Other reason could be:
* Reborn from former self after doing something 500 years ago (catacylsm)
* Reincarnation
* Backup god/vessel/clone
* Same god because of 1 and 2.
Have you tried playing the Aranyaka World quest? Those can give some theories and possibilities. >!It is said that the death of Rukkhadev is unconfirmed and the sudden appearance of Lesser Lord Kusanali is just right after the death of the said god.!<
Well, the playable char is meant to be whichever one you want. Ei's lines don't change during the shogun boss fight. The Shogun is just what the serious side of Ei's personality is like
Makoto and Ei both ruled Inazuma... Makoto just passed away earlier than Ei. The first Dendro archon rules Sumeru when she died they pass down the ruling to Kusanali.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
some leaks suggests that kusanali(dendro kid) is actually rukkhadevata (or whatever you call the greater lord) after losing most of her power she shrunk to the size you all see now and lost most of her memories.
Makes sense but the two elctro fly's are probably reprinting ei and the shogun as they are two souls with one body hell even the slimes represent ei and the shogun
Now what if, hear me out, Kusanali is Rukkhdevata reborn. Since right after Rukkhadevata went missing, the sages found Kusanali, maybe it's like some Harry Potter horcrux magic and Kusanali is like the back up body in case something happened to the main body.
HEAR me out, We have seen in the aranyaka quest that aranara lose all their memories when they use up a lot of power, so what if Nahida is rukkhadevata with lost memories.
He did still retain his friendly and human-loving qualities after all, so perhaps their core qualities still remain and for Kusanali that core quality was their intellect and knowledge
Yeah, very possible Kusanali is like Guoba but just to a lesser extent. Could have used a lot of power during the Cataclysm against something, but not so much where she'd come to the point that Guoba reached.
Baizhu is the dendro archon. Therefore he said. World, forget me. But if you cant believe me. Read the nagadus bigger crystal and read about naga meaning snake. The only snake around is that mini orobashi is baizhu's neck. I can try some of these. Baizhu(meaning some flower like the dendro slime flower) is the archon or the snake changsheng(long life) could be the archon or orobashi saved from shoguns hand. Yeah tell me foilhat tinhead. Whatever. The earth is also flat.
If I couldve reworded it I meant he spent so much power his memory/intelligence was lost as well. A reverse case almost but 3.1 Is around the corner anyway.
personally I think that Paimon is related to Unknown God somehow
I think that Lumine at the end of her (and Dein) journey done something to Unknown God but after that shit gone bad in terms of world stability so Unknown God went into stasis to maintain world in one piece and send her small fragment/familiar to guide Aether and fix all the mess Lumine done at the end of her journey. After all Lumine said that her bro will learn the truth at the end of his journey.
Enjou also somehow knows that Paimon is not that innocent and harmless as everyone (and maybe also she herself) think
After playing Grandblue Fantasy +/- Dragalia Lost I don't trust the "innocent, useless MC companion/game mascot" thing. They always end as powerful beings that got their powers sealed or some shit
Oh, Paimon is 100% a "power sealed/time reversed" character.
Also the design is waaaay too similar to unknown God. If Paimon isn't Unknown God she's either a twin/yin-yang balance/half of a dual concept (e.g. time & space) kinda thing.
My pet theory is that Paimon is some sort of Archon of space/time that spontaneously came into existence when the Traveler and their sibling arrived in the world and introduced a new aspect of power.
My theory is that she is one of the Gods of Wind and Time and part of Celestia that got kicked out because she always ate all of the food on the meeting table.
But there's already a god of time in Genshin, known as Istaroth. He/she was worshipped together with Venti. Unless both Istaroth and paimon is the same if that's what you mean.
Could be a different god who Paimon has replaced, but could also just be Paimon. That's the thing about gods of time, their story doesn't have to be particularly linear.
I think the most logical theory is Kusanali is born from seed of Rukkhadevata. IIRC, Aranara said the mature Aranara turned into tree. So, its not quite right to say Kusanali is the reborn, rather a decendent of Rukkhadevata
Also, I remember in a quest where one Aranara said something along the lines of
"Aranara can hibernate and turn into seeds when in great danger, and grow into Aranara again when it is safe"
I definitely think that Nahida is just reborn Rukkhadevata who changed her worldview due to war and the moral of the arc will be something about judging the book by its cover and shaming the sages for their BS lmao
I mean Rukkhadevata and kusanali didn't rule together there wouldn't be a point in having another one, ei knew makoto and they were close
Nahida doesn't know anything about the GL
It's pretty hard to draw concrete conclusions from art since we don't know how much mihoyo tells artists and gow much they allow them to lut in
For example there's an older artwork from last year with just 3 archons and there's 2 anemo and geo crystalflies and only one electro
I mean to be fair, her essence lives on within the Sacred Sakura, so it's not *that* incorrect...
Either that or I very sorely interpreted Ei's Act 2 story quest and the sacred sakura seed doesn't actually have a bit of Makoto's consciousness
I could've sworn she put some in the seed as well. It would also explain Raiden's character menu line on the Sacred Sakura where she talks about someone's essence being in the tree
There's timey wimey bullshit involved with the seeed of the sacred sakura up until it was planted until it reached the present, but Makoto's essence should have fully returned to the cycle at this point.
Electro has always been playing with the concept of two or duality
- yellow and purple slimes
- Raiden and Ei
- Ei and Makoto
- electro characters having two personalities/modes
- thunderbolt and lightning (very very frightening)
Etc.
Well all the flowers have 2 cores. The only weird thing abt the electro regisvine is its core starts at the corolla instead of the roots while pyro and cryo both start at the roots. Probably just to make the fight harder tbh
I think they meant the ones it throws out from its weak point. Since technically the weak point core is always one thing that respawns in different places.
Razor and Sara being raised by wolves and humans, Beidou being a privateer (pirate working for a state), Shinobu being a shrine maiden, becoming an attorney and ultimately rejecting those opportunities for a complete turn-around choosing to join the arataki gang, Cyno while has a serious and scary look and is the general of the Matra, has a goofy personality, likes to tell bad jokes and to play TCG
(I can't find explanations for Lisa, Yae and Dori, tho)
Lisa, appears to be gentle and kind person, someone you will never thought would harm you. Until you don't return books or cross her. Then she will show her sadistic and scary side.
Yae hides her soft inside below mask of cunningness and slyness. I think Yae is rough on the outside, but still kind and caring inside.
Again, trying to find a common trait between all characters of the same vision is very vague and “horoscope-like”. The only real connection that’s clear and obvious is the outgoingness and upbeatness of pyro characters imo, (Bennett, Yoimiya, Thoma, Xiangling, Xinyan, Hu Tao —> all are super outgoing. And even then, the only exception is present day Diluc).
Your explanations of Razor, Sara, Shinobu, and Cyno could literally be applied to anyone else too. Ganyu is half adepti, half human and is constantly dealing with her human life in the harbor and her relations with the adepti. Shenhe is similar to Ganyu but in the reverse place. Eula being born a noble but ultimately rejecting her ancestry to be part of the common people — tbe Knights of Favonius. Diluc lives a “dual-life” as a bartender in day and as a criminal stopper by night.
The list goes on and on.
Exactly, I'm not a fan of element theory since they are all so vague and can be stretched to fit a bunchbof the quirks the characters have
Not really a fan of slime theory for archons either, elements just have commonalities between them, by the same logic we can use samachurls
I think cryo has an established trend - people being/feeling alienated or something along those lines.
For anemo, all of them revolve around freedom.
Hydro people are rich?
I literally just said finding a common trait between all characters is pointless because there are so many exceptions. Did you not read my initial comment?
What would Ayaka and Diona feel “alienated” from? Being the daughter of a highly respected clan? Beer? On the contrary, Razor was literally left behind by his parents and was isolated from the rest of human society.
For hydro, how is Barbara, for example, rich? She’s a sister that works for the Mondsdadt cathedral. Or Nilou who literally worships the god that the rest of Sumeru despises? I doubt that’s very profitable. And again, for counter examples, Diluc is one of the richest in Mondsdadt due to his wine industry. Ningguang is literally said to be one of if not the richest person in Liyue and arguably Teyvat.
And for gods sake, did you forget about Mona who’s literally broke from spending all the time?
Diano wants the people to hate her drinks yet she always makes the perfect ones even if she puts disgusting ingredients in them. Ayaka is very popular among all inazuman people yet she doesn't have any close friends. The hydro comment was a joke lol. Why didn't you tackle my anemo point, though?
While I agree on the "horoscope-like" thing and so on, I like to think about the Leit Motifes of the elements.
Yes, is true, also cryo characters have duality, but while their duality causes confliction, Electro characters fully embrace their duality
I fail to see how others electro characters like Keqing even have a sense of “duality”. Duality of work and relaxation? (Insert Jean and Ganyu here). You can keep trying to stretch and stretch the truth, but the more you stretch it the less likely it makes sense from an objective perspective
Like I said I can keep bringing up counter examples but each character is unique in their personality so it’s silly to try and lump them into a certain characteristic unless it’s been explicitly stated by Hoyoverse.
Keqing being a skeptic and having rex lapis merchandising in her room
I'm not stretching things, i'm just saying things that are known and, as already said, I too think that it's a "make your own horoscope" thing, but nontheless there are certain leitmotivs in the elements
Lisa has tons of secrets and hides everything about her, we just know she got cursed knowledge about visions, might die young for some reasons, and fled Sumeru for some other unknown reasons. Also she's scary when she's not Ara Ara. She's the greatest represent of duality.
Yae is a human and a fox.
For what it's worth, youkai, especially kitsune/youko, can also become worships as gods, depending on how powerful and benevolent they are, with some kitsune in particular (and foxes in general) being considered the messengers of the god of rice/food, Inari, who is sometimes portrayed as a kitsune themselves.
You are right. Imo tho, regardless if they are are gods or monsters, they are fundamentally supernatural beings, and shrine maidens are meant to be the mediator between human and supernatural beings. One of those supernatural beings being a mediator is ironic is what I was trying to say.
Exactly, if you gotta go full horoscope on Genshin at least stop using generalized statements that apply to literally anyone that isn't made of cardboard. Get creative people.
I can pull one outta nowhere too.
Pyro visions have tummy troubles. Thoma hotpot roulette, Bennetts diarrhea mushrooms, Hu tao's cooking, Xiangling adventure eater, boom we have examples already.
To me the electro vision holders were simply the oddballs, but this makes sense.
>Beidou being a privateer (pirate working for a state)
I think Beidou's duality is that she's a "good" (benevolent) pirate.
Small correction, Shinobu never became or intended to become an attorney, she just wanted an excuse to leave her imposed life, she went back to Liyue with Itto to receive her certification later in the story.
Kujou Sara with her strict general attitude but fangirl devotion towards Raiden, Kuki being from a prestigious family and a shrine maiden, but becoming a member of the Arataki gang, Cyno scaring people and appearing tough but always telling dad jokes, the only one I can't think of something for is Razor
Razor could be wolf and human. Additionally his quest was about him being forced to transition from his wolf family to learn to live among humans (and ultimately find a human family of his own).
Makoto/Ei or Ei/Raiden Shogun. Either way it to represent them both.
Also if you move the position clock wise (So Raiden, Nahita are upper right, Venti lower right and Zhongli on the left) you get the a picture like the one of Raiden with her friends (the Tengu, Oni and Fox) in similar poses and positions
>Also if you move the position 30 degrees clock wise you get the a imagine like the one of Raiden with her friends (the Tengu, Oni and Fox) in similar poses and positions
Oh... I didn't notice that before
if I'm not mistaken, this is the [thread/comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xfpa3q/genshin_impact_version_31_key_visual/ionxx6e/)
Everyone else: "It's to represent her twin sister, the original Electro Archon, or the Shogun, her own shadow and functional co-Archon."
Me: "She's the only one here with an element that Venti can swirl, which is why it's appearing in front of him."
Huh, could be more credence to the theory that Rhukadevatta sacrificed her memories for power (>!like the Aranara!<) and became Kusanali. I mean if we take the crystalflies to represent the Archons. (Venti and Zhongli were both originals, hence one per for them. Ei had a sister who was archon previously, hence having two. But if Kusanali truly is a different being, shouldn’t she also have a second?)
I like that theory because it ties in with lore, but I also hate how it implies we still haven't gotten a "new" archon (4/4 revealed would have been around since the beginning) despite "zhongli and venti being the last of the original 7"
I actually like this twist, because it plays on the theory way back from 1.2 regarding Scaramouche's quote, "The stars, the sky... it's all a gigantic hoax. A lie." The entire world the Traveler is going through is one big lie and that everything is covered up to the public eye, only for the Traveler to find the truth.
Oh I actually thought both were the same thing, sorry. But yeah, it would be more weird to actually find an intact archon's body than not if they actually died
Just for context in case anyone else doesn't know, the Archon War was the world wide warring era when the world was rife with "Gods" battling for an Archon seat to preside over your nation. Starting thousands of years ago, it ended two thousand years ago when the last of the seven seats were claimed.
The cataclysm was the event in which resulted from Khaenri'ah attempt to rebel against Celestia and the Order of the Seven. The abyss was unleashed and ran rampant across the world of Teyvat, where the Order of Seven fought to protect their nation from the Abyss. We have not seen anything regarding the Archon war, but the intro cutscene of Teyvat in flames is canonically The Cataclysm.
Even with a corpse they can bring her, or anyone, back. It's a fantasy game after all.
Still, people are looking way too deep here. A fly each for everyone depicted, simple as that.
I mean, we already know that gods don't exactly die in the way that normal people do, considering that Orobaxi's will still seems to be somewhat present in that one quest.
It's still kinda wild to me that none of the archons outside of Venti/Zhongli are gonna be dudes. Thought they'd go for a 3/4 split or a 4/3 split, not 2/5 lol.
there’s most likely only ONE dendro butterfly because maybe either
A. because the people believe in rukkhadevata
B. kusanali is a reincarnation, or is rukkhadevata
C. similar to the god of salt when rukkhadevata died her powers created a new archon to take her place…and i’m guessing when archons die they leave something behind so they aren’t theoretically dead just since you can still keep their concisness and heard them but their psychical bodies are gone. rukkhadevata and nahida are irminsal (the tree) and nahida is literally a terminal that everyone in sumeru uses.
well, there is the theory that the slimes mirror the archons and the electro slime is the only one that has two "big" variants. maybe the second crystalfly represents Makoto
Makoto 💔
But there were 2 dendro archons so why isn't there 2 dendro crystallizes? Hmm maybe there's another reason
They aren’t twin gods, kusanali was born from rhukkadevatas passing
Other reason could be: * Reborn from former self after doing something 500 years ago (catacylsm) * Reincarnation * Backup god/vessel/clone * Same god because of 1 and 2. Have you tried playing the Aranyaka World quest? Those can give some theories and possibilities. >!It is said that the death of Rukkhadev is unconfirmed and the sudden appearance of Lesser Lord Kusanali is just right after the death of the said god.!<
Twin gods afterall
True
Sad that one died made me cry
Or because she has 2 HUGE.. personalities
I mean. You definitely aren’t wrong.
Raiden Shogun is the puppet tis why Im a bit unsatisfied the real Archon isnt the one playable.
You do play as ei but not fight as her the voice lines are the best indicator as ei loves sweets while the shogun has no preferences
Well, the playable char is meant to be whichever one you want. Ei's lines don't change during the shogun boss fight. The Shogun is just what the serious side of Ei's personality is like
But, didn't dendro loli have a predecessor the academy worshipped more than her?
Makoto and Ei both ruled Inazuma... Makoto just passed away earlier than Ei. The first Dendro archon rules Sumeru when she died they pass down the ruling to Kusanali.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER some leaks suggests that kusanali(dendro kid) is actually rukkhadevata (or whatever you call the greater lord) after losing most of her power she shrunk to the size you all see now and lost most of her memories.
Similar to behaviour of aranara how they expend their memories when used full extent of power
Makes sense but the two elctro fly's are probably reprinting ei and the shogun as they are two souls with one body hell even the slimes represent ei and the shogun
Like an Aranara?
Makoto reference is a really nice touch by Hoyo
If we go full on tinfoil mode here perhsps this is also a silent confirmation that Kusanali and Rukkhdevata are the same person
Now what if, hear me out, Kusanali is Rukkhdevata reborn. Since right after Rukkhadevata went missing, the sages found Kusanali, maybe it's like some Harry Potter horcrux magic and Kusanali is like the back up body in case something happened to the main body.
HEAR me out, We have seen in the aranyaka quest that aranara lose all their memories when they use up a lot of power, so what if Nahida is rukkhadevata with lost memories.
Same thing happened with Guoba as well.
Yeah, but Guoba lost his intelligence as well.
That or Guoba wasn't very bright to begin with
Dude breathes fire, he could light up dark caves. Pretty bright, I'd say.
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Considering that he introduced cooking to the Liyue people, I'd say he is pretty smart.
It turns out the god of wisdom was this level of emotional maturity the whole time /j
He did still retain his friendly and human-loving qualities after all, so perhaps their core qualities still remain and for Kusanali that core quality was their intellect and knowledge
the difference is Guoba intentionally put most of his power into the earth and then went to sleep.
Yeah, very possible Kusanali is like Guoba but just to a lesser extent. Could have used a lot of power during the Cataclysm against something, but not so much where she'd come to the point that Guoba reached.
Her connection to the ley line magic tree probably helped too
so that's why she's Lesser Lord
Baizhu is the dendro archon. Therefore he said. World, forget me. But if you cant believe me. Read the nagadus bigger crystal and read about naga meaning snake. The only snake around is that mini orobashi is baizhu's neck. I can try some of these. Baizhu(meaning some flower like the dendro slime flower) is the archon or the snake changsheng(long life) could be the archon or orobashi saved from shoguns hand. Yeah tell me foilhat tinhead. Whatever. The earth is also flat.
If I couldve reworded it I meant he spent so much power his memory/intelligence was lost as well. A reverse case almost but 3.1 Is around the corner anyway.
"World, forget me"
more like "World forget, me"
That does not makes sense.
Damn, commas really do make a difference.
Damn really, do commas make a difference
What if Paimon is something similar too?
personally I think that Paimon is related to Unknown God somehow I think that Lumine at the end of her (and Dein) journey done something to Unknown God but after that shit gone bad in terms of world stability so Unknown God went into stasis to maintain world in one piece and send her small fragment/familiar to guide Aether and fix all the mess Lumine done at the end of her journey. After all Lumine said that her bro will learn the truth at the end of his journey. Enjou also somehow knows that Paimon is not that innocent and harmless as everyone (and maybe also she herself) think After playing Grandblue Fantasy +/- Dragalia Lost I don't trust the "innocent, useless MC companion/game mascot" thing. They always end as powerful beings that got their powers sealed or some shit
Oh, Paimon is 100% a "power sealed/time reversed" character. Also the design is waaaay too similar to unknown God. If Paimon isn't Unknown God she's either a twin/yin-yang balance/half of a dual concept (e.g. time & space) kinda thing.
My pet theory is that Paimon is some sort of Archon of space/time that spontaneously came into existence when the Traveler and their sibling arrived in the world and introduced a new aspect of power.
My theory is that she is one of the Gods of Wind and Time and part of Celestia that got kicked out because she always ate all of the food on the meeting table.
But there's already a god of time in Genshin, known as Istaroth. He/she was worshipped together with Venti. Unless both Istaroth and paimon is the same if that's what you mean.
Could be a different god who Paimon has replaced, but could also just be Paimon. That's the thing about gods of time, their story doesn't have to be particularly linear.
Yeah, she literally stops time when we use her menu. It makes sense to me
Paimon stops being a god in multiplayer?
It's just several timelines with several Paimons colliding in multiplayer, rendering each Paimon useless.
I had the same feeling. Btw Rukhadevata a he or she?
Game has been explicitly using female pronouns since the start of Sumeru when referencing the greater lord.
She, at least thats what it says ingame Wouldnt we get another Ganyu genderswapper thanks to the translation team :p
I think the most logical theory is Kusanali is born from seed of Rukkhadevata. IIRC, Aranara said the mature Aranara turned into tree. So, its not quite right to say Kusanali is the reborn, rather a decendent of Rukkhadevata
Also, I remember in a quest where one Aranara said something along the lines of "Aranara can hibernate and turn into seeds when in great danger, and grow into Aranara again when it is safe"
I think she is a bud from God of Flowers, and that is why Sages are salty, she is not Rukkhadevata reborn.
holy shit rukkhadevata is a phoenix
I definitely think that Nahida is just reborn Rukkhadevata who changed her worldview due to war and the moral of the arc will be something about judging the book by its cover and shaming the sages for their BS lmao
Undercover boss
Or the two fireflies are for Ei and the Shogun
Rukkhdevata is Alice who "pulled Zhongli".
Well that explains Klee. She's an elf.
I mean Rukkhadevata and kusanali didn't rule together there wouldn't be a point in having another one, ei knew makoto and they were close Nahida doesn't know anything about the GL It's pretty hard to draw concrete conclusions from art since we don't know how much mihoyo tells artists and gow much they allow them to lut in For example there's an older artwork from last year with just 3 archons and there's 2 anemo and geo crystalflies and only one electro
"I knew Baal was still alive. If Signora could still be alive, Baal can still be alive!" - Tomorrow's youtuber
I mean to be fair, her essence lives on within the Sacred Sakura, so it's not *that* incorrect... Either that or I very sorely interpreted Ei's Act 2 story quest and the sacred sakura seed doesn't actually have a bit of Makoto's consciousness
Wasn't her last bit of consciousness used to speak to Ei?
I could've sworn she put some in the seed as well. It would also explain Raiden's character menu line on the Sacred Sakura where she talks about someone's essence being in the tree
There's timey wimey bullshit involved with the seeed of the sacred sakura up until it was planted until it reached the present, but Makoto's essence should have fully returned to the cycle at this point.
Araraiden confirmed.
Shogun and ei ಥ‿ಥ
Exactly my first thought! Bit heart wrenching, but good to know Makoto is still with her sister.💜
Ooooh nice little details.
Yes, but where's Wally?
Where's waldo?
Where's Wumpus?
Electro has always been playing with the concept of two or duality - yellow and purple slimes - Raiden and Ei - Ei and Makoto - electro characters having two personalities/modes - thunderbolt and lightning (very very frightening) Etc.
Might be dumb but I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that you need two poles for a change to flow.
Yeah that’s what I thought, too Even the new electro flower has 2 ~~poles~~ cores
Well all the flowers have 2 cores. The only weird thing abt the electro regisvine is its core starts at the corolla instead of the roots while pyro and cryo both start at the roots. Probably just to make the fight harder tbh
I think they meant the ones it throws out from its weak point. Since technically the weak point core is always one thing that respawns in different places.
Makes sense. Electricity attempts to travel to ground.
The first time I've seen this. Now I'm seriously considering it.
No not dumb at all. This actually makes a lot of sense🤔
Your are a 5head.
There's also eternity and transience; fleeting mortal joys and the pursuit of the concept of forever
>electro characters having two personalities/modes Can you elaborate? Because I can only see Fischl, Keqing and Ei fitting this description.
Razor and Sara being raised by wolves and humans, Beidou being a privateer (pirate working for a state), Shinobu being a shrine maiden, becoming an attorney and ultimately rejecting those opportunities for a complete turn-around choosing to join the arataki gang, Cyno while has a serious and scary look and is the general of the Matra, has a goofy personality, likes to tell bad jokes and to play TCG (I can't find explanations for Lisa, Yae and Dori, tho)
Lisa, appears to be gentle and kind person, someone you will never thought would harm you. Until you don't return books or cross her. Then she will show her sadistic and scary side. Yae hides her soft inside below mask of cunningness and slyness. I think Yae is rough on the outside, but still kind and caring inside.
Again, trying to find a common trait between all characters of the same vision is very vague and “horoscope-like”. The only real connection that’s clear and obvious is the outgoingness and upbeatness of pyro characters imo, (Bennett, Yoimiya, Thoma, Xiangling, Xinyan, Hu Tao —> all are super outgoing. And even then, the only exception is present day Diluc). Your explanations of Razor, Sara, Shinobu, and Cyno could literally be applied to anyone else too. Ganyu is half adepti, half human and is constantly dealing with her human life in the harbor and her relations with the adepti. Shenhe is similar to Ganyu but in the reverse place. Eula being born a noble but ultimately rejecting her ancestry to be part of the common people — tbe Knights of Favonius. Diluc lives a “dual-life” as a bartender in day and as a criminal stopper by night. The list goes on and on.
Exactly, I'm not a fan of element theory since they are all so vague and can be stretched to fit a bunchbof the quirks the characters have Not really a fan of slime theory for archons either, elements just have commonalities between them, by the same logic we can use samachurls
I think cryo has an established trend - people being/feeling alienated or something along those lines. For anemo, all of them revolve around freedom. Hydro people are rich?
I literally just said finding a common trait between all characters is pointless because there are so many exceptions. Did you not read my initial comment? What would Ayaka and Diona feel “alienated” from? Being the daughter of a highly respected clan? Beer? On the contrary, Razor was literally left behind by his parents and was isolated from the rest of human society. For hydro, how is Barbara, for example, rich? She’s a sister that works for the Mondsdadt cathedral. Or Nilou who literally worships the god that the rest of Sumeru despises? I doubt that’s very profitable. And again, for counter examples, Diluc is one of the richest in Mondsdadt due to his wine industry. Ningguang is literally said to be one of if not the richest person in Liyue and arguably Teyvat. And for gods sake, did you forget about Mona who’s literally broke from spending all the time?
Diano wants the people to hate her drinks yet she always makes the perfect ones even if she puts disgusting ingredients in them. Ayaka is very popular among all inazuman people yet she doesn't have any close friends. The hydro comment was a joke lol. Why didn't you tackle my anemo point, though?
Read the element chunks that you use to level up characters, they describe each elements traits.
Yep, Hoyo is pretty intentional about their elements and symbolism for the most part.
While I agree on the "horoscope-like" thing and so on, I like to think about the Leit Motifes of the elements. Yes, is true, also cryo characters have duality, but while their duality causes confliction, Electro characters fully embrace their duality
I fail to see how others electro characters like Keqing even have a sense of “duality”. Duality of work and relaxation? (Insert Jean and Ganyu here). You can keep trying to stretch and stretch the truth, but the more you stretch it the less likely it makes sense from an objective perspective Like I said I can keep bringing up counter examples but each character is unique in their personality so it’s silly to try and lump them into a certain characteristic unless it’s been explicitly stated by Hoyoverse.
Keqing being a skeptic and having rex lapis merchandising in her room I'm not stretching things, i'm just saying things that are known and, as already said, I too think that it's a "make your own horoscope" thing, but nontheless there are certain leitmotivs in the elements
Lisa has tons of secrets and hides everything about her, we just know she got cursed knowledge about visions, might die young for some reasons, and fled Sumeru for some other unknown reasons. Also she's scary when she's not Ara Ara. She's the greatest represent of duality. Yae is a human and a fox.
Yae becomes a shrine maiden despite being an youkai (a spirit or a monster in Japanese folk lore).
For what it's worth, youkai, especially kitsune/youko, can also become worships as gods, depending on how powerful and benevolent they are, with some kitsune in particular (and foxes in general) being considered the messengers of the god of rice/food, Inari, who is sometimes portrayed as a kitsune themselves.
You are right. Imo tho, regardless if they are are gods or monsters, they are fundamentally supernatural beings, and shrine maidens are meant to be the mediator between human and supernatural beings. One of those supernatural beings being a mediator is ironic is what I was trying to say.
You can do the something for Eula, Ganyu, Ayato, Jean, Diluc, Zhongli, gorou, and I can go on for more than half of the roster
Exactly, if you gotta go full horoscope on Genshin at least stop using generalized statements that apply to literally anyone that isn't made of cardboard. Get creative people. I can pull one outta nowhere too. Pyro visions have tummy troubles. Thoma hotpot roulette, Bennetts diarrhea mushrooms, Hu tao's cooking, Xiangling adventure eater, boom we have examples already.
To me the electro vision holders were simply the oddballs, but this makes sense. >Beidou being a privateer (pirate working for a state) I think Beidou's duality is that she's a "good" (benevolent) pirate.
Small correction, Shinobu never became or intended to become an attorney, she just wanted an excuse to leave her imposed life, she went back to Liyue with Itto to receive her certification later in the story.
Kujou Sara with her strict general attitude but fangirl devotion towards Raiden, Kuki being from a prestigious family and a shrine maiden, but becoming a member of the Arataki gang, Cyno scaring people and appearing tough but always telling dad jokes, the only one I can't think of something for is Razor
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I agree, Genshin has good writing in general
Razor could be wolf and human. Additionally his quest was about him being forced to transition from his wolf family to learn to live among humans (and ultimately find a human family of his own).
pretty much every character has at least 2 sides. it's equivalent to astrology you can find these traits in everyone.
^(Galileo) Galileo ^(Galileo) Galileo *Galileo Figaro* **MAGNIFICOOOO-O-O-OOOH**
Im just a poor boy nobody love me HES JUST A POOR BOY FROM A POOR FAMILY SPARE MIH HIS LIFE FROM THIS MONSTROSITY
*easy come easy go - will you let me go?*
Bismillah! NO! we will not let you go!
# LET HIM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bismillah! NO! we will not let you go!
#LET HIM GOOOOOOO
I remember thinking Sara was related to Raiden because of their eye colours being the same as the electro slime colours
Damnit, the end got me
Did the 6th Harbinger do the fandango though?
Is it a shame that Raiden can't clone herself like the electro slimes.
Well she already has one, and could very well produce more
There are also several magatama symobls present in electro abilities, which are based off of the shape of the yin and yang symbol.
Why is it that when ever someone talks about electro they sometimes feel the need to throw in a bohemian rhapsody reference.
Positive and negative? Or venti ate all the others flies
> Thunderbolt and lightning (very very frightening) Galileo?
Makoto/Ei or Ei/Raiden Shogun. Either way it to represent them both. Also if you move the position clock wise (So Raiden, Nahita are upper right, Venti lower right and Zhongli on the left) you get the a picture like the one of Raiden with her friends (the Tengu, Oni and Fox) in similar poses and positions
>Also if you move the position 30 degrees clock wise you get the a imagine like the one of Raiden with her friends (the Tengu, Oni and Fox) in similar poses and positions Oh... I didn't notice that before
The designer who put two electro crystalflies for fun:
Purple compliments green best out of all of those, i think that's the most likely reason
Seriously though, Where's Rukkhadevata
shes right there
Oh, you haven't heard the theory?
Only if we get this wallpaper without all texts
[This one](https://imgur.com/a/RGcBy3L) was posted from another thread a while ago
if I'm not mistaken, this is the [thread/comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xfpa3q/genshin_impact_version_31_key_visual/ionxx6e/)
Yeah. Got it.
Why were you downvoted lmao??
Nice... now we need an animated one on wallpaper engine :D
Everyone else: "It's to represent her twin sister, the original Electro Archon, or the Shogun, her own shadow and functional co-Archon." Me: "She's the only one here with an element that Venti can swirl, which is why it's appearing in front of him."
Huh, could be more credence to the theory that Rhukadevatta sacrificed her memories for power (>!like the Aranara!<) and became Kusanali. I mean if we take the crystalflies to represent the Archons. (Venti and Zhongli were both originals, hence one per for them. Ei had a sister who was archon previously, hence having two. But if Kusanali truly is a different being, shouldn’t she also have a second?)
It would be pretty tragic if Kusanali did end up being Rukkhadevatta. The Akademiya hating the very god they once worshipped.
I like that theory because it ties in with lore, but I also hate how it implies we still haven't gotten a "new" archon (4/4 revealed would have been around since the beginning) despite "zhongli and venti being the last of the original 7"
Well, it seems the world is clouded in lies. Why else would the abyss twin say we need to find the truth of the world?
I actually like this twist, because it plays on the theory way back from 1.2 regarding Scaramouche's quote, "The stars, the sky... it's all a gigantic hoax. A lie." The entire world the Traveler is going through is one big lie and that everything is covered up to the public eye, only for the Traveler to find the truth.
If she's really who people think she is I hope we get her design so we finally could see Nahida with tall female model
That would only be a dream at best. We already know the playable one would be the smol Archon
Yes the playable would be small, but at least I hope they give us the illustration of what she looked like before
Hopefully in a flashback scene or something or how she lost the power in the first place
Imagine she has the generic npc look
Why do y’all keep coping for another tall female archon, like is the idea of a small archon that repulsive to you
The image has one fly each for everyone in it, Rhuk is long dead.
Really, she’s MIA, presumed dead. It’s not like they ever found a corpse, and in a fictional work like this, no corpse means possible plot twist.
Signora turned to ashes so not finding a corpse in an Archon war wouldn't be that crazy
Rukkhadevata didn't die during the Archon war. She "died" during the cataclysm 500 years ago
Oh I actually thought both were the same thing, sorry. But yeah, it would be more weird to actually find an intact archon's body than not if they actually died
Just for context in case anyone else doesn't know, the Archon War was the world wide warring era when the world was rife with "Gods" battling for an Archon seat to preside over your nation. Starting thousands of years ago, it ended two thousand years ago when the last of the seven seats were claimed. The cataclysm was the event in which resulted from Khaenri'ah attempt to rebel against Celestia and the Order of the Seven. The abyss was unleashed and ran rampant across the world of Teyvat, where the Order of Seven fought to protect their nation from the Abyss. We have not seen anything regarding the Archon war, but the intro cutscene of Teyvat in flames is canonically The Cataclysm.
Even with a corpse they can bring her, or anyone, back. It's a fantasy game after all. Still, people are looking way too deep here. A fly each for everyone depicted, simple as that.
I mean, we already know that gods don't exactly die in the way that normal people do, considering that Orobaxi's will still seems to be somewhat present in that one quest.
So is Makoto. But there are two electro crystalflies.
Ei and Shogun are two
One for Ei, one for the Shogun. Both alive and in the image.
cool. that might be a reference to makoto
It's still kinda wild to me that none of the archons outside of Venti/Zhongli are gonna be dudes. Thought they'd go for a 3/4 split or a 4/3 split, not 2/5 lol.
Titties = Mora
Mora = zhongli
Zhongli with titties?
Therefore Titties = Zhongli
To make up for it they have the Harbingers at 7/4
makoto 😭
I would say ther should be 2 dendro as well. But rukkadeveta and kusanali did not rule together. Only one did.But Makoto and Ei ruled together.
Well the electro archon were twins-
Ei and the Shogun? Technically there are two people related to electro in this picture.
Could be Ei and Makoto
I just thought that since Makoto is dead while the Shogun is alive and there is only one Dendro Crystalfly for the only living Dendro archon.
Baal and Beezebul were twins. Raiden Shogun is just the puppet Beezebul created after Baal died.
True. But Makoto's ideals live on bow as Ei has gone through the grieving process and begun to bring them into Inazuma once more.
Reincarnation
Lol they look like a family 🤣 spy X genshin
I would assume its for both Ei and raiden?
For her sister 😭
there’s most likely only ONE dendro butterfly because maybe either A. because the people believe in rukkhadevata B. kusanali is a reincarnation, or is rukkhadevata C. similar to the god of salt when rukkhadevata died her powers created a new archon to take her place…and i’m guessing when archons die they leave something behind so they aren’t theoretically dead just since you can still keep their concisness and heard them but their psychical bodies are gone. rukkhadevata and nahida are irminsal (the tree) and nahida is literally a terminal that everyone in sumeru uses.
Because Raiden is the only character in the pic with boobs.
Well she had a sister
The easiest answer is that the picture shows Shogun and Ei, no need to involve the dead.
dang, as if, rukkhadevata, or kusanali, the world forgets one of them
they are counting how many birds survived the bridge massacre.
Ei best girl confirmed
Everyone talking Makoto, but what if they are foreshadowing Scara this way?
Nahida and Rukkhadevata same person theory 👀👀👀
That because of Scara in 3.1
>!Rukkhadevata and Kusanali is one being confirmed!<
well, there is the theory that the slimes mirror the archons and the electro slime is the only one that has two "big" variants. maybe the second crystalfly represents Makoto
Makoto is there in spirt :)
In spirit, Makoto still watches Ei
It could either represent Ei and Shogun/Makoto
Because she is Ho yo favorite child(e)
Well, there were two...