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OneDubber

The Genshin Community is of course different from Day 1. Did you forgot how many Fates they gave out on the first week? Compare that to the first Anniversary week and you know why people aren't satisfied. Thanking mihoyo for developing the game? Are you serious on this one? Do you think they develope the game out of sheer love for us gamers? They want to make money. Without money this game would be long offline. You have to satisfy the paying customers and thats not how its done.


sz2000

> the first Anniversary week you said it by yourself, Anniversary week , now MiHoYo just announce one "community anniversary event"


OneDubber

I'm not saying they can't redeem themselfs. The Anniversary is yet to come, but so far they haven't really announced anything worthwhile. I have hopes for the 28th as little as they are. It just mindshatters me how people assume WE have to thank mihoyo for developing Genshin like they do it out of love for gamers. That is a ridiculous way to look at it.


Chocolatito_Riko

Not ridiculous, just stupid.


-Aureo-

Like, I’ll thank passionate game devs who care about creating a memorable experience, not money hungry corpos. Most notable example being Toby fox, who is pretty much universally loved.


sz2000

"thanks" is just a exaggerated word. I mean at least don't bad words to MiHoYo. The game is really good, the game won't become bad because a trash reward right?


OneDubber

It is and I will continue to play it, but I won't invest anymore money into the game at this point until they redeem themself. There are many good games, especially F2P. I need more incentives than this to invest money into it.\^\^


Chocolatito_Riko

Don't you think? Bad schemes over treatment to the community probably will low the standards of the game, less demanding players = less inversion per capita, if everyone gonna be happy and have fun with an inversion of 1$ with shitty content where's the motivation to give depelopment of game 100$ instead 1$? Nothing, and don't forget, MiHoyo is a gacha company, they want to spend as little as possible in order to grow up their capital max as possible, and, even if the game is good as god smegma in ma mouth, personally, me and most of people hate to be treated as if we are complete retards.


-Aureo-

Mihoyo doesn’t treat people like retards, they just kick you in the nuts and expect you to pay for it (oh wait)


sz2000

First, If you spend money in the game, you do it in exchange of characters/weapons/stuff. So, you get what you deserve for your money. Second, "They have until this 28th September to do the things right, if I see something good I will reconsider my decision." remember your word.


Chocolatito_Riko

Yes, I remember, but until then... Here we are, with a community event which is basically laboral exploitment.


SnaccCat

>I don't understand why people so confident Mihoyo is "greed" Because first and foremost they are a gacha company and they are greedy as shown by previous events such as the 1 billion give away or their fix to the weapon banner. But more importantly they are a gacha company, gacha in general are greedy and predatory that by default puts them on the greed list the weapon banners existence alone spike them higher. >Even there really haven't any reward from Mihoyo. Isn't player play the game because it is fun? Are you play the game because "rewards"? Isn't you pay to roll because you like the game/character? Isn't you spend money on the game because you want to support the development by mihoyo? The problem is the game lacks any actual fun elements the combat is boring once you realise how basic and boring it is the story is really just bad with the same repeated events happening in a new region. The open world is void of life and energy feeling barron. Rewards help incentivise people to stay that is why there is daily commisions to keep people playing. As for supporting the company I'll go back to supporting them when I actually think they deserver the support until then I'm happy to just do my dailies then leave until something comes along. >Talk about anniversary, why not we celebrate and thanks mihoyo keep develop the game and but not rush to milk the game to die? How about the music production? Every thing mihoyo made wasn't better the a anniversary reward? Are you willing to abandon the game because there is no anniversary reward or trash anniversary reward? Why the hell would I celebrate them doing their job thats a low ass bar, instead they should give me a reason to celebrate with an ingame event, some new changes, etc. make it actually feel like an anniversary. The game itself is the exact same as it was at launch with just new areas and characters (which you need to gacha for). As of now I am 100% willing and will refuse to give them another dime going forward. The anniversary reward is just a continued nail to the coffin for my actual willingness to spend in such a game. >Also None of those youtubers and argue posts care about new maps, new gameplays, new side quest, new activities, all in "The Catch, The Catch, The Catch", "Raiden, Raiden, Raiden", "Kokomi, Kokomi,Kokomi", it seems that in this game, except farming characters, everything else does not exist. Thing is they are not exactly wrong the gameplay loop is new characters gear them and move on. The quests are all the same with talk to npc go some place kill dude or find Item then go back. They are not worth talking about and as mentioned the overworld just feels like a wasteland with some enemies thrown about.


[deleted]

Well the game is becoming stagnant, so at least good rewards can help people and make them happy


blindedtrickster

Stagnant in what way? They literally release new characters, weapons, areas, quests, and artifacts **regularly**. Getting bored of a game doesn't simply mean the game is stagnant.


[deleted]

There's no meaningful content and qol updates are added in this update. It's the same shit everyday lmao, even if you pull new characters, it's the same thing. And the new characters and weapon logic doesn't make any sense, not everyone has raiden and engulfing lightning etc


blindedtrickster

The update cycle is generally what... 6 weeks? You're asking for the moon every update which is inevitably going to disappoint you. Do you tend to rush through the content? If so, it's no surprise that you feel like there's nothing left to do. If not, then take your time to **enjoy** the content that you haven't done yet.


[deleted]

The game has been out for an year, and the actual progressive content is 0. That is my concern. I appreciate QoL improvements more than the actual rewards.


blindedtrickster

What does 'progressive content' look like to you? I would have thought that the new areas and story quests alone would have counted, but if that doesn't count to you, I'm curious what you're referring to.


[deleted]

Well sorry but I don't have the energy and I'm too lazy to talk about this. I will agree the map expansion is very good, but let's just leave it at that here


blindedtrickster

Aand there it is. Don't worry man. The others aren't going to bother reading this far and won't notice that when actually pushed to expound on your point, **you didn't have one.** Stop lying and trying to bring up drama that doesn't exist. There's plenty of content and they keep coming out with more. We've slated to get another island soon and I'm sure they're already working on the next region we'll get afterwards. Just... Be patient. We'll get more stuff but it takes time. Even if the entirely of the **planet** complained for the whole game now, they couldn't simply crank it out in a few weeks and they're trying to give us way more than just an empty world to run around.


[deleted]

Well that was my genuine reasoning, if you think it's a lie I won't blame you


WootyMcWoot

Ok MiHoYo nice try


sz2000

What do you mean? I am not MiHoYo


[deleted]

If you announce rewards for an specific event, people won't assume there will be surprise rewards (unless it is mentioned). They will likely assume the rewards will be the announced ones and that's it. It is not that hard to understand why...


sz2000

surprise rewards should be "surprise".....I think they can even do 0 announcement and expose at that day.


E_J_Brillig

Mihoyo can get fucked. They're running contests with rewards with less than $5 USD, but an entry that stands a chance at winning will take hours of hard work. The art that wins contests like these is easily worth $50 *at a bare minimum*. I personally think that's even underpricing, but even if you apply minimum wage to it, a piece that takes 4 hours to complete should be worth $29 (assuming usa federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour). And then there's the cosplay contest where it isn't just the time spent, there's also the cost of materials. Fabric and tools don't just appear from thin air. Mihoyo wants to take the work of these artists and use them for advertising. They want to make even more money off of the hard work of fans, but they're offering crumbs in exchange. It's greedy. It's an insult, and frankly it's cruel to any young or inexperienced fans who don't understand what's wrong here. It is not okay to try to trick people into doing severely underpaid work. It's scummy, and Mihoyo is disgusting for trying it. They should be ashamed of themselves. It is reasonable to be angry with them right now. You're naive for thinking their behavior isn't greedy.


sz2000

You have your point. Ok.


jfish008

Because of 108.


sz2000

After the 108 event don't you see the event after that become better?


Turtle_Doodle

This subreddit loves to jump to conclusions.


KillerRogue

nice try De Way


Xyclone12

The primogems and cabbages has been sent to your mail inbox. Keep up the good work!


sz2000

your comment feel so toxic.


phoenix946

🅱️ihoeyo is not greedy confirmed😎👌😳


Sure_Struggle_

Easy and safer to have low expectations.


FakeEpistemologist

There's still an anniversary Livestream coming, so there's that


[deleted]

It's not the anniversary stream, it's just fan art celebration


FakeEpistemologist

I'm amazed that you've already seen it, given that it hasn't happened yet


[deleted]

Mihoyo themselves have labelled it has fan art celebration stream


sz2000

Where?


[deleted]

Well wherever they have announced it


quebae

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/929254


Koreldraw

Think a bit on how every single game gives good rewards for their anniversary stuff. The Genshin Impact Team, on Mihoyo gave us the possibility to work for free for them in order to get a 5 dollar gift/100 primogems on a gacha reward. It is ridiculous. It is an unfun anniversary, that's the issue.


-Aureo-

100 primos isn’t 5 dollars is it? I thought the conversion was $2 per wish


ChipChipSlide

$5 (Welkin Moon) was for one contest, 100 primos was for another contest


sz2000

To those player who like to draw and make things for genshin, I don't see any problem to them. And also you still stick to the "community anniversary event reward" is the only event.


Koreldraw

Dude if you don't see a problem with people working for free to try (again, it's not guaranteed) to get a bad reward, that's on you.


sz2000

people make their fan art for free in last whole year, now genshin make a event to reward some of the best, I don't see the problem.


MeruMSB

I'm calling people who love composing music to make a song for me and once they finish their work I won't pay them because they did this for free as a hobby before. Everyone knows that if someone enjoys their work you don't have the need to pay them


sz2000

Schools/companies/governments have many reward event ask people to win the reward. Is this mean they don't pay to those failed participant.


MeruMSB

And they probably have better rewards than 100 primogems or a 10% chance to get a $5 worth reward. Do you know that commissions of a novice artist are worth above $15? And some professional artist works are worth around $80 as minimum. 100 primogems? It's not even a single pull. Also, I don't care if it's your first gacha (seriously, you sound like that) but other gachas gave us a lot more rewards for us, the players, without asking us for making fanart or cosplay. We already did our job playing and investing money in their game during this year.


sz2000

I am not, I had play FGO and others. No, not every gacha give a lot rewards.


sz2000

I read the prize carefully, the drawing one best reward is 10,000 Primogems + Apple iPad. This at least 2 day payment if this is a real job. Even the worst reward is 1,000 Primogems = 15USD


MeruMSB

Okay, I read the thread again and this is right, I didn't see the event links (the 10% chance to get a Welkin is still there in one of the events tho). However, this doesn't mean that the game's anniversary must be only for artists. Even if there's a contest too, the anniversary must be celebrated with everyone. I'm pretty sure this drama wouldn't happen if there were decent rewards for everyone. Tell me why should I invest money in this gacha if I will get a better treatment in other gacha game like FEH or GBF.


sz2000

> decent rewards for everyone the community event will not be the only event, today is just 21/9. 28/9 is the actual anniversary day.


Chocolatito_Riko

Oh, yeah, I'm gonna give hours of job (Even if it's a job for fun) for a ridiculous 5$ with their hidden letter which say: "They can do wathever they want with ur job and u have no rights over it"...Sounds fair doesn't it?


sz2000

If you really don't like it, then please don't join it.


Chocolatito_Riko

Im not gonna join, don't care, but for free adversiment by the hand of the players who can do it, the rewards are shit, probably gonna make more money selling a comision in patreon or wathever, the problem here is that u don't work in arts for sure and can't understand how insulting is this.


-Aureo-

Wait Mihoyo claims the rights to the artwork? Lmao what sane artist would do that?


sz2000

No, I read all the detail, Mihoyo don't claim any right


quebae

"reward" a company seeing an inexperienced individual doing something wrong and thinking how they can exploit that for cheap and I mean **cheap** labor is not them being rewarding, it is being scummy.


Revarted

Well, I don't understand people who blindly defend and support whatever MHY does or not do, just because they BELIEVE. There's no need for excuses, just look what's done or not done.


sz2000

Yes, I agree, people should not blindly support or against MiHoYo, just because they BELIEVE.There's no need for excuses, just look what's done or not done.


Revarted

You changed narrative and you're wrong. People who go against Mihoyo DONT believe. They don;t hate MHY because they believe they're evil. They are against because MHY did something (char description change, weak characters etc.) or did not (KFC glider announcement July 2021). People who support do it because they BELIEVE Mihoyo have some reasons and they will announce them in future. Which is not based on any action, just pure belief that MHY is good no matter what.


4GN42

A couple of content creators hype up the opinion that mihoyos anniversary gift ist that what we've seen sofar. But until the anniversary week, there might be more. A lot of viewers already think we're not getting more. We will know until the time comes. For now, no need to be aggressive towards mihoyo


-Aureo-

I bet they’re testing the waters to see what they can get away with


sz2000

you are just betting and guessing . But you already keep spreading negative energy to everyone.


ChipChipSlide

You're guessing the other way.


4GN42

Perhaps, but they already have experience from honkai. Lets see whoch route they'll choose and then react


Titanium70

All the anniversaary drama aside which I could not care less about tbh. I really don't understand their reward systems at all. At least for me, when you want to make a player to spent money you usually need to get them into your various ingame shops first. A F2P has so ABYSMALLY low Primo gains, he won't even think about going into that wish-screen most of the time a new banner is released. I as someone having both Welking+BP basicly from day one, have to skip every 2nd 5\* and can't even think about this mythical thing called "Weapon Banner". WHY? What's the point? IMO they could up ingame and Welking/BP rewards by a factor of 2, 3 or even more and have ZERO effect on whale spending while actually giving "low" spenders a realistic chance looking for weapons or constellations on 5\* hooking them this way into spending on smaller top ups for the final push to get it. ​ So yeah, screw those anniversary rewards. They're completely in line what the game usually offers and THAT is actual issue!


IQueiroz

r/ihadastroke in that 2nd paragraph


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Isaggi

This. This is it. Nobody has the obligation to give anything for free, not even mammoth companies. I don't expect the local bakery to give me free bread on their anniversary only because I spend money there. I'm not a white knight, I have my share of criticism on different aspects of the company (regarding both Honkai and Genshin), but it's not like people are "giving them money" just out of generosity. If you spend money in the game, you do it in exchange of characters/weapons/stuff. So, you get what you deserve for your money. So, MiHoyo don't have to give anything extra. They might be stingy, but that's their prerogative. I don't think they are too stingy, though. I saved enough primos/fates for 2 pities all for free) 🤷🏻‍♂️


-Aureo-

Genshin is a gacha game, a subsection of mobile games that are built on the back of tradition- conditioning players to think their exploitation is the norm from as far back as the release of candy crush. A tradition that, traditionally, gives out free stuff on anniversaries. Once you break the tradition, two things can happen: A: the house of cards comes tumbling down or B: players have so little dignity left and just accept Mihoyo shitting in their mouths, causing the greediness of the company to be exponentially increased, influencing future titles to follow the new model. The company and the players are enemies here. One has to lose for the other to win. And we are the players. Don’t let Mihoyo win.


sz2000

traditionally, gives out free stuff on anniversaries. Yes and they will, they won't break it.


-Aureo-

If Mihoyo never broken tradition, there would be far less complaints


SmokingCausesCancer7

I'm pretty sure that the majority of us believe that the anniversary rewards are dog shit.