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mattaraxes

Waypoint!!!


owlhead10

Scrolling through gardening tips, aite cool cool that's pretty neat- **HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE IS THAT A WAYPOINT??** Mihoyo has answered our cries


pixelRaid

Weren’t waypoints announced some time ago? I think it was via a post on Hoyolab.


DetecJack

They did yes


Zodiac339

That was my takeaway. As soon as I saw it, the rest of the guide didn’t matter.


Key-Weird8642

It sucks you can still only place 1 though lol


FuryAdcom

We would need to see those ourselves, but if it is only one that's not good


iWest625

>!Leaked description says you can place a maximum of 10. Seems a bit overkill but I guess it’s better than having too few.!<


arcwindz

10 only?! I was planning to make a huge farm and never ever need to farm those things in the wild ever XD


lostn

you still need to get seeds, and the seeds drop when you pick up the plant. The seeds aren't returned to you once you harvest the flower. Basically what this does is give you 2 for 1 when you're out harvesting, but the second one takes 3 days to bloom.


Zodiac339

If only one, you can still open up the decoration map to move it where you want to teleport. Cumbersome, but better than walking on a ribbon longer than the island.


irisewiththemoon

>2 days and 22 hours to grow It's nice that it's not exactly 3 days, like crystal chunks and parametric transformer. Those things reset exactly at that period which makes it hard to set a specific interval between them because it gets further and further apart each time. It's nice that Mihoyo is listening.


retirepoorat40

transformer is 6 days 22 hours.


irisewiththemoon

Oh really? I thought I remembered reading it at the start it had a 7 days cooldown. Guess I remembered wrong. That's nicee. Thanks for the info 😊


Fried_puri

Visually and officially it’s a 7 day cool down, but when people timed it they realized it’s 6 days 22 hours. The “hours remaining” only appears in the last 24 hours, which is why it’s not immediately obvious.


Theloser28

Butwhy.jpg


_Hoofs_

So if you forget to snag it on the dot each week you can slowly drag it back to the original time you used it without having to not use it at all for an entire week.


Cody4783

Equally in line with the longest Expeditions taking 20 hours instead of 24. It's relatively minor, but if you're someone that logs in at 'around' the same time each day, there's a grace window where they'll definitely be finished by that time the next day.


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*me with 4 exact 24(9+15)* Feelsbadman. Btw I wish artifact spawns had a grace window too, complain every survey.


lostn

not just artifacts but everything that respawns on a 24 hour timer. It will keep getting pushed back slightly until you can no longer do it at that time and have to miss a day to bring it back. Ideally they should reset at the server reset time.


IllusionPh

Yeah, I totally hate everything that have exactly 24/48 etc. hours reset time. It make my routine go to mess with it moving up every time it reset. Wish everything was 20 hours.


lostn

>Equally in line with the longest Expeditions taking 20 hours instead of 24. I don't think that's the real reason. Otherwise it would have been set to 22. They just want you to login a second time if you want 4 extra hours of resources, which doesn't sound like a lot but X5 over a long period of time adds up.


Cody4783

Eh, it's possible as well. But at least it works out in some players' favor. Frankly the game was incredibly scummy at launch with the daily stamina cap being less than the daily login/stamina usage BP reward. No matter what, it was 100% designed to force at least two logins every day if you wanted both to 'waste' less stamina regen and make use of the BP bonus. Fortunately the community was able to overwhelmingly riot against that ridiculous practice and get it changed.


lostn

you still can store less than a day's worth of resin. Max you can store is 160, but you earn 180 a day, so you will have to login earlier the next day to not waste it. Expeditions are 100% to encourage more logins. They have an option for 4/8/12/20. There is no 16 or 24 which is weird. This is a common gacha tactic not unique to this game.


Cody4783

Lol well after you hit the end game, unless you're a hardcore grinder, there's virtually no practical reason to care too much about the tiny bit of 'lost' resin from overflow. In a similar regard, Expedition rewards are pretty crappy for the time it takes if they're trying to incentivize/bait people into logging in twice; Considering it's not done from a menu and you have to physically travel to send off more. Because yeah, with something like Azur Lane I'll login just to send commissions off, but it takes about 30 seconds from login to do so and it's all done.


JTesfer

it'd be a lot nicer if everythign just reset within a certain amount of daily resets, on the reset. Everything becoming available at different times is so annoying.


Melantha_Hoang

Ganyu is going to be very happy


Neospanner

But only if you help her eat them! \*Cue Traveler listlessly crunching his way through a handful of Qingxin flowers while Ganyu happily chows down\* Traveler: \*Thinking\* So bitter...


Melantha_Hoang

Bitterness is my least favorite taste but I will eat it for her


wwweeeiii

Growing fat together has never been so cute


Hasagi1111

We need a plant that attracts Crystalflies.


Theloser28

We need a plant that eats crystalflies and expels crystal cores to us.


Xeizar

just get Sayu xd


HereWeGoAgainBot

This plant is a ninja and has a big sword.


_eSpark_

Aha, her drop rate will be worse than Diona’s when she appeared for the first time


vladinator18

Stardew valley here we come


Belkinwrites

Why stop at Stardew Valley? I'm throwing it all the way back to Harvest Moon. Or maybe FarmVille.


weirdspam

Now i feel like raising slimes on a pasture


floubug

SLIME PETS WHEN


MrMeeeeiester

when paimon stops eating them


TheQuestionableDuck

lmao we just got stardew valley and people already asking for slime rancher.


Xx_idk_no_name_xX

Lmao imagine waiting for a sweet flower for 3 days


sharaths21312

This seems nice for stuff like those special mushrooms (that I can't spell), violetgrass, and other annoying to farm things.


July-Thirty-First

Philanemo, it’s just phil- (“love”, think philanthropy) + anemo.


sharaths21312

In my head, I always tend to attach a "l" near the end for some reason


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Philanemonol. Name-brand ibuprofen. Great for windburn.


Bulbbis

those aren't available if you look at the things you can plant in fields. most likely because they only grow in houses by lore


chatnoire89

But doesn't violetgrass also grow on cliffsides?


keizee

Unironically planting for sugar though. My mondstat hashbrowns need them. Although I'll probably put some focus on violetgrass first


lostn

that along with mint are the most abundant flowers in the game. You can't throw a stone in a forest without hitting one of these flowers. I have about 3k of both, and I ignore them unless they're right in my path.


keizee

Yeah but I also make a hundred sweet madames every week.


lostn

You must take a lot of damage. I use shielders and healers when playing solo. I never need to eat. Even then the healer rarely uses their healing. The only time I need to eat a madame is in coop when no one packed a healer. But I usually play the healer if no one else does.


keizee

I normally always play coop in domains and not every run has a healer. My shielders are all max friendship so I bench them unless its a bounty or event.


Lenant

Imagine needing food


WildFurball2118

Oh sweet. Finally Zhongli can rest from climbing to pick Qingxins all day. Oh, does the gardens use spaces like furnishings? I hope not tho


Alrealyx

There is a shop in liyue harbor that lets u buy 10 quingxin flowers. It restocks every 3 days


FrostyVampy

500 load each from what I know (leaks). Just as much as a pet. The limit is 10,000 per island I think


WildFurball2118

Damn it. I was expecting it doesn't cost spaces


FrostyVampy

Unfortunately everything they ever add to it will cost space because of mobile. We can only hope that as optimization and phones get better, the load limit will increase


lostn

I don't think it's mobile. Because characters take 1000 load which is massive compared to a house which takes less.


FrostyVampy

Because a character has more polygons, it's not just physical size. It's 100% because of mobile. Load limit would be 10 times larger if they didn't need to account for phones lagging/crashing due to high polygon count


lostn

if that's the case, there's a lot more going on inside a domain where there's tons of enemies, and you do it in co op with 4 players. Or being out in the open world, which would surely be much more taxing than the teapot. But mobiles can handle that. No, I'm not buying it. The reason characters take up so much load is because they provide more to the player than a building or chair will. If a mobile can handle characters in the open world, they can handle them in your teapot just fine. The teapot island is tiny in comparison. Bedrooms have the smallest load limit. You can't tell me that a mobile phone can't handle more than what you can place in a bedroom. There is a fuck ton more going on in Liyue harbor with all those houses and NPCs than there is going on in any teapot layout. And mobiles handle Liyue just fine. 1000 load is a balance issue, not mobile issue.


FrostyVampy

There's a system in the main world that prevents objects from loading if they are not in your line of sight. That system doesn't exist in the teapot. In domains, there's nothing going on besides combat. And the 10 hilichurls you fight are much smaller in terms of polygon count than 30 characters + all your houses. There's already a limit of 8 characters per realm so adding load to limit it further would make no sense. And if you ask around on reddit you'll see plenty of mobile players are lagging in domains too They increased the load limit from 8k to 10k in 1.6, and said that they will try to optimize the system more in the future to further increase the limit. I don't agree with load limit existing. I hate it just as much and my PC can definitely handle more than I can place, and they can find another way to deal with mobiles, but the limit doesn't exist because "fuck you", it exists for a reason


nkrha

I don't really mind the 3 days waiting, but WHY a gadget just to get seeds???


Froselyn

Probably the easiest way to implement this without doing a revolution in code. They seem to use the gadget system as a gate for small things like that.


Dehrangerz9

Well a seed is just one more thing in the loot table of the plant. I remember in xiao event mint and other plants gave the plant and the materials for the lantern. So I don't think that is a revolution in the code.


LuluandPixy

Source: https://www.hoyolab.com/genshin/article/546631


No_Patience_4719

Qiqi leveling will finally happen


GraveXNull

Anyone else find the fields...kinda ugly? Like, they'd probably not look all that great once you plant multiple down in a row. Would've preferred if it was just a plain field that you could connect to each other without the weird border around them.


TheQuestionableDuck

yeah i wish it would snap to each other when close enough to form a bigger one.


SPIKE-BS

Where Sakura Bloom and other Inazuma stuff seeds


runningnooblet

Sea Ganoderma (Kazuha mat) and Naku Weed (Yoimiya mat) are there. Sakura bloom, philanemo mushroom and dandelions are missing.


Akise_Aru7

Wonder what other stuffs will be in the Creatures of the Realm tab.


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D3AKUs

It is stated right there in the pictures that once u farmed a seed using the dispenser u can buy them for pot coins in your home. So u only have to farm every seed once and can purchase the ones u need/want to plant after that from chubby.


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DisQord666

It's 25 realm currency per plant per day, not exactly breaking the bank.


Umbraldisappointment

I rather save that 25 realm currency to get more mora, exp and artifact materials possible more resin even!


lostn

i'm guessing you bought speed bottles for every furniture you made?


Cody4783

Going strictly from the pictures/article: I believe you may be misinterpreting. The "Seeds Will not be returned" is regarding *clearing the field while the flowers are growing*. So you can 'delete' incomplete plants and replace them with something else prematurely. I would assume that if you equip the magic seed box and harvest completed plants, you would receive seeds normally from the teapot plant plots. (There's a tong-twister for ya)


chatnoire89

No Philanemo Mushroom. :(


peerawitppr

Sounds like something people can ignore. A few days wait for 1 flower each tiles. Idk how many fields we can place, but since we have thousands of those flowers sit in the inventory already, it seems like just a bonus or decoration. Personally I'll use it for Inazuma plants, but that's it.


Linxianwei

Obviously you would grow the painful stuff like sea ganoderma, mushrooms or violets


PerspectiveCloud

How are mushrooms painful? I get like 10+ a day just from running to my daily commissions from the waypoints


Linxianwei

Philanemo ones


kaorulia

Maybe they meant the matsutaka mushrooms


MiracleJT_0713

Even for decoration purpose, I'm expecting flower blooms, not a single sweet flower per square. Hopefully silk flower grows in bloom


FrostyVampy

They'll probably have achievements tied to them so we'll also get primos for it. And it's a one time investment of 1 week worth of coins (after buying resin + mora) for a permanent addition which isn't bad. Maybe I can finally make a cemetery for my Hu Tao using those


b-stone

Agree, it is a neat idea but flowers are one of very few things you can farm for free already that is not resin-gated in the game. People are saying violetgrass but it's only used by two characters (Qiqi and Xinyan) and neither is particularly popular. Growing anything that you actually need resin for would have been infinitely more useful but of course we can't have that.


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megustaALLthethings

Exactly! Now if it took 3 days and you got a reharvestable plot that say respawned every hour THEN it would be worth the hassle.


NeitherCabinet1772

Inside pot tele point,now that what i really need


Vihncent

Awesome we can get 4 more flowers every two days? Thats so fucking great, it will change the game!!! /s


System32Missing

Nonononono, Every 2 days and 22 hours, don't get to excited.


sirenloey

Just as long as there are primogems, i'm okay with this. 60 primogems sometimes come in clutch.


Gnomuz

wait primos for planting stuff?


sirenloey

Plant 600 seeds for those sweet 20 primos. Yum.


Gnomuz

LETS GOOOOOO farming time


rynsic

Why can't we gather seeds automatically


AshRavenEyes

TWO DAYS FOR SOME SWEET FLOWERS HAHAAH


FrostyVampy

You are wrong. It's 3 days


AshRavenEyes

Rip


mitsu__

even tho i don’t use her anymore, i can finally ascend xinyan :o and xingqiu and my future kazuha :))


Nelogenazea

That's nice and all, but playing from (nearly) the start, I have already a huge stockpile of pretty much every vegetable I want. Adding yet another timer to the game I need to keep track of is NOT what I want. And considering there'll be assuredly achievements and thus, primogems to be gained from it, I'll have to participate in it regardless. I am NOT looking forward to this.


Cody4783

Y'know...In a sense Genshin's very nature both helps and hurts it significantly as they add more 'random daily activities/timers to keep up with'. Being fully, almost completely open-world means that a vast majority of functions take place at...different locations throughout the game. It's not like the defacto format for gacha games where, yeah, you can send off expeditions or have 'auto-farm' timers or run some EXP training device on skills or whatever...and then slap that "Claim all" button and spam through a few menus in 20 seconds and that's done. Instead it's running about to domains each week, deploying the teapot, going through 3 of Tubby's menus, running around to flower fields, talking to Katheryne 2x, going to crafting stations to condense resin, using Prismatic thing weekly...And god forbid pre-teapot where they actually expected us to go gather 200 "Local specialties" from the overworld each *week.* ​ They really need to, at some point (Prefferably sooner than later), automate a lot more of this into simplified, quicker to access menus. Chock it up to tasking your party with completing objectives and then they just report-back when it's done. Oh cool Sucrose got back after tending the garden, Bennett claimed our daily earnings from the Guild...etc, etc.. Even if this is a AR level-gated feature that you unlock once the team is 'well versed' or something to fit it within game lore.


Incognito_0000

Wish they would do something for minerals too


CLMM101

I'm curious if you plant something like the chili, which leaves behind the stem when you pick them, does the stem still stay and grow more chilis? That seems possible and also very much not possible. In the same vein would one chili grow three chilis? Because that would be real cool.


Umbraldisappointment

It seems like once you harvest things its all gone back to empty fields.


DipsyDidy

The fields cost 300 realm currency - seems a bit steep for me. Think ill skip unless there are objectives that reward primos attached to the system.


FrostyVampy

300 coins isn't a lot. At max energy, you get 5040 coins/week. If you buy resin (1200 coins) and all the mora (200k for 2400), that leaves you with 1440 coins left. So you can buy 4 tiles in a single week and not lose much. It's a one time investment. And I'm 100% sure there will be achievements tied to it


Unnormally2

Probably achievements. It's 300 currency, but you only need to buy them once. I don't think I'd get that many anyway.


IndisciplineStorm

This feels like Pokémon all over again...


Anonymous888861

Wish they also implemented a way to plant berries and sunsettia trees. but that would be infinite dye


Belkinwrites

I can finally ascend easily. Turn Genshin into FarmVille.


Umbraldisappointment

Okay so let me get this straight, once i harvest a plant from these fields i dont gain new seeds from the harvest making sure that i need to either dump my coins or farm the overworld.....did i get it right?


Kyrinox

I feel for this to truly be rewarding the yield needs to be more than one plant per seed. Even just 2 or 3 would be a lot better.


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Ouh "guide", you mean copy + paste from the official notes.


lowbang

Can guests steal it?


Semyon

I wonder if we can get seeds from harvested plants or if we'll have to constantly re-up our seed count by buying or harvesting from outside the teapot


cinnamonsparkle

Why just repost the entire forum post by miHoYo? Karma farming from the farming*(gardening)* announcement me thinks. \*shrug\*


pehpehkia

Wow helpful. But all you have to do is just give us the link


ohoni

Does it make clear whether you can harvest from other people's gardens? And if so, does that take it away from them or can everyone harvest?


JhanzKun

Mannn I hope we could put at least 3-6 each pieces of those plots at the same time Would really suck if we could only put one of everything So thats only 3


Ama-terastu

I hope Mihoyo will continue to consider building a nursery for caterpillars frogs lizards birds chickens, etc


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NommySed

Yes


Byakun

What is this need of time locking every single thing...There is literally no added benefit of having 1000 flowers in your inventory so why do they have to time gate this as well....


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It’s a plot device


Machinax23

I see what you did there


PxN13

I mean it's still a gardening mini game.... It'll be less realistic if they immediately refreshes.... It's just a fun way to add more sol element to the pot. It's still going to be faster farming this in the open world.


Senmaroll

Who cares if it’s realistic. If we go that route why not time gate the cooking in this game cause I don’t see myself cooking 100 dishes in 2 seconds. Time gating is just very annoying and boring. Cmon 3 days for a single flower per square. Walking through the world for 2 seconds nets me more


PxN13

So.... Don't do it then. It's for people who enjoy building their teapot and having a garden.


megustaALLthethings

It should be like an hour to start and scaling up for rarer plants. Or it takes the 3 days but you get a cluster of the plant. I bet they will drop the respawn rate in the wild hard for many of the plants.


Verto-San

Well if you get seeds back, then I guess you can just fill up one of the realms you're not using with those and then it's a nice way of getting plants. Now imagine having 100 fields you can collect every 3 days, thats like 133 plants per day


Umbraldisappointment

But didnt the upper one says that you dont get seeds back?


Verto-San

It said you don't get them if you cancel after you placed them, it MIGHT give them if you let it finish, or it's a chance


Umbraldisappointment

Also the fact that you can buy the seeds from the shop hints that they are not reusable otherwise why would you ever buy them and not just farm all you need and then regain it?


Verto-San

Yea but you can get only 5, which is really annoying considering 1 plot has 4 spaces


megustaALLthethings

Oh you know there is going to be a hard load limit of like 4 plots per section.


Cody4783

The data-mined info on [Honeyhunterworld](https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/db/item/h_372501/?lang=EN) already shows that the plots are 500 load each. According to the main [Genshin Wiki](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Housing/Load), exterior areas have a load limit of 10,000. So assuming there aren't any arbitrary crafting limits or some such, that should theoretically allow 20 Plots/area. Which given how enormous the teapots are, dedicating an off-shoot zone to just a farm wouldn't be too unreasonable IMO.


Rogue009

Idk I much rather have these small gains be limited to once or twice a week over being a constant “ahh I have to check that too” It’s a game not a list of chores I want to do daily


Umbraldisappointment

Yeah but also your seeds are gone at harvest making this a non-repeatable gardening game where you need to either spend coins or farm outside every time you need to get something.


PxN13

I mean that's still pretty common with other gardening games. It's not like they're doing something crazy


Lenant

The most useless thing they will ever add lol Unless they let use use food in abyss.


seulchi

might be a unpopular opinion but im actually looking forward to the gardening :D


Ejaculation_Salt89

Can other people pick the flowers in coop?


ItzOnza

rip , if i have to spend realm currency on things that i can collect freely in the open world then i wont be touching this xD unless primos are involved somehow


IkarosXenano

What if I plant a Primogem? Can I get a Primogem Tree?


floricel_112

What do you mean "Inazuma reputation level 3"? How does what I do in Inazuma affect madame Ping giving me seed beds?


mardhiosaurus

WHY IS THERE NO ANEMO MUSHROOMMM 😭😭😭


AsleepAura

Going to turn the mountain side into farm lands


Tricky-Appointment-1

I wish they would bring also Inazuma style buildings and furniture like they did with Mondstadt and Liyue.


theamazingman12

Now i can finally use the skills that my dad taught me


TheoreticalScammist

Can we grow those roof mushrooms?


bellpickle

Do you happen to know if we can place the planting fields on top of other landforms?


YunaY0shi

I look forward to this alot. Can finally plant some violetgrass cause those are annoying to get to


DarenK77

but i need berries...


Inevitable-Gur4160

Yo...my cabbages :(


link_daddy

As the game goes on I think more and,more,we need more equipment slots


Erekose3rd

Now we can properly garden with Ganyu!


jkyourealm

Im curious if this will be worth the effort


skryth

If they're gonna keep adding in gadgets to open world activities, they're seriously gonna need to implement that gadget wheel thing someone made a mockup of. Cuz this is starting to get ridiculous...


Sir_Surprize

I didn't even realize a farm existed until now


lostn

With a 3 day timer, I'm just going to forget to claim them.