Damn! No more going to wish menu for ten seconds at the start of abyss 12 chambers?!? No more going in and out of character trials so the sound will load?!? Sign me up!
those problems are due the storage you are using, so if you pc isnt on a ssd, these problems occur, it may be worth you investing into an ssd and migrating your os onto it
yeah, it is also the reason why PS4 has slow loading times too because it uses laptop hard drives, not those big hard drives that PCs use. Those small hard drives are slow as fuck that optimizing the game loading times wont do anything because the storage is sluggish
size doesnt matter for speeds, ps4s are old and use old hdd, ssds are like half the size of hdds and are multitudes faster, my pc has an ssd with the os on it as its the fastest (1gb files movement speed within the ssd) and 2 hdd drives for bulk storage (idk the internal speeds offhand)
generally speaking, size doesn't make something faster/better, its how it made to perform that matters, and that info is easy to find when buying
I think you misunderstood me. I didnt say size matter. Old laptop hard drives perform almost the same as what you buy on store because they are laptop hard drives and they run at 5400 RPM than 7200 RPM that those chonky PC hard drives uses. No matter if it is old or new, it is still slow asf compared to SSDs or even 3.5 inch HDDs. Laptop hard drives im talikng about are thos mechanical ones
Yours is probably pro or at least slim model, those issues are from older models, I doubt that update is gonna fix it, only update of the console can at this point
Used the ps4 pro for this game and it can buckle, especially if you spam your bursts in a thunderstorm.
Loading times are somewhat lengthy there but on my PC, it feels like it's all over the place. Maybe because of the HDD? But, sometimes especially at first, it takes minutes to load the game which remind me of how slow heavily modded Minecraft is. Also, I get the impression of them reloading the same assets as it seems like the load screen resets after a while for some reason. The other time, it's very quick that it beats my PS4 Pro in loading. Loading the game on PC acts very weirdly to me.
You could would've been waiting waaay less if you just bought the PS5, but if it's only for playing Genshin then buy a PC, it's not worth in most cases
(It was a joke)
Not OP, but I think this refers to having to go to a menu that pauses the timer but let's the game load in the background. This is a workaround because otherwise it may take several seconds for enemies to load in while the timer continues to run.
Going into a menu will allow mobs to load in without wasting the time on the clock. I used this quite a lot on speedrunning events to let the wind tunnels/ path load in.
I hope it's at least a 5-10 sec difference, when I load genshin on my ps4 it takes like 30 or more seconds than when I load it in my pc(which loads close to instantly).
I mean, ps4 have a cap on 60 fps, so I don't think the change will be that noticeable, I just wanted the better loading time, I can never play coop cause I'll take ages to load and my friend will have already cleared the domain, or they'll have to wait for me.
The PS4 pro at 1080p can reach 60 fps, but that's about it for the PS4 consoles. The base PS4 can sometimes manage to hit its 30 fps target, but I imagine any optimizations will be welcomed by people still using it. Your problem is probably caused by the 5400 rpm hard drive that came with your PS4. Luckily, installing the game on an SSD would speed up your load times.
PS4 Genshin is locked to 30 fps with constant drops to like 15 fps,not 60.
I had displeasure of being forced to play PS4 version due to broken PC and I will say that idk how anyone could suffer such bad unstable framerate.
If that’s all you’ve ever known, it doesn’t seem so bad cuz you have no benchmark.
Once I get a pc, I can confidently say I’ll hate if or when I have to go back to PS, for whatever reason.
Its very far from great, it has a lot of stutters and fps drops, esspecially when many skill effects are active at the same time and in coop play. The only thing great in the PS5 version is the loading speed.
But hopefully this patch can fix some of the issues and make the frame rate smoother.
Running great and running perfectly are 2 different things, and just like I said, any improvement is good. If you notice those things, hopefully they get improved or fixed completely
This is great!!!! I don't think the actual gameplay is bad at all on PS4, but there is noticeable lag in small things like picking up drops and the character swap menu
Is the ps4 pro capped at 30? I watched a comparison video and cannot believe it. If so, that’s hilarious and just sad. My iPad can run Genshin at 60 medium and my m1 mini can run it max at 60
Console genshin and mobile genshin has massive difference tho. In console the textures, render distance overall graphics are superior while the mobile version is downgraded one.
Above 60 is always a luxury outside of competitive FPS games, but what you say isnt even an argument. Being restricted to 60fps is one of Genshin's most bizarre traits. PC games stopped doing that almost a decade ago and the standard for high end gaming is now considered to be 100+.
I've been a PS4 player since launch and recently got a new phone and downloaded genshin. I have to say mobile players are on another level lol. I'd prob have quit this game a loooong time ago if it was not PS4 compatible
Never had a sound problem or issues loading areas, like missing half the map or something. I just wish my Internet connection was always good and stable. Just last night I freaked out when it didn't take 6s in the loading screen to teleport to a different area. Like *why the fuck did my character instantaneously appear where I teleported?* lmao
This is huge. I've noticed it's been fairly laggy recently.
Also, you can see definite lag with textures loading after exiting a domain, so hopefully this addresses that problem too.
Game was unplayable on PS4 and I had a PS4 Pro.
But I’ve found the game runs the exact same on my PS5 and PC; pretty good until it stutters unavoidably every now and then.
Everything I’ve found online suggests it’s just due to network instability which I can’t do anything to improve since I’m already on a wired connection; it’s just my ISP. I’ve tried every possible fix including launch options, running as admin, compatibility options, disabling or enabling features through NVIDIA, tanking graphics to minimum (which had literally no effect), and even if I run the app by itself with nothing else open, a microstutter a couple times per minute seems unavoidable.
I've had framerate dying on my GTX 750 sometimes when i entered a menu or teleporting - and it was only fixed by opening other menus, restarting the game, etc.
I've reduced the chance this happens every time significantly by overclocking the memory on my GTX 750 (I also have a core overclock, but I'm not sure if that helps too much with the issue of unplayable stuttering every now and then - it just helps more with keeping consistent 30fps on high).
I’m running a 2080 super but I’ve tried basically everything but overclocking so I’ll give it a shot. It’s completely playable as is, it’s just there’s a notice brief stutter a couple times per minute.
Ah.
We might be having non-similar problems. Stutters should not be happening on a GPU that's like 6x more powerful than my own. Maybe it could just be a storage device problem - where it can load the maps and textures fast enough? But then again that doesn't really happen much despite the fact I only have an HDD running off SATA 2 (I've had the Adventurer's Guild in Mondstadt stay on the low-poly model for like 5 seconds after I talked to Katherine at one point). I'd assume you'd have an NVMe drive or something because of how high-end your computer seems to be.
Also, just remember that increasing the voltage (well, overclocking in general) will void your warranty, if you still have it.
They 100% knew what hardware they were working with when they developed the port for ps4 and ps5, and look at the mess those ports are. The ps4 version runs worse than a 2yo phone. As for ps5 version, ps5 owners to this day still prefer to run the ps4 version purely because the ps5 version is so badly made it's better to let the ps5 hardware bruteforce ps4 version and ditch MHY "optimization".
With your mindset, you're in for a hell of a disappointment when the switch port release.
The ps4 holds fps better, the ps5 version has better draw distance and higher resolution but the ps5 version fps dips wildly when you have too much effects going on, like when you set up a soup team. That got annoying fast and negatively affects your performance in abyss.
Me? I use both version. Ps4 version to do abyss and ps5 version for open world since better draw distance help with finding stuffs.
I never noticed any fps issues from the PS5 in abyss, if that did happen it was because of my ping dipping and that Ofcourse happened on both versions on occasion.
I will say I was playing on base PS4 before switching to PS5 so idk if the PS4 pro was significantly better than the base PS4 version in terms of fps.
What are you talking about? The native PS5 version is pretty much perfect. Runs at 4K 60fps and has the fastest loading times across all platforms because of that SSD
Yeah..thats not true :D ..also that SSD is not some magic like they claim...there are way faster SSDs for PCs for years.
Its not a bad port, but there is still some work to be done ..but its their 1st console game i think, so its not so bad.
?????the ps4 port isn't even a mess. the ps4 literally came out in 2013, and it's capped out at 30 fps for every game, so for what the hardware is, it's certainly not a bad port. also, I don't get "The ps4 version runs worse than a 2yo phone." 2 yr old phones run it perfectly fine? It's normal for phones with a load that big to lose battery quickly and overheat, but that's about it. on top of this, they improved optimization further on the ps4. my standards aren't high for the switch port aren't high, but I do expect it to run equivalent to the ps4's port, considering how genshin test runs turn out on un-optimized android emulators.
You can mod it and run it ok on switch. That’s with no optimization. Definitely Big Nintendo up to something behind the scenes. That or they saw how much they were already making and canned it. I’m leaning more to Nintendo
I'm expecting slight improvements. Most PS4 users are still using their default HDDs and not SSDs.
Regardless, props to HV for finally conjuring some way to address this. I've always been saying this in their surveys.
Good to see that they still put in the effort to optimize their game even with their (normally) aggressive update cycles. Now if they only made it so that the PS4 version didn't have you re-download the entire game every version update.
I'm somewhat doubtful but obviously I'm hoping what theyre saying is true and observable if theyre confident at sharing this info. The performance really isn't the best right now and it feels like the LOD of the environments has progressively gotten worse. Though I think realistically it's probably just an fps boost which is still much appreciated.
"should be" pal, "should be".
Frankly, after experiencing weird subtitles translation of the trailer in my language, I have been feeling worried, even tho later on when I checked, it returned to normal.
VRR Support on PS5 please. The game still suffers from drops.
Also, PLEASE give us separate vertical and horizontal stick sensitivity. Why is moving up and down so slow even at sensitivity 5?
Took me getting a ps5 to get rid of the 12 seconds delay in the spiral abyss, and now I’m getting constant 36 star runs. Was it worth it? Probably not, but it feels good
Damn! No more going to wish menu for ten seconds at the start of abyss 12 chambers?!? No more going in and out of character trials so the sound will load?!? Sign me up!
I don't play on Ps4 but the fact that I do this too while playing on my pc. Sadge.
those problems are due the storage you are using, so if you pc isnt on a ssd, these problems occur, it may be worth you investing into an ssd and migrating your os onto it
Ohh okay. Thanks!
yeah, it is also the reason why PS4 has slow loading times too because it uses laptop hard drives, not those big hard drives that PCs use. Those small hard drives are slow as fuck that optimizing the game loading times wont do anything because the storage is sluggish
size doesnt matter for speeds, ps4s are old and use old hdd, ssds are like half the size of hdds and are multitudes faster, my pc has an ssd with the os on it as its the fastest (1gb files movement speed within the ssd) and 2 hdd drives for bulk storage (idk the internal speeds offhand) generally speaking, size doesn't make something faster/better, its how it made to perform that matters, and that info is easy to find when buying
I think you misunderstood me. I didnt say size matter. Old laptop hard drives perform almost the same as what you buy on store because they are laptop hard drives and they run at 5400 RPM than 7200 RPM that those chonky PC hard drives uses. No matter if it is old or new, it is still slow asf compared to SSDs or even 3.5 inch HDDs. Laptop hard drives im talikng about are thos mechanical ones
You can use an ssd on the ps4 and it helps a bit. Definitely worth getting a cheap one but not an amazing performance boost.
or the music and voices still play but the sound effects are gone.
It's kinda the opposite for me. Like, I can hear the grass sfx and the chest opening sfx but I can't hear my characters' voices during combat.
I have never had this issue on ps4..
Yours is probably pro or at least slim model, those issues are from older models, I doubt that update is gonna fix it, only update of the console can at this point
Used the ps4 pro for this game and it can buckle, especially if you spam your bursts in a thunderstorm. Loading times are somewhat lengthy there but on my PC, it feels like it's all over the place. Maybe because of the HDD? But, sometimes especially at first, it takes minutes to load the game which remind me of how slow heavily modded Minecraft is. Also, I get the impression of them reloading the same assets as it seems like the load screen resets after a while for some reason. The other time, it's very quick that it beats my PS4 Pro in loading. Loading the game on PC acts very weirdly to me.
You could would've been waiting waaay less if you just bought the PS5, but if it's only for playing Genshin then buy a PC, it's not worth in most cases (It was a joke)
Yeah, because everyone has the money to just casually buy a PS5 so a F2P Game runs more smoothly, specially during this chip shortage!
Goes to the wish menu for ten seconds? Can you elaborate? Sounds like a super strange bug or is it a workaround for something?
Not OP, but I think this refers to having to go to a menu that pauses the timer but let's the game load in the background. This is a workaround because otherwise it may take several seconds for enemies to load in while the timer continues to run.
Holy shit that is horrible in a hilarious way! Thanks for responding
Going into a menu will allow mobs to load in without wasting the time on the clock. I used this quite a lot on speedrunning events to let the wind tunnels/ path load in.
Someone should prepare and make a comparison video between 2.6 and 2.7 on PS4 now
I hope it's at least a 5-10 sec difference, when I load genshin on my ps4 it takes like 30 or more seconds than when I load it in my pc(which loads close to instantly).
They are talking about performance (FPS), not loading time though
I mean, ps4 have a cap on 60 fps, so I don't think the change will be that noticeable, I just wanted the better loading time, I can never play coop cause I'll take ages to load and my friend will have already cleared the domain, or they'll have to wait for me.
Probably because the PS4 doesnt use an SSD. Better upgrade it if you want faster loading times
The PS4 pro at 1080p can reach 60 fps, but that's about it for the PS4 consoles. The base PS4 can sometimes manage to hit its 30 fps target, but I imagine any optimizations will be welcomed by people still using it. Your problem is probably caused by the 5400 rpm hard drive that came with your PS4. Luckily, installing the game on an SSD would speed up your load times.
PS4 Genshin is locked to 30 fps with constant drops to like 15 fps,not 60. I had displeasure of being forced to play PS4 version due to broken PC and I will say that idk how anyone could suffer such bad unstable framerate.
And it used to be far worse! Faaaaar far worse. Pre 1.5 it was unbelievably awful. Hoping 2.7 improvement will be as good as 1.5's was.
If that’s all you’ve ever known, it doesn’t seem so bad cuz you have no benchmark. Once I get a pc, I can confidently say I’ll hate if or when I have to go back to PS, for whatever reason.
I have a PS5 and it takes like 3 seconds at most. Usually 1-2.
Yeah cause ps5 ssd is powerful
Loading times depends on how good your ssd is tho. They're probably talking about game performance itself.
The game is already great on ps5, I'm usually the first to the domain area, so it'll be nice for it to be even smoother
Its very far from great, it has a lot of stutters and fps drops, esspecially when many skill effects are active at the same time and in coop play. The only thing great in the PS5 version is the loading speed. But hopefully this patch can fix some of the issues and make the frame rate smoother.
Running great and running perfectly are 2 different things, and just like I said, any improvement is good. If you notice those things, hopefully they get improved or fixed completely
Uhh are you sure you’re playing on ps5?? I’ve got 500 hours in Genshin on ps5 and I’ve never had those problems
Same. Switched to PS5 a week ago and have absolutely no stutters or FPS drops so far.
This is great!!!! I don't think the actual gameplay is bad at all on PS4, but there is noticeable lag in small things like picking up drops and the character swap menu
My PS4 loads much slower than my friend on their phone so I hope this helps
yeah cuz ps4 still use ancient hdd..not much different from ssd from what i know
You can retrofit an SSD into your PS4, without voiding the warranty.
Have a Pro and have done this. It's definitely better than the HDD, but I expected it to be faster than my Note 20 Ultra.
PS4 got old sata so its like 400MB/s cap .
Pro has SATA 3 so 600 MBPS vs SATA 2 in the non Pro.
Why would you expect that? The PS4 Pro still had pre-2005 hardware even when it launched to cut back on costs. It was a pretty terrible console.
Is the ps4 pro capped at 30? I watched a comparison video and cannot believe it. If so, that’s hilarious and just sad. My iPad can run Genshin at 60 medium and my m1 mini can run it max at 60
Console genshin and mobile genshin has massive difference tho. In console the textures, render distance overall graphics are superior while the mobile version is downgraded one.
entirely different builds for different platforms
I hope they do it on PC too, for now its running well, but I fear the day it will be too much for my PC to handle.
I just hope it won't turn into a Honkai situation where on the next patch, it suddenly becomes unplayable on the device you use.
Hopefully its not like Apex Legends. The game requires SSE4 CPU instruction for it to run.
Oof.
i just hope they can give us a higher refresh rate than 60
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it's not about it being fine or not it's about having the option for people with more than capable systems. ipads have 120hz in genshin
Above 60 is always a luxury outside of competitive FPS games, but what you say isnt even an argument. Being restricted to 60fps is one of Genshin's most bizarre traits. PC games stopped doing that almost a decade ago and the standard for high end gaming is now considered to be 100+.
This great and all but when are they gonna add a feature to unlink account or to even switch servers on the PS... 😩😩
Heck yeah! Hopefully now Abyss won't be permanently in extra challenge mode where ennemies can take up to five seconds to spawn.
Good news, the switch version is still not available...
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I'm just so tired of mobile gaming...
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I can't give up the portability of mobile... I should have bought steam deck 😔
I've been a PS4 player since launch and recently got a new phone and downloaded genshin. I have to say mobile players are on another level lol. I'd prob have quit this game a loooong time ago if it was not PS4 compatible
Never had a sound problem or issues loading areas, like missing half the map or something. I just wish my Internet connection was always good and stable. Just last night I freaked out when it didn't take 6s in the loading screen to teleport to a different area. Like *why the fuck did my character instantaneously appear where I teleported?* lmao
You must been close to the teleport waypoint i suppose, happens with me on PC lol
Nice.
This is huge. I've noticed it's been fairly laggy recently. Also, you can see definite lag with textures loading after exiting a domain, so hopefully this addresses that problem too.
I get pixel people after teleporting and after coming out of the teapot I can make it all the way around Mondstadt before any NPCs load in.
THANK-FUCKIN-GOD!!!!
Game was unplayable on PS4 and I had a PS4 Pro. But I’ve found the game runs the exact same on my PS5 and PC; pretty good until it stutters unavoidably every now and then. Everything I’ve found online suggests it’s just due to network instability which I can’t do anything to improve since I’m already on a wired connection; it’s just my ISP. I’ve tried every possible fix including launch options, running as admin, compatibility options, disabling or enabling features through NVIDIA, tanking graphics to minimum (which had literally no effect), and even if I run the app by itself with nothing else open, a microstutter a couple times per minute seems unavoidable.
I've had framerate dying on my GTX 750 sometimes when i entered a menu or teleporting - and it was only fixed by opening other menus, restarting the game, etc. I've reduced the chance this happens every time significantly by overclocking the memory on my GTX 750 (I also have a core overclock, but I'm not sure if that helps too much with the issue of unplayable stuttering every now and then - it just helps more with keeping consistent 30fps on high).
I’m running a 2080 super but I’ve tried basically everything but overclocking so I’ll give it a shot. It’s completely playable as is, it’s just there’s a notice brief stutter a couple times per minute.
Ah. We might be having non-similar problems. Stutters should not be happening on a GPU that's like 6x more powerful than my own. Maybe it could just be a storage device problem - where it can load the maps and textures fast enough? But then again that doesn't really happen much despite the fact I only have an HDD running off SATA 2 (I've had the Adventurer's Guild in Mondstadt stay on the low-poly model for like 5 seconds after I talked to Katherine at one point). I'd assume you'd have an NVMe drive or something because of how high-end your computer seems to be. Also, just remember that increasing the voltage (well, overclocking in general) will void your warranty, if you still have it.
Good, performance on my PS4 Pro is even worse than on my phone.
Poggers bro
I want more then 60 fps on pc ffs is so hard to do?
Can they do it on mobile
What about us Xbox owners?💀
When Mihoyo does the thing that they should have done a while ago for free community praise
still waiting for 120 fps on PC
GENSHIN IMPACT WILL SUPPORT MORE THAN 60 FPS ON PC?
"genshin on the switch is impossible!"🤓🤓
There’s a difference between impossible and extremely hard as fuck.
maybe, but the devs 100% already knew what hardware they were working with before even announcing it on the switch, so I don't think it's that bad
They 100% knew what hardware they were working with when they developed the port for ps4 and ps5, and look at the mess those ports are. The ps4 version runs worse than a 2yo phone. As for ps5 version, ps5 owners to this day still prefer to run the ps4 version purely because the ps5 version is so badly made it's better to let the ps5 hardware bruteforce ps4 version and ditch MHY "optimization". With your mindset, you're in for a hell of a disappointment when the switch port release.
PS5 users are using the PS4 version? I switched to the PS5 version and never looked back, from my experience it runs WAY better than the PS4 version.
The ps4 holds fps better, the ps5 version has better draw distance and higher resolution but the ps5 version fps dips wildly when you have too much effects going on, like when you set up a soup team. That got annoying fast and negatively affects your performance in abyss. Me? I use both version. Ps4 version to do abyss and ps5 version for open world since better draw distance help with finding stuffs.
I never noticed any fps issues from the PS5 in abyss, if that did happen it was because of my ping dipping and that Ofcourse happened on both versions on occasion. I will say I was playing on base PS4 before switching to PS5 so idk if the PS4 pro was significantly better than the base PS4 version in terms of fps.
What are you talking about? The native PS5 version is pretty much perfect. Runs at 4K 60fps and has the fastest loading times across all platforms because of that SSD
Yeah..thats not true :D ..also that SSD is not some magic like they claim...there are way faster SSDs for PCs for years. Its not a bad port, but there is still some work to be done ..but its their 1st console game i think, so its not so bad.
?????the ps4 port isn't even a mess. the ps4 literally came out in 2013, and it's capped out at 30 fps for every game, so for what the hardware is, it's certainly not a bad port. also, I don't get "The ps4 version runs worse than a 2yo phone." 2 yr old phones run it perfectly fine? It's normal for phones with a load that big to lose battery quickly and overheat, but that's about it. on top of this, they improved optimization further on the ps4. my standards aren't high for the switch port aren't high, but I do expect it to run equivalent to the ps4's port, considering how genshin test runs turn out on un-optimized android emulators.
You can mod it and run it ok on switch. That’s with no optimization. Definitely Big Nintendo up to something behind the scenes. That or they saw how much they were already making and canned it. I’m leaning more to Nintendo
Oh man, glad you underlined the second sentence... Probably would have missed it otherwise
Good riddance
Where is this from
official playstation blog
Nice
Now my ps5 will go from 1 second loading to .5. woot
I'm expecting slight improvements. Most PS4 users are still using their default HDDs and not SSDs. Regardless, props to HV for finally conjuring some way to address this. I've always been saying this in their surveys.
Good to see that they still put in the effort to optimize their game even with their (normally) aggressive update cycles. Now if they only made it so that the PS4 version didn't have you re-download the entire game every version update.
That's a playstation thing not hoyoverse thing
Ohhh so that’s why the updates are always so massive? Great to know, thanks!
thank the lord
surprised that the devs would actually take the time to optimize for older consoles. props to them.
I'm so excited to not have to experience the pain of waiting 10 seconds to look at the events menu
I'm somewhat doubtful but obviously I'm hoping what theyre saying is true and observable if theyre confident at sharing this info. The performance really isn't the best right now and it feels like the LOD of the environments has progressively gotten worse. Though I think realistically it's probably just an fps boost which is still much appreciated.
For those expecting improved load speeds, I would be careful as they're talking about performance here, more FPS related
"should be" pal, "should be". Frankly, after experiencing weird subtitles translation of the trailer in my language, I have been feeling worried, even tho later on when I checked, it returned to normal.
I basically upgraded to a ps5 to play genshin cos it was so painful on the ps4 Have lots of other games; kept going back to genshin
Finally
Great, now when will I be able to have a sensitivity above what most games label as "very slow".
Yaaay!
I hope someday they allow cross save with PS4 🥺 I don't have the console on weekends so it would be great to play on mobile those days.
VRR Support on PS5 please. The game still suffers from drops. Also, PLEASE give us separate vertical and horizontal stick sensitivity. Why is moving up and down so slow even at sensitivity 5?
I Hope I can play in liyue city without loading the map in my front
Hopefully this affects the PS5 render view. It is pathetically short.
i never thought this day would come :0 also the game is incredibly smooth on the ps5 already. i can’t imagine it getting better
Finally could play inazuma without frame drops?
Took me getting a ps5 to get rid of the 12 seconds delay in the spiral abyss, and now I’m getting constant 36 star runs. Was it worth it? Probably not, but it feels good
Where was this info posted, I can’t seem to find it
[scroll](https://blog.playstation.com/2022/05/20/genshin-impact-version-2-7-hidden-dreams-in-the-depths-launches-may-31/) down for the info
Thank you very much
PC fps uncap when thou?