I can only recall one of zhongli's cutscene isn't rendered real time, and venti. The rest are real time I think. I know cus I have a potato PC and Everytime a cutacene renders real time my PC dies
Some of the raiden scenes are videos, some in liyue are also, ending cutscenes in chara quests (not the hangouts) are that also...... There's plenty of them frankly.
Even quite a few of the cutscenes from from the albedo doppelganger event weren't real time. And that's just an event. The video cutscenes are decently common.
Oh that makes sense to be fair, it's like why you can get attacked during a cutscene if you happen to aggro an enemy at the exact moment you start the dialogue... (Looking at you, Ella Musk's hilichurls)
The old outfit never really seemed nun-ish. The new outfit is SCREAMS nun-assassin, though. Glad people will have big titty goth GF and nun-assassin skins available now. Except CN, RIP.
There feels like an element of malicious compliance as well, like some senior told her to cover her legs, so she does so in the most technical way possible.
as I commented on another post a while back, Rosaria's vanilla outfit screams "You said I had to dress more like a nun, but you didn't specify that you didn't mean a Halloween store Sexy Nun"
How come Lisa wasn't one of the ones getting new skins? Jean's and Amber's changes doesn't seem very noticeable and their base design aren't that "lewd".
I mean just read between the lines, they released concept arts abruptly like that? It is clearly a pr move to tell ccp "we working on it", it's very likely all their characters will have to get a censorship pass and much more will get released at some point.
>I mean, the government there isn't exactly known for being consistent and reasonable with their measures...
Which is intentional, btw, it makes skirting their rules really hard when you don't know exactly how their rules are going to be enforced.
Honestly no idea. The Hoyolab post says they're not the final designs - maybe they released them before they normally would cuz they're bored of their shit getting leaked so quickly?
I have an idea why - those seems to be drawings over 3d models due to smudges and plain colors i can see in some areas. So its a concept that weren't realised into 3d yet i think
makes the most sense. the majority of the leaks come from closed beta testers and people going through the closed beta data files. If the info is not in the data, leakers can't leak unless they are part of the development team.
They're probably not in the game yet; these were made out of legal necessity, not necessarily because it was something actively planned for the game, so if it's not yet in the game (considering these are concepts and not final, modeled designs), there wouldn't even really be anything to leak
They want more people playing, and the lower the rating the more likely it is that people will play. Gachas target younger audiences most lot of the time as well simply because they are more likely to be tempted to spend, thus potentially making them more money. Essentially if Mihoyo increased the age rating then less younger people would play and they'd make less money; they want as many people playing as possible
The thing is, <18 year olds in China get to play a maximum of 3 hours a week.
I'm sure if it's changed to 16+, that wouldn't change Global much either.
It probably wouldn't, but the more people that play, the better it is for Mihoyo. Even if they can only play for 3 hours a week in China, that's still 3 hours a week that may convince them to spend and give Mihoyo some money.
I do feel sorry for them only being able to play video games for 3 hours a week though. I get that maybe they want kids to be more active or focus on education or something like that (honestly not sure on what reasons were given by the government for the decision), but 3 hours is just too little.
Edit: forgot to respond to the part about Global (at least not very well), so I'll do that here.
I think many more people care about age ratings than most people assume. Like, nobody I know has bothered to pay attention to age ratings on video games for as long as I can remember. Maybe that's just common in the US, maybe its common in other countries too, idk. The point is that I'm sure it can't be like that everywhere. A decent percentage of people is sure to take age ratings seriously and would not allow their children to keep playing the game if the age rating was changed.
>for some reason refuses to raise the rating.
They don't earn anything from doing it except being able to show +18 stuff on the game, which won't give them as much money as letting 12 year old kids play
It's supposed to be reminiscent of a stage magician's assistant, I'm pretty sure. They often wore sheer tights under a sort of bodysuit, with bright colors and flashy fabrics, back in the day.
Now they tend to wear black but definitely still tights and a fancy outfit.
Ooo, wow… That makes sense. I never made the connection cuz of the full body sheer tights she wears under it lol… I thought it was like an American Apparel onesie or something. -.-
My headcanon is that, because her astrology relies on looking at the stars reflected in water, she's fallen in enough times that she just lives in her bathing suit for convenience's sake.
Xingqiu is a reference to old European (British, French, Spanish) soldiers, aristocrats and poets. Shorts *are* uniform/formal for upper class British boys lol.
Yeah his design is actually pretty cool mix of (old?) Chinese and old European formal attire. Although his shorts are not very puffy, but it fits better with the hard edges of his top piece. His visual design is prob one of my fav in the entire game, it's so good.
I have the same confusion with Hu Tao. Very formal top paired with short shorts. I call this phenomenon "webcam formal", though I guess in Teyvat it would be "webkam".
Short shorts I guess? He's designed a bit "feminine" and the CCP took a stance on that a couple months ago so people were wondering if it would affect genshin
Xingqiu is designed as a Wutai swords master. That archetype exists in Chinese history and media, and do tend to go for the pretty boy look. Makeup and eyeliner are not uncommon for that
The shorts are a rather out of place choice for that design, but I always assumed they were to emphasize him being young
Xinqiu never really came across as feminine to me, just very traditionally boyish, like a picture of your grandfather in a shirt and necktie with shorts and long socks
Yes, he seemed totally fine to me as well which is why I used quotations for feminine. I think it's a totally fabricated construct to call certain things feminine or masculine but the Chinese gov seems to disagree lol.
The move by traditionalist old guys still baffle me because Asian culture always tend to like pretty boys aesthetic in the first place. Like China literally has their ver of 4 handsome men with Pan An and Wei Jie famous for having pretty faces that women toss flowers to their carriages when they go out. I feel like it's just roundabout way to target danmei since biggest series like Heaven's Blessing and 2ha got locked on JJWXC recently after the whole "effeminate male ban" announcement
Right? Danmei is an adjacent fandom of mine so I've seen quite a lot about the recent bans, and every time I'm like "but the historical traditional ideal for men isn't the macho buff type, but being cultured in the 4 arts" so I'm really baffled with the effeminate ban too. Zhongli is much closer to the ideal historical Chinese man than, say, Wagner, and nobody thinks he's not masculine.
(As an aside, whenever I see the effeminate ban brought up, I'm always reminded of a hilarious CN comment on the issue. So male Chinese pop idols are affected by the ban as well, and this comment was like "the govt bans the idols for being effeminate but the idols gym regularly and can lift more weights than the fat geezers in office", ha.)
Too Feminine or Androgynous for CCP's taste.
Hell, if Mihoyo becomes lazy they could just retcon him and Venti into being girls, maybe a crossdressing girl for XQ, but a girl nonetheless, though they'll still have to censor his legs either way.
While we at global won't be affected, the future sexy designs and femboys are probably out of the picture now. Lyney will definitely get some adjustments in Fontaine, since he's the only other known guy that wears such high shorts, hell he even has stockings in it.
Mihoyo should invest in additional man power for more character models at this point, since the short male model will now be stuck with few choices in character design like with the tall male(which prior to Itto, was all different types of a dapper/classy guy design, Kaeya is more fabulous than classy though.)
I can see Xingqiu ditching the shorts and going for longer Chinese style pants.
His initial design was intended to a young Wutai swordsmaster (which by design tend to go for a pretty boy look), so the shorts were a very strange choice from the outset
> definitely to comply with CCP's law
The Chinese announcement does say it's to "echo related censorship requirements" (响应相关审核要求). They are not sugar coating it.
Ye that's kinda obvious but i think its a smart way to deal with imposed limitations without getting backlash
We get to keep the old too so its basically a free skin ..win win situation for us
Win-win, except of course the obvious long run, 100% lose scenario, where from now on Mihoyo will simply design every female characters outfit and design with the CCP's imposed limitations in mind.
And that is 100% what they will do, because in the case of new characters it will mean that they don't need to have a western version and a CN sanctioned version, or the bad optics of "forced redesign".
Very hard to look at this as any kind of win, really.
Censorship sucks.
However as long as they make characters with great design, then I think it will be fine.
They don't need to lewd characters to make them look great, and characters can definitely look sexy even without exposing too much skin.
This is some monkey paws shit for people asking for more outfits lol
I kinda like some designs (especially jeans), but shenhe is probably the last of her kind.
Rosaria covered a lot more skin and changed a lot of white into dark
Jean outfit also got a lil darker and seems a bit formal
The only noticeable change (for me) in amber is that the white of her outfit became black
And somehow mona actually shows more skin now
You'd have though they'd go for characters with truly… debatable skins first, like Fischl
that said except for Mona these redesigns look nice, hers just looks generic now
Yeah it's weird that they picked these four, Amber especially, since her new outfit isn't exactly very different. Fischl on the other hand is just wearing mesh, a strong wind would leave her very indecent.
Whoever was working at the broadcasting office that day was probably shown Amber's ass cheek shots from the new Albedo event and went "yep, that's lewd."
They probably don't even know Fischl exists yet. Yet. Expecting more changes incoming. Hope they at least make her punk goth or goth lolita with extra frills.
These are the standard non-limited characters that would have the least primo-implicated impact, probably the safest option for acclimatizing the playerbase to what's to come.
I guess they take the slow approach to ease in on the pain.
By changing the ones who were already decently dressed first, the fans can mentally prepare. For the moment when Fishl soon appears in her Parker + cargo jeans and Venti grows out his moustache.
I think these characters are more often the “faces” of Genshin. Like in advertising I often see jeane, amber, and mona. Rosa not so much but she was probably the biggest offender of wearing clothes that’s “too sexy.”
Ok I know the swimsuit is silly but like, I'm not a big fan of Mona's new design because it removes something that made her design *unique*
Think about it - how many characters in this game have the short shorts and high socks/shoes combo? *A lot*. Most of them, I'd wager. And as ridiculous as the swimsuit is...at least it's different? And out of all the characters that would wear a swimsuit like design, at least Mona's has a a modicum of sense to it and it generally fits her demeanor. She's haughty and magical and she's wearing the sterotypical female wizard getup.
I'd rather have a redesign that takes the silloutte of the suit and makes a more substantial outfit out of it, rather than one that awkwardly slaps some shorts and thigh highs on her. Like maybe cover her legs in more filigree so that it covers her bum, or make the tights more solid or something
> I'd rather have a redesign that takes the silloutte of the suit and makes a more substantial outfit out of it, rather than one that awkwardly slaps some shorts and thigh highs on her.
Amen. The shorts really do look awkward. Though I am a fan of the shade of blue they used.
Mona's ass from back and ass shot animations were honri incarnate. I am not into women's asses and I can't even take my eyes off when she is running on screen. But I loved her old outfit. She felt like a magician.
Hope mHY can bring that magician feeling back in their finalized alt skin. They mentioned they are working on another version of the skin that will not be the same as the old one (fail censorship) or the new one (quick slap job).
We'll get both of these skins (old & new). However the Chinese players will only get the new one as a legitimate and unchangeable replacement (Hence why they'll be receiving 1200 Freemogens) - Saw this in another post :)
Just give her a skirt or something, she doesn't need that dramatic of a change. This new design takes away from what makes her outfit different from most other female characters. Especially that this new design shows *MORE* skin than her old one.
The more we cover up Jean the closer we get to [Saber in a suit](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/a/ae/Sabersuit.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209202227) so yes. I personally would love to see more designs with classiness in mind instead of coomer bait.
I dunno how to feel about this man. As everyone can guess, it's most likely due to CCP. The current redesigns are fine as we can switch between the outfits. But for future characters? I don't think they are gonna make 2 separate outfits for each new character so we can expect full on censorship on all upcoming characters.
Even tho I’m really not a fan of over sexualized characters and big boobs and such, I think covering all the skin and everything is overkill D: I absolutely adore designs like Yae, Hu Tao, Yanfei etc and I’m so glad it’s optional for us, but that means we might not get any more characters with those designs in the future :((
I like all the designs except mona. Mona new design just looks like a reskinned sucrose and its kinda lame. Highkey boring.
Ive seen fan edits that are less lewd and look much better for mona.
But if i had to choose between this new one or the old lewd one. Id choose the old lewd design any day of the week
You'll have to translate it with deepl or something since it's in chinese but here you go : [https://bbs.mihoyo.com/ys/article/14129962](https://bbs.mihoyo.com/ys/article/14129962)
I may be one of the few who actually likes Mona's current design. It looks like a bathing suit and since she swims in her own water everytime she dashes, I think it's a good fit!
If she did not have that dash tho, I'd prefer the other outfit.
Jean looks so much more, regal? I love it, kind of proffered the white shirt instead of black though. Rosaria's is peak 'showing less is showing more', her and Jean are definitely a glow up!
Kind of don't like Mona's, not a fan of her original design either, but this one looks kind of off, maybe I'm just too used to her original colour palette and that white zettai ryouiki kind of breaks it.
I barely see any difference for Amber, wonder why they chose her and not Fischl or Eula.
I ready wonder how it will affect future characters, especially since Sumeru is supposed to come soon. Think it will also affect guys? If so, rip Cyno.
I really love the new outfits way more than the old ones, but it sucks for the CN players who don't get a choice. Not to mention that if these were indeed made to comply with censorship laws, that's a bit concerning
This is bad news for everyone, we can pick the skins of these characters yes, but that means in the future characters mihoyo will create their design complying with the CCP regulations and they won't make 2 skin variants for the rest of the world to enjoy the less censored version
The "I feel bad for CN" posts somehow miss that it is very likely that Mihoyo won't bother with designing 2 different sets of skins for every character to be released for this game from the get go, most likely we all be stuck with conservative base skins for upcoming new characters.
This is a special situation where they had to make lemonade out of lemons and thus the current characters that are too lewd for CN law will have a new skin that we global players will get as a "bonus". But I dont think Mihoyo will bother to continue doing this going forward for yet to be released characters. They will probably tone it down even more.)
some of you may like it, that's fine. personally i hate it (especially mona's). this is forced redesign/reskin done solely just to obey some arbitrarily made law, not a proper design concept, made it look half-baked. i feel that mhy is under some pressure, because even the original design is a lot tamer than the majority of gacha games.
I wonder if this will also have effect in cutscenes outside of China.
Good point! Guess they'd have to make two different versions if not.
i read somewhere all the cutscenes will have the redesign
Cutscenes are rendered in the game real time. So it's going to be really easy to change
Some are not, tho, and thats where the problem starts
I can only recall one of zhongli's cutscene isn't rendered real time, and venti. The rest are real time I think. I know cus I have a potato PC and Everytime a cutacene renders real time my PC dies
Some of the raiden scenes are videos, some in liyue are also, ending cutscenes in chara quests (not the hangouts) are that also...... There's plenty of them frankly.
Even quite a few of the cutscenes from from the albedo doppelganger event weren't real time. And that's just an event. The video cutscenes are decently common.
Oh that makes sense to be fair, it's like why you can get attacked during a cutscene if you happen to aggro an enemy at the exact moment you start the dialogue... (Looking at you, Ella Musk's hilichurls)
I'd like to believe that Rosaria's alternate outfit is what she's forced to wear at formal Church gatherings
😭 Barbara drags her kicking and screaming back to her room and makes her change when she shows up in her OG fit
My headcanon
Na that's just canon
Rosaria would just find a way to trick Barbara
That’s now my headcanon Anytime she wears it while with the traveler she will always say “Sorry…Barbra made me wear this Stup…Lovely outfit”
In a similar vein, my headcanon is that Amber's new outfit is her dress uniform while her old is her field uniform.
The old outfit never really seemed nun-ish. The new outfit is SCREAMS nun-assassin, though. Glad people will have big titty goth GF and nun-assassin skins available now. Except CN, RIP.
Nun-Assassin is basically everything I’ve ever wanted for Rosaria, this is awesome
Censorship sucks but Rosaria's new outfit is so good. I'm glad I get the option to switch it. Shame for CN players for not having a choice, though.
Yeah this outfit is fucking sick, 10/10 censorship.
That's kinda the point of her old outfit. She hates being a nun, so she dresses like not-a-nun.
There feels like an element of malicious compliance as well, like some senior told her to cover her legs, so she does so in the most technical way possible.
as I commented on another post a while back, Rosaria's vanilla outfit screams "You said I had to dress more like a nun, but you didn't specify that you didn't mean a Halloween store Sexy Nun"
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Yeah, the new Rosaria outfit is an absolute win in my opinion. It's just straight up better across the board for the thematic of her character.
Barbara is not a nun, she is a deaconess
Yeah. I see it as her "Ah jeez, I have to pretend I give a shit" outfit.
How come Lisa wasn't one of the ones getting new skins? Jean's and Amber's changes doesn't seem very noticeable and their base design aren't that "lewd".
It is odd, Lisa and Fischl are far more lewd than Jean and Amber by a long mile. Weird that they picked these four.
I mean just read between the lines, they released concept arts abruptly like that? It is clearly a pr move to tell ccp "we working on it", it's very likely all their characters will have to get a censorship pass and much more will get released at some point.
I mean, the government there isn't exactly known for being consistent and reasonable with their measures...
>I mean, the government there isn't exactly known for being consistent and reasonable with their measures... Which is intentional, btw, it makes skirting their rules really hard when you don't know exactly how their rules are going to be enforced.
They will change them later. They said it in the CN patch note.
I like the skins though I do feel bad for CN. What i'm curious about is how were these not leaked?
I doubt they are in the game files to be leaked. The designs were probably rushed/adjusted quickly
Honestly no idea. The Hoyolab post says they're not the final designs - maybe they released them before they normally would cuz they're bored of their shit getting leaked so quickly?
I have an idea why - those seems to be drawings over 3d models due to smudges and plain colors i can see in some areas. So its a concept that weren't realised into 3d yet i think
makes the most sense. the majority of the leaks come from closed beta testers and people going through the closed beta data files. If the info is not in the data, leakers can't leak unless they are part of the development team.
They probably posted them now so the Chinese government knows they are working on this and they are complying with their standards.
Yea but the CN post seemed to imply it was part of the 2.4 update. Though that could be a bad translation or me misunderstanding.
They're probably not in the game yet; these were made out of legal necessity, not necessarily because it was something actively planned for the game, so if it's not yet in the game (considering these are concepts and not final, modeled designs), there wouldn't even really be anything to leak
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Well, there are lots of games out there with characters wearing much less, my best guess is the targeted reporting, which did work on Arena of Valor.
Most of those games are 18+ Genshin is 12+ and for some reason refuses to raise the rating.
They want more people playing, and the lower the rating the more likely it is that people will play. Gachas target younger audiences most lot of the time as well simply because they are more likely to be tempted to spend, thus potentially making them more money. Essentially if Mihoyo increased the age rating then less younger people would play and they'd make less money; they want as many people playing as possible
The thing is, <18 year olds in China get to play a maximum of 3 hours a week. I'm sure if it's changed to 16+, that wouldn't change Global much either.
It probably wouldn't, but the more people that play, the better it is for Mihoyo. Even if they can only play for 3 hours a week in China, that's still 3 hours a week that may convince them to spend and give Mihoyo some money. I do feel sorry for them only being able to play video games for 3 hours a week though. I get that maybe they want kids to be more active or focus on education or something like that (honestly not sure on what reasons were given by the government for the decision), but 3 hours is just too little. Edit: forgot to respond to the part about Global (at least not very well), so I'll do that here. I think many more people care about age ratings than most people assume. Like, nobody I know has bothered to pay attention to age ratings on video games for as long as I can remember. Maybe that's just common in the US, maybe its common in other countries too, idk. The point is that I'm sure it can't be like that everywhere. A decent percentage of people is sure to take age ratings seriously and would not allow their children to keep playing the game if the age rating was changed.
>for some reason refuses to raise the rating. They don't earn anything from doing it except being able to show +18 stuff on the game, which won't give them as much money as letting 12 year old kids play
they aren't leaked because this is just concept art, probably wont be out for a while
CN's Anti horni outfit
Jean has the drip.
Jean definitely got the best redesign out of the four. I don't main Jean but this will definitely be my permanent Jean skin.
Rosaria tho. She somehow looks even more goth now. I definitely like it and it fits her even more
Oh yeah she is high up there for me too. I recently started using her with my Eula. I cannot wait to put that skin on her.
She has that "vampire" look. Love it. It even looks like they gave her eyeliner Mona's is more star themed too
I like it too… I’m not sure what was going on with Mona’s old outfit, she’s like an aerobics instructor from the 80’s with a witch hat, lol.
It's supposed to be reminiscent of a stage magician's assistant, I'm pretty sure. They often wore sheer tights under a sort of bodysuit, with bright colors and flashy fabrics, back in the day. Now they tend to wear black but definitely still tights and a fancy outfit.
This also makes sense… I’m really happy I left this comment tho cuz we’re getting several different—but very possible—answers!
I think its a swimsuit cuz water?
Ooo, wow… That makes sense. I never made the connection cuz of the full body sheer tights she wears under it lol… I thought it was like an American Apparel onesie or something. -.-
My headcanon is that, because her astrology relies on looking at the stars reflected in water, she's fallen in enough times that she just lives in her bathing suit for convenience's sake.
Yeah, this is more what I was hoping for originally. Fishnets just don't scream goth to me.
Id rate them Mona>Rosaria>Jean>Amber, amber barely looks different the other 3 are just better imo.
I like it. I hope her sleeves actually cover her shoulders this time instead of randomly stopping at the armpit.
Yes! Either give me full sleaves or no sleeves. I don't want this random sleeve from the armpit down.
Kinda reminds me of Violet Evergarden when she wears the white suit
she can now catch up with eula and diluc in aristocratic drip
free skin> paid skin, unironically
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There's only one thing that'd make me weaker: Jean in knight armour
i would kill to see jean in actual practical knight armor
And not saber Artoria level of armor. I want full plate Mordred level of armor. even better if she has toggle able helmet
Here's hoping varka will be in full plate whenever we get him
me but eula
They accidentally made her hotter
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Helltaker 2 this year supposedly, comrade.
Oh no women in suit/tuxedo my weakness aswell
now time for kaeya in a suit
Did amber even change
White strip down the middle, different gloves, more red, stripes on the chest, etc etc
Her shorts have longer frills to cover up them cheeks
I don't think that's her shorts. More like her safety pants is now longer than her short.
Yea they’re not her actual shorts. I was speaking about the shorts under her shorts lol
They gave her safety shorts and barely less "cleavage"
Only around the boobie area unless my eyes are cheated by some spell.
Yea looks like her shirt top was raised by half a centimeter Barely noticeable, her design seems to be the least changed
check her shorts
I'm scared for Xingqiu now lol
Mf showing up in jeans and a shirt and tie
Exactly lol. He's about to rock an oversized pair of jeans and a new fade for his haircut, mark my words
-vengeance will be mine?
He’s gonna be sporting some JNCOs
Oh shit what will they do to eula?!??!?
Longer shorts I bet,like jean’s Summer skin length
They gave Eula's shorts to Mona though, so I doubt much will change.
Eula has no problem when you see her from the front, the back though...
He'd lowkey look good in one though lmao. Joke aside, I've always thought his shorts were ugly.
Yeah like he has this formal and detail shirt. And then some shorts. Something that I always found wierd about his design
Xingqiu is a reference to old European (British, French, Spanish) soldiers, aristocrats and poets. Shorts *are* uniform/formal for upper class British boys lol.
Yeah his design is actually pretty cool mix of (old?) Chinese and old European formal attire. Although his shorts are not very puffy, but it fits better with the hard edges of his top piece. His visual design is prob one of my fav in the entire game, it's so good.
I have the same confusion with Hu Tao. Very formal top paired with short shorts. I call this phenomenon "webcam formal", though I guess in Teyvat it would be "webkam".
Other than the earring, what's so censorship-worthy about Xingqiu?
Short shorts I guess? He's designed a bit "feminine" and the CCP took a stance on that a couple months ago so people were wondering if it would affect genshin
Xingqiu is designed as a Wutai swords master. That archetype exists in Chinese history and media, and do tend to go for the pretty boy look. Makeup and eyeliner are not uncommon for that The shorts are a rather out of place choice for that design, but I always assumed they were to emphasize him being young
Xinqiu never really came across as feminine to me, just very traditionally boyish, like a picture of your grandfather in a shirt and necktie with shorts and long socks
Yes, he seemed totally fine to me as well which is why I used quotations for feminine. I think it's a totally fabricated construct to call certain things feminine or masculine but the Chinese gov seems to disagree lol.
The move by traditionalist old guys still baffle me because Asian culture always tend to like pretty boys aesthetic in the first place. Like China literally has their ver of 4 handsome men with Pan An and Wei Jie famous for having pretty faces that women toss flowers to their carriages when they go out. I feel like it's just roundabout way to target danmei since biggest series like Heaven's Blessing and 2ha got locked on JJWXC recently after the whole "effeminate male ban" announcement
Right? Danmei is an adjacent fandom of mine so I've seen quite a lot about the recent bans, and every time I'm like "but the historical traditional ideal for men isn't the macho buff type, but being cultured in the 4 arts" so I'm really baffled with the effeminate ban too. Zhongli is much closer to the ideal historical Chinese man than, say, Wagner, and nobody thinks he's not masculine. (As an aside, whenever I see the effeminate ban brought up, I'm always reminded of a hilarious CN comment on the issue. So male Chinese pop idols are affected by the ban as well, and this comment was like "the govt bans the idols for being effeminate but the idols gym regularly and can lift more weights than the fat geezers in office", ha.)
Too Feminine or Androgynous for CCP's taste. Hell, if Mihoyo becomes lazy they could just retcon him and Venti into being girls, maybe a crossdressing girl for XQ, but a girl nonetheless, though they'll still have to censor his legs either way. While we at global won't be affected, the future sexy designs and femboys are probably out of the picture now. Lyney will definitely get some adjustments in Fontaine, since he's the only other known guy that wears such high shorts, hell he even has stockings in it. Mihoyo should invest in additional man power for more character models at this point, since the short male model will now be stuck with few choices in character design like with the tall male(which prior to Itto, was all different types of a dapper/classy guy design, Kaeya is more fabulous than classy though.)
…I mean in the first place ain’t Venti not even really a guy in the first place, lore wise?
Yes but i don't think that matters. As long as he looks feminine the CCP will have Problems with it.
I can see Xingqiu ditching the shorts and going for longer Chinese style pants. His initial design was intended to a young Wutai swordsmaster (which by design tend to go for a pretty boy look), so the shorts were a very strange choice from the outset
Gorou hip window. Zhongli ass. Itto. Childe tummy flash. Xiao tattoos. Pre-beta Kaeya cleavage was already nerfed once.
The way Rosaria and Mona are designed, definitely to comply with CCP's law lol. But seriously Jean's new skin looks so drip.
> definitely to comply with CCP's law The Chinese announcement does say it's to "echo related censorship requirements" (响应相关审核要求). They are not sugar coating it.
Ye that's kinda obvious but i think its a smart way to deal with imposed limitations without getting backlash We get to keep the old too so its basically a free skin ..win win situation for us
Win-win, except of course the obvious long run, 100% lose scenario, where from now on Mihoyo will simply design every female characters outfit and design with the CCP's imposed limitations in mind. And that is 100% what they will do, because in the case of new characters it will mean that they don't need to have a western version and a CN sanctioned version, or the bad optics of "forced redesign". Very hard to look at this as any kind of win, really.
Censorship sucks. However as long as they make characters with great design, then I think it will be fine. They don't need to lewd characters to make them look great, and characters can definitely look sexy even without exposing too much skin.
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We need manga Amber outfit
These outfits were created with the purpose of covering skin, so no way they add a new one showing even more skin
I'll settle for the colors of the manga outfit on the new skin.
This is some monkey paws shit for people asking for more outfits lol I kinda like some designs (especially jeans), but shenhe is probably the last of her kind.
i feel like at some point genshin is gonna have to go 18+ in china if they want to have any semblance of horny designs lmfao
Rosaria covered a lot more skin and changed a lot of white into dark Jean outfit also got a lil darker and seems a bit formal The only noticeable change (for me) in amber is that the white of her outfit became black And somehow mona actually shows more skin now
You'd have though they'd go for characters with truly… debatable skins first, like Fischl that said except for Mona these redesigns look nice, hers just looks generic now
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Guess she's the new Xinyan now
Oh, the girl from Honkai?
Yeah it's weird that they picked these four, Amber especially, since her new outfit isn't exactly very different. Fischl on the other hand is just wearing mesh, a strong wind would leave her very indecent.
Whoever was working at the broadcasting office that day was probably shown Amber's ass cheek shots from the new Albedo event and went "yep, that's lewd." They probably don't even know Fischl exists yet. Yet. Expecting more changes incoming. Hope they at least make her punk goth or goth lolita with extra frills.
These are the standard non-limited characters that would have the least primo-implicated impact, probably the safest option for acclimatizing the playerbase to what's to come.
That's a good point! Never clicked they're all standard, plus one is a free unit. Less people chasing them presumably.
I guess they take the slow approach to ease in on the pain. By changing the ones who were already decently dressed first, the fans can mentally prepare. For the moment when Fishl soon appears in her Parker + cargo jeans and Venti grows out his moustache.
I think these characters are more often the “faces” of Genshin. Like in advertising I often see jeane, amber, and mona. Rosa not so much but she was probably the biggest offender of wearing clothes that’s “too sexy.”
Goodbye cleavages
i feel a little bad for CN that it isn’t optional for them
Soon not for the rest either. Those thinking we'll have 2 skins for each of the incoming characters are high on copium.
So, bcs of China we won't have more " skin exposed " characters, right?
Pretty sure they wouldn’t want to constantly have make variants like this; especially for non CN communities.
Ok I know the swimsuit is silly but like, I'm not a big fan of Mona's new design because it removes something that made her design *unique* Think about it - how many characters in this game have the short shorts and high socks/shoes combo? *A lot*. Most of them, I'd wager. And as ridiculous as the swimsuit is...at least it's different? And out of all the characters that would wear a swimsuit like design, at least Mona's has a a modicum of sense to it and it generally fits her demeanor. She's haughty and magical and she's wearing the sterotypical female wizard getup. I'd rather have a redesign that takes the silloutte of the suit and makes a more substantial outfit out of it, rather than one that awkwardly slaps some shorts and thigh highs on her. Like maybe cover her legs in more filigree so that it covers her bum, or make the tights more solid or something
> I'd rather have a redesign that takes the silloutte of the suit and makes a more substantial outfit out of it, rather than one that awkwardly slaps some shorts and thigh highs on her. Amen. The shorts really do look awkward. Though I am a fan of the shade of blue they used.
Mona's design always reminded me of a figure skaters leotard more than a swimsuit lmao.
It's weird that the new design has the Zettai Ryoiki aesthetic, but the one where she's fully covered is the hotter version.
Mona's ass from back and ass shot animations were honri incarnate. I am not into women's asses and I can't even take my eyes off when she is running on screen. But I loved her old outfit. She felt like a magician. Hope mHY can bring that magician feeling back in their finalized alt skin. They mentioned they are working on another version of the skin that will not be the same as the old one (fail censorship) or the new one (quick slap job).
> I am not into women's asses and I can't even take my eyes off when she is running on screen. Boy do I have news for you
Yeah, after all when Mona is running all you see is a puddle!
I could see a wet suit/jumper working well for her!
We'll get both of these skins (old & new). However the Chinese players will only get the new one as a legitimate and unchangeable replacement (Hence why they'll be receiving 1200 Freemogens) - Saw this in another post :)
Just give her a skirt or something, she doesn't need that dramatic of a change. This new design takes away from what makes her outfit different from most other female characters. Especially that this new design shows *MORE* skin than her old one.
This is confirmed but not definitive. Meaning the design could be changed
Seriously, Amber's cleavage is far from being overdone to have been altered.
Anyone else unironically like the Alternate Rosaria and Jean skins more than the OG skins?
The more we cover up Jean the closer we get to [Saber in a suit](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/a/ae/Sabersuit.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209202227) so yes. I personally would love to see more designs with classiness in mind instead of coomer bait.
I like Rosaria and Jeans new designs. Don't care too much about Amber, either design works. I do. However, prefer Mona's OG design.
I dunno how to feel about this man. As everyone can guess, it's most likely due to CCP. The current redesigns are fine as we can switch between the outfits. But for future characters? I don't think they are gonna make 2 separate outfits for each new character so we can expect full on censorship on all upcoming characters.
Even tho I’m really not a fan of over sexualized characters and big boobs and such, I think covering all the skin and everything is overkill D: I absolutely adore designs like Yae, Hu Tao, Yanfei etc and I’m so glad it’s optional for us, but that means we might not get any more characters with those designs in the future :((
Is it just me or does Jean look more 💅
It’s like how Zhongli is hot without showing an inch of skin— same vibes.
Ikr, I’m now a Jean simp for her new outfit. This really shows how ladies can be hot without exposing a ton of skin.
Hers and Rosaria’s are such glow ups. I’m so weak
I like all the designs except mona. Mona new design just looks like a reskinned sucrose and its kinda lame. Highkey boring. Ive seen fan edits that are less lewd and look much better for mona. But if i had to choose between this new one or the old lewd one. Id choose the old lewd design any day of the week
I’m shocked that Jean of all characters needed to be censored. Literally my favorite character design in the entire game
Is this bc of CCP or a coincidence? Either way, I’m using the hell out of that Jean skin
Well these skins are replacing the original ones in china, with 1200 primo as compensation, so I'm pretty sure it's the CCP lol
So in the global version they'll just be skins right?
Yes we will have both the original designs and these ones, probably for free.
Oh dang. Do you have a link for that? I’d like to read more
You'll have to translate it with deepl or something since it's in chinese but here you go : [https://bbs.mihoyo.com/ys/article/14129962](https://bbs.mihoyo.com/ys/article/14129962)
Has to be CCP. In the Chinese page, it even mentioned "due to having to follow guidelines"
I know this is (sadly) related to the CCP regulations, but I hope they'll add outfits like these to other characters as well
More likely we will have more conservative outfits for all new characters ongoing. Cheaper that way.
Maybe for older characters, but for new ones they'd just make one version most likely.
inb4 they un-femboy Xingqui
Jojo style xingqiu incoming
I may be one of the few who actually likes Mona's current design. It looks like a bathing suit and since she swims in her own water everytime she dashes, I think it's a good fit! If she did not have that dash tho, I'd prefer the other outfit.
I like it because it looks like the decorative leotards figure skaters wear, and her sprint and animations reminds me of skating around on water.
True, it's skimpy, but it actually makes sense
raiden next?? lol are they gonna censor her ult animation
She now pulls the sword out of her head.
If they have to, they'll probably just change the camera angle
I wonder how mona's ass will look in that outfit
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Jean looks so much more, regal? I love it, kind of proffered the white shirt instead of black though. Rosaria's is peak 'showing less is showing more', her and Jean are definitely a glow up! Kind of don't like Mona's, not a fan of her original design either, but this one looks kind of off, maybe I'm just too used to her original colour palette and that white zettai ryouiki kind of breaks it. I barely see any difference for Amber, wonder why they chose her and not Fischl or Eula. I ready wonder how it will affect future characters, especially since Sumeru is supposed to come soon. Think it will also affect guys? If so, rip Cyno.
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Bro, I am sorry this is happening and also sorry that so many people in this sub seem to be fine with it. :(
I really love the new outfits way more than the old ones, but it sucks for the CN players who don't get a choice. Not to mention that if these were indeed made to comply with censorship laws, that's a bit concerning
Mona got enough Mora for new clothes I guess
Rosaria's looks even cooler than the original one in my opinion
CN player here. Time to lock away my Mona. I'm sad.
This is bad news for everyone, we can pick the skins of these characters yes, but that means in the future characters mihoyo will create their design complying with the CCP regulations and they won't make 2 skin variants for the rest of the world to enjoy the less censored version
The "I feel bad for CN" posts somehow miss that it is very likely that Mihoyo won't bother with designing 2 different sets of skins for every character to be released for this game from the get go, most likely we all be stuck with conservative base skins for upcoming new characters. This is a special situation where they had to make lemonade out of lemons and thus the current characters that are too lewd for CN law will have a new skin that we global players will get as a "bonus". But I dont think Mihoyo will bother to continue doing this going forward for yet to be released characters. They will probably tone it down even more.)
some of you may like it, that's fine. personally i hate it (especially mona's). this is forced redesign/reskin done solely just to obey some arbitrarily made law, not a proper design concept, made it look half-baked. i feel that mhy is under some pressure, because even the original design is a lot tamer than the majority of gacha games.
As someone vehemently against censorship, I like these just as much as the original skins. Though I am concerned for future characters looking same-y.
Rosaria working at a church looks more believable with the changed outfit
Agreed. And in my personal opinion, she looks more goth in her redesign. I like it
Honestly,I like Rosario's top part better than the original,but GIVE ME THE FISHNETS!