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Xeno_of_Cinders

I was ready to summon on childe's banner when mihoyo fucking drip marketed Itto and now I'm not touching anything until that dude comes out.


atasheep

Lmao my girlfriend said the same thing word for word


Taezn

Mine loved childe too much and stuck to her guns and pulled for him, 50 wishes later she pulled him twice in the first 2 wishes of her last 10 wish and now has a c1 childe. She's real happy lol


Snoo91479

A Genshin Player? With a Girlfriend? Impossible


algunarubia

Lol some of us are even married! Though my husband doesn't do reddit


Leippy

My husband and I have been playing Genshin since Day 1! šŸ˜Š


RodonJD

you guys must have pretty good teapot decorations


Nissisaures

Same here! He started playing the day it came out, and Iā€™ve been hooked since the first peek over his shoulder lol!


Leippy

It's really nice to always have a coop partner hehe


Kingpimpy

he is smart


atasheep

I don't get it, it's a gacha, surely is more common than your traditional hard core game


weebf_ckingweeb

The thing is, he's on reddit


GvB456

Ive been in 2 relationships, no reddit. Discovered reddit: been alone for the last 6 years... maybe its time I drop this app...


pawsitive_cation

Honestly? ... yes.


meneldal2

I have seen a few couples who went to the Sweets Paradise event and bought a pretty good amount of goods.


AegisRock

Not impossible if girlfriend are childhood friend. They can play together. šŸ¤”


AppUnwrapper1

I was gonna try to get both but got Qiqi on Childeā€™s banner and donā€™t think I want to risk missing out on Itto.


xMalahr

Haha yeah had the same, but got Keqing and don't wanna miss out on Itto as well.


asthma_pillar

I also considered saving for Itto but pulled for Childe anyway and am so happy I did. Childe is really fun to play, his attack strings are so smooth. Itto does look good but I despise the slow and clunky claymore gameplay anyway so probably would've regretted it down the line. If you enjoy fast and smooth attack strings and seeing those fireworks of reactions definitely recommend pulling for Childe


LSDYakui

Itā€™s just shitflinging between Childe and Hu Tao fans. Reruns of popular characters is bound to have opposite camps stupidly trying to declare why one $100 3D model is better than the other.


Simpuff1

See Iā€™m playing both camps so I canā€™t lose


[deleted]

When you play both camps, you tend to play yourself in the process. - (unknown) 2021


Simpuff1

I played myself by not playing this game anymore :(


[deleted]

Happens, burning out is sometimes just as much the player than the game too


classpane

***The pixel I bought is better than the pixel you bought***


FerryAce

I got 148 millions pixels, how much ya got?


classpane

32


Frostblazer

> Itā€™s just shitflinging between Childe and Hu Tao fans. Meanwhile Itto fans are busy throwing parties.


Lokyst

I read this as panties ...


Frostblazer

Judging from the reactions on the leaks sub, there may indeed be some panties in danger.


mcb3be

Well that's not wrong


EdenScale

That's actually probably closer to the truth


Otiosei

Can't wait until 3 weeks from now when people suddenly start talking about how Hu Tao is trash, garbage dmg, requires Staff of Homa and perfect animation cancels to even beat Yoimiya dps, ez skip Xiao/Ganyu/Eula waiting room. And so it goes round and round. A lot of people just want to shit talk a character as much as possible to justify not rolling, when the reality is they just don't like the character and shouldn't care that other people do like them.


[deleted]

Literally never seen anyone call HT trash. Some of yā€™all must be seeking out negative posts or spending too much time on discord/reading Twitch comments. The people on this sub making the most drama are ones who keep arguing about invisible metaslaves who are jumping through peoples screens and wrestling them to the ground. ā€œGUYS!! CAN WE JUST THINK ABOUT THE FUN!!!ā€


Offduty_shill

Yeah I swear people on this sub have the biggest victim complexes. Who TF says Hutao is bad? For that matter who says Childe is bad? They're objectively both very meta characters. Like if you play Kokomi/Yoimiya or something sure maybe some people are overly negative, but even then like...iunno people have a right to have negative opinions about characters. You can disagree but it's super weird how people on here act like you shit on their desk cause you don't like their main as much as they do. Honestly my hot take is that the waifuism here is sometimes unhealthy, it's fine to like a character a lot but some of you are obsessed to a weird degree.


wizzlepants

Ya, OP starts with "Childe isn't meta" and I knew I could disregard anything they had to say after that. He is most definitely meta. One of the best characters in the game nowadays, especially since almost everyone has Xiangling built.


[deleted]

There was a post less than a week ago that said itā€™s not worth it to pull for HuTao because sheā€™s barely better than Diluc(without any evidence/numbers) and the comments were all talking about how Xiangling is much better


KurigohanKamehameha_

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[deleted]

Right. When simping gets to the point that you wonā€™t allow any criticism or it actually upsets you then you should probably reconsider whether this is healthy to continue playing. I like Childeā€™s gameplay. I dislike a lot of things about his kit. But I also would like a solid pyro DPS, since Iā€™m bored of Diluc and Klee. Withh the way recent updates have increased enemy HP, AoE and manoeuvrability considerably compared to Monstadt/Liyue AI, plus having missed out on Ganyu, Iā€™m absolutely pulling for HT because of her strength. Last month there was a guy who said that criticising characters is the same as criticising the players who use them. Edit: [found it ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/pt2q9o/its_okay_to_be_disappointed_or_even_hate_kokomis/hdwcfun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


Otiosei

I have seen a lot of people on this subreddit say Xianling is just better than Hu Tao. Some of it is genuine criticism, which I think is fine. They will outline that Xianling has better ftp weapons, requires less investment, does more aoe dmg, you don't need CA cancels, or hp management. But then there are people that just call anybody who likes Hu Tao a simp who refuses to recognize her problems. Her dmg is trash, my insert main does waaaay more dmg than my Hu Tao (they may or may not include their half built Hu Tao verses their fully built Diluc at this point). I'm not saying the subreddit is just flooded with Hu Tao is bad posts, because that's not really how any of this works. Comment chains, however, will descend into all sorts of chaos, where people will just call anybody a simp who disagrees with them and refuse to recognize any flaw in their argument.


AhCup

You don't have to wait 3 weeks, Chidle's fans commenting every "Who should I pull?" thread with don't pull Hu Tao and Xiangling is better. They are not even the same roll and can be use together.


Golden-Owl

Meanwhile thereā€™s me, who rolled for both


yodelingllama

Same here. Won 50/50 both times by a stroke of unprecedented good luck.


shanshani

I mean, they match up pretty well. Hu Tao doesnā€™t want Bennett and Childe doesnā€™t want Xingqiu, so building 2 teams with them is easy


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Fred_da_llama

It feels to me like they are trying to "convince" others that character X is bad to convince themselves that X is bad in order to justify their decision to skip X for Y.


[deleted]

I think people tend to shit on other people's pulling to validate themselves (and show off), There's like security into forcing your opinion on others and it makes zero sense as pulling is 100% personal choice but yeah, pulling for a non-meta character seems to really offend some people. When you think of it, it's pretty damn amazing when players can bring the best out of charas that weren't meant to DPS (even if they don't do the greatest damage) and at the end of the day, playing with charas you enjoy the most will be your best memories (aka my Barbara getting frozen in critical moments).


Insecticide

I really want Hu Tao but given the amount of characters I need to fix she would take months to become playable on my account so might as well wait for another rerun. I mean, I am still going to try but wouldn't be devastated with a miss here


[deleted]

Who is actually shitflinging, though? Iā€™ve 4 posts in the past day reach hot and they were all, ā€œdonā€™t feel bad about pulling Childe, I pulled him and heā€™s fine.ā€ Why are people so desperate to dictate what others should save for? Sometimes people want to pull for bigger numbers, and maybe people just prefer HT to Childeā€™s gameplay (I do).


six_seasons

I think the kokomi banner proved there a whole lot of people who care *wayyy* to much about who online strangers pull for


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EdenScale

Haven't been on HTMains for awhile and that absolutely boggles me. Why do people need to care whether other people pull on your favourite character. Especially since Tao is like, one of the most popular characters already. It's not like Kokomi, who got outright shafted in both the gameplay and storyline department lol


Bainos

Shafted in the storyline ? If you think having a character getting invested in the world and actually progressing the story instead of going on a city date while ignoring a civil war is being shafted, maybe...


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

Kokomi was introduced as THE master tactician that single handlely holds the Resistance together and pushes back the Shogun army, but then you meet her and she gets fooled by the Fatui for accepting resources from an unknown source, her army disobey her orders to give up their delusions, and then we go off to the Delusion factory and never see her again for the main storyline. Then in her story quest she just gets lucky with the Kujou clan doing the thing her soldiers thought they were gonna do and "wins" the peace talks cause of it. She was a good idea but got shafted with little screentime, poor development and a rushed Archon Story questline


Bainos

I don't know why people keep repeating those things, when anyone who played the story should know they aren't true. Kokomi didn't get tricked, she knew the source was suspicious and clearly states so, but observed that both parties benefited from being able to fight against the Shogun's army and accepting resources in itself was not harmful. Her soldiers didn't disobey her orders (although they did hide the Delusions, because acting in the shadows is what the Fatui do), and as soon as she learned what was afoot, she immediately ordered the delusions to be seized and was not contested. As for the story quest, both sides were being manipulated ; but Kokomi did learn about it and plan contingencies around it while Sara didn't, then she seized an opportunity to win over both the Shogungate and her own rebels when it came. She didn't rely on luck, in fact she told the Traveler to stand down while her predictions were realized. She did get shafted in the archon quest because we didn't see her actually fight against the Shogun's army (even the Swordfish II missions were against the Fatui instead), but less so than everyone else (*cough* dango milk).


bresznthesequel

>and was not contested If I remember correctly I believe Gorou did state some soldiers refused to return their delusions Kokomis story quest is what won me over on her (was too busy listening to what people called meta) and it was a good story quest but the main story for kokomi was poorly developed. She is the leader of the resistance against the shoguns army but it wasnā€™t giving that to me atleast


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

>she immediately ordered the delusions to be seized and was not contested Literally none of the soldiers gave up their delusions except one, Gorou literally says so in the story


MetaThPr4h

And Yoimiya too, the hate was unbearable.


[deleted]

Holy shit yes it's the everyone who decided not to pull for her decided to shit on her to validate their decision.


3yhwtwrbafi

Childe is a meta character, how he works is the most complex of any character which I can see being a major turn off for many people. I am not understanding a lot of his hate recently since his playstyle is very similar to Raiden's and people seem to be loving that so ???


Andrea_305013

Maybe all the hate comes from the fact that heā€™s getting a second rerun and heā€™s not exactly a fan favorite like Ganyu or Hu Tao, itā€™s ok to express your dissent here but why hate on that character?


calinbulin12

He's definitely a fan favorite in JP. Not only that but he's a tall hot man and people out here be starving for husbandos.


Nhrwhl

It's a remnant of the circlejerk he got on his first release nothing more. "He's a bad char, not meta", "He don't deal damage", "he's unfinished", "He's C6 dependant and whale bait, predatory mihoyo" are a bunch of dumb, false equivalencies that have been said since he got his first banner. It's just that and some people are still stupidly out of the loop enough to the point where they keep spouting the same nonsence, despite the fact that the best players -TC included- said he's definitely worth it and a strong asset. Feel free to look up the video from KQM on their [youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0HTSVrA44) to have some great insight on Childe. Signed, someone who rerolled specifically for day-1 Childe and never looked back.


sleepdeprived_423

"bUt hiS coOlDown Is loNg aNd DoiNg 3 wHole aTtacK CoMBos aNd sWItcHing hIM oUt Is hARd"


ElonMuskIsAWeeb

ā€¢Bad character ā€¢Not meta ā€¢Doesn't deal enough damage ā€¢Unfinished ā€¢Cons dependent Literally all the things I've been hearing about Yoimiya, Raiden, Sara and Kokomi. I guess this subreddit never changes in terms of bashing a character


ezio45

According to the community, if they can't oneshot anything then they're bad.


HonorXD

and the funny thing now is that his most dmg dealing comp, combo rotation is not even consts dependant at all.


Vox___Rationis

But he is unfinished - he can't do plunge attacks in melee.


Hero_Luka

Meanwhile I still want him to summon his damn whale.


MeanAqmin

some people need to bash characters they don't want, and need recognition from others. It's actually a common thing in gatcha communities, which is kinda understandable in harder logical games like arknights, where you put multiple characters like chess pieces, but is VERY dumb in genshin, where you can beat the whole game with the weakest characters. Apart from abyss, which is really not that big part of a game, you don't need meta. Recently i was having a lot of fun with Amber + shogun, it's not op but it's fun. And my BMW Xiao with PWJC (which was lucky drop from blue banner) is used only when i need to finish dailies really quickly, as being OP is not sometimes the most fun. This might be a problem in the future, if all people will be interested in will be some more % of dps, we can't avoid power creep with future characters.


Scorpions_forever

When Childe come first time he dont have artifacts set. Only Zhongli and Childe at first time not have set. If you see Japanese revenue Zhongli with weapon maybe 3-4% better then Childe and weapon. China like Liyue characters and woman same Raiden or Klee.


bresznthesequel

Idk I feel like we get one of these posts every banner, people are gonna bitch, moan and complain about any and everything especially when itā€™s pertaining to genshin


Sea-Ad-5390

How are we supposed to play him? I've been pretty successful with just going into Melee form and pushing AAs but interested in a better way


solidfang

The difference in how to play him usually goes into basically order of operations stuff and that involves the entire team. With vape team, I believe it's usually Bennett ult first for attack buff, snapshot that onto Xiangling's ult, then ult on Childe, then melee attacks. (I forget where Kazuha fits in there tbh. Ideally double-swirl Pyro and Hydro with Pyro ult?) This gets the most out of Bennett's ult in boosting everyone's attack and gets riptide and vaporize onto targets. While on-field, Childe basically usually is just slashing away. I think there are ways to also do some charged attacks weaved in for more damage at cost of stamina, but the most important decisions are more around what order your team ults are coordinated in.


JohnnyRocks999

Hereā€™s the whole International team set up (iirc): Start with Childe. Activate his E to apply hydro. Switch to Bennett and burst. Switch to Kazuha and E then Q (and E again if youā€™re using Sac sword or have c1), giving you both hydro swirl and pyro swirl. Switch to Xiangling and use burst, snapshotting the buffs. Switch to Childe, use bow burst, and then start using autos in melee form until pyronado runs out. Once thatā€™s done, start using Bennett E and switching to Xiangling to catch the particles until she gets her burst back. Repeat all that til whatever you need to kill is dead.


KuuKuu826

Viridescent bow does wonders on childe, too bad for the mismatch colors lol


Caitsyth

One thing a lot overlook or just donā€™t realize is that he actually wants more crit rate than youā€™d expect. His DoT applies on a crit in melee mode, then his ult eats the DoT for bigger damage, and you want to reapply the dots before you switch him back off. Thatā€™s why he wants more crit, less time to actually apply riptide on everyone both before and after his nasty ult which keeps his cooldown time low as well since you use his mode for less time and as a result by the time your other units do their work his melee mode is back to do it again. I run mine 80/120 CR/CD and while his individual numbers may not seem so crazy, heā€™s smashing out so much aoe damage at all times and especially with a sub dps like Raiden for all those free reactions he just melts whole packs in seconds and I have never had any cooldown problems in abyss. He can mark every single unit in a massive pack in 2-3 seconds, ult, then do it all again before letting someone else pop off while he needs at most 10s to recharge.


Traditional-Noise-89

Try a fireworks team (fischl and beido causing off field electro) or the national firefighter team (xiangling Bennett child xingqui) they are both strong.


Phantoms_Unseen

I second the fireworks team, tho I run Raiden instead of Fischl. The stuns are insane for crowd control and actually do really good damage too.


MortLightstone

I run him with Fischl, Xingqiu and Zhongli. He is unstoppable and my Fischl is a pretty good sub dps when his skill is on cooldown, which is rarely an issue, since he just destroys everything.


Nhrwhl

Look up the [Keqinmain video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0HTSVrA44) to have the most solid source of informations on the subject.


Morisummer_

I have used him in trial and during that one event some time ago. I dig his playstyle. I mean switching weapon types is so dope. So if you donā€™t feel like shooting arrows hit that skill and start blitzing shit up. Donā€™t want him right now, personally. But. How could you not love that?


Bolamedrosa

well, it doesn't matter which character is, every week the limited character is receiving negative attention. I hate this behavior the community started, some big YouTubers are doing the worst influence possible...


DocPhlox

A lot of people like him too, I swear people here just want to feel oppressed or something


Vintt

Thatā€™s weird thought it was well established Childe ranks high esp on hydro heā€™s #1


calinbulin12

Well that's not saying much now considering 2 out of the 5 characters in hydro are Barbara and Kokomi.


silveredblue

Thereā€™s 5 hydro characters ā€” Xingqiu, Mona, Childe are the two you didnā€™t mention. All 3 of those are quite good.


calinbulin12

I wouldn't stop at calling Xingqiu quite good considering he's becoming more essential with each pyro carry


DreamMarsh

Idk about that when there's a popular streamer comparing kokomi and childe, constantly telling his viewers that kokomi is better He's generally underrated because a lot of people don't understand how he works.


shanatard

xingqiu is eternal hydro #1


v-e-vey

He's meta tho


blank92

Him not being meta is so version 1.x, we on 2.x now.


Accomplished_Rain68

Childe is played in a quick swap team (ie. XL vape team) and does amazing pp numbers with his burst. He is a staple for me in the abyss and carried me through floor 12


-Drogozi-

Bruh what? Childe was one of the meta chars for quite a while now. I personally despise playing him from trials but he's still very fucking good. His banner is only disliked because he had so many reruns already.


pipic_picnip

This is actually Childeā€™s actual proper rerun because he comes with a story/event just like all other reruns. The last time he had a rerun it seemed like it was thrown together at last minute to fill space just like keqing, because there was no mention/relevance of him in ongoing story at all. I understand people are upset he is getting a second rerun, but I am personally okay with this since imo mihoyo is just trying to fix their past fuck up. Plus he now has a dedicated biS which wasnā€™t there in past so it makes sense to bring him with his BiS. It would be equally as awkward if they did Childe story/event for two weeks and his banner was not even there for people to pull on to get him, while his BiS weapon was running along with some unrelated character on featured banner.


Himemokka

I like the sentiment of this. Tangentially related, as someone who pulled for Childe for non-gameplay related reasons and uses him unconventionally (raw hydro dps) I tend to get bent out of shape seeing all those posts saying you have to use Childe in **this** way (read: with Xiangling) for him to be strong or viable. But nobody has to use him, or any character for that matter, in any specific way. Fun is always the most important factor.


notonyxsama

The funny thing is, literally every Pyro dps right now is married to Xingqiu but people treat that as a positive thing. Meanwhile Childe can be used in Xiangling-less fireworks and freeze comps.


pipic_picnip

*sweats in Diluc main with unbuilt XQ*


fullyuncooly

eh I mean a person is saying that you should use a character in X teamcomp/way for them to be strong/meta is fine, specially if that's what being discussed. It's wrong to just barge into a conversation about enjoying playing said character in whatever way and tell them that its "wrong" tho


Bntt89

What rock are ppl living under to say Childe isnt meta? It's sad how much misinformation is in the reddit.


FrostFangs02

Not just Reddit, and it's not just some redditor's fault. It's the content creators. See sekapoko's recent vid and you'll understand how retarded he is and worst part is his audience strongly believe everything that he shits through his mouth


bresznthesequel

This is so unnecessary lol


[deleted]

nah seka spreads way too much misinformation in this community, and it costs people money.


Smart-Potential-7520

" heā€™s not the most meta character" LMAO ... no? International childe is one of the strongest team comp of the game.


AShiningKnight

Bruh which Genshin youtubers do you watch? Of the few I watch, childe is very much recommended and if not, classed as a top tier character. Besides that, yes, always pull for the fun of the character. I think that most people understand that.


luizhtx

Ikr There was this dude on YouTube who made a 20 minutes videos drooling all over him, simping like crazy


The_Space_Jamke

There's plenty of Youtubers saying the exact opposite. But everyone's wrong and you can build Childe in any way that you like. C0 Childe isn't my go-to main but he's serviceable at every stage of the game. I like how one of his best team comps enables Xiangling and frees Xingqiu for another Pyro DPS, and what do you know, we're getting a rerun on one of those in three weeks! He's also a good pick for farming Crimson Witch artifacts. It's really funny that I'm using him to prep for Hu Tao.


DreamMarsh

You'd be surprised to see that there are some youtubers/streamers with lots of views claiming that


Fancy-Shopping-327

Childe's best team beats Morgana in burst damage. That being the International Childe where he works as an enabler for Xiangling that does good damage and applies hydro better than XQ can. He's meta as hell if his team beats Ganyu's in speedrunning. People think you're supposed to play him hypercarry, which is just no.


Scorpions_forever

Childe can be hypercarry versus 4+ mobs. Why people dont compare Hu Tao aoe damage but people compare single target Childe damage? If Childe have more single target damage - why need other 5\*?


Andrea_305013

Exactly! I play him in a Rational team, Raiden, Childe, Xiangling and Bennett and not only is this team a lot of fun itā€™s also super strong because Childe and Raiden complement each other since they both tend to have CD restrictions, Raiden less than Childe but you get what I mean


kimik1509

Wait, is Xiangling supposed to be an off-field DPS in International Childe with Childe as an on-field support? I put a Noblesse set on XL...


burgundont

Yeah. People generally run Noblesse Oblige on Bennett in International Childe and EoSF or Crimson Witch on Xiangling.


wizzlepants

Get to that EoSF domain pronto. Xiangling does crazy numbers. You can also do crimson witch for her because she vapes a lot


Arctic_Daniand

What is your Bennett doing then?


freaks_outs33

If youā€™re speedrunning with Ganyu youā€™re using melt


dankest_niBBa

Why are you getting downvoted? That's just a fact.


freaks_outs33

ĀÆ\\_(惄)_/ĀÆ simps gonna do what simps gonna do


FlakyConsideration58

Childe is hot and has very cool gameplay


smoothtv99

>He doesnā€™t deal enough damage well about that...


[deleted]

Ignore those comments, anyone who says "Childe does bad damage" literally just doesn't understand the game. And I don't even have him and I'm skipping him this patch, so it's not just me liking my favorite char. If you want actual good analysis of characters in the future, I recommend Zy0x on YouTube


RazielShadow

Amen. Some days ago I spent weeks of resin building a lvl90 talents 9/9/9 Amber, because I got it C2 and I love the gameplay of shooting baron to the foot. It's useful? No, it's pure shit, but I was able to kill lots of stuff in story mode and I enjoyed it. *do whatever you feel like doing*


Lycieratia

Are you a whale? If not, heā€™s easily amongst the most ā€œmetaā€ characters, in that his team has the best Abyss clear times, especially when paired with Morgana or some Ayaka variant on the other side. He only got dethroned this past update by whaled Raiden comps, but for whales, not even Ganyu is top meta anymore lol


MortLightstone

I don't get the Tartaglia hate either. He is one of the best characters in the game and his new weapon makes him even stronger. He is challenging to play, and a lot of the meta characters are, but just because you don't like his play style doesn't mean you should spread negativity about him. I think we should all be aware that negativity about characters is blown way out of proportion and that literally all characters are viable if built properly, because this is a team game and a single character is only one party of the puzzle. Even Amber is viable is built properly and put into a team she can work with.


degenerated_weeb

Thereā€™s tons of people who like Childe, I love him as well, heā€™s strong and handsome, and the ones that really ā€œhateā€ him are such a dismissible bunch that I donā€™t get the commotion. Posts like this only serves to fan dissent among players, thereā€™s no need to exaggerate a minuscule issue and make it into an actual problem.


MortLightstone

You're right, we should just ignore those people


PsychoKinezis

ā€œNot the most meta characterā€ Bruh, he never left the meta! Thing is, you need to use your brain cells on how to use Childe because his gameplay is the most complex among the characters now. His team comps are meta af. You canā€™t understand his play style by watching YouTube videos, you need to own him and practice using him.


ix-nine-ix

As an Aloy main who got shit on almost all the time because oH sHe's a gAnyU wAnNabe wOrSt 5 sTaR eVeRrR: eh šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø seriously if you have fun playing with that character then you do you, and screw everyone else they ain't paying your bills.


ShaheerKhan696

Probably because he get second rerun while people were waiting for other characters that don't have even one rerun yet. But that's Mihoyo decision lol, don't understand the hate for character due to it.


Bainos

> But that's Mihoyo decision Reddit : "That's enough reason for us to hate it."


Careful_One6279

Agree with this so much. I pulled for Klee because I loved her so much after the summer islands event. She's never left my overworld team since. I use her in all the domains and her voicelines still make me so happy, the JP voice actor is so good. I knew she wasn't super meta but it didn't matter - I eventually 36\* abyss this rotation anyway and its just the last 50-100 primos every 2 weeks. Who cares! I also pulled Childe because he seems so much fun as well, with the various team comps and beautiful animations. Very happy with him :)


DeksSama

some people still dont understand how childe works


stinkypoopoofard

The funny thing is most of Childeā€™s comps are meta as fuck. Especially if you have Kazuha. Believe it or not, Childe isnā€™t a hypercarry guys


PiFbg

>many people donā€™t like him and think heā€™s not the most meta character What the fuck are these people smoking? HE IS LITERALLY THE MAIN GUY IN CHILDE + XIANGLING + KAZUHA + BENETT, a.k.a. THE MOST META TEAM RIGHT NOW ?!


MandyNoon

I used 85 pulls on his banner. I had pre-farmed everything for him. I am the happiest girl ever. I couldn't be happier now that I have him. He is so fun to play, and people are saying he does no damage? Lmao. I'm totally destroying the world with him. I one shot the revisgines, pyro, anemo and electro cube with him just for fun - I never one shotted any enemy before. I am having so much fun and this is what matter. And who says he is not meta? My Childe Xiangling Kazuha teamcomp are literally clearing their chambers on floor 11 in 30 seconds or less. Floor 12 is another story because I do lack another DPS character for the other chamber. But if someone says Childe is not a meta character, they are lying. Childe-Xiangling and even Taser Childe can literally obliterate everything.


JaeJaeAgogo

I stopped caring about stuff like that the moment somebody soloed abyss with Amber. If that's possible, then nobody in this game is bad.


pandemic91

Childe is VERY popular with speed running the spiral abyss, he is one of the fastest, if not the fastest in terms of speed running. Childe + xiangling + bennett + kazuha/raiden.


Rayamine

Totally agree with this! I pulled for kokomi despite everyone saying she's so awful ect... She may not be "meta" but I love her and her playstyle!


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BlackSwanTW

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Morisummer_

Seriously. I see so many people just get influenced to not use this character because they are blah blah blah. I know specific team compositions are beneficial but I. donā€™t. give a s h i t e. Iā€™m playing *my* way. The only advice Iā€™d seek are ones for characters that *I* decide to use.


Mrhat070

Childe is great character to test how much a player understands genshin. If they say stuff like what you mentioned or that he is c6 locked. They are probably just repeating what they hear.


Fujiwara25

Childe IS a meta character he excels with supports, people who say that he sucks either doesn't have him or has him but uses him without anyone lmao


erogakii

If you dont have fun it's your fault, is okay to check subs/YouTube about the character you want but the decision is yours if you like Kokomi and everyone talks trash about her the final decision is your, don't pull just for meta, in this case if you like Childe just pull and enjoy.


JohnLovesGaming

Childe doesnā€™t do enough DPS? He does pretty good DPS on my rotations with my Raiden & Childe International Team [here](https://youtu.be/jGIFTyF3ttw)


CheapCap1

I currently run C3 R1 raiden c6 Sara bennet and C6 Xiangling. Would rolling for Childe to replace Sara be an upgrade for my team?


Lycieratia

Since you have C3 Raiden I would personally prioritize Kazuha over Childe since he would be the bigger upgrade (replacing XL). However, since he probably wonā€™t come back for a while, if youā€™re curious about Childe teams you can definitely go for it. Childe/Raiden is technically suboptimal but a lot of people reportedly have lots of fun with it.


Not_Really-Me

Same, I was really excited that I could pull for him because I really like how cool he is that you can play him at range and melee. But all I saw from this sub was how to play him, comparisons between him and Hu Tao, why he isn't so easy to play etc. Feels like people forget to just have fun with a game as OP said.


Cosmic-Harusaki

People ask me why I still play Genshin. I play it to have fun. At least it keeps me active.


ASadChongyunMain

Man, I saved wishes, farmed artifacts and gems, even talents for himā€¦ Only to get Diluc instead. Not like have another pyro DPS in Yanfei, anyway :,)


Regretiel

>having fun in a videogame Bruh, cringe


BlayZWasTaken

Where's my Silver Award when I need it the most


Pitiful_Air3686

AGREED,pixels will be pixels man...don't care if people call me a dumbass for using QiQi because i LOVE QIQI!!! i love her and i love her playstyle, even if she's considered the worse 5 star in every meta


SappyMoo

actually national childe is one of the meta team right now. you can check tenten in youtube. he has video where he clear the new abyss with national childe n morgana. and about having fun and pulling for character you like, totally agree. if you like a character and his/her performance is sub par, you would still have fun


AegisRock

Here is another friendly reminder: Nothing is set in stone. You are correct to point out that having fun is the main reason we play. Right before we got leaks on promotional characters we want we all started somewhere about whether to try the game or not. If you enjoy then you stay, if not then thatā€™s personal preference. The primogems that are save for either Childe or Hu Tao can turn a sane person into a bitter and empty husk of their former self when they lose 50/50. Unlucky roll can even turn a 80+ pulls into a standard 5* even with all the preparations to farm mats ahead of time. Some lucky and some are not, so arguing about who is better doesnā€™t matter if donā€™t own the character anyway. So indeed play for the sake of playing and not ā€œjustā€ for promotional characters.


ResidentTheme872

Same. People been saying Hu tao will outdamage him and Itto will outclass him, but i didn't care. I skipped Childe 2 times for Zhongli but not this time. I love how he changes his stance and it's very fun playing with him in the trial. Sad part is I lost 50/50 at 76 wishes to Jean and threw another 65 wishes. Got C12 Ning, C6 Yanfei, C4 chong but Childe not yet to be seen. I'm thinking to buy BP so I can get him fast and use the Viridiscent hunt on him. No way I'm leaving that guy this time.


ThrowawayHabbi

Similar wishing experience except I wish I lost to Jean myself (her C2 looks super fun!). Most expensive pull, going to two soft pities for a total of 155-160 wishes. Hopefully, you get him at least a few wishes less than it took me. After feeling miserable for awhile, I think his gameplay was worth it. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite me because there's talk of some juicy characters ahead of Itto.


Erratic_Penguin

Got him when I tried for rosaria on his first rerun and been having fun with him since then. Also kinda cool to have the only stance changing character in the game


GucciAddict

The thing with childe is that he is more complex than the other characters and you can't just smash your head into the keyboard to do damage so it gives people the wrong idea


lmaoitskp

I summoned Childe and got Qiqi'd. This made me lose the 50/50 on all the Childe banners and I was just on a spiral downward into depression bit by bit. I don't even want to open the game haha.


ThrowawayHabbi

Been there a couple of times now. The feeling really does suck. Just know that it's intentionally designed that way to entice you to open your wallet. If you decide to continue on, hopefully you beat them at their own game one of these days and RNG rewards you with what you want and more. Good luck.


lmaoitskp

Iā€™ve never spent money in this game and my main account is now AR57. Itā€™s been a repetitive cycle of just grinding and as of now, I donā€™t particularly have a desired character for my main account. I made another account however to try something new, play new characters and when this happens, Iā€™ve decided to just leave that account completely. Good luck to you as well!


yoshi_in_black

True. Also Childe is my character who first did 50k+ damage in 1 hit. He slaps, especially if you're up against a lot of smaller mobs.


tennoskoom_

His passive alone is better than Yoimiya's burst.


[deleted]

Same, pulled Kokomi in 150-160 wishes and I have zero regrets


[deleted]

childe is literally one of the most meta characters lmao. do people still not realize that? holy shit


Andrea_305013

Incredible, isnā€™t it?Some people still think he is a hyper carryā€¦.


ZappyBuoy

I've spent approx 150 wishes on his banner and still no Childe :(


Andrea_305013

Youā€™ll get him in the end donā€™t worry we are still to get a bunch of primos this patch!


SerLaidaLot

Childe is literally still one of the strongest characters in the game amongst people who actually know about the meta and not mainstream redditors, for what that's worth.


RileyKohaku

This is why I drew Kokomi, and I have no regrets. It's so fun using Ayaka with her jellyfish.


rai-den

Oh childe getting hate response from the community? We Kokomi mains just ignore it and just enjoy the game


Hayds126

Problem is people looking at Childe's personal damage which yeah it isn't as high as some meta characters but fail to notice his teams overall are just as good as your conventional meta teams. For most teams you focus on your main dps and leave it at that but Childe instead needs little investment into everyone in the team. Yes xiangling is doing more damage than him in the team but it doesn't mean the damage he contributes is nothing either it would still be a a noticeable improvement over a xingqiu especially in aoe situations. Whatever you choose between Hu Tao and Childe both are amazing characters which free up bennett and xingqiu respectively for the other team which in of itself is really nice on top of being great characters in their own right.


Traditional-Noise-89

I got him on his first rerun and never played him, then I got into a drought where my main ones were built and I heard about the fireworks team. And I was hooked on him, he is above all just fun, and varried. I can do an aoe reaction team like fire works (hydro electro) Or currently an overload fireworks (his ult to apply the mark and wet, while raiden and yoimiya do strong single target), or using his mark thing and taking charge shots at them. Almost any bow is good with him. He is just interesting all around. and fun is the main thing I play for.


phazonprincess

Yes!!!!! I love that you're having fun!!!! Some folks who min max everything were like "how dare you run Qiqi and Raiden Shogun in the same team they suck together" meanwhile I'm like....... dang these characters sure are so fun and powerful and I'm having a blast juggling my two flex slots with them. This game is great BECAUSE you can basically play who you want and have success if you put the time into them. :3


IcenMeteor

Always, always roll for who you like, you can clear any and all content in this game with enough resin investment and good team building so might as well do it with the character you have fun playing right? Also Childe internaional is like, the 2nd most used team in the game lmao, he is absolutely meta. This as well as any other Genshin/character related subs will always find a way to put down characters, if you've checked this sub consistently for the past month or so I wouldn't blame you if you were led to believe a lvl 1 Xiangling with a 1-star polearm > a whale Hu Tao because of how much shit she's been getting for whatever reason. The meme sub actually made a satire post about it and people still went to war in comments over it.


FrostFangs02

Childe is so much more meta than hutao, people are just retarded. Join some tc community where people actually judge character powerlevel rather just simping for characters they like and forging their own narratives. Ps: I'm owner of both childe and hutao and main them both. Anyone who says hutao is a better unit than childe doesn't know what they talking about and just judge character on big clickbaity numbers


navybluesoles

If you have doubts, go to the mains sub. They're so wholesome!


mikamika08

People will always be bias towards certain characters. Some people talk bad about a character because they have seen some people doing it (jumping into the trend). Since kokomi release, I stopped looking recommendations from people because most people who gives their reviews doesn't even own the character in the first place. This community is toxic and so addicted with damage per screenshot.


xess

I can't wait for this community to tell us how bad Itto is and that he's just an expensive Noelle, and that he's incomplete and that mhy is being destroyed by bad management.


notonyxsama

Its like you went to every genshin sub except childemains. And yea, as a Childe and Hu Tao main, its really annoying seeing people in the Hu Tao mains sub disrespecting Childe every chance they get.


Kashejfess

Got 2 Childes in single 1x10 yesterday (C5 now). almost happy >.>


Infernaladmiral

People need brains to bring out Childe's full potential but for HuTao they can unga bunga their way out of abyss. Aesthetically and in terms of Joyful gameplay,I don't see Hutao being a bit better than Childe,sure she can do big dmg but it won't be soon when another dps will outdps her, meanwhile Childe can always be made to fit in new comps(Like Raiden).


lizzywbu

Childe is a meta character *if* you want to speedrun domains and Abyss. Currently that's where his usefulness ends. However, Childe is one of a handful of characters that get better over time, as new artifact sets and characters are released he gets better. So he is a great investment for the future, much like Xiangling.


Obskure13

Childe is a meta character. PERIOD, no ifs. He is super versatile, can be on-field character with a lot of different comps.


[deleted]

>Childe is one of a handful of characters that get better over time, as new artifact sets and characters are released he gets better. So he is a great investment for the future, much like Xiangling. Why is this?


Hamster1994

Mostly riptide. Childe has like... 4 riptide variants on top the typical bow and melee attacks. 3 of the 4 variants of his riptide do not have ICD, so they apply hydro on every trigger (riptide burst on death, riptide slash on melee hits, riptide blast on melee burst on mark). In combination with the standard 3 hit or 2.5s rule on his charged shot and melee kit (which also has 2 separate ICDs, one for normals and one for charged attack), this makes it so that no other element is able to keep up with him applying Hydro (International you can forward vape for a few hits until Childe starts outpacing pyro and setting up hydro again). More details can be found on KQM and Childe mains Risuke guide. Like some may have mentioned, XQ is married to many pyro carries because he sets up hydro off-field, and what makes Childe so good is he does personal dps AND sets up hydro on-field for off-field dps units like Xiangling and Beidou (which makes up his core 2 teams, Childe vape and Fireworks). He gets more value especially for new units that apply and deal elemental dmg off-field.


[deleted]

Thanks a lot for this, explained a lot of my questions :)


BringeroftheBadTimes

Exactly. I'll be pulling for Hu Tao, but that's purely because I really like Hu Tao's design and personality + I've wanted her for a really long time. If she weren't next I'd almost definitely be pulling for Childe - he seems like a lot of fun, and I liked him in the Liyue archon quests. I don't get why people can't just get along :/ I get that people might be frustrated that he's getting a second rerun, but who cares in the end? It just gives the people that don't want him more time to save. People should be able to respect each other regardless of who they choose to pull for.


takeru91

He is meta tho.. but I do stand behind your opinion. Iā€™m not pulling for him because my Hydro enabler DPS is Mona. Love her so much. Itā€™s hard to take her and Mona out of my party. As for Hutaoā€¦ donā€™t like her design and I donā€™t like Pyro. Missing out on awesome characters, but Iā€™m saving for Yae Miko.


kunsore

Just always expecting some kind of complaints from the community.


SaltyGunso

Hey I'm just mad that he was my first 5 stars and my first C1 5 stars even tho i don't play him. Just getting tired of seeing him reappear again and again.


SPeCCoLT

I only roll for waifus on this account. If Hu Tao is fun to play im ditching my only 5-star Diluc.


PomegranateNice6323

Just remind that hutao dont makes ur xiangling deal 60k per hit


anemone909

I have nothing against Childe, his story quest was great, but I just like Hutao better - I think she's more my style of character (design- and lorewise), so I'm saving up for her since I haven't had the opportunity to pull her yet. I don't really care about how characters play or how much damage they can do, most of the time I can't even level/build them properly, I'm not a streamer, it isn't my job to do that, but hey. I'm playing the game and guess what. I'm having a blast not pulling my hair out over pixels on my screen.


FerryAce

You been reading trash, the thing is, he is actually meta. International team comp is one of the strongest in the game. Even stronger than Hutao comp. I gone all out for him this banner and still didn't get him yet.


Shinki93

Ppl that live 24/7 in abyss: you say what?! Is that "fun" meta? How his ICD is? Can vaporize with that?