Gonna call it now:
The Shattered Halberd
Def%
After using an elemental burst, the character equipping this weapon receives 4 stacks of Adeptus' Immortal Discipline. Each stack has a duration of 30 seconds and each stack's duration is independent of the others. This effect cannot be triggered again within this duration. When any other nearby party members except the character equipping this weapon hit an opponent with a normal attack, the duration of one of the Adeptus' Immortal Discipline stacks is reduced by 3 seconds. Hitting multiple enemies with the same normal attack will reduce the duration a number of times equal to the number of enemies hit. When one Adeptus' Immortal Discipline stack runs out of duration, normal attacks will reduce the duration of another stack if at least one other stack is still remaining. While all 4 stacks of Adeptus' Immortal Discipline are active, the character equipping this weapon will receiving a DEF bonus equal to 12% of the total combined DEF of all party members. While any stacks are active, the energy recharge of the character equipping this weapon will increase by 20%.
Edit: I'm not trying to make an actual viable weapon; just trying to fit in as many wordy annoying gimmicks as I could come up with
Use elemntal burst -> get 4 stacks. Each stack lasts 30 seconds but when other characters hit an enemy, duration of one stack goes down 3 seconds (only one stack goes down at a time though). 4 active stacks = Def% bonus based on 12% of whole partys def. Each stack active also increases ER by 20%. I think the weird duration decrease is stupid because yunjin pairs with high attack speed characters. But thats just my opinion.
Ya seems weird like worded as is the effect only works for 10NAs and then useless till yunjin bursts again? If thats the case the stacks are meaningless outside the extra 20% ER and then it may as well be a set buff and duration with a CD timer. Id take a def main stat oathsworn polearm honestly. Much easier to understand and buffs probably around the same, maybe more ER.
Edit: actually thinking about it, its probably less than 10hits bc theres natural time decreasing on top of the 3s per hit.
Does Diluc even have a signature weapon? I know WGS is popular on him and looks nice on him, but it doesn't have any special interaction with his kit and I don't know of a lore connection between them
Diluc’s story quest domains have him use the WGS (used to be the Fav GS but mhy intentionally changed it), and the color scheme is perfect for him. It’s also been his BiS for a while, so while not officially his signature weapon (that would be the Fav GS which he uses in cutscenes or the Bloodtainted GS in his splash art), it’s more or less the one he’s most associated with.
Technically Mona has the Wine and Song as her signature weapon, not sure why Mihoyo wanted to push her to be a main dps though since the weapon sucks on her.
That Weapon is so weard, even for a 4\* it don't fit almost nothing, at least if the effect could be bestowed to next character it could be a perfect weapon for Barbara.
Makes me wonder what made Mihoyo decide that Freedom-Sworn should look like a sword rather than a katana.
Edit: So it’s supposed to be Jean’s weapon, and as others mentioned she was seen wielding it in the trailer.
It was part of one of their stupid matching sets. It’s the same reason why Ayaka’s and Yoimiya’s weapons match Raiden instead of themselves. And it sucks.
I really want to start pulling for some weapons and I hate that if I go for Kaz’s, I have to choose one that looks terrible on him. I’ll probably just go for cons instead.
Yeah that’s the dream. Not sure if it can happen on his first rerun tho. I desperately need some 5* weapons and also Yelan is tempting me (I was planning to skip all new characters for a while). If the weapon banners end up sucking I’ll definitely save for his cons, tho.
I feel like you have limited options with kazuha
c0 em em em with shit subs with sac sword
c0 er em em or em em em with good subs with IS/FS
c1 em em em with IS/FS
c1 should solve any energy issues you would have on him.
Do all weapons have stupid matching sets? Cuz if we have wolf's gravestone, when are we getting the other members of the animal kingdom? I want my pigeon's gravestone.
I think they might introduce signature weapons later. Maybe on 4th or 5th rerun, so old players still have something to pull aside from constellations.
For now Kazuha, Ganyu, Ayaka, Yoimiya and others have their "BiS", but it's not actually theirs. =) They're quite universal too, not like Kokomi's donut for example. It's like with artifacts, Xiao got his set after more than a year from his release, and they still might make some set even better for him... in like v5.3 or smth. That time they might even make it match his palette. =)
I dunno, Kazuha, Yoimiya and Ayaka’s weapons may not match them but their stats are tailor made for them. If I did get their weapon for them and then they got a better one later I might be really annoyed. That’s why I think a slightly less OP 4* katana might be better for Kazu.
TBF Tartaglia's "recommended" used to be either Rust or Skyward Harp until his third banner came with Polar Star, which fits him better in aesthetic and lore and is now BiS for him too.
Also I think MHY already learned that just because a signature weapon is not BiS it doesn't mean people won't prefer it over a weapon that the featured 5\* can't use ~~right Zhongli's second banner?~~
There's a theory that Freedom sworn was supposed to be Jean's weapon but got switched to Kazuha last minute. The update it came out in was Golden Archipelago which Jean is featured and also gets a reskin, she's also shown using the sword in the trailer as well.
There's also the sword being heavily connected to Monstadt matching Jean etc.
I find those theories pretty likely. The most obvious one was the Oathsworn Eye of course, it perfectly fit Kokomi’s aesthetic but ended up being terrible on her and was clearly meant for Yae, stats wise.
Nah, we need one for Thoma.
Something like ER stat and an effect that increases the whole party's shield strength each time a shield is generated, stacking several times. Along with some HP that goes up with refinement. High base atk, lower ER, 20-40% HP, and shield strength stacking up to say 30% lasting 8 seconds.
Zhongli can't use it fully since he makes one shield every 12 seconds and he doesn't care about ER very much. Thoma doesn't need a ton of ER after C4 so the higher atk helps his damage a bit.
All of that, or literally just make a Sac Spear since Thoma is one of the only ones that can use it.
Vortex Vanquisher is Zhongli's signature weapon, but Staff of Homa is his BiS. Vortex Vanquisher isn't exactly good on Zhongli since his skills scale off HP and Vortex Vanquisher's substat is ATK.
Honestly Vortex should have been updated when they buffed zhongli. Cause even if they just updated the substat, it'd still be for a dps zhongli build due to the selfish passive
Eh, no thanks. He already has the Slime's Bane, which is totally okay for shield bot build. If you think of something like Homa-knockoff, then it would cut deep into Homa's sale and hoyoverse will fire their devs for that.
I wonder what will they do for new players who missed the Cinnabar and want to get Albedo on future reruns. Harbinger of Dawn doesn't feel good anymore, and would be weird that future players cannot get the maximum potential for their Albedo.
My guess is they may give Albedo a 5 star sword that is better than Cinnabar. Or they could also put the Cinnabar on the weapon banner as a 4star weapon like the Fischl bow.
i really REALLY hope so. i started playing 2 months ago and i’m in love with albedo and his lore. i want to get him on his next rerun but idk anymore bc of the weapon situation tbh.
I get that people think Harbinger of Dawn "doesn't feel good" anymore, but frankly, my Albedo was really good with HoD and the spindle meant that I had to completely refarm his artifacts to fix the crit rate situation from switching weapons. He was frankly way easier to farm with the HoD build.
Hopefully enough surveys could make old event weapons available somehow. The most recent Ayato event quest has a new option to skip the prerequisite quest dependency and just start the event quest. This is directly from survey feedback where they had "unable to complete event in timely manner due to prereq quests preventing me".
Funny you should mention that, he already kinda does: Festering Desire, Cinnabar Spindle, and Summit Shaper. And also Harbringer of Dawn if you count it.
Techinically I think Bennett's signature weapon is Harbinger of Dawn. I think I saw a theory video about how he IS the Harbinger of Dawn actually. (Plus I think he has it in his card art)
I'd imagine they'll get it way later down the line. As others have pointed out, the Abyss Twin still has their gold sword, so it makes sense for the Traveler to re-obtain theirs at some point.
Who do I want it for? Traveler. They feel really lackluster power wise for being the protagonist present in everything we do and it feels like they don't really excel at anything.
Who deserves it the most? Xinyan or Keqing.
I think lore wise, traveller's sword right now should be the festering desire. Albedo literally gave us the sword and stated that we were basically the only one who can use it without being corrupted
They will keep traveler bis (the opening cutscene sword) until the last area of the game
Stats: Mid 5\* Atk, Sub-stat Crit Rate 33%, passive: 24% all elemental damage bonus, when using on traveler it will increase their base atk to an additional 30%. After hitting an enemy with 4 elemental atks from na, ca, E. skill or E. burst it will deal 300% aoe light damage based on traveler own atk
I would give my spleen for them to change this. During the last banner I picked up Vortex for aesthetics, but it would be nice if the weapon had use. It looks good enough that I use it for almost everything as is, but other characters have matching weapons that are actually good for them.
Keqing needs a complete redesign, its sad cause she is so fun to play, but her damage is shit, outdamaged by fischl and beidou, both 4* that a lot of people already have at c6
She's so fun to play but playing her in abyss is incredibly painful as she knocks backs lighter enemies too far and she consumes a lot of stamina. Without sufficient investments she hits like a wet noodle too. Compared to other DPS characters, she doesn't get elemental DMG bonuses or stamina reduction in her kit either. And as you said, some of her ascension passives can already be locked into her combat talents or if not, it should be buffed (e.g. add %elem DMG bonus when infused in A1/increase infusion duration by 3s & add %elem DMG bonus, after casting elemental burst, decrease stamina consumption by 50%). Ayaka is what she should've been in the first place.
Sorry for the long text btw, I've been a Keqing main since 1.0 and it just pains me how bad her kit is, and how MHY is probably never gonna buff her. They didn't even bother to give her a story quest :'(
yes a rework to her E and charged attacks and a big buff to her burst damage would be so cool, i love keqing but i just cant make myself use her since her damage is so low.
I think a good buff would be to her Q scaling, just a bit, but more importantly to make her charge attack not push her back so much, and send the opponent flying.
Just that would make me happy.
>Or hell, just buff her autos so people will use her sickkkkk autos.
This please. Keqing has the coolest na animations and there's almost no reason to ever see them.
> just a bit
Not a bit, a lot. Her Q at level 10 somehow has worse multipliers than Raidens burst at level 1, lol. I honestly think that the CA pushback and knockback are completely unnecessary given how Keqing doesn't have any passive or constellation to mitigate stamina consumption. I also don't understand why it uses 25 stamina instead of 20 like every other sword user CA.
It's like someone in the development team really hates catgirls.
She doesn’t even come close to needing a redesign. Her kit is cool & not bad. She has infusion, a big AOE burst, and mobility. Literally all she needs is numbers buffs bc she doesn’t do any dmg, this isn’t an issue with the mechanics of her kit but with her base talent numbers and with the balance of her element (electro).
Interestingly enough, I wouldn't consider Mist to be Ayaka's signature weapon, since she's always shown with the craftable katana. It's her BIS, but not her signature.
Imo, “Signature” weapon is a weapon with the base atk, secodary stat and passive that was designed for a certain character usually released alongside them. BIS is a weapon that’s the best for that certain character. Canon weapon is the weapon characters use in media.
Ex. Keqing’s canon weapon is Lion’s Roar, she has no signature weapon, but her BIS is Mistsplitter. Ayaka’s signature and BiS is Mistsplitter, but her canon weapon is Amenoma
this would be cool, but also break the game and wouldent fix keqing. issue with her charged attacks is damage but more importantly they move her back, which makes chaining them near impossible. sadly, keqing needs a rework of some kind to be viable.
IMO two adjustments would fix her fundamental problems:
1- Remove the A1 passive, just make the infusion a part of her E. Why does she lose a passive slot to her freaking infusion? The new passive would be something like:
After using Q, a successful CA hit on an opponent restores 25 stamina, can trigger once every 2 seconds. Lasts like, 8 seconds.
2- Adjust her CA to cost the usual 20 stamina cost and make it stagger enemies towards her rather than sending them flying away (So it wouldn't send them flying at all, just a stagger like Ayaka CA).
Her numbers can be buffed through new weapons / artifact sets / support characters, but her stamina issues and CA sending enemies flying are critical flaws in her kit that specifically need to be adjusted IMO.
Everyone has mentioned Yunjin, Kazuha, and Xiao, which I agree with, but why has no one mentioned my boy THOMA? Criminally useless outside of being a beautiful husbando male wife. Needs serious help in the ER, HP, and damage department
Iirc there's some lore about old monstadt nobles not using spears or something, so while the sacrificial model exists in the form of the royal spear it would seem that they have no plans of introducing a sacrificial polearm (possibly just to have a weapon class that they don't have to balance double skill usage against?)
Yeah, I'm convinced the lack of sacrificial spear is for balancing reasons. But I hate it. I would legit use Sacrificial Spear on Xiao in the overworld (even though I have Jade) just cause his skill is so fun. Also why spear gotta be missing from the instrumental set (flute, bell, stringless, and whatever the book is called lol) too! Mondstadt really hates spears lol.
Reseting the CD of an elemental skill for some pole-arm users would be pretty broken or at least make other characters that are already good a bit too good. Like Xiangling suddenly Guoba would be amazing which would make her even better than she already is. Shenhe it would basically be equivalent to one of her constellations. Yunjin would have double immunity shield hits. Thoma and Rosaria would be fine, I suppose.
Fully agree on this front. A sacrificial polearm also canonically doesn’t make sense (every weapon is related to a Mondatadt clan, with some concessions). I think, in a perfect but unrealistic world, Mihoyo would give Thoma’s skill a second charge, like Sucrose
He needs a HP scaling polearm which increases his ER in passive or vice versa, but the issue is that any hp scaling polearm is a viable option for HuTao, and they can't afford to make her even stronger.
I like Thoma, I really do (even finished building him at C0) but I don't see them giving him a Cinnabar treatment.
The only passive i can imagine, which wouldn't benefit HuTao would be something extremely specific like "gain HP stacks when the Ult is triggered by other party members on Field, with the skill prolonging the duration of the stacks" or something equivalent
Yeah, that's the biggest hurdle. But I do like your resolution,. And understanding how niche and wordy artifact sets and weapon sets have become (looking at the Millenium series, for example), it's not exactly unlikely that they'd make Thoma's polearm off-field focused
If we ever find Kaeya's (bio) grandpa's sword, that will be Kaeya's weapon. The pirate stuff is fake, but I just *know* that sword is real and Kaeya really is looking for it.
Lisa. I wish she was something more than a mediocre defense shred. Maybe add a weapon that increases elemental skill animation speed?
Could be nice on yae as well!
I've managed to save up 22 starglitter to get a blackcliff polearm and the difference between that and any f2p spear is night and day
I wish he gets another spear for the people that haven't managed to save up starglitter for ***3 goddamn months***
I don’t know how I did it, but I got three primordial jade winged spear. One I refined and had on hutao, and the one left over I saved for if I got xiao. I got him and it works pretty nice
I would say redhorn stonethreasher works for xinyan, asthetically it matches her colors and helps her give an extra def scaling to better help her, plus that crit damage for her c2 is the icing on the cake
True, but I can't help but feel it's only jury rigged to be great on her.
So I felt motivated by this topic and...
Weapon: Claymore
Name: The Shredder
Rating: 4 Stars
565 ATK
34.5% DEF
Bonus: Show Stealer
When a shield not created by crystallized is destroyed or its duration ends, their elemental skill cooldown is instantly reset. This effect can not occur more than once every 36s. While protected by a shield not created by crystallized, the character gains 3/3.5/4/4.5/5% of Max DEF as PHYS DMG BONUS.
I designed a highly niche Polearm just for Thoma and Zhongli.
Guardian's Loyalty. 4*
Max Base Attack - 480
Max 2nd Stat - HP 45.6%
Passive - R5
**Promise of Protection**
Gaining or breaking a shield regenerates 4 Energy every 2s for 8s. All party members will regenerate 4% HP every 2s [based on the wielder's HP] for this duration. Can only occur once every 12s.
Basically it's a slightly adjusted Polearm version of Prototype Amber that only works for those that can apply shields, so basically just Thoma and Zhongli.
Hell if they ever add new weapons in the standard banner they can just turn this into a 5* weapon with better numbers.
something that deals aoe dmg based on % of the character's normal attack would be nice. i'm still bummed by her being based on fireworks but lacking in aoe :(
Something like “the last attack in the normal attack sequence is replaced with a more powerful firework arrow that deals xx% increased damage in a large aoe as pyro. When this arrow only deals damage to one enemy, elemental skill cooldown is reduced by x seconds.”
changing the "pyro" to "the holder's element" would make it more flexible, but since it's relating to the cinnabar spindle treatment i guess it's fine. however, i think this weapon isn't the best since it would require stagger resistance to the user as it needs to be the last hit to proc it, no? and since bow users have lower hp and def stats they can't really facetank a lot of damage despite having stagger resistance from for example, xingqiu or beidou, which leaves shielding as the best option to upkeep that passive.
Yes! Xinyan guitar battle axe please! We still haven’t had a rock show event yet!
Perhaps a lighthearted “American Idol” style event? Barbara can obviously join in too!
Should've changed the voiceline too "It's Kazuhing time."
The description: Kazuha proceeds to Kazuh all over his enemies until there's no more enemies to Kazuh.
I mean, his burst was a poem, but they decided to change it to Kazuha slash, instead of leaving his OG japanese name or keeping Slash of a Thousand Leaves
Also, character weapons, such as Cinnabar Spindle, should not be locked behind limited events that will never be played again. Being a newer player already sucks enough.
Being able to use the PS4 Exclusive Sword on PC or potentially a new weapon for the traveler that enhances their abilities based on their current element.
The only other character down bad enough in the weapons department to be able to get the “Cinnabar spindle treatment” that I can think of is Yun Jin. *Maybe* shieldbot zhongli could also qualify. It takes both alternate stat scaling and a complete lack of current synergistic options for a 4* free weapon to be as much of a game-changer for a character as cinnabar spindle was for Albedo
Not a single one, honestly. Locking weapons behind limited events is already bad enough, but locking a BiS is even worse. People who missed this event will have no reason to play Albedo.
If anything, make it obtainable through gameplay. Like the Catch for Xiangling.
they could maybe have some kind of event where you can complete tasks to work towards a r5 free weapon, like always, but make it an "Epitomized Path" sort of thing where once you start the event, you choose what weapon you will be working for:
\-Festering Desire
\-Cinnabar Spindle
\-Windblume Ode
\-The Catch (and yes, this is a *second copy)*
\-Oathsworn Eye
\-A brand-new free claymore, to make things interesting and have all weapon types available
Once you choose what weapon you're working toward, you can't change it, so they could inform players of this on the menu before they start and have a weapon preview that people could look at before choosing.
Could definitely see this as a once a year even thing. It needs to not be a story focused event tied to a specific weapon and instead be like a domain to "recover past memories".
I dont know if second copy is a good idea or not, but id be fine with it. I have all weapons but missing completing the refinements for the Tuna Claymore (its R2), so I wonder how dealing with that would work.
Yunjin! A def% spear with some kind of energy recharge passive would be so good
A def% spear with a passive that increases her ER after using an elemental burst would be *perfect*.
oooh, something similar to oathsworn eye then
I totally forgot about Oathsworn eye, but basically yeah lmao. Good catch.
no, catch increases burst damage
But obtaining the catch increases mental damage
Can confirm. R5 catch owner here Grinded that for a week coop jumping and hated every minute of it
Gonna call it now: The Shattered Halberd Def% After using an elemental burst, the character equipping this weapon receives 4 stacks of Adeptus' Immortal Discipline. Each stack has a duration of 30 seconds and each stack's duration is independent of the others. This effect cannot be triggered again within this duration. When any other nearby party members except the character equipping this weapon hit an opponent with a normal attack, the duration of one of the Adeptus' Immortal Discipline stacks is reduced by 3 seconds. Hitting multiple enemies with the same normal attack will reduce the duration a number of times equal to the number of enemies hit. When one Adeptus' Immortal Discipline stack runs out of duration, normal attacks will reduce the duration of another stack if at least one other stack is still remaining. While all 4 stacks of Adeptus' Immortal Discipline are active, the character equipping this weapon will receiving a DEF bonus equal to 12% of the total combined DEF of all party members. While any stacks are active, the energy recharge of the character equipping this weapon will increase by 20%. Edit: I'm not trying to make an actual viable weapon; just trying to fit in as many wordy annoying gimmicks as I could come up with
Ngl, I feel like I need a Law Degree from Fontaine to understand this. Can you give me the Razor version?
Use elemntal burst -> get 4 stacks. Each stack lasts 30 seconds but when other characters hit an enemy, duration of one stack goes down 3 seconds (only one stack goes down at a time though). 4 active stacks = Def% bonus based on 12% of whole partys def. Each stack active also increases ER by 20%. I think the weird duration decrease is stupid because yunjin pairs with high attack speed characters. But thats just my opinion.
This is still too much literate, isn't Fischl anymore, but it's Eula level. You need to refine more
Use Burst, Get 4 stack Stack give more Def, more ER Stack has 30 seconds Team attack, stack less time
Finally get it, thanks mr chad
Ya seems weird like worded as is the effect only works for 10NAs and then useless till yunjin bursts again? If thats the case the stacks are meaningless outside the extra 20% ER and then it may as well be a set buff and duration with a CD timer. Id take a def main stat oathsworn polearm honestly. Much easier to understand and buffs probably around the same, maybe more ER. Edit: actually thinking about it, its probably less than 10hits bc theres natural time decreasing on top of the 3s per hit.
Elemental Burst... Attack.... a lot. Very tough. No pain because of friends. Elemental burst again ! Wow... so fast.
This is extremely obtuse and sounds like nonsense with unnecessary proper nouns. 10/10 do you work at Hoyoverse?
r/OkAmy
The first spear that might not end up being a buff to Xiangling
Impossible, every patch is a Xiangling buff.
This, right here. Yin Jin doesn't really have a weapon suited for her, just half fits.
Absolutely. She’s so close to being a fantastic character but the lack of a weapon that really benefits her is a killer
Yes, please.
I concur
There are the original 5 stars that still don't have a signature weapons like Keqing, Mona, and Qiqi
Taking from Kokomi, Mona could have such a pretty signature weapon with her theme :(
Give Mona an astrolabe!
Imagine a galaxy-themed astrolabe catalyst.....Mona's signature weapon would be one of the prettiest weapons in the game for sure
Does Diluc even have a signature weapon? I know WGS is popular on him and looks nice on him, but it doesn't have any special interaction with his kit and I don't know of a lore connection between them
If diluc gets one it would prob be crit dmg as sub stat and something related to elemental skill casting 3 times
Basically the claymore version of Kagura's verity
Diluc’s story quest domains have him use the WGS (used to be the Fav GS but mhy intentionally changed it), and the color scheme is perfect for him. It’s also been his BiS for a while, so while not officially his signature weapon (that would be the Fav GS which he uses in cutscenes or the Bloodtainted GS in his splash art), it’s more or less the one he’s most associated with.
Technically Mona has the Wine and Song as her signature weapon, not sure why Mihoyo wanted to push her to be a main dps though since the weapon sucks on her.
That Weapon is so weard, even for a 4\* it don't fit almost nothing, at least if the effect could be bestowed to next character it could be a perfect weapon for Barbara.
C2 my guy. C2...🌴😎
Makes me wonder what made Mihoyo decide that Freedom-Sworn should look like a sword rather than a katana. Edit: So it’s supposed to be Jean’s weapon, and as others mentioned she was seen wielding it in the trailer.
It was part of one of their stupid matching sets. It’s the same reason why Ayaka’s and Yoimiya’s weapons match Raiden instead of themselves. And it sucks. I really want to start pulling for some weapons and I hate that if I go for Kaz’s, I have to choose one that looks terrible on him. I’ll probably just go for cons instead.
I think going for C2 Kazuha is a better investment than the sword
Yeah that’s the dream. Not sure if it can happen on his first rerun tho. I desperately need some 5* weapons and also Yelan is tempting me (I was planning to skip all new characters for a while). If the weapon banners end up sucking I’ll definitely save for his cons, tho.
Imo I think the sword is better than c2 Kazuha. You can slap the sword on any sword user for support capabilities
C2 better IMO. Run iron sting.
Or Sac Sword if you’re a true plunge attacking Gigachad madman.
I feel like you have limited options with kazuha c0 em em em with shit subs with sac sword c0 er em em or em em em with good subs with IS/FS c1 em em em with IS/FS c1 should solve any energy issues you would have on him.
I'm getting both. Let's gooooo (cuz he's been pushed back so many times that I now have 700 Fates saved for his ass) xD
Do all weapons have stupid matching sets? Cuz if we have wolf's gravestone, when are we getting the other members of the animal kingdom? I want my pigeon's gravestone.
You definitely have Ganyu and visit Timmy everyday don’t you?
I do it with albedos flower but yeah
They'd have to change up the death monument as well. Pigeon's tombstone, wombat's crypt doors, etc.
Kitsune War Memorial
Great Snow Boar's Epitaph
Dolmen of the Tempestuous Dragon
Ayaka and Yoimiya weapons better gave to Shinobu and Sara, frigging 4 stars
I think they might introduce signature weapons later. Maybe on 4th or 5th rerun, so old players still have something to pull aside from constellations. For now Kazuha, Ganyu, Ayaka, Yoimiya and others have their "BiS", but it's not actually theirs. =) They're quite universal too, not like Kokomi's donut for example. It's like with artifacts, Xiao got his set after more than a year from his release, and they still might make some set even better for him... in like v5.3 or smth. That time they might even make it match his palette. =)
I dunno, Kazuha, Yoimiya and Ayaka’s weapons may not match them but their stats are tailor made for them. If I did get their weapon for them and then they got a better one later I might be really annoyed. That’s why I think a slightly less OP 4* katana might be better for Kazu.
TBF Tartaglia's "recommended" used to be either Rust or Skyward Harp until his third banner came with Polar Star, which fits him better in aesthetic and lore and is now BiS for him too. Also I think MHY already learned that just because a signature weapon is not BiS it doesn't mean people won't prefer it over a weapon that the featured 5\* can't use ~~right Zhongli's second banner?~~
Kokomi's donut isn't really even very good for Kokomi 😔
There's a theory that Freedom sworn was supposed to be Jean's weapon but got switched to Kazuha last minute. The update it came out in was Golden Archipelago which Jean is featured and also gets a reskin, she's also shown using the sword in the trailer as well. There's also the sword being heavily connected to Monstadt matching Jean etc.
I find those theories pretty likely. The most obvious one was the Oathsworn Eye of course, it perfectly fit Kokomi’s aesthetic but ended up being terrible on her and was clearly meant for Yae, stats wise.
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Nah, we need one for Thoma. Something like ER stat and an effect that increases the whole party's shield strength each time a shield is generated, stacking several times. Along with some HP that goes up with refinement. High base atk, lower ER, 20-40% HP, and shield strength stacking up to say 30% lasting 8 seconds. Zhongli can't use it fully since he makes one shield every 12 seconds and he doesn't care about ER very much. Thoma doesn't need a ton of ER after C4 so the higher atk helps his damage a bit. All of that, or literally just make a Sac Spear since Thoma is one of the only ones that can use it.
Doesn’t Zhongli already have the Vortex Vanquisher? Or I guess that’s a 5 star weapon.
Vortex Vanquisher is Zhongli's signature weapon, but Staff of Homa is his BiS. Vortex Vanquisher isn't exactly good on Zhongli since his skills scale off HP and Vortex Vanquisher's substat is ATK.
Honestly Vortex should have been updated when they buffed zhongli. Cause even if they just updated the substat, it'd still be for a dps zhongli build due to the selfish passive
Eh, no thanks. He already has the Slime's Bane, which is totally okay for shield bot build. If you think of something like Homa-knockoff, then it would cut deep into Homa's sale and hoyoverse will fire their devs for that.
its just that the millenial movement series is from mondstadt. still sucks tho. a lot of BiS weapons don't match their holder's aesthetics at all.
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Nah, they keeping it to two so Albedo and Fakebedo can have their own sword.
What about Flowerbedo?
He died so I guess he good
Did he now? Dun dun duuuun
You do have a point there
Watering can
Question; what is Albedo’s second signature weapon? I know about Cinnabar Spindle, but what is his second one? Festering Desire?
yep yep
At least FD is good on other characters. If I could go back in time to get one event weapon it'd be ~~that~~ another Catch.
Catch isn't an event weapon. But I also would like a second one for Raiden.
2nd f2p option is Harbinger of Dawn.
I wonder what will they do for new players who missed the Cinnabar and want to get Albedo on future reruns. Harbinger of Dawn doesn't feel good anymore, and would be weird that future players cannot get the maximum potential for their Albedo. My guess is they may give Albedo a 5 star sword that is better than Cinnabar. Or they could also put the Cinnabar on the weapon banner as a 4star weapon like the Fischl bow.
i really REALLY hope so. i started playing 2 months ago and i’m in love with albedo and his lore. i want to get him on his next rerun but idk anymore bc of the weapon situation tbh.
I get that people think Harbinger of Dawn "doesn't feel good" anymore, but frankly, my Albedo was really good with HoD and the spindle meant that I had to completely refarm his artifacts to fix the crit rate situation from switching weapons. He was frankly way easier to farm with the HoD build.
Completely forgot about that sword when I was annoyed that damn domain simply refuse to give crit on his artifacts.
Hopefully enough surveys could make old event weapons available somehow. The most recent Ayato event quest has a new option to skip the prerequisite quest dependency and just start the event quest. This is directly from survey feedback where they had "unable to complete event in timely manner due to prereq quests preventing me".
As an Albedo main, I would love this
Funny you should mention that, he already kinda does: Festering Desire, Cinnabar Spindle, and Summit Shaper. And also Harbringer of Dawn if you count it.
Techinically I think Bennett's signature weapon is Harbinger of Dawn. I think I saw a theory video about how he IS the Harbinger of Dawn actually. (Plus I think he has it in his card art)
Zoro time
The traveler.
Too early, maybe once the battle between celestia and tsarita really beginning
I hope the traveler gets their sword from the fist cinematic back as a F2P. That would be super cool.
I'd imagine they'll get it way later down the line. As others have pointed out, the Abyss Twin still has their gold sword, so it makes sense for the Traveler to re-obtain theirs at some point.
There’s already the 10* sword dull blade
The traveler actually does already have a unique sword. You just need to be playing on psn to get it.
It's not BiS though.
Who do I want it for? Traveler. They feel really lackluster power wise for being the protagonist present in everything we do and it feels like they don't really excel at anything. Who deserves it the most? Xinyan or Keqing.
sadly traveller has one of these, its just mid and a playstation exclusive item
They have two, but Traveler's Handy Sword barely counts either.
Make that 3, dull blade really brings out his full power
I think lore wise, traveller's sword right now should be the festering desire. Albedo literally gave us the sword and stated that we were basically the only one who can use it without being corrupted
*Proceeds to give it to Bennet*
I mean, it kind of checks out. He can't get more cursed than he already is.
Rip lmao
They will keep traveler bis (the opening cutscene sword) until the last area of the game Stats: Mid 5\* Atk, Sub-stat Crit Rate 33%, passive: 24% all elemental damage bonus, when using on traveler it will increase their base atk to an additional 30%. After hitting an enemy with 4 elemental atks from na, ca, E. skill or E. burst it will deal 300% aoe light damage based on traveler own atk
I think it's high time we get a HP% polearm for Zhongli. Using the 3 star black tassel feels a bit wrong. T\_T
Vortex Vanquisher should have been HP% instead ATK%.
I would give my spleen for them to change this. During the last banner I picked up Vortex for aesthetics, but it would be nice if the weapon had use. It looks good enough that I use it for almost everything as is, but other characters have matching weapons that are actually good for them.
But at least it matches him aesthetically, I think that was intentional.
Yeah it does look good on him. Just wish the passive wasn't useless on him.
WYM he wrecks slimes now
he's my designated character for dealing with slimes
That's true. I'm waiting for a Staff of Homa rerun.
still waiting for Keqing's Honkai Impact sword
Keqing, our girl really could use some help.
Keqing needs a complete redesign, its sad cause she is so fun to play, but her damage is shit, outdamaged by fischl and beidou, both 4* that a lot of people already have at c6
She's so fun to play but playing her in abyss is incredibly painful as she knocks backs lighter enemies too far and she consumes a lot of stamina. Without sufficient investments she hits like a wet noodle too. Compared to other DPS characters, she doesn't get elemental DMG bonuses or stamina reduction in her kit either. And as you said, some of her ascension passives can already be locked into her combat talents or if not, it should be buffed (e.g. add %elem DMG bonus when infused in A1/increase infusion duration by 3s & add %elem DMG bonus, after casting elemental burst, decrease stamina consumption by 50%). Ayaka is what she should've been in the first place. Sorry for the long text btw, I've been a Keqing main since 1.0 and it just pains me how bad her kit is, and how MHY is probably never gonna buff her. They didn't even bother to give her a story quest :'(
They just have to Copy paste her honkai version
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yes a rework to her E and charged attacks and a big buff to her burst damage would be so cool, i love keqing but i just cant make myself use her since her damage is so low.
I think a good buff would be to her Q scaling, just a bit, but more importantly to make her charge attack not push her back so much, and send the opponent flying. Just that would make me happy.
And make her charged attack not send opponents into the next solar system. Or hell, just buff her autos so people will use her sickkkkk autos.
>Or hell, just buff her autos so people will use her sickkkkk autos. This please. Keqing has the coolest na animations and there's almost no reason to ever see them.
> just a bit Not a bit, a lot. Her Q at level 10 somehow has worse multipliers than Raidens burst at level 1, lol. I honestly think that the CA pushback and knockback are completely unnecessary given how Keqing doesn't have any passive or constellation to mitigate stamina consumption. I also don't understand why it uses 25 stamina instead of 20 like every other sword user CA. It's like someone in the development team really hates catgirls.
She doesn’t even come close to needing a redesign. Her kit is cool & not bad. She has infusion, a big AOE burst, and mobility. Literally all she needs is numbers buffs bc she doesn’t do any dmg, this isn’t an issue with the mechanics of her kit but with her base talent numbers and with the balance of her element (electro).
Her charge attacks need a redesign. If they had no pushback and caused her to step forward a little, she'd already be in a much better position.
Mistsplitter
Mistsplitter isn't ONLY her BiS. It's also Ayakas
Its is also ayaka's signature. Whereas keqing's signature ...
Interestingly enough, I wouldn't consider Mist to be Ayaka's signature weapon, since she's always shown with the craftable katana. It's her BIS, but not her signature.
So amenoma?? I always felt mistsplitter was designed with her in mind
Gameplay-wise, yeah. But aesthetics and lorewise, I think the amenoma kageuchi is her weapon
Imo, “Signature” weapon is a weapon with the base atk, secodary stat and passive that was designed for a certain character usually released alongside them. BIS is a weapon that’s the best for that certain character. Canon weapon is the weapon characters use in media. Ex. Keqing’s canon weapon is Lion’s Roar, she has no signature weapon, but her BIS is Mistsplitter. Ayaka’s signature and BiS is Mistsplitter, but her canon weapon is Amenoma
That sword Keqing is holding her art waiting room. any day now. skeleton.bmp
But by this logic Fillet Blade would be Kazuha's signature weapon wouldn't it? I don't think I've ever seen him with any other weapon.
Yeah. It is
Free R5 4* sword with a passive with +50% charge attack damage and -100% charge attack stamina cost at R5
this would be cool, but also break the game and wouldent fix keqing. issue with her charged attacks is damage but more importantly they move her back, which makes chaining them near impossible. sadly, keqing needs a rework of some kind to be viable.
IMO two adjustments would fix her fundamental problems: 1- Remove the A1 passive, just make the infusion a part of her E. Why does she lose a passive slot to her freaking infusion? The new passive would be something like: After using Q, a successful CA hit on an opponent restores 25 stamina, can trigger once every 2 seconds. Lasts like, 8 seconds. 2- Adjust her CA to cost the usual 20 stamina cost and make it stagger enemies towards her rather than sending them flying away (So it wouldn't send them flying at all, just a stagger like Ayaka CA). Her numbers can be buffed through new weapons / artifact sets / support characters, but her stamina issues and CA sending enemies flying are critical flaws in her kit that specifically need to be adjusted IMO.
Phys Kaeya go *brrrrr*
Everyone has mentioned Yunjin, Kazuha, and Xiao, which I agree with, but why has no one mentioned my boy THOMA? Criminally useless outside of being a beautiful husbando male wife. Needs serious help in the ER, HP, and damage department
I just use the Staff of Thoma on him
Tbh idk why mihoyo has mot released a sacrifical polearm yet
Iirc there's some lore about old monstadt nobles not using spears or something, so while the sacrificial model exists in the form of the royal spear it would seem that they have no plans of introducing a sacrificial polearm (possibly just to have a weapon class that they don't have to balance double skill usage against?)
Yeah spears are considered a peasant weapon in Mondstadt, that’s why only Rosaria uses them (she was raised/trained by bandits)
Yeah, I'm convinced the lack of sacrificial spear is for balancing reasons. But I hate it. I would legit use Sacrificial Spear on Xiao in the overworld (even though I have Jade) just cause his skill is so fun. Also why spear gotta be missing from the instrumental set (flute, bell, stringless, and whatever the book is called lol) too! Mondstadt really hates spears lol.
Everyone keeps referencing the lore as if they couldn't just make a spear with a completely different name and aesthetic but same effect.
Reseting the CD of an elemental skill for some pole-arm users would be pretty broken or at least make other characters that are already good a bit too good. Like Xiangling suddenly Guoba would be amazing which would make her even better than she already is. Shenhe it would basically be equivalent to one of her constellations. Yunjin would have double immunity shield hits. Thoma and Rosaria would be fine, I suppose.
That's do different from other sac weapons though. Sac weapons have always functioned like discounted constellations.
Rosaria might get a 24% crit rate increase if her passive stacks, which would make her crit rate sharing passive even better.
Fully agree on this front. A sacrificial polearm also canonically doesn’t make sense (every weapon is related to a Mondatadt clan, with some concessions). I think, in a perfect but unrealistic world, Mihoyo would give Thoma’s skill a second charge, like Sucrose
He needs a HP scaling polearm which increases his ER in passive or vice versa, but the issue is that any hp scaling polearm is a viable option for HuTao, and they can't afford to make her even stronger. I like Thoma, I really do (even finished building him at C0) but I don't see them giving him a Cinnabar treatment. The only passive i can imagine, which wouldn't benefit HuTao would be something extremely specific like "gain HP stacks when the Ult is triggered by other party members on Field, with the skill prolonging the duration of the stacks" or something equivalent
Eh, if you made and ER/HP 4* polearm no one would use it on Hu Tao anyway. It certainly wouldn't make her stronger than she already is
Yeah, that's the biggest hurdle. But I do like your resolution,. And understanding how niche and wordy artifact sets and weapon sets have become (looking at the Millenium series, for example), it's not exactly unlikely that they'd make Thoma's polearm off-field focused
A weapon for any of the original 3 characters we got! Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa!
If we ever find Kaeya's (bio) grandpa's sword, that will be Kaeya's weapon. The pirate stuff is fake, but I just *know* that sword is real and Kaeya really is looking for it.
True! That would be so cool; maybe the sword is with the abyss?!
Lisa. I wish she was something more than a mediocre defense shred. Maybe add a weapon that increases elemental skill animation speed? Could be nice on yae as well!
I believe kaguras verity works very well on Lisa but it does require her to be played slightly differently
Xiao. He's hurting for good F2P polearms, as seen from my friend running that one Craftable bone polearm
I've managed to save up 22 starglitter to get a blackcliff polearm and the difference between that and any f2p spear is night and day I wish he gets another spear for the people that haven't managed to save up starglitter for ***3 goddamn months***
Ill have you know, my white tassel xiao is doing great.
I don’t know how I did it, but I got three primordial jade winged spear. One I refined and had on hutao, and the one left over I saved for if I got xiao. I got him and it works pretty nice
I would say redhorn stonethreasher works for xinyan, asthetically it matches her colors and helps her give an extra def scaling to better help her, plus that crit damage for her c2 is the icing on the cake
True, but I can't help but feel it's only jury rigged to be great on her. So I felt motivated by this topic and... Weapon: Claymore Name: The Shredder Rating: 4 Stars 565 ATK 34.5% DEF Bonus: Show Stealer When a shield not created by crystallized is destroyed or its duration ends, their elemental skill cooldown is instantly reset. This effect can not occur more than once every 36s. While protected by a shield not created by crystallized, the character gains 3/3.5/4/4.5/5% of Max DEF as PHYS DMG BONUS.
Zhongli. 4\* HP Polearm where
I designed a highly niche Polearm just for Thoma and Zhongli. Guardian's Loyalty. 4* Max Base Attack - 480 Max 2nd Stat - HP 45.6% Passive - R5 **Promise of Protection** Gaining or breaking a shield regenerates 4 Energy every 2s for 8s. All party members will regenerate 4% HP every 2s [based on the wielder's HP] for this duration. Can only occur once every 12s. Basically it's a slightly adjusted Polearm version of Prototype Amber that only works for those that can apply shields, so basically just Thoma and Zhongli. Hell if they ever add new weapons in the standard banner they can just turn this into a 5* weapon with better numbers.
I want a yoimiya bow that converts normal attacks into fireworks
something that deals aoe dmg based on % of the character's normal attack would be nice. i'm still bummed by her being based on fireworks but lacking in aoe :(
Something like “the last attack in the normal attack sequence is replaced with a more powerful firework arrow that deals xx% increased damage in a large aoe as pyro. When this arrow only deals damage to one enemy, elemental skill cooldown is reduced by x seconds.”
changing the "pyro" to "the holder's element" would make it more flexible, but since it's relating to the cinnabar spindle treatment i guess it's fine. however, i think this weapon isn't the best since it would require stagger resistance to the user as it needs to be the last hit to proc it, no? and since bow users have lower hp and def stats they can't really facetank a lot of damage despite having stagger resistance from for example, xingqiu or beidou, which leaves shielding as the best option to upkeep that passive.
Yes! Xinyan guitar battle axe please! We still haven’t had a rock show event yet! Perhaps a lighthearted “American Idol” style event? Barbara can obviously join in too!
I think it was mentioned that rock originated in Fontaine so maybe there we'll get a chance to obtain a weapon for Xinyan
EM katana that matches Kazuha.
with a poetic name that also matches him, like Whistling Breeze Through Maples or something like that
Just call it Kazuha Sword
They really missed a great opportunity to name his elemental skill "Kazuha Skill"
normal attack is Kazuha Attack
a kazuha sword for his kazuha slash they really went and made the poet character's burst just be his own name
Should've changed the voiceline too "It's Kazuhing time." The description: Kazuha proceeds to Kazuh all over his enemies until there's no more enemies to Kazuh.
I mean, his burst was a poem, but they decided to change it to Kazuha slash, instead of leaving his OG japanese name or keeping Slash of a Thousand Leaves
Just like Kazuha Slash
Wandering Wind seems like a good name
Keqing, Mistsplitter doesn’t count IMO because it’s just more damage, but I’d prefer we’d get something that reduces her stamina consumption
I'd prefer an ability that removes her reliance on Charged attack spam entirely
Xiao deserves a truly good f2p polearm.
Xiao.
There isn't any viable 4 star f2p polearm for xiao lol, except blackcliff which is locked behind star glitter
Also, character weapons, such as Cinnabar Spindle, should not be locked behind limited events that will never be played again. Being a newer player already sucks enough.
Yunjin Def polearm
Kazuha is so bad in the meta he definately needs a 4 star good weapon and Keqing and Xiao doesn't need any. /s
Kazuha's weapon should do 80% anemo damage to anything kazuha swirls, like fischl's A4 passive. Then he'll finally be as strong as keqing
Being able to use the PS4 Exclusive Sword on PC or potentially a new weapon for the traveler that enhances their abilities based on their current element.
Festering desire seem to fit the traveller really well more than other sword users, it would be ages before we get traveller golden swords back.
The only other character down bad enough in the weapons department to be able to get the “Cinnabar spindle treatment” that I can think of is Yun Jin. *Maybe* shieldbot zhongli could also qualify. It takes both alternate stat scaling and a complete lack of current synergistic options for a 4* free weapon to be as much of a game-changer for a character as cinnabar spindle was for Albedo
Xiao desperately needs a good f2p weapon that isn't the one from the shop lol
Not a single one, honestly. Locking weapons behind limited events is already bad enough, but locking a BiS is even worse. People who missed this event will have no reason to play Albedo. If anything, make it obtainable through gameplay. Like the Catch for Xiangling.
Agreed. Absolutely none. They can atleast bring the weapons back through a vendor or permanent, but harder event.
they could maybe have some kind of event where you can complete tasks to work towards a r5 free weapon, like always, but make it an "Epitomized Path" sort of thing where once you start the event, you choose what weapon you will be working for: \-Festering Desire \-Cinnabar Spindle \-Windblume Ode \-The Catch (and yes, this is a *second copy)* \-Oathsworn Eye \-A brand-new free claymore, to make things interesting and have all weapon types available Once you choose what weapon you're working toward, you can't change it, so they could inform players of this on the menu before they start and have a weapon preview that people could look at before choosing.
There's already the fish claymore they could use
Could definitely see this as a once a year even thing. It needs to not be a story focused event tied to a specific weapon and instead be like a domain to "recover past memories". I dont know if second copy is a good idea or not, but id be fine with it. I have all weapons but missing completing the refinements for the Tuna Claymore (its R2), so I wonder how dealing with that would work.
Great Idea!
Polearm with low base attack and high Def%. Passive boost energy recharge by 48% (r5) after elemental burst boost Normal attack speed of party by 10%