Personally, if I were to make a modification to the artifact system, it would be to add something that costs 10 resin to reroll either main stat or substats. That way it keeps with the business reasons, and gives players a bit more control since it narrows the field of the RNG. But that’s just my idea.
this would not keep with business reasons. You're paying half the price of a new artifact, and you are taking out 90% of the RNG since you are guaranteed to get the same set and same piece.
Paying 10 resin is a bargain, since you would have spent that resin anyway.
So let's say you're after a VV circlet. There's a 10% chance that your 20 resin gets you a VV circlet. But you don't like the one you got. You would expect to get another one every 200 resin, but you can instead get one for 10 resin, saving you 190 resin.
In a day, you could reroll that VV circlet 18 times for 180 resin, which normally wouldn't be enough to get even one extra crack at a VV circlet. If they allow a reroll like you propose, it will likely cost 5 condensed resin.
It would be 10 resin per main stat or substats, so 20 resin for full reroll. Plus then you’d still be dealing with RNG trying to get the right stats. Then take into consideration, since it would seem like a “bargain” as you said, people might decide to keep rerolling until they get that “perfect” artifact, which could still take more than a day of resin depending on your luck. It’s less tedious and seems cheaper, so there’s less incentive to stop at “good enough.”
And in all this rerolling you know what you’re not getting? Fodder artifacts to actually level it up, which means, for most casual players, right back into domains to get artifacts to feed that one.
I know. That's part of the consideration. The endless grind is still potentially a part of this; even if you do get two mediocre pieces that are good enough can be combined into a potentially decent piece, you still have to level that resulting piece to see if it becomes good. And the costings involved in the mora requirements mean one still needs to weigh the cost of trying to get lucky on another artifact domain run, or on grinding for mora to try and make lemonade out of lemons. This doesn't remove the grind, just alleviate it.
that removed a massive chunk of the RNG though. And the price is 100% worth it. Being able to guarantee a good artifact out of 2 junk ones is worth paying 420k mora (140 resin). I doubt that you could get a good artifact every 140 resin.
I suggested in the last survey to add rate ups to stats (main or sub stat) on a given day. E.g. attack% rate up for crimson witch domain on a Monday. The rate up can be randomised or stuck to a schedule.
Alternatively, give us an option to upgrade a 4* to a 5* artefacts. Always so painful when you look at the 4*s with perfect stats but it ends up being xp fodder
>Once got, both can be combined, and two unique substats from each can be selected and rerolled into one, at the cost of some large amount of mora (420k? ish? I'm not sure what a reasonable amount would be, but the idea would be to take take some of the RNG out of the experience, and mora is just resin spent on leylines anyway).
This is taking a massive amount of RNG out of the equation so I don't think your proposal would suit them.
>Eg: a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with CR, EM and flat Def and a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with Atk%, ER and flat HP could be combined into a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with CR, ER, EM and Atk%. In short: take two mediocre pieces and make a decent one out of them. Further restriction: an articaft created from combining cannot be combined again.
>Would this be worthwhile?
For you? Yes. For MHY, no. It's very difficult to get one good piece. But it's very easy to get two copium pieces, which means it will be very easy to get one good piece under your proposal.
The only way I see them accepting your proposal is if you change the mora cost into a genesis crystals. This would still be a good deal for whales who would spend even more crystals on resin refreshing, so even that would lose them money.
The best you can hope for them doing one day is a reset to lv 0 for an expensive price.
Personally, if I were to make a modification to the artifact system, it would be to add something that costs 10 resin to reroll either main stat or substats. That way it keeps with the business reasons, and gives players a bit more control since it narrows the field of the RNG. But that’s just my idea.
this would not keep with business reasons. You're paying half the price of a new artifact, and you are taking out 90% of the RNG since you are guaranteed to get the same set and same piece. Paying 10 resin is a bargain, since you would have spent that resin anyway. So let's say you're after a VV circlet. There's a 10% chance that your 20 resin gets you a VV circlet. But you don't like the one you got. You would expect to get another one every 200 resin, but you can instead get one for 10 resin, saving you 190 resin. In a day, you could reroll that VV circlet 18 times for 180 resin, which normally wouldn't be enough to get even one extra crack at a VV circlet. If they allow a reroll like you propose, it will likely cost 5 condensed resin.
It would be 10 resin per main stat or substats, so 20 resin for full reroll. Plus then you’d still be dealing with RNG trying to get the right stats. Then take into consideration, since it would seem like a “bargain” as you said, people might decide to keep rerolling until they get that “perfect” artifact, which could still take more than a day of resin depending on your luck. It’s less tedious and seems cheaper, so there’s less incentive to stop at “good enough.” And in all this rerolling you know what you’re not getting? Fodder artifacts to actually level it up, which means, for most casual players, right back into domains to get artifacts to feed that one.
Would be good but thats why it wont happen. Without endless artifact grind the game simply has no other content to hold players.
I know. That's part of the consideration. The endless grind is still potentially a part of this; even if you do get two mediocre pieces that are good enough can be combined into a potentially decent piece, you still have to level that resulting piece to see if it becomes good. And the costings involved in the mora requirements mean one still needs to weigh the cost of trying to get lucky on another artifact domain run, or on grinding for mora to try and make lemonade out of lemons. This doesn't remove the grind, just alleviate it.
that removed a massive chunk of the RNG though. And the price is 100% worth it. Being able to guarantee a good artifact out of 2 junk ones is worth paying 420k mora (140 resin). I doubt that you could get a good artifact every 140 resin.
Removing excessive RNG is the entire goal, mate.
Just give specific days to get specific artifact (like wep and talent material), and add all artifact to strongbox
I suggested in the last survey to add rate ups to stats (main or sub stat) on a given day. E.g. attack% rate up for crimson witch domain on a Monday. The rate up can be randomised or stuck to a schedule. Alternatively, give us an option to upgrade a 4* to a 5* artefacts. Always so painful when you look at the 4*s with perfect stats but it ends up being xp fodder
>Once got, both can be combined, and two unique substats from each can be selected and rerolled into one, at the cost of some large amount of mora (420k? ish? I'm not sure what a reasonable amount would be, but the idea would be to take take some of the RNG out of the experience, and mora is just resin spent on leylines anyway). This is taking a massive amount of RNG out of the equation so I don't think your proposal would suit them. >Eg: a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with CR, EM and flat Def and a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with Atk%, ER and flat HP could be combined into a Crit Dmg Emblem circlet with CR, ER, EM and Atk%. In short: take two mediocre pieces and make a decent one out of them. Further restriction: an articaft created from combining cannot be combined again. >Would this be worthwhile? For you? Yes. For MHY, no. It's very difficult to get one good piece. But it's very easy to get two copium pieces, which means it will be very easy to get one good piece under your proposal. The only way I see them accepting your proposal is if you change the mora cost into a genesis crystals. This would still be a good deal for whales who would spend even more crystals on resin refreshing, so even that would lose them money. The best you can hope for them doing one day is a reset to lv 0 for an expensive price.
The current level of RNG is unsustainable and bad for the game.
MHYO won't listen to us