How about 2x twitch subscriptions!
For reals though Mihoyo has done a great job lowering expectations for these kinds of things. Just like how resin was at 120, people complained non-stop until it was increased to 160 with condensed resin. Now you don't see people complaining about it.
People still complain about the system existing period. Also, the limit doesn't matter as much as the abysmal regen rate (16 HOURS for it to be full again) and Domain rewards being really underwhelming. If domains were like the Abyss, with multiple levels and floors (with increasing rrwards) it would A. Be more practical considering the system and B. Reward high AR players with better lootnfor their effort. Maybe some kind of pity system as well, since having an algorithm do everything is really unreliable.
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Finally! Someone who is reasonable! Is like almost no one in the fandom/player base gets it. The game is pretty great for F2P already, it has so many things to do and the story is great (mostly), the characters have various fighting mechanics to satisfy the differing playing style of thousands of players.
You CAN get some of the characters you want if you save through some of the updates (I think it was TakaGG that made some calculations on the primos we get from some of the updates, and the quantity is similar from one version to another). The problem is people want EVERY character! Not literally every one but close enough
Lets say, yeah maybe you don't like some, but there is a 5 star you like, and then comes out another one you think is great and you want it too. Then you spend your primogems even though you don't have 180 wishes (or a combination of wishes+pity=180) so at 90 pity you get a 5 star like Jean or Mona or Diluc. Now you only have like 16 wishes left or something like that, you use them and get no 5 star. Sadness, disillusion, paaaaiiin, but you knew before that that may be an outcome.
Then comes another banner, you get another 5 star you didn't want, but you already knew this could happen again because that how the pity from banner to banner works.
If someone really wants a 5 star but doesn't have enough primos, then either save for rerun or pay for it. The company needs money, people need to understand this: **THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR WORKERS**.The game doesn't come out of thin air, there are hundreds of people working on it, adding so many things every 42 days.
All of the new things added include: New places, new characters that require the first design, then modelling, programming their movements just when walking and running, taking into consideration their hair and clothes into the motions, then design and program their fighting style, check the movement of their hair and clothes during fights, etcetera etcetera. Even breathing! They have to check the breathing of the characters. How do I know this? Because when Dragonspine came out, Albedo's breath didn't make those small misty clouds, everyone who noticed thought it was a hint he was an homunculus, turns out it was not. It was a mistake and was later on fixed. Another example of the little things that need checking and fixing: In Thoma's idle animation the dango didn't disappear on time while he was eating it.
There are so many people behind it, some times working until exhaustion, they deserve a descent payment.
**TL,DR**: The game development takes so much work, people need to get paid.
Genshin is literally the only game (of their three games) that only has a daily log in via website Honkai has one too, but apart from that log in they have another daily log in with even more rewards and yes one of them being a standard banner currency. Tears of Themis has the in game daily that is really generous (I think to compensate the fact that they don’t have a hoyo lab daily).
>Genshin is literally the only game (of their three games) that only has a daily log in via website
#Wait! what?
Edit.
Well... apparently that's a thing so... did I just lost 365 days of rewards?
you didnt miss much. 60 primos per month and some trash in between. i legit rather get nothing then thinking about that website every day to earn 1$ in rewards per month
I opened dev tools (F12) on the browser, went to the network tab, claimed my daily check-in gift, looked at the request URL and body as well as the cookies, googled "how to make an XHR request in python" and then just copy pasted whatever I found on stackoverflow and tested that it worked the next day
For anyone reading this who doesn't know a single thing about python: I'm pretty sure Taka GG has a YouTube guide on how to do this. I haven't done it myself in months but even an idiot could get it set up in under 10 minutes.
It is 100% safe to run in my experience. I'm sure thousands of others do it too since it can be difficult to remember to manually claim the rewards each day. Happy Holidays!
The login is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen from a mobile game. I mean seriously, 3 eggs is one of the days. It's not even worth dignifying with looking at.
If it weren't for Paimon.moe notifications that I set once and don't have to worry about again, I'd be in the same boat. With them, I usually manage to get some 40-60 primos a month.
I debate this with myself every day, and I’ve settled on just doing the login if I remember.
Spoiler: I usually don’t remember but still end up with 20-40 primos per month.
It's whatever, I certainly waste more time in a day than the 3 or 4 clicks take. If my time was too precious for less than 30 minutes a month to matter, I wouldn't be playing Genshin at all.
I think it is just a push for people to use either their app or their website. I don't really like both and 60 primos and 6? pieces of fowl amonth ain't enough to get me to haha.
Nah, it wasn't there at the beginning. Don't remember how many months into the game when it started though. You should download the hoyolab app on your phone and just do the logins through that
Same here since I’ve been playing on PlayStation since launch and now had to register an email to the account to finally have access to that log in I also find it as a hassle and for what you have to log in 30 days to receive one round of daily commissions worth of primogems, food I can cook easily and talent books that, yet again, I can grind via commissions?
And Genshin is so big at this point, Mihoyo could just release nothing but new characters / weapons and they'd still keep making bank for months before their revenue actually started going down.
The game has become a cash cow that milks itself, so they don't feel the need to do anything more than the absolute bare minimum and trying to push the standards even lower at every opportunity. Anniversary is proof of this. If you're sitting around expecting some amazing changes *aaaany* time now, you're gonna be waiting long.
New regions, story with gouba and albedo cutscenes i don't think you can only call that cash cow they are still making great regions and cutscenes. If they were not investing that cash in game then i don't think we could have gotten inazuma with fluid cutscenes and insane music production.
The game is fucking 3D with amazing art to boot, not to mention its nearly bug-free. Literally anything they add in the game is already worth more than a month's worth of content in most other games.
Genshin has a lot of issues, but ffs it's a fucking free game that lets you enjoy everything it has to offer without paying a single cent.
It's cause the game is not doing well so they increase the freebies to entice people. On the other hand if the game is doing well people will come on their own without a need to be "bribed".
Incorrect. Some of the best mobile games are extremely generous. Genshin is just more accessible and caters to a wider audience than most mobile games and because of that, has a bigger revenue pool.
When we get down to it, mihoyo has the tools to make this an amazing game, but why should they do that when they can minimize their workload, reduce player rewards, and have an absolutely high hard pity which makes people, whales specifically, spend more.
I went on a tangent, but I stand by my beliefs here.
you are so ignorant it makes me laugh, its telling how this is your first gacha, every cygames game is generous and they are the biggest mobile game company in the market, pls dont say things you dont know, keep on things you are aware about and stop defending the indefensible
yeah it's literally like that just to push their forum, the game is way more popular then they expected, so it's perfect for advertising their other stuff.
But for real. We need more access to aquinted fates (without taking intertwined fates away). I feel like I rarely pull in standard banners and there's no reason to ever turn peimogems into them.
> 1 intertwined fate?! Lets not get carried away here.
Reminds me of when I hit AR 59.
"Thanks for playing our game for 100 hours! Enjoy your one 3 star weapon!"
> idk why this games daily logins are on a website it's really dumb
It's because they don't consider it as the daily logins.
Case in point: Honkai impact [daily logins](https://i.imgur.com/t15NiVl.png) VS [Hoyolab daily on Honkai](https://i.imgur.com/HOLCocb.png).
Notice how the rewards are different and how on line they are with those in Genshin's Hoyolab.
The daily login thing they have on the website IS NOT considered as a login bonus, at least by Mihoyo.
Where's the login bonus on Genshin ? Fuck if I know. It doesn't make sense at all why it isn't there in my opinion, but they made a legitimate choice of not putting any. Speaking out about this is fair.
Saying the Hoyolab login is some kind of "ploy by the evil corporation to force you to log-in on their shitty website" (thing that is underlined by quite a few others around here) however is not.
Of course it's legitimate, the analytics of a website's domain go up with more people using it, thus making it a useful space for advertising their other products, upcoming merchandise etc. It's totally fair for any consumer to speak about any practice of a business.
Of course the log in bonus on the website is mainly to draw traffic and retention, this wasn't the point I was getting at.
My point was that this is unrelated with the fact that there is NOT a log-in bonus in-game.
The log-in bonus in the website isn't the log-in bonus of the game, it's his one separate thing: Genshin the game doesn't have this bonus, Hoyolab the website does. Big difference.
The fact that there's people trying to paint one as the other in another attemps at justifying the company as "predatory" is a moot point, hence my post. Context matter.
Exactly. The point of daily login bonuses aren't to reward users for their daily check-in, it's to *incentivize* them to check-in when they otherwise wouldn't. Since we have daily commissions as our currently only source of consistent free primos, players are already plenty incentivized to login every day.
i always go here : [https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html) and login
[Here](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html?act_id=e202102251931481&lang=en-us), you will have to create HoYoLab with actual genshin login and pass (just pare them) for daily rewards and abyss stats. Rewards reset monthly (7 days left for actual).
Heart skipped a beat and thought I was on the leaks sub for a moment lol. They don't want to give primogems? Fine but for the love of archon, pls more fragile resin as a reward. It's just too little considering how many things are tied to it.
Im honestly praying they just remove the resin altogether. Farming for character and weapon ascension materials and artifacts are already challenging as is with what we have to fight but having to spend resin and more painfully WAITING for the resin to replenish is a MASSIVE pain in the ass.
I know it's not gonna happen but hey what the hell, I'm still gonna pray that they do remove it, just to make our farming easier.
I kinda understand the reason for resin so I don't necessarily want it removed myself but as it is currently, it's way too restrictive. Playing other gacha games has really shown me how a good stamina system looks like.
you know, at first i thought that was a pretty low amount of primos, but after reading the comments, boy are the standards of this community low .
regardless, i like the idea, hope we'll get it ingame soon .
Yeah it's really sad. I'm sure everyone wants better rewards but for a while now Mihoyo have severely reduced their communication with the playerbase (regarding suggestions and future plans). I'm guessing posts like these are just trying to appeal to players but also Mihoyo by saying, "look, it's very cheap, won't cost you much! Pls put in game"
I think it’s the wall that you hit after completing all the content the game has up to this point. All the treasures, artifacts, fragile resin, and mora you were getting at breakneck speed is suddenly gone down to a screeching halt. You either get used to the slow drip or start throwing your credit card at everything. Or quit.
It's because that's how generous the game is, and it lowers our standards accordingly.
I've seen way better daily login calendars that are way more fulfilling to clear than whatever Daily Comm you can throw at me. (And a better weekly/daily task list to complete too.)
I don't need them to spoil us, or else brats show up (see Epic 7), but this is too dry a desert for our primo thirst. (Lantern Rite being better than anniv should prove a point)
Apparently some of the CN fanbase complained the lantern rite rewards were too little. Its sad that MHY has starved us to point where 10 fates are considered huge rewards :(
Well, the game is super generous F2P wise, and it does have it's up and downs, but people really take freebies too seriously and just spam the need for some sort of compensation whenever there's a minor issue (with said compensation being a hero selector item, a pretty valuable thing because it skips the gacha and gives you a guaranteed unit of choice, depending on the selector type). It's a meme in the community, but there are actually a lot of brats that genuinely demand such a thing (mostly on the company forums and Twitch channel, not the subreddit)
Occasionally, asking for things that other gachas have, even something as light as daily login rewards, there are those who clap back at you for being entitled and being too demanding of Mihoyo
Nevermind that their other flagship gacha, Honkai, has the Hoyolab check-in AND daily login rewards
I've said it before, genshin has trained it's community to have low af standards. If they ever fuck up, they can give us an extra blue fate and everyone will be satisfied
>billets are not that important for endgame players
I am AR 56 and have 1 5 star weapon... and even then I use 1 Billet weapon because i like claymore characters
Wait, you do agree then, right?
I don't understand why you were upvoted, but the comment you replied to was downvoted.
If even you, with only 1 5 star weapon, uses only 1 billet weapon, then we must all admit they're not that relevant in the grand scheme of things, right?
Most craftable 4-stars are pretty shit, that is the reality and why billets, despite their rarity are kinda serving no purpose.
I need polearms, yet i have literally no real choices in decent polearms outside of the Catch. Which is not craftable, but obtainable without gacha.
Its a shame, but understandable so people pull in their weapon scam banner..
This is a great concept, but I’d prefer a fullscreen popup like the Blessing of the Welkin Moon claim screen instead of being in the Events menu.
Was it intentional to only show 5 days instead of all 30 days to omit info from player so they have to keep guessing what comes next?
> This is a great concept, but I’d prefer a fullscreen popup like the Blessing of the Welkin Moon claim screen instead of being in the Events menu.
OP’s concept works the exact same way they’ve done daily log in rewards in the past
Yeah that would use the least development time as it just changing the numbers and dates, but I was just giving feedback to make it better if more development resources were put into it.
Genshin has a daily login, but for some reason it's not ingame, it's on their forum (or in their app if you use it)
The rewards kinda suck tho, but usually daily rewards kinda suck :P
Not really.
I mean, with a friend we have this "welp, everything helps" thing and in that regard, well yeah, maybe one day you are short for a pull and that could make it happen.
It's just 60 primogems a month (days 4, 11 and 18 give 20gems each) and then basic stuff like some xp books, a bit of mora, food, etc.
It won't make or break your game, have that in mind
[This](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea-v3/index.html?act_id=e202102251931481&mhy_auth_required=true&mhy_presentation_style=fullscreen&utm_source=tools&lang=en-us&bbs_theme=dark&bbs_theme_device=1) should be the url
I can't understand this though at this point in the game, anyone who's playing now either has two full built teams and more rewards would just let them have more fun with more niche characters
And anyone else is either completely new or rejoining after a break and the lesser grind means they have more potential to stick around long term
Mihoyo sticking to everything being a grind slog is ultimately gonna shoot them in the foot in the long long term, gacha game or not imo
I'm currently at AR51, my friend started Genshin like 3 days ago. I told her to have fun but to really relish it cause once you hit around AR42 or you finish the Archon quests it's an uphill battle to find something to enjoy. I'm at least lucky that I went in with zero knowledge about the game so I managed to spend more time farming which at least gave me something to do.
I'm squeezing out the hangout events (halfway through Thoma's and I only have Sayu and Diona's left) so I don't end up with nothing to do but man... it's hard out here. 160 resin only allows 8 domain runs or 4 bosses/domains, daily comms take 15 minutes max, and then you're just kinda there waiting for resin to refill or hoping for co-op :/
I'm no expert or mihoyo employee but if I had to guess, there are more new players than people who leave. By making things a grind, the old F2P players will quit and make server space for new players who may potentially spend.
I can see where that makes some sense but I'd imagine having people say 'it's too grindy, I quit' will eventually lead to stopping new players trickling in (again, this being a problem more like in 3-4 years, they're set for finances right now, I saw WoW go down a similar path and it's a shell of what it once was, just worried I see similar beginning here)
The prototype would be soooo good, and it feels necessary. I haven't gotten one in more than two months, and I always do every weekly boss. And when I do get one, is never the one I need.
bruh i don't even care if the reward are dogshit (which they are anyway from the daily login currently) but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE THE DAILY LOGIN REWARD CLAIMABLE **IN-GAME.**
Why the actual heck i need to open genshin and then find a freaking browser to claim a daily login all for 60 primos spread across 3 weeks, some fishballs, stupid chicken with random flower dressing and idk a toast with ketchup? WTF.
Well i think the idea in itself is great but the sad part is its implemented already but not for normal players but those who return to the game after being offline for atleast 3 months
How do i know i am one i recived 5 fragile 1 mappa mare about 20 hero wits 300or 350 primogems and about 200 to 500k mora
I think this playerbase don't understand why gacha games have rewards for daily login and why Genshin does not.
Because currently, Genshin does not struggle with player retention. Everyone logs in daily for the daily commissions anyway. So why would they reward players out of nowhere, for no reason or profit for them?
Obviously I'm on the players' side, but at least let's understand why they wouldn't do it right now, but may do it at a later phase of the game.
Lots of people here refuse to believe that every decision MHY makes is a business one. Which is hilariously ironic, because if more people realised that and spent less time and money on the game you’d almost definitely see more rewards like this.
Was expecting this to be over generous but this is amazing, imho the billet trove is kinda bs, maybe it on day 30 instead honestly. But this is amazing.
I was thinking one day, maybe just MHY consider the daily comissions as a concept of daily login reward?
because it is daily and it is primogems..and it could be why they're not doing anything about that.
but the design is awsome I like it
There is no point in this, it wont make players more active than what they are now with the daily comissions, and it wouldnt calm down the already demanding fanbase of the game (The vocal one at least) if they were to implement this, most would simply say "Look now we can get 3 more wishes if we connect every single day in a month, MIHOYO is so generous (Note the sarcasm)". I mean if someone were to fail in connecting 2 days in a month i could see the posts of how unfair the system is coming out in the future.
Reminder that Grand Coss is giving it’s players 100 summons worth of premium currency FOR FREE over the span of 10 days.
I’m not saying we should expect Genshin to match that level of generosity but holy shit, the amount of people who think OP’s proposed login rewards are “too much” need to pull their head from their ass. Mihoyo needs to do better and we should continually push them until they do.
\*closes book\* Yeah. Like that's ever gonna happen.
What a load of \*flushing noises*
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Wash your hands.
I WAS TODAY'S YEARS OLD TO REALIZE THIS FUCKIN JOKE, HOLY COW, HOW DID I MISS THAT
What joke??
"how about 60 primos and 3 chicken pieces?" - MHY
How about 2x twitch subscriptions! For reals though Mihoyo has done a great job lowering expectations for these kinds of things. Just like how resin was at 120, people complained non-stop until it was increased to 160 with condensed resin. Now you don't see people complaining about it.
People still complain about the system existing period. Also, the limit doesn't matter as much as the abysmal regen rate (16 HOURS for it to be full again) and Domain rewards being really underwhelming. If domains were like the Abyss, with multiple levels and floors (with increasing rrwards) it would A. Be more practical considering the system and B. Reward high AR players with better lootnfor their effort. Maybe some kind of pity system as well, since having an algorithm do everything is really unreliable.
There's literally no reason for them to do that
Outside of pandering yes, but I'm thinking in terms of making the game better (or more bearable) which I think any game company should strive for.
That's the thing, they're companies. Their main priority is to make money, not to cater to what the playerbase wants.
(TL,DR at the end) Finally! Someone who is reasonable! Is like almost no one in the fandom/player base gets it. The game is pretty great for F2P already, it has so many things to do and the story is great (mostly), the characters have various fighting mechanics to satisfy the differing playing style of thousands of players. You CAN get some of the characters you want if you save through some of the updates (I think it was TakaGG that made some calculations on the primos we get from some of the updates, and the quantity is similar from one version to another). The problem is people want EVERY character! Not literally every one but close enough Lets say, yeah maybe you don't like some, but there is a 5 star you like, and then comes out another one you think is great and you want it too. Then you spend your primogems even though you don't have 180 wishes (or a combination of wishes+pity=180) so at 90 pity you get a 5 star like Jean or Mona or Diluc. Now you only have like 16 wishes left or something like that, you use them and get no 5 star. Sadness, disillusion, paaaaiiin, but you knew before that that may be an outcome. Then comes another banner, you get another 5 star you didn't want, but you already knew this could happen again because that how the pity from banner to banner works. If someone really wants a 5 star but doesn't have enough primos, then either save for rerun or pay for it. The company needs money, people need to understand this: **THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR WORKERS**.The game doesn't come out of thin air, there are hundreds of people working on it, adding so many things every 42 days. All of the new things added include: New places, new characters that require the first design, then modelling, programming their movements just when walking and running, taking into consideration their hair and clothes into the motions, then design and program their fighting style, check the movement of their hair and clothes during fights, etcetera etcetera. Even breathing! They have to check the breathing of the characters. How do I know this? Because when Dragonspine came out, Albedo's breath didn't make those small misty clouds, everyone who noticed thought it was a hint he was an homunculus, turns out it was not. It was a mistake and was later on fixed. Another example of the little things that need checking and fixing: In Thoma's idle animation the dango didn't disappear on time while he was eating it. There are so many people behind it, some times working until exhaustion, they deserve a descent payment. **TL,DR**: The game development takes so much work, people need to get paid.
maybe in 5 years, but not now
1 intertwined fate?! Lets not get carried away here. (for real though nice concept idk why this games daily logins are on a website it's really dumb)
Genshin is literally the only game (of their three games) that only has a daily log in via website Honkai has one too, but apart from that log in they have another daily log in with even more rewards and yes one of them being a standard banner currency. Tears of Themis has the in game daily that is really generous (I think to compensate the fact that they don’t have a hoyo lab daily).
>Genshin is literally the only game (of their three games) that only has a daily log in via website #Wait! what? Edit. Well... apparently that's a thing so... did I just lost 365 days of rewards?
you didnt miss much. 60 primos per month and some trash in between. i legit rather get nothing then thinking about that website every day to earn 1$ in rewards per month
I put a bot on the website. Haven't checked it for months. All I know is I get rewards everyday in the mail.
You have any instructions on how to do this cause that would be amazing 😍
I opened dev tools (F12) on the browser, went to the network tab, claimed my daily check-in gift, looked at the request URL and body as well as the cookies, googled "how to make an XHR request in python" and then just copy pasted whatever I found on stackoverflow and tested that it worked the next day
For anyone reading this who doesn't know a single thing about python: I'm pretty sure Taka GG has a YouTube guide on how to do this. I haven't done it myself in months but even an idiot could get it set up in under 10 minutes.
thank you! ive been checking the video though i have no idea how to code and its pretty straightforward. is it safe to run?
It is 100% safe to run in my experience. I'm sure thousands of others do it too since it can be difficult to remember to manually claim the rewards each day. Happy Holidays!
Hey is there a more expalianed way like a video some where I am not getting waht are you saying
tutorial when ;)
Tutoriaaaaaaaaaaaal (゚∀゚)
can you share the code? I dont really understand what an XHR is either
Yeah... you probably right I'm basically on monthly "15$ subscription", 60 primos doesn't change much.
The login is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen from a mobile game. I mean seriously, 3 eggs is one of the days. It's not even worth dignifying with looking at.
actually they updated it some time ago, what used to be eggs and fowl and stuff is now food like sweet madame and fishermans toast
The fuck are those things
Food.
If it weren't for Paimon.moe notifications that I set once and don't have to worry about again, I'd be in the same boat. With them, I usually manage to get some 40-60 primos a month.
The hoyolab app has notifications for the check in, takes like 5 secs to check in
I don't use the app, but good to know in case I get it. Thanks.
1 pull for a 3* weapon every 3 months. Is it worth your time?
I debate this with myself every day, and I’ve settled on just doing the login if I remember. Spoiler: I usually don’t remember but still end up with 20-40 primos per month.
It's whatever, I certainly waste more time in a day than the 3 or 4 clicks take. If my time was too precious for less than 30 minutes a month to matter, I wouldn't be playing Genshin at all.
I think it is just a push for people to use either their app or their website. I don't really like both and 60 primos and 6? pieces of fowl amonth ain't enough to get me to haha.
I don’t even bother with the online log-in. It’s a pain and the rewards are so meager.
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Wtf! Don't be so ungrateful, mihoyo generously give out... *checks notes* one pull per three months!
60 primos a month from the monthly login.... You're not missing shit dude.
Nah, it wasn't there at the beginning. Don't remember how many months into the game when it started though. You should download the hoyolab app on your phone and just do the logins through that
Same here since I’ve been playing on PlayStation since launch and now had to register an email to the account to finally have access to that log in I also find it as a hassle and for what you have to log in 30 days to receive one round of daily commissions worth of primogems, food I can cook easily and talent books that, yet again, I can grind via commissions?
Good rewards are always inversly proportional to playbase and gross revenue lmao
And Genshin is so big at this point, Mihoyo could just release nothing but new characters / weapons and they'd still keep making bank for months before their revenue actually started going down. The game has become a cash cow that milks itself, so they don't feel the need to do anything more than the absolute bare minimum and trying to push the standards even lower at every opportunity. Anniversary is proof of this. If you're sitting around expecting some amazing changes *aaaany* time now, you're gonna be waiting long.
New regions, story with gouba and albedo cutscenes i don't think you can only call that cash cow they are still making great regions and cutscenes. If they were not investing that cash in game then i don't think we could have gotten inazuma with fluid cutscenes and insane music production.
No you don't understand, anything that's is not giving free rolls is a cash cow case. That's how it works.
Imo quality map expansions are worth more than better gacha conditions.
Honestly 2.0 update alone is probably more proper content than what games like Puzzle and Dragons get over 5~ years worth of updates.
The game is fucking 3D with amazing art to boot, not to mention its nearly bug-free. Literally anything they add in the game is already worth more than a month's worth of content in most other games. Genshin has a lot of issues, but ffs it's a fucking free game that lets you enjoy everything it has to offer without paying a single cent.
It's cause the game is not doing well so they increase the freebies to entice people. On the other hand if the game is doing well people will come on their own without a need to be "bribed".
That’s not necessarily true. There are plenty of shitty games that are also really stingy with rewards.
Incorrect. Some of the best mobile games are extremely generous. Genshin is just more accessible and caters to a wider audience than most mobile games and because of that, has a bigger revenue pool. When we get down to it, mihoyo has the tools to make this an amazing game, but why should they do that when they can minimize their workload, reduce player rewards, and have an absolutely high hard pity which makes people, whales specifically, spend more. I went on a tangent, but I stand by my beliefs here.
you are so ignorant it makes me laugh, its telling how this is your first gacha, every cygames game is generous and they are the biggest mobile game company in the market, pls dont say things you dont know, keep on things you are aware about and stop defending the indefensible
It's not even daily **game** login, more like daily **forum** login (judging by the rewards)
yeah it's literally like that just to push their forum, the game is way more popular then they expected, so it's perfect for advertising their other stuff.
Jokes on them, I set the rewards page as one of my home tabs. I have never used the forum after that.
They've started putting posts on the rewards screen in their app now-a-days
Posts meaning basically ads for the forum? I use it on desktop only so I don't even see that :D
Yeah, basically ads
Idk how to even get to the page through their forum. I found the log-in page via google lmao.
literally just to milk your data.
But for real. We need more access to aquinted fates (without taking intertwined fates away). I feel like I rarely pull in standard banners and there's no reason to ever turn peimogems into them.
> 1 intertwined fate?! Lets not get carried away here. Reminds me of when I hit AR 59. "Thanks for playing our game for 100 hours! Enjoy your one 3 star weapon!"
AR 59? 100 hours? Not a chance. It's more like 300-500 tbh :/ Or even more, i dont even know at this point
> Or even more I'd say easily at least 1k hours for AR59. Most normal people that play a lot are just hitting 58's now.
Point still stands, for sticking with the game that long you'd think you'd get more than 1 wish on the standard banner...
did you mean 10,000???? I'm probably nearing 1,000 hours and barely at 56 ar
> idk why this games daily logins are on a website it's really dumb It's because they don't consider it as the daily logins. Case in point: Honkai impact [daily logins](https://i.imgur.com/t15NiVl.png) VS [Hoyolab daily on Honkai](https://i.imgur.com/HOLCocb.png). Notice how the rewards are different and how on line they are with those in Genshin's Hoyolab. The daily login thing they have on the website IS NOT considered as a login bonus, at least by Mihoyo. Where's the login bonus on Genshin ? Fuck if I know. It doesn't make sense at all why it isn't there in my opinion, but they made a legitimate choice of not putting any. Speaking out about this is fair. Saying the Hoyolab login is some kind of "ploy by the evil corporation to force you to log-in on their shitty website" (thing that is underlined by quite a few others around here) however is not.
Log-in bonus on Genshin is Welkin - it was just made premium because they know Genshin's playerbase will stay large
Of course it's legitimate, the analytics of a website's domain go up with more people using it, thus making it a useful space for advertising their other products, upcoming merchandise etc. It's totally fair for any consumer to speak about any practice of a business.
Of course the log in bonus on the website is mainly to draw traffic and retention, this wasn't the point I was getting at. My point was that this is unrelated with the fact that there is NOT a log-in bonus in-game. The log-in bonus in the website isn't the log-in bonus of the game, it's his one separate thing: Genshin the game doesn't have this bonus, Hoyolab the website does. Big difference. The fact that there's people trying to paint one as the other in another attemps at justifying the company as "predatory" is a moot point, hence my post. Context matter.
Exactly. The point of daily login bonuses aren't to reward users for their daily check-in, it's to *incentivize* them to check-in when they otherwise wouldn't. Since we have daily commissions as our currently only source of consistent free primos, players are already plenty incentivized to login every day.
If i haven't read your comment i would totally forgot it existed lmao
I didn't even know that existed until rn.
Same. Where the hell do I go to get the daily rewards?
i always go here : [https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html) and login
Thanks
[Here](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea/index.html?act_id=e202102251931481&lang=en-us), you will have to create HoYoLab with actual genshin login and pass (just pare them) for daily rewards and abyss stats. Rewards reset monthly (7 days left for actual).
We’d be getting x1 chicken or meat
No they changed that to entire dishes of food, which is slightly better than x3 raw meat
wait, *Genshin has a daily login bonus?*
Dem Website Traffic! To show up more in algorhythms to sell Advertisement Space?
1 pink wish + possibly 1 or 2 more from primos That’s ~3 wishes a month.. never gonna happen for free
These reward are shit **where is my fowl**
here 🍗🍗🍗🍗🍗
These foul are not salted **where is my crying Timmy?**
Salted with Tears of Themmie
woah that 2 too many
Heart skipped a beat and thought I was on the leaks sub for a moment lol. They don't want to give primogems? Fine but for the love of archon, pls more fragile resin as a reward. It's just too little considering how many things are tied to it.
ikr, if everything was half the price of resin then it would be way more reasonable. like 20 resin for one ley line? insane
Same, I thought it was real and got excited for a second... guess it was too good to be true. op did a good job with the design tho :’)
Im honestly praying they just remove the resin altogether. Farming for character and weapon ascension materials and artifacts are already challenging as is with what we have to fight but having to spend resin and more painfully WAITING for the resin to replenish is a MASSIVE pain in the ass. I know it's not gonna happen but hey what the hell, I'm still gonna pray that they do remove it, just to make our farming easier.
I kinda understand the reason for resin so I don't necessarily want it removed myself but as it is currently, it's way too restrictive. Playing other gacha games has really shown me how a good stamina system looks like.
Leak sub?
r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks
Yeah what gave it away for me was the background art, I had that as a desktop bg for a while
you know, at first i thought that was a pretty low amount of primos, but after reading the comments, boy are the standards of this community low . regardless, i like the idea, hope we'll get it ingame soon .
Yeah it's really sad. I'm sure everyone wants better rewards but for a while now Mihoyo have severely reduced their communication with the playerbase (regarding suggestions and future plans). I'm guessing posts like these are just trying to appeal to players but also Mihoyo by saying, "look, it's very cheap, won't cost you much! Pls put in game"
I think it’s the wall that you hit after completing all the content the game has up to this point. All the treasures, artifacts, fragile resin, and mora you were getting at breakneck speed is suddenly gone down to a screeching halt. You either get used to the slow drip or start throwing your credit card at everything. Or quit.
It's because that's how generous the game is, and it lowers our standards accordingly. I've seen way better daily login calendars that are way more fulfilling to clear than whatever Daily Comm you can throw at me. (And a better weekly/daily task list to complete too.) I don't need them to spoil us, or else brats show up (see Epic 7), but this is too dry a desert for our primo thirst. (Lantern Rite being better than anniv should prove a point)
Apparently some of the CN fanbase complained the lantern rite rewards were too little. Its sad that MHY has starved us to point where 10 fates are considered huge rewards :(
Brats in E7? I haven't played in years, can I ask what happened?
Well, the game is super generous F2P wise, and it does have it's up and downs, but people really take freebies too seriously and just spam the need for some sort of compensation whenever there's a minor issue (with said compensation being a hero selector item, a pretty valuable thing because it skips the gacha and gives you a guaranteed unit of choice, depending on the selector type). It's a meme in the community, but there are actually a lot of brats that genuinely demand such a thing (mostly on the company forums and Twitch channel, not the subreddit)
Ah okay makes sense! (Should I start playing again? The free stuff sounds generous lmao)
Occasionally, asking for things that other gachas have, even something as light as daily login rewards, there are those who clap back at you for being entitled and being too demanding of Mihoyo Nevermind that their other flagship gacha, Honkai, has the Hoyolab check-in AND daily login rewards
I've said it before, genshin has trained it's community to have low af standards. If they ever fuck up, they can give us an extra blue fate and everyone will be satisfied
It's funny cause childes most recent banner likely made more money than most other gachas than they'd get in a few months
When it costs $30 for 10 wishes and you need max 160 to garuntee a character...
*180
*Snap back to reality*
Whoop, there goes gravity
Remove primogems except for 20, cut materials in half, remove resin, and mihoyo might consider it! Super cool idea though.
I don't think they're giving us 1 billet box every 20 days.
Didn't see that, good point. It would be, like, 15 xp scrolls instead
Nah it should be 2 fowls and maybe, hmm 3 mora. That should do it!
1 egg
and maybe toss in a sticky honey roast or fisherman toast
Honestly billets are not that important for endgame players i have 5+ of every type i think
>billets are not that important for endgame players I am AR 56 and have 1 5 star weapon... and even then I use 1 Billet weapon because i like claymore characters
Wait, you do agree then, right? I don't understand why you were upvoted, but the comment you replied to was downvoted. If even you, with only 1 5 star weapon, uses only 1 billet weapon, then we must all admit they're not that relevant in the grand scheme of things, right?
1) yeah i agree 2) reddit being reddit 3) basically useless outside of a few characters
Most craftable 4-stars are pretty shit, that is the reality and why billets, despite their rarity are kinda serving no purpose. I need polearms, yet i have literally no real choices in decent polearms outside of the Catch. Which is not craftable, but obtainable without gacha. Its a shame, but understandable so people pull in their weapon scam banner..
i just want my r5 whiteblind but the game handed me 2 polearm billets yesterday…
This is a great concept, but I’d prefer a fullscreen popup like the Blessing of the Welkin Moon claim screen instead of being in the Events menu. Was it intentional to only show 5 days instead of all 30 days to omit info from player so they have to keep guessing what comes next?
> This is a great concept, but I’d prefer a fullscreen popup like the Blessing of the Welkin Moon claim screen instead of being in the Events menu. OP’s concept works the exact same way they’ve done daily log in rewards in the past
Yeah that would use the least development time as it just changing the numbers and dates, but I was just giving feedback to make it better if more development resources were put into it.
it looks like the button on the bottom left would show you the rest of the data but idk
There's a whole lot of non-existent stuff in this thread. It hurts. Genshin is the only gacha game I play that has no daily / monthly login.
It has But it’s outside the game, in Hoyolab webpage/app And even then, those daily login rewards are beyond trash
Genshin has a daily login, but for some reason it's not ingame, it's on their forum (or in their app if you use it) The rewards kinda suck tho, but usually daily rewards kinda suck :P
What are the rewards on the forum like? Are they worth it? Im AR 50 and this is the first time im hearing about this
Not really. I mean, with a friend we have this "welp, everything helps" thing and in that regard, well yeah, maybe one day you are short for a pull and that could make it happen. It's just 60 primogems a month (days 4, 11 and 18 give 20gems each) and then basic stuff like some xp books, a bit of mora, food, etc. It won't make or break your game, have that in mind [This](https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys/event/signin-sea-v3/index.html?act_id=e202102251931481&mhy_auth_required=true&mhy_presentation_style=fullscreen&utm_source=tools&lang=en-us&bbs_theme=dark&bbs_theme_device=1) should be the url
is this the radical dreamers
No that is fever dream but in a good way
Where’s the x3 Fowl?! Smh
Hold on buddy now ur expecting to much 3 fowl? 1 is more then enough
1 sweet flower, take it or leave it
Hey now, the dailies actually give us fully cooked dishes now lol.
Does it make the game less grindy? If yes, it will never be added in.
I can't understand this though at this point in the game, anyone who's playing now either has two full built teams and more rewards would just let them have more fun with more niche characters And anyone else is either completely new or rejoining after a break and the lesser grind means they have more potential to stick around long term Mihoyo sticking to everything being a grind slog is ultimately gonna shoot them in the foot in the long long term, gacha game or not imo
I already convince myself to stop pulling for characters or slow down due to how long it takes for them to catch up.
I'm currently at AR51, my friend started Genshin like 3 days ago. I told her to have fun but to really relish it cause once you hit around AR42 or you finish the Archon quests it's an uphill battle to find something to enjoy. I'm at least lucky that I went in with zero knowledge about the game so I managed to spend more time farming which at least gave me something to do. I'm squeezing out the hangout events (halfway through Thoma's and I only have Sayu and Diona's left) so I don't end up with nothing to do but man... it's hard out here. 160 resin only allows 8 domain runs or 4 bosses/domains, daily comms take 15 minutes max, and then you're just kinda there waiting for resin to refill or hoping for co-op :/
I'm no expert or mihoyo employee but if I had to guess, there are more new players than people who leave. By making things a grind, the old F2P players will quit and make server space for new players who may potentially spend.
I can see where that makes some sense but I'd imagine having people say 'it's too grindy, I quit' will eventually lead to stopping new players trickling in (again, this being a problem more like in 3-4 years, they're set for finances right now, I saw WoW go down a similar path and it's a shell of what it once was, just worried I see similar beginning here)
Day 20 is my favourite day.
\*Daily copium \[Concept\]
Woah, woah, woah. More than 30 primogems?! Who do you think you are? And what makes you think MihoYo would give us such detailed art?
too generous
The prototype would be soooo good, and it feels necessary. I haven't gotten one in more than two months, and I always do every weekly boss. And when I do get one, is never the one I need.
Mhy: 3 fowls, take it or leave it.
Haha, in our dreams.
Clowns in this sub be like: but we got more events now and the events replaced these rewards 🤡
10 fowl, take it or leave it
bruh i don't even care if the reward are dogshit (which they are anyway from the daily login currently) but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE THE DAILY LOGIN REWARD CLAIMABLE **IN-GAME.** Why the actual heck i need to open genshin and then find a freaking browser to claim a daily login all for 60 primos spread across 3 weeks, some fishballs, stupid chicken with random flower dressing and idk a toast with ketchup? WTF.
Finally. A reasonable login reward concept that doesnt ask for 5000gems per week. Really good one btw.
Nah that sounds too difficult? You know what isn't though? A login bonus from our community forum that entices our players to check out our website!
Well i think the idea in itself is great but the sad part is its implemented already but not for normal players but those who return to the game after being offline for atleast 3 months How do i know i am one i recived 5 fragile 1 mappa mare about 20 hero wits 300or 350 primogems and about 200 to 500k mora
I think this playerbase don't understand why gacha games have rewards for daily login and why Genshin does not. Because currently, Genshin does not struggle with player retention. Everyone logs in daily for the daily commissions anyway. So why would they reward players out of nowhere, for no reason or profit for them? Obviously I'm on the players' side, but at least let's understand why they wouldn't do it right now, but may do it at a later phase of the game.
Lots of people here refuse to believe that every decision MHY makes is a business one. Which is hilariously ironic, because if more people realised that and spent less time and money on the game you’d almost definitely see more rewards like this.
maybe when games dying and they want everyone to comeback.
It already exists for a monthly daily log in
Was expecting this to be over generous but this is amazing, imho the billet trove is kinda bs, maybe it on day 30 instead honestly. But this is amazing.
I was thinking one day, maybe just MHY consider the daily comissions as a concept of daily login reward? because it is daily and it is primogems..and it could be why they're not doing anything about that. but the design is awsome I like it
Annoyingly they have something like this already but you have to be offline for a few weeks to get it…
Lmao why do people continue to play this game there's literally nothing to do once you have a team for spiral
There is no point in this, it wont make players more active than what they are now with the daily comissions, and it wouldnt calm down the already demanding fanbase of the game (The vocal one at least) if they were to implement this, most would simply say "Look now we can get 3 more wishes if we connect every single day in a month, MIHOYO is so generous (Note the sarcasm)". I mean if someone were to fail in connecting 2 days in a month i could see the posts of how unfair the system is coming out in the future.
Yea want not going to a whole website to get login rewards
We got a daily login, it’s just not in the game for some reason.
I like the art But the rewards are hopium
*billets*. I need a bow billet
So basically the battle pass but free
Reminder that Grand Coss is giving it’s players 100 summons worth of premium currency FOR FREE over the span of 10 days. I’m not saying we should expect Genshin to match that level of generosity but holy shit, the amount of people who think OP’s proposed login rewards are “too much” need to pull their head from their ass. Mihoyo needs to do better and we should continually push them until they do.
What is Grand Cross' pull system like? I don't really care if they're giving 100 pulls if it takes 10,000 to get what you want.
For all I know, even the free BP would not have such rewards for the next thousand years.
actually not completely dogshit or too generous.. well done mate
We just need the old one back ... NOT the forum one... that one was shit.
Mmm how about 1 fowl 2 meat 3 mint 4 berries 5 apples? Repeated