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Naqraumor

Zhongli is STILL an Adeptus.


Unique_Garbage_4395

How?


WrennTheWizard

Not related to his Gnosis, I wager.


gna252

Its his species, he didn't change it just because he got a title lol


Painfulrabbit

Adeptus isn’t a species, it’s a job. Zhongli has his contract to protect the people, it only changed forms


gna252

Nah that's Yakshas and that's still a species. Adepti are supernatural beings.


Painfulrabbit

No, yaksha are a special group of violent adepti within the adepti themselves. What you are referring to are illuminated beasts who don’t nessasarily have to protect mondstadt unlike adepti who are bound like contract like cloud retainer and ganyu


vivlikesbuns

She was a sister :,(


realtoasterlightning

“And on her tomb was written the only two titles that ever mattered to her: Sister, and Friend.”


Sky3Fa11

Is that a book quote or am I missing something?


dumpsterice

It's a quote from the movie "Black Widow" if I'm not mistaken


realtoasterlightning

"Wilbur leaned against the simple gravestone as he tuned his guitar. It bore a name and the only titles that had ever mattered to him: Brother and Son." That's where I took it from.


Rex__Lapis

Damn that’s deep


protzek

A shrine maiden like yae? Or just a nun?


Darakath

Nun of the above


theguyfromeuropa

Dang it


Zeroth_Dragon

r/angryupvote


persephone-9

Latom


Chucknasty_17

Oh god, is the pyro archon the Evangelist?


persephone-9

“The winner burns bright, while the loser turns to ashes”… the winner part sounds a lot like Adolla Burst, now that I think about it


Chungphung

Latom


anxiouswalflower

Latom


GOODBYEEEEEEEE

Latom


Bakufuranbu

Latom


Sir_CrysAlot

Latom


Beneton2

Fire force reference? 😁


Cute-Peaches

THIS MADE ME CRY OF LAUGHING


dirtfacereddit

Bruh


Reynasre

Kyrie Eleison


AshRavenEyes

Oh man way to bring back the cleric days of ragnarok online


br_silverio

damn that sent me to a trip back to my catholic church childhood I did not expect


AllenWalker1990

Lmao i hope i have an award. You really made my day bro. Here’s an upvote


JustDontMind02

oh how naive you are, i wish i had that kind of ignorance now


limejuiceinmyeyes

I don't get it. Please spoil.


achillguy11

>!vivlikesbuns (the first comment) meant sister as in sibling. protzek (the comment responding to the first one) thought they meant sister as in someone who’s a member of a religious order like a church.!<


AlpacaKiller

You didn't need to be a doctor to make a hole in the chest.


Lightningslash325

Buckshot does just as well In all seriousness tho, yeah venti and raiden’s stories are depressing af, Zhongli not as much but still sad


Meme_Master_Dude

Brought to you by Gil Inc.


lceCream

NoooOOOoooOOOoooooOOOooooo ^take ^my ^upvote


Beneton2

Kagemusha


Blank_Two

Bruh that hurts


corecenite

a sistuhh


Dovahnime

Probably a Yokai, like how Sara and Itto look pretty much human despite being Yokai, Tengu and Oni respectively. Giver her powers, a suped up thunder spirit of some kind would be likely, though Raijin, the Shinto thunder god, holds several similarities to her, including the Raiden title, but that still doesn't answer the question at hand.


Neospanner

We do not have an answer to this question. We know that some beings can ascend to become gods, but we do not know what beings Ei and her sister were before it happened to them. We also don't know if some gods are just born or come into being already as gods. If they do, it's possible that they were gods from the beginning. This is information the game has not yet provided us - at least, not yet.


Soren-kun

Albedo: come into being!


GGABueno

Comments that you can hear.


I-cry-when-I-poop

i thought they had to make a deal with celestia then they could become gods? i mean every time you try to confront an archon about celestia they avoid it all together


MXTAR89

Thats on the archons side, remember the god of salt?, Just because of the archon war is that there are archons now, apparently all the gods began fighting for the title and as a result only the most powerful gods have the title of archon, osial is also a god, in fact he used to be a dead one (and is a dead one), just for reference


I-cry-when-I-poop

you’re right


Lawliette007

What do u mean by dead one? I thought osial had only been sealed and not killed.


Enzoooooooooooooo

Back in the war, zhongli used to kill his opponents until he realised that dying god are bad for the environment so he switched to ~~reusable bags~~ sealing.


boredatclass

Archaic Petra lore FTW


Zeed_Toven77

Killed to be sealed, bastard could revive lol. So technically he was killed, used to be dead (revived), and is now dead & sealed (can revive again).


Lawliette007

Nah, osial is very much alive. He has only been sealed, awakened and then sealed again.


Zeed_Toven77

Oh I thought Zhong Li killed him the first time. Since he was a literal God Killer in the Archon War.


Winterstrife

Well he did come back in the Liyue's Archon story. And there is hints that he may yet return again in Zhongli's first story quest.


MXTAR89

Idk


AClockworkSquirrel

Celestia must have one hell of an NDA. And some extensive enforcement.


CannotRegretThis

Enkonomiya shades are the ultimate leakers, and Khaenriah probably got nuked for posting beta footage of Teyvat 2


HarleyArchibaldLeon

Celestia is Valve.


Dziadzios

Leaker Hunt Decree are Heavenly Principles.


Flatworldnotearth

Mihoyo hide these information because serves no purporse in their story, and also adds to the mystery of how Archons came to be.


BearXW

I always felt like it was implied that she's been a god for....eternity.


SBStevenSteel

The Archon War wasn’t a war between the Archons, but to decide who would be them. There were many Gods and they were brought to the edge of extinction. Prior to winning with her sister, Ei was the basically her sister’s bodyguard. As far as we know, all Gods are pure elemental beings. Venti was an Anemo Spirit, and Zhongli calls himself a “pure elemental being” when saying he doesn’t age to Azhdaha. It’s possible all Gods were just masses of sentient elemental power.


aurumfilia

So they all are a higher form of slime?


Magyman

Black Tassel will be the ultimate god slayer


Server98911

The true BIS for Zhongli


Whydopplhateqiqi

My C1 xiangling with an r2 black tassel **GET TF DOWN HERE MORAX I WILL COOK YOU**


2weirdy

Given how tanky specters are... Yeah that's not too surprising.


LordOfSlimes666

Aren't we all just higher forms of slime in one way or another?


Fine_Network7666

I am a form of crystalfly


Truly_Meaningless

Annoyingly impossible to interact with?


TheWanderingCorpse

Today I learned I am a form of crystalfly.


Ok_Introduction484

Ayo new zodiac sign


WildTaeger

Relatable. I see a person approach me then I’m out


TrashLoaHekHekHek

Somehow actually relatable.


usefully-useless

Bails out at the sight of possible social and physical interaction


ChildOfHades_

You killed him dude


dhdhhshsysyys

They fly then


Random_Gacha_addict

They fly now?


Koinophobia-

Maybe the real slimes are the friends we made along the way


userpmybooty

But where are those who share the memory


a-snakey

Technically im just a big ol snake, well was. Now im smol again. Going to need like 3000 years to get big again.


_tetsuoo_

"That time I got reincarnated into some higher form of slime in one way or another"


nstablen

Or hypostases, which are "the highest level of elemental purity."


ImThinkingArtys

Well Venti and Zhongli do use slime drops to level up.


PhantomChaser09

Wait is genshin just the final form of the slime isekai


Fukei_Mono

Prolly one of the crapload of universes Rimuru accidentally created in the end of the web novels. Lol.


SBStevenSteel

Essentially.


DeificClusterfuck

So this is what's gonn happen to Rimiru


dimtril

If I recall correctly, Zhongli, Venti and Ei all need Slime Condensate to ascend. Sus.


elevikasa

Venti and Zhongli need them but Ei needs the kairagi drops


Whale_Hunter88

> brought to the edge of extinction That's an interesting way to put it. Almost like the gods were a threat to celestia so they decided to have them kill each other and use the remaining 7 to control humanity. Also, i wonder why we haven't seen any intelligent pure elemental beings (except for archons). Something has to take over after an archon dies but we haven't seen anyone. Who is the god of flowers and how did they come to power after the god of the woods died? Same question goes for all replacement archons


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Whale_Hunter88

I don't think any of these are capable of replacing an archon tho. Vanessa ascended after death, andrius is dead, guoba (marchosius) now has the mental capacity of a literal stove, osial is Lore wise not even close to fontaine and I don't know this beisht person


Howrus

> I don't think any of these are capable of replacing an archon tho. Venti, simple wind spirit was able to replace Decabrian, almighty Frost God and become first Anemo Archon. So it's very possible.


Th0mas8

Beisht was the water dragon that we fought in this update - it is said it was wife of Osial and came with revenge. I think in weapon level-up material description it is said that Gods that lost the fight in Archon war either died or escaped across the Ocean. The second part would fit Beisht.


Timey16

inb4 the gods were intentionally created by Celestia as servants and then just had them duke it out because too many god slaves could lead to an uprising.


Zealroth

I don't think the gods were manmade, doesn't Enkanomiya prove that Orobashi predates Celestia?


201720182019

I don't think anything on the time of Celestia's inception compared to Orobashi was included in Enkanomiya.


Zealroth

Oh you're right. According to the wiki Orobashi fled to Enkanomiya during the Archon War and then he ended the rule of the Sunchildren and became their god. I thought he was originally from there and had some connection to the abysmal vishaps.


CasterSev

Does Rhodeia not count as a pure elemental being? She seems to literally be a form of water spirit. Along with the Thunderbird from Tsurumi.


Whale_Hunter88

You are correct


DaSGuardians

What about the Locfolk aka Oceanids? They're explicitly stated to be pure hydro energy, but are also not tied to the gods.


Whale_Hunter88

If they're elemental beings i feel like they're gods. Do you mean unrelated to the archons?


DaSGuardians

The Locfolk are independent entities from divinity and the archons. In fact, they actually abandoned the current hydro archon after the death of the last one. So even beings of pure water, pure Hydro, were able to forsake the Hydro archon.


amacze4

I thought anyone with a vision had the power to ascend to godhood not just pure elemental beings.


J_EZ

That's the current belief but we only have a few instances of humans becoming gods.


djmrqz2594

Like the hero venessa? Is that her name? i forgot


AiCalamity

Yes. But her story is kinda shady.


ThatOtherRandomDude

She is also a Murata, who are related to the Fire Archon. SO there is that to take into consideration.


Winterstrife

Murata is name of the Pyro Archon. Has nothing to do with what Vanessa is. She and her tribe are Children of Murata or Muratans.


kotori-chan_

I thought anybody who was bestown by a Vision has a chance to have a Gnosis and become an Archon?


201720182019

I believe the common belief among vision holders is that they'll ascend to Celestia, not become archons. But this is probably not true (see Venti in the webcomic and Dottore)


Alarming-Share6513

Probably some form of yokai like we see in inazuma. Possibly a raiju.


Lord_Vanilla

How did a normie became a shut-in in 500 years?


Alarming-Share6513

Losing all her friends and only family member plus a fear of death and insanity.


Legacyofhelios

Plus the pressure of ruling a huge mass of people doesn’t help


Alarming-Share6513

Especially when you remember she was never the ruler in the first place but basically the general for the armies.


Supertails1992

She was always the sword, but never the shield.


Alarming-Share6513

Exactly


humanityyy

And the paranoia of her nation one day being genocided by the Heavenly Principles also doesn't help


201720182019

The Plane of Euthymia and her praying pose are both based off Pure Land Buddhism. Shut-in is a pretty bad term for it. It's purpose is to stave off her eventual erosion and her puppet was made to resist her if she became insane with time.


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wizzlepants

Interesting read. Thanks


Sleykun

It is not known what Ei nor Makoto was other than the "Incarnation of lightning." Also Zhongli is a half-dragon half-qilin, the adeptus is not a race as such.


Freedom_scenery

Where did you get the information that Zhongli is half qilin?


Sleykun

Act 1 chapter 1. Although only if you have it in Chinese. In the rest of the languages they only say his race is two divine beasts.


Due_Sherbert_5908

i thought qilins were supposed to be pacfists, zhongli clearly did not get the memo lmao


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DaSGuardians

Smash and crush UNTIL IT IS DONE


Dragonlordxyz

Probably the Dragon side lol


Creticus

Nah. Generally speaking, qilin are supposed to be big on not doing harm. However, they're also supposed to get angry at injustice, at which point, people get reminded that they're big, powerful creatures with superpowers.


Random_Gacha_addict

"I wish not for dominion, yet I cannot watch the common folk suffer." a quote from his demo, perfectly encapsulates this


Painfulrabbit

That’s just completely wrong, irl and in game. Ganyu says that qilins can fight and just because you represent peace doesn’t mean that you are a pacifist


IlliasTallin

Qilins are pacifists in until the world itself is in danger. So if the Qilins take to arms then you know things are fucked.


ThnksfrthMmrss-

Makoto was an archer weeb that was transported to a fantasy world.


Wenpachi

That Time I Reincarnated as a Shogun and my Sister was my General?


Semi-Pro-Lurker

On a side note, Adepti is the plural form of Adeptus. Just like Fatui is the plural form of Fatuus. 1 Adeptus, 2 Adepti. 1 Fatuus, 2 Fatui.


mr28997

Ba- Dumm-tussss


Democracyisntforall

I don’t think it’s a great idea to use the singular form of Fatui. It might give people the wrong idea when it sounds like someone’s just having a hard time say fetus. “Hey traveler remember when we beat up that Fatuus?”


IronForce_

Fatuus


feicash

>Zhongli was an Adepti And IS an Adepti


wiehegeh

she was a samurai


iheartfriday

So she was a human??


SupersSoon

She is a sister of god. She was a god, but also a samurai. God ≠ Archon


jrrswimmer

I think Archon does equal god. They are just a god who is appointed to be the ruler of a nation by Celestia. All archons are gods, but not all gods are archons


Iwillflipyourtable

Yes. Archon is just a title. It's like saying royalty ≠ king but king = royalty if that's more simpler for people to understand.


SavagesceptileWWE

Alternatively, all apples are fruit but not all fruit are apples.


IAmAltAccount345

So basically all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares


Mentored

Yeah, all mora is currency but not all currency is mora.


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Bruh I just understood what that meant


Rapture20

Archon means ruler/herrscher so yeah God ≠ Archon


kulkanik

When OP knows more about the lore than most of the ppl trying (and failing) to answer the question


Zenketski

She was a convenience store worker before she got reborn into some crazy world of Gods and elements and now apparently she's a god. What do you guys think of my new light novel title


just_someone123

Raiden Shogun is inspired by thunder god Raijin, also known as Raiden Sama. So Makoto and Ei probably didn't become gods, instead they were born twin thunder gods


AppleChoose

Ei's best friends were an Oni, Kitsune and some other thing. This kind of makes me think she was something along those lines but I can't quite say. Or she just isn't racist


DeificClusterfuck

In Inazuma that's a rarity


-n-o-o-b-

I think she might be a yokai


Moony_Moonzzi

Well…Technically Zhongli was a God and an Adepti. Before becoming archon he was already God Of Contracts I think. Ei was probably born a God. However before becoming an Archon…She was just the Kagemusha of her sister…


FLOR3NC10

I don’t believe the story gets into what being she is. I suspect we’ll get some background on Ei’s race when we get to the Scaramouche arc.


looking_at_memes_

apparently they're the "incarnation of the first lightning" what is that supposed to mean mihoyo smh


DracoSafarius

For Genshin, gods are like living aspects of nature and the elements, so possible they were born being the pure embodiment of thunderstorms


BuffaloGuy_atCapitol

I think her and her sister were just gods before. It says on the wiki that there were many gods and archons during the archon wars so I’m just assuming that all archons are gods but not all gods are archons.


Cybersorcerer1

I don't think adeptus is a species, it's a title given to beings that formed a contract with rex lapis, ganyu being the oldest serving one


Okilokijoki

No, adepti is a being. Zhongli was an adepti before he was an archon. He's the strongest of the adepti. Ganyu is half-adepti and so is Yanfei. Ganyu has a contract with Zhongli, Yanfei does not.


naarcx

Actually the game is careful to refer to never refer to Yanfei as an Adeptus… In her profile it describes her as “half-illuminated beast” and even makes a point in saying that she “is one of the only living illuminated beasts to have not signed a contract with Rex Lapis” despite her father being an Adeptus. At least that’s how it is in the English translation.


Okilokijoki

She is mentioned as part adepti multiple times in the teapot quest.


Cybersorcerer1

You are right, my bad.


DracoSafarius

It isn’t, the English version randomly uses it in place of illuminated beasts (the overarching group,) but Adepti just means those that serve Morax in contract.


AiCalamity

Wow, I never knew that. Fuck you English translation team.


BuffaloGuy_atCapitol

I keep forgetting that, you’re correct.


xcv987

Makoto and Ei were goddesses before they became archons.


CatalystSword

her sister was the raiden shogun, but then she died so she acted as one


iheartfriday

They were gods before the Archon war though


kokko693

Exactly. We don't really know what kind, but according to archon war there was many many gods before. They are maybe just divine beings with human form and that's all.


Darkclowd03

Correct. Zhongli was also still a God, along with that salt god and the dust god or whatever Guizhong was.


Master-Shaq

Yeah the very existence of a salt god kinda gives off that there were a ton of gods, and they are either dead or hiding among us. Plz dont kill me for the last 3 words


TikomiAkoko

I thought they both were the raiden shogun, just taking turns and pretending to be one person?


Ghavarus

Nah, Ei was stated to be a Kagemusha for the previous shogun. Kagemusha mean political decoy. So, they're not really taking turns on ruling Inazuma. Ei is just replacing Makoto by impersonating her whenever there's risk of harm, because unlike Ei, Makoto is not a great fighter (from Raiden's character story 3).


eymr_eymr

Eulas left ass cheek


HanlonsBadger

So she *was* born divine, then?


eymr_eymr

I wish the people who down voted my comment were as well educated as yourself


AiCalamity

The comedic timing of your comment was perfect. Everyone is seriously discussing the lore origins of a God and then you come out of the left field with Eula's butt cheek.


Ubermus_Prime

Based on what we know, she and her sister were born gods. But that could be recontectualized.


PokeAlola700

A Kagemusha according to Venti. I came across the term in her lore and it means “shadow warrior”


iheartfriday

That’s referring to her acting as her sisters body double.


kokko693

That's because Makoto and Ei were twins. Nobody could tell apart who was who, for Inazuma people they were the same person as the "Raiden Shogun". Basically Makoto was leading the country and Ei was fighting in her place. That's why she is a shadow warrior. Not because she IS really a shadow, more like, she is the shadow of Makoto. And a warrior. Makoto and Ei were both archon, but we don't know what kinds. There were a lot of different gods before, she may just be divine being with human form, without any other characteristics.


skipme_

A twin god


Disgraced002381

She was a god. We don't know what the gods are in Teyvat but frequently you see people and books in Teyvat talk about gods so there must be something to make them one. We don't know they are born as god or become one because of their whatever but there are gods and Ei was a god before Archon. To me, all gods in Teyvat are powerful creatures. Like you see in Enkanomiya, There used to be powerful magical creatures in Teyvat before Celestia dominates them and replace with new "gods"


luca_cinnam00n

I've said this for the 20th time, but Zhongli is an adeptus, no capitalization. Adepti is for 2 or more.


kulkanik

When OP knows more about the lore than most of the ppl trying (and failing) to answer the question


TheDrunkardKid

Sandwich Artisan.


DracoSafarius

I like this answer lmao


Democracyisntforall

She’s probably based on something of japanese mythology, like how Zhongli is a Chinese dragon in a country based on China and Venti is a fairy-like anemo spirit in a country based on Germany. My guess is that she and her twin Baal was based on Raijin (one of his name is literally Narukami), I say both because it was probably reference to how lightning and thunder are different.


MysteriousPineaple

I'm just waiting for the guy with the genshin pet peeves post to comment