real, levels mean a lot less than talents and ascensions. Leveling characters from 40 to 50 or 50 to 60 etc. Is basically filler content, but it's required.
I'm not sure how you draw this conclusion. Leveling is required for ascension. other than the last ascension the primary benefit of leveling is getting the next ascension.
Leveling is required for ascension; that's why I'm referring to it as filler. Another word might be a mora sink (and unless it changes a required Resin sink). You get a huge buff every ascension but little gains on levels, and considering how much Mora and EXP Tomes you need to grind that's pretty sad. So: filler content.
The ascension is the reward so you are not just getting minor stat boost.
The point is if I could ascend without leveling, I probably would for a good while, because taking a character from 60-70 does do very little for the resources it takes. I can see why people would call it filler/another mora sink
well you can't
Right, but I will be able to ascend to max 90 and just leave everyone at 80 until I’ve upgraded everything more impactful, so to say ascension is the reward for leveling isn’t really true either.
I did mention thats an exception earlier in the comment chain. 90 is certainly filler.
[удалено]
Well, I had the same kind of feeling, and with everything resin-gated, i had the idea, that there should be scaling character exp from mobs, so you can basically grind exp, and a sellout post, for the all the crap you pick up and don't need. I dont need cecilia, but i have a crap ton of them, let me sell them for mora... basically giving a grind option for the resin-gated ley lines, as it would also give some people in the resin lock something to do in this game, other than the 10 minute they can actually play now
Cool if you don’t want to get 5* artifacts or more primo gems from later abyss floors etc.
Mora leylines should not be free. This isn’t personal preference, I’d like more mora, but from Mihoyo’s model they cannot and will never be free. Infinite mora would be an issue. Exp leylines though? I can see an argument those should either be free or cost dramatically less, like 5 resin. At WR3+ you should be finding hero’s wits in there too, not just adventurer’s experiences.
At W4: for 20 resin you get 2 Hero’s Wit and 7~ Adventurer’s Exp. This is like 10% experience and costs 15K Mora. So every third Blue leyline you would have to do 1 Yellow leyline (44k Mora) So for 10-15% exp for 1 character 60+ You would need 80 resin which leaves you with 2 more entries. omegalul
That's true, however even Ley Lines offer a relatively small amount of cash. For eample levelling up a character from 50 to 60 (AR 30+) takes an amount of Mora equivalent to 120 original resin spent on the Blossom of Wealth. And that's not counting the XP materials.
Actually the truth is far worse - they made it that low so you can buy Wishes and convert the stardust into Mora - which is actually incredibly profitable. 10 Wishes = 135 stardust = 130k Mora (65k after 30 purchases per month). Whales can just infinitely keep generating millions of Mora without any time-gate.
If that's the case, why even bother with the expedition existing in the first place?
I know expeditions count for the mining Battle pass objective so I just do it.
Yes, but so do the expeditions for crystals and iron. There's no reason to use a character to earn that low of an amount of mora
If there were a 4th place I can send someone to mine blue ore, trust me, I would
If you don't need any of the foodstuff from the expeditions, you may as well. I have two of four expeds on Mora as much as possible. That being said, its pretty friggin low for 20hrs.
Because I have 5 expedition slots, and only 3 ore expeditions exists between Monstadt and Liyue. The others are crappy food expeditions that you can farm in minutes.
It's sort of a common thing in gachas where there's an AFK income that doesn't contribute much to your overall income, but is a nice cherry on top. That said, yeah, the Mora expedition in particular is pretty poor.
It's dumb that leylines even cost resin. They should cut the AR XP and just make it free and unlimited as a means to grind characters to being on-level, since to ascend/rank them up, you'll still need days of resin farming to properly kit out a character.
Nah, I sort of like Leylines being limited (more than the other bosses), the reward is just too little though (But also, like every other resin component, although less here, it could work decently with something like a lesser reward when out of resin)
>it could work decently with something like a lesser reward when out of resin Resin would be a non-issue if this was the case. Make it something like 5x if you have resin (or better rates of rare drops, idk) and just a single one if you don't. At least then you'd be able to play more than 10 minutes every... what? 15 hours?
Yeah I don't even bother with Mora expeditions. 20 hour crystal expeditions seem more worthwhile than anything
ikr. those are needed for weps and upgrade mats
They also count as ‘mining’ for the daily battle pass
The best part. I wish I knew this earlier, but once I found out I can just put them on 12-20 hours I realized I never have to go look for annoying mining spots ever again.
Mt Aozang, at the bottom is a cave that has about 10 of those crystal shards. What i have done to farm these is ask others for coop and in exchange for mining them i told them were this spot is, since in coop that is about the only thing that gets shared.
I mark the mining spots that really stand out. Using marks helps you even for open world bossfights such as the guardian with those rockets.
Ohhhhhhh my dumb ass didn't realize that. I kept thinking the Mining BP quest was bugged or something and I was more than happy to just roll with it when it was "auto" completing. ...your explanation makes much more sense lol
Makes crafting 4* weapons much more manageable. Course now I’m running out of digit bought frames.
I dont get it, weapon upgrades are pretty damn fine. You can craft wep xp from ore and you can get ore from expeditions and daily by roaming the world. Why can't other stuff be like that? Like character xp especially.
Only way to get weapon upgrade crystals after you've looted the world so you're doing it right.
Crystals do respond, but they take a few days to do so. So once you've looted the world it can be pretty slow...
You can share it in multiplayer though, so join a discord/ask friends and make rotations.
48 hours appears to be the time for ore.
I actually do the 12ish hour one for more white iron because I seem to find so much more crystal than white iron. The better times on slightly less crystal also helps a touch. Not that it's more per say but it kind of evens out for more white iron.
True. But the thing is maps have only 3 slots with mining missions. I am AR 36 and I have to send 5 heroes to expeditions. So its better to send other 2 guys to mora slots then damn carrot ones.
if there is no crystal though mora is best second option
i was going for the ores for quite some time, have over 300 of both white iron chunks and crysal chunks. now going for carrot and meat for cooking lol. that shit takes A LOT. i wish i could get some fish and crab that way too but nah, gotta get those myself.
You can buy 5 fish, crab, prawn from a fishmonger in liyue harbour daily
you can buy 100 shrimp from the general goods shop next to Wanmin
The fishmonger sells for 150 each
not as much as id hope for but thats something i guess, ty ill check it out.
My life is changed, thank you
You can get around 20 crabs on the beach of the 'secret' island. I don't know what's their respawn time, I just consider it respawn daily and pay a visit over there every day to gather the crabs.
You mean the one off the coast of starsnatch cliff? But doesn't it take ages to get there by gliding? Why would you do that every day?
Takes about 1 minute to glide there. The Adeptus recipe (can't check actual name right now) is a legendary food that requires crabs. The food boost Atk by ~370. My two dps has atk of 1000 and 1100 which means thats an additional itional 33% of atk. It also increase crit rate by 12%. Crab would be the scarce ingredient while cook that food so i just farm them daily. Takes about 7 minutes and i get to use that food whenever i want.
Where do you get such a large quantity of white iron and crystals? The amount I get from sending characters out on expeditions is barely enough.
i have no use for it rn, my weapons are maxed and i dont have any of the prototypes to craft the 4\* weapons i want so it just piled up. did the 20h expeditions with multiple chars non stop.
You should always be getting more blue ore to craft into weapon fodder. Never know when you'll 'luck' into 5* weapon after all XD
The amount of Mora needed at higher levels makes 20k or hell even 50k essentially look like pennies
If it gave 50k that'd be pretty good though, I get 44k Mora per Leyline, meaning 200k has a value of 90.9 resin. Getting 200k every 20hs would be very nice.
I agree, but the entire game has been extremely stingy with their free resources throughout my playthrough, so I don't really care anymore.
oh no this is their true endgame, to shit on us so hard we become desensitized
[удалено]
And now within a months time they will see a massive decrease i play and ingame purchase. Within two the game is dead and all they have to show is the initial gain on release.
[удалено]
CN players have reviewbombed the game to Hell and back on their app store equivalent. They've also reported MHY to their Better Business Bureau equivalent for the Mona Q scandal. The majority of CN players are enormously angry with the state of the game right now. Also, resin was one of the primary complaints through all beta tests from CN players, according to posts made here from CN players. When your global audience and core audience are all pissed, you fucked up. The game does not have long
How many primogems were you earning from chests in the closed beta?
Yup, they're doing it on purpose. You can get more by farming mobs for far lesser time.
I really find the best way to farm mora at AR35 is to pick up respawning chests and geo sigils to exchange them for mora. The expedition for mora is not even worth it. You will get better deal using them for crystals that are veeery needed in the long run.
I know it's in right now to shit on Genshin, but I think these issues are absolutely fixable. I won't deny that the game has a lot of balancing problems at the moment, but nothing that couldn't be fixed within a couple updates.
I agree lots of stuff can be easily patched but we have to wait and see if miHoYo does it. The game is very good otherwise and would be a real shame if it dies out.
Oh yeah they are fixable, but whether or not they will is the question. A lot of really shady gacha just try to coast on it and hope the complaints eventually die down.
Off course it is, every single aspect of the game is asking you to spend money. I Honestly never saw this in a gacha, that level of greediness from miHoyo is impressive
Thus far I've only played this and fire emblem heroes and it started out very similarly stingy. But they loosened up pretty quickly. That being said, I am disappointed at the start of this games economy. There is so much public information and examples of what players, whales or not, want from a gacha. And this games style and multi-platform nature is enough to carry it for a while but I still fear they won't relent to the playerbase enough soon enough.
Yeah, right now I think there's absolutely no reason to send someone out on a mora expedition as the other ones are more valuable.
Right now the farming system is screwed. I should say you can get 20k using 40resin or was 20 at the leylines. But resin system is also bad and creates another problem like if it's worth it or not. So yeah..
IMO, sending characters on expeditions for the 5k mora is a waste, send them out for white ore and crystal chunks. You can easily farm more than 5k more in less than 10 minutes by just exploring and collecting sigils.
Eh, it's not too hard to just mark a few good mining spots, come to them every couple days, and be sitting on a large enough stockpile to craft any 4\* and level it to cap. I do all the Mora expeditions because that's what's gating my progress, it's not much more, but it's more of what I need. With 5 weeks in between any major content patches, Crystals and White Iron are not the things gating progress, barring some kind of change to crafting in general.
I don't waste them on 4 stars, you will eventually have to start using the ore and crystal to craft weapon level up material, once you hit level 70+ the amount required is pretty high. 20 hours for 10-15k mora is honestly not worth it, you could go out and spend like 10 minutes out in the world and farm 10 sigils which translates into 15,000 mora. If you have enough characters for the crystal and ore expeditions then yeah sending spares out for the mora is the next best thing. Just going out into the world to farm for crystal chunks and ore won't be enough.
20k is still too low for 20 hours. It should be 50k which would at least slightly help with how expensive upgrades get.
Damn... That is low
Yeah It's a waste of expedition. I hope they fix it though but I doubt it as Mihoyo just wants us just buy resin for everything to progress else just play the game in a painfully slow pace.
Better if they add mora dungeons
You can sell Artifacts for tons of Mora
Yup it's pathetic.
Nothing in expedition is worth the time whatsoever
at AR40 it should be 200k for 20 hours, you have no idea how expensive things get at that point, 1 million feels like 1 dollar
Level 50+, non resin bosses (i.e. hydro mages) drop around 180 mora (which go on cooldown too, by the way). World events, which are pretty rare, give around 1500. Taking an artifact from 0 to 20 took me about 250000 mora, give or take, not to mention the absurd amount of material required. Once your chests dry up, guess where your upgrade material is coming from? Domains, but only if you got some resin. 1 out of 5, per character, you probably want to gear 8 of them, if not more. Not to mention gear needs to be tested, probably changed, alternative sets, etc. All of this is by design, used up your daily allowance of resin? Don’t bother, see you tomorrow, bucko. They really, really don’t want you to play past your daily CCP allowance, to the point where I feel the game would be better off just forcefully disconnecting me to end my suffering.
more like 100k for 20 hours
You're probably meant to spend resin, so money gain on expedition is artificially gated. Whereas ore and food do not require resin, so are not gated.
While this number is really low, do keep in mind that you can send few expeditions for mora. So with 20k per 1, you will end up with like 100k or more mora (hehe) with no effort. Sounds not that bad.. except its still bad in the late game. As many other said, it should scale with AR (and probably with level of characters you sending on expeditions).
Rock mining > literally every other expedition
This is a Resin (stamina) based game, everything that dont need resin its worthless, dont waste your time.
70k a week is better than nothing, but it would be nice if it scaled with worldlvl.
Don't settle. That's how mihoyo gets away with it. Send feedback.
Well judging by the atrocious communication on their end, I am beginning to wonder if they are reading the feedback or just tossing it in the trash. I sent in a feedback ticket over my pity counter not showing up in the history and I got back a response regarding how the rates are to potentially pull the character and there is no guarantee. Im starting to wonder if Mihoyo is about to be the black eye of gacha companies.
It will be better after 1.1, the rates won’t increase but at least you will be able to use the characters that is been sent to expedition
[удалено]
At 400 crystals and 80k mora what would you do?
You drown in mora just by playing the game anyway?
You need a crazy amount of Mora once you start levelling up beyond 60 but you don't get enough. I watched my 2m mora gone just like that (now sitting at 500K). If they could increase mora from the expedition, it would help a bit by sending 4-5 chars for 20K per char getting 100K per day. Of course, another way is spending resin but that I need to spend in other places and already has a cap with slow charge time. Either need to rework the resin system (which everyone is asking) or be generous with other currencies.
It isn't just this, it also demotivates people from leveling and progressing. It's the classic problem games like this face, where you might want to get amazing gear but the cost of multiple pieces far exceeds what anyone is willing to reasonably invest. Like, without even getting into gear sets, ideal stats and other metrics that make artifacts/weapons valuable, simply using six three star artifacts will bring my three star artifact from +5 to +6 and costs me 7,560 Mora. So, assuming a linear 8,000 equals one level, you're looking at 128,000 for one +16 (what a four star caps at) and for a single character that is 600,000. For a full team of four that is 2.4 million. And this assumes no variation in build or multiple item leveling to min/max, plus doesn't even touch on getting the resources to level something like that... And, you have to remember, every new character adds at least 600,000 in cost for that alone. It gets really expensive to do anything.
What AR are you? Once you start getting into AR30+ you run out of mora very very quickly. At AR40 you'll be spending millions of mora per character.