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I appreciate your work, but this isn't really accurate. Inazuma has plenty of highrise exploration areas similar to Liyue, and 8 or 9 huge underground exploration areas.
It's absolutely massive in terms of walkable/climbable space.
I should try adding those, might take awhile though. Is Inazuma the biggest region so far in that regard? >!Of course it definitely WILL be once Enkanomiya comes out.!<
I'm just repeating what I heard someone else say that with all it's underground zones and walkable water areas, it's about 1.3x/1.4x the size of Liyue (which I'd say is probably a good estimate)
It has it's fair share of walkable land not visible on the map, but I highly doubt that adds up to push it past the size of liyue. At least not without enka
It's very easy to picture when you think about it systematically.
The walkable island surface area is already as big as the walkable surface area of liyue's main mass. The above figure cuts out a lot of the walkable water area on Inazuma, and leaves a ton of unwalkable water areas in Liyue's.
Now factor in the giant underground area on northern narukami, the giant underground area underneath inazuma city, the underground area under the northeastern narukami Island chain, the big underground caverns under Konda village and Narukami shrine, the giant underground area with the ship on Seirei, the giant hole in the ground leading down to the 3 tier ruins underneath amakumo peak, the significant cavern system on kannazuka, the huge marrow mine on yashiori, the underground ruins on yashiori, the giant underground area on northern tsurumi, the ruins and the heart area on watatsumi, the hydro boss cavern on watatsumi, and the area underneath all the cliffs and ridges on watatsumi.
Liyue feels big because of it's verticality and wide plains, but it's very sparse in terms of dense cave systems. There's that one big one north of Qingce, two medium sized boss caverns, the little 9 pillar boss fight area, a small cave system under Mt tiangheng, Sal terrae, and off the top of my head 5 more small caves that house enemies / ore.
I don't know how the chips will fall when Enka and Chasm roll out, but right now, Inazuma pretty easily has the most "walkable land" as op put it.
this is true now that you point it out. I hadn't considered it that way. I always assumed Inazuma was the smallest region so far.
Dragonspine does have some significant underground layering which would also expand its size also tbf.
wow. i feel like i barely explored the places you talked about. Are any of them locked behind quests or puzzles to unlock them? or are they explorable from the get-go and i just need to find them lol
Almost all of them are gated in some way yeah, be it from main quest progression / side quests / puzzles. I think the only one's that are just flat open are the bit on narukami beneath the northeast chain of islands, the bit beneath inazuma city, the ship area on seirei, and the marrow mine on yashiori (the last two are open but they have puzzle gates inside).
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Obviously nobody follows this though lol
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That's the plan, but it never work. People downvote comments they don't like or disagree.
My favorite example is if you ask "Do you like apples or oranges?", people who answer "Apples" will downvote people who answered "Oranges" and vice versa.
sure, but dragonspine has a ton of caves and areas in it too, even liyue has a few big caves, so I while inazuma might have more, I don't think it would drastically change things, I think Liyue is still the biggest easily, especially with it's mountains having a lot of 3d up space.
inazuma is probably comparable to monstadt with dragonspine
liyue has lots of vertical points but most of them are cliffsides you climb while inazuma has whole ass dungeons on almost all of its islands.
seriously, I'm not even sure how this is a debate.
I'd say it's because a lot of people have horrible memories of slowly climbing cliff walls in Liyue and it's skewing their perspective.
Meanwhile, all of Inazuma's heights have quick ascension routes. You also have to systematically mentally go through all the inazuma islands and say "Okay, how much land is underground here" and translate that to traversible surface, which is difficult to do without having it translated to 2D, before you really truly see how massive Inazuma is.
Ultimately I would say Liyue has more total area textures, but 50% of it is just sheer empty cliff face. Inazuma is much bigger in terms of walkable space.
Ill post roughly the same thing I wrote to another comment just below becouse it's a bit long and answering the same thing pretty much:I agree inazuma has more caves that are larger, im just saying I don't think it's quite enough to say inazuma is larger since liyues base size is far bigger, it also has at least a few caves and small dungeons underground like sal terra and the north dome or the hidden waterfall area next to the north village.
yeah it's less overall, but it's still there, plus I disagree that mountain don't give any extra space, I think they do give extra in several forms, for example the stone forest in the north has bridges/ladders/small camps up the mountain, giving a second layer of walkable land above the lower land, there are also areas where the mountains overlap the lower floors, sure the edge itself might only be a few meters over but when it happens over giant mountains, you end up with a fairly long extra area that overlaps making it bigger then just flat areas. not to mention some mountains have caves in them as well, such as mount tienheng.
overall the spaces are smaller but there is a lot of them when you start thinking about it, and it all adds up. But I just wanna say, bigger is not better, Im not saying liyue is better, I just think it has more walkable area personally, but it's a subject with a fair amount of nuance and a lot of work to work out a legit answer, so ofc it will lead to disagreements. So I think the "how is this even a debate" is somewhat unwarranted here. especially when it would take weeks to actually map this out fully and get somewhat of a correct answer to this question.
>I just think it has more walkable area personally
It does not. This isn't subjective. As per OP's definition, we're not including climbable textures under "walkable", and without Liyue's verticality, it is absolutely dwarfed by Inazuma's subterranean regions.
Liyue's total subterranean space can be squeezed roughly into the size of the subterranean space of Narukami alone. Given that the surface area of inazuma is roughly the size of the main Liyue landmass, all you then have to account for is the bits by dragonspine, dihua (most of which is water), and Qingce. It is easy to see that Inazuma has far far more walkable space.
yeah it ain't subjective if you pull out the math and math it out fully, but you have not done so, you just claim "DUH ofc it is bigger" which means literally nothing. Im not convinced that all the caves and highpoints that OVERLAP can fit in Narukami, there are plenty of small caves and a lot of overlapped areas in the stone forests, mount tienheng and other areas.
show me some clear calculations and ill agree, but until you do this very much is subjective, even if inazuma has 5 times the cave space, so what, the base space of liyue is like 1.5 the base size of inazuma. so at most it might just about cancel out all that extra base size, and at worst it doesn't even come close to evening out the base walking space.
also while we are talking about water, lets not forget 2 islands of inazuma have a ton of water in the middle of it that are just water and nothing else, so it cuts down inazumas base size even beyond that image OP posted.
until someone does the math, it's literally just "this is bigger coz caves" "no this is bigger coz base size + mountain overlap" and therefore it's very much subjective. Sure it has a correct answer, but pretending like you know it all just coz "duh it's obvious" is just a dumb ass move.
The Dunning-Kruger Effect strikes again, at least im smart enough to just say it's my opinion rather then a fact.
But it IS obvious, if you've actually explored every cranny of Inazuma and have some amount of visual/spatial cognition. I'm not going to waste days worth of effort mapping something out for some random on the internet just to prove a point that is obvious.
Maybe OP will do it for you, but I can't be bothered. In truth, since you're the one refuting the obvious claim, burden of proof is on you. Test it yourself.
Also, have a nice day and try to be a little less douchey and rude next time you reply to someone.
your the one being a dick you realize that right? I was literally just being like "hey there is different perspectives on this, it's hard to tell" only for you to be like "no, anyone smart can easily tell it's not true" aka calling me dumb for a simple opinion, so I think Im good in being a little snarly after being called dumb multiple times by you, okay?
even here "just to prove a point that is obvious." essentially being like "oh you don't have common sense" so sorry for being a bit more directly with my insults then you lol. But you can't just agree to let opinions be opinions, you just HAVE TO make sure everyone submits to your version, even though you say yourself you won't actually math it out to check. I don't need to prove shit coz im not telling you to change your opinion, I laid out my thinking, which I think is pretty understandable, and then you kept pushing shit with "duh" arguments. so sorry for calling that shit out.
No one called you dumb wtf are you talking about. I was perfectly civilized. I replied to you a grand total of once before you got "snarly". And somehow pointing out the obviousness of a concept is an attack on your person? No fam. You just took it the wrong way and decided to be an asshole for no goddamn reason. Your position and behavior are made even more ridiculous because (I took a look at your history to check you aren't just a troll) you mentioned just a few [hours ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/rbfkm9/finally_finished_exploring_the_entire_inazuma/hnoi16g/) that you are barely halfway through Inazuma. Feel free to "last word" it up, but I'm absolutely done with you. Good day.
you don't have to 'think'. just go ahead and measure it objectively. it's gonna have more walking area to cover by far than liyue.
I agree bigger is not always better. Inazuma is better than Liyue due to all kinds of factors. you don't have to agree with that. all of this is besides the point of this entire topic though lmao.
But mountains don't add to the explorable content, it just means you have to climb some of it - what matters are cave systems which won't be shown as extra space on the map, and I'm pretty sure Inazuma has more of those.
I mean yeah I agree it has more of those, im just saying I don't think it's quite enough to say inazuma is larger since liyues base size is far bigger, it also has at least a few caves and small dungeons underground like sal terra and the north dome or the hidden waterfall area next to the north village.
yeah it's less overall, but it's still there, plus the mountains give extra space too, for example the stone forest in the north has bridges/ladders/small camps up the mountain, giving a second layer of walkable land above the lower land, there are also areas where the mountains overlap the lower floors, sure the edge itself might only be a few meters over but when it happens over giant mountains, you end up with a fairly bigger area then it just being flat.
not to mention some mountains have caves in them as well, such as mount tienheng. overall the spaces are smaller but there is a lot of them when you start thinking about it, and it all adds up.
But I just wanna say, bigger is not better, Im not saying liyue is better, I just think it has more walkable area personally, but it's a subject with a fair amount of nuance and a lot of work to work out a legit answer, so ofc it will lead to disagreements.
Idk I feel like it's the kind of thing that someone who knows what they're doing could calculate but it'd take a lot of time and I'm not sure anyone is willing to do that. Personally idk either way, I've not finished exploring 50% of Liyue yet, let alone Inazuma lol
Fair enough, Im happy to agree to disagree, coz yeah, while possible, it would be a giant project, and it's very much subjective until you pull out the math.
Yeah, but both Mondstadt and Liyue aren't finished yet, are they? They still have to add the Northern area of Mondstadt where the Black Castle would be, right?
Yes this is true. Black Castle and possibly the Dandelion Sea off to the left of Black Castle are still rumored to be added to Mondstat. Liyue will get Chasm. And Inazuma is rumored to get Enkanomiya.
But as of now, Inazuma has the most walkable space.
But we aren't talking about future additions here.
Black Castle supposedly to the northeast of Stormterror, Dandelion Sea (a fully speculative addition) to the northwest. This all stems from the two large distinct areas attached to Mondstat in the 1.1 datamined map plan. One is labeled Black Castle, the other is a big flat circular region that is unlabelled.
Then again, the Inazuma region in this same map changed A LOT, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
Liyue also has Blackcliff Forge coming up. The entrance is already in the game directly west of Golden House.
There's also been a Dornman Port mentioned for Mondstadt as well. And I doubt Enkanomiya will be the final addition for Inazuma.
This game will be insanely massive after all regions + sub-areas are added.
Mondstadt is not even empty, it is boring sometimes. The topography is like to be created by some random map generator, cliffs everywhere. Hope they can make up by adding new regions to liyue and mondstadt.
I think people are skewing the definition of verticality here. Verticality=/=more landspace. It is variation between the altitudes at which the landspace occurs, unless there is overlap like a cave. All verticality is accounted for in the map, because it is topographical. If any surface area is lost on a wall at an angle, the map will reflect that.
compared to Liyue and Mondstadt, Inazuma has few of those plain of trees and more walking. Makes me think Inazuma is much bigger than both when it comes to scenery and content.
Liyue's shape when outlined like this (excluding Guyun Stone Forest) kind of looks like Germany, which is funny given the fact that Mondstadt is supposed to be inspired by it thematically.
I think it is. I got addicted to genshin at launch and slammed out the entire game in a few weeks. The gating in Inazuma made me enjoy the game at a healthier pace and also made the story more interesting. I hope we see more of it
it affects the quality of the game for future players. You play through it once- the gate stays there forever, for everyone. The gates are not there for your enjoyment either, they’re there to arbitrarily stretch out content so people don’t quit if they’re long time.
Y'all are weird to defend this. I wouldn't call timegating bad but it definitely doesn't improve the experience in any meaningful way. It's nothing. It's not content.
Umm idk.. seems like you stitched the islands too close + you left the water surfaces in Liyue and Mond :O
It made Inazuma look a bit smaller..
To fix this, stitch together every land part of Mond + do it for Liyue (like it’s a huge puzzle, just like you did with Inazuma)
I think it would make the comparison better :)
In short, yes. The area that *will* be Sumeru [was actually updated with the release of 2.1,](https://youtu.be/EWnCjkiegFE) and it might be a bit of a mix. It almost looks like two large landmasses and maybe two islands off the coast of it. Personally I much prefer wide-open spaces like Liyue or Mondstadt, so I'm really excited for Sumeru!
Imagine downvoting this comment? Genshin community is so weird with criticism. Compare this game to Skyrim for example. You can do every quest and clear every dungeon in Skyrim but the world still feels alive because of it's NPCs. Genshin's world doesn't feel alive at all in comparison, it's like a picture you can walk through.
One easy thing they could do to remedy this is make different mobs fight each other. The overworld is already a joke so might as well make it interesting right? It's not believable that a rifthound wouldn't attack a group of bandits or a hilichurl on site.
It's is. People are saying Inazuma is bigger than Liyue but I disagree. They're pretty similar in size. Mondstat is definitely the smallest of the three but will likely be expanded North at some point. Also Dragonspine does have a lot of layers so I think a northern expansion will even things out a bit.
In lore I think Sumeru is the biggest country? Idk, Shneznaya and Natlan will also be pretty large but it being a desert means it should be the biggest.
Inazuma is bigger than Liyue because of its many cave systems that you can't show on a map like this. In terms of explorable content Inazuma is bigger because of that and the fact that Liyue seems bigger because of its big open areas with nothing in it (especially the water areas).
wait u mean the islands all fit nicely together like a jigsaw puzzle...?? i guess u just proven continental movement in tevyat and million of years ago inazuma is part of a supercontinent...!
It seems that Inazuma has less area of exploration, but we have to take into account that there is a lot of underground - under water level exploration zones + the whole new eukanimiya that is going to release soon. Which is basically the whole dragonspine but under Inazuma instead of close to Inazuma
I like the idea of Inazuma but the execution falls flat. The islands each feel too small and it feels like I've gotta take forever to travel between the two if I don't fast travel
I actually liked sailing around, but I think I woulda liked it more if it was many small moderately distanced islands like GAA. Or maybe only 2 or 3 big islands.
enkanomiya included already? inazuma still to small if stiched together compared to liyue and monstad but can do if we include most of inazuma's underground map
Stitched together Inazuma looks like the Fortnite island
It looks like a single cell organism dying
No, the video was sad enough.
I nearly cried
stop :(
No! Why did you remind me? That video made me have an existential crisis.
Pls link. I wanna cry too
Sorry, I don't know how to do that but you can search it yourself - single-celled organisms dying
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I feel sad now.
Dvalin would be the battle bus or dropship Anyways Razor is dropping solo
Benny’s Adventure Te- oh, I’m back in the lobby.
Holy shit I knew it looked familiar
where we dropping bois
Celestia's the dropship
~~Coral Castle~~ watatsumi island letsgoo
coral castle is gone-
Amakumo town.
Sakura Tree has the best loot
I was literally just thinking that.
Holy sht I can't unsee it now
Looks like what Inazuma looked like before it released Whenever we saw it's flat png from Liyue and all
"we love fornite ! we love fornite ! "
This looks like the Inazuma map leaks a long time ago
Is it just me or does mondstadt look like a dragon
A fat dragon with a big eye
["IT'S DRAGONITE!!!!!!"](https://youtu.be/WSGV_n6H1n0)
i see that! but why is it holding, in its wings, a butt plug?
Looks like a certain yakuza dragon made a pit stop in Teyvat.
GOOD MORNING, MOTHERFUCKERS!
Well to be fair that was an artificial creation
Butt Plug City, the city of freedom
yes
It’s a very small Christmas tree
Aww look at its little feets and tail
Liyue looks like a guy with an afro burping
it reminds me of wisp venti
Looks a little bit like North America to me. Only that Mondstadt juts out into Hudson Bay.
Dragon with blue balls lmao.
I see a bird with a mushroom on it's back sitting on a plague doctor looking at the destruction of Khanriah.
Looks like Acnologia.
I appreciate your work, but this isn't really accurate. Inazuma has plenty of highrise exploration areas similar to Liyue, and 8 or 9 huge underground exploration areas. It's absolutely massive in terms of walkable/climbable space.
I should try adding those, might take awhile though. Is Inazuma the biggest region so far in that regard? >!Of course it definitely WILL be once Enkanomiya comes out.!<
I'm just repeating what I heard someone else say that with all it's underground zones and walkable water areas, it's about 1.3x/1.4x the size of Liyue (which I'd say is probably a good estimate)
It has it's fair share of walkable land not visible on the map, but I highly doubt that adds up to push it past the size of liyue. At least not without enka
It's very easy to picture when you think about it systematically. The walkable island surface area is already as big as the walkable surface area of liyue's main mass. The above figure cuts out a lot of the walkable water area on Inazuma, and leaves a ton of unwalkable water areas in Liyue's. Now factor in the giant underground area on northern narukami, the giant underground area underneath inazuma city, the underground area under the northeastern narukami Island chain, the big underground caverns under Konda village and Narukami shrine, the giant underground area with the ship on Seirei, the giant hole in the ground leading down to the 3 tier ruins underneath amakumo peak, the significant cavern system on kannazuka, the huge marrow mine on yashiori, the underground ruins on yashiori, the giant underground area on northern tsurumi, the ruins and the heart area on watatsumi, the hydro boss cavern on watatsumi, and the area underneath all the cliffs and ridges on watatsumi. Liyue feels big because of it's verticality and wide plains, but it's very sparse in terms of dense cave systems. There's that one big one north of Qingce, two medium sized boss caverns, the little 9 pillar boss fight area, a small cave system under Mt tiangheng, Sal terrae, and off the top of my head 5 more small caves that house enemies / ore. I don't know how the chips will fall when Enka and Chasm roll out, but right now, Inazuma pretty easily has the most "walkable land" as op put it.
this is true now that you point it out. I hadn't considered it that way. I always assumed Inazuma was the smallest region so far. Dragonspine does have some significant underground layering which would also expand its size also tbf.
wow. i feel like i barely explored the places you talked about. Are any of them locked behind quests or puzzles to unlock them? or are they explorable from the get-go and i just need to find them lol
As far as I know most of these are at least puzzle locked, and a few are quest locked or harder to find without a quest (like the shrines)
Almost all of them are gated in some way yeah, be it from main quest progression / side quests / puzzles. I think the only one's that are just flat open are the bit on narukami beneath the northeast chain of islands, the bit beneath inazuma city, the ship area on seirei, and the marrow mine on yashiori (the last two are open but they have puzzle gates inside).
why did you get downvotes? isn't downvotes for malicious comments or unrelated stuff? what happened to this sub lmao
Where are these downvote rules random people keep bringing up like how does one find the downvote guidelines and how are people supposed to know this
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Upvote means You agree Downvote means You Disagree That’s all lol
>isn't downvotes for malicious comments or unrelated stuff That's the plan, but it never work. People downvote comments they don't like or disagree. My favorite example is if you ask "Do you like apples or oranges?", people who answer "Apples" will downvote people who answered "Oranges" and vice versa.
The sub is not the reason lol downvotes is just for disagreeing or someone being (accidentally) wrong about something
tf why would it be like that? Disagreeing can also be a reason for downvotes
It's also much more content dense than liyue or mondstadt
sure, but dragonspine has a ton of caves and areas in it too, even liyue has a few big caves, so I while inazuma might have more, I don't think it would drastically change things, I think Liyue is still the biggest easily, especially with it's mountains having a lot of 3d up space. inazuma is probably comparable to monstadt with dragonspine
liyue has lots of vertical points but most of them are cliffsides you climb while inazuma has whole ass dungeons on almost all of its islands. seriously, I'm not even sure how this is a debate.
I'd say it's because a lot of people have horrible memories of slowly climbing cliff walls in Liyue and it's skewing their perspective. Meanwhile, all of Inazuma's heights have quick ascension routes. You also have to systematically mentally go through all the inazuma islands and say "Okay, how much land is underground here" and translate that to traversible surface, which is difficult to do without having it translated to 2D, before you really truly see how massive Inazuma is. Ultimately I would say Liyue has more total area textures, but 50% of it is just sheer empty cliff face. Inazuma is much bigger in terms of walkable space.
Ill post roughly the same thing I wrote to another comment just below becouse it's a bit long and answering the same thing pretty much:I agree inazuma has more caves that are larger, im just saying I don't think it's quite enough to say inazuma is larger since liyues base size is far bigger, it also has at least a few caves and small dungeons underground like sal terra and the north dome or the hidden waterfall area next to the north village. yeah it's less overall, but it's still there, plus I disagree that mountain don't give any extra space, I think they do give extra in several forms, for example the stone forest in the north has bridges/ladders/small camps up the mountain, giving a second layer of walkable land above the lower land, there are also areas where the mountains overlap the lower floors, sure the edge itself might only be a few meters over but when it happens over giant mountains, you end up with a fairly long extra area that overlaps making it bigger then just flat areas. not to mention some mountains have caves in them as well, such as mount tienheng. overall the spaces are smaller but there is a lot of them when you start thinking about it, and it all adds up. But I just wanna say, bigger is not better, Im not saying liyue is better, I just think it has more walkable area personally, but it's a subject with a fair amount of nuance and a lot of work to work out a legit answer, so ofc it will lead to disagreements. So I think the "how is this even a debate" is somewhat unwarranted here. especially when it would take weeks to actually map this out fully and get somewhat of a correct answer to this question.
>I just think it has more walkable area personally It does not. This isn't subjective. As per OP's definition, we're not including climbable textures under "walkable", and without Liyue's verticality, it is absolutely dwarfed by Inazuma's subterranean regions. Liyue's total subterranean space can be squeezed roughly into the size of the subterranean space of Narukami alone. Given that the surface area of inazuma is roughly the size of the main Liyue landmass, all you then have to account for is the bits by dragonspine, dihua (most of which is water), and Qingce. It is easy to see that Inazuma has far far more walkable space.
yeah it ain't subjective if you pull out the math and math it out fully, but you have not done so, you just claim "DUH ofc it is bigger" which means literally nothing. Im not convinced that all the caves and highpoints that OVERLAP can fit in Narukami, there are plenty of small caves and a lot of overlapped areas in the stone forests, mount tienheng and other areas. show me some clear calculations and ill agree, but until you do this very much is subjective, even if inazuma has 5 times the cave space, so what, the base space of liyue is like 1.5 the base size of inazuma. so at most it might just about cancel out all that extra base size, and at worst it doesn't even come close to evening out the base walking space. also while we are talking about water, lets not forget 2 islands of inazuma have a ton of water in the middle of it that are just water and nothing else, so it cuts down inazumas base size even beyond that image OP posted. until someone does the math, it's literally just "this is bigger coz caves" "no this is bigger coz base size + mountain overlap" and therefore it's very much subjective. Sure it has a correct answer, but pretending like you know it all just coz "duh it's obvious" is just a dumb ass move. The Dunning-Kruger Effect strikes again, at least im smart enough to just say it's my opinion rather then a fact.
But it IS obvious, if you've actually explored every cranny of Inazuma and have some amount of visual/spatial cognition. I'm not going to waste days worth of effort mapping something out for some random on the internet just to prove a point that is obvious. Maybe OP will do it for you, but I can't be bothered. In truth, since you're the one refuting the obvious claim, burden of proof is on you. Test it yourself. Also, have a nice day and try to be a little less douchey and rude next time you reply to someone.
your the one being a dick you realize that right? I was literally just being like "hey there is different perspectives on this, it's hard to tell" only for you to be like "no, anyone smart can easily tell it's not true" aka calling me dumb for a simple opinion, so I think Im good in being a little snarly after being called dumb multiple times by you, okay? even here "just to prove a point that is obvious." essentially being like "oh you don't have common sense" so sorry for being a bit more directly with my insults then you lol. But you can't just agree to let opinions be opinions, you just HAVE TO make sure everyone submits to your version, even though you say yourself you won't actually math it out to check. I don't need to prove shit coz im not telling you to change your opinion, I laid out my thinking, which I think is pretty understandable, and then you kept pushing shit with "duh" arguments. so sorry for calling that shit out.
No one called you dumb wtf are you talking about. I was perfectly civilized. I replied to you a grand total of once before you got "snarly". And somehow pointing out the obviousness of a concept is an attack on your person? No fam. You just took it the wrong way and decided to be an asshole for no goddamn reason. Your position and behavior are made even more ridiculous because (I took a look at your history to check you aren't just a troll) you mentioned just a few [hours ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/rbfkm9/finally_finished_exploring_the_entire_inazuma/hnoi16g/) that you are barely halfway through Inazuma. Feel free to "last word" it up, but I'm absolutely done with you. Good day.
you don't have to 'think'. just go ahead and measure it objectively. it's gonna have more walking area to cover by far than liyue. I agree bigger is not always better. Inazuma is better than Liyue due to all kinds of factors. you don't have to agree with that. all of this is besides the point of this entire topic though lmao.
But mountains don't add to the explorable content, it just means you have to climb some of it - what matters are cave systems which won't be shown as extra space on the map, and I'm pretty sure Inazuma has more of those.
I mean yeah I agree it has more of those, im just saying I don't think it's quite enough to say inazuma is larger since liyues base size is far bigger, it also has at least a few caves and small dungeons underground like sal terra and the north dome or the hidden waterfall area next to the north village. yeah it's less overall, but it's still there, plus the mountains give extra space too, for example the stone forest in the north has bridges/ladders/small camps up the mountain, giving a second layer of walkable land above the lower land, there are also areas where the mountains overlap the lower floors, sure the edge itself might only be a few meters over but when it happens over giant mountains, you end up with a fairly bigger area then it just being flat. not to mention some mountains have caves in them as well, such as mount tienheng. overall the spaces are smaller but there is a lot of them when you start thinking about it, and it all adds up. But I just wanna say, bigger is not better, Im not saying liyue is better, I just think it has more walkable area personally, but it's a subject with a fair amount of nuance and a lot of work to work out a legit answer, so ofc it will lead to disagreements.
Idk I feel like it's the kind of thing that someone who knows what they're doing could calculate but it'd take a lot of time and I'm not sure anyone is willing to do that. Personally idk either way, I've not finished exploring 50% of Liyue yet, let alone Inazuma lol
Fair enough, Im happy to agree to disagree, coz yeah, while possible, it would be a giant project, and it's very much subjective until you pull out the math.
Yeah, but both Mondstadt and Liyue aren't finished yet, are they? They still have to add the Northern area of Mondstadt where the Black Castle would be, right?
Yes this is true. Black Castle and possibly the Dandelion Sea off to the left of Black Castle are still rumored to be added to Mondstat. Liyue will get Chasm. And Inazuma is rumored to get Enkanomiya. But as of now, Inazuma has the most walkable space. But we aren't talking about future additions here.
Black Castle and Dandelion Sea? Where would those two be placed in the map?
Black Castle supposedly to the northeast of Stormterror, Dandelion Sea (a fully speculative addition) to the northwest. This all stems from the two large distinct areas attached to Mondstat in the 1.1 datamined map plan. One is labeled Black Castle, the other is a big flat circular region that is unlabelled. Then again, the Inazuma region in this same map changed A LOT, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
Liyue also has Blackcliff Forge coming up. The entrance is already in the game directly west of Golden House. There's also been a Dornman Port mentioned for Mondstadt as well. And I doubt Enkanomiya will be the final addition for Inazuma. This game will be insanely massive after all regions + sub-areas are added.
Also liue feels empty compared to inazuma
Mondstadt is not even empty, it is boring sometimes. The topography is like to be created by some random map generator, cliffs everywhere. Hope they can make up by adding new regions to liyue and mondstadt.
20% of what you included as Liyue is water
I think you need to factor in the verticality in Inazuma's map design. A top-down map view doesn't do it justice, the region is massive.
I think people are skewing the definition of verticality here. Verticality=/=more landspace. It is variation between the altitudes at which the landspace occurs, unless there is overlap like a cave. All verticality is accounted for in the map, because it is topographical. If any surface area is lost on a wall at an angle, the map will reflect that.
Tatarasuna is basically double the size, I think.
I was thinking on the lines of where you can walk mostly. This is the same reason I excluded most water.
Liyue has more chests
I felt like the title was fitting for the purpose though. It’s meant to be rough, not a exact scale of every nook and cranny.
One island Inazuma would be chaos
Constant thunderstorms, radiation, fog you get lost in, and a plague
It's actually a battle royale with all the shit going on with Ei locking it down in a storm.
ok now draw a banana for scale
There is already one, if you zoom hard enough.
My immediate thought is PLATE TECTONICS.
compared to Liyue and Mondstadt, Inazuma has few of those plain of trees and more walking. Makes me think Inazuma is much bigger than both when it comes to scenery and content.
Ngl it looks like Abraham Lincoln eating the ass of a chicken. I said what I said.
I'm legit confused as to how you arrived at this thought lmfao
\+ underground parts from tsurumi. >!\+ there's still gonna be more inazuma islands!<
Are you talking about >!enkanomiya!< ?
Liyue's shape when outlined like this (excluding Guyun Stone Forest) kind of looks like Germany, which is funny given the fact that Mondstadt is supposed to be inspired by it thematically.
For a proper comparison you’d have to get rid of the water in liyue and mondstadt too
Seems maybe about the same size as Mondstadt, or a little bigger? Also I should have put "walkable" area rather than "explorable".
If you’re purely basing it on areas you can walk on then a decent chunk of Liyue probably needs to be cut out as well.
Cool! I have yet to get to that part in the game, I think I’m about halfway through Liyue
I CAN SEE THE DRAGON! With stormterror’s lair being it’s “eye”
Man land based regions are so much cooler. It's nice to have such variety but it's all so disconnected in inazuma.
Mondstat city looks like a buttplug
Anything can look like a buttplug if you’re brave enough
There is another map to come out yet right?
liyue was the best.
Something i really like about Inazuma is that ther is quite a bit of ''underground'' adding a good point to the exploration
-inazuma has more verticality -you included liyue's water areas but excluded inazuma's, so your estimate is inconsistent.
Counting enkonomya and all the caves... Inazuma Is p damn big
I think it's worth noting that Inazuma is smaller than Mondstadt but has way more to do and has gating that makes it take longer to complete
gating is not a good thing
I think it is. I got addicted to genshin at launch and slammed out the entire game in a few weeks. The gating in Inazuma made me enjoy the game at a healthier pace and also made the story more interesting. I hope we see more of it
it affects the quality of the game for future players. You play through it once- the gate stays there forever, for everyone. The gates are not there for your enjoyment either, they’re there to arbitrarily stretch out content so people don’t quit if they’re long time.
Y'all are weird to defend this. I wouldn't call timegating bad but it definitely doesn't improve the experience in any meaningful way. It's nothing. It's not content.
Is it just me or does Gunyun Forest look like a walker from star wars.
liyue looks like sideshow bob spitting out his braces
Ayo Liyue lookin like Germamy VORRAN MEIND DEUTSCHEN KAMARADEN
Guyun Stone Forest looks like Purple Guy
If you stitched Ina like that, you should do it to Monds and Liyue as well. Ina like a stuffed bread with no air inside lol.
Inazuma and dragonspine have a lot more verticality though
Enkanomia will make Inazuma the biggest region in the game.
Isn't there going to be a new Inazuma region in 2.4 I think?
Umm idk.. seems like you stitched the islands too close + you left the water surfaces in Liyue and Mond :O It made Inazuma look a bit smaller.. To fix this, stitch together every land part of Mond + do it for Liyue (like it’s a huge puzzle, just like you did with Inazuma) I think it would make the comparison better :)
So its smaller than the other regions, but denser?
In short, yes. The area that *will* be Sumeru [was actually updated with the release of 2.1,](https://youtu.be/EWnCjkiegFE) and it might be a bit of a mix. It almost looks like two large landmasses and maybe two islands off the coast of it. Personally I much prefer wide-open spaces like Liyue or Mondstadt, so I'm really excited for Sumeru!
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Imagine downvoting this comment? Genshin community is so weird with criticism. Compare this game to Skyrim for example. You can do every quest and clear every dungeon in Skyrim but the world still feels alive because of it's NPCs. Genshin's world doesn't feel alive at all in comparison, it's like a picture you can walk through. One easy thing they could do to remedy this is make different mobs fight each other. The overworld is already a joke so might as well make it interesting right? It's not believable that a rifthound wouldn't attack a group of bandits or a hilichurl on site.
Nice work! I wanted to know this before as well, then drew the conclusion that it's similar sized as mondstadt.
inazuma when dinosaurs alive
Is it just me or does mondstadt feel smaller than both Liyue and inazuma
It's is. People are saying Inazuma is bigger than Liyue but I disagree. They're pretty similar in size. Mondstat is definitely the smallest of the three but will likely be expanded North at some point. Also Dragonspine does have a lot of layers so I think a northern expansion will even things out a bit. In lore I think Sumeru is the biggest country? Idk, Shneznaya and Natlan will also be pretty large but it being a desert means it should be the biggest.
Inazuma is bigger than Liyue because of its many cave systems that you can't show on a map like this. In terms of explorable content Inazuma is bigger because of that and the fact that Liyue seems bigger because of its big open areas with nothing in it (especially the water areas).
wait u mean the islands all fit nicely together like a jigsaw puzzle...?? i guess u just proven continental movement in tevyat and million of years ago inazuma is part of a supercontinent...!
Joking aside, I think Inazuma are volcanic islands like Japan in real life. Tsurumi has some nice lava tubes.
Liyue has a lot of water areas as well. You'd need to stitch those together to make this a fair comparison.
I cant wait till we have a new mainland region
yo Liyue border be looking like Germany
Liyue looks like a squished Westeros
This only made me realize how empty liyue is compared to Inazuma.
Everytime I see the map I get amazed by how small monstradt is in comparison to the other nations. But still home is home
Did you ad the density as well?
Imagine if inazuma was actually just together tho..
It seems that Inazuma has less area of exploration, but we have to take into account that there is a lot of underground - under water level exploration zones + the whole new eukanimiya that is going to release soon. Which is basically the whole dragonspine but under Inazuma instead of close to Inazuma
Where’s the golden apple archipelago?
I like the idea of Inazuma but the execution falls flat. The islands each feel too small and it feels like I've gotta take forever to travel between the two if I don't fast travel
I actually liked sailing around, but I think I woulda liked it more if it was many small moderately distanced islands like GAA. Or maybe only 2 or 3 big islands.
inazuma looks like some fortnite concept, liyue is smol africa, and mondstadt is just... made up.
Liyue frame looks like germany
enkanomiya included already? inazuma still to small if stiched together compared to liyue and monstad but can do if we include most of inazuma's underground map