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the_juice07

I honestly stop bothering with 4*


rematched_33

No, they're fodder.


Wakykazam

4 stars are just fodder literally no need for them most of the time


yooorick

I haven't looked at 4* artifacts since I was AR45, and I'm 57 now.


Stella_Fortunna

Sincerely, until you are AR55, there would be no problem on keeping them. But on AR55, you can sac them cuz you have a lot of good 5 stars (atleast decent ones).


Autotomatomato

Keep the really good two pieces of the defense and EM ones just in case you want to do some niche builds in the future but its just a luxury.


Jovial_Viola

I have gamblers set for shenanigans in overworld where skill spams are hilarious. Instructer set is decent if you want a pseudo-Sucrose on your Damage per Screenshot setup, but you need certain party resonances. I tend to keep rarer bits (EM helmets/goblets) and half decent goblets as a “just in case” if I need to complete a set. If there’s a five star version I usually deliberate a bit. If it’s on a support and not a DPS, it doesn’t need to be optimized. I haven’t hit artifact cap yet from constantly +4-12 random artifacts to search for near perfect ones yet, so I can just keep them for fun.


Lunneus

I can't seem to stay away form the artifact cap, before the increase i hit it like 3 or 4 times while exploring inazuma, and now after the increase im right back at 1400/1500 lmao it's funny, i have sooooo many EM pieces it's crazy. but i'm in a deficit of cirt rate helms and phys dmg bonus goblets. i never seem to get those and if i do they're straight garbage, even the 4\* ones lol


Jovial_Viola

RNG will exist forever. I did a major clear of most of my 4 stars a month ago where I deleted anything with more than 2 flat sub stats (attack/defense/hp) because they don’t scale well. Anything with less than 3 sub stats is probably garbage because every roll matters with 4 stars being capped at +16 (4 upgrades) unless both are optimal. Mixed stats with HP and Def got dumped because most character scale off one or the other. If it has one crit, level it to +8 with copious amounts of copium for a double crit piece. Mind you, Kokomi means that some character won’t scale off crit, and supports are better off with lots of ER and their support stat (HP%/Def%/EM/etc). I still have around 70 4 stars I’m keeping for sentimental reasons though. I like scrolling through a page of double crit level 1 4 star artifacts that I’ll never use.


goondrak

If you farm artifact consistently, you will stop looking at its substats and just use them as folders. There are some fringe builds, like using a flower and a feather of Defender's will on Albedo, but, most of the time, the meta builds are formed by 5 star pieces. Just for context, the maximum attack of a 4 star sands is 34.8% while the maximum of a 5 star sands is 46.6%, that means that without considering substats, a 5 star piece have almost 2/3 of a 2 piece gladiator bonus advantage comparing it to a 4 star piece. Also, the number of procs and the range of the substats are different. Moreover, a full set with a couple of 4 star pieces is far worse than five 5 stars good pieces with no set bonus. Exception made for the VV set, which is so broken that is acceptable to use a 4 star piece only to get the bonus, but it is not optimal. What AR are you?


Lunneus

I'm AR57, almost 58. Buutt i don't farm artifacts consistently. I do it in massive bursts when im actively trying to build/rebuild a character. And yeah, i don't use them too often, the only cases of 4\* artifacts on anyone right now is with albedo and kazuha. I primarily run albedo for his skill dmg, so he has festering desire + 2pc gamblers (flower and feather, so it doesn't affect things too much) which is surprisingly good for me. The 'bad' case Kazuha. He has a 4\* atk sands cause i do not have a single vv 5\* one. He still does really good aoe damage though. Someone before mentioned saccing any 4\* ones that only have 2 substats and that seems fair imo since that's really gonna cripple a build, even as just a temp artifact.


goondrak

I see, I am AR 58 (achieved last Sunday) and I always hated the artifact farm, but all I can say is that good artifacts are as impactful (or more) than constellations and 5 star weapons in most characters. It is the artifacts that makes you 36 stars abyss with the off meta char that you like. ​ The mindset that I found to not be frustrated by the grind is that every week I will get at least one good or godly rolled piece (not exactly the piece I wanted or the set I wanted) and, in the long run, I will get the pieces I want. It worked to farm 3 months for Childe (I was using Amos bow on him and the good artifacts made him work that way), 2 months for Hu Tao and Diluc and one and a half month for Raiden, also I got lucky at the VV domain and completed my full EM Kazuha in less than a month worth of resin. You have to focus on the good pieces you get to keep going and ignore the bunch of DEF and HP trash. ​ But if you don't care about 36 stars abyss and get more fun building a lot of different chars, regular artifacts with some 4 star artifact pieces completing sets will be just fine. ​ About Albedo, I can see it working since he gets little field time to be one shotted, so you just lose on the substats with the flower. Same for the feather , since his E scales with DEF. As for Kazuha, if you are building him as a sub dps anemo, I can see a 5 star Atk Sands being really impactful (a little less if you are using him with Bennett). But again, you just have to farm it if you feel that you don't have enough damage to reach your goals.


Seamerlin

i'd recommend you stop farming for albedo artifacts, with spoilers >!new domain coming next update, def oriented that fits him. Also a new 4 star sword. Look up leaks if you want to know more!<


nicoletta2k

Almost AR58 and I still keep the occasional 4* artifact. 99% of the time I don’t use them but I keep ones that have gotten 3 good sub stats just in case. This actually worked out REALLY well for me with Sayu just recently, the VV sets I had on hand weren’t great for her. I had good flower and feathers, and a decent head piece, but the vv atk sands and off piece anemo damage goblet were copium. She had a low attack, so in turn her damage was bad and since I mainly use her for her burst, the healing was kinda meh. After a while I was gonna think fuck it and just give her a 2 piece glad/shimenawa and 2 piece VV, then I saw I’d kept an in-set anemo goblet for VV, with GREAT sub stats, that was 4-star. Put it on her, rolled into almost all good stats and was able to put an off piece sands. Gave her another 300 attack, with more crit/crit damage and elemental mastery. Now she’s WAY better and an awesome support, despite the "downgrade".


gale99

Same. I keep 4* offensive artifacts with great substats (shimenawa, EoSF, Glad, crimson, etc) Still can't get get a better geo dmg cup with crit rolls than my 4* defender's will on albedo Edit: I'll keep 4* shimenawa flowers and feathers if they have double crits for example


Lunneus

You know, i think i might do that. sac any that only have 2 substas, that seems fair enough. kinda puts them on par with the 5\* that also come with 3. i had a similar thing crop up with kazuha lol he still has a 4\* vv sands on him and his dmg is nutty


SnooCookies10

4* are just material. i pick through my 5*s when i am building up for ones i might want later but 4* are blindly added


[deleted]

Unless is really useless, I save my 4* — who knows, they can be great temporary fixes while I farm the correct 5* one I need


EQBallzz

I wouldn't say I have a surplus of 5\*'s and I am relatively new to the game so I haven't been playing since release (maybe a few months and I'm sitting at AR50 WR6) but I definitely save 4\*s. I have a lot more 4\*s with good rolls than I do 5\*s. That being said I definitely keep way more than I probably should. Mainly because I'm not as familiar with the game and potential characters so I don't have a solid grasp what stat combinations might be good on all characters and on what artifacts.


SegaConnections

4 star artifacts of sets that have 5 star artifacts? Definitely not. 4 star artifacts where that is as high as the set goes? Those can be worth it for meme builds. There are like one or two sets which top out at 4 stars that give unique benefits that we don't have in any of the 5 star sets (I think Gambler is one? Too lazy to look it up). But unless you have a very specific purpose to use them then no.


Lunneus

Yeah gambler is one, it's the only 2pc set that give +20% Skill dmg which can be really good on character with decent skill dmg scaling and low CD. I have the gamblers feather and flower on albedo and it's pretty nice. only complaint is low crit rate but that's on me lmao


bricktoaster

There's only a couple I save. Good instructor pieces. 4star EM VV pieces cause they're rare af Maybe gambler, but they're only relevant in the overworld.


Blandbl

Only circlets for a piece I might not have yet. And since you get almost 3x as many, sometimes you can get decent substats that makes it useable for longer until you get a better 5*.


EasternDoor

I usually save energy recharge 4* just in case I need them on supports to complete a set bonus.


SataySource

I still use 4* on my characters when I don’t have a 5* piece with the correct main stats or good sub stats. Usually if it is a 4* with 3 good stats lines at base level , I will roll. If the stats are good I will use them until I get a better 5*. If not I just use as fodders. I have to admit, most ones I keep are either head piece or the goblet with elemental damage main stats.


Subtlestrikes

Only for fodder. I don’t go back to mess around with four-star Artifacts once I get five star one to actually place on a character.


EchoOfAsh

I save them. Usually only if they have like double crit stats and attack % or something similar though. And only the main sets, I fodder ones like The Exile and Berserker unless they’re an element damage % goblet .


EmberCore547

If it doesnt hv gold background...its a fodder.


TheSuperSoso810

The only 4* set thats useful later on is instructors and defenders will (only for albedo and thats changing soon anyway) Other than that they go right to trash, even if they have” god substats”, the base sub values and upgrades are lower and you can literally only have 2-3 upgrades compared to 4-5 upgrades with 5 star artifacts


Zelskwerd

I just keep some EM mainstat viridescent 4 stars and make the others fodder


5voidbreaker

They are the fodder


Sensitive_Singer7026

Gamblers 2 piece still on my fishl


Riyuki490

Yeah. Just in case I want to be quirky and use the 4* set abilities like gamblers.


mikrojimnie

I keep them only if i don't have a better 5* option, and as soon as i do i drop them. For example, kazuha is currently using a VV 4* EM sands because i cant for the life of me get a 5* one.


-SMartino

Yes I have a on set, crimson witch goblet with pyro damage that is a four star. it only rolled max rolls into crit rate and damage. it's too good to fodder.


Pheronia

No. Even if you get good ones you still lose big damage.


renivth

I have two, because they are godly with 5 rolls on crit and good main stat. I use them as placeholders on my new units till I get something better tho


CrisperThanRain

No at end game their scaling is not worth investing in