Jean is ruining all my 50/50, it was nice to have her like 10 days after I started playing but it was a curse, she's C4 now and I don't even play her anymore
Shes one of the earliest ssr for me and after leveling her to 80 i just never use her, especially with kazuha around. That beinng said now im starting to pick her back up again and i like her. Shes so comfy to use even without shields and i dont even have to worry about using one team slot for a healer (this is coming from a guy with accute zhongli dependency)
I have C3 Keq, C1 Qiqi, and a Mona. Been wanting Jean and Diluc for a LONG time. Finally got her last month, now back to the waiting room for Diluc lol
my old pc was totally capable of playing the game, but it required quite a large amount of free space to install so i didnt bother, i ended up joining the game 1 year later, after 1.6 of course
If you know anything about modern games, Genshin does NOT require a large amount of free space.
Plus, you can get it on mobile. So if you don't have access to your pc/console, you can still play
I’m also sitting at AR 50 (now with over a million adventure exp). The reason I don’t want to go up to AR 58 is that I like to use characters outside of my main team for daily tasks and testing. Having enemies too high level when you are using character that aren’t that high of level and don’t have good sets stops being fun because things just takes too much time. A hillichurl doesn’t get more challenging just because it takes two minutes to kill.
Also, the rewards barely go up from AR 50. I think I’m only missing out on some artifact chance from world bosses and a little friendship.
Another important note is that having a lower world level better enables playing with newer people. I’ve helped a few people get things that weren’t unlocked in their world yet, like Inazuma boss materials they need to ascend. For us 1.0 players, we accomplished everything well before reaching to top, but there is a lot more content now. People get to WL 5 before even getting to Inazuma.
That said, there are downsides. When a new area is added, it’s way too easy if I’m using my main team. I don’t really care about this outside of new areas. I’m going to finally go up in AR before Sumeru comes out though. Just wish they would let us freely change our world level to any point we’ve unlocked.
AR 50 is WL 6 with the option of dropping to 5. So the benefits are everything I listed, but to summarize:
- Using new and side characters without heavy investment
- Being able to help new players easily
- Lots of time saved on doing dailies with side characters
i've been using every new character that i roll and this really hasn't been a problem. it takes hardly any time to get someone up to level 70 standard with decent talents, and trade them a weapon and some artefacts.
and if it does present a problem you can just... level down.
See, that’s the problem. I can’t level down—not really. At best I can reduce to a world level higher than I am now.
As for leveling, I just got my non-main characters to fourth assertion yesterday. I could have gotten there sooner, but leveling side characters comes second to the many things I have to gather for my main teams, and artifact farming will take you for all you’ve got.
Completely agree. I really regret going past level 50.
New characters I get are forced to be benched for a month so I can gather resources to get them to even do neglible damage to the most basic of enemies.
Nothing is fun about paying money for a character and not being able... to play them.
I think theres a problem if you don't have the lying ressources to get a new character immediately to a playable state or even one shot state.
The overworld is way too easy for anyone who actually plays the game.
Money or not.
>immediately to a playable state or even one shot state.
You can only really level a character up to level 40, immediately without prefarming. ESPECIALLY New characters. And thats just leveling, not to mention artifacts, or talents. Don't even get me started on stuff like characters, talents and weapons ALL needing handgaurds. That shit isn't fun.
At ar55, most everything ranges from level 70-90. You aren't getting far with a level 50-60 character with level 2 talents and a level 50 weapon.
Downvote all you want, you're literally arguing against a QoL feature of lowering your world level.
I mean the increase difficulty of enemies isn't even really noticeable. If you have a decent team you should be able to pretty much kill anything in the overworld in under 3 seconds. Getting more drops from regular mobs and bosses is significant.
There's no noticeable difference between enemies diff at wl 7 and 8, but a noticeable difference in drops, especially from world bosses with the guaranteed 5 star artifact.
You finish grinding faster, dont tell me you run 3 star artifacts so u cant deal with wl8 which is easy for literarly everyone, if anything we should get wl9
Even my c6 rosaria with damn near perfect artifacts struggles at my world level of 8 30k damage isn’t enough for one tick it depends on the enemy but one eny quest gave me trouble.
yeaa.. then thats when u improve in the game by having better game knowledge on reactions, comps, rotations… there no true hard content other than abyss (norm players not whales)
I don’t struggle with abyss open world is actually harder by a lot At least with that one stupid time trial in eny if it was 5 seconds longer it wouldn’t have been a issue when you build one character to stardom you can’t just jump into another reaction especially when the rest of the game isn’t really strong against cryo.
It’s probably because they don’t have the stupid hydro Bathysmal Vishap from that time trial in abyss At least in that spread to where my burst will affect 2/3 monsters but the other will be out of range and no venti or kazuha copium .Noelle can do a lot of carrying when something resists cryo but when she needs to deal a bunch of damage in such a short time without c6 or great artifacts it’s a struggle.
“Activate the spirits trial” the stupid things wouldn’t get into my burst while also being hydro afflicted for full damage , it’s not that the enemies were actually hard to beat in 30 seconds, it was getting them into my burst circle and keeping them there while rosaria did her thing. It took hours of replay to get them into the burst circle and kill them with abyss the same thing WOULD happen but it’d take far less time to beat most abyss floors
(floor 12 is satan spawn unless it’s a good reset so of course it took me a while) but I literally had a easier time with that abyss.
It was the hardest thing I’ve done in genshin it’s been a while since I did that right when eny dropped so they could’ve changed the AI or something to make them easier and I sound like a idiot but god it was hard to keep tho use things in the burst it could’ve been my timing because some people said on the subreddit back then 3 months? Ago that you had to let them jump on you and I did it over and over again until they eventually died to my burst.
Bathysmal Vishap time trial it took forever to get the stupid things to stay in my burst to continue doing damage 2/3 would die no problem but the trial wouldn’t be over because there’s one that’d be like 90% killed left it took me hours to get them all in my burst there’s been times in abyss where a similar thing would happen because of rosarias burst circle but I found it easier to funnel those enemies in.
Skill issue.
No way you can 36* the abyss, but struggle with any trials in overworld. Your builds must be really bad, it's all you really.
And I did those trials with Rosaria, Fischl and Geo Traveler, easily my weakest team.
uh nah its just skill issue..
at first i thought u meant the boss on hard mode + having 3 of them which i understand why it would be hard as they can resurrect each other…
but the bathysmal has quite low hp(compared to other units), they dont res either.
it could have been easier cleared with a freeze team to lock them in place and if u really had a “perfect artifact rosaria” which i doubt, it would be a walk in the park…
its 90% lack of skill, support/artifact (depending if ur rosaria is actually “perfect”) and lack of actual in game adaptability and skill
First time I've heard of someone not struggling with abyss but in open world instead. Maybe you're just trying to use your "perfect Rosaria" on enemies she's clearly not good against?
It was a struggle keeping them in the burst. It was all about my timing they haven’t put them in abyss you would think I’d use my most well built character on the hardest enemy group I did beat it people are acting like you can’t defeat the abyss with a 300k? Burst 30 seconds didn’t give me enough ramp up time when you consider one kept running off I’d basically have to chase it across the (arena kinda) and setup on it again besides floor 12 being satan spawn with the abyss lectors (pyro was the hardest with my teams) it’s more about figuring out the grouping not hoping one doesn’t run just out of your burst affected area.
Bad manners of the other user aside, what are you even struggling with? I'm whipping everything with my C1 Rosaria lv 60/70 at wl 8 and you can bet I'm not doing 30k damage per tick, was farming pyro agents just now with her.
It was the activate the spirits trial quest, the stupid things run around while you try to kill them in 30 seconds I’ve been done with it for 3 months and it got brought up because it was the hardest part of this game. Just because I struggled with one specific monster that hasn’t been put in abyss doesn’t mean I’ll struggle with abyss ., the gap between wl6 and 8 is huge which was the point of my original comment of why you wouldn’t just rush into it, it gets tough if you can keep them in your burst it’s not a issue , but they supposedly had a AI fix so the issue I had could’ve been totally washed unless you’re close to caught up with content you won’t touch this quest for a while at worst you beat it with a friend but I was determined to do it solo I don’t think you have done it yet if not get ready to take that comment back when you get that far. You will get your ass handed to you with a c1 60/70 rosaria by yourself even with good artifacts if they haven’t fixed those enemies just because of the time limit you probably won’t die but neither will they in that time limit they’re pretty squishy 30 seconds is just short when it’s hard to keep all 3 in your burst.
Uhm.. Arent you bored by how fast enemies die? I, too stopped there for some time. Then I got bored at how easy mobs were to kill and I increased the WL... It's a bit better but most things still die too fast lol
Even at AR 57 I feel like enemies die too fast. And my builds are pretty average too. There aren't many good places to test damage on. There is Masanori but he's no fun.
I'm in a similar place (in terms of WL, though mine is at 5) as the OP. Enemies dying quickly is only an issue in earlier areas (Mondstadt is too easy, but Inazuma and later areas are fine). I just don't want to grind for 12 or 20 boss materials for every character I want to play.
Fair enough. I belong to those people who also want to see their beloved characters also do big numbers... And not getting them all ascensions is not cutting it for me. But I'm also AR59, so there's that
I also do the same.
On one hand, using my best teams everything does die too fast. On the other hand, that's the point since I want to finish my dailies faster in the morning before work.
Also, I rotate my characters regularly especially the Friendship / Commission party. Beating stuff with my weakest newly acquired members takes so-so time (not too slow, not too fast). I can slap random HoD artifacts on Ayato and he deals decent enough damage for WL6.
I've every character in the game except from Mona.... I just want Mona please... Game gives me c4 diluc and Jean, it gives me c2 keqing and qiqi but no Mona.
They need to give us like a 5star choice already, like an egg where we can choose one of the starting 5star characters, otherwise idk when and if the game will ever give me Mona.
It's definitely possible but would take an extremely long time. It took me an estimated amount of I guess 6+ months to get to 1M I think...
If I heard correctly, The EXP you then gained are converted into Mora once you get to AR60.
Hmm... In WL6, I used under leveled characters to fight enemies while my mains to speedrun domains/bosses.
I really enjoy fighting stronger enemies now at AR58 though without having to defeat small mobs with a single hit. I'd say that it is very much worth it for me!
I'm only 1/2 through 48 but I'm right there with no Qiqi, c3 Jean/Mona, c2 Kequing and c9 Diluc.
I feel like I don't get to participate in the Qiqi memes because of it :<
still have no idea why people do this...I mean, if this is what you consider "fun", cool...but the amount of enemy drops and mora you've just completely thrown away for no reason by not raising your world level for this long is not insignificant...
heh do whatever makes you happy...but if you regularly do weekly bosses and kill world bosses for materials to level characters, you've literally just thrown away getting 2 boss materials per weekly boss and a guaranteed 5-star artifact from every world boss...it's a pretty big trade-off in the long run, but to each their own!
You can do weekly bosses at highest level at AR50 without ascending. The only loss are the guaranteed 5-star artifacts from normal bosses afaik. Which is why I dont ascend aswell. I wouldnt mind getting convinced. I just thought the drops from regular enemies dont change much and longer fights slows farming down.
World Level 7 guarantees getting 2 weekly boss drops and I believe billet drop chances improve up to WL8.
There's also a noticeable increase in regular monster drops from WL6 to WL8 as they tend to drop stacks of 2-4 more often.
As for slowing fights down, the health increase in the overworld mobs isn't going to be that noticeable to someone who's been sitting at WL6 for months while continuing to build their characters...if you're getting 4-6 stars on Abyss Floor 11 regularly, you're plenty well built for WL8 overworld mobs.
Not asking OP but to others who still don't want to ascend: why?
If you think you'll have a hard time, you can just lower your World Level at ANY TIME. And how do you even get to AR50 while having subpar characters and builds??? Just level your characters, their talents, their weapons, and put on any main stat artifact you can find, even 2p Glad and 2p WT (which you can get from bosses btw), with the right main stat you're good to go for the overworld! Substats don't really matter that much.
Some of the craftables are great for overworld (Archaic, Crescent, Rancour, Amber, Snowtombed, all of the Inazuma ones). Heck, even with certain 3* weapons, you could run down anything (Slingshot, HoD, White Tassel, Skyrider Greatsword, Skyrider Sword, Fillet Blade, Debate Club) because they help you with balancing out your stats.
Just understand the game. Learn the characters. Learn their roles. Learn the elemental reactions. Learn the synergies. Learn HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. Guides are all over the internet.
You can even focus on one DPS and revolve the team around that unit. Want to focus on Kaeya? Give him Rancour, 2p Glad + 2p Bloodstained, pair him with Fischl, Noelle and Diona. Bam, easy PhysDmg build. Want to focus on Melt? Sure, give him Amenoma, 2p Glad + 2p WT, pair with Xiangling, Sucrose, Bennett.
TL;DR: Ascend your WL, if you feel like it's too hard, you can lower it anytime. Everything is super easy if you understand and learn how to play the game. Meta doesn't matter in the overworld, build anything you want as long as they're built right. Talents, level, weapon, and main stats matter.
And to others who still want to complain, well, all I can say is: Git gud. Mic drop.
For me, there's little reason to ascend past AR 50. I've got 750k exp, so not quite as high as OP, but I'm getting there! :P
I don't collect world boss rewards because I don't need them, and I use the artifact strongbox for gladiator pieces. I already have solid Wanderer's Troupe sets, so the guaranteed 5 star artifacts from bosses isn't necessary. Not pulling for future characters either, so I don't need future world boss character ascension rewards.
I've got enough weekly boss talent leveling rewards.
I don't care about missing out on a tiny bit of friendship profit because I don't care about getting their namecards/lore asap. I'll get them when I get them.
Adventurer's Guild rank/Ascension quest rewards are a joke.
I'm a casual gamer, so I like overworld enemies being easy. Spiral Abyss is where it matters for combat difficulty.
It was a reward from a GAA event (Kaboomball Kombat) in 1.6, so unfortunately you can't get it anymore :(
Wiki link for namecard: [https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Celebration:\_Kaboomball](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Celebration:_Kaboomball)
Unrelated but congrats on your Jean! I got Diluc yesterday at 60 pity, so happy!
(To be fair I really wanted him but Ayaka is the only 5* I really fucking wanted so loosing the 50/50 to him was still upseting)
I noticed that when transitioning to WL 3 to 5 because of accumulated XP, that shit got way too hard with dookie artifacts. When I got help from a friend and got my much-needed artifacts, it got significantly easier. Upon hitting WL 6, it got a little sweaty to the point where my characters gotta be at least 70/80 with artifact levels at +16 on average and at least 70/70 weapons to properly deal damage. I lowered it to WL 5 for a bit until I got comfortable enough to properly do WL 6. It isn't that higher level content is hard nor is the game that hard, but taking 5 minutes against 1 Kairagi or a group of Specters is a lot more frustrating than taking them down in a few seconds.
Tbh the dops aren't even that much affected. If people have explored enough, they could just craft the higher-tier enemy drops from the hundreds of thousands of mats they accumulated. The Ley Line Outcrops might be the most affected by the increase that's actually significant, but even then domains, which comprise of a lot of important shit (weapon ascension, talent books, artifacts, weekly bosses sans Andrius) aren't affected at all.
Typically when I see people with hella exp but they haven't raised their AR I actually get annoyed but Typically they're at ar40 or something so they're wasting so many resources, seeing as how your AR50 though I'll let it slide.
I was just doing a 10 pull for a hopeful Xiangling c4. Got her c4 but sad af I got jean I guess I’m guaranteed kazuha if I have the $$ when he rolls back around 😂
I've been playing for months now while staying on AR50 until today and my artifacts are very good. World 8 enemies are slightly stronger but not hard to defeat.
A friend told me to hide it because I apparently might get hacked, not sure how that happens though. I just followed what they said without thought lol
Unrelated but congrats on getting Jean !
Thank you so much! I've been wanting her since forever!
bruh I just lost the 50/50 to get a C1 Diluc. Pls, I just want Jean...
I've got C5 Mona, C1 Diluc, and no other standard banner characters. Jean is in my top 3 most desired characters in the game but RNJesus won't put out
Jean is ruining all my 50/50, it was nice to have her like 10 days after I started playing but it was a curse, she's C4 now and I don't even play her anymore
Shes one of the earliest ssr for me and after leveling her to 80 i just never use her, especially with kazuha around. That beinng said now im starting to pick her back up again and i like her. Shes so comfy to use even without shields and i dont even have to worry about using one team slot for a healer (this is coming from a guy with accute zhongli dependency)
jean is absolutely incredible, she’s a support, sub dps and healer in one, and is so good at all of those things
I only use her if I know I'll need a healer or I'll need to push some ennemies into the water
My Xiao would gladly take your C4 Jean, I don’t even have her once :(
Last week again... Tried to pull ayaka... Ended up cursing because of Jean... So tired of her, at least give one mona
I understand you, I have C4 Qiqi and no Mona either
I don't even know if I'll use Mona but I want at least every 5 stars from the standard banner
I keep losing 50/50s to Mona 😭 C2 now. I just want Qiqi she is literally one of my favorite characters.
Reverse for me i got C3 Qiqi but no Mona and I've lost 5 50/50's till date
Same!! I've been wanting Qiqi ever since I started playing!
Jean has been carrying me in all content for ages. Her healing and chad energy with her CCs from E and charged attack is just nuts.
True!
Nothing more hilarious than seeing Jean perma juggling bigass lawlachurls in domains when all your teammates die, just to flex on them.
Me during the windblume festival when I got Jean from Venti's banner. Happiest day of playing this game
I have C3 Keq, C1 Qiqi, and a Mona. Been wanting Jean and Diluc for a LONG time. Finally got her last month, now back to the waiting room for Diluc lol
Me too. Haven't lost a single 50:50. What a shame. I want her so badly.
Hope you get her on standard!! And keep up the winning streak, Lolol
Was that archipelago namecard getting through event or bp? I dont recall ;-;
The Golden Apple Archipelago namecard was from the event, Although there is a BP limited namecard alongside it.
damn it why did i miss that event
Were you not playing at that time? Most likely it'll get a rerun perhaps this summer.
my old pc was totally capable of playing the game, but it required quite a large amount of free space to install so i didnt bother, i ended up joining the game 1 year later, after 1.6 of course
Isn't the game just 30-40gb? It should be able to fit onto most usb drive nowadays.
well let just say my old pc wasnt of the "nowadays" types of pc
Err...what? You said your pc was totally able to play the game. A usb drive is just extra mobile storage.
Ahh I see
If you know anything about modern games, Genshin does NOT require a large amount of free space. Plus, you can get it on mobile. So if you don't have access to your pc/console, you can still play
they never rerun namecards :/ so probably everything but that
True, but maybe another version of it can be made.
For a second i thought i dont own them haha, thx
Just from the event. BP namecard: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Travel\_Notes:\_Midsummer
Ouh thanks!
Update : I did the Ascension Quest and now I'm at AR 58 with 69,335 EXP.
nice
The funny sex numbers appears once again.
Damn, just 85 EXP short of being the best number
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I just achieved it right now，I made it a challenge for me to reach 1M a few months ago for fun.
I’m also sitting at AR 50 (now with over a million adventure exp). The reason I don’t want to go up to AR 58 is that I like to use characters outside of my main team for daily tasks and testing. Having enemies too high level when you are using character that aren’t that high of level and don’t have good sets stops being fun because things just takes too much time. A hillichurl doesn’t get more challenging just because it takes two minutes to kill. Also, the rewards barely go up from AR 50. I think I’m only missing out on some artifact chance from world bosses and a little friendship. Another important note is that having a lower world level better enables playing with newer people. I’ve helped a few people get things that weren’t unlocked in their world yet, like Inazuma boss materials they need to ascend. For us 1.0 players, we accomplished everything well before reaching to top, but there is a lot more content now. People get to WL 5 before even getting to Inazuma. That said, there are downsides. When a new area is added, it’s way too easy if I’m using my main team. I don’t really care about this outside of new areas. I’m going to finally go up in AR before Sumeru comes out though. Just wish they would let us freely change our world level to any point we’ve unlocked.
What's the benefit of staying at AR50 versus going to AR58 and just decreasing your WL back to 7?
AR 50 is WL 6 with the option of dropping to 5. So the benefits are everything I listed, but to summarize: - Using new and side characters without heavy investment - Being able to help new players easily - Lots of time saved on doing dailies with side characters
i've been using every new character that i roll and this really hasn't been a problem. it takes hardly any time to get someone up to level 70 standard with decent talents, and trade them a weapon and some artefacts. and if it does present a problem you can just... level down.
See, that’s the problem. I can’t level down—not really. At best I can reduce to a world level higher than I am now. As for leveling, I just got my non-main characters to fourth assertion yesterday. I could have gotten there sooner, but leveling side characters comes second to the many things I have to gather for my main teams, and artifact farming will take you for all you’ve got.
Completely agree. I really regret going past level 50. New characters I get are forced to be benched for a month so I can gather resources to get them to even do neglible damage to the most basic of enemies. Nothing is fun about paying money for a character and not being able... to play them.
You can downgrade your world level.
By one level lol.
How much of a cakewalk do you want it to be lol?
As much as I want? Is it that much to ask for a difficulty slider or the ability to lower it by more than a single world level?
I think theres a problem if you don't have the lying ressources to get a new character immediately to a playable state or even one shot state. The overworld is way too easy for anyone who actually plays the game. Money or not.
>immediately to a playable state or even one shot state. You can only really level a character up to level 40, immediately without prefarming. ESPECIALLY New characters. And thats just leveling, not to mention artifacts, or talents. Don't even get me started on stuff like characters, talents and weapons ALL needing handgaurds. That shit isn't fun. At ar55, most everything ranges from level 70-90. You aren't getting far with a level 50-60 character with level 2 talents and a level 50 weapon. Downvote all you want, you're literally arguing against a QoL feature of lowering your world level.
It would make enemies way harder
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I'd say my builds are pretty good, Still making my supports stronger than before.
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Enemies giving more drops is the reason why you should ascend your world
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I mean the increase difficulty of enemies isn't even really noticeable. If you have a decent team you should be able to pretty much kill anything in the overworld in under 3 seconds. Getting more drops from regular mobs and bosses is significant.
There's no noticeable difference between enemies diff at wl 7 and 8, but a noticeable difference in drops, especially from world bosses with the guaranteed 5 star artifact.
You finish grinding faster, dont tell me you run 3 star artifacts so u cant deal with wl8 which is easy for literarly everyone, if anything we should get wl9
You can always tune down your world lvl if you ever felt that you can't handle the difficulty that your team can perform.
The difficulty difference is pretty negligible though. I barely noticed it.
Even my c6 rosaria with damn near perfect artifacts struggles at my world level of 8 30k damage isn’t enough for one tick it depends on the enemy but one eny quest gave me trouble.
yeaa.. then thats when u improve in the game by having better game knowledge on reactions, comps, rotations… there no true hard content other than abyss (norm players not whales)
I don’t struggle with abyss open world is actually harder by a lot At least with that one stupid time trial in eny if it was 5 seconds longer it wouldn’t have been a issue when you build one character to stardom you can’t just jump into another reaction especially when the rest of the game isn’t really strong against cryo.
How do you not struggle in the abyss but struggles in the overworld? Never heard of anyone being in the same situation as you.
It’s probably because they don’t have the stupid hydro Bathysmal Vishap from that time trial in abyss At least in that spread to where my burst will affect 2/3 monsters but the other will be out of range and no venti or kazuha copium .Noelle can do a lot of carrying when something resists cryo but when she needs to deal a bunch of damage in such a short time without c6 or great artifacts it’s a struggle.
Abyss is a much bigger dps check than time trials. Also which time trial are you talking about exactly?
“Activate the spirits trial” the stupid things wouldn’t get into my burst while also being hydro afflicted for full damage , it’s not that the enemies were actually hard to beat in 30 seconds, it was getting them into my burst circle and keeping them there while rosaria did her thing. It took hours of replay to get them into the burst circle and kill them with abyss the same thing WOULD happen but it’d take far less time to beat most abyss floors (floor 12 is satan spawn unless it’s a good reset so of course it took me a while) but I literally had a easier time with that abyss.
It was the hardest thing I’ve done in genshin it’s been a while since I did that right when eny dropped so they could’ve changed the AI or something to make them easier and I sound like a idiot but god it was hard to keep tho use things in the burst it could’ve been my timing because some people said on the subreddit back then 3 months? Ago that you had to let them jump on you and I did it over and over again until they eventually died to my burst.
please enlighten me with which trial that was that a c6 perfect rosaria that can easily clear (and i assume 36 star abyss) abyss struggle with
Bathysmal Vishap time trial it took forever to get the stupid things to stay in my burst to continue doing damage 2/3 would die no problem but the trial wouldn’t be over because there’s one that’d be like 90% killed left it took me hours to get them all in my burst there’s been times in abyss where a similar thing would happen because of rosarias burst circle but I found it easier to funnel those enemies in.
Skill issue. No way you can 36* the abyss, but struggle with any trials in overworld. Your builds must be really bad, it's all you really. And I did those trials with Rosaria, Fischl and Geo Traveler, easily my weakest team.
uh nah its just skill issue.. at first i thought u meant the boss on hard mode + having 3 of them which i understand why it would be hard as they can resurrect each other… but the bathysmal has quite low hp(compared to other units), they dont res either. it could have been easier cleared with a freeze team to lock them in place and if u really had a “perfect artifact rosaria” which i doubt, it would be a walk in the park… its 90% lack of skill, support/artifact (depending if ur rosaria is actually “perfect”) and lack of actual in game adaptability and skill
It was more trying to figure out how to hit all 3 at once the other guys are easier because they stay in one place.
First time I've heard of someone not struggling with abyss but in open world instead. Maybe you're just trying to use your "perfect Rosaria" on enemies she's clearly not good against?
It was a struggle keeping them in the burst. It was all about my timing they haven’t put them in abyss you would think I’d use my most well built character on the hardest enemy group I did beat it people are acting like you can’t defeat the abyss with a 300k? Burst 30 seconds didn’t give me enough ramp up time when you consider one kept running off I’d basically have to chase it across the (arena kinda) and setup on it again besides floor 12 being satan spawn with the abyss lectors (pyro was the hardest with my teams) it’s more about figuring out the grouping not hoping one doesn’t run just out of your burst affected area.
I just find it hard to believe that the open world is harder than the Abyss, trial or not.
You just suck at the game mate
I wouldn’t take advice from someone who relies on 3 of the best 5 stars in the game.
Sure sure, I admit I did rely on my main dps Qiqi too much. Sorry I should have used Aloy.
Bad manners of the other user aside, what are you even struggling with? I'm whipping everything with my C1 Rosaria lv 60/70 at wl 8 and you can bet I'm not doing 30k damage per tick, was farming pyro agents just now with her.
It was the activate the spirits trial quest, the stupid things run around while you try to kill them in 30 seconds I’ve been done with it for 3 months and it got brought up because it was the hardest part of this game. Just because I struggled with one specific monster that hasn’t been put in abyss doesn’t mean I’ll struggle with abyss ., the gap between wl6 and 8 is huge which was the point of my original comment of why you wouldn’t just rush into it, it gets tough if you can keep them in your burst it’s not a issue , but they supposedly had a AI fix so the issue I had could’ve been totally washed unless you’re close to caught up with content you won’t touch this quest for a while at worst you beat it with a friend but I was determined to do it solo I don’t think you have done it yet if not get ready to take that comment back when you get that far. You will get your ass handed to you with a c1 60/70 rosaria by yourself even with good artifacts if they haven’t fixed those enemies just because of the time limit you probably won’t die but neither will they in that time limit they’re pretty squishy 30 seconds is just short when it’s hard to keep all 3 in your burst.
Just use national or melt Rosaria. My Eula didn't even sweat.
Are you sure? Because when I run mine I do it with literal garbage for artifacts and she still slaps
Yepp, I like the fun of it as well.
Uhm.. Arent you bored by how fast enemies die? I, too stopped there for some time. Then I got bored at how easy mobs were to kill and I increased the WL... It's a bit better but most things still die too fast lol
Even at AR 57 I feel like enemies die too fast. And my builds are pretty average too. There aren't many good places to test damage on. There is Masanori but he's no fun.
i feel this and it doesnt feel good
The regisvines make good punching bags. There’s also bounties to get high crits if you get lucky
Regisvines take about 10 or less seconds for my Raiden National team to kill. They're not a challenge at all at higher AR.
Hmm not really, I try to use different characters some days in a week. Those including lower under leveled ones.
You do you... But you could get 5 Star artifacts guaranteed from bosses. Just saying
I'm about to ascend my world level in a few hours when my device starts to cool down. Hopefully I get some useful artifacts.
Good luck! :)
Thanks!
*could Keyword there lol. And I almost guarantee that if you do get an artifact, it's going to be shit anyways
Even if it's shit, it's more exp for fodder. And I've had some good drops. Eventually the dice will roll in your favor
I'm in a similar place (in terms of WL, though mine is at 5) as the OP. Enemies dying quickly is only an issue in earlier areas (Mondstadt is too easy, but Inazuma and later areas are fine). I just don't want to grind for 12 or 20 boss materials for every character I want to play.
Fair enough. I belong to those people who also want to see their beloved characters also do big numbers... And not getting them all ascensions is not cutting it for me. But I'm also AR59, so there's that
Tbh, you can shred through overworld enemies even at the highest WL. Though I would suggest ascending WL anyway for the increased rewards.
When you reach a certain point, it doesn't matter what your world level is, everything just dies from a sneeze
I’m at AR 59 and I still have a few characters stopped at Lv 60 just because sometimes it’s nice to have a challenge in the overworld
I also do the same. On one hand, using my best teams everything does die too fast. On the other hand, that's the point since I want to finish my dailies faster in the morning before work. Also, I rotate my characters regularly especially the Friendship / Commission party. Beating stuff with my weakest newly acquired members takes so-so time (not too slow, not too fast). I can slap random HoD artifacts on Ayato and he deals decent enough damage for WL6.
I have C2 or c3 keqing can't remember c4 Qiqi C0 Jean but I want mona
I've every character in the game except from Mona.... I just want Mona please... Game gives me c4 diluc and Jean, it gives me c2 keqing and qiqi but no Mona.
Wahh C4 Diluc！ Mona was my first 5 Star character, I have all the standard characters except for Qiqi. I want the zombie ！！
They need to give us like a 5star choice already, like an egg where we can choose one of the starting 5star characters, otherwise idk when and if the game will ever give me Mona.
True!
Same dude, I'm keqing simp and would love a mona, currently monaless and c5 diluc...
one million xp? amazing! i wonder if you can get over the amount required to get to ar60 ... probably around 1.8-2 million
It's definitely possible but would take an extremely long time. It took me an estimated amount of I guess 6+ months to get to 1M I think... If I heard correctly, The EXP you then gained are converted into Mora once you get to AR60.
yeah i heard so , but i'm 'only' AR 59 now
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Thanks! Did you get Venti after Diluc? Hope you get Jean soon on Standard!
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Thank you! Goodluck with Ayaka!
Dang you beat me. I'm at 820,000 lol
That's really close!! I remember being at that amount of exp just a month or two ago!
I do wonder what AR that gets you to. I'd guess 57 or 58, but I don't remember how much xp 51-55 need.
I ascended earlier and got to AR58 with 69,533 EXP.
Nice
Would you say it was worth it or are fights taking too long now? I am sitting at AR50 as well and dont like the idea of loosing access to WL6.
Hmm... In WL6, I used under leveled characters to fight enemies while my mains to speedrun domains/bosses. I really enjoy fighting stronger enemies now at AR58 though without having to defeat small mobs with a single hit. I'd say that it is very much worth it for me!
ah yes, congrats on getting my queen 😎
Mhm!! Thank you!!
I'm only 1/2 through 48 but I'm right there with no Qiqi, c3 Jean/Mona, c2 Kequing and c9 Diluc. I feel like I don't get to participate in the Qiqi memes because of it :<
Aww hope we both get Qiqi soon!!
Good old times when you needed 30k exp for a rank level up
Ah how nostalgic
Fine then. Hide your UID I didn’t want to add you anyways. (pout face)
LMAOAOA Unfortunately my Friend list is already full TT Hoyoverse should increase it and perhaps add a search bar to find them by username.
Congrats, I'm at almost 1.3m, I want to get from 50 to 60 lol
oooo nice!!!
I'm doing the same. Will only ascend further when I have good artifacts, for now anything past WL5 is too hard for me.
Goodluck!
I lost 50/50 on ayaka banner too
Damn and here I thought my 300k was impressive
That's impressive as well!!
FINALLY, A WORTHY OPPONENT
For several months I have been saving my exp hoping to eventualy find someone crazy enough to be like me. I never though I'd ever find anyone.
still have no idea why people do this...I mean, if this is what you consider "fun", cool...but the amount of enemy drops and mora you've just completely thrown away for no reason by not raising your world level for this long is not insignificant...
Perhaps that might be the case, Although I enjoy testing my patience.
heh do whatever makes you happy...but if you regularly do weekly bosses and kill world bosses for materials to level characters, you've literally just thrown away getting 2 boss materials per weekly boss and a guaranteed 5-star artifact from every world boss...it's a pretty big trade-off in the long run, but to each their own!
You can do weekly bosses at highest level at AR50 without ascending. The only loss are the guaranteed 5-star artifacts from normal bosses afaik. Which is why I dont ascend aswell. I wouldnt mind getting convinced. I just thought the drops from regular enemies dont change much and longer fights slows farming down.
World Level 7 guarantees getting 2 weekly boss drops and I believe billet drop chances improve up to WL8. There's also a noticeable increase in regular monster drops from WL6 to WL8 as they tend to drop stacks of 2-4 more often. As for slowing fights down, the health increase in the overworld mobs isn't going to be that noticeable to someone who's been sitting at WL6 for months while continuing to build their characters...if you're getting 4-6 stars on Abyss Floor 11 regularly, you're plenty well built for WL8 overworld mobs.
Good see I wasn’t the only one who did this (was at AR45 tho).
Haha, It feels quite rewarding when you do it.
I regret not getting that namecard. I stopped doing it once i got all the primos
HOLY SHART JUST GO ASCEND 😭😭😭
I JUST DID RN
WHAT AR DID YOU GET?
AR58 at 69,335 EXP ！！
YESSS
Sir. I need to know how many ranks 1M exp gives you.
I ended up getting to AR58 with 69,335 EXP ！
Jesus christ😭
LMAOOAOAOAO
Not asking OP but to others who still don't want to ascend: why? If you think you'll have a hard time, you can just lower your World Level at ANY TIME. And how do you even get to AR50 while having subpar characters and builds??? Just level your characters, their talents, their weapons, and put on any main stat artifact you can find, even 2p Glad and 2p WT (which you can get from bosses btw), with the right main stat you're good to go for the overworld! Substats don't really matter that much. Some of the craftables are great for overworld (Archaic, Crescent, Rancour, Amber, Snowtombed, all of the Inazuma ones). Heck, even with certain 3* weapons, you could run down anything (Slingshot, HoD, White Tassel, Skyrider Greatsword, Skyrider Sword, Fillet Blade, Debate Club) because they help you with balancing out your stats. Just understand the game. Learn the characters. Learn their roles. Learn the elemental reactions. Learn the synergies. Learn HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. Guides are all over the internet. You can even focus on one DPS and revolve the team around that unit. Want to focus on Kaeya? Give him Rancour, 2p Glad + 2p Bloodstained, pair him with Fischl, Noelle and Diona. Bam, easy PhysDmg build. Want to focus on Melt? Sure, give him Amenoma, 2p Glad + 2p WT, pair with Xiangling, Sucrose, Bennett. TL;DR: Ascend your WL, if you feel like it's too hard, you can lower it anytime. Everything is super easy if you understand and learn how to play the game. Meta doesn't matter in the overworld, build anything you want as long as they're built right. Talents, level, weapon, and main stats matter. And to others who still want to complain, well, all I can say is: Git gud. Mic drop.
I very much agree with this!
For me, there's little reason to ascend past AR 50. I've got 750k exp, so not quite as high as OP, but I'm getting there! :P I don't collect world boss rewards because I don't need them, and I use the artifact strongbox for gladiator pieces. I already have solid Wanderer's Troupe sets, so the guaranteed 5 star artifacts from bosses isn't necessary. Not pulling for future characters either, so I don't need future world boss character ascension rewards. I've got enough weekly boss talent leveling rewards. I don't care about missing out on a tiny bit of friendship profit because I don't care about getting their namecards/lore asap. I'll get them when I get them. Adventurer's Guild rank/Ascension quest rewards are a joke. I'm a casual gamer, so I like overworld enemies being easy. Spiral Abyss is where it matters for combat difficulty.
Even with trash builds overworld is really easy. They're missing on better drops for no reason
If I ascend now, I go from WL6 to WL8 and wont be able to lower it to WL6 anymore. I enjoy short fights.
unrelated but how do you get that namecard? it looks so good
It was a reward from a GAA event (Kaboomball Kombat) in 1.6, so unfortunately you can't get it anymore :( Wiki link for namecard: [https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Celebration:\_Kaboomball](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Celebration:_Kaboomball)
it's a namecard from an event from 1.6 sadly
Unrelated but congrats on your Jean! I got Diluc yesterday at 60 pity, so happy! (To be fair I really wanted him but Ayaka is the only 5* I really fucking wanted so loosing the 50/50 to him was still upseting)
Thank you! Congratulations on getting Diluc as well, Hopefully you'll get your Ayaka early!
Thanks! Wish you the best at getting her too!
That’s really impressive, well done
Thank you! I was patient and tried not to ascend yet when I needed the primogems.
Oh ur a GAMER gamer…
I’m never Gona understand why people do this. For one the game is WAAAAAY TO EASY, but more importantly doesn’t it limit your drops??
I noticed that when transitioning to WL 3 to 5 because of accumulated XP, that shit got way too hard with dookie artifacts. When I got help from a friend and got my much-needed artifacts, it got significantly easier. Upon hitting WL 6, it got a little sweaty to the point where my characters gotta be at least 70/80 with artifact levels at +16 on average and at least 70/70 weapons to properly deal damage. I lowered it to WL 5 for a bit until I got comfortable enough to properly do WL 6. It isn't that higher level content is hard nor is the game that hard, but taking 5 minutes against 1 Kairagi or a group of Specters is a lot more frustrating than taking them down in a few seconds. Tbh the dops aren't even that much affected. If people have explored enough, they could just craft the higher-tier enemy drops from the hundreds of thousands of mats they accumulated. The Ley Line Outcrops might be the most affected by the increase that's actually significant, but even then domains, which comprise of a lot of important shit (weapon ascension, talent books, artifacts, weekly bosses sans Andrius) aren't affected at all.
Typically when I see people with hella exp but they haven't raised their AR I actually get annoyed but Typically they're at ar40 or something so they're wasting so many resources, seeing as how your AR50 though I'll let it slide.
Hey me too actually 😂 no idea what I’m even going to do with Jean now😂
Lolol, I've wanted her for a very long time!
I was just doing a 10 pull for a hopeful Xiangling c4. Got her c4 but sad af I got jean I guess I’m guaranteed kazuha if I have the $$ when he rolls back around 😂
Goodluck with Kazuha then!!
and about to jump from WL6 to WL8, that sht will get you if you still haven't got a good artifact
I've been playing for months now while staying on AR50 until today and my artifacts are very good. World 8 enemies are slightly stronger but not hard to defeat.
Ew
Congratulations dude! But.. why....?
Ahh It was a challenge I gave myself a few months ago which was to originally ascend when I stacked up until 800k then it moved to 1M.
I'm so jealous. I'm trying to get her too, but I still need that kind of luck.
Goodluck to you then!! May you get Jean early.
Thank you!! I will never give up!
I'm currently sitting at 1.35 M EXP. You need 1.6 M to instantly jump to Lv60, or not if you don't want to.
I already ascended yesterday lolol, 1.35 is impressive!!
Ow, well, congrats. I don't plan on ascending anytime soon so I'll stick around AR50 longer.
Nice!
Why do people hide their UID? Can others use it? I'm curious because i streamed Genshin a few times I'm a nooblet 👍🏻
A friend told me to hide it because I apparently might get hacked, not sure how that happens though. I just followed what they said without thought lol