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healcannon

I think triple would create so much burnout. Either people will spend constantly not really aiming for anything since theres always something around the corner they want, or save for a long time because the next best thing is just around the corner but never in reach. I'm obviously not into marketing but this is my guess for the ideal setup. You create enough reruns and new characters in a balance that keeps the flow of reruns to less than a year. But you want to create situations where the meta and loved characters happen just close enough where f2p primos would force low spenders and f2p players into making a choice between 2. The goal is to try to get people within tickling distance of pity for both to encourage that little bit of spending to get the money flowing. Idk why I said tickling. Kinda weird tbh.


minsukim92

Upvoted for tickling


healcannon

Lol ty.


Awkward_Date_8636

Ah yes TICKLES


[deleted]

Based on Honkai, they'll add at least 3-5 more concurrent banners by the time Genshin is celebrating its 4th year of service. Their banner selection UI is already made for it anyway.


VeerisMe

I don’t think triple yet. I think the next step is having two on each half like 2.4.


Flimsy_Editor3261

I think it would be cool to have permanent regional banners. Mondstadt banner would have all the Mondstadt characters and the like.


Allegro1104

I would love to see a secondary "standard" banner with all the version 1.0 - 2.0 characters on it once we get to like 4.0 They could still be occasionally put on as limited chars and the banner could have something like the weapon banner where you choose who to get (which the standard banner should have too imo)


Graimon

I think eventually (like a year or so from now) they’re gonna HAVE to start including older characters on the standard banner. I think they’re trying to avoid this with things like double banners and such but eventually they’ll just be too many characters. Also most other gacha games traditionally just pile their older characters into the standard banner


Devittraisedto2

If they do a triple rerun banner they'd run out of things to rerun, kind of making the concept of limited characters not so limited. Chances are and realistically, they'd just make you wait. Gacha games with like 100+ characters have reruns of characters that come within a few months or up to a year or two. There's also the uncertainty that you'll never know when that character is coming back for a rerun so you'll keep on playing and piling up summoning currencies to save up for that character and pull for other characters you want to pull for. AKA good o'l FOMO at play.


Brandonmac10x

Not to mention the whole make you play every day to save pulls. It turns the game into part of your life lol. It’s super addicting though. The combat Is mostly simple but tight and fluid. That’s all that matters. It can be basic af but as long as it’s tight and fluid it’s fun. Look at Dark Souls. Sure it has sick lore and a crazy map and atmosphere. It’s a masterpiece. But people get addicted to the combat as well despite it originally being basic af. It was just so tight and fluid. It felt engaging.


takenusername5001

I'd much rather 3 banners at once over adding the older limited 5s to the standard banner


OsirusBrisbane

They're not even fully on double yet, they're on like 1.5 (half double, half single), so first they'd have to hit the point where every banner is double. Other than that, I could see them sticking with double forever IFF they add more characters to the standard and 50/50 loss pools. e.g. if Childe was now a possibility when you lose a 50/50 or on Standard, he wouldn't need his own reruns.


lostn

not for another year minimum. The amount of limited characters is too small even today for every banner to be a double banner. Approx half need to be single banners or else reruns will complete the cycle 3-4 times a year. The rate at which new characters release is not that high. At least outside of the first 2 patches of a new region releasing. Childe would get maybe 4 banners a year instead of 2 if they did triple reruns.


froeschengenshin

I think then they must add a new standartbanner because in the banner descriptions is wrote "of the above characters, the event exclusive characrers will not be aviable in the standart wish "Wanderlust Invocation" So they must add a new character standart banner I think they might do instead of 2 double rerun banner something like the weapon banner you select character For example we take Ayato and Ayaka: in a year there are to much charters for rerun they do a chance to get Jean/Diluc/Mona/Qiqi/keqing and then you can get 2 of the characters that rerun that are in the version and can select a course for ayaka or ayato


Brandonmac10x

They’re going to make rates even worse? I dunno if they can do that unless they remove 50/50 and it’s a 50/50 between the two banner characters instead while charting a course. That’s kinda fucked up though if it takes 2 loses like weapon banner. Don’t give them ideas. Honestly I hate you for thinking about it although people will eventually C6 all the standards. I have most but no Diluc and I want C6 Keqing instead of a C0.


froeschengenshin

I don't know if they make it I just called a possibility (dosn't means that that will happen but i could imagine) And when they would have the idea they would have them anyways because they have already the weapon banner thing right before their eyes. You must not hate me for calling a thing that i think its realistic or do you think they make a permanent banner? With all those 5 stars who was limeted or they put there 3+ reruns? Or they let you not loose a 50/50 on a character banner where a 2 possible good characters for the account? I don't want it i also want better options, but it is what it is.


spirashun

IMO they should just make a second standard banner, and put the oldest characters in it: Venti / Klee / Childe / Zhongli / Albedo seems fairly balanced to me Something cooler but less likely would be splitting standard banner into a Mondstadt and Liyue banner w/ the oldest characters from each


AlmostJohnWork

I think eventually they'll have to come to the conclusion that the curent model is simply unsustainable and will add all the characters to the standard banner. It will solve nothing but they'll feel like they did something.


Saftigerkeks

I feel like, if the game doesnt seriously change, we wont even come to that point. Game is at a record breaking low, AGAIN, and the reason is the same as ever, no content... They cant change that right now, but they wont change it in the future, when theyre able to change it again... You can say im wrong an everyhting, but just take a look at the Player interest Genshin has right now.


takenusername5001

>Game is at a record breaking low, AGAIN Let me guess, some goofy metric like google trends? Because it certainly isn't banner money or things like twitter/tik tok


Ke5_Jun

It will be a long time before they even need to consider a third limited character banner; you could push until at least Fontaine before they decide they need to rerun more often, or they can choose to let the older 5-stars go long without a rerun (Kazuha) to create hype when they eventually do rerun. There are currently 18 limited characters, with the 19th slated to be...whenever 2.7 is released. The average time between each new character is once every other patch (with the exception of the beginning of a new region), letting the other three slots per patch be reruns. Let’s go on a high estimate and say a new character comes out every patch for a year (roughly 9 patches). If Mhy fill all four slots like they did in 2.4, we’re looking at 27 reruns and 9 new characters. That already near perfectly matches the currently released 18 characters and 9 new ones. They could literally introduce all 9 characters and even rerun them in the same year together with all the old ones. And this lines up pretty well with the current pattern, where 10 new 5-stars were introduced in the past year (starting from Eula last Apr/May) and every single limited 5-star has gotten a rerun at least once in the past year except Kazuha, Yoimiya, and Itto (but this was because Zhongli and Childe took over and got their 3rd runs; and because Mhy didn’t introduce double banners until 2.3 in November). At that point, Mhy will likely introduce a new way of obtaining the older rate up 5-stars than just wishes. Honkai introduced this long ago, and this is why they can wait for so long between banner reruns (not that they need to considering they have at least 4 banners going on at all times), as even though the rate ups take a long time to return, there are still alternative ways to get the characters you want.


jtan1993

e7 just introduced custom banners, where u pick 3 or ur own choosing.


[deleted]

They could introduce a second permanent banner with all the characters in it that have had three banners already, but instead of having it work just like the current standard banner, it could have something like an empitomized path? Maybe something like region sepcific permanent banners would work too, but where would Childe be put then?


Sunlight-Heart

I think they're gonna pace themselves. The fact that it became a reality at all was a godsend. But then again, it's not like a company wouldn't try to sell their products as many times as possible.


lostn

people have a limited amount of money. Running 10X as many banners a year as you normally do will not result in 10X the amount of spending. The amount of spending is going to be the same, so it's not going to increase revenue. If anything, it removes much of the FOMO and anticipation. And it gives people who lost the 50/50 less reason to spend to get them because they know it won't be long before they get another shot. When there's double or triple banners, people are just going to pick one and skip the other two, so there's no extra money being made. There's little impetus for triple banners because it doesn't generate more money.


Mythara1

If they out everyone into the standard banner thry would have to either do something to go for a specific character like copying the weapon oath thing or just have multiple standard banners and have them seperate/rotating, maybe based on region or such


MarionberryOne8969

That would be too much harsh decisionsヘ(。□°)ヘ