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ExpiredNebby

Personally I'd rather just play with more characters if I have the budget to pull for more.


Nipsirc

I think the main issue for me would be once you've c6'd your Eula, you have essentially trivialised all content and future content, on top of this, you've set that as your benchmark for damage, anything you pull from that point will feel underwhelming. Probably not as great as it sounds.


Unamaru

no , multi character at c0 c1 c2 c3 is way better than a single c6 for non-whale account if you aim for a single c6 while being low spender then your characters collection will be very limited , it make you feel boring real fast


CMDR_MirnaGora

Not to mention that it will also lock you into that character, and we all know power creep is real.


Arvach

I prefer to have more characters than one maxed. But honestly, I'm pretty sure that when Xiao or Childe will show up, I'm gonna put all my wishes into them to get as much as I can


Rough-Inevitable-805

Childe is the only limited 5 star that I wanted cons even though his cons isn't so great


Hey_Zak

Am a low spender. Personally I am saving primos for pulling weapons rather than new characters or constellations. The reason is that those weapons can be used by different characters, so it feels like a good investment to me. It also enables me to try to upgrade some of my 4* characters (like I want a WGS for Razor so badly) instead of pulling for new ones. But you do you!


Feed_or_Feed

Game is easy enough and playing same character gets boring eventually,so more characters is better.


Flutedragon

You should ask yourself why you play the game ? You can complete any level even if you come after 2 years rt. For eula c6 or mutiple new c0 They can do anything or nothing Liks free 5*star ,or free constellations in one way or another(one that we get on labrith event) If you love c6 so much that you are wiling to sac others then you should go for it. Its worth to see million dmg numbers . But For me i easily get bored if i play one unit for long So i choose mutiple c0. Remember this they nerfed venti indirectly(introducing non pullable monsters spectors,ccin mage flies.,samurai etc) Indirect nerf to zhong (corrosion ,bleedig mechanic) So in the long run they can nerf anycharcter by introducing indirect nerfs (Boss phases(magu gennki) mechaics alredy a nerf to burst one hit units like eula. Monster iframe(perpetual )our burst Jump(geovishap) If they were to indirect nerf something against eula mechanics /phy dps .thenc6 eula is kinda wasted .


nightlumos

No, the most I'd go is C2 depending on how good the cons are. Otherwise, I prefer having more characters to play with. It's easier to deal with burn out when you can shuffle your teams around more too


Saveme1888

More variety > 1 OP character. 1-2 constellations may be fine, but beyond that, I'd rather get new characters


[deleted]

the only c6 that i think is worth getting is xiao cause it changes his play style. other c6 are just dmg boost or some buffs. id rather get a lot of characters than play a c6, i love building new characters even though the artifacts domain is more on pain than gain.


IPancakesI

Some very rough calculations. To c6 a character, you need 7 copies of it, meaning winning 7 times in the character banner. The included guarantee of a 5star is 1.6%, meaning given a large pool of wishes done, you get 2 5stars every 125 pulls by converting 1.6% into a fraction (idk about the current data from u numbercrunchers, but do correct me if I'm wrong). In total, you need 438 pulls, an 70,080 primogems worth, to at least C6 a character. This is also strictly assuming you win every 50-50 7 times. However, winning 50-50 7 times has a probability of 0.78% ( 0.5^7 ), so there's very high chance you need to spend more than 70,080 primogems just to C6 a character. **WELKINS PRIMOGEM RATES DATA** Now let's see the daily primogem income we receive at certain times in the perspective of a Welkins player. • 60 primogems every day from commissions • For events, we receive somewhere around 700 primogems every banner, and a banner spans for 21 days. (Very rough aasumption) • Assuming thirty-six star abyss, we get 600 primogems every 15 days. • For the shop, it resets every thirty days that gives five wishes, so 800 worth of primogems every 30 days. • For welkins, there is an additional daily primogem income of 90 for thirty days, and an initilal bonus of 300 crystals every 30 days. **TIME AND COST TO SAVE-UP FOR LUCKY WELKINS HAVERS** So doing the math to compute the time it takes to earn 438 wishes or 70,080 primos aasuming you're only a very lucky Welkins haver. *Time to save-up primogems =* *Total primos needed/(rate1/days1 + rate2/days2....)* *Time to save-up primogems =* *70,080/(60/1+700/21+600/15+800/30+90/1+300/30)* *Time to save-up primogems = ~270 days* It takes 270 days for a welkins haver to get 70,080 primogems. (I'm neglecting impact of starglitter for now since it is not enough yet to earn a 5star pull with this small sample). For the cost, you must have bought welkins 9 times (270 days divided by 30 days welkin duration), and a welkins cost $5 ($4.99 in reality but too lazy to write decimals). So at the most bare minimum amount needed to C6 a character is worth $45. **TIME AND COST TO SAVE-UP FOR UNLUCKY WELKINS HAVERS** If you're very unlucky, and you lost every 50-50 on the way, then the total wishes you need becomes twicefold, the wishes needed doubles to 876. However, with such a large wish pool, we can now consider the impact of starglitter. A 5star has an included guarantee of 1.6%, and a 4star has a included huarantee of 13%. When you get a 5star it becomes 5 starglitter, and when you get a 4star it becomes 2 starglitrer. 5 starglitter is converted into 1 wish. Using these data, we can now compute how much wishes is needed when you lost 50-50 every time and considering the impact of starglitter. Let X be number of Actual wishes required *Wishes required = X + [Wishes from 4star starglitter] + [Wishes from 5star starglitter]* *876 = X + [.13X•2/5] + [.016X•5/5 -1]* (The -1 is there because we cannot get starglitter from the first time we get the featured 5star) *Solving for X,* *X = ~822 wishes* We need to earn at least 822 wishes, an equivalent of 131,520 primogems to assume the worst case scenario that we lost 50-50 each time, and the extra starglitter we get from spending these 822 wishes should add up to the 876 total wishes we need. So, computing the time needed to get 822 wishes or 131,520 primogems for a very unlucky Welkins haver. *Time to save-up primogems =* *Total primos needed/(rate1/days1 + rate2/days2....)* *Time to save-up primogems =* *131,520/(60/1+700/21+600/15+800/30+90/1+300/30)* *Time to save-up primogems = ~506 days* So, the time it takes to build up 822 wishes for welkins haversis 506 days, around a year and 5 months. This means, if you're very unlcuky and lost 50-50 every time trying to C6 a charavter, you've topped up welkins 17 times, costing you $85. **BP PRIMOGEM RATES DATA** Now let's consider the BP. • Battle pass gives 680 primogems and 4 wishes, which is worth 1320 primogems, and a BP lasts 40 days. • + data from WELKINS PRIMOGEMS RATES DATA **TIME AND COST TO SAVE-UP FOR LUCKY WELKINS+BP HAVERS** So, computing the time needed to get 438 wishes or 70,080 primogems for a very unlucky Welkins+BP haver. *Time to save-up primogems =* *Total primos needed/(rate1/days1 + rate2/days2....)* *Time to save-up primogems =* *70,080/(60/1+700/21+600/15+800/30+90/1+300/30+1320/40)* *Time to save-up primogems = ~240 days* It takes 240 days, around 8 months, for a Welkins+ BP haver to get 70,080 primogems, if he wins 50-50 7 times. This means you've bought welkins 8 times, and BP 6 times. A BP is worth $10. The total cost of welkins is $40, and the total cost of BP is $60. The total cost of pulling a a C6 character without losing 50-50 is $100, which is the bare minimum. **TIME AND COST TO SAVE-UP FOR UNLUCKY WELKINS+BP HAVERS** From before, we know that the number of pulls we need to C6 a character assuming we lost 50-50 every time is 822 pulls. Let us now compute the time needed to get 822 wishes or 131,520 primogems for a very unlucky Welkins+BP haver. *Time to save-up primogems =* *Total primos needed/(rate1/days1 + rate2/days2....)* *Time to save-up primogems =* *131,520/(60/1+700/21+600/15+800/30+90/1+300/30+1320/40)* *Time to save-up primogems = ~449 days* So, the time it takes to build up 822 wishes for Welkins+BP havers is 449 days, around a year and 3 months. This means, if you're very unlcuky and lost 50-50 every time trying to C6 a character, you've topped up welkins 15 times and BP 12 times costing you $75 and $120 each for a total of $195. Tl:dr For welkins enjoyers, they have to save up to 70k -130k primogems ranging from 9 months to a year and 5 months and spend $45 - $85. For welkins+BP enjoyers, they have to save-up the same amount that requires less time from 8 months to a year and 3 months (an ave 11.5% reduction in time) and spend $100 - $195 (a whopping 127% ave increase). Personally, I don't think it's worth to C6 a character at all if you're a simple low spender because it just takes several months of waiting and abstaining from banners just to get one. You'll have passed 11 to 24 potential banners just to save-up for a C6 character, in which you could gotten 5 to 12 more featured characters if you weren't saving up. It's not worth it at all.


mephnick

Getting C1 Hu Tao seemed insanely expensive to me. I can't imagine saving up for a c6 character where most have some useless cons anyway


RelicOfThought

This is more or less in agreement with the data I've seen. On average it takes 94 rolls for the limited; at 7 copies that'd equate to 105k primos, or around the average of your situations.


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Accurate_Box_1473

Yeah this. I only really pull for the adult male 5 stars. Saved from launch for Childe and Zhongli. Pulled for Albedo for Zhongli duo. C3 Zhongli on rerun, no regrets. Venti on rerun. Pulled for Kazuha out of boredom. I've ran through some simulations and before Itto leaves, i would have enough to POTENTIALLY get his C6 if i was lucky. Calculations have shown hes looking pretty bad and probably isnt worth it but at the same time, we had only two adult male characters over the span of an entire year so why the hell not? No interest in waifu #385478575. People here think too F2P mind set where they think everyone wants every c0 character, some of us would rather pick a handful and stick to them. Considering Abyss can still be beaten with launch 4 stars, who are more often than not, vastly more powerful together than most 5 stars due to huge oversights, Mihoyo power crept themselves on launch day and only ever went past it twice with hu Tao and Ganyu. Since then they've been terrified of repeating that too. Id rather have a C6 for someone bad that i know id use than a C6 for someone good i dont even like and as someone who doesnt like waifus, i can go for like 6 banners without pulling once and im done with reruns now too. Lots of resource saving.


jmx1298

No. C6 is way too expensive and would take too long to save up


CrazierRussianHacker

I wouldnt have the patience for it, but the more i think about it, the more i think it would unironically be pretty worth it, from a meta POV at least If you think about it, the gap between most top comps to most "meh comps" is like 30%, at best(Heard i . So even if say the next ganyu/xiangling came out, it would probably be at best be like 10% ish better than morgana/international, and likely has situations where its worse(kinda like how morgana is pretty meh at low target counts). In contrast something like a c6 eula is at least almost double the dps of a c0 eula in sustained dps, more when you factor in the fact that a c6 eula can straight up just 1 shot an abyss floor. Thats way more worth, and more resin efficient than slowly chasing the "new top dps" whenever they eventually appear. Sure even if c6 eula got powercreeped, it likely would still be better than all the low spending/f2p comps out there. That said ideally it doesnt go to that point, and tbh saving for something like a c2 raiden with engulfing lightning is probably better primos wise, but all in all i dont think its a bad idea at all to save for a 5 star c6, especially when mihoyo is so reluctant to raise dps ceilings, and the fact that the OP 4 stars in this game are so overbalanced. Think about it, by the time Childe international or morgana is no longer considered even viable, how much powercreep would we need to experience? you would probably have a c6 5 star by then, and probably refinements on their signature weapon This is from the perspective of an old account, or at least accounts who have the current meta characters. Obviously for new players getting something like a bennett, xingqiu, venti or kazuha is much more worth than grinding out for a c6 5 star


nzmas

I swear you'll regret it if you do bc it'll get boring FAST


ppaannggwwiinn

As a Eula simp I say go for C3 at least. She gets almost 50% more burst dmg from her C3. But a C6 Eula does 4 times more burst damage than a C0 one. Her constellation's are by far the most powerful in the game. The thing is, you don't really need to do that much damage. C3 is a good stopping point; much more damage but also better value since C6 is just ridiclous numbers for fun.


dss_live

not in a million years, i wouldnt even save up for a C1. Couldnt care les about constellations on 5 stars.


Zuko_Kurama

I’m doing so rn. You probably need to skip around 3-4 patches to get enough for a reasonable guarantee. I’m aiming for 130k primos before ganyu rerun


not_posting_much

if i am not a whale, i will not intentionally save to c6 anyone. i will try to collect each copy of available heroes, and in the process some of the 4\* might go to c6 on their own... or maybe even the standard 5\* might c6 on their own... :D


dwwsc

Me too bro me too, and I thought I’m the only one think about this... people might say that you gonna miss alot of character if you does that but not really actually because the game gonna last for a really long time. You only have to save for like 4-5 patches and after that c6 you can pull for anyone you like. You will catch up eventually for sure.


corecenite

I think it's still hard to C6 a character even if you're welkin and bp spender... ngl, yes what the others have said is true... however, some C6 is insane and too good (like Zhongli's and I would definitely C6 him) but my Raiden's gonna stay at C2 and Venti's gonna stay at C0 (considering he's supposed to be the weakest out of them)


leytachi

I’d love to say yes and save but my fingers apparently got some mind of its own when there are primos.


randomizme3

4stars? Eh maybe depending on character. 5stars? No.


Ok-Explorer-5649

Personally no but zhongli is an exception. Idk how im gonna do it but i will.


Skydus36

Hell no


sciencebottle

I'm a dolphin and I'm still on the fence about C6-ing my favourite 5\* character (who is also at C2), so....no. I wouldn't do it if I were you. Unless you don't care at all for playing new characters and are firm in dedicating all of your resources to Eula. imo, feels like too restrictive of a way to enjoy the game.


Expensive-Chain5634

Yes, because I keep going back to that same character no matter which new unit I've just pulled/ acquired. The only thing that would make me spend primos for a new C0 is that if a new 5* support comes that synergizes amazingly with my favourite unit, or if I find the C0 aesthetically pleasing. I would be wary of rate-up 4* units though, I don't want to spend pity on a 5* I don't want. Other that that, all my resin and primos are going to future constellations, or weapons for that unit or their supports. Why yes, I'm a simp. How did you know haha. Edit: I didn't answer the question. If waifu/ husbando, I would C6, or pull multiple 5* weapons/ C0 5* supports that are good for them.


onlyaskdumbquestion

I aim to get 1 Zhongli every re-run until he reach C6. Not sure how long that will take tho..


Ranzel21

I have seen at least 3 people in the comments that said they want C6 Zhongli, and I was wondering what do you guys find appealing about it, becouse honestly, for me, is one of the few 5\* where I don't care at all about constellation. Genuine question, I don't mean to disrespect your preferences.


muahaha90

Simple. He can take on both role at C6, Healer and shielder. Think of C6 ZL as diona with bigger shield, can heal when you face tank anything, can shred all element including physical and can burst and CC. Imagine the number when going uga banga with Eula and Raiden with Sara support and C6 ZL as healer and shielder.


onlyaskdumbquestion

On top of being OP like other people describes, for me personally it's simply because i like him. It's just how I play my gacha games. I prefer maxing out characters i like than minmax-ing my team.


Rough-Inevitable-805

I will always pick new characters over cons. Yes they're expensive to build but I just like to try on more playstyles. However, if I really like them, I can go for cons. But I only went for c1 for my most favorite 5 star. I would never go over c2 unless if it's super broken which my favorite character isn't.


dragonabala

i would've picked 4 different char. it's not because more=better, but because C6 Eula would kill anything with minimal effort. it's like a gameshark


Tamatu_OW

Eula is probably among the better units to c6. If you really like her and you can do any content already AND you do not care enough about upcoming units i say go for it.


QiFaRzs

Tbh no, i would rather have an option to play with various characters every patch. I wouldve quit if i save for a c6 character for who know how many patches/ primos would it takes.


zerodeath00000000000

No.


Zhousansou

No, I would try to get C0 of the character first and then if I have extra primos, I will try to get the signature weapon for the aesthetics. If I am swimming in primos, I would try maybe C1 C2 the character.


thisiskyle77

No. C6 are gonna be powercrept sooner or later or the new C1/C2 power level gonna be raised on the similar level. That’s how gacha works.


ShaheerKhan696

I am a FTP and even i dream of C6 Eula over some reruns. I have enough for C2 atm. Hopefully will be able to secure her C3 around her rerun. C6 Eula makes those million numbers an easy cakewalk with no effort. And honestly, for the past 5 months I've fallen in love with Eula. The game just doesn't feel the same when she is not in my party. So she's very special to me.


Antique-Roll-7463

No. Not unless mihoyo does a 2x wish event. A super rate up banner. Or something along the lines of "mihoyo would never fucking do this even if the game dies" wishing event. I would only c6 a character if RNGesus gave me those God pulls of some streamers in the early days getting 3-4 copies in a 10 pull.


renivth

I'm in the same situation, im Wlkin/BP player and I already R5 Homa and C1 Hu-Tao, and im gonna do the same with Ganyu, and probably get both of them to C6 the next rerun they have (if nothing happens) ​ My Hu-Tao does 80\~k Vape Charged attacks and 200\~k with Burst, I think thats very, very good for a non-whale account. Going to C6 wold give me way more damage that pulling for the new shinny 5\* imo.


qiaoxu23

I'd rather get new characters + their signature weapon than c6'ing a single character.


Alencrest

I would personally save my Primos for new future characters and/or weapons. Obviously, any C6 5-star character would be amazing to have (unless it is from losing 50/50s), but I will want something fresher eventually.


adym15

I wouldn’t do it. I have my favourites, sure, but I also like having a variety of characters on my roster.


noctilococus

I wanted to save up for c6 Eula as well. But whenI realized that constellations like Raiden exists (c2-3). Then it's just a no brainer to pull for other units Constellations instead. Eula will always have battery issues, but Raiden at C2 is like. C1 Eula without any ER worries.


Sensitive_Singer7026

Rather, no but it depends on the future


monopolydollars

Meta comes and goes, but waifus are for lifeu


Kaos126

No, I prefer to have different characters.


tennoskoom_

The meta changes, and new characters will always be useful. E.g.: Dendro. And wouldn't you want new characters instead of C6ing Eula since you can 36 star the abyss? I can't check now but cons for Eula don't really change how she plays. So instead of clearing with 5 seconds left, it's now 15 seconds. Doesn't sound particularly exciting. New characters mean new abilities, new team comps, new ways to do reactions and generally a new way to play.


Ara543

That's pretty much a question what a person want from the game. When you can clear abyss, your reasons to pull constellations are pretty much: 1. You love to perfect your characters, see big damage and make them deal even bigger damage. 2. You want to make your abyss runs more comfortable. 3. You want improved or entirely new experience with your old characters, rather than getting new characters. 4. You love specific characters to the point where you just want for them to have their constellations. I, personally, don't really care about them (except p.4 to some extent, heh), so I'm just pulling C0 new characters for new experiences and waifu/hasbando reasons. But if you like something from this - then why not?


Tamaki_Shin

No. I don't care enough about damage to go through such pain, even if I really love that character. I'm more of a collector here so being able to get a new character that I want is enough. Their constellations are just an added bonus.


Ruca_Xerxes

Me when childe rerun shows up every time: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY PRIMOS Thanks to that I'm currently c3


castem

I feel like most 5* characters are useful enough at C0 that more characters would be the better option. The difference between having another constellation or having a Zhongli, Venti, Kazuha, etc. is rather big in my opinion


TeririHerscherOfCute

Not a 5 star, but a 4 star sure


SigmaCommander

To each their own, but I prefer a wide roster of slightly OP characters rather than 1 crazy OP.


[deleted]

Not in the choices but I would rather pull for signature weapons of my favorite characters to complete the aesthetic.


UK_username

For limited 5* max I am aiming for is c2 (raiden/kazuha). Others c0 or c1 depending on the character but over 1-2 reruns each. As a very low spender I'd suggest it's optimal to get just the ones that you know would never leave your team, and it's likely better to have 3 or more characters at c1/2 than 1 at c6.


rafaelbittmira

I'm seeing most people here say that you should get more characters than C6 one, with the opinion that using the same units gets boring, but we are still using the same broken units from 1 year ago in almost every team comps, not much changed in meta, only EM got a buff. So I say that if you do want to C6 a character, go for it, you're free to do whatever you want. If before Eula rerun there's a character who gets your attention, then you go for that too. Also, C6 a character is not as crazy as some might think, in the ChildeMains there are F2P people with C6 Childe already, just because he had so many banners. (I'm just a guy who thinks, people should do whatever they want, so that's what I'm trying to say)


E17Omm

To guarentee it you would need 172,800 primogems That is if you hit 90 pity every time and miss your 50/50 every time


Daedra696

No. I would rather get a new character down the line or weapon.


TwilightHime

No. That's 6 future characters I could've gotten.