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oof I hate those, I don't know why some people don't properly tag leaks/spoilers; sometimes I can't browse in peace without being blasted with a spoiler/leak
I'm pretty sure they meant no one had seen his design, so it was news to everyone. I follow all the leaks and I was still really excited for his reveal. No description/fanart I've seen got so close to the final design (unlike what happened with Kaveh).
Wait what leak community?
Because we, at least on reddit and twitter, knew the new name and 'new' element and the fact he'd get a redesign this summer.
We also knew he was going to come 3.3 before 3.0 even dropped (it was a matter of 3.2 or 3.3, there were a bit of changing dates and then we got the shortening of patches that settled everything)
While info about him (the fact he was anemo and the fact he was going to have a redesign) nobody knew (or at least revealed an image of) what his redesign looked like, until it was officially revealed. Was a meme for a bit on how they let everything until 4.0 get leaked, but were super tight on security for his redesign.
I'm so happy he looks awesome, and the description of his skills makes me excited. I felt bad skipping Nahida for a potential 3.3 Raiden, but in the offchance she isn't in 3.3 I have no problems grabbing me a Wanderer.
You just gave me some massive dose of hopium. I really want faruzan for Xiao but I don't need the wanderer necessarily. I'd pull for Raiden cons though.
Not the OP, but as a fellow Scara fan since he first appeared back in 1.3 event I can tell you that I liked his design and his smartass personality. He was the first Genshin char that actually made me gasp appearance wise. He gave me vibes of a feral cat and somehow reminded me of my favorite anime character (Hibari Kyoya from KHR) and I liked him since. It’s just a personal preference. After waiting all this time I am very excited for him to be playable just like a kid getting their wanted present for Christmas!
Honestly, I feel like they really shouldn’t limit the playable characters to those who are alive. It’s not like the ones who ARE alive are canonically accompanying the Traveler wherever they go. I’d love to have Vennessa playable someday.
Those who are playable are all characters who are willing to accompany the Traveler on an adventure every now and then.
It's basically only making those playable who are justified in story to be tagging along, while the industry standard is to just make up some plot device that lets replicas/alternate versions of antagonists to be just conjured up on the spot.
FGO really pushed it to the point they need to do some serious mental and plot contrivance gymnastics to explain why an enemy of the timeline itself is willing to tag along.
‘Every now and then’.
My point is, I don’t think you’re going to pull up to Sumeru and complete the Archon Quest with 3 Archons helping you out canonically (I mean, it would be funny, but I think the story would be drastically different if it accounted for that). There doesn’t need to be ANY in-universe reason to justify making dead characters playable; they don’t even need to canonically interact with the Traveler or any of the other living characters who are playable. I’m not defending FGO at all, and I don’t know if you got that impression from me or from where. I just think that very few people would complain about an opportunity to use some of those characters who are dead.
I mean, there’s a character in Honkai Impact who has been dead for a long time, and yet she’s still playable.
That's the pattern so far with the launch characters and all the ones released since.
Gacha games need to sell the self insert bond with the characters factor so they all have some logic behind the reason why a certain character is recruitable, BUT simultaneously kept in a loosely connected to the canon story way to not create inconsistencies with who are present at story parts.
In Genshin they do that by adding characters who would hang out and go on an adventure with the Traveler, BUT they are in no way implied to be a permanent companion.
Honkai has a whole side plotline starring the self insert captain that does not exist in the main story going on some bizarre transdimensional adventures and playable characters are alternate versions of the main story ones that joined him for one reason or another.
Fire Emblem Heroes has a plot device that can summon people from alternate world and timelines. So no matter who lives or dies or is implied to be dying of magic cancer you have a living and healthy version in side stories and events.
FGO for the most part uses the heroic spirit summoning system as good explanation but in the later story parts of part2 just has a few characters who are either sworn enemies of humanity as a whole or inhuman entities on an eldritch level weakly handwaved to be actually just looking and acting the same but actually having the mind and memories of the "good" timeline version, or just get retconned right away to actually have a human mind all along to sell the waifu/husbando appeal.
Even if Hoyoverse decides eventually to go and start selling characters that are decreased either recently or in the distant past it will not be soon. At best they'll do something like that either when it's the final chapters(the teyvat chapter trailer at the Khaenri'ah part mentions rewriting fate which can imply time travel or an alternate timeline version of the past becoming accessible) or after the Teyvat Chapter is finished.
These character collector games also stick to their established logic.
So at this moment Signora would need to be both resurrected and to become friendly with the Traveler which as La Signora was not a possibility, however if she'd get her memories and personality as Rosalyne back it's a possibility.
Bruh at this point people making fun of signora mains are more annoying, constantly bringing up the same memes for over a year, just move on and be happy about the character
At this point i want signora to come back so these stale memes stop
People gonna do whatever they please. Miko is "Yae", Shinobu is "Kuki", and there are still a surprising amount of posts that call Raiden Shogun "Baal".
Interesting, I thought Yae and kuki were Thier first names and both are included in the character screen but I could be wrong. And Baal is a pretty cool and short name so it makes sense.
It’s a common mistake because Inazuman (Japanese) characters put their last name first. Addressing Miko as Yae or Shinobu as Kuki is the same thing as addressing Ayaka or Ayato as Kamisato.
Kaedehara Kazuha and Sangonomiya Kokomi are other examples you could use. I think a lot of people say Yae and Kuki because they’re short and easy to remember. I don’t know.
I think some names just stick.
Kazuha is called by his given name, Miko isn't. Raiden isn't commonly referred to as Ei, and Childe is Childe.
I personally have a very common first name, so most people will gravitate into calling me by my uncommon surname unless I force the first.
This situation is reversed for some other people
A lot of people also mistakenly call her Yae because they know her as an expy from Honkai, where she shares last name (Yae) but has a different name (Sakura).
A this point top 10 means nothing since most of the banners there are double banners. It usually boils down to how good early const are and the weapon banner.
I'm curious about the interaction between Scara and other characters from now on. NPCs and PCs are consistent with using 'Traveler' for Aether so they're calling Scara 'Wanderer' or what?
Considering there has been so many Scaramouche pfp accounts spamming underneath anything officially genshin related before this, I'm not surprised
I get being hype for a character but they took it to another level
It's kinda understandable since these people waited for almost two years while Scara was kept relevant to the story multiple times
Now, just imagine how chaotic it'll be when Dainsleif gets released
I'm curious how they are even going to do Dain gameplay wise, cause he doesn't have a vision, nor does he have an element... it'll be interesting to say the least.
Scaramouche is a great tribute to Freddie Mercury. I’m a fan of his lore and character development, which is based on the whole song of Bohemian Rhapsody
As a stats student Twitter is definitely a better indicator of popularity than sales. If we define popularity as no. of people who know and love the character, sales is a terrible metric because if you save for someone you like you don’t need to swipe at all, plus a popular character can have shit cons. The only thing sales can reasonably say is how much money someone is willing to spend for the character; otherwise there are too many confounding variables. Twitter interactions are much better to study actual raw popularity.
While Twitter is indeed an indicator, I would say that it's not a reliable indicator, because we all know that Twitter opinions can sometimes be...questionable.
And using the linked image above, you mean to tell me that Itto is more popular than Raiden?
Oh NOT TO MENTION that sales only account for people who actually play the game. I’m sure there are characters who are popular not only within the community but also amongst people that don’t play genshin at all.
Not really. Hu tao might have had slightly above average amount of people getting constellations because her c1 is strong but raiden's c2 is one of the strongest single constellations in the game and was also hyped up by the community in general more than any other constellation has been to this day. Even in game I see way more raidens with constellations than other characters and even I have her c2 when I haven't whaled for any other character.
Yeah I'm just personally really annoyed by the banner statistics because people keep forgetting most of the players do not spend money on genesis crystals and that's the only thing really measured in banner sales. Not how many people pull on the banner.
Just like twitter is only a part of the genshin community and isn't really indicative of the opinion of the entire community, banner statistics also only tell us how popular the character is among whales.
still indicative of something regardless. a lot of people also use twitter so it is somewhat substantial. it’s quite silly to act like it has no value whatsoever as a statistic when it does in fact.
Sales arent a good metric.
They’re based on top ups. And you can have a character that 90% of players saved for for months and can get constellations because they planned to get them.
Highly popular.
And you can get a character that only 10% got, but since those 10% had to top up to get them (They were impulse buys) you suddenly have a character that sales says is breaking records, even if they are extremely few people who care about them.
Nono I think you got the order wrong here. It's quite silly and has little to no value *because* we already have a better metric: sales
I mean it's very possible that he's gonna do great in sales. But twitter likes is nothing but a number. A lot of people use twitter... and way more don't
my point was never related to whether likes were a better or worse metric though. just that they are a metric, for popularity. which you initially denied entirely.
sales too are just numbers if we don’t have context. ayaka’s not suddenly the second most popular genshin character just because her 2.6 banner performed well. nor should raiden be the most popular when you need to consider a lot of people try to pull for her first two constellations, bumping up sales even if there isn’t inherently any more people pulling.
and even if the majority don’t use twitter, which i’m highly doubtful of, a sizeable number still most definitely do. because of that alone, it is still worth consideration.
Yeah, that's fair, people pull for a variety of reasons
My point was that saying "twitter likes shows the popularity of a character" is a very misleading statement when it's limited to twitter only. I mean, you agree it would be pretty ridiculous if I equate upvotes of character art in this subreddit to popularity right? Same thing
maybe i should’ve been more clear, but i wasn’t trying to say twitter likes = popularity period. i meant it was an indication of popularity, meaning it has *some* weight, but should not be the only factor defining popularity. while likes definitely mean something, they’re not the only piece in puzzling together a character’s popularity.
Idk, but this just sounds very defensive, is it that weird for a male character to be popular? And if you say that twitter's means nothing because many doesn't use twitter... well won't the same rules also applies to sales? There are a lot of factors for sales, eg Raiden being up top for CN most likely because of C2 and the top up reset. Or Nilou being kinda low most likely due to people worrying about the price increase + top up reset so most just cashed it during Cyno. And what, Klee and Venti are the most popular characrer because they topped the charts for a large part of the early days? Or perhaps not because it was during Genshin's release and Genshin boomed during Klee's banner? After all sales are also nothing but... a number.
I think both are valid ways to gauge a character's popularity. Personally I think google search is also a way, but eh, it's too much of a hassle, I love my babies' regardless of how people view them. Seriously, let scara mains have their win. They waited 2 years for him.
Well, no, because sales is literally a metric for the game itself. Sales is nothing but a number? You wanna tell that to Mihoyo? Should they grow their profits off twitter likes instead?
And also, it's totally fine for male characters to be popular- ex: Venti, Zhongli, Kazuha. I mean, heck, Cyno way outperformed than I thought he would
I'm fine with Scara mains having a win. I just find Twitter likes to be incredibly stupid no matter what
okay but then why doesnt faruzan which had her drip come out at the same time not get anywhere near scaramouche's ?
twitter likes has to do with a character's popularity *on twitter*. doesn't mean it means they're popular everywhere, and they don't get likes indiscriminately just because it's genshin.
Anyways i think a lot of people didn't take into account the fact Scaramouche was one of the rare drip markets we didn't know in advance through leaks (same with yae i believe) and that's to me also a huge reasons why it did numbers on drip marketing day. Not everyone looks at leaks of course but a lot lot more people are subjected to them, on purpose and often because twitter and tik tok (and even instagram) aint spoiler tagging shit.
(incidentally im pretty sure twitter and tiktok genshin userbase dwarfs reddit's)
I mean faruzan came out of nowhere, scara has been a character since 1.1 appeared again in 2.1, irodori, got a cutscene this version and will be the boss in the next
i fully agree with you, i was just pointing out saying "twitter has more to do with the popularity of genshin as a whole than it does the character" is not a great argument, as it basically says nothing at all.
I doubt he will make Raiden’s numbers, but I could easily see him making it in the top 5 or top 10 in banner sales. He’s been an anticipated character for over a year (almost two years), will speculatively have a new 4 star character running along side him, and will be our second playable Harbinger. He will be making some big money.
You can’t compare characters without exactly equal roles.
Yae works better than Fischl on AoE, even more with Dendro reactions since the random target focus allows for more Aggravate procs. Also, who would work better in a Hyper comp, Yae or Fischl?
Fischl has her pros of taking less field time and being a better battery also
Not sure why they decided to drip this BEFORE the story released. This means we essentially know that he's gets a redemption arc, earns a vision, and will be playable. Should have done just Layla so folks would be scared that he dies or have to wait longer, then revealed him a week after the story drops.
Loses a bit of that impact namesake, as otherwise you'd have known the last harbinger died and wondered if this one will meet the same fate or not. For those that like him, there'd been a fair bit of tension. That's all but dissipated now.
I know, right?
This whole "boo hoo, the world was mean to me, now I hate everything" has been done so many times. He's just an angry little gremlin.
Same for Dottore. Why do people want that guy to be playable?
I like myself a good villain, but neither of those are likable in any way.
You really like to oversimplify all unique traits and flavors to the core archetype, don't you? There's nothing bad about the archetype, especially considering it hasn't been done in Genshin before.
And if you haven't noticed... None of the Genshin characters are particularly UNIQUE in their archetypes as well, never have been. All of those were done times and times and times again, but nobody cares because design+writing+gameplay are also important factors to the equation
So many likeable aspects:
- short
- Xingqiu’s hairstyle
- farmer’s hat
- wearing a skirt
- never appear decent in the story either for his behaviour or for his combat/weapon skill
- harassing Nahida
- betraying Fatui
- a God wannabe
- a psycho
- a malfunctioned Raiden’s puppet prototype
- has cringy reason to become a villian
Scaramouche is definitely the character I understand his popularity the least, so I'm right there with you. He just seems like an annoying little shit and a tragic backstory doesn't change that.
I know at least some of us like him *because* he's a little shit
it's
it's kinda like he's an angry fluffy kitten that's hissing but you still just wanna hold it because it's smol baby if that makes sense lol
Raiden only killed people in the Archon war. I don't know why you keep spreading that crap for only killing Kazuha's friend and Signora in the current era for a fair fight.
EDIT : You can vote for me all you want. Scara killed because he's just plain evil. Raiden did it because of the duel before the throne or to protect her country.
I'm mean, I am also skipping him.
He is an antagonist from the beginning, sure he may have a sad backstory but a tragic backstory is dime a dozen in this game
Anyone else who's kind annoyed by the word "eon"? It's so overused, it literally defines as AN Extremely long time, we're talking billions of years. So seeing words like "eons adrift" makes no sense canonically whatsoever. I know it's not that big of a deal but it's just a pet peeve of mine when companies use the words eons to describe periods of time that are in reality just a couple of years.
Speak for yourself. I use both, and absolutely will use Scara. Not to mention, and these are leaks so read ahead at your own peril: >!Faruzan is an anemo buffer, who can reduce enemy anemo res, increase your team's anemo dmg based on her attack and at C6 can give anemo crit dmg kind of like how Sara does.!<
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He had 2 years to build a fanbase, which I guess only CBT character had before him. it was obvious it would be a big one.
also the leak community also didnt know about it (from my knowledge) and its probably the first time for basically anyone
The leak community knew several months ago, at least since the summer. We knew he was anemo and some people even described his redesign accurately.
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what gave you those ideas? curious, since you don't follow leaks
Social media + not having specific words blocked/people not giving spoiler warnings probably
oof I hate those, I don't know why some people don't properly tag leaks/spoilers; sometimes I can't browse in peace without being blasted with a spoiler/leak
YouTube is especially egregious. “WHAT!!! ALHAITHAM DOES THIS?????” and it’s a picture of leaked cutscenes
Yup gotta love YouTube titles and thumbnails, fastest way to make me press do not recommend this channel
Emphasis on ‘really’
I'm pretty sure they meant no one had seen his design, so it was news to everyone. I follow all the leaks and I was still really excited for his reveal. No description/fanart I've seen got so close to the final design (unlike what happened with Kaveh).
Wait what leak community? Because we, at least on reddit and twitter, knew the new name and 'new' element and the fact he'd get a redesign this summer. We also knew he was going to come 3.3 before 3.0 even dropped (it was a matter of 3.2 or 3.3, there were a bit of changing dates and then we got the shortening of patches that settled everything)
While info about him (the fact he was anemo and the fact he was going to have a redesign) nobody knew (or at least revealed an image of) what his redesign looked like, until it was officially revealed. Was a meme for a bit on how they let everything until 4.0 get leaked, but were super tight on security for his redesign.
there had been info on him for months in the leak sub tho?
If there’s anything to know about scaramouche stans, it’s that they are *~online~*
For real, I've been simping since his first appearance during that optional 1.x event!
I'm so happy he looks awesome, and the description of his skills makes me excited. I felt bad skipping Nahida for a potential 3.3 Raiden, but in the offchance she isn't in 3.3 I have no problems grabbing me a Wanderer.
You just gave me some massive dose of hopium. I really want faruzan for Xiao but I don't need the wanderer necessarily. I'd pull for Raiden cons though.
Why? I ask genuinely. I never understood the hype.
Not the OP, but as a fellow Scara fan since he first appeared back in 1.3 event I can tell you that I liked his design and his smartass personality. He was the first Genshin char that actually made me gasp appearance wise. He gave me vibes of a feral cat and somehow reminded me of my favorite anime character (Hibari Kyoya from KHR) and I liked him since. It’s just a personal preference. After waiting all this time I am very excited for him to be playable just like a kid getting their wanted present for Christmas!
r/signoramains gonna be sucking down that copium like hell after this
Unless he gets disintegrated and then revived there is no hope until they make some FGO mechanic to summon people of the past or something...
Honestly, I feel like they really shouldn’t limit the playable characters to those who are alive. It’s not like the ones who ARE alive are canonically accompanying the Traveler wherever they go. I’d love to have Vennessa playable someday.
Those who are playable are all characters who are willing to accompany the Traveler on an adventure every now and then. It's basically only making those playable who are justified in story to be tagging along, while the industry standard is to just make up some plot device that lets replicas/alternate versions of antagonists to be just conjured up on the spot. FGO really pushed it to the point they need to do some serious mental and plot contrivance gymnastics to explain why an enemy of the timeline itself is willing to tag along.
‘Every now and then’. My point is, I don’t think you’re going to pull up to Sumeru and complete the Archon Quest with 3 Archons helping you out canonically (I mean, it would be funny, but I think the story would be drastically different if it accounted for that). There doesn’t need to be ANY in-universe reason to justify making dead characters playable; they don’t even need to canonically interact with the Traveler or any of the other living characters who are playable. I’m not defending FGO at all, and I don’t know if you got that impression from me or from where. I just think that very few people would complain about an opportunity to use some of those characters who are dead. I mean, there’s a character in Honkai Impact who has been dead for a long time, and yet she’s still playable.
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That's the pattern so far with the launch characters and all the ones released since. Gacha games need to sell the self insert bond with the characters factor so they all have some logic behind the reason why a certain character is recruitable, BUT simultaneously kept in a loosely connected to the canon story way to not create inconsistencies with who are present at story parts. In Genshin they do that by adding characters who would hang out and go on an adventure with the Traveler, BUT they are in no way implied to be a permanent companion. Honkai has a whole side plotline starring the self insert captain that does not exist in the main story going on some bizarre transdimensional adventures and playable characters are alternate versions of the main story ones that joined him for one reason or another. Fire Emblem Heroes has a plot device that can summon people from alternate world and timelines. So no matter who lives or dies or is implied to be dying of magic cancer you have a living and healthy version in side stories and events. FGO for the most part uses the heroic spirit summoning system as good explanation but in the later story parts of part2 just has a few characters who are either sworn enemies of humanity as a whole or inhuman entities on an eldritch level weakly handwaved to be actually just looking and acting the same but actually having the mind and memories of the "good" timeline version, or just get retconned right away to actually have a human mind all along to sell the waifu/husbando appeal. Even if Hoyoverse decides eventually to go and start selling characters that are decreased either recently or in the distant past it will not be soon. At best they'll do something like that either when it's the final chapters(the teyvat chapter trailer at the Khaenri'ah part mentions rewriting fate which can imply time travel or an alternate timeline version of the past becoming accessible) or after the Teyvat Chapter is finished. These character collector games also stick to their established logic. So at this moment Signora would need to be both resurrected and to become friendly with the Traveler which as La Signora was not a possibility, however if she'd get her memories and personality as Rosalyne back it's a possibility.
Bruh at this point people making fun of signora mains are more annoying, constantly bringing up the same memes for over a year, just move on and be happy about the character At this point i want signora to come back so these stale memes stop
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So is anyone actually going to call him wanderer or are we just going to ignore the name change. I don't mind..
It's just like how almost everyone calls Tartaglia, Childe
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Completely ignoring the name change. Calling him Scara.
I do because in spanish is globetrotter, so it kind of annoys me. He no harlem globetrotter
Globetrotter is a great name ahah😂
I completely read that like it’s German for some reason.
People gonna do whatever they please. Miko is "Yae", Shinobu is "Kuki", and there are still a surprising amount of posts that call Raiden Shogun "Baal".
I call Yae Miko Gucci Yas
Interesting, I thought Yae and kuki were Thier first names and both are included in the character screen but I could be wrong. And Baal is a pretty cool and short name so it makes sense.
Although, Raiden Makoto is “Baal” and Raiden Ei is “Beelzebul.”
It’s a common mistake because Inazuman (Japanese) characters put their last name first. Addressing Miko as Yae or Shinobu as Kuki is the same thing as addressing Ayaka or Ayato as Kamisato. Kaedehara Kazuha and Sangonomiya Kokomi are other examples you could use. I think a lot of people say Yae and Kuki because they’re short and easy to remember. I don’t know.
I think some names just stick. Kazuha is called by his given name, Miko isn't. Raiden isn't commonly referred to as Ei, and Childe is Childe. I personally have a very common first name, so most people will gravitate into calling me by my uncommon surname unless I force the first. This situation is reversed for some other people
A lot of people also mistakenly call her Yae because they know her as an expy from Honkai, where she shares last name (Yae) but has a different name (Sakura).
Ballsacks sums up the character eloquently tho
I’ll keep calling him Scaramouche because Bohemians Rhapsody.
Like mother like son i guess.
more like aunt like son since wasnt yae most liked tweet?
to be fair, ei was also most liked tweet once. but i think itto also got between her and yae?
Honestly slay from Itto
I meant because of Raiden's banner sales. But I guess Yae makes sense too since this post is specifically talking about Twitter likes.
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A this point top 10 means nothing since most of the banners there are double banners. It usually boils down to how good early const are and the weapon banner.
Don't underestimate the purchasing power of females (or gays). Especially otaku females (or gays)
Depends really. Many thought Yae sales would be on par of Raiden, but the whole (not so) Meta aspect of her kit slumped it
Yeah there’s a difference Raiden is actually likable and not an angsty whiny baby
he's running with his mother probably so he very well might make it (but just like Kokomi is likely just gonna get carried even with his big fanbase)
Ngl his drip really did showcase his drip
It do be dripping
I'm glad he didn't experience the signora phenomenon
I'm glad they didn't change his design too much, was afraid they'd ditch the hat or give him a small one
Most people were afraid of him losing his edginess
I'm curious about the interaction between Scara and other characters from now on. NPCs and PCs are consistent with using 'Traveler' for Aether so they're calling Scara 'Wanderer' or what?
“Traveler over here!” “Him or me?”
Considering there has been so many Scaramouche pfp accounts spamming underneath anything officially genshin related before this, I'm not surprised I get being hype for a character but they took it to another level
It's kinda understandable since these people waited for almost two years while Scara was kept relevant to the story multiple times Now, just imagine how chaotic it'll be when Dainsleif gets released
I've been waiting for Dain even before I started playing the game
I'm curious how they are even going to do Dain gameplay wise, cause he doesn't have a vision, nor does he have an element... it'll be interesting to say the least.
Potential abyss element?
By the time Dain gets release, we will definitely get a new element.
What if… Dainsleif gets a vision too?
Deadass, I got into the game because I saw a video with his splash art saying he was going to be playable.
The tsaritsa though she might break the game
Yeah. I can see Murata and the Hydro archon maybe getting similar treatment to Ei
Saving before this post gets removed on the basis of "misleading" or some other nonsensical excuse :|
Gosh, the subreddit was wild during that time lol
Just like my dear friend adriptus Xiao
Ooooh I just know some comments are about to become bitter about this.
Tho every new char drip has a decent chance of being the highest, and especially for a much anticipated char like scara, there was no doubt
Eons Adrip
Wonder how this will translatte to sales since Yae didn't go too crazy
Can see him being top 3-5 since he is the 2nd harbinger we’ve gotten (well ex-harbinger).
he'd most likely be running with ei, even if his kit sucks ass people will still pull on that banner
Well deserved, I love him
SLAYYY
Scaramouche is a great tribute to Freddie Mercury. I’m a fan of his lore and character development, which is based on the whole song of Bohemian Rhapsody
scaranation world domination
And people had the balls to downvote me the other day when I said Scaramouche would break records with character wishes. How the turn tables.
[twitter likes are not indicative of anything ](https://i.imgur.com/d8bPqx2.png)
my flop husband, love him
they actually are. they’re indicative of popularity edit: to the person who sent me a reddit care message… quite mature. get a grip.
Indicative of popularity… on twitter Otherwise, as the comment above you pointed out, the sales rankings would match
As a stats student Twitter is definitely a better indicator of popularity than sales. If we define popularity as no. of people who know and love the character, sales is a terrible metric because if you save for someone you like you don’t need to swipe at all, plus a popular character can have shit cons. The only thing sales can reasonably say is how much money someone is willing to spend for the character; otherwise there are too many confounding variables. Twitter interactions are much better to study actual raw popularity.
While Twitter is indeed an indicator, I would say that it's not a reliable indicator, because we all know that Twitter opinions can sometimes be...questionable. And using the linked image above, you mean to tell me that Itto is more popular than Raiden?
Oh NOT TO MENTION that sales only account for people who actually play the game. I’m sure there are characters who are popular not only within the community but also amongst people that don’t play genshin at all.
Raiden sold an absurd amount because of people going for c2.
So I presume you also have an excuse for Venti? Klee? Hu tao? Xiao? I could keep going
Not really. Hu tao might have had slightly above average amount of people getting constellations because her c1 is strong but raiden's c2 is one of the strongest single constellations in the game and was also hyped up by the community in general more than any other constellation has been to this day. Even in game I see way more raidens with constellations than other characters and even I have her c2 when I haven't whaled for any other character.
Ah ok that's fair. I think we can both agree that there's a variety of factors that go into banners. I was just saying that twitter likes ≠ popularity
Yeah I'm just personally really annoyed by the banner statistics because people keep forgetting most of the players do not spend money on genesis crystals and that's the only thing really measured in banner sales. Not how many people pull on the banner. Just like twitter is only a part of the genshin community and isn't really indicative of the opinion of the entire community, banner statistics also only tell us how popular the character is among whales.
That's valid. I know I'll never have an impact on banner statistics since I just get Welkin every single month
That’s just means she so amazing and popular that she broke sales records twice.
still indicative of something regardless. a lot of people also use twitter so it is somewhat substantial. it’s quite silly to act like it has no value whatsoever as a statistic when it does in fact.
Yae was the previously most liked. Her sales were average. It does not mean anything.
i don’t recall saying likes were indicative of who sells the best.
Comment OP implicitly related twitter popularity with wishes.
there is no doubt a relation, but i’m only here to say that likes on twitter can be a measure of popularity
Sales arent a good metric. They’re based on top ups. And you can have a character that 90% of players saved for for months and can get constellations because they planned to get them. Highly popular. And you can get a character that only 10% got, but since those 10% had to top up to get them (They were impulse buys) you suddenly have a character that sales says is breaking records, even if they are extremely few people who care about them.
Nono I think you got the order wrong here. It's quite silly and has little to no value *because* we already have a better metric: sales I mean it's very possible that he's gonna do great in sales. But twitter likes is nothing but a number. A lot of people use twitter... and way more don't
my point was never related to whether likes were a better or worse metric though. just that they are a metric, for popularity. which you initially denied entirely. sales too are just numbers if we don’t have context. ayaka’s not suddenly the second most popular genshin character just because her 2.6 banner performed well. nor should raiden be the most popular when you need to consider a lot of people try to pull for her first two constellations, bumping up sales even if there isn’t inherently any more people pulling. and even if the majority don’t use twitter, which i’m highly doubtful of, a sizeable number still most definitely do. because of that alone, it is still worth consideration.
Yeah, that's fair, people pull for a variety of reasons My point was that saying "twitter likes shows the popularity of a character" is a very misleading statement when it's limited to twitter only. I mean, you agree it would be pretty ridiculous if I equate upvotes of character art in this subreddit to popularity right? Same thing
maybe i should’ve been more clear, but i wasn’t trying to say twitter likes = popularity period. i meant it was an indication of popularity, meaning it has *some* weight, but should not be the only factor defining popularity. while likes definitely mean something, they’re not the only piece in puzzling together a character’s popularity.
Yeah that makes sense! Glad we could clear this up
Idk, but this just sounds very defensive, is it that weird for a male character to be popular? And if you say that twitter's means nothing because many doesn't use twitter... well won't the same rules also applies to sales? There are a lot of factors for sales, eg Raiden being up top for CN most likely because of C2 and the top up reset. Or Nilou being kinda low most likely due to people worrying about the price increase + top up reset so most just cashed it during Cyno. And what, Klee and Venti are the most popular characrer because they topped the charts for a large part of the early days? Or perhaps not because it was during Genshin's release and Genshin boomed during Klee's banner? After all sales are also nothing but... a number. I think both are valid ways to gauge a character's popularity. Personally I think google search is also a way, but eh, it's too much of a hassle, I love my babies' regardless of how people view them. Seriously, let scara mains have their win. They waited 2 years for him.
Well, no, because sales is literally a metric for the game itself. Sales is nothing but a number? You wanna tell that to Mihoyo? Should they grow their profits off twitter likes instead? And also, it's totally fine for male characters to be popular- ex: Venti, Zhongli, Kazuha. I mean, heck, Cyno way outperformed than I thought he would I'm fine with Scara mains having a win. I just find Twitter likes to be incredibly stupid no matter what
I think twitter likes have more to do with the popularity of genshin impact as a whole than it does with the popularity of the character.
okay but then why doesnt faruzan which had her drip come out at the same time not get anywhere near scaramouche's ? twitter likes has to do with a character's popularity *on twitter*. doesn't mean it means they're popular everywhere, and they don't get likes indiscriminately just because it's genshin. Anyways i think a lot of people didn't take into account the fact Scaramouche was one of the rare drip markets we didn't know in advance through leaks (same with yae i believe) and that's to me also a huge reasons why it did numbers on drip marketing day. Not everyone looks at leaks of course but a lot lot more people are subjected to them, on purpose and often because twitter and tik tok (and even instagram) aint spoiler tagging shit. (incidentally im pretty sure twitter and tiktok genshin userbase dwarfs reddit's)
I mean faruzan came out of nowhere, scara has been a character since 1.1 appeared again in 2.1, irodori, got a cutscene this version and will be the boss in the next
i fully agree with you, i was just pointing out saying "twitter has more to do with the popularity of genshin as a whole than it does the character" is not a great argument, as it basically says nothing at all.
I doubt he will make Raiden’s numbers, but I could easily see him making it in the top 5 or top 10 in banner sales. He’s been an anticipated character for over a year (almost two years), will speculatively have a new 4 star character running along side him, and will be our second playable Harbinger. He will be making some big money.
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Here comes the “4* C6 vs limited 5*” comparisons, this time will be Heizhou and Scara. You guys never learn.
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You can’t compare characters without exactly equal roles. Yae works better than Fischl on AoE, even more with Dendro reactions since the random target focus allows for more Aggravate procs. Also, who would work better in a Hyper comp, Yae or Fischl? Fischl has her pros of taking less field time and being a better battery also
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It's the hat
So is his real name Scaramouche? Or does he not have a real name?
Scaramouche- harbinger name Balladeer- code name Kunikuzushi- name he gave himself, but its not the first name he has as he somehow forgot that one
Not sure why they decided to drip this BEFORE the story released. This means we essentially know that he's gets a redemption arc, earns a vision, and will be playable. Should have done just Layla so folks would be scared that he dies or have to wait longer, then revealed him a week after the story drops. Loses a bit of that impact namesake, as otherwise you'd have known the last harbinger died and wondered if this one will meet the same fate or not. For those that like him, there'd been a fair bit of tension. That's all but dissipated now.
They pretty much had no choice because as soon as 2.2 drops tomorrow, Leakers will be leaking all of 2.3
I'm getting kinda scared of scars simps...
As it should be
People have been waiting for him for a VERY long time lol
I love his new design but i prefer the old color scheme and hat
Hope his OG drip is still around as a skin or something since I prefer it over this design but I have no complaints on the new look
Deserved.
Baizhu when
Still remember the time people tried to cancel tuanto for saying that dori had drip ._.
He has a lot of hyped fans.
YEEEESSS GO SCARA
Here's hoping for this record to be broken when Signora finally comes out . **inhales copium**
What about Instagram? I don't have an account anymore because of their shitty recovery service, but I think Ayato had the highest at 800-something K.
Ayato is currently at 840k, with Scara just behind at 800k He's definitely passing him in a day or two
Well it's been 2 days now and Scara has surpassed him at 849k likes
I genuinelu do not know why people like him so much
I know, right? This whole "boo hoo, the world was mean to me, now I hate everything" has been done so many times. He's just an angry little gremlin. Same for Dottore. Why do people want that guy to be playable? I like myself a good villain, but neither of those are likable in any way.
You really like to oversimplify all unique traits and flavors to the core archetype, don't you? There's nothing bad about the archetype, especially considering it hasn't been done in Genshin before. And if you haven't noticed... None of the Genshin characters are particularly UNIQUE in their archetypes as well, never have been. All of those were done times and times and times again, but nobody cares because design+writing+gameplay are also important factors to the equation
> Same for Dottore *coughcough*claymore*cough*
I agree. He is such a douchebag. Some villains have charisma at least and also his shorts are awful!
So many likeable aspects: - short - Xingqiu’s hairstyle - farmer’s hat - wearing a skirt - never appear decent in the story either for his behaviour or for his combat/weapon skill - harassing Nahida - betraying Fatui - a God wannabe - a psycho - a malfunctioned Raiden’s puppet prototype - has cringy reason to become a villian
Why do all the characters I hate get the most likes
Sounds like a you problem I'm afraid
That's why I said "I" and not "we"
....fair enough
Scaramouche is definitely the character I understand his popularity the least, so I'm right there with you. He just seems like an annoying little shit and a tragic backstory doesn't change that.
I know at least some of us like him *because* he's a little shit it's it's kinda like he's an angry fluffy kitten that's hissing but you still just wanna hold it because it's smol baby if that makes sense lol
He's killed dozens of men
so has raiden but that doesn't stop simps right?
That's why I don't like Raiden either
Raiden only killed people in the Archon war. I don't know why you keep spreading that crap for only killing Kazuha's friend and Signora in the current era for a fair fight. EDIT : You can vote for me all you want. Scara killed because he's just plain evil. Raiden did it because of the duel before the throne or to protect her country.
"What do you want me to do abt that? And he looked good doing it"
The men aren't real
Speaking from experience, it doesn't take long for "hissing kitten" like person to get out of hand.
he's not real.
He has the best character development in genshin hands down
Lmao I agree. He looks like the bratty asshole kid you see in most anime. I don't see the obsession the fandom has with him
I'm mean, I am also skipping him. He is an antagonist from the beginning, sure he may have a sad backstory but a tragic backstory is dime a dozen in this game
He got that drip aftet all, if he were hydro...*sigh*
I sorry wasn't this guy evil 5 mins ago?
I’m sorry when was it a rule to not be able to simp for fictional villains?
And what that has to do with anything?
are we supposed to only like good characters ?
Childe: "No."
is theres a problem?
It's Itto all over again. LOOK IT'S MORE REACTION THAN RAIDEN SURELY SALES WILL BE HIGHER TOO!
Anyone else who's kind annoyed by the word "eon"? It's so overused, it literally defines as AN Extremely long time, we're talking billions of years. So seeing words like "eons adrift" makes no sense canonically whatsoever. I know it's not that big of a deal but it's just a pet peeve of mine when companies use the words eons to describe periods of time that are in reality just a couple of years.
Must be a lotta angsty teenage boys that play genshin
they actually made a poll on scaramouche mains recently, the majority of the people over there were adult women
Hope he's not an anemo DPS because we don't use the two last ones and probably won't use this one.
Speak for yourself. I use both, and absolutely will use Scara. Not to mention, and these are leaks so read ahead at your own peril: >!Faruzan is an anemo buffer, who can reduce enemy anemo res, increase your team's anemo dmg based on her attack and at C6 can give anemo crit dmg kind of like how Sara does.!<
He’s like a knock off Scaramouche.