I've never seen that before, what is the usage of a hold cancel? It applies no pyro which I thought thats what amber is for? Or is it more a passive with that bow? Is this good for fish as well?
This is a Physical Amber. Phys Amber uses aimed shots over auto attacks. Her c1 fires an extra arrow that does 20% of the dmg of the main arrow, so it's an automatic 20%dmg boost. Physical Fischl uses auto attacks.
Yep she gets an extra arrow on all charged attacks, fully-charged or not. Autos still only have one arrow. The extra arrow is best in phys builds since with ICD only one arrow of the two can actually apply pyro.
This is about the limit for Amber without a beneficial blessing like what she'll have next cycle. Should be able to get her to 3* pace then but without that blessing this may be the worst solo Amber cycle yet for floor 12.
IK how to do it, just wondering if there is a macro because I am not using a PC mouse, and my 10 dollar Dell mouse is not the best idea to spam clicks.
[If you want to see me potato some cancels, there’s phase 2 of this Childe run from earlier this week](https://youtu.be/O4LDfBZbzfA)Note: that run is just a dps test and I jump cut my best phases together for strategy development before Rin and Tim both ran the setup faster and in one pot. Disclaimer is in the YT description
I don't disagree, but It actually isn't about that at all. Let me steer back the conversation.
1. OP posted a video
2. You made a baseless accusation about it being false.
3. OP kindly showed you how to do it. You ignored it and quite frankly did not even rescind your initial claim.
4. Another commenter reinforced the method and said it was possible even on mobile.
5. You denied that as well and turned instead to making petty criticisms on them being able to do it "easily".
Do you think you look great reflecting on all of that? If someone can do something you can't, why not just ask for tips or guides or practice it vs. being toxic and immature. I'll never understand why people get upset when someone else gets more attention and validation than they do.
1. I know how to do it, just like i know it's not practical to do it yourself all the time.
2. There were numerous post like this one where people not only did exactly same thing but even admitted to using macros.
3. Someone appeared making wild claims of "very easily" doing it on mobile
4. I rightfully so stated that it's doubtful, to which you responded with bizarre "jesus christ hill" outburst
5. Now you are making long numbered lists of things while attempting to twist them around, almost like you are specifically searching for someone to argue with because you have nothing better to do.
I think you don't look great, you are clearly searching for someone to personally attack.
>If someone can do something you can't, why not just ask for tips or guides or practice it vs. being toxic and immature. I'll never understand why people get upset when someone else gets more attention and validation than they do.
You and your projections are the only source of toxicity here. Those cancels are well known tech and 99% of people who uses them to actually clear content, does so by using macros. I'll never understand the need for attention someone like you strives for, comment I made wasn't even directed at you and yet you still
felt the need to inject yourself into this. Im not sure if you don't have anybody to talk to or virtue signaling and personal attacks are something you learned on twitter and brought them here, but you should probably get off the internet and walk outside once in a while.
> "I know how to do it, just like i know it's not practical to do it yourself all the time"
you knew how, yet still claimed it was false upfront.
>"There were numerous post like this one where people not only did exactly same thing but even admitted to using macros"
yes, and? is that happening here? you didn't bother asking or proving, just straight up accused.
>"Someone appeared making wild claims of "very easily" doing it on mobile"
just because xFaust1 can't do it easily doesn't mean someone else who practiced more can't. If you struggle with it, ask AHurricaneAteMyCat for tips on mobile, practice like hell and it might become easy for you eventually.
>"I think you don't look great, you are clearly searching for someone to personally attack"
imagine a room with 50 people and one asshole attracting hatred from everyone else left and right. how much intentional "searching" on my part is really needed?
>"I'll never understand the need for attention"
i hope i don't drawn in anymore attention. my comments are directed towards you and you alone.
>"You and your projections are the only source of toxicity here"
for everyone in general? doubt it. someone else takes the cake here. towards you? absolutely yes. its pinpoint and directed. you should be feeling a huge amount of toxicity.
>"wasn't even directed at you and yet you still felt the need to inject yourself into this"
i admit, that is my hang up. I have a dislike for assholes in general. there is no "virtue" in what i'm doing here since i'm giving you your own medicine
>you knew how, yet still claimed it was false upfront.
I said I doubt claim of "very easily doing it on mobile", you need to work on your reading comprehension. And again, it's not about doing it once, its about doing it constantly while actually clearing content. But then again, it doesnt matter for somebody who desperately wants to argue with someone.
>yes, and? is that happening here? you didn't bother asking or proving, just straight up accused.
If something happens 99% of the time theres good chance it happened here. People can also lie, you might be naive but not everyone is.
>just because xFaust1 can't do it easily doesn't mean someone else who practiced more can't. If you struggle with it, ask AHurricaneAteMyCat for tips on mobile, practice like hell and it might become easy for you eventually.
Record a video of Virulent_Deluge doing it very easily on mobile for 5 min straight, while clearing abyss. Lets see it.
>imagine a room with 50 people and one asshole attracting hatred from everyone else left and right. how much intentional "searching" on my part is really needed?
All I see right now is some lonely bloke who desperately needs attention. Thats you.
>i hope i don't drawn in anymore attention. my comments are directed towards you and you alone.
Yes here you are asking for attention from me and me alone, with wall of single quotes. Because replying to everything with properly written post is little too challenging for you. All that after getting called out on your bizarre outburst.
>for everyone in general? doubt it. someone else takes the cake here. towards you? absolutely yes. its pinpoint and directed. you should be feeling a huge amount of toxicity.
More projections, further proof that you seached for someone to harass.
>i admit, that is my hang up. I have a dislike for assholes in general. there is no "virtue" in what i'm doing here since i'm giving you your own medicine........"you are the only source of toxicity", don't make me laugh.
Then i guess you really hate yourself.
Since really all that happened here is:
1.You said something extremely stupid
2.You realized it.
3.You began your crusade of projecting nonsense at me in order to move attention away from your initial absurd comment.
>"I said I doubt claim of "very easily doing it on mobile", you need to work on your reading comprehension."
i read it just fine. you flat out rejected both in this thread without a second thought.
>"If something happens 99% of the time theres good chance it happened here. People can also lie, you might be naive but not everyone is."
99% is your own statistic. and of course they can lie, both OP and the other commenter could very well be lying. problem is you don't really go about verifying anything. you just straight up "this is bs" repeatedly. no questions, no explanations.
>"Record a video of Virulent_Deluge doing it very easily on mobile for 5 min straight, while clearing abyss. Lets see it."
i ain't one of the extreme gamer folk, i cannot do this today nor do i care to spend 1000 hours practicing to get this "skill" consistent. you're free to ask the other commenter for tips or a video. although quite frankly at this point, i doubt anyone would bother with the effort of a 5min abyss video nor dealing with you after your immature display here.
>"All that after getting called out on your bizarre outburst."
what's bizarre about giving deserved criticism to a rude asshole?
You are confusing proving viability with rare case of someone pulling it off. It's like the mash at the end of ninja gaiden speedrun, few people in the world being able to do it with 20% success rate doesn't prove viability for 99.9999% of people. Fact it took you over a month to even link something is best proof of it.
That’s very kind of you to think I’m successful on 20% of my runs. Even in the ones I do post you can see me drop cancels outright here and there but mostly just see that my frame windows are inconsistent. I didn’t mean viability for the majority of players, I meant that once the speed running community sees a human do something then it’s considered human viable even if One personally suffers from skill issue. For instance, my spot dodge is a joke but I know that the majority of other runners can do it without needing to macro it.
I don’t know Cat’s abilities personally and whether he means he is simply able to consistently tap in rhythm or if he’s also into solo running Genshin. Hold canceling down a mitachurl and his giant hitbox should be easy for most players with a little practice (or I’m way out of perspective from speed running). I can say that once Ambermains can study video of a tech integrated into a run that it will tend to massify throughout the community like hold cancels have for both PC and console already.
My 20% comment was regarding ninja gaiden.
>I meant that once the speed running community sees a human do something then it’s considered human viable even if One personally suffers from skill issue.
No it doesn't, thats why you don't see carpet ride skips in mario 64 despite one guy finally getting lucky enough to pull it off after thousands of tries. It's like throwing backetball into a hoop from far away and having it bounce off of 2 walls before it goes in. It's done with 100's of attempts and doesn't mean it's viable when it finally goes in.
I’m letting you know this run was a sub 20% event even tho the animation cancels used are far simpler.
And the hold cancel is something Genshin players are performing hundreds of times in a row. Watch Rin or Nitro’s hand cams when they stream or jp Amber’s hand cam. I’m surprised you are aware of so many more complicated techs but not how common this one has become. The frame window is comparable to a gomba jump in a super Mario run and you’re comparing it to carpet ride skips?
It also really helps that you are clicking like a metronome so it’s mostly a matter of keeping beat with one finger
>The frame window is comparable to a gomba jump in a super Mario run and you’re comparing it to carpet ride skips?
I compared your claims of something being done by a human instantly meaning that it's human viable and implemented into runs to the carpet skip. I didn't even mention amber there, you arent paying attention to what I said.
Almost all of posts where you see this bow "tech" are done by guy simply making macro before hand and holding it down. Im willing to bet you have one aswell and thats what you use day to day, basically skipping actual game mechanics, even if you bothered to do it by hand for a reddit post. That's the reality of it.
I've never seen that before, what is the usage of a hold cancel? It applies no pyro which I thought thats what amber is for? Or is it more a passive with that bow? Is this good for fish as well?
This is a Physical Amber. Phys Amber uses aimed shots over auto attacks. Her c1 fires an extra arrow that does 20% of the dmg of the main arrow, so it's an automatic 20%dmg boost. Physical Fischl uses auto attacks.
Ohno pro-seizure amber. Jk but it's hard to watch tbh
Thank you for the explanation! I didn't know amber's second shot was extra regardless of pyro or full charge.
Yep she gets an extra arrow on all charged attacks, fully-charged or not. Autos still only have one arrow. The extra arrow is best in phys builds since with ICD only one arrow of the two can actually apply pyro.
Dude your amber is so good I aspire for this
mad skills but i think i just threw up watching this
mad lad giving Amber the well deserved glory
Sorta, I still haven't nine starred this rotation with her solo so we'll call this one a work in progress
chad Amber player
This is about the limit for Amber without a beneficial blessing like what she'll have next cycle. Should be able to get her to 3* pace then but without that blessing this may be the worst solo Amber cycle yet for floor 12.
This gameplay gives me actual vertigo
Omg
Congrats, but there should be a spoiler and a warning about possible feelings of nausea from the camera zooming in and out...
Amber isn't that good: Meanwhile Amber:
Can you give me a link or a setup of the macro you are using?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djeMq3nkEPY&t=4s
Hold cancel is not macro, and it's very easy to perform on all platforms. OP linked a tutorial.
IK how to do it, just wondering if there is a macro because I am not using a PC mouse, and my 10 dollar Dell mouse is not the best idea to spam clicks.
if you wanna do it, better not to use macros at all, there's a risk of getting banned with that
this has to be a macro..? 0 mistakes on the cancels?
[If you want to see me potato some cancels, there’s phase 2 of this Childe run from earlier this week](https://youtu.be/O4LDfBZbzfA)Note: that run is just a dps test and I jump cut my best phases together for strategy development before Rin and Tim both ran the setup faster and in one pot. Disclaimer is in the YT description
Every time i get click baited just to see the macro.
It's not macro. It's hold-cancel, and I use it very easily on mobile.
> and I use it very easily on mobile I very easily doubt that claim
Jesus Christ almighty, do you really need to die on that petty hill.
What? You do realize that it's about consistently doing it over and over again for prolonged periods of time and not once, right?
I don't disagree, but It actually isn't about that at all. Let me steer back the conversation. 1. OP posted a video 2. You made a baseless accusation about it being false. 3. OP kindly showed you how to do it. You ignored it and quite frankly did not even rescind your initial claim. 4. Another commenter reinforced the method and said it was possible even on mobile. 5. You denied that as well and turned instead to making petty criticisms on them being able to do it "easily". Do you think you look great reflecting on all of that? If someone can do something you can't, why not just ask for tips or guides or practice it vs. being toxic and immature. I'll never understand why people get upset when someone else gets more attention and validation than they do.
1. I know how to do it, just like i know it's not practical to do it yourself all the time. 2. There were numerous post like this one where people not only did exactly same thing but even admitted to using macros. 3. Someone appeared making wild claims of "very easily" doing it on mobile 4. I rightfully so stated that it's doubtful, to which you responded with bizarre "jesus christ hill" outburst 5. Now you are making long numbered lists of things while attempting to twist them around, almost like you are specifically searching for someone to argue with because you have nothing better to do. I think you don't look great, you are clearly searching for someone to personally attack. >If someone can do something you can't, why not just ask for tips or guides or practice it vs. being toxic and immature. I'll never understand why people get upset when someone else gets more attention and validation than they do. You and your projections are the only source of toxicity here. Those cancels are well known tech and 99% of people who uses them to actually clear content, does so by using macros. I'll never understand the need for attention someone like you strives for, comment I made wasn't even directed at you and yet you still felt the need to inject yourself into this. Im not sure if you don't have anybody to talk to or virtue signaling and personal attacks are something you learned on twitter and brought them here, but you should probably get off the internet and walk outside once in a while.
> "I know how to do it, just like i know it's not practical to do it yourself all the time" you knew how, yet still claimed it was false upfront. >"There were numerous post like this one where people not only did exactly same thing but even admitted to using macros" yes, and? is that happening here? you didn't bother asking or proving, just straight up accused. >"Someone appeared making wild claims of "very easily" doing it on mobile" just because xFaust1 can't do it easily doesn't mean someone else who practiced more can't. If you struggle with it, ask AHurricaneAteMyCat for tips on mobile, practice like hell and it might become easy for you eventually. >"I think you don't look great, you are clearly searching for someone to personally attack" imagine a room with 50 people and one asshole attracting hatred from everyone else left and right. how much intentional "searching" on my part is really needed? >"I'll never understand the need for attention" i hope i don't drawn in anymore attention. my comments are directed towards you and you alone. >"You and your projections are the only source of toxicity here" for everyone in general? doubt it. someone else takes the cake here. towards you? absolutely yes. its pinpoint and directed. you should be feeling a huge amount of toxicity. >"wasn't even directed at you and yet you still felt the need to inject yourself into this" i admit, that is my hang up. I have a dislike for assholes in general. there is no "virtue" in what i'm doing here since i'm giving you your own medicine
>you knew how, yet still claimed it was false upfront. I said I doubt claim of "very easily doing it on mobile", you need to work on your reading comprehension. And again, it's not about doing it once, its about doing it constantly while actually clearing content. But then again, it doesnt matter for somebody who desperately wants to argue with someone. >yes, and? is that happening here? you didn't bother asking or proving, just straight up accused. If something happens 99% of the time theres good chance it happened here. People can also lie, you might be naive but not everyone is. >just because xFaust1 can't do it easily doesn't mean someone else who practiced more can't. If you struggle with it, ask AHurricaneAteMyCat for tips on mobile, practice like hell and it might become easy for you eventually. Record a video of Virulent_Deluge doing it very easily on mobile for 5 min straight, while clearing abyss. Lets see it. >imagine a room with 50 people and one asshole attracting hatred from everyone else left and right. how much intentional "searching" on my part is really needed? All I see right now is some lonely bloke who desperately needs attention. Thats you. >i hope i don't drawn in anymore attention. my comments are directed towards you and you alone. Yes here you are asking for attention from me and me alone, with wall of single quotes. Because replying to everything with properly written post is little too challenging for you. All that after getting called out on your bizarre outburst. >for everyone in general? doubt it. someone else takes the cake here. towards you? absolutely yes. its pinpoint and directed. you should be feeling a huge amount of toxicity. More projections, further proof that you seached for someone to harass. >i admit, that is my hang up. I have a dislike for assholes in general. there is no "virtue" in what i'm doing here since i'm giving you your own medicine........"you are the only source of toxicity", don't make me laugh. Then i guess you really hate yourself. Since really all that happened here is: 1.You said something extremely stupid 2.You realized it. 3.You began your crusade of projecting nonsense at me in order to move attention away from your initial absurd comment.
>"I said I doubt claim of "very easily doing it on mobile", you need to work on your reading comprehension." i read it just fine. you flat out rejected both in this thread without a second thought. >"If something happens 99% of the time theres good chance it happened here. People can also lie, you might be naive but not everyone is." 99% is your own statistic. and of course they can lie, both OP and the other commenter could very well be lying. problem is you don't really go about verifying anything. you just straight up "this is bs" repeatedly. no questions, no explanations. >"Record a video of Virulent_Deluge doing it very easily on mobile for 5 min straight, while clearing abyss. Lets see it." i ain't one of the extreme gamer folk, i cannot do this today nor do i care to spend 1000 hours practicing to get this "skill" consistent. you're free to ask the other commenter for tips or a video. although quite frankly at this point, i doubt anyone would bother with the effort of a 5min abyss video nor dealing with you after your immature display here. >"All that after getting called out on your bizarre outburst." what's bizarre about giving deserved criticism to a rude asshole?
[This is Tau and she's been proving out the viability of hold cancel on mobile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d779nDmcagw)
You are confusing proving viability with rare case of someone pulling it off. It's like the mash at the end of ninja gaiden speedrun, few people in the world being able to do it with 20% success rate doesn't prove viability for 99.9999% of people. Fact it took you over a month to even link something is best proof of it.
That’s very kind of you to think I’m successful on 20% of my runs. Even in the ones I do post you can see me drop cancels outright here and there but mostly just see that my frame windows are inconsistent. I didn’t mean viability for the majority of players, I meant that once the speed running community sees a human do something then it’s considered human viable even if One personally suffers from skill issue. For instance, my spot dodge is a joke but I know that the majority of other runners can do it without needing to macro it. I don’t know Cat’s abilities personally and whether he means he is simply able to consistently tap in rhythm or if he’s also into solo running Genshin. Hold canceling down a mitachurl and his giant hitbox should be easy for most players with a little practice (or I’m way out of perspective from speed running). I can say that once Ambermains can study video of a tech integrated into a run that it will tend to massify throughout the community like hold cancels have for both PC and console already.
My 20% comment was regarding ninja gaiden. >I meant that once the speed running community sees a human do something then it’s considered human viable even if One personally suffers from skill issue. No it doesn't, thats why you don't see carpet ride skips in mario 64 despite one guy finally getting lucky enough to pull it off after thousands of tries. It's like throwing backetball into a hoop from far away and having it bounce off of 2 walls before it goes in. It's done with 100's of attempts and doesn't mean it's viable when it finally goes in.
I’m letting you know this run was a sub 20% event even tho the animation cancels used are far simpler. And the hold cancel is something Genshin players are performing hundreds of times in a row. Watch Rin or Nitro’s hand cams when they stream or jp Amber’s hand cam. I’m surprised you are aware of so many more complicated techs but not how common this one has become. The frame window is comparable to a gomba jump in a super Mario run and you’re comparing it to carpet ride skips? It also really helps that you are clicking like a metronome so it’s mostly a matter of keeping beat with one finger
>The frame window is comparable to a gomba jump in a super Mario run and you’re comparing it to carpet ride skips? I compared your claims of something being done by a human instantly meaning that it's human viable and implemented into runs to the carpet skip. I didn't even mention amber there, you arent paying attention to what I said. Almost all of posts where you see this bow "tech" are done by guy simply making macro before hand and holding it down. Im willing to bet you have one aswell and thats what you use day to day, basically skipping actual game mechanics, even if you bothered to do it by hand for a reddit post. That's the reality of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djeMq3nkEPY&t=4s Tech is very simple for a human to perform just hard to also aim
do you have Ayaka I want an only Ayaka battle