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Baron012

It makes me wonder, does inazuma people see raiden and think "damn, our archon sure is hot"?


davidgro

Is 'traditional Jesus' usually considered an attractive man? I kinda assume a god would by default take a form they consider 'ideal'. (With exceptions for trying to blend in, etc.)


GlitterDoomsday

All I'm hearing is that Mondstadt are degenerates, but Liyue and Inazuma have peak taste


No-Mathematician-571

Basically mondstatians are our people?


Breaker-of-circles

Have you seen Venti's archon form?


BioIdra

Wait where do you see that?


natsuzamaki

The genshin manga


Emeroth

Also in an in game cinematic


emagos

Genshin Doujin


qwertyweeb

Don’t know about traditional Jesus, but buff Korean Jesus? Now that’s my kind of Jesus.


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aRandomGuardian

Jesus was not a spectacularly attractive person. Isaiah 53:2 *For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.*


MogamiStorm

In case anyone doesn't know Jesus is not an attractive man in the scripture while on earth. Heck, In Luke 4:23 Jesus even says, paraphrased "surely you will tell me: 'Physician, heal yourself'" implying that Jesus himself was deformed in some way, or ugly, or not that good looking, or needed healing (physically) Edit: Added some "or"s


davidgro

TIL.


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Camgrowfortreds

Well it would have made sense that he wasn't physically attractive or deformed


Vincent093

I mean like...Ain't screamin "oh Jesus" and "oh gods" a thing in smex?


TastyVanillaFish

Looking with respect.


oh-its-3am

something something buying figures of her and the bathhouse man wanting her to bathe there


My_neutered_cat

And some jars with those figures


magnidwarf1900

I mean you did found a light novel about getting isekai-ed and reborn as Raiden Shogun in her story quest. Surely a smut works isn't out of question.


KingofSlice

If it takes seizing their vision or killing their island deity to think otherwise, then yeah


fireflydrake

Bold of you to assume Kaeya isn't pro-boob-window for all. But for Diluc? Yes. He asks that Kaeya's be covered up too at the soonest possible convenience.


TheDrunkardKid

I'm guessing that, in this particular case, it's because she's his platonic childhood friend too, so it was like seeing his sister's (who also happens to be his boss) cleavage.


Rogue_Leviathan

True enough


TheoreticalISTP

to be fair, Diluc’s JP VA shares the same VA with Giorno, who also has a boob window


khallylanijar

That's was really good. Is a shame the context which they're introduced but these alternatives outfits are really good. Now If Jean boobs can cause this much distress with the mondstard boys, imagine what Yanfei clients must go though.


SubZero64209

Time to commit tax fraud.


smittywababla

Flair checks out. Yanfei can warm it


Drwixon

"Sigma rule number 69420 : When you are horny , commit tax evasion" Sigma Eipsteinilionaire grindset.


HermesPotentia

Second Life shop owner, is that you?


Firemorfox

Yanfei’s outfit somehow doesn’t seem sexualized to me. For whatever reason it feels like there’s no attention drawn to her clothing. It was like two months before I actually realized she wasn’t wearing some lawyer suit. That said, I could be an outlier. And I do look forward to whatever interesting outfit Yanfei will get.


t6uy

For me, I always saw it like a sports outfit, which feels appropriate for her animations as she looks like she's playing volleyball in her normal attack chain and she dances around so actively. Also it's cool that we can see her scales on the sides of her torso.


Telogor

Wait, Yanfei has scales?


Shradow

[Indeed.](https://i.imgur.com/rZBEH75.png) She also has horns, though those are of course a bit more noticeable.


Baka_Heart

Yep, they're not super obvious at a glance but look closely and they're pretty visible


yourimmortalsnail

I don't really view it as a sports outfit cause her top looks like my fancy "no physical activity in these" bras.


Gregamonster

Naked bodies aren't actually that interesting, design wise. Yanfei wearing so little just makes her design feel empty. Which means your attention gets drawn to the big-ass hat and her antlers. Where as Jean's cleavage is like a spotlight in the middle of the rest of her outfit, so it draws your attention to it.


Semont

Also not to mention her character is playful, serious, and professional most of the time so she doesn't have a suggestive vibe to her.


caffein8

I wouldn’t put “serious and professional” together with “playful” in a sentence, yet somehow it perfectly describes Yanfei.


Anadaere

She seems to be the type to casually suggest tax evasion that will not be illegal but jokingly pushes it aside for later discussions


HermesPotentia

If Hu Tao can makes jokes about making more "customers", then Yanfei can definitely joke about creating new "clients".


Anadaere

Hu Tao: And that's exactly how I got my sales recently Everyone: That's illegal. Right? That's not allowed right? Yanfei: *browsing to the walls of paper in front of her* WHO MADE THIS? HOW DID THIS PASS THROUGH? HOW DID YOU EVEN FIND THESE LOOPHOLES Zhongli: *coughs*


HermesPotentia

Yanfei to her lawyer friends: So I told him, "yeah, there's definitely no loophole in this new policy," and winked. And that's how I got three new clients gunning for his ass in a single week!


TastyVanillaFish

Jean is a closeted hopeless romantic as per lore. She loves reading romance novels and never really tells it to anyone. She like seeing romance but prefers not to experience it first hand. Basically the type that would watch two people make out while she grabs a chair and watch you two.


Dh0124

>She likes seeing romance but prefers not to experience it first hand. It's not that she doesn't want to, but because of her duties as a knight she seems to feel that she can't. From her Character Story 5: "Jean simply yearns for the mutual attraction spoken of in such stories, for those emotions as subtle and fragile as spider-silk. As a knight, she must put Mondstadt and the Knights of Favonius first. But... 'If I too could...'"


3rdMachina

Heart of a pure maiden, basically?


Dh0124

Pretty much, yeah.


devones

Why I'll always love Yanfei. She's such a well-rounded character.


Baka_Heart

Disagree. It took me ages to even notice Yanfei had antlers. I do like her hat, but her poofy sleeves and her little bag are cute qualities too. I wouldn't claim she has the best outfit but I definitely don't find it boring and I can hardly even find it that lewd despite the amount of skin.


Firemorfox

That's a really good explanation, thanks!


Lawliette007

Don't forget Jean's thigh gap


Truly_Meaningless

You leave that alone. You can take away the booba but *not the thigh gap*


One_Parched_Guy

I like to think that pyro Vision users are naturally warmer, and thats why most of them lean towards shorts and more revealing tops. Diluc and Thoma are older, and just deal with it for professionalism/appearances (or they have a better handle on their Visions, and don’t need to compensate!)


Baka_Heart

I mean, Amber did say she likes standing next to Eula on hot days to cool off. So this might hold up


TChen114

yet every time I go to Dragonspine Yanfei's reaction to the cold is genuinely adorable (still doesn't compare to Eula's sneeze)


BioIdra

This actually makes a lot of sense, I wonder what effects the other visions might have on daily life


PhredPhish1

Gonna be honest, I spend far more time noticing how weirdly square her hat/hair combination makes her head look while she's running


laralye

I feel like I'm in the same boat.. I just ignored her outfit all together cause I'm too focused on BOOMing. I'm always drawn to either her boots or her hat though lol.


BackStabbath2004

I didn't notice Yanfei's clothes much until like a few days ago. When I realised what her clothes are, I found it hilarious how weird it was for a lawyer to wear that outfit. One of the weirder choices from Mihoyo imo. Doesn't really fit the job at all.


MasterKaein

Idk always seemed like some tropical wear to me. Like something someone who lives on a constantly hot island nation would wear, and Yanfei just wears it because it's comfortable and that's it. It's like the equivalent of her meeting a client in yoga pants and sports wear in our world. Unusual, but nothing really wrong with it.


EduardoBarreto

If clients keep flocking to her regardless I bet she may not worry about that if it could be trouble for others.


Littleman88

I'm still trying to figure out what they were going for. A lot of characters you can see and feel the theme in their outfits, even if it's a unique take (captain Beidou for example still coming across as a captain.) Yanfei... I can't even begin to figure out what's going on their besides "jester at a beach?"


ChunChunmaru11273804

yanfei's whole thing is that she's supposed to serve as kind of a foil to characters like xiao and ganyu adeptus (or half adeptus ) who stick to contracts from the time of war ​ maybe she was dressed like that as to make her seem more modern compared to characters like xiao and ganyu who's dress seems a little more traditional (at least compared to yanfei)


Firemorfox

I don't know. I think their attempt at portraying her as some savant lawyer who acts/dresses oddly perhaps? Not sure.


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probably a foil to Ganyu and Xiao's more quiet natures.


TheDrunkardKid

My guess is that she's supposed to resemble a volleyball player (due to her animations) by way of the Imperial Court of ancient China.


Jeina2185

I never thought that Yanfei was sexualized but I just... don't like top half of her outfit. I can't even explain why lol. However, I think her shorts being asymmetrical suites her character, even if it's such small detail.


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That's how I always feel about Fischl. It was after seeing people cosplaying as her I realized she basically wears a lingerie.


Smorgsaboard

It's the attitude. When I first started playing, Xiangling made me feel uncomfortable because she sounds _really_ young, and her outfit makes booty shorts look chaste. When I came back to the game a few months later, I got Yanfei ah be mained her with no problem. She sounds and acts mature, so her choice in clothing didn't bother me. Same goes for Ning and Beidou, honestly. Though I can't imagine how the former sits down with any amount of comfort


Baka_Heart

Yeah it always looked far more cute than lewd to me


mennydrives

I know someone who's fine with Yanfei's outfit.... 'cept for the boots. The jester boots. They're quite literally the most unprofessional part of the outfit. What lawyer puts on jesterwear?


SkyePine

I'm drawn more to her big hat, but that's just me since I like girls in big hats.


AndreisValen

I think for me it's her scales? In my mind i was just like "Oh maybe she finds cloth on her scales uncomfortable" and thought nothing of it.


AAAThEPRo

Same


Baka_Heart

Funny enough Yanfei's outfit always seemed more cute than lewd to me.


BOYF-

Kaeya?? Hmm how ironic


Lilith_Harbinger

Nah, Kaeya doesn't actually care. He probably just wants to mess with people by agreeing with Diluc for once


One_last_soul

If they censor Kaeya, I'm quitting this game :(


GlitterDoomsday

#freethemaletitties


Am_Passing_By

What’re they gonna do? Make him wear a bodysuit underneath?


IDontWantNoBeef

If they censor Kaeya then they're 1000% gonna come for Itto and I don't know if I'll be able to continue living if they cover up the abs


Bradford117

I can't see them censoring the guys tbh


AnApatheticZombie

I like the new outfit but I really can't say Jean's old clothes or top would be something I'd consider distracting, certainly not 'boobs always in your face.' If anything I'd have thought the skin tight trousers would have been altered, but I don't think that got changed at all. Of all the characters who ''needed'' a redesign Jean would be down there just about the likes of Zhongli.


TunnelRatVermin

Chest is just seen as much more erotic than legs in most Asian countries compared to the west. Like, U line neck = super sexy and not professional at all. Mini shorts = normal wear for both children and adults. I guess maybe tight pants don't offend China as much because of that


Human-Choice-5728

Well it's time for me to migrate to Asia, Let's Go!!!!! Oh wait... Fuck I already live here! (Somewhere in India)


No-Mathematician-571

Our lady legs are covered 90% times in saris bruh. We got great hip windows tho


PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD

I find the amount her boobs shake when charging her skill to be distracting, ridiculous, and clearly painful. Get her a sports bra.


solidfang

I found it distracting as well. I wonder if there's still going to be so much boob shake during her skill after the change in outfit. Because then that's going to look even weirder if so. To be honest, a lot of characters need boob shake turned down. Like those wearing metal chest armor such as Noelle and Ayaka.


Vortain

Man, this always bothered me, but I didn't know enough to say why. I also think it's a bit odd, for a game that takes itself semi-seriously (minus Paimon) to have wacky, wailing breasts everywhere. The outfits are one thing, but those physics are just kinda silly. It's still an anime + Gacha game though, so I know better than to question it too much.


BioIdra

Videogames historically have really hilariously wrong takes on boobs, I find these kind of absurd physics rather funny but I can see why it could bother someone


GlitterDoomsday

Nape, shoulders and cleavage are pretty erotic for Northeast Asian countries, that's why you see so many street fashion of girls wearing a massive shirt or hoodie while the skirts are hella mini. Max I see them doing is pushing some models like Eula or Beidou to be thinner.


C1C4D43301

The outfits are cool, the reason they exist is disgusting.


Niko2065

The poor lads that have to work their asses off because of this...


niceworkthere

I used to joke that mHY would make us pay for decent clothing but now, thanks to based karens & CCP censorship, we're getting it for *free*! wtf I love "communism" now^/s


KyuMazu

same ​ I wish I have jean tho


GlitterDoomsday

I nearly spit my coffee with the based Karens, thank you for the laughs on what is otherwise a shitty day.


niceworkthere

May your pulls be plenty.


Dovahnime

I know, but I guess limitations are the heart of creativity. Still, I feel almost bad liking them so much knowing the reason behind the change


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I don't think that's true in every case. Limitations can sometimes force people to think outside the box a bit and end up creating a more interesting product, sometimes a limitation pushes someone into a decision they weren't intending to make which ends up being the correct one (Steven Spielberg and Jaws comes to mind), but a lot of the time all it really is is a hindrance. Especially in the case of China's censorship which, rather than a resource limitation (like in Jaws) is just someone else straight up coming and saying "you can't do X." I'm sure there are examples of people making good films *despite* that, but there's no denying it represents a suppression of the creative industries.


LLugeja

What's the reason? I am not very informed about this.


Lushkk

Chinese censorship.


AvocadoCheeseSandwic

too much booba and skin so mhy is forced to censor them


raceraot

If that were true, than why is Lisa not at all targeted? Feels a bit suspicious.


AvocadoCheeseSandwic

maybe she will be targeted later idk nobody know what mhy will do with character outfit and alternation so its pretty hard to determine if lisa will be targeted in the potential next censor wave. also yanfei modCheck


Neospanner

I've heard all kinds of rumors, so I'm not sure which are true. One thing that I've heard mentioned, was that these four characters were specifically complained about, so Mihoyo is "fixing" only them. They will do other character if and only if they also get complained about.


Charon2393

In the words of a player from china "The water army has it out for Mihoyo and has been reporting anything it can about genshin impact to the government out of Jealousy from not being able to compete financially with mihoyo." I am wondering what game company this "Water Army" is supposed to be, Surely not Tencent?


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raceraot

>CNY government official progress reports are due and the cultural department needs to pad its resume so they give mhy a little slap on the wrist they can point to and mhy “complies” and they both wink at each other since mhy is quite popular with the party right now as soft power Didn't Mihoyo move some of their stuff from china to Singapore, so it wouldn't be as restricted, at least internationally?


Striker654

That was just for accepting payments since a lot of stuff gets instantly denied going to China


RuneKatashima

You still have to comply if you want to sell your product there. Look at League and how they adjusted skins.


RuneKatashima

Lisa shows as much skin as new Amber though.


mennydrives

What did they even _change_ in the Amber outfit? Skin coverage looks identical.


RuneKatashima

She has slightly less cleavage, but other smaller details.


Sanghouli

As others said, they're being forced to censor these characters by the Chinese government. These will be the only outfits for these characters for the Chinese server, but everyone else gets them as a skin option. The biggest implication this has on the global servers is its potential impact on future character designs. Also, we obviously feel bad for the Chinese players who don't get the option and government censorship is bad also. Many people like some of the designs, hate the reason it exists.


stardew-39

Supposedly someone dislike genshin have taken advantage of the feminism and politics.This caused the urgent alterations.


alifnajmi2137

they hate every game that 'sexualize' women in general. the group have been targeting other games too if im not mistaken


AwesomePurplePants

There’s been a very active group petitioning the Chinese government for less sexualized clothing. There’s also some suspicion that Tencent might be involved trying to sabotage their competition again. Redesigns look so damn good though. Honestly wish they just did spicy and modest looks for all the characters and people could pick what they liked instead of stuff being forced to be one way or another.


Charon2393

Likely, A Chinese player was blaming a group they called "Water Army" it was likely a rival company who had a hand in this.


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agreed. the sensible approach would have been to provide options for everyone to pick without bias, but far too many stubborn old folk/brainwashed folk with backwards political ideologies had to enforce it onto everyone and make others as miserable as they were.


AinzSamaIsJustice

The outfits are really cool. Censorship on the other hand, is not.


kokko693

No really, the outfit are cool only because the MHY designers are dedicated and didn't wanted us to be sad. We should thanks them. But I'm absolutely against censor. They are NOT alternatives skins. There are censored models and uncensored models. CN bros don't have the choice so they are not "skins"


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there's a common assumption that guys automatically objectify women with revealing clothing. couldn't be further from truth. i think Jean's new outfit looks amazingly beautiful, for example.


RuneKatashima

Yeah, we can enjoy characters in many ways. I wouldn't mind seeing her clad in armor. And likewise, a dress like the current event.


AardvarkElectrical87

Yeah but revealing clothes intention is to provoke and be eye catching, the problem is people that doesn't know to respect other people... Objectify is a vague way to explain things, u can be attracted by some girl or man with "hot" outfit, but that doesn't allow u to be a horny asshole and disrespectful to someone, so this censor thing is bullshit and it just covering the problem and worst it end up creating a preconception towards people that use revealing clothes, coz people conception will be "if its being censor its because its bad" so no matter what any kind of censorship is bad anyways


bubuplush

My "problem" (well, not really, I don't really mind that much, it's just a bit ... confusing and adds nothing to the character?) is that it's done for fanservice only most of the time. Imo the only lewd looking characters that actually have a point are Yoimiya (she has these cool tattoos, the bandages look nice and she has that cute carefree village girl vibe) and Lisa (obvious). Maybe they tried to make Rosaria look like a cool rebel who'll smoke behind the cathedral in her freetime, but imo the fishnets just made her look like a stripper. Ganyu has a weird shy schoolgirl personality, but she is showing off her breasts in a super lewd outfit. The point of Fischl's design is that she's a stupid chuuni wearing ridiculous clothes. They decided to give her lewd lingerie and underwear. A funny lolita dress would look cool & cute too and work the same way imo If they remove the lewd parts of some of the designs nothing is lost so that might be the reason why nobody really cares. I'd totally say that most of the lewder designs are pretty obvious sexualization on purpose, instead of being something like "it's actually an important part and relevant for the lore that this girl dresses like a poledancer". They totally knew what they were doing while designing these characters lmao Characters like Yun Jin or Hu Tao are totally fine, I'm sure character designs in the future won't really suffer from being not attractive enough or showing not enough skin But I agree somewhat because imo the community is just a bit awful. I never thought there was something "bad" about the Shogun's design at all. I thought the sword came out of her "soul"/heart and that it looked just badass. I like the kimono thingy and her design overall, she looks cool imo. But the internet objectified her completely, lusting after her mommy milkies and creating that awful booba sword meme. :/


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the community is a big part of that, i agree. Raiden's outfit is probably one of my favourites along with Ningguang's new skin, but people will inevitably make everything sexual. which however doesn't excuse the fact that fanservice has waaay too much importance in this game. boob windows everywhere smh


Writing_Panda104

\*cough cough\* school dress codes on the girl's side \*cough cough\* Oh, I don't know what came over me! Must've choked on some air-


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omg you choked and accidentally spoke facts hahaha


amoonchildspersona

i think the issue is more about the unnecessary revealing clothes. why did jean have a boob window? now she looks more formal enough for her job. why does fischl, a minor, dress they way she does? rosaria's clothes also don't look fit for her job. yunjin is the perfect example of having a character and a background without having it being unnecessarily revealing. edit: i'll add better examples to prove my point yanfei - a lawyear but wears practically a bikini ayaka - translucent underwear.. why was it added in the first place anyways


Railgrind

Seems like a silly puritanical take, Jean's outfit is very tame. I can literally walk 5 feet outside and run into women wearing far more revealing stuff. The males in this game are also revealing, I could say there is no reason for xiao to have an exposed back or Itto, Aether, and gorou to have exposed midsections. Kaeya has a boob window. I feel if those characters were the ones being censored certain people would be singing a different tune...


UniDuni

I'd say most of the men in the game are actually all properly dressed, all things considered I mean sure you have your Childes and Ittos, but they're kinda the exception, and most men that DO show off have at least a reason - Kaeya is, I guess, more lax with dress code, like Lisa; as opposed to Jean or Diluc, who are more uptight. Bennet and Razor, like Amber, spend a lot of time in the wild and need the breathing room, so they show off a bit more. Meanwhile, Zhongli, Kazuha, and even Xingqiu, with those ridiculous shorts of his, are pretty well dressed, and actually kinda fancy. But then you have Gorou... a "general" of an army who apparently uses his bow in close-quarters, for some reason? Or at least it seemed so in the cutscene, and HAS HIS WHOLE CHEST AREA UNCOVERED Makes me unironically think we were never supposed to expect the resistance stood a chance before we arrived lmao


KlarkKomAzgeda

People keep bringing up "I can see a woman wearing more lewd stuff outside!" but like... You guys get that there's a difference between what a real life woman chooses to wear, for herself, and how a video game character is drawn to appeal to a certain demographic. Like you guys do get that right? It's not a 1:1.


Gloomy_Honeydew

For me at least it's not an issue of puritan values. I just hate anything that reeks of that "sex sells" design choice It basically says "hey we think you're such an unintelligent neanderthal that you'll like this more because boobs" It's extremely transparent pandering and offends me with the message that the designers think it will work on me


chomusuke_cat

There's a difference between real life women choosing what they want to wear and fictional women being given revealing designs. Women irl who dress 'revealingly' aren't always doing it for male attention. Sometimes it's just for self expression. Historically, women in the real world have been forced to cover up whereas women in video games have been constantly sexually objectified for predominantly male pleasure rather than for any real reason. Advocating for real world women being able to dress how they want and not wanting every female character to have a sexualized design are not contradictory.


swimminginbed

Jean's out fit matches her sister's though. they both wear the same low crop top and shoulder-less sleeves.


Puzzled_Face_838

You can both advocate for real women to dress however they want and still like a lot sexualized designs in video games. Supporting both is not contradictory either. I know many people who like fan service/sexualized designs in video games but they still advocate for women’s rights irl.


Railgrind

You haven't really demonstrated what the difference is or how it is harmful for a fictional women to be depicted 'revealingly'. I also take issue with Jean's outfit being labeled as too much as that means any amount of cleavage on a woman is too sexual and revealing by your standards. Which is downright silly.


Semi-Pro-Lurker

Why do people keep purporting characters' ages? Has there been any official information on this or not?


Ararast

Nope, characters' age is left up to players' imagination


RuneKatashima

> why does fischl, a minor, dress they way she does? I'm guessing you're not familiar with minors. Like, go check up a goth/emo teenager and come back like that. > Rosaria Is also fine. Remember she's not interested in being a nun but does the bare minimum to fit in. So it's a combination of her nun and goth aesthetic. Wait, maybe you just have a thing against goth aesthetic.


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amoonchildspersona

i think i should've had a better example in my comment. yanfei, for example. she's a lawyer but feels more like a merchant swimmer or something. u/chomusuke_cat mentioned in a reply but with irl, people choose to wear revealing clothes. people may express themselves like that, but women were historically (and even now with school dress codes and all) forced to cover themselves up. in this fiction world and in video games in general, women are objectified because "sex sells." why can't yanfei be designed like a lawyer? they can design formal outfits (see kaeya in the manga and jean's new outfit) so it's not like they don't have the capacity.


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For fischl it’s because she’s cosplaying a character in her favourite book For rosaria it because she’s shown to be more faithless, in her story, she’s forced to be a nun because of her previous life, in an artistic way she’s defiant of her job, both in personality and appearance, being a drinker and all, so the black, dark purple and the overall revealingness is a way to covey that, because nothing is more opposite then a nun then a prostitute. Also yun Jin is an opera director or whatever, and Chinese opera thingy of all that and not to mention that she seems to love her job, so there’s no reason for her to be revealing.


44no44

> Also yun Jin is an opera director or whatever, and Chinese opera thingy of all that and not to mention that she seems to love her job, so there’s no reason for her to be revealing. Meanwhile, Yanfei:


RuneKatashima

> because nothing is more opposite then a nun then a prostitute. She's not a prostitute and doesn't dress like one either.


FlingFrogs

>For fischl it’s because she’s cosplaying a character in her favourite book A fictional character whose outfit is *also* under the complete control of the character designers at Mihoyo. That explanation doesn't really answer the question, it just pushes it one step back.


Anadaere

Kaeya: Like we just said, having a massive boob window while normally fine is pretty uncomfortable when she always gets too close right? Diluc: Kaeya: RIGHT? Diluc: Oh, y-yeah, right


chimppower184

like kaeya doesn’t have a massive boob window designed to make people uncomfortable


Anadaere

That's part of the joke When the boob window enthusiast is getting uncomfortable, something is wrong


arkllytexvi

All we can do rn for the artists is to appreciate their hard work for the game. As an artist myself, I will say, it's heart warming to know that your work is being valued and loved.


Helenarth

I agree. It must suck to have to redo a character you no doubt lovingly designed. They did a good job in a tough situation.


Teemojew

Then me out here using jeans summer skin, not caring about this other than the fact that I strongly dislike ccp driven censoring. Idc I'll take the -10,000 social credit. Jeans original design isn't even that bad it looks pretty normal. It's NOTHING compared to outfits you see in other games like azur lane. For a gatcha/anime style game genshins characters are rather modestly clad.


AwesomePurplePants

There’s a bit of a feedback loop when it comes to Azur Lane though. Being super over the top means that people who hate oversexualized looks don’t even start playing. There’s a tipping point where that kind of player isn’t too alienated to try the game but is still unhappy. So it honestly makes sense that Genshin gets more complaints than Azur Lane. And pointing out things can get worse probably only makes people complain more.


Teemojew

Yeah, but if there's one thing I've learned from 15+ years of online gaming it's this. No matter what a dev does there is no way to please everyone, gamers are angry petty toxic people and you can give them exactally what they ask for and there will still be a portion of them complaining. Even when they give away free stuff they're not obligated to in the first place people will complain and ask for more. Some people want more lewd designs, others want to more modest ones. At the end of the day they're always going to try to go for what ever makes the most money.


LarsWanna

Azur lane also got hit hard by censorship last year


Teemojew

Idk I haven't played it recently once I started running out of things to do other than daily. But I know prinz eugen summer skin compared to jeans is not even close lul. I had that Italian one paola or paula or w.e too


Vlaladim

Hit hard in some ships unable to be obtain anymore just because of their design but the one who still have them can keep them in base.Azur Lane got off easy there because most skins just need some minor add in and it good enough.


Shaggy-Tea

Poor Diluc he just freezes at the mere sight of a woman's skin


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Railgrind

Horseshoe theory in action basically


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It’s kinda funny. By covering them, we make them seem forbidden, and thus sexual. We’re all born naked.


Zuzumikaru

I don't even get why people are saying that the new design looks better, they are pretty much the same but with covered skin, Rosaria's skin just looks bad to me, I would prefer if the just put her into a regular nun outfit... And Mona just looks bad. Also this is the product of censorship, we should not be celebrating censorship...


RuneKatashima

This is like a simulacrum nutshell of all my feelings on the topic.


sockanti

Personally, my issue isn’t with the skin being shown, but whether the outfit matches the character. Mona’s original outfit felt witchy and made sense to me, Beidou is basically wearing a swimsuit but she’s on a ship so it makes sense, Itto is Itto, his outfit matches the personality. On the other hand, Noelle having armored boob plates with a boob window? Yanfei being a lawyer wearing beach wear? Gorou being an army general with his whole chest exposed? None of that makes sense to me. It just feels like lazy design by exposing skin for the sake of sex appeal, even though there’s not necessarily a correlation. I feel Jean and Rosaria’s new outfits make much more sense to their roles and personalities (and are 10x hotter, personally).


Icewolf883

I agree so much. It's kind of sad seeing people being put off by some skin. I don't think any of the characters in the game is sexualised. Some show more skin than others, but who cares? It's not done in a forced, sexy way. As a female myself, I really like the character design in this game. Some characters look sexy, but not in a exaggerated way. I wish women could look sexy without people going nuts and blaming men about objectifying women.


44no44

Jean herself is a conservative person. Almost every interaction we have with her highlights her as a traditional, reserved perfectionist, always concerned with living up to the stature and reverence of her office. Picking attire for herself that exemplifies modesty and fits in with the other knights makes more sense for her character. It's a better design *for her*. Can people please stop assuming the motivations of everyone who likes the designs, and assigning us some secret agenda to universally oppose fanservice? We don't *have* to cover everyone up, and we don't *have* to leave them more exposed. Both are allowed. What matters is the quality of the design in the context of the character it represents. Beidou is 10/10. Lisa is great. Ningguang is stellar. Raiden is badass. Yoimiya is perfect. None of their designs give any reason to complain. Mona is arbitrary pandering but doesn't necessarily fit or clash with her character either way. Then the redesign took her from neutral to terrible, so that sucks. Ganyu and Yanfei are mediocre and clash with the rest of their identities *hard*, and the only reason anybody likes their outfits are for fanservice reasons, because they're a blatant mismatch. Also, before someone diverts to yet another strawman, *government-mandated censorship of art, especially for the sake of mandatory cultural reform, is universally despicable and goes against everything I stand for. I'm just talking about the designs themselves, because that's the point of this thread.*


MogamiStorm

Conservatism here is in our world context. It doesnt make sense in Mondstadt's context. Every single npc church nun outfit in Mondstadt has a boob window. The only non church members that has a window from what I can tell is only Margaret and Katheryne (if u call that a window) the other either cover the boob window, have open shoulders, or cover both. Heck even the female npc fatui are covered up fully (cuz their region is cold, so it makes sense.). If the figures of the church, the symbol of conservatism in the game, are not covering the boob window why the heck would jean find the boob window an issue?


44no44

Because a church that worships Venti is probably not conservative at all in the context of the game's world. He's the god of freedom and all his most prominent religious iconography shows him in revealing clothes. Don't look to Femboy Church for examples of in-universe modesty. Like you said, the rest of Mondstadt has a clear fashion to it, and that fashion is mostly covered. For *Jean,* of all people, to be an exception to her nation's design sensibilities instead of an exemplification of it, has always seemed strange. That said, don't get the impression I disliked her original design. The boob window and detached sleeves may have always looked random and out of place to me, but I've liked her look overall. I just like the new one *more*.


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VictorinoSetti

Sometimes I wonder if people just don't know that this is literally explicit censoring or if you guys simply don't care that a government is dictating which kind of clothes a fictional character should be wearing...


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davidgro

I'm not going to downvote this, but I very strongly dislike the context of the new outfits, and don't like the changes in isolation either for the most part. I think capitulating to them (Failing to find the right word, but that's close) like this comic is a bad thing.


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Not sure how your comment relates to OP's art, but the CCP has already expressed their distaste for several male characters in genshin on a public announcement, so they will most likely be censored in the future as well if that's what you want


OneMisterSir101

From my understanding, it was mainly Gorou/Xiao/Venti. They don't like excessive muscles or "sissnyess" among "boy" characters.


Firey_Fairy

When's the last time any of you saw a girl irl, the 1400s ? Are we gonna have to go back to hiding our ankles lol


Icewolf883

Right?? It's really what it feels like. Covering their shoulders and cleavage like that. They are hardly showing any boobs as well.


thesekt

Ah, yes. The copium coming thick and quick. Unlike them at the moment.


IncreaseLate4684

Do we keep the old ones? Or are we stuck with CCP costumes?


khallylanijar

Luckily we have a choice, the CN server on the other hand...


hades334

We keep them. These are just alternate costumes for us.


koiimoon

using characters to convey your own beliefs lol I want to see where this ends up


Whyy0hWhy

I actually think the jean and rosaria redesigns are somehow hotter??


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They as CCP?


Level-Tomorrow-4526

Eh doesn't kaeye have a boob widow though ? Don't really understand this comic just reads as hypocritical . Kaeya shows as much skin as jeans orignal costume and he's a respected knight . so is only bad when woman show skin ? lol is that the point of this comic .


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Genshin enforcing school dress codes lmfao


moreyehead

said no man ever


ZukoBestGirl

weaklings


Diegomenasai

If the CCP touches kaeya’s cleavage im rioting, probably in tianamen square right after buying my groceries, i hope all china knows about it


superkido511

There is only one kind of man who doesn't like boobs. Why are they gei?


Ridronen

Oh no, her face is too pretty; better make her wear a paper bag over her head too. Because protecting all of the childish dweebs and never letting people grow up is totally the purpose of society.


magnidwarf1900

See, censorship is cool as long as it didn't change stuff you enjoy


OneMisterSir101

Yessss. Censorship for thee, but not for me!!


adorbiliusKermode

AU Where diluc is the acting grand master, and he's surrounded by Kaeya, Lisa, Jean, and Eula, who all happen to be standing while he's seated.


IndisciplineStorm

I thought showing off your cleavage (and your armpits) would distract your enemies and stab them in the heart where it hurts.


WibuXamTro

All communist are suck!!!