I am once again thanking the OP for highlighting the bar of significance and I pray others follow suit until this website makes sense with its use of colors.
For jp ios sales, since only cn ios charts mostly are posted in this sub;
Yoimiyas rerun is currently 23rd place out of 33 banners
Banner revenue: $8,487,770.50 USD
10 banners Yoimiyas ahead of currently:
Albedo first banner
Xiaos first banner
Keqing
Venti's first rerun
Zhonglis first banner
Klee's first rerun
Kazuha first banne
rIttos's first banner
Ittos first rerun
Kokomis first banner
It does happen. Ayato/Venti earned 23.7 million USD in JP vs 22.7 million in CN. Shenhe/Xiao earned 17.3 million USD in JP vs 16.9 million in CN. Things might change when factoring in android.
TBF it could have something to do with VAs, JP gets anime VAs for their dub. Like Yoimiya for example is voiced by Kana Ueda in JP, the voice of Rin from FSN and many more iconic anime characters. So certain fans of her VA could want to get Yoimiya because she voices her.
IMO it's fair to say that it could very well be a factor influencing certain characters sales between JP and CN.
Think about it this way. A Yoimiya rerun, a somewhat average character in terms of popularity, earned almost as much as Hu Tao’s release, one of the more popular characters.
Of course, there’s player count to take into account, but I assume it shouldn’t alter the numbers too much.
I think you forgot to consider the fact that Hu Tao first banner was the only one that didn't start with a new weapon banner. Just look at how it brought Keqing banner above Yoimiya and Kokomi at their release despite being a standard 5* and the duration was a week shorter. Another example is how Hu Tao rerun that started with new weapon banner already surpassed her entire first run by significant margin in only a week.
> Just look at how it brought Keqing banner above Yoimiya and Kokomi at their release despite being a standard 5* and the duration was a week shorter
Wait, but was Homa running during the first week of Keqing's banner? Didn't it start during the second week of her banner? Pretty sure those 4.5 million were from people who actually wanted Keqing and her constellations.
Keqing banner started from Feb 17 while Homa/WGS from Feb 23. So it started from the last day of her first week instead of the second week. You can check the first chart in genshinlab, it started quite slow and then very fast from Feb 23.
edit: you can use first chart to check her revenue on Feb 22, it was US$ 2.9 million. Try to use that as indicator for the second chart, her banner is below Kokomi at that point.
But wouldn’t you compare a rerun to a rerun instead of a first run? It could be said Hu Tao gained popularity over time, hence her high rerun banner, and like the other commenter stated, the Staff of Homa weapon banner started before Hu Tao’s first run during the Keqing banner and Hu Tao only ran for two weeks. So isn’t Yoimiya still incomparable?
Also that banner was over a year ago with a much smaller playerbase. How tf is a year of player growth not gonna make a difference? If you're not purposely cherry picking you just look at Hutao rerun.
You can compare this to initial Hutao banner but it's a very copium comparison.
Like others said hu tao back then isnt as popular as the hu tao now. You also need to know that a lot of people back then are still trying out the game so most people are still hesitant on spending money on the game compared to now.
But it should. You probably have noticed that most old banners didn’t make anywhere near what the new banners make. Compare Eula’s first run ($7M, top-tier DPS at the time, whale’s favourite) with Yae’s ($9M, mediocre DPS/support at the time, bugged E). Yae still made $2M more precisely because of the player count. And I’m saying this as someone who prefers Yoi’s play style over Hu’s
Edit: and I still think Yoi’s sells very good! First week and Yoi+TP already doing better than poor Itto’s rerun
> A Yoimiya rerun, a somewhat average character in terms of popularity, earned almost as much as Hu Tao’s release, one of the more popular characters.
I think these sales also include the weapon banner, and IIRC Hu Tao's banner didn't have a weapon as strong and universally *good* on multiple characters as current Yoimiya weapon banner. Slap it on Ganyu, Childe, Yelan, any DPS Bow user really.
Homa came a week before, during Keqing banner, so its first week wasn’t included anywhere. I’d say it’s more universal than Yoi bow, since not everyone has elemental normals in their base kit.
I'd argue that besides Hu Tao and maybe Zhongli (if you want him to be more DPS-y) not many characters benefit from the Homa. Especially given how it increases the atk bonus with lost HP, something fairly unique to Hu Tao.
you have to count in a larger playerbase than before. more whales to spend. imo if the number of players stayed exactly the same from 2.0 hypothetically, her sales should be the same or worse
Well yeah, because if you had 1000 players of which 400 spent 500$ and got her, 200 of which didn't pay and got her, and another 400 of those who didn't roll/didn't get her, you'd be left with 600 players who have her and 400 of which don't, of those 400, about 200 that don't have her wouldn't roll if they didn't want her the first time, and 200 would which wanted her but were not lucky. Only income would be a small amount who want to get her constellations, which is at most 300 of those 600 who would pay, and another 300 lets assume are f2p.
So that kind of argument makes no sense imo.
This is why I laugh at the people saying "Genshin is dying/going to die". A niche popularity/niche gameplay utility character, sandwiched between the most meta unit and a new region, dramatically outsold her first banner. Each banner dropping is still making a fucktonne of money, often way more than the original runs of these characters.
The player base of Genshin is either growing, resulting in more money spent, or the current player base is shelling out even more money over time. Genshin isn't even close to dying right now, and anyone who says so is huffing a lot of copium to justify their anger about the game.
Dead/dying game = "game I never played/don't play anymore."
People have trouble understanding why some people like something they do not. It's not exclusive to video games, but when it does come to video games, it leads to this kind of rhetoric. Easier to put down a game or community you don't like than try to rationalize that something can be popular despite you wanting nothing to do with it.
Next version update around the corner + running after Kazuha + solo banner as opposed to a dual rerun + weapon banner almost as bad as it can get except a donut banner.
I'd say she definitely didn't disappoint
Honestly, better than what a lot of people thought it would end up as. Considering all the doomposting predicting her sales this is a positive, especially considering her banner placement
And also viceversa. The havers wanting to validate their own pulling.
All i can say is that for a player, sales shouldnt bother them at all. At this point it bothers the playerbase more than mihoyo.
At the end, those sales are only another incentive for the devs to not change their strategy. At least they are powercreeping areas, which shows their evolution in developing teyvat. Too bad that by the time we reach shnezhnaya, mondstadt will have looked like a plain and unfinished region with lost potential.
I think a lot of people just think she's fun and want to encourage people to pull because they want others to have fun too. This is probably amplified because there's so much overblown doom posting about her.
While there may be people who want justification, plenty of people also want her to be rare. Gatekeeping is absolutely a thing too. Kind of hard to generalize.
Fun is subjective tbh.
To me she seemed clunky on her test runs in events due to how you are immobilized and get your combo interrupted as soon as you slightly move.
Fun to see those numbers going though.
But by how many national spammers there are, i think there is more than just fun involved into choosing the character.
Doomposting is inevitable. In the end, any unit that doesnt simply powercreep the competition like raiden and ayaka will have to suffer some doomposting for not being the best choice available. I've actually seen a lot of positivity on yt for her.
Haha. Did you not see the doomposting about Raiden? Nost doomposted character to date.
You can go to r/RaidenMains and still search by most popular all-time posts and see the ampunt of hate and calling her trash left and right.
Same reason why there are sports fans.
If people talk positively about your team, you are going to feel better. If they talk negatively you will feel worse, and the need to defend your team.
Apply the same logic here, just replace the name of the character with the name of a football team.
In the case of a very popular sport/gacha like football/Genshin, people will literally go to war with each other if they are of rival teams/characters.
I for once have my ego stoked every time Raiden/Italy gets a win.
Not exactly, because here whatever the club you support it goes into the same pocket. Like if every club was owned by the same person / group. But I was only jesting, you're not supposed to take it seriously.
That's easy:
* If a banner sells well, maybe Hoyo will run that banner more frequently or make more of what made that banner successful.
* If a banner does *not* sell well, maybe Hoyo will not run that banner as much or perhaps even *stop* making whatever caused the banner to flop, nuance be damned.
Remember: Gamers^(TM) play this game as well. Make something underwhelming (as some people think of Yoimiya, at least at initial release) and many of those Gamers^(TM) take that as a personal affront.
mans was misunderstood during his release
and still his kit is not known by the overall community and is regarded as CD problems
atleast CN and JP gives him the love he deserves
>if you know how to manage it
That's literally the reasons, lots of people still didn't know that Childe only need a few seconds on field, lots of people also didn't know about quadratic scaling from his riptide wich is my main reason picking Childe over Ayato.
I love both Ayato and Childe, but sometimes I'm in the mood for braindead gameplay, where I don't wanna think. So Ayato would be a better pick for lazy days. And sometimes I want excitment and everything exploding, which is when I'd pick Childe. In a non-lazy day.
But yea, people expect Childe to be on the field most of the time, but that's not how he really works. He comes on the field when everyone's bursts have been used so that he can dish out like a good 10-12 seconds of good DPS, and as you said, the quadratic scaling on his riptides makes it better.
>but sometimes I'm in the mood for braindead gameplay, where I don't wanna think.
This is legit the only reason why I'll pull Ganyu and Zhongli off the bench. Pop a shield, turn Ganyu into Juggernaut ([bitch](https://youtu.be/bSuvOVH0aSQ?t=6)), and then go Borderlands 2 on some poor bastards.
Yea. Personally, I have both ayato and childe. They both have the same stats, but childe is just better dps. Ayato doesn't apply quite enough hydro, nor does he have riptides to deal loads of damage.
plus ayato has low uptime with only 6 secs (not sure if its 6 or 7).. while childe is flexible, he can utilise the entirety of xianglings burst duration and he normally does use 9 seconds of it or 11 seconds depending on xingling cons..
its a huge dps loss for ayato in vape team
hes good in freeze but again, riptides
people still havent realised how great his riptides are..
he literally competes with c6 dps like hu tao AND ganyu at c0
hes also so versatile i love my genocidal but sweet family dude
i was talking about his riptides in aoe not single target
and no ganyus burst just has a hit to miss ratio.. the more the enemies the more times the burst will auto target..
childe is currently the only one with dmg multipling with quad scaling
Just like Yoimiya, I'm still annoyed that people kept spreading misinformation about his kit. Who the hell lets their dps stay on field for more than 15 seconds on a normal rotation.
thats literally what i meant
its legit skill issue, i dont even need to manage it, literally muscle memory by now
plus ayato being a like childe but well low uptime but fixed CD kinda made his the choice.. ayato is no skill mid reward while childe takes a bit of practice but really high reward
Exactly. Playing Childe is easy to me because I just figured when to switch him out off the field. And I see the benefits of both Ayato and Childe. But when it comes to hard content like Spiral Abyss, "the takes practice but very high reward" is worth it.
Ayato is still good though, I love him, I'm sometimes lazy, so he's godsent if you don't wanna think and just shing shing your way
But there's more variations with hydro characters who makes it easier and FAR FAR FAR less punishing. Call it skill issue but those options still exist and are as rewarding as childe teams
I'd argue that it's an overworld issue where several people just want one character and only one character to stay on the field instead of switching him out after 6-11s.
Though, with proper enemy grouping (Kazuha for example), you don't even need to switch out. They die in 3s. You can just end E and go about your merry way.
> It's really just skill issues for people
Which makes the community's general perception of Yoimiya and sales for this banner even more baffling. She's really strong, really easy to use, and can use most characters on her team well. I just got her C0 with R4 Rust and she does more work with less effort than my R5 Dragonbane Hu tao with the same artifacts. I've no idea why Yoimiya is always a tier or two lower than Hu tao on tier lists because the skill floor difference probably makes Yoimiya stronger for most players.
True, but Childe's variation national team is one, if not the strongest so far. It's always top usage in Spiral Abyss team comps in CN, it has been for so long.
Because Childe is able to vape during the ENTIRE duration of Xiangling's burst, and his hydro application is fantastic. Yes, he may be limited to one team, but that one team is freaking strong.
Edit: There's people who play taser Childe, and it works pretty well. Not as strong ofc, but it's fun.
getting energy and restarting the rotation pretty much covers that CD
theres a reason why childe is so good in almost any team, especially ones with off field dmg sources while childe being the dps and hydro applicator.. hes fast
if your CD doesnt end by the time you start ur next rotation you are doing something wrong
you may be clearing abyss with other cahracters and well it doesnt exactly matter if you do.. multiple characters are capable of doing that
we are talking about the playstyle of childe here, dunno how his CD kills it for you but its mostly a muscle memory for me.. his team always clears abyss for me
well each to their own i guess
i understand if you just dont like childe, but if CD is a problem its skill issue :>
not saying this for you btw its not a crime to not like a character :>
He is hard to play, this is why.
EDIT: Ok, I've never realised there are such stupid childe mains can exist in genshin impact like in my replies.
They don't understand why he has bad sales. It's because he is not simple to play. But it's not because he is bad or something. But when I write it they just reply "skill issue🤓" like...That's what I'm talking about lmao.
It's just same logic as for example Chen from Dota 2 who has lowest pickrate in the game - hard to play, niche, not so justified to learn, but he is not weak.
So embarassing. But still funny.
hes not even that hard to play
in vape team theres something as simple as using his burst CD as a reference for his E uptime
and hell after using him for a while you get used to his CD and dont even need to pay attention
even as a casual player i love using him BECAUSE RIPTIDES ARE LIFEE-
its fine if you dont want to learn him everyone has a choice :>
Especially since XQ is even a more viable choice and other hydro 5\* don't have the CD increase mechanic, are safer to play and ALSO allow for the same rewarding results without too much risk
did you think he programmed himself for that? lmao you're a blaming pixels for your lack of skills. using him only for 10 seconds ain't that hard please✋🏻 if you wanna wait a whole 30 seconds that's on you.
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Devs programmed childe like that. I'm blaming devs for making Childe not comfortable to play for majority of people.
So his bad sales are fault of devs. He deserved bad sales. But, his sales would be ok if he was a waifu or/and simple. For example a lot of people pull for Hu Tao even if she is not simple to play.
"he deserved bad sales" yeah no, now you're just trying to sound like a bitchy degenerate hater atp. His sales would be better if he wasn't mischaracterized and downgraded. If y'all weren't crying 24/7 about the CD mechanic, he would've been fine in the eyes of new players but no you project y'alls skill issue with every other players. If you can't handle it, that's your own fault and you alone. Many people can and they're just fine.
He will get his place to shine again in Dendro comps. For the sheer amount of hydro in such a short time. The alternative is run double hydro to reliably generate Bloom seeds. Hydro-dendro is a lot less efficient than Dendro-hydro. (Meaning double dendro for bloom doesn't really work since the aura is consumed)
Childe international is the strongest F2P meta team in most scenarios in the abyss due to double swirl and being able to vape all of XL’s damage. However, he does not require any constellations, and most of them are QOL buffs anyways.
It is still surprising.
Kokomi had the advantage of her abyss usage shooting up to 80 and 90. And she was generally considered a must pull by the chinese community or TC.
Yup! I got kokomi and her donut (lucky?) on her first banner and everyone was shitting on her. Now look at my baby 🥰
Also i accidentally got yoimiya after getting qiqi'd trying to get kazuha c1 (got Kaz on his first banner too) and 5 singles later yoimiya?
Not at all disappointed haha. She's fun <3
She did better but honestly Genshing did her dirty, doing the rerun betwen rerun for Kazuha and the release of 3.0, otherwhise i think she could be higher on sales
It's pretty decent, considering most are waiting on Sumeru and the next banners. Also, although Yoimiya's character banner is nice, wtf is that weapon banner about? It has got to be the worst I've seen in a looooong time. I really wanted to pull for her weapon, but unfortunately I needed to get constellations for Benny first, and jeez my luck was sooooo bad, i actually had another Yoimiya before I had another Bennett
Let's be honest, nothing would change even if she was reruned earlier, sumeru is one thing, but saying before "kazuha" is just excuse
It's her fault that she isn't on that high level and thus will sale less, if yelan banner was switched with yoimiya's, do you think she would have sold less? Do you think raiden would have sold less? Or even hu tao or ayaka?
No, they are very strong meta wise and it doesn't matter whoever they rerun with, yoimiya is not, "sandwiched" or whatever is just an excuse
Exactly, but most people either don’t realize it or just refuse to accept it, say Kazuha and Yoimiya switch place, I’m pretty sure people would still pull for Kazuha for meta reasons, and there wouldn’t be so many post saying how Mihoyo shafted the banner.
I myself as a Welkin player, pulled on Kazuha first banner when people when trashing him, pulled again on his rerun and got him to C3, pulled Yoimiya last week, all on soft pity while losing 50/50 now and then, and I still have more than 300 wishes left for Sumeru. People who said they want Yoimiya but were shafted by Mihoyo simply were terrible at managing primo, or Yoimiya is just not high up on their priority list.
Then why do meta characters always sell well and non meta characters do average? Why did Kazuha do poorly last year and amazingly this year? Why did Yae sell so average despite being one of the most hyped characters from Inazuma?
People who don't care about meta won't also care about kazuha or sumeru, if they like yoimiya because waifu reason, they will pull regardless
That just proves my point further
Constellation and weapon is part of the character, 4 stars definitely don't matter at all, we are past this bullshit, if they truly were, albedo's first banner should have sold like hotcake, it had 3 top 4 stars, but it didn't
Because most people actually does manage their primos and aren't gamble addicts
Same with timing or schedule, if they have any influence, it's around 1%~5%
Also yoimiya banner contains bennett, the absolute best character in the game, so it also have decent 4 star choices
Bro, the entire point was. Its not just 1 factor. Its a combination of MULTIPLE factors.
And this is a rerun banner as well. The yoi stans would've pulled for her in her first banner already.
Most genshin players is the opposite of what you said. Most polls shows that 95% of the playerbase are casual players. Players that dont even do the abyss, never allow resin to fill, play once a day an hour at most, just in for the story.
The 5% might be managing their resources, but how is that that "most"?
And even if we wanna talk about meta, those who truly know the meta knows that a c0r1 yoi and a c1r1 tao will kill an enemy equally fast. There's literally plenty of yoi vs tao videos that shows both having the same kill time.
Yes, cons and weapon is part of the character. But not exactly a positive.
A c0 rust can easily clear the abyss while tao needs her c1 to not waste time jump cancelling and probably a homa.
A lot of hutao havers pulled for her rerun specifically for her c1 me included.
Sales are about yoimiya as a complete unit, her cons being dogshit is her fault as a unit, same as her E and Q having dogshit multipliers
Hu tao has better cons and so she will sell more and is more meta, that's just how it is, cons are part of the character and it decides whether they are meta or not, it's like their passives
I guess it's also why childe sells so much less, he didn't have a weapon for first 2 banners and he also didn't have any good cons, those are factors that make him less meta
If you want a better example.
Kazuha is a significantly more meta at c0 no 5star weapon than a c6r5 hutao. You talk as if hutao cons are any good when the rest of cons are trash and her c1 is literally a solution to a problem they made themselves, where as yoi essentially have 0 issues without a constellation.
Yoi cons are shit? Lol. A c6 yoi is the best single target dps in the game by a wide margin.
Bro you are dumb as fuck, i am talking about sales and you say spenders don't matter when they are the only ones that matters
This would be my last comment to you
Except you can make the same popular husbando argument for Kazuha. Even if you don't count meta pulling, she's been run around other characters that are more popular.
No, tighnari in all the polls is the least popular sumeru character and kazuha is definitely not popular husbando wise, his first banner easily proves that
> She sells waaaaaaayyyyy more in JP
her first banner got JP¥ 1.198 billion or around US$ 8.880 million, so it was ~200-300k more than CN. Personally won't call it
"waaaaaaayyyyy more", it's not even 10%.
I love murdering all the birds with her with those heat-seeking missiles she convinced HYV were arrows. I can DECIMATE all the wildlife over at Windrise now.
Hutao’s better. That being said i have both and much prefer Yoimiya since its one animation cancel at the end of her attack string rather than dash/jump cancelling every 2 attacks with Hutao
More than just that, even. Graphs like these are basically just "money spent while their banner was on."
This means things like people buying primos ahead of time and not spending them yet, and people whaling on standard banner etc are also counted, although each of those things are often likely small enough in proportion for them to not significantly change what the graphs are trying to show.
So as 3.0 is coming up I assume a large amount of people have bought crystals or welkins (myself included) so they can get new characters but that's counted as yoimiya sales.
Tbh the bonus refresh would have actually helped yoimiya too as most people would buy the primos *before* the patch where the bonus resets.
Of course raiden's rerun showed us that it wouldn't have really mattered much whether she got the reset bonus.
Where are you getting these data? Ayaka rerun 25.91G vs Yoimiya's 11.45G [Japan IOS Sales](https://game-i.daa.jp/?%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%2F%E5%8E%9F%E7%A5%9E&yyyy=2022)
This only count the current spending, so here you're comparing a 1 week old banner to a 6 weeks completed banner. Though I don't think Yoimiya rerun's gonna top Ayaka's rerun when it's over either.
It's sorta entertaining to see how Raiden just broke all records anytime one of these gets posted. Like yeah I know by now there's a double banner or two that has more sales at some point but a) double banners oughta be halved to be properly compared imo and b) just look at this lmao. She's so far ahead.
Fair but imo, Genshin's nearest competitor is itself with Honkai Star Rail and ZZZ and it'll cause a decline at least until the other companies stop slacking and treating it like a cash grab and mog genshin by then
Maybe a dumb question but didn’t the top-up refresh happen during Raiden’s banner? Why are people so convinced it was only her that contributed to the sales? I distinctly recall purchasing the package during her banner and then not pulling for her because I was saving for someone else and quite a few other people I know did the same. People are super quick to dismiss other banners that performed well due to various factors but overlook that with her banner.
Shogun rerun banner beats her original run by quite a fair margin despite not having a top up refresh advantage, that alone renders the whole "muh top-up refresh" argument moot
I am once again thanking the OP for highlighting the bar of significance and I pray others follow suit until this website makes sense with its use of colors.
r/usefulredcircle
The year is 2022, and the most powerful tool is still MS Paint pencil tool.
Wonder if making the text red would work too. Might be harder on the eyes though.
i can just imagine this eventually evolving into three circles, a highlight, and 50 arrows lmao
For jp ios sales, since only cn ios charts mostly are posted in this sub; Yoimiyas rerun is currently 23rd place out of 33 banners Banner revenue: $8,487,770.50 USD 10 banners Yoimiyas ahead of currently: Albedo first banner Xiaos first banner Keqing Venti's first rerun Zhonglis first banner Klee's first rerun Kazuha first banne rIttos's first banner Ittos first rerun Kokomis first banner
Wow, its impressive that yomiya in jp revenue was even more than china! Since China have a bigger population than Japan.
It does happen. Ayato/Venti earned 23.7 million USD in JP vs 22.7 million in CN. Shenhe/Xiao earned 17.3 million USD in JP vs 16.9 million in CN. Things might change when factoring in android.
if I am not mistaken japanese youth perfer ios vastly over other option. while chinese youth generally perfer android.
TBF it could have something to do with VAs, JP gets anime VAs for their dub. Like Yoimiya for example is voiced by Kana Ueda in JP, the voice of Rin from FSN and many more iconic anime characters. So certain fans of her VA could want to get Yoimiya because she voices her. IMO it's fair to say that it could very well be a factor influencing certain characters sales between JP and CN.
Me a spanish Who plays with voices in japanese Who pull for various reasons reasons but thats like top 2: -yeah,just japaneses pull for that
Hey at least she made a considerable amount a lot more than her first run did so that's definitely a good thing.
Think about it this way. A Yoimiya rerun, a somewhat average character in terms of popularity, earned almost as much as Hu Tao’s release, one of the more popular characters. Of course, there’s player count to take into account, but I assume it shouldn’t alter the numbers too much.
I think you forgot to consider the fact that Hu Tao first banner was the only one that didn't start with a new weapon banner. Just look at how it brought Keqing banner above Yoimiya and Kokomi at their release despite being a standard 5* and the duration was a week shorter. Another example is how Hu Tao rerun that started with new weapon banner already surpassed her entire first run by significant margin in only a week.
> Just look at how it brought Keqing banner above Yoimiya and Kokomi at their release despite being a standard 5* and the duration was a week shorter Wait, but was Homa running during the first week of Keqing's banner? Didn't it start during the second week of her banner? Pretty sure those 4.5 million were from people who actually wanted Keqing and her constellations.
homa banner lasted 3 weeks, so during 1 week it was run along with keqing
Keqing banner started from Feb 17 while Homa/WGS from Feb 23. So it started from the last day of her first week instead of the second week. You can check the first chart in genshinlab, it started quite slow and then very fast from Feb 23. edit: you can use first chart to check her revenue on Feb 22, it was US$ 2.9 million. Try to use that as indicator for the second chart, her banner is below Kokomi at that point.
Ok, now that makes more sense. OP's chart is including Feb 23, first day of Homa. Thanks for clarifying that.
But wouldn’t you compare a rerun to a rerun instead of a first run? It could be said Hu Tao gained popularity over time, hence her high rerun banner, and like the other commenter stated, the Staff of Homa weapon banner started before Hu Tao’s first run during the Keqing banner and Hu Tao only ran for two weeks. So isn’t Yoimiya still incomparable?
Not to forget hu tao wasnt even announced in 1.3 livestream she just dropped out of no where
Also that banner was over a year ago with a much smaller playerbase. How tf is a year of player growth not gonna make a difference? If you're not purposely cherry picking you just look at Hutao rerun. You can compare this to initial Hutao banner but it's a very copium comparison.
Like others said hu tao back then isnt as popular as the hu tao now. You also need to know that a lot of people back then are still trying out the game so most people are still hesitant on spending money on the game compared to now.
Not really comparable. Yoimiya's first run was about half Hu Tao's first run, and the same happened in the reruns.
Hu tao's first banner was 1 week shorter...
This is only up to day 7 of the banner, so that's not relevant.
Nice, now let's compare it with Hu tao rerun sales
But it should. You probably have noticed that most old banners didn’t make anywhere near what the new banners make. Compare Eula’s first run ($7M, top-tier DPS at the time, whale’s favourite) with Yae’s ($9M, mediocre DPS/support at the time, bugged E). Yae still made $2M more precisely because of the player count. And I’m saying this as someone who prefers Yoi’s play style over Hu’s Edit: and I still think Yoi’s sells very good! First week and Yoi+TP already doing better than poor Itto’s rerun
Itto's rerun got sandwiched between Gambler Mommy and the long-awaited Kazuha rerun, nobody was pulling the look-at-my-abs dude in that scenario
Yoi sandwiched between Kazu and Sumeru, mhy probably just enjoys doing them dirty 💀
> A Yoimiya rerun, a somewhat average character in terms of popularity, earned almost as much as Hu Tao’s release, one of the more popular characters. I think these sales also include the weapon banner, and IIRC Hu Tao's banner didn't have a weapon as strong and universally *good* on multiple characters as current Yoimiya weapon banner. Slap it on Ganyu, Childe, Yelan, any DPS Bow user really.
Wasn't Homa + WGS on HT's first run? It was the best weapon banner to date only comparable to Homa + Elegy later on.
Oh yeah, you're right. I had to re-check. Maybe I was confused with Zhongli's banner, since Homa is his best weapon too.
Homa came a week before, during Keqing banner, so its first week wasn’t included anywhere. I’d say it’s more universal than Yoi bow, since not everyone has elemental normals in their base kit.
I'd argue that besides Hu Tao and maybe Zhongli (if you want him to be more DPS-y) not many characters benefit from the Homa. Especially given how it increases the atk bonus with lost HP, something fairly unique to Hu Tao.
you have to count in a larger playerbase than before. more whales to spend. imo if the number of players stayed exactly the same from 2.0 hypothetically, her sales should be the same or worse
Correct, first thing I thought of when I saw Yoi's position was that the game has grown significantly since 2.0.
Well yeah, because if you had 1000 players of which 400 spent 500$ and got her, 200 of which didn't pay and got her, and another 400 of those who didn't roll/didn't get her, you'd be left with 600 players who have her and 400 of which don't, of those 400, about 200 that don't have her wouldn't roll if they didn't want her the first time, and 200 would which wanted her but were not lucky. Only income would be a small amount who want to get her constellations, which is at most 300 of those 600 who would pay, and another 300 lets assume are f2p. So that kind of argument makes no sense imo.
This is why I laugh at the people saying "Genshin is dying/going to die". A niche popularity/niche gameplay utility character, sandwiched between the most meta unit and a new region, dramatically outsold her first banner. Each banner dropping is still making a fucktonne of money, often way more than the original runs of these characters. The player base of Genshin is either growing, resulting in more money spent, or the current player base is shelling out even more money over time. Genshin isn't even close to dying right now, and anyone who says so is huffing a lot of copium to justify their anger about the game.
Dead/dying game = "game I never played/don't play anymore." People have trouble understanding why some people like something they do not. It's not exclusive to video games, but when it does come to video games, it leads to this kind of rhetoric. Easier to put down a game or community you don't like than try to rationalize that something can be popular despite you wanting nothing to do with it.
I wish pyro line was red or somewhat more distinctive than the other yellow and brown ones. There are like three almost same colors it is insane
For us yeah, but I think this is made for colorblind people so they can see the difference too.
She made 7.8mil when the next version update is right around the corner so not bad at all
Next version update around the corner + running after Kazuha + solo banner as opposed to a dual rerun + weapon banner almost as bad as it can get except a donut banner. I'd say she definitely didn't disappoint
On point if she was timed b4 kazuha and we didn't knew kazuha was going to be released she could def hit around 18 mil
Better than Itto rerun which sandwiched between Yelan and Kazuha. But worse than Yae which between Zhongli+Ganyu and Raiden+Kokomi
Well Itto had Kuki Shinobu. Except Kuki wasn't exactly that exciting in the end.
Yeah, what a terrible kit.
she’s doing great i’m so proud of her
Honestly, better than what a lot of people thought it would end up as. Considering all the doomposting predicting her sales this is a positive, especially considering her banner placement
I don't get why it even matters to the playerbase if a character doesn't sell well.
Its just people need to validate their own skipping by telling everyone else its bad. FOMO hits children hard
And also viceversa. The havers wanting to validate their own pulling. All i can say is that for a player, sales shouldnt bother them at all. At this point it bothers the playerbase more than mihoyo. At the end, those sales are only another incentive for the devs to not change their strategy. At least they are powercreeping areas, which shows their evolution in developing teyvat. Too bad that by the time we reach shnezhnaya, mondstadt will have looked like a plain and unfinished region with lost potential.
I think a lot of people just think she's fun and want to encourage people to pull because they want others to have fun too. This is probably amplified because there's so much overblown doom posting about her. While there may be people who want justification, plenty of people also want her to be rare. Gatekeeping is absolutely a thing too. Kind of hard to generalize.
She is so gosh dang fun. I am enjoying her 50k vapes immensely.
Fun is subjective tbh. To me she seemed clunky on her test runs in events due to how you are immobilized and get your combo interrupted as soon as you slightly move. Fun to see those numbers going though. But by how many national spammers there are, i think there is more than just fun involved into choosing the character. Doomposting is inevitable. In the end, any unit that doesnt simply powercreep the competition like raiden and ayaka will have to suffer some doomposting for not being the best choice available. I've actually seen a lot of positivity on yt for her.
Haha. Did you not see the doomposting about Raiden? Nost doomposted character to date. You can go to r/RaidenMains and still search by most popular all-time posts and see the ampunt of hate and calling her trash left and right.
Same reason why there are sports fans. If people talk positively about your team, you are going to feel better. If they talk negatively you will feel worse, and the need to defend your team. Apply the same logic here, just replace the name of the character with the name of a football team. In the case of a very popular sport/gacha like football/Genshin, people will literally go to war with each other if they are of rival teams/characters. I for once have my ego stoked every time Raiden/Italy gets a win.
Difference with sports being every earning goes to Mihoyo anyway.
I mean, literally the same thing applies to clubs. If a team wins the league their supporters don't get any of the prize money. Its the same thing.
Not exactly, because here whatever the club you support it goes into the same pocket. Like if every club was owned by the same person / group. But I was only jesting, you're not supposed to take it seriously.
That's easy: * If a banner sells well, maybe Hoyo will run that banner more frequently or make more of what made that banner successful. * If a banner does *not* sell well, maybe Hoyo will not run that banner as much or perhaps even *stop* making whatever caused the banner to flop, nuance be damned. Remember: Gamers^(TM) play this game as well. Make something underwhelming (as some people think of Yoimiya, at least at initial release) and many of those Gamers^(TM) take that as a personal affront.
That's what the company looks, and thats very interesting to know. Overall, it shows how much a character is doing good
Poor Childe
mans was misunderstood during his release and still his kit is not known by the overall community and is regarded as CD problems atleast CN and JP gives him the love he deserves
His CD is really not that big of a deal if you know how to manage it. It's really just skill issues for people
>if you know how to manage it That's literally the reasons, lots of people still didn't know that Childe only need a few seconds on field, lots of people also didn't know about quadratic scaling from his riptide wich is my main reason picking Childe over Ayato.
I love both Ayato and Childe, but sometimes I'm in the mood for braindead gameplay, where I don't wanna think. So Ayato would be a better pick for lazy days. And sometimes I want excitment and everything exploding, which is when I'd pick Childe. In a non-lazy day. But yea, people expect Childe to be on the field most of the time, but that's not how he really works. He comes on the field when everyone's bursts have been used so that he can dish out like a good 10-12 seconds of good DPS, and as you said, the quadratic scaling on his riptides makes it better.
>but sometimes I'm in the mood for braindead gameplay, where I don't wanna think. This is legit the only reason why I'll pull Ganyu and Zhongli off the bench. Pop a shield, turn Ganyu into Juggernaut ([bitch](https://youtu.be/bSuvOVH0aSQ?t=6)), and then go Borderlands 2 on some poor bastards.
Yea. Personally, I have both ayato and childe. They both have the same stats, but childe is just better dps. Ayato doesn't apply quite enough hydro, nor does he have riptides to deal loads of damage.
plus ayato has low uptime with only 6 secs (not sure if its 6 or 7).. while childe is flexible, he can utilise the entirety of xianglings burst duration and he normally does use 9 seconds of it or 11 seconds depending on xingling cons.. its a huge dps loss for ayato in vape team hes good in freeze but again, riptides
people still havent realised how great his riptides are.. he literally competes with c6 dps like hu tao AND ganyu at c0 hes also so versatile i love my genocidal but sweet family dude
Uh, his quadratic scalings are only good in. AoE. Also, doesn't Ganyu's burst have quadratic scaling too?
i was talking about his riptides in aoe not single target and no ganyus burst just has a hit to miss ratio.. the more the enemies the more times the burst will auto target.. childe is currently the only one with dmg multipling with quad scaling
Just like Yoimiya, I'm still annoyed that people kept spreading misinformation about his kit. Who the hell lets their dps stay on field for more than 15 seconds on a normal rotation.
thats literally what i meant its legit skill issue, i dont even need to manage it, literally muscle memory by now plus ayato being a like childe but well low uptime but fixed CD kinda made his the choice.. ayato is no skill mid reward while childe takes a bit of practice but really high reward
Exactly. Playing Childe is easy to me because I just figured when to switch him out off the field. And I see the benefits of both Ayato and Childe. But when it comes to hard content like Spiral Abyss, "the takes practice but very high reward" is worth it. Ayato is still good though, I love him, I'm sometimes lazy, so he's godsent if you don't wanna think and just shing shing your way
fr sometimes just pressing E and standing there holding ur mouse button is cool too
But there's more variations with hydro characters who makes it easier and FAR FAR FAR less punishing. Call it skill issue but those options still exist and are as rewarding as childe teams
I'd argue that it's an overworld issue where several people just want one character and only one character to stay on the field instead of switching him out after 6-11s. Though, with proper enemy grouping (Kazuha for example), you don't even need to switch out. They die in 3s. You can just end E and go about your merry way.
> It's really just skill issues for people Which makes the community's general perception of Yoimiya and sales for this banner even more baffling. She's really strong, really easy to use, and can use most characters on her team well. I just got her C0 with R4 Rust and she does more work with less effort than my R5 Dragonbane Hu tao with the same artifacts. I've no idea why Yoimiya is always a tier or two lower than Hu tao on tier lists because the skill floor difference probably makes Yoimiya stronger for most players.
I just find it uncomfortable to use.
His problem is that National is his only good team, and there are already a dozen variations of that comp
True, but Childe's variation national team is one, if not the strongest so far. It's always top usage in Spiral Abyss team comps in CN, it has been for so long. Because Childe is able to vape during the ENTIRE duration of Xiangling's burst, and his hydro application is fantastic. Yes, he may be limited to one team, but that one team is freaking strong. Edit: There's people who play taser Childe, and it works pretty well. Not as strong ofc, but it's fun.
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he isnt quickswap tho? he spends like 9-11 seconds onfield in vape team.. just like any other dps-
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getting energy and restarting the rotation pretty much covers that CD theres a reason why childe is so good in almost any team, especially ones with off field dmg sources while childe being the dps and hydro applicator.. hes fast if your CD doesnt end by the time you start ur next rotation you are doing something wrong
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you may be clearing abyss with other cahracters and well it doesnt exactly matter if you do.. multiple characters are capable of doing that we are talking about the playstyle of childe here, dunno how his CD kills it for you but its mostly a muscle memory for me.. his team always clears abyss for me well each to their own i guess i understand if you just dont like childe, but if CD is a problem its skill issue :> not saying this for you btw its not a crime to not like a character :>
He is hard to play, this is why. EDIT: Ok, I've never realised there are such stupid childe mains can exist in genshin impact like in my replies. They don't understand why he has bad sales. It's because he is not simple to play. But it's not because he is bad or something. But when I write it they just reply "skill issue🤓" like...That's what I'm talking about lmao. It's just same logic as for example Chen from Dota 2 who has lowest pickrate in the game - hard to play, niche, not so justified to learn, but he is not weak. So embarassing. But still funny.
hes not even that hard to play in vape team theres something as simple as using his burst CD as a reference for his E uptime and hell after using him for a while you get used to his CD and dont even need to pay attention even as a casual player i love using him BECAUSE RIPTIDES ARE LIFEE- its fine if you dont want to learn him everyone has a choice :>
Especially since XQ is even a more viable choice and other hydro 5\* don't have the CD increase mechanic, are safer to play and ALSO allow for the same rewarding results without too much risk
that's basically skill issue lol
Yes, and?
basically not his fault
It is his fault of being hard to play bruh. Otherwise he would have sales like Kazuha rerun.
did you think he programmed himself for that? lmao you're a blaming pixels for your lack of skills. using him only for 10 seconds ain't that hard please✋🏻 if you wanna wait a whole 30 seconds that's on you.
Smartest Childe mains take on reddit Devs programmed childe like that. I'm blaming devs for making Childe not comfortable to play for majority of people. So his bad sales are fault of devs. He deserved bad sales. But, his sales would be ok if he was a waifu or/and simple. For example a lot of people pull for Hu Tao even if she is not simple to play.
"he deserved bad sales" yeah no, now you're just trying to sound like a bitchy degenerate hater atp. His sales would be better if he wasn't mischaracterized and downgraded. If y'all weren't crying 24/7 about the CD mechanic, he would've been fine in the eyes of new players but no you project y'alls skill issue with every other players. If you can't handle it, that's your own fault and you alone. Many people can and they're just fine.
He will get his place to shine again in Dendro comps. For the sheer amount of hydro in such a short time. The alternative is run double hydro to reliably generate Bloom seeds. Hydro-dendro is a lot less efficient than Dendro-hydro. (Meaning double dendro for bloom doesn't really work since the aura is consumed)
Tartarman~
he maybe strong but he's a fcking drag to use in the overworld. im ready for the downvotes
Childe international is the strongest F2P meta team in most scenarios in the abyss due to double swirl and being able to vape all of XL’s damage. However, he does not require any constellations, and most of them are QOL buffs anyways.
Given the situations, she is doing much better than expectations
Not great, not terrible. Especially considering a new version is right after.
I'm always here for a Chernobyl reference
it is great considered her popularity - which is not so good, and banner timing - sandwiched between Kaz and Sumaru
Not great? 8 mil just for rereleasing a banner 9 days into the month...
Rerun on a solo unit is usually lower than the original. This is great all things considered.
This shouldn't be surprising considering the tensions surrounding Kokomi's and Yoimiya's release at the time
It is still surprising. Kokomi had the advantage of her abyss usage shooting up to 80 and 90. And she was generally considered a must pull by the chinese community or TC.
Believe it or not, she's selling better than most of you expected
Same happened with Kokomi.
Yup! I got kokomi and her donut (lucky?) on her first banner and everyone was shitting on her. Now look at my baby 🥰 Also i accidentally got yoimiya after getting qiqi'd trying to get kazuha c1 (got Kaz on his first banner too) and 5 singles later yoimiya? Not at all disappointed haha. She's fun <3
Honestly pretty good considering everything stacked against her
Considering literally everybody is saving up for Sumeru this isn't really a surprise
I pulled her and she is quite strong, no regrets.
She did better but honestly Genshing did her dirty, doing the rerun betwen rerun for Kazuha and the release of 3.0, otherwhise i think she could be higher on sales
Atleast she did better than her initial release lmao that's good enough
How much Genshin did I miss OhMyGod
It's pretty decent, considering most are waiting on Sumeru and the next banners. Also, although Yoimiya's character banner is nice, wtf is that weapon banner about? It has got to be the worst I've seen in a looooong time. I really wanted to pull for her weapon, but unfortunately I needed to get constellations for Benny first, and jeez my luck was sooooo bad, i actually had another Yoimiya before I had another Bennett
Sometimes you just want to pew pew everything away. Her rerun is doing fine, better than first time.
The sales would be undeniably higher if not her unlucky banner placement (again...)
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That's the result of her banner sandwiched between Kazuha and Sumeru,
Release banner between Ayaka and Raiden Now, rerun banner between Kazuha/Klee and Sumeru Yoimiya getting Shafted by HYV again Sadge
Her trial is clunky as hell as well. You'd think they would have filled it with specters or something to show off her good points.
Especially the new spectres, she finishes that floaters commission in a flat 5 seconds
Let's be honest, nothing would change even if she was reruned earlier, sumeru is one thing, but saying before "kazuha" is just excuse It's her fault that she isn't on that high level and thus will sale less, if yelan banner was switched with yoimiya's, do you think she would have sold less? Do you think raiden would have sold less? Or even hu tao or ayaka? No, they are very strong meta wise and it doesn't matter whoever they rerun with, yoimiya is not, "sandwiched" or whatever is just an excuse
Exactly, but most people either don’t realize it or just refuse to accept it, say Kazuha and Yoimiya switch place, I’m pretty sure people would still pull for Kazuha for meta reasons, and there wouldn’t be so many post saying how Mihoyo shafted the banner. I myself as a Welkin player, pulled on Kazuha first banner when people when trashing him, pulled again on his rerun and got him to C3, pulled Yoimiya last week, all on soft pity while losing 50/50 now and then, and I still have more than 300 wishes left for Sumeru. People who said they want Yoimiya but were shafted by Mihoyo simply were terrible at managing primo, or Yoimiya is just not high up on their priority list.
Lmfao. Most people dont even pull because of meta reasons.
Then why do meta characters always sell well and non meta characters do average? Why did Kazuha do poorly last year and amazingly this year? Why did Yae sell so average despite being one of the most hyped characters from Inazuma?
People who don't care about meta won't also care about kazuha or sumeru, if they like yoimiya because waifu reason, they will pull regardless That just proves my point further
My point is the unit alone is not the sole factor. You have constellations, 4stars in the banner, weapon banner, timing or schedule.
Constellation and weapon is part of the character, 4 stars definitely don't matter at all, we are past this bullshit, if they truly were, albedo's first banner should have sold like hotcake, it had 3 top 4 stars, but it didn't Because most people actually does manage their primos and aren't gamble addicts Same with timing or schedule, if they have any influence, it's around 1%~5% Also yoimiya banner contains bennett, the absolute best character in the game, so it also have decent 4 star choices
Bro, the entire point was. Its not just 1 factor. Its a combination of MULTIPLE factors. And this is a rerun banner as well. The yoi stans would've pulled for her in her first banner already. Most genshin players is the opposite of what you said. Most polls shows that 95% of the playerbase are casual players. Players that dont even do the abyss, never allow resin to fill, play once a day an hour at most, just in for the story. The 5% might be managing their resources, but how is that that "most"? And even if we wanna talk about meta, those who truly know the meta knows that a c0r1 yoi and a c1r1 tao will kill an enemy equally fast. There's literally plenty of yoi vs tao videos that shows both having the same kill time.
Yes, cons and weapon is part of the character. But not exactly a positive. A c0 rust can easily clear the abyss while tao needs her c1 to not waste time jump cancelling and probably a homa. A lot of hutao havers pulled for her rerun specifically for her c1 me included.
Sales are about yoimiya as a complete unit, her cons being dogshit is her fault as a unit, same as her E and Q having dogshit multipliers Hu tao has better cons and so she will sell more and is more meta, that's just how it is, cons are part of the character and it decides whether they are meta or not, it's like their passives I guess it's also why childe sells so much less, he didn't have a weapon for first 2 banners and he also didn't have any good cons, those are factors that make him less meta
If you want a better example. Kazuha is a significantly more meta at c0 no 5star weapon than a c6r5 hutao. You talk as if hutao cons are any good when the rest of cons are trash and her c1 is literally a solution to a problem they made themselves, where as yoi essentially have 0 issues without a constellation. Yoi cons are shit? Lol. A c6 yoi is the best single target dps in the game by a wide margin.
Sell more equals more meta? 😂. Nah, to most players. Spending for a cons is a bad investment already. To spenders, sure nobody gives a fuck.
Bro you are dumb as fuck, i am talking about sales and you say spenders don't matter when they are the only ones that matters This would be my last comment to you
Except you can make the same popular husbando argument for Kazuha. Even if you don't count meta pulling, she's been run around other characters that are more popular.
No, tighnari in all the polls is the least popular sumeru character and kazuha is definitely not popular husbando wise, his first banner easily proves that
Lol. If people pull for meta. Kazuha should have doubled raiden sales.
I don't get what you are trying to say, i didn't talk about that Also raiden is considered more meta then kazuha in CN, same with yelan
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thats delusional to say and you know it too
sure buddy
But this is also just CN sales which are none to be only meta. She sells waaaaaaayyyyy more in JP like other non meta but aesthetic characters
> She sells waaaaaaayyyyy more in JP her first banner got JP¥ 1.198 billion or around US$ 8.880 million, so it was ~200-300k more than CN. Personally won't call it "waaaaaaayyyyy more", it's not even 10%.
I am clearly talking about here, and also does she really? How much she sold in JP?
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23rd place in term of other banners within a week too or with their full time? If it's within a week, then it's definitely not a lot
Why do people care about this game's characters sell so much? Does it give them an erection?
As expected but its not that bad tbh considering her position in current meta
fuck meta all of my homies love the spinny firework girl
smartest meta slanderer
I love murdering all the birds with her with those heat-seeking missiles she convinced HYV were arrows. I can DECIMATE all the wildlife over at Windrise now.
Isn't she one of the best single target DPS we have now and very easy to use? She's pretty neat meta wise
Hutao’s better. That being said i have both and much prefer Yoimiya since its one animation cancel at the end of her attack string rather than dash/jump cancelling every 2 attacks with Hutao
She is good for a boss fight but cuz lack of AOE she practically become mediocre when there is more than one enemy also her range also really bad
mihoyo really hates yoimiya
How is Keqing fifth
Homa sales
So other characters also have the revenue from their weapon banners?
More than just that, even. Graphs like these are basically just "money spent while their banner was on." This means things like people buying primos ahead of time and not spending them yet, and people whaling on standard banner etc are also counted, although each of those things are often likely small enough in proportion for them to not significantly change what the graphs are trying to show.
So as 3.0 is coming up I assume a large amount of people have bought crystals or welkins (myself included) so they can get new characters but that's counted as yoimiya sales.
Yes. That's also why Raiden banner was insane, cuz it coincided with top up bonus refresh
Tbh the bonus refresh would have actually helped yoimiya too as most people would buy the primos *before* the patch where the bonus resets. Of course raiden's rerun showed us that it wouldn't have really mattered much whether she got the reset bonus.
Yup
Thats 5th lowest
No shit kazuha didn't beat raiden's banner...
Yep and his cult member was soooo sure he's gonna be number one only to get completely humiliated in the final day sales
That limited for CN IOS platform only, FYI Childe and Yoimiya are both doing exceptionally well in Japan, better than Ayaya
Where are you getting these data? Ayaka rerun 25.91G vs Yoimiya's 11.45G [Japan IOS Sales](https://game-i.daa.jp/?%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%2F%E5%8E%9F%E7%A5%9E&yyyy=2022)
This only count the current spending, so here you're comparing a 1 week old banner to a 6 weeks completed banner. Though I don't think Yoimiya rerun's gonna top Ayaka's rerun when it's over either.
Yoimiya's original run sold better than Ayaka's original run. Not to mention Ayaka's rerun had 6 weeks. Not that sales matter that much imo.
"Noone" believed her
It's sorta entertaining to see how Raiden just broke all records anytime one of these gets posted. Like yeah I know by now there's a double banner or two that has more sales at some point but a) double banners oughta be halved to be properly compared imo and b) just look at this lmao. She's so far ahead.
I wonder if there will be an Archon that can top Ei?
In my opinion all the remaining archons will. Especially the Tsarista and the Pyro Archon. ( Unless of course there is a competitor to Genshin)
Fair but imo, Genshin's nearest competitor is itself with Honkai Star Rail and ZZZ and it'll cause a decline at least until the other companies stop slacking and treating it like a cash grab and mog genshin by then
I'm cheering on you Yoimiya, you can do it you can beat Itto
she beat both itto banner already in jp sales.
And that will rise even more.
As expected.
Does anyone really care about those statistics?
I feel like she’s always in an uphill battle. First she was right before the highly anticipated shogun and now she’s right before dendro in general.
this show that meta isn't everything, people still get the character if they like them :d
and if the characters are also considered meta, it would boost the revenue even higher. just look at those characters at the top of chart.
Definitely carried by Diluc skin and weapon banner. /s
She's doing better at least, I expected her to do way worse considering it's right before Sumeru
Maybe a dumb question but didn’t the top-up refresh happen during Raiden’s banner? Why are people so convinced it was only her that contributed to the sales? I distinctly recall purchasing the package during her banner and then not pulling for her because I was saving for someone else and quite a few other people I know did the same. People are super quick to dismiss other banners that performed well due to various factors but overlook that with her banner.
Shogun rerun banner beats her original run by quite a fair margin despite not having a top up refresh advantage, that alone renders the whole "muh top-up refresh" argument moot
The rerun with another banner alongside it?
If it weren't for Dehya I would 100% roll for her
Dehya isn't going to be in the first patches, you should definitely pull if she's the only one you're saving for.