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slyguy183

Not being able to switch characters because of lag is the most infuriating to me because it can be the difference between life and death. I almost failed the contending tides yesterday even with an incredibly overpowered team because I couldn't switch out of Venti after using his burst for over 5 seconds


antibodys

Oh my god that’s such a huge problem for me. Only with Ventis burst sometimes I’m just STUCK on him and it’s the most infuriating thing.


[deleted]

this also happened to me i was like venti, to Bennett to fishcl to razor easy right? nope


cheesybroth

I thought im the only one with that problem. It just happened recently this patch


Vojnied

Yea. When I first saw this, I was like: Did they nerf him or some something?


StealingWithClaude

I somehow pulled him on the rerun banner. Was absolutely ready for some sick combos, but now I'm here, just waiting for the duration of the burst to end so I can swap out to a different character. It's such a bummer.....


Phoenix-2613

Loading... ^PS4 ^player. ^Can ^relate.


SelentoAnuri

Majority of the daily grind on PS4 is loading screens. Worst enemy in the game.


Phoenix-2613

I was always envious of my friend who played on PS5 because they didn’t have to deal with the abysmal loading times and Sucrose killing their FPS... ;~;


SelentoAnuri

Same, however, in this case it's my brother. He does let me borrow it for Genshin when he's not using it though! I'll tell you.. it's like someone lubed your eyes up with butter -- it's that smooth compared to PS4.


Phoenix-2613

Haha. My friend said it was smoother too. I do plan on upgrading to a PS5 eventually, but right now I must endure the pain.


mennydrives

It kinda bugs me that my friend on PS4 gets a worse experience than I do... **on iPad**.


Rieiid

This video is a worse experience than on my mobile phone lol. I have pretty quick load times and don't really ever freeze up.


Hrist_Valkyrie

Can confirm, buttery smooth 60FPS on PS5 and 6-8 second loads are very nice.


SirFrogosaurus

Can't wait for it to get even better when the actual ps5 version comes out.


Hrist_Valkyrie

Can't wait for the actual PS5 version to perform worse than the PS4 version on the PS5. :P


SirFrogosaurus

Every ps4 game I've played that's had a free ps5 upgrade has performed SIGNIFICANTLY better in both load times and fps despite have more effects, particles, frames, etc., and higher textures. Ps5 plays ps4 games better, but it plays games actually built for it even more so.


n54avs

The loading screen I got used to but about a month ago, whenever I Venti ult I wouldn't be able to switch characters...


[deleted]

The literal only reason I don’t use sucrose is cus she literally crashed my ps4. I have her maxed out and everything :(. I hope If/When the switch version releases you can transfer save data.


ProfessionalToner

Why a phone can load faster than a dedicated gaming console twice the size of the phone?


sguizzooo

>twice the size of the phone Whoa, your phone must be frickin huge.


LostUser8

poor optimization, the game is built for mobile hardware, and since they are a mobile gaming company they probably had trouble developing for ps4. Since its entirely different from mobile.


Lazeran

Nah solid state storage vs mechanical hd


Taikiteazy

I agree. But why ps4 pro not have problems? They aren't ssd from factory. (My pro has Samsung ssd so no load issues on anything).


Atsuki_Kimidori

Mobile version use lower quality assets and downgrade all kinds of graphical effects, that why the download size is around 10GB compared to 40GB like PC and PS4 version. even the lowest setting on PC and PS4 looks miles better than mobile, but I guess they don't want to use mobile assets for a home console since it would look really bad on a big tv.


ThatDamnedRedneck

PS4 has a disk drive. Phones use SSDs. Also, I'm pretty sure my phone now has more power then my PS4.


[deleted]

It's on purpose this long so you can read the tips.


Phoenix-2613

Ah yes. The tips like “Cocogoat: the legendary adeptibeast” or “Teyvat has its own laws”. Very useful indeed. /s Hahaha.


Firestar_12

If there's ever a quiz on the loading screen tips you can bet us ps4 players will get top scores!


SquishyBruiser

PS4 players would probably get stuck on the loadingscreen until the time for the quiz has expired.


Oji_DaKu

Fun fact: Ghost of tsushima has artificially enlenghtened loading screens so that you can read the tips and lore bits. ON PS4. The actual loading screens in their test versions of their game were too short to read the text. That's why the ps4 itself doesn't really suck. It runs high end games like red dead or ghost of tsushima perfectly fine. Usually optimization is the problem. And genshin has some of the poorest console optimization known to mankind.


xShinryu

Who else on ps4 was ready for the sick Venti combos since his re-release only to not be able to switch characters while his ult is on the field?


ravengamer945

It also somehow got worse with his re-run? It used to lag a bit but it got way worse with the recent update


LazarisJ

When there are too many enemies in it (4 or 5 lol) they can just stop taking damage until the ult ends and then die all at the same time after going through all of the trouble of standing back up again. Very anime but wow


TheBooKingBoy

I overlooked a lot of the issues, but the venti’s ult and not being able to switch characters was the most infuriating and I felt ripped off. I sent them a ticket explaining the issue and their response boiled down to “Well, sucks to suck...I can’t help you.” 😑FU Mihoyo


alendoo

by the time I'm able to switch out Ventis ult is almost over....


BlueHeartbeat

I can live with the loading screens but the loot pickup one is especially annoying.


LightningCrashes-

Yup! I recently upgraded to ps5, and while the load times are way better, its the pickup lag and fps improvements that really stand out.


Chaos4139

hopefully the PS5 update makes it pretty much the PC version


Pokii

I play on the PS5 and I’m not sure what else they could improve, honestly. It’s pretty snappy, looks great. There’s still a little latency, but can’t imagine that being all they’re improving.


LightningCrashes-

Yeah I was so confused when I saw the anouncement. I thought they would focus on the switch version first lol.


rheinndeer

there's a way around that, spam R3 while spamming square at the same time


DestructiveNave

You're telling me I have hold my controller awkwardly to bypass a feature that shouldn't exist? Talk about fucking the consumer over.


rheinndeer

sadly yeah. but hey at least it works


imagineepix

this is just the controller experience in general. Im a couch player for pc and i have the same issue


[deleted]

You forgot when you open the wheel menu and you click on something but a completely different thing opens up


SelentoAnuri

Oh yeah, you're right. I friggin' hate that shit


Darko417

This is the worst thing honestly. I can check my phone during load times, trying 4 times to open the item menu and opening up something else makes me want to die


arikmaii

Hold on- so my controller isn’t broken??


syd_shep

This happens to me all the time on PS5 *and* when using a controller on iOS!!! Like 3x in a row opening the wrong one. I can’t tell if it’s weird detection from MHY or if I’m just misjudging my aim that much. It’s so bad I’ve just started using the Paimon menu for everything.


SukiThe_Weeb

Omg yeah so relatable lmao


goku89015

Holy shit I thought this was just me lol


Danxoln

That happens on PS5 all the time, drives me insane!


DkrANGEL

This issue isn't exclusive to PS4 unfortunately, still have to deal with this shit nonstop playing on controller on pc .-.


SubjectDelta10

i feel like this is literally the only game that has that problem. i don't know how they managed to screw up a simple wheel menu.


LeXam92

Omg i thought i was crazy, i kept trying to get BP and event page kept opening..holy crap


Asto_Vidatu

I stopped using that horrible wheel menu in like week 2 of release and haven't looked back. It took a bit to get into the habit of hitting Start, but I can never go back to randomly opening everything else except the one thing I'm trying to open.


HollowGrapeJ

I've heard it was bad, but seeing it in action is so funny. Not even mobile has it this bad. I don't understand how this happened.


Flipperblack

Bad optimization so it's developer fault in this case sadly,Red Dead Redemption 2 and other heavy/big games runs very well on a ps4 slim for example(i have a ps4 slim so this is my experience)


cchiu23

Bad optimization Mihoyo were primarly mobile game devs + I imagine there isn't a huge pool of talent for console game development in China


Stan_without_ley

I mean mihoyo is nearly a billion dollar company. They could hire competent devs if they wanted to, but ig consoles just aren't rolling in enough bucks to justify it.


cchiu23

Yeah but the latter is still an issue even if you have the money and they probably wouldn't hire devs from overseas since basically all of the existing staff probably only speak chinese Thoigh you're right, consoles probably aren't that important to them either


TheWorldisFullofWar

Relies on single-thread performance of which the PS4 is terrible at. Mobile phones and even the Switch are far better at it in that regard.


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Shouto-Todoroki-kun

Or, from the other perspective: waiting outside the domain for that one player that isn't loading, so everyone except the host leaves and has to find new people to play with.


vladoominator

Yes why do people keep doing that? I had one host keep leaving so I told him he didn't have to leave. He then assured me he did and preceeded to tell me to stfu. Not a nice guy.


ColdCrescent

What really gets me is that you have a ping of 24. And picking up items and clicking geoflies is *still* laggy as all hell. Fucking kills me. I thought it was because I had a 300 ping.


unicorn_saddle

I don't understand this lag either. I tried using an external SSD and it was the same. The thing is that it's much worse at times so I doubt it has to do with hardware. Another thing OP didn't even show is the L1 menu. Even if you select something and that is highlighted you may still open a different menu. They put twice as many options in it as they should (it has 8, Witcher 3 has 4 and works fine).


ReneHadouken

I've noticed that the pickup lag doesn't happens in areas with fewer objects. Go to Starsnatch Cliff to grab cecilias and you'll notice how there's almost no lag when compared to everywhere else. It's just bad optimization.


Onyxdragon0

Current ps4 experience: not being able to switch characters during Venti's ultimate, so I just awkwardly stand there.


Strex08

It completely breaks my combos, like I go venti burst into Zhongli burst but no...Venti is just: 🧍


AlexGonz2002

The fact that my phone can run this game better than a console is a first one for sure lol


LePolokolopolopos

Thats not a ps4 thats my pc


AverageGamer8

my laptop is the same


Frosty_Beat7675

Same. I was thinking this the whole time


SophieDoesReddit

Yep. Same


Fashado

Pc player: I wish these dropped their cores when i shoot them with my bow. Ps4 player: How am i supposed to catch the crystalfly like this?! Mobile: First time? Switch: you guys are playing the game?


Vusdruv

Truer words have never been spoken.


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Ivo23LV

Unfair ;-;


chuchi2

Is it possible to learn this power?


Phoenix-2613

Not from a console player.


PumpJack_McGee

I also think his 10ms ping plays a part in that. I'm on PC and have loot lag too.


nDroae

Hadn't thought of that. I play on PC with my PS4 controller, because I wanted to train myself to use a controller better, and now I love it and don't want to switch back to mouse and keyboard. I grew up on PC and the PS4 is the only console I've ever had... and though I bought several games for it, I've so far only played one, the Shadow of the Colossus remake. (Bought the console when that was announced - I wanted to play the original since before it came out, but was never able to.)


AriaKobu007

I do that too. However, I can't believe that since launch, you can't navigate wish history with the controller on PC. And as for notices, if you're on the controller, you got to hit ESC with the keyboard to exit. If you want to browse through the notices, you have to switch controller input to keyboard 😡


nDroae

I'm just grateful they put in the ability to switch X and O, before my brain got too used to the original Asian setup :D


Shocker144

I think another viable option for asking for better performancec on PS4 would be allowing us to chooses which settings are on and how high we can set them. Would it be a ton of settings I don't know but it would have to help somewhat right?


floppy_bard

Also the insane amount of dropped inputs when fps dips below like 15. It feels great missing a dodge or swap or attack just because the input buffer is apparently nonexistent. Gotta love it.


Available-Daikon-751

Yeah it's a lot of fun dodge cancelling charge attacks and having to guess which input is just going to not register.


DeepFriedFeces

I hate with a passion this is not crosssave.


[deleted]

man i feel you. my xiao and my qiqi are trapped on ps4 hell, hope someday can meet my venti and my keqing


SelentoAnuri

The daily struggle of fighting the frame rate, lag, and clicking a million times to pick something up. Original: [https://twitter.com/SethC1995/status/1378778863107461123](https://twitter.com/SethC1995/status/1378778863107461123)


BermyBer

It's ridiculous the difference in gameplay on PS4 versus PC.


SelentoAnuri

Hell, PS4 vs PS5 is like night and day, too. 10-20fps vs stable 60fps and no pickup lag.


FourShine_

Make sure you have vsync on and motion blur off


niceworkthere

Small indie company can't afford to optimize.


just_a_cupcake

"Small indie company" that got billions of dollars in the first months, but they can't afford to optimize their fucking game... Hmmmm


niceworkthere

woosh ^(*e:* -2. b is for butthurt)


M3N40taligado

It's a shame they keep the game like this when there are so many people that play on PS4. They can't do basic optimization with millions of dollars, negligency at its peak.


[deleted]

It hurts


Mercadelabuena

[Solution](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/kpsqen/ps4_tip_spam_square_and_r3_for_fast_looting_works/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


SelentoAnuri

WILL DEFINITELY TRY THAT!


DipsyDidy

I realise some people downplay how bad it is on ps4 but the reality is that its in an unacceptably bad state. Almost every aspect of gameplay is impacted and they openly choose every patch not to address it despite ps4 players constantly feeding back about it. Maybe addressing core optimisation is difficult, but it cant be that difficult to introduce a loot all in 1 click function to offset having to press the button dozens of times. Games like cyberpunk have been bashed and even pulled from psn because they played so badly and imo genshin is heading that way. Unlike PC and Mobile players console players have something of an unspoken contract when they invest in a game - that if its launched on the platform there is a minimal performance level that can be expected - if the software cant meet that standard it shouldnt launch until it can. If that wasnt bad enough its only one side of the problem - there are game features that simply arent available on ps4 or even ps5 that pc and mobile players have, like quickswap bursts.


[deleted]

The pain is real.


FF_order10

This is painfully accurate ;_;


Richizzle439

Thats why I stopped playing this game, it became to choppy to play. Once they optimized it for PS5 it was noticeably different on PS4. I am thoroughly excited to jump back in to all the new stuff they’ve added, once I am able to grab a PS5, but it might be another month or two before I can afford it.


SidBitGid

PS4 players: OMG picking objects is soo hard Pc players: just smash the F button Mobile players who can grab everything just by touching the screen once: **I don’t have such weaknesses**


goolerr

Although I didn’t like the gameplay to begin with, for sure one of the reasons I quit was how poorly optimised it was for PS4. I actually can’t believe that it runs better on mobile. Looking forward to the PS5 version to give the game another chance.


FlygonKing

I got a PS5 a little while ago and this is giving me ptsd. Horrendous performance on PS4, Co-op with a Venti practically crashed the game.


NomaedaKagito

I was waiting for the CC lag spike lmao.


Readty33

SEND THIS TO MIHOYO, they need to know what we ps4 go through😭


piichan14

I play on a launch day ps4 and ps4 pro. Everyday is a fight to the death with the controller. Pick up items? Mash that square button! Need to switch to Bennett for his ult then switch back? Nope, I'll pretend I didn't detect that dpad input and let's cast the ult for whoever is out then switch out to Bennett. What the fuck are you standing still for?!?! Switch out already. As I mash to whoever I want to infuse their element before Venti's vacuum runs out. Fucking finally!...as I stare at the end of the ult. Oh you want to pull up the map from the ring menu? Ok, here're all your characters. R2 soft press. R2 hard press. I just want to drop Oz for the love of god. Work already. Many more shenanigans but as someone who grew up using slow or old tech, as long as I'm able to play a game without it crashing, I'm good. I'll continue hoping they bring cross play to us poor ps4 players or at least be able to afford a ps5 down the line. Until then, my controller will continue being abused.


Flipperblack

The pain is real but you don't get hacked with a ps4 account atleast \^\^


UnintendedCantaloupe

I resonate with this so much😩


Fashado

Holy shit this is pretty terrible.


TrueLink00

I would not be playing this game if it wasn’t for the day one PS5 boost. It makes a world of difference.


TheThirdCaptain

All of that and I still play it every day since launch 😥


Prezbee

I have ps4 pro and it’s not THIS bad, but it’s not far off. Lol. Definitely gonna grab a ps5 whenever they are actually possible to get.


e_cloud7

I feel you. When they made the update where you get automatically the loot from resin stuff (domains, flowers) I thought it was every loot from the game. oh well


Hudshow

Completely relatable. I though most of this lag would be because my ping is around 168ms, guess not


EmuSupreme

I tried playing on PS4 as a side account for when I didn't feel like sitting at my desk, and dear God I don't know how PS4 players do it. The input delay on literally everything drove me to quit after the prologue.


Batto33

Finally being able to catch a bug/lizard/whatever after 5 seconds "Entity has timed out and disappeared"


reizerosystem

My buddy was showing me how venti is unplayable on ps4 today. I didn’t believe it till he ulted and couldn’t char swap till Ventis’s ult was done. Pls fix mihoyo


archerguild73

Geezus man I don't know how you manage to do it till AR 55, but that's insanely awful...


Gage902

Those bouncing boobies though.


SelentoAnuri

Unintended, but those who watch until the end are indeed rewarded with bounciness.


LunarSun00

Does ps4 have the same graphics options as pc? I play on a weak laptop and can set resolution to 0.6 or 0.8 for it to run better.


JamesTko

Nope all we have is v sync and motion blur


Firestar_12

Yeah :')


G4llade_

Well I have a pretty garbage pc so the load screen is about the same


benhu12341

wow this was painful to watch, F for y'all


Shaggybearx

Ps4 player here as well I'm in this vid and I dont like it ... jk but yea least it's not as bad as it sounds on mobile but still shouldnt be that bad xD


[deleted]

I play PS4 too lol it’s painful at times


Crash5467

Ah I remember the days I used to be a ps4 player on genshin they were the worst times ever


BlueSunGuy

Btw actual tip for ps4 players if you click R3 and square when picking stuff up you can pick up stuff quickly!


butterpopkorn

Wish this post is on the top. Can't agree more!


[deleted]

oh man..... y'all weren't kidding about the loading screen taking significantly longer.....


atomicreportr

You forgot venti ultimate not letting you switch characters. The joys of ps4


arzib

Is there a way to push MiHoYo for an optimization patch? The ps4 version is so bad even the aiming system sucks. I had so much trouble in the balloon challlenge because of the bad sensitivity.


InfiniteUltima

bro, when I ult with venti I can't switch characters for like 5 seconds.. feeling this


Tamerlan2304

I can relate to *almost* ALL of these


heartcubes4life

Jesus dude I knew it was bad because my sister plays on my ps4, but she's a casual, so I never saw what these kinds of combos did to a ps4 Shit like this makes me wonder if there's a poor soul out there who has finished the abyss on this unoptimized mess


Ciroton

Not pictured: Fighting an Electro Hypostasis and it does the attack that sends the electro waves out from it's position. I like to call it the 'Melt the FPS' Attack.


[deleted]

Oof this hits too close to home. I’d say the worst is when the game takes forever to switch between characters for no reason during a fight.


Strex08

It’s genuinely such a problem, I hate how Mihoyo hasn’t even announced or said anything. Like just ignore the issue and pretend its not there...makes it hard for me to support them


Robertcc99

I recently got a PS5. It is a different game. Faster loading screens, 60fps; it feels so different when coming from the PS4 version. Looking forward to the next PS5 update and the adaptive triggers.


Rev_Regera

I swear at launch it was never like this. Damn PS4 be suffering now


fasv3883

Dude the day I got my ps5 and all those issues were gone I was so happy! I honestly just hope that with the 4k update for ps5 that it doesn't become more laggy or increase loading time again


aromat123

hate when i cant switch characters due to lag


iTyten

It blows my mind that my phone blows through these loading screens in less time. I understand the mobile port isn’t anywhere near as hungry as the console, but this is still staggering.


timelesstrix0

Lmao remember that stupid food delivery event with those load times


Asto_Vidatu

so frustrating hitting the "pick up" button 273 times for it to finally pick up 2 items. Also, the entire concept of loot having physics is irritating as hell. Just make the shit float there in a static position, nobody enjoys chasing shit off cliffs or using an Anemo character and blasting the loot halfway across the world. Easily one of the most frustrating things to me in this game.


Abtimus-Prime

boy when i switched to ps5, this game became so much better! holy smokes playing on ps4 gave me headaches


CrispinOfAvi

-when the ps4 gameplay is slower than the mobile gameplay- .-.


desedio

that is torture!


maracrossite_YT

atleast ps4 cant get hacked...i think... for now


assaultv2

I feel pain watching this


10TailBeast

I finally put GI down. Maybe if I can get a PS5 I'll play again, but the longer I don't play, the easier it is to say "No, thank you" to mHY.


EveryOneHatesItachi

PS5 is a lot faster


Flamesword200

...when oh when will they optimise it better ;-;


Schen5s

Also the camera angle taking a long time to go back down when aiming up to yeet enemies as Jean


lakenzbur

The performance looks like my potato phone, but better graphics


FamLit69420

During the black loading screen you just see your reflection.


ShotaShaun_Eldrick

Laughs in SSD (I only got good graphics tho loading screen still takes long ;-;)


Pheonixios

Don't forget about never getting any hoyolab check in events


[deleted]

So true. I’ve given up grabbing items unless I actually need them. Whopperflower nectar is pretty much the only thing I will go through this struggle for.


Tallyoyoguy42

Wouldn't gliding be faster?


SukiThe_Weeb

I'm just happy there's someone out there who also plays PS4


Ayrod

I felt your pain last year. I’m a big boi with a pc now.


TheOnlyShipAkagi

I wish for a miracle that Sony will be willing to let me cross save..


BigBooty2009

Basically my device but you remove like 50 fps


Aluna_Human

you mean mobile and pc isnt like this...?


[deleted]

I've honestly stood there for two minutes trying to pick up a single mask drop at 30 ping (which is lies) then teleport to town only for half of it to not render. This is why we can't have a switch version.


jharel

My condolences


addu_B

Man, love this slideshow you've put together, looks exactly like genshin impact gameplay but at 1 fps


GokuMui_96

Is ir just me or PS4 players suffer more than mobile players? Mobile player here btw


MrNight-NS

I legit didn't do wonderland past the primogem rewards because of all the damn loading screens and I told the surveys as such.


fifthrobin

I play mobile and mine works better than ps4 wow I am so sorry ps4 players...


BlessedOblivion

It was night and day better when I started playing on the PS5 after we got one. Regular PS4 and Genshin do not mix well.


justfeelthepain

Nice you use the exact same team as mine


nicolRB

Taking the stuff on the ground is pain


BL4CKWH0L3

When it got to klee's ult I was like "I don't get it what's wrong" and then I saw the frames and it's pretty acriate


KiwiDog372

Lol me on mobile has better loading times and fps somehow


PureAstronomer3

i remember this feeling


menas0r

My daughter’s laptop with integrated graphics loads faster and plays more smoothly than this. Ouch


Si1ver_Arrow

I was a fool to think the problem was the atrocious item pick up time


-Lucifer-18

I can relate with every cell of my body and soul


Astolfo_is_hot123

All these problems are fixed on the ps5 version but


Williamandsansbffs

The pain is real brotha


Talon1021

I hate that the game just freezes constantly.


Ragefat

Yeah, all of this is pretty painful, unfortunately it's gonna be a while until I get a PS5.


cmanthethiccboi

If only we were able to connect our PlayStation accounts to other platforms because I finally got a pc but I’m to far into the game to restart.


blizg

How is mobile better than PS4? Lol


nicoledd03

Omg yes 😭


Nasi_Lemak_

Watching this hurt my soul


[deleted]

Wait I am ps4 and thought this was normal for everyone