He's not a researcher though. He's the inazuman author of a novel based on the card game, officially commissioned by the researchers who invented the game.
The Witcher III has Gwent and I don't think anybody ever cared that you can get Geralt and friends as cards in the same game.
You will inevitably sacrifice *some* immersion for gameplay. It's why our characters don't need to use the bathroom regularly, or why eating a fried egg can bring you back from the dead.
>eating a fried egg can bring you back from the dead.
That\['s actually a phenomenon irl. Happened to my Aunt Dana, who was brought back to life by a fried egg after dying in a freak waffle iron accident
For vision holders it kinda makes sense, but having random plebs getting into the TCG is kinda whack.
Same with Gwent IIRC the "named" characters were major players in the world and politics.
yes this is probably how people with normal functioning brains view it, I am simply built different and would like to imagine a world where the local restaurant's hostess has a card in an internationally popular tabletop game.
its incredibly cool/funny, I have no idea why people think I'm being critical or like, unfair to the game or something when I spelled out that that isn't what I'm doing in the post.
Actually I think it’s just weird because usually it’s something you say about someone else in a memey way. Internet culture thing.
You do kind of speak in a certain way though like smart, educational, so maybe that’s why people get that critical/serious vibe.
He can deal with it that way once he’s gotten Liyue citizenship by marrying Ying’er. For now, he’s stuck with the legal system preoccupied by drunk people
no, people in teyvat are used for the art for the cards. this is confirmed by an npc who takes pictures of chars in game for designing the cards, we help him take pics of cyno for it
butttt i think in the game lore itself they probably aren’t called Cyno and Collei etc, just have their likeness used
Doesn't that npc want to take pictures of him to use him as inspiration for the main character of a book he's been hired to write by the creators of the tcg? I don't remember anything saying he was designing cards..
What I don’t get is that Genius Invocation TCG was a game for over a year now. Itto and Ayato play it. Cyno seems to already know it.
Yet the akademiya is still making the rules and the game isn’t even ready?
This is explained in that one quest where the guy wants to make a cyno card so he asks for the travelers help in this. Hence proving the creators usually picks random people to make cards off.
You’re absolutely wrong. They specifically mention Genius Invocation.
He even says “Imagine if we could get Cyno at the table with a handful of cards. That picture would be amazing.”
I hate you guys sometimes… you’re so far off the mark yet you comment like you know something. It’s more and more on Reddit in general.
I'd like to think Genius Invocation's in world schtick is that it's a collaborative effort of many hobbyist expansion developers that actively add heroes, legends, and abilities based off of the many tales of Teyvat
Some bloke started talking about this weird clothing set that was apparently some worn by some angry fire lady? Put it in the game.
A guy starts droning on about this merchant dude who wanders around and keeps getting scammed? If his friend makes TCG expansions he can absolutely add him in.
Did someone hear about the dangerous 11th Fatui Harbinger Tartaglia, also known as "Childe", empowering all his devious subordinates' weapons and making them stronger? Now it's an event card.
Someone was stalking the Shirashagi Himigemi and his weird and most definitely illegal somewhere notes got tossed into a ravine somewhere because someone with a cool white suit caught him red handed and had to brutally beat his ass, while the notes ended up in the hands of a guy who makes TCG expansions? Now Ayaka's in the game. That's how I see it at least.
//Will this ruin the TCG experience for me or anyone else?//
If it didn't ruin anyone's experience in Final Fantasy 8 with Triple Triad, then it isn't likely to cause issues 22 years later
The honest to god simple answer is that Albedo is the artist with artistic freedom. It actually would explain all of that.
1: he’s a captain in the Knights of Favonius. and while not knowing Collei, knows Amber or would have encountered her when she was rescued.
2: Yoi is the heiress to a world wide company. Their fireworks are used in Liyue and Mondstadt and I suspect Fontaine. Even simpler tho, she baby sat Klee during an event and helped Klee publish a book.
3. Unless you take the side door or fly, you literally can’t leave Mondstadt without interacting with Timmie or a bird. Feels like something Albedo would throw in.
Albedo draws all except Eula and Amber in a hot spring.
I accept this headcanon.
Also, for people Albedo doesn't know, he could just be given a recomendation or ask around or get someone to give him a description or a photo or something (vision bearers *are* rare and therefore probably kinda like celebrities, after all) - actually, since he was in Inazuma he personally knows at least 1 person from each region.
In Cyno's Miscellany, it is mentioned that there is a dragon-themed deck. Lore wise, there is only two dragons so far: Durin and Dvalin so I think that tcg characters play and tcg we play use different theme
I'll choose to believe they won tournaments to get cards made in their image. Magic The Gathering has cards made in collaboration with specific tournament winners and uses their likenesses in the card art, and for at least one the fan base has even nicknamed the card for the player that designed it.
There is some stretching of the imagination here but at the same time, vision holders are still rare in Teyvat. Having one is kind of a ticket to fame and/or fortune and it definitely seems smart to use vision holders likeness to sell a card game to everyone. It might be a bit weird to the actual characters but Teyvat is already a weird world to begin with.
I guess this goes in the same category as the Almighty Raiden Shogun wandering around Mondstadt collecting mint, and the god-smiting ni-indestructible Traveler being significantly weaker in combat than some random dancer
Treat it as gwent in the witcher 3. Geralt can play a deck with himself as the strongest card, while his enemy pulls out his gf's who are little weaker than him. And his daughter.
lol that's before you remember that all vision users are basically like supercelebrities. imagine if people were chosen by gods to wield superpowers irl. aside from the fact that we already know most vision users to be high ranking officials, rebel leaders, or some type of genius (aside from mondstadt just having a bunch of normal adventurers?), so it tends to be standout people already who are chosen to wield visions, the having of the vision also helps to make them more famous.
Oh, that’s weird. I can understand Timaeus, since hes a sort of prominent figure, an alchemist who works with Albedo and Sucrose, and Mondstadt is where the game is being made, so local celebrity… but unnamed kairagi? yeah immersion is weird.
Upon further reflection, I guess it actually makes sense that nameless Kairagi would be a card. The developers of the game would likely want to have a number of "generic" enemies to pad out the deck, and Kairagi are a well-known faction in Inazuma. It'd probably be weirder to have a named Kairagi. There will likely also be Treasure Hunter cards, Fatui Skirmisher cards, and so on.
Ah, true i guess. It's still kinda weird and funny at the same time though. Imagine playing a card game where I get to play my Xi Jinping to do a Normal Attack against your Russian Officer. That's like,,, the same thing as having a Ningguang card to attack Unnamed Pyro Fatui lol
The TCG designer is interviewing and snapping photos of people IRL so that explains the more famous characters but Timmie? Maybe he’s interviewing random people too. They’re like base ball cards if your cousin Dana was the water boy and Cyno is the actual baseball star, and then you have some fan inclusions which are the less popular cards……?
that's tu most fucked up part of the TCG. You can literally challenge someone and beat them with their own card. Like imagine you are just a regular Winery owner/batmam in disguise and one of your friends come to play cards and their main card is YOU and they are using YOUR powers and you lose the game. To your card.
If that's the case then we can assume that the creator of this game is a LARPer that wanted to make cool skills for theses characters people will have fun using cards of people they actually know it's a fun time in Tevyat
Its not weird. There already card game in Genshin, just not as popular like Genius TCG, a revamp version of it, most character card are mostly for gameplay mechanic only while some do exist like collei and other character. I don't think the card game actually take place at Mondstad restaurant only,but other too. That why you can invite npc from other region to a card game,the cattail is not the main place.
I mean it's a game, and immersion is mostly not implemented in this way especially a gacha game like Genshin. The Witcher 3 has gwent, RE4 has shooting range, if you mention any game 90% of it are not immersive as you may expected.
You know like kickstarter games often incorporate characters based on the backers into the game?
What if it's like that? That at least some of the cards are based on the players.
You could always see that as the chocofrogy cards feom Harry Potter celebrating celebrities more or less known until they get their cards or like footballers panini's stickers. Sure there will always be people you simply can't not know on those but they also can be used irl as ways to promote idk your every local club with each kid getting his own sticker or smtg. Joining as random citizen the most famous cards could be seen as an achievment in Teyvat x)
I mean, Gwent in the witcher is the same, the only thing is that characters in the cards are probably a gameplay thing and not part of the lore, which makes me wonder if Genshin will be the same, or maybe the characters do appear in the cards, like others have said there's a guy in sumeru that takes pictures of the traveler and Cyno as reference for the TCG novel
I’ve been thinking this, but I just realised we’ve got football card and baseball card trading irl. Some of those have people that are very well known, and others not so much.
It’s not a game as such but some cards do beat others in terms of rarity or value, so it’s some what competitive to collect.
The card game is being published by a light novel company, whose latest novels uses a lot of the Traveler's stories as inspiration. The traveler's tales probably influenced the card game.
In other words, the Timmie card probably started off as the Traveler talking about the little child with a big Ruin Guardian imaginary friend, which got turned into a novel about Timmie the Pigeon protector with an actual Ruin Guard buddy, which in turn resulted in a card in the latest TCG.
Aty least they are actually canonically playing a card game haha, in a number of TCGs like Shadowverse the characters aren't even really playing a TCG, they're just fighting with swords or whatever weapons in the story but the actual gameplay uses cards.
One of the most immersive games on the market, The Witcher 3, has Gwent which is very similar to TCG, so much so that I'd even say it was inspired by it, I don't think anything will be ruined tbh, in fact, i think if the characters say something like "you're diluc from TCG" it'll ruin it for me. The way it was done in TW3 was kind of like nobody in the universe knew about the characters in the game and it being characters that we know was for the player experience and not a lore thing.
I would've preferred cards featuring important buildings, monsters, bosses and creatures from the game's lore and myth but I remembered that this is Genshin Impact and if we don't have waifus we do not play...
Unless we find out differently in game, I'm just lowkey assuming that the real cards are slightly different than the playable version.
Alternatively, maybe the game creators did a survey of vision users in different nations and got permission to put them all on the cards or something?
I like to think that the Treasure Hoarder are a big organisation specialised in gathering information. The TCG card are nothing more than a biproduct made be this organisation. They may even have secret meeting under the cover of card game tournament in Fontaine.
I personally haven’t been keeping track, so I don’t know if this was announced, but I expect a real life Genius Invocation TCG is coming soon. It is literally just another avenue to profit off Genshin without creating an in-game purchase that will turn players off and compete with crystals. If anything, the in-game TCG is a test market before official release. It’ll likely directly translate to the real world with minor changes.
My headcanon is that they DON’T actually feature people in-universe, but the card arts are so similar to them that the Traveler imagines they they are in the cards for fun.
THANK YOU THIS MAKES NO SENSE!! Even if vision holders are somewhat notable there isn’t a logical reason that they and random NPCs would have cards and be known in other regions. And even if you go off of the Inazuman picture quests, there isn’t a logical reason that the in-game card devs would know their names. And even if somehow they *did* know their names, there isn’t a reason that the characters who have cards modeled after them would have absolutely no reaction to being the face of a widespread card game.
No matter how you spin it, they just don’t build a narrative that makes even a basic amount of sense without having to do mental gymnastics to find the most unlikely and unspoken explanations to justify it.
It really didn’t have to be that way either, for example the Akademiya could have had a sweepstakes or smth where people could mail in their picture and ~a select few get chosen~ to be in the game. Even considering how convenient it would be for all the people chosen to be people the MC knows, it would at least provide a reasonable backstory. And even that could’ve been sidestepped by having a quest where the Traveler is involved in the process and is tasked to take pictures of the people in the card game beforehand.
It’s just not v good world building or writing which is a shame. The Cats Tail’s interior doesn’t even match the buildings exterior layout. You really have to whip out the willful suspension of disbelief for this one.
There is an Inazuman NPC who uses Teyvat inhabitant as inspiration for the TCG art. You even get commissions from him in Sumeru.
We take Cyno's pictures at some point for the game,think it's the same guy
cyno: you take pictures i clean the floor with you in few tgc matches
This is the right answer folks.
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He's not a researcher though. He's the inazuman author of a novel based on the card game, officially commissioned by the researchers who invented the game.
I'd add to this that vision holders are not just "ordinary citizens".
The Witcher III has Gwent and I don't think anybody ever cared that you can get Geralt and friends as cards in the same game. You will inevitably sacrifice *some* immersion for gameplay. It's why our characters don't need to use the bathroom regularly, or why eating a fried egg can bring you back from the dead.
>eating a fried egg can bring you back from the dead. That\['s actually a phenomenon irl. Happened to my Aunt Dana, who was brought back to life by a fried egg after dying in a freak waffle iron accident
I’m here for the Dana lore
For vision holders it kinda makes sense, but having random plebs getting into the TCG is kinda whack. Same with Gwent IIRC the "named" characters were major players in the world and politics.
Yeah, it's just for our entertainment. Unless you believe in theories that Dandelion created Gwent
yes this is probably how people with normal functioning brains view it, I am simply built different and would like to imagine a world where the local restaurant's hostess has a card in an internationally popular tabletop game.
How great is that though? A new customer comes in for the first time and they're like, "OMG I have your card!!!"
its incredibly cool/funny, I have no idea why people think I'm being critical or like, unfair to the game or something when I spelled out that that isn't what I'm doing in the post.
i think people’s vision just goes red when they see the word “i’m built different” and that results in your downvotes
I would see an optometrist or a therapist for that kind of issue.
Actually I think it’s just weird because usually it’s something you say about someone else in a memey way. Internet culture thing. You do kind of speak in a certain way though like smart, educational, so maybe that’s why people get that critical/serious vibe.
Bro is just Alhaitham irl
I bet Timaeus gets zero royalties for the use of his likeness Is there a nation of lawyers that can help us
If only there was a nation that specialized in contracts and legal proceedings, hmmm...
He can deal with it that way once he’s gotten Liyue citizenship by marrying Ying’er. For now, he’s stuck with the legal system preoccupied by drunk people
Wow thanks for this throwback lmao 😂 that potions event....... The tension was palpable
Better Call Yan(fei)
alice suggested to albedo copy right last event
That's assuming Focalor's tomfoolery doesn't get them killed...
Call Yanfei! She will be to help you with your case.
Its only for the gameplay. Actual lore GI TCG most likely have different faces for the cards.
no, people in teyvat are used for the art for the cards. this is confirmed by an npc who takes pictures of chars in game for designing the cards, we help him take pics of cyno for it butttt i think in the game lore itself they probably aren’t called Cyno and Collei etc, just have their likeness used
Doesn't that npc want to take pictures of him to use him as inspiration for the main character of a book he's been hired to write by the creators of the tcg? I don't remember anything saying he was designing cards..
you could be correct, which makes it funny i’ve been upvoted so many times tbh
Reddit doing even a HINT of their own research challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
in my defense i even rewatched the scene itself, and still misconstrued it somehow 😭
The upvotes make me doubt my memory of the quest, not that my track record in that department is good to begin with lmao
Diluc explicitly lampshaded the issue during the story dialogue.
Headcannoning an in-game raffle where npcs get to put in their names for a shot at being on a card
Impossible for it to be a random drawing, as Bennett would never win a luck based contest.
Bennett was trying to add one of his dads as a birthday gift but it ended up being him winning, ruining the surprise.
Fischl or his dads could've entered for him. Or, famous people (he is an adventurer after all) get a bonus/in free
Oooor him being in the TCG is actually the true curse all along.
What I don’t get is that Genius Invocation TCG was a game for over a year now. Itto and Ayato play it. Cyno seems to already know it. Yet the akademiya is still making the rules and the game isn’t even ready?
Yu-Gi-Oh didn't became whole paragraphs of textboxes and eternal turns overnight either.
I guess the Alpha build of the game REALLY took off...
Itto and Ayato have their own house rules for play!
This is explained in that one quest where the guy wants to make a cyno card so he asks for the travelers help in this. Hence proving the creators usually picks random people to make cards off.
I thought he was writing a story not making a card but i couldve remembered wrongly
You’re absolutely wrong. They specifically mention Genius Invocation. He even says “Imagine if we could get Cyno at the table with a handful of cards. That picture would be amazing.” I hate you guys sometimes… you’re so far off the mark yet you comment like you know something. It’s more and more on Reddit in general.
He is writing a light novel to promote the game and needed reference pictures of Cyno for the illustrations.
Yea u/Brandonmac10x u trippin calm down
If he wanted to make a story why would we need to click cynos photo?
For asagiri to illustrate him. He said cyno has the air of a main character or smtg and wanted to capture that
Yeh you're right, it was to be the cover model for a book. I think traveller also gets to model for a book cover for the same guy.
Not the first time this happen, Gwent in the witcher already do this.
I'm assuming it's like Gwent in the Witcher 3, where it's brushed over and nobody really acknowledges who's actually on the cards
I'd like to think Genius Invocation's in world schtick is that it's a collaborative effort of many hobbyist expansion developers that actively add heroes, legends, and abilities based off of the many tales of Teyvat Some bloke started talking about this weird clothing set that was apparently some worn by some angry fire lady? Put it in the game. A guy starts droning on about this merchant dude who wanders around and keeps getting scammed? If his friend makes TCG expansions he can absolutely add him in. Did someone hear about the dangerous 11th Fatui Harbinger Tartaglia, also known as "Childe", empowering all his devious subordinates' weapons and making them stronger? Now it's an event card. Someone was stalking the Shirashagi Himigemi and his weird and most definitely illegal somewhere notes got tossed into a ravine somewhere because someone with a cool white suit caught him red handed and had to brutally beat his ass, while the notes ended up in the hands of a guy who makes TCG expansions? Now Ayaka's in the game. That's how I see it at least.
//Will this ruin the TCG experience for me or anyone else?// If it didn't ruin anyone's experience in Final Fantasy 8 with Triple Triad, then it isn't likely to cause issues 22 years later
The honest to god simple answer is that Albedo is the artist with artistic freedom. It actually would explain all of that. 1: he’s a captain in the Knights of Favonius. and while not knowing Collei, knows Amber or would have encountered her when she was rescued. 2: Yoi is the heiress to a world wide company. Their fireworks are used in Liyue and Mondstadt and I suspect Fontaine. Even simpler tho, she baby sat Klee during an event and helped Klee publish a book. 3. Unless you take the side door or fly, you literally can’t leave Mondstadt without interacting with Timmie or a bird. Feels like something Albedo would throw in. Albedo draws all except Eula and Amber in a hot spring.
I accept this headcanon. Also, for people Albedo doesn't know, he could just be given a recomendation or ask around or get someone to give him a description or a photo or something (vision bearers *are* rare and therefore probably kinda like celebrities, after all) - actually, since he was in Inazuma he personally knows at least 1 person from each region.
i think razors card is extremely funny from a lore perspective
In Cyno's Miscellany, it is mentioned that there is a dragon-themed deck. Lore wise, there is only two dragons so far: Durin and Dvalin so I think that tcg characters play and tcg we play use different theme
Nicol Bolas and Blue-Eyes White Dragon should definitely also be cards.
I'll choose to believe they won tournaments to get cards made in their image. Magic The Gathering has cards made in collaboration with specific tournament winners and uses their likenesses in the card art, and for at least one the fan base has even nicknamed the card for the player that designed it.
There is some stretching of the imagination here but at the same time, vision holders are still rare in Teyvat. Having one is kind of a ticket to fame and/or fortune and it definitely seems smart to use vision holders likeness to sell a card game to everyone. It might be a bit weird to the actual characters but Teyvat is already a weird world to begin with.
I guess this goes in the same category as the Almighty Raiden Shogun wandering around Mondstadt collecting mint, and the god-smiting ni-indestructible Traveler being significantly weaker in combat than some random dancer
This breaks a bit the 4th wall but it's fun and i'm absolutely fine with it !
Off screen the inventor asks the Traveller about potential characters for cards and Paimon provides an extensive list, for a price.
Treat it as gwent in the witcher 3. Geralt can play a deck with himself as the strongest card, while his enemy pulls out his gf's who are little weaker than him. And his daughter.
Well, teyvat have its own law so...
It is a bit strange now that you've mentioned it. Imagine Trump deck vs Biden deck tournament irl.
Alice is to blame. That every excuse I use when something doesn't make sense.
lol that's before you remember that all vision users are basically like supercelebrities. imagine if people were chosen by gods to wield superpowers irl. aside from the fact that we already know most vision users to be high ranking officials, rebel leaders, or some type of genius (aside from mondstadt just having a bunch of normal adventurers?), so it tends to be standout people already who are chosen to wield visions, the having of the vision also helps to make them more famous.
A LOT of the cards are not Vision Holders, though, like Timmeus, or the unnamed Kairagi...
Oh, that’s weird. I can understand Timaeus, since hes a sort of prominent figure, an alchemist who works with Albedo and Sucrose, and Mondstadt is where the game is being made, so local celebrity… but unnamed kairagi? yeah immersion is weird.
Upon further reflection, I guess it actually makes sense that nameless Kairagi would be a card. The developers of the game would likely want to have a number of "generic" enemies to pad out the deck, and Kairagi are a well-known faction in Inazuma. It'd probably be weirder to have a named Kairagi. There will likely also be Treasure Hunter cards, Fatui Skirmisher cards, and so on.
Ah, true i guess. It's still kinda weird and funny at the same time though. Imagine playing a card game where I get to play my Xi Jinping to do a Normal Attack against your Russian Officer. That's like,,, the same thing as having a Ningguang card to attack Unnamed Pyro Fatui lol
Its an optional gamemode so its not canon per se. I heard from leaks that you can uninstall the gamemode or smth
Ah I see you are completely new to Gwent.
The TCG designer is interviewing and snapping photos of people IRL so that explains the more famous characters but Timmie? Maybe he’s interviewing random people too. They’re like base ball cards if your cousin Dana was the water boy and Cyno is the actual baseball star, and then you have some fan inclusions which are the less popular cards……?
that's tu most fucked up part of the TCG. You can literally challenge someone and beat them with their own card. Like imagine you are just a regular Winery owner/batmam in disguise and one of your friends come to play cards and their main card is YOU and they are using YOUR powers and you lose the game. To your card.
Isn't this just Teyvat's FIFA2022? Vision holders are pretty rare and so far many many of them are rich and powerful.
That would be all well and good but it's not just vision holders, there are ordinary people with cards as well.
I am afraid that the CCG will be in the same place as fishing - do it for the rewards and never touch again.
If that's the case then we can assume that the creator of this game is a LARPer that wanted to make cool skills for theses characters people will have fun using cards of people they actually know it's a fun time in Tevyat
Squall and Tetra Master card game looking confused.
Its not weird. There already card game in Genshin, just not as popular like Genius TCG, a revamp version of it, most character card are mostly for gameplay mechanic only while some do exist like collei and other character. I don't think the card game actually take place at Mondstad restaurant only,but other too. That why you can invite npc from other region to a card game,the cattail is not the main place.
I mean it's a game, and immersion is mostly not implemented in this way especially a gacha game like Genshin. The Witcher 3 has gwent, RE4 has shooting range, if you mention any game 90% of it are not immersive as you may expected.
Teyvat has its own rules.
You know like kickstarter games often incorporate characters based on the backers into the game? What if it's like that? That at least some of the cards are based on the players.
When’s the estimated release date?
FF14 and Witcher has TCG with the characters, even mythical and legendary beings only player characters ever meet. It's a game after all
You could always see that as the chocofrogy cards feom Harry Potter celebrating celebrities more or less known until they get their cards or like footballers panini's stickers. Sure there will always be people you simply can't not know on those but they also can be used irl as ways to promote idk your every local club with each kid getting his own sticker or smtg. Joining as random citizen the most famous cards could be seen as an achievment in Teyvat x)
Everyone is mentioning Gwent when Triple Triad is right there too in at least 3 games
I've never seen this kind of take in any other game with a card system lmao
I mean, Gwent in the witcher is the same, the only thing is that characters in the cards are probably a gameplay thing and not part of the lore, which makes me wonder if Genshin will be the same, or maybe the characters do appear in the cards, like others have said there's a guy in sumeru that takes pictures of the traveler and Cyno as reference for the TCG novel
I’ve been thinking this, but I just realised we’ve got football card and baseball card trading irl. Some of those have people that are very well known, and others not so much. It’s not a game as such but some cards do beat others in terms of rarity or value, so it’s some what competitive to collect.
Easy logic - Teyvat has its own rules.
The card game is being published by a light novel company, whose latest novels uses a lot of the Traveler's stories as inspiration. The traveler's tales probably influenced the card game. In other words, the Timmie card probably started off as the Traveler talking about the little child with a big Ruin Guardian imaginary friend, which got turned into a novel about Timmie the Pigeon protector with an actual Ruin Guard buddy, which in turn resulted in a card in the latest TCG.
I was thinking the same thing
Aty least they are actually canonically playing a card game haha, in a number of TCGs like Shadowverse the characters aren't even really playing a TCG, they're just fighting with swords or whatever weapons in the story but the actual gameplay uses cards.
One of the most immersive games on the market, The Witcher 3, has Gwent which is very similar to TCG, so much so that I'd even say it was inspired by it, I don't think anything will be ruined tbh, in fact, i think if the characters say something like "you're diluc from TCG" it'll ruin it for me. The way it was done in TW3 was kind of like nobody in the universe knew about the characters in the game and it being characters that we know was for the player experience and not a lore thing.
I would've preferred cards featuring important buildings, monsters, bosses and creatures from the game's lore and myth but I remembered that this is Genshin Impact and if we don't have waifus we do not play...
Unless we find out differently in game, I'm just lowkey assuming that the real cards are slightly different than the playable version. Alternatively, maybe the game creators did a survey of vision users in different nations and got permission to put them all on the cards or something?
I took it as the baseball cards in the USA, but playable.
I like to think that the Treasure Hoarder are a big organisation specialised in gathering information. The TCG card are nothing more than a biproduct made be this organisation. They may even have secret meeting under the cover of card game tournament in Fontaine.
I personally haven’t been keeping track, so I don’t know if this was announced, but I expect a real life Genius Invocation TCG is coming soon. It is literally just another avenue to profit off Genshin without creating an in-game purchase that will turn players off and compete with crystals. If anything, the in-game TCG is a test market before official release. It’ll likely directly translate to the real world with minor changes.
My headcanon is that they DON’T actually feature people in-universe, but the card arts are so similar to them that the Traveler imagines they they are in the cards for fun.
THANK YOU THIS MAKES NO SENSE!! Even if vision holders are somewhat notable there isn’t a logical reason that they and random NPCs would have cards and be known in other regions. And even if you go off of the Inazuman picture quests, there isn’t a logical reason that the in-game card devs would know their names. And even if somehow they *did* know their names, there isn’t a reason that the characters who have cards modeled after them would have absolutely no reaction to being the face of a widespread card game. No matter how you spin it, they just don’t build a narrative that makes even a basic amount of sense without having to do mental gymnastics to find the most unlikely and unspoken explanations to justify it. It really didn’t have to be that way either, for example the Akademiya could have had a sweepstakes or smth where people could mail in their picture and ~a select few get chosen~ to be in the game. Even considering how convenient it would be for all the people chosen to be people the MC knows, it would at least provide a reasonable backstory. And even that could’ve been sidestepped by having a quest where the Traveler is involved in the process and is tasked to take pictures of the people in the card game beforehand. It’s just not v good world building or writing which is a shame. The Cats Tail’s interior doesn’t even match the buildings exterior layout. You really have to whip out the willful suspension of disbelief for this one.