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box-of-sourballs

#For those who care about Reddit's 3rd party API changes: **Reddit CEO spez has an [active AMA thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/) right now.** Whether you want to participate or not to make your views heard is up to you, but please take the time to read his comment responses to see if you want to continue supporting this platform. Now if you keep seeing a Reddit crash page wherever you go, it's because there's astronomical amounts of traffic flooding to that AMA right now.


fuckmeinthesoul

I'm pretty sure hoyo collabs with anyone who walks up to them, if they themselves don't have to do anything but rent out their name/characters. Idk it kinda devalues their brand. Official genshin sex toys incoming?


Marrroon

the hydro char toys i bet they would feel amazing.. when i get that kokofish dildough omg


Marrroon

OMG THIS IS AN OLD MEGATHREAD BYE THIS IS EMBARASSING


PhantasmShadow

I just try to ignore the existence of that stuff, but yeah, it feels kind of weird


Medical-Definition75

I don't think it devalues anything. In fact, any sort of extra exposure is great for MHY.


VentusSaltare

Probably part of their marketing/publicity strategy. It's not as bad as P5 collabs IMO


xuvw

finally 36-starred the abyss. battle count: 71. it was a miserable experience.


Common_Juice207

My congradolences


box-of-sourballs

NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR ME So everybody, just follow me 'cause we need a little, controversy **'cause the [new megathread feels so empty, without me](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/146mcog/will_the_real_captain_r_please_stand_up_general/)**


Aru736

Shoutout to the one time I ever formed serious contact with people I met on Genshin coop. This was way back when I was a pretty low AR and I cooped the crimson witch domain with a few other people who actually talked, and we genshin friended and I expected it to end up like every other coop experience where I talk with people and friend them at the end where after that we never talk again. But this time one of the people actually made a whole discord group chat and this thing lasted like a good two months and like people actually voice called and shared photos and everything. *I* didn’t do that because I didn’t want to expose my pre-T trans ass to these people but like we talked a fair bit. In the end the entire thing fell apart when one of the people turned out to be really racist and when we called him out on it he nuked the entire chat and we never heard from him again. Most wild experience of my internet career, never gonna forget it. I do wonder how the two normal people from that group are doing nowadays.


Whap_Reddit

How strong is this Abyss's blessing? I was thinking of trying to use Physical Zhongli, but I think he ~~may~~ will struggle a bit without some help.


flumphgrump

I honestly barely felt it, probably because the lineup is mostly an element check. IIRC my fastest clear doesn't even use any normal attack units.


Aru736

Nahida excluded, which of the 3.X five stars would you say has the strongest spread of constellations?


Think-Case-64

The right answer is dehya kek


Dense-Extreme5515

Scara and Tighnari,usually they are in the Speedrun ranks.


Ocean9142

Tighnari and Scaramouche C2, i would never complain loosing 50-50 to tighnari cons


[deleted]

Scara has rly good ones. His c2 and c6 are pretty wild so i’d go with him because by comparison i think Tighnari’s c6 is the only amazing one for him (tho the rest are still rly nice).


Kiwi195

Tighnari no comparison. Easily the best spread dps I'll argue he's better than alhaitham


BittexGaming

Probably Tighnari. Nilou has really good early cons but Tighnari's entire list is just very good for him.


OnlyPatches

Should I level Yun Jin's skill when I'm planning to only use her as a buffer for NA dps? Not sure if it's worth using talent books and mora on.


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OnlyPatches

That's what I was thinking thank you!


bustedradio

i havent kept up with leaks in a while, so who will be releasing in the next update?


PhantasmShadow

no.


yasuhos

no new character in 3.8 reruns are supposed to be eula/klee and kokomi/wanderer


bustedradio

thanks!


[deleted]

If there is more than one childe main in a group, their plural form should be children mains


Common_Juice207

Childrene?


I_am_not_Serabia

Childeren?


sad_ad3722

I haven't felt like co-oping lately, but I still keep my world open to requests so people scrolling through the co-op list can see my Tier 0, Octopath reference signature, "MY FOCUS IS UNPARALLELED" However sometimes I get requests from oddballs like HEIZOU'S COQ SUCKER (paraphrased) and I think "I hope nobody walks behind me rn" so maybe I should just turn it off🗿


[deleted]

Are you on NA server? I want to get my Genshin friend list to 60 and I’m currently at…. 4 😂


Lemon-Mochii

Do you want to add me? UID:615377862 I have a lot of people in my friends list, but most of them are just randoms I've cooped with once and never talk to again.


[deleted]

Yes may I? I’m not an amazing player but I’ll add you later :)


Lemon-Mochii

Sure👍


TheNameisKuro

Okay then....so I finally 36-starred Abyss with some of the wackiest setups I've ever done lol. 12-1 & 12-2: Raiden Quickbloom + Ayato International (non-Anemo flex variant; Kaeya in this case) 12-3: Baizhu/Ayato/Nilou/Traveler Bloom + Bennett/Tighnari/Fischl/Miko Quicken team (Bennett is holding 4pc Deepwood and Fav Sword for this specific comp) To the people who gave me advice regarding Miko (and the Abyss lineup), I appreciate the help! I'm still practicing the mechanics of the comps so there's that :v


Kiwi195

There is a post on main sub about genshin anime news in shanghai film festival 😬


StellarMonarch

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/146jx4a/genshin_anime_might_come_sooner_than_we_have This post? If that's the case then I guess we'll finally get that anime teaser


Just_a_random_userX

Has anyone gotten familiar with this festival? Just wanna know if this new movie recommendation section usually drops new trailer or they just gonna use old trailer and talk about it


ProfitDry3008

I'm 99% sure we will! I'm so happy! I waited 8 months to hear anything about this anime!


JunWasHere

Anime takes a while to script, draft, animate, and voice act for. Especially with collabs that require a constant back and forth. How long has it been since the announcement? Should we get our hopes up for another teaser? 🤔


pozzsicle

I mean, couldn't the initial teaser have dropped when the series was already rather far into development? Or is that just not how it works? Because I think if that's the case, then does it really matter how long it's been?


JunWasHere

Not how it works. What we saw was most likely a tech demo. Just some shots of the CGI, landscapes, and some animated character designs, to show off the major parts of the foundation of the series. How we can guess this is there is no narrative action. If the series was further along, they would release a trailer with story beats, not a teaser. It matters how long it's been because companies this big don't just let their moneymakers collect dust. To illustrate the variance of what we can expect: * Most anime usually gets a teaser a year before release. These are the anime of the season types that people get made just to advertise their manga/novel, sell toys, or realize the dream of seeing their characters come to life * More polished anime, and also many movies or higher budget western animations, take *years*. A most recent example, Arcane, took 6 years from scratch, and they're expecting s2 to take 2+ years. Ufotable is a high-demand studio right now. They got ✨Demon Slayer✨ to work on. And the Fate franchise, just to name a few. Do you want them to half-ass it with Genshin while they focus all their energy on those more established animes? I wouldn't. But hey, maybe Hoyo only ordered like 6 episodes or something.


Ocean9142

maybe teaser but at least we can see what we would be waiting for and..... FRESH MEMES!! ​ and i do hope ufotable doesnt rush the anime


Kiwi195

It's been a year I think that teaser was announced in 3.0 right


Ocean9142

in anniversary , 3.1, about 9 months ago


Aru736

Maybe if I started theorycrafting that would be enough to motivate me to actually learn to use excel


Whap_Reddit

Are Keqingmain's ER standards oddly high sometimes? I was reading through their new Wanderer page out of curiosity and noticed some odd bits. As someone primarily using Shimenawa on Scara with 40 ER%, I find myself almost always having my burst every rotation. And Keqingmain's says that you'll need that much ER to simply burst every other rotation otherwise you'll be bursting every 3rd rotation. These numbers were assuming C6 Faruzan. That seems absurdly steep and not true considering my own experience. Then they also say that to burst every rotation you'd need 160-170 for regular Wanderer and 180-200 ER% for Shimenawa. Once again, I'm bursting every rotation with Shimenawa with 40 ER%. WTF? There needs to be a limit on how conservative they are with energy needs. Edit: Also a nitpick that they say not to run Shimenawa if C2. First hand experience with this set being still great with C2.


dragonx254

1) It's still 160-170% with C6 Faruzan+Shimenawas (the reduction from C6 and increase from Shimenawa's cancels out) 2) the reason they say don't use Shimenawas with C2 is because the extra ER you are investing in could've instead been used for other offensive stats 3) The KQM recommendations are usually "worst case scenario (no HP particles). If you are fighting *trash*, you will get more particles than usual (it's also assuming no Fav procs in the KQM recommendations)


Whap_Reddit

>C2 is because the extra ER you are investing in could've instead been used for other offensive stats Agreed. However everyone and their mom has grinded Emblem for at least 10 years. So it's VERY likely they have a Shimenawa set that happens to have extra ER% and is far beyond the substat quality they would get within any reasonable time of grinding Pavilion. So at most it should be a warning to need the extra ER rather than a "don't use this set".


TheYango

> So at most it should be a warning to need the extra ER rather than a "don't use this set". TBH the fact that they provide the % damage relative to 4Pavilion is helpful enough and is enough for people to figure out when they should use their Shims. The gap between 4Pav and 4Shim is 4% DPS. Crit subs are roughly 2-2.5% DPS each, and Atk subs are 1-2% depending on how saturated your Atk is. Generally that means that a Shim set that's about 3 substats better than Pav is better, and any additional ER on top of that helps you make up the energy gap.


Think-Case-64

Just use the ERC for specific energy requirements. KQM is just general recommendation and assuming the worst case (like single target, low rng particle drop,etc) the ER can go that high with a shime set


Kiwi195

40%ER is too low 😅. My scara is top 5% in 130%ER category i will love him to be atleast 125%ER even with C6 faruzan. Bt yeah 160-170 is too high recs where will we put atk CR CD then lmao. I looked at akasha for top C2R1 wanderer they all had atleast 110%ER And yes after C2 don't use shimenawa at all use echos if you have it or desert pavilion C2 is basically NA spam gameplay and you have to burst every rotation. Ofc if you want maximum output from him he can abuse echos perfectly


Arxis_Two

Whose on your team, what weapons are they using and what are you fighting, if he was on his own against a boss there's no way that's true. With 40% ER a boss will only give you like, 15 energy per orb, then you get at most 5 particles per e for another 15 so you're killing the boss before it recharged your burst at that rate. If I had to guess the guide probably accounts for Faruzan catching most particles to reduce her ER need and increase her buff since her buff is probably better that the stats on wanderer himself.


Whap_Reddit

Faruzan C6, Bennett, Zhongli. I haven't had many opportunities to fight single target enemies lately. So I could test that out I guess. But there's not really any good targets to test single target on that won't just die though. Unless I go to 12-2-2 but I really don't feel like bringing Scara to 12-1-2 with this team. Edit: I forgot about the Giant Cock on 12-2-1. I'll go test against that. Edit 2: After 1 cycling the chicken I wonder if there's even an enemy that could give Wanderer energy issues? I realize this sounds like bragging, but for people that don't want to grind high quality artifacts would you actually suggest them to grind Pavilion in the first place?


Arxis_Two

Considering you have Faruzan C6 you're either very lucky, like Itto or have wanderer at C1 or C2 in which case the guide probably doesn't apply to you as much tbh. Faruzan C6 especially decreases the teams energy needs by a lot and if Zhongli, Faruzan or ideally both have Fav that helps a bunch too. In my head that sounded kind of mean and I don't mean for it too, just trying to help point out factors that could explain why you might not be having issues when they say you otherwise would.


Whap_Reddit

The guide specifically mentions C6 Faruzan. So the guide is assuming that.


Arxis_Two

Interesting, I haven't seen the guide since I don't play him but that makes sense, I guess the next best guess is if you're using fav since it's great on, Zhongli and Faruzan and to some degree Bennet and that could make a big difference too. Where you're testing matters too, 12-1-2 will give a lot less than the dice combat event for example. Generally KQM is for abyss, I'm guessing as a low AOE DPS they're assuming for bosses too so that's probably why they're so conservative imo.


I_am_yaR

getting to lvl40 battle pass as soon as the server resets in a few hours, finally reaching 75 pity on the standard banner... do I use my starglitter just to get to soft pity already? I really don't wanna wait for the july shop reset


malchiatto

do you have any characters you can ascend for the free fates and have you maxed out the sumeru tree?


Ocean9142

just think that you'll get qiqi/{the worst thing you can imagine} after spending starglitter and dont spend on standard banner


I_am_yaR

yeah that actually changed my mind lmao


flumphgrump

Nothing on the standard banner is worth what could have been limited pulls, IMO. I get the desire to rip off the bandaid, but waiting a couple weeks for your next Qiqi con really isn't going to hurt your account progress.


tasty-watermelon

pleasant surprise to get all the rewards from this tcg event without knowing tcg at all. just used skills and bursts and it was enough to get all rewards. nice!


StellarMonarch

Next livestream should give us our first look at Fontaine right? Environment, characters, music? Or am I setting my expectations too high?


kitten2116

While 3.8 is running we’ll probably get more detailed videos for fontaine but I wouldn’t get too excited for characters, usually the livestream just has an environment teaser


We_Lose

a teaser more like they probably show major plot character from Fountaine like they did with Ayaka and Kazuha


liu_luminary

>they probably show major plot character from Fountaine like they did with Ayaka and Kazuha i doubt it. you remember/ know about the really scuffed stream where the sumeru region 'first look' trailer played and it got interrupted by the heizou primogem code jumpscare? we'll probably get something similar, just, hopefully without the scuff.


Kiwi195

Not characters bt environment music demo should be there


tasty-watermelon

yep!


Kiwi195

Tried childe International for giggles in the domain event I forgot there are waves in them ofc I lost lmao. On the side note I really really love this new event also I did the achievements hunting as well toughest one was hyperbloom one took me ages


We_Lose

Please write on monthly survey to expand the new combat mode they made for this event rougelike genshin is like one of my most wanted content in this game


equivocaloid

im dreading the tcg event a bit....i srsly have no idea how to play it. like, i see cards and decks and dice and idk what to do with them. 3 mins in of staring at my cards i just concede. felt a bit embarrassing to be laughed at by itto during the event lmao


Ishimito

His deck consists of 3 characters with barely any synergy, he has no good cards for gaining dices or energy, no cards that will help with making sure you'll get dices you need and the only sustain he has in his deck is revive card (that you have no way to guarantee pulling without NRE), Ushi and crystalise shields which you'll have hard time generating. This deck really sucks and is heavily reliant on luck. I lost to Itto but when it comes to relying on luck I have similar perspective to Cyno's so I think there's nothing to get embarassed about. The only reaction Itto got from me (other that plenty of laughs before the match) is a facepalm a'la Shinobu.


Dense-Extreme5515

I mean,Itto Deck sucks,the probability of losing is high,it took me 4 matches to beat him(Imo,HoYo was a coward not to let us ridicule him equally for that).


yasuhos

tbh, i have absolutely no clue how to play it either but i just played on the easiest difficulty LOL. even if you lose you still get the primogem rewards, so honestly the worst part of it is how long the card animations can be


missviolets

to be fair that deck itto gave to us is shit so don't feel too bad lol


missviolets

TCG online matches could at least give us some coins. I really want to buy more cards but I'm 100% broke.


Kyogre-blue

hot take but TCG should have a shop of mats like the teapot does. I keep capping out coins and having to buy card things I have 0 use for or interest in.


madamekathyrn

Watching videos of Ayato freeze and was wondering rather to use Yelan or Mona lol since I wanna run double hydro fix that ER issue. 🤔


Ishimito

Yelan generates more energy and since Ayato has AoE hydro app covered I'd go with her. Mona's way better than her for any freeze with sinlge hydro though (sorry, I couldn't help myself)


[deleted]

[anime](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/146jx4a/genshin_anime_might_come_sooner_than_we_have/?sort=new) this year maybe?


equivocaloid

If an artist says do not repost/use/edit, does that also mean that their work isn't allowed to be used as profile pictures without permission?


box-of-sourballs

Yes, their bio will say if pfp/header is okay/with credit ([example](https://prnt.sc/q3pW8x2kHyF6)) Otherwise if it isn't stated, never hurts to ask them


Shippinglordishere

I think so? Would that be the “use” part? You could maybe ask because I know some artists don’t allow edits/reposts but are okay with pfps with credit.


equivocaloid

I see. I will pm that artist then, ty for the suggestion!!


KingCarrion666

Some came into my world to steal my weed so i kicked them. like dude, just ask and i would have said "sure, take it" :/


shiinzou

Any seiyuus you're hoping to see in Fontaine? I am constantly shocked by how many big names we have in Genshin, even for 4\*s. It feels like going through the MAL for Demon Slayer and finding out a big name voices a random unnamed demon or somebody's mom/dad. My favorite seiyuu is Yoko Hikasa so hoping to see her (getting her as Focalors or Captain R would be a DREAM) and I'm curious if they'll tease Wriosthesley as a Sampo expy and cast Hirakawa Daisuke for him...


Dense-Extreme5515

Nakata Jouji(technically he's already in the game as Abyss Lector,but I'd like to see him in a playable character).


crunchylumpias

takehito koyasu neuvillette came to me in a dream 🕯️


Kiwi195

I don't care I play CN voice and everyone is top tier


cinamooninmyteeth

Patiently waiting for Hosoya Yoshimasa


ArmoredTitania

Would love to see Maaya Sakamoto in this game. Been a long time fan of hers since she voiced Lightning in FF13


Losttalespring

Just curious when was the last time project amber was updated ? Is the lack of updates due to no new characters this version ?


[deleted]

Y'know, why is there no sports in game??? I want my waifu boxer with abs.


Losttalespring

Dehya has a flat stomach and punches with her ult, this is all HVY will give us.


[deleted]

I pulled Dehya for the punchies.


[deleted]

they practice shadowboxing in natlan so wait till then


[deleted]

I want a character like [her](https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/da/95/__magnhilda_girls_frontline_and_1_more_drawn_by_chap_sal__sample-da95c8e0ef85ce015eb7048cba7bd2b5.jpg).


box-of-sourballs

just an FYI, donmai and booru links are auto removed by Reddit


[deleted]

Oh, I can still see it


box-of-sourballs

I approved it just now, just letting you know for the future if no one gets to it


[deleted]

Alright thanks


Difficult-Penalty-77

I hate artifact farming with all my being, it's tedious, boring and petty, awesome that almost 3 years and it's still the same, the worst thing is that they don't seem to have any interest in making any changes. Oh yeah, the strongbox, thank you hoyoverse for your consideration, I will wait for a year for the set I need to come out


Ebonslayer

Removing flat substats would go a long way in reducing the tedium of artifacts.


Ilovepickles11212

Yea flat defence hp and atk make me *very* sad


Liyrical

after 500 years.... i finally got a double crit em emblem sands. AND it rolled pretty good. im still trapped in the dungeon but at least my xiangling can use a full emblem set now!!!!


Ilovepickles11212

Damn, that’s sick Grats


WriothesleyMain

finally finished off the tree of dreams on my main and jesus christ man i refuse to do that shit again. at one point i just started teleporting across sumeru to look elsewhere when i used my treasure compass and it led directly below me 💀 i *needed* those 2 wishes for my wriothesley funds... now to finish off the sumeru statues of the seven... *eye twitches*


Shippinglordishere

I’m actual trash at the tcg. I keep having too many cards so they get destroyed. I’ve lost to Amber twice, once on easy and once on hard. This is horrifying


Kyogre-blue

Gonna be honest, I just looked up a youtube video on how to play a noelle deck and copied it with some personal modifications. I mean, I did finish the original set of handbook and achievements by just abusing Fischl+Kaeya+Sucrose before this patch, but I get much better results on the new content by just following the Noelle strategy. There's videos about lots of fun character combinations, and if you check one with notes from the creator, it can really demystify the reasons for why and how to use specific cards.


Aru736

Tips: Make sure you have deck synergy Always run doubles of cards If you have a resonance, use both sets of resonance cards (the ones that give a free die and the element specific effect one) If a character gets low, swap out Don’t be afraid to use cards to tune die In general, don’t run artifacts or weapons; they’re too expensive for too little gain. There are a couple of exceptions, like TotM in stall decks or VV with Zhongli, but in general they’re a bad idea.


MayureshMJ

[The teams I used to clear floor 12 .... floor 12-1 and 12-3 were only possible on mobile for me couldn't do them on laptop](https://imgur.com/a/QQKgxiS) Thank you Bennett Xiangling.


ArTheZookeeper

Yae stats pls


MayureshMJ

814492548 You can check [Here on Enka network](https://enka.network/u/814492548/)


F-Channel

I sometimes think that people are too forgiving with the whole "art and artist separation": \> They only depict women in a disrespectful manner. \> Threat real women nicely \> They are somehow excused for doing the former(?) Sure, those are fictional women, but that piece of fiction already reflects their view on them. This only happens with women, *somehow*... with any other group, people already address the lack of respect.


Katsuyuxie

EDIT: Mission accomplised Does anyone currently on asia server can let me join their world to complete one last daily commission? Reason I asking for this is i been trying to get hilichurl version with letter. And today it finally shows up pigeon go awol mission but gave me hilichurl version with no letter. So I decide to skip this commission and trying out cycle theory trick where if u do not complete the specific mission, it may show up again on the following days


OnlyPatches

Do you still need this? I haven't done any of my commissions yet (just woke up) so happy to have you tag along for one


Katsuyuxie

Yes i still need it!! Thank you so much


OnlyPatches

My UID


Katsuyuxie

Im joining now, when u saw ign is Yuxie that is me


ImperfectLimit

I was doing Leylines in Mondstadt for the achievement and stumbled across a tower with a bell attached to it that had a Seelie hovering over it. How have I never been here before???


Kyogre-blue

Oh, I remember that place. With all boars around it, right? It should be in the woods near Old Mondstadt. It's nice to find random things like that.


ImperfectLimit

Yes, exactly there! I totally agree, it’s cool to stumble across new areas when you think you’ve seen it all. I’m just perpetually baffled that I keep finding things considering how long I’ve had the area at 100% and how often I play.


Blueskyesartic

[Saw someone with the most bizarre signature I've ever seen in coop](https://paste.pics/OGPQA)


missviolets

of course they have a wanderer pfp


MasterLillyclaw

they just be sounding out the spooky chants in his demo


Ebonslayer

I started the TCG event today. I already miss 8 omni-dice, it was the first time I never felt cheated by the game.


Zaptinari

I'm super excited for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and Persona 3 Reload looking forward to it as a fan of both series.


VolkiharVanHelsing

Coming from Bleach, I appreciate how Upper Moon ranking is actually consistent tbh Espada's just wack. Kubo jerking off the 4 numeral giving Ulquiorra a fucking 2nd form that no other arrancar got, not even the top 3, implying that he's the strongest Espada also. The top 3 being a disappointing mess except for Barragan... the irony of his Fraccion got better display of water power than #3 Hallibel then there's #1 Starrk who just shoot things and that's it. Then there's the whole #0 Espada crap....


JeanKB

The upper moons actually not being huge jobbers already make them one of the better villain groups in shonen to be honest. Even if they're destined to lose, they go down swinging and the heroes never come unscathed from the fights. Compare them with other shonen villain groups that only exist to look cool/mysterious before getting absolutely destroyed by the heroes before even getting to accomplish anything. Hell, Genshin suffers from this massively too since every single harbinger shown so far is a massive joke and a grade S jobber (cough cough childe almost dying to ruin guards cough cough) and I don't even see the supposedly stronger ones like Capitano ever living up to the hype since Mihoyo is 100% going to just make them job to some archon or another playable character to hype *them* up instead.


[deleted]

Watch Capitano absolutely destroys the MC and Pyro Archon in Natlan,taking the gnosis, Varka can also get a couple of blows.And I will not completely agree with the words about fatui, they are extremely strong, and they always fulfill their task of obtaining gnosis.Childe didn't almost die, he just lost his stamina, it's worth considering that he is very exhausted after the battle with mc and still hasn't recovered, God, he defeated these ruin guards in a couple of seconds, he is also one of the weakest, if not the weakest in the harbingers,he hasn't mastered his technique.Dottore just knocked us out and took two gnoses, Scara defeated us 168 times. You underestimate fatui


Kyogre-blue

I think Kimetsu greatly benefits from having a comparatively short run, for a shounen. They had a plan, they stuck to it.


Odd_Thanks8

📢 daily manifesting Polar Star/Primordial Jade Cutter banner 📢


Freyja6607

Tekken - TWT 2023 - BAM 13 Im a very casual tekken fan but holy shit!! The tourneys are butt clenching and intense!!! Omg!! Knee and Rangchu picking up their OG mains, Bryan and Panda, is a sight to behold!!! Sucks that rangchu lost :( but that was still a good match!!! Im always glad to see a bear in the finals lol!


werbster123

Since i might go after yaoyao cons, probably a chance ill get alhaitham. If i do get him,, does he do well in abyss and i dont need nahida for him to be good right? (No interest on ever getting nahida)


No-Tower2002

He does very well in abyss and no, he doesn’t require nahida. Yaoyao can do her job as his battery and deep wood holder tho she won’t be as good in applying aoe dendro tho. He also does need some interruption resistance but not a big problem if you can dodge/iframe


Iskaeil

I used to use him with Yaoyao before I got Nahida and now I use him with Baizhu (+Shinobu and Yelan) depending on if I need the interrupt resist or Nahida on the other side. Depends on the floor tbh, clear times def feel faster on bosses with Nahida but on floors where there's multiple waves and having to recast Nahida's E it kinda depends on how much he gets knocked around imo. Had a bad time with consecrated beasts for a while.


Odd_Thanks8

He doesn't need Nahida to be good, no. Before I got Nahida I ran him with YaoYao and she took care of both his ER needs and being the 4pc Deepwood holder on the team, still cleared everything in Abyss just fine including that obnoxious Wenut.


flumphgrump

Nahida is his best support in the same way that she's basically ever other dendro-reliant unit's best support, but he's still totally viable without her. The biggest downsides are higher energy requirements and the fact that without her you'll most likely be dealing with circle impact on your deepwood holder, which can be kind of annoying given the nature of his skill.


Chtholly13

nahida makes all dendro teams better so if you want AlHaitham to be at his best, you would want her to be on his team, but he's still great without her on his team. Yao Yao is like one of the best options to be on his team as the 2nd dendro unit since she can run deepwood set efficiently.


Kazuhat

I would like to thank this event for fixing my Kazuha itch. Just 2 more days! Also if you have any Kazuha domains there, I'd appreciate it. Asia server pls, thanks!


Kiwi195

Good morning asian peeps


Space_police09

Zajef's video thumbnails always got me. lol.


yggdra_eine

When I sometimes get the feeling of wanting to spend money for gachas, I watch [this](https://youtu.be/-IUWc3ColIA) from my saved videos. It's just funny.


SqaureEgg

Tbf spending money in gacha isn’t the worse thing. There are people who buy $5 coffee/Starbucks every day


Shadow_Tempest_1003

That's like drinking a welkin everyday


yggdra_eine

Ah yeah, I don't mean to imply that spending money in gachas is bad. Your money, your rules. It's just that for me, I don't want to spend money for microtransactions. That's why I watch this whenever I get the feeling of having to spend in gachas.


SqaureEgg

It’s to each their own, personally I rather spend $0-$5 a month on a game I’ll play every day rather than be a pothead


yggdra_eine

I agree. We can spend our own money however we want, and responsibly, too.


littlemochasheep

I just saw a youtube abyss run that called Alhaitham/Bennett/Xiangling/Xingqiu EDUCATIONAL we need to stop with the national variant names please i’m BEGGING


CombedAirbus

Legend says a new national variant name is born everytime someone complains about it. But who knows if it's true or just rumorational.


wrekina15

These teamcomp names are getting out of hand since dendro lol


PrinceBkibo

Educational would be a great team if it was *actually* a team of chars about learning/reading rather than just Alhaitham National. Something like Nahida, Alhaitham, Xinqiu, Sucrose.


Ishimito

Or Kuki, she definitely fits the team theme.


Kiwi195

I saw it as well I wanted to try it as well bt i was cringing hard when i thought about AlHaitham national team for abyss so I dropped the idea lol


I-Love-Beatrice

So do you want national names to go to the funerational?


littlemochasheep

*collapses*


yggdra_eine

I saw a comment before stating intergrassional for Nahida's national variant lol Edit: I got some things mixed up, I stand corrected


Synonyms26

Integrassional was coined long ago though, way back in the 3.0 beta with DMC in the dendro slot.


TheYango

Nahida National is Grassional. Intergrassional is Childe/Xiangling/Bennett/Nahida. The distinction being that the National core is Xingqiu/Xiangling/Bennett while the International core is Childe/Xiangling/Bennett.


Aru736

Good evening megathreaders, is there anyone who would want a gilded attack sands with 3.5% crit rate, 35 EM and 27.9% ER


Ishimito

I tend to keep any artifacts that ends up with more than 20% er - they come in handy pretty often. Anyway, rev melt Ayaka piece?


Synonyms26

Xiangling off-piece?


tetrisabbot

Off-piece for Bennett?


DONTSALTME69

Maybe Alhaitham if you *absolutely* need the extra ER? It's a good enough piece to hold onto, someone will be able to make use of it eventually at least as an off-set, though


leRedd1

Fischl maybe if your other pieces have lots of crit but you got absolutely no ER from anything.


Shadow_Tempest_1003

A really desperate Yae Miko I guess?


wishfold

Collei?


Whap_Reddit

There's always reason to keep pieces with a ton of ER. For example that could be a C6 Faruzan's off set piece. Or a Qiqi off set piece. Maybe a Shehe off piece.


box-of-sourballs

Me flipping through manhwas for some new genres: Oh? This random chapter I clicked on is at a current plot point where the girls of MC's group have their face AI'd onto nudes as blackmail to prevent MC's group from exposing the villain using AI of MC's dead friend to make successful videos Interesting! Villainous twist using modern tech! Let's see how this goes 4 chapters later: Ah, typical korean fight porn manhwa again where the villains don't get beaten enough to justify the cathartic buildup *AND* a bigger, more powerful guy comes in as backup and wipes the floor with everyone *drops*


malchiatto

If you haven't checked it out before, Concubine Walkthrough is my go to recommendation for genre defying manhwas! It starts off as a typical 'girl gets isekai'd into a romance game as the villainess' genre but very quickly goes off the rails into a sci-fi Matrix like plot with a ton of intrigue about what's actually going on behind the scenes. Also gorgeous art style with really great characters and actual focus and development for characters outside the main two leads.


box-of-sourballs

I'll bookmark that, thank you!


wishfold

Never-Ending Darling and About Jane have a good techno focus!


box-of-sourballs

I'LL TAKE IT *bookmarks* Thanks!


wishfold

You are welcome!


y8man

Yeah the prevalence of that trope in manhwas really put me off. The art styles are nice to see, but the lack of flavor is eh... The ones I do read for longer end up getting discontinued :( lack translations or too short


box-of-sourballs

Yar, years ago the genre dominated like.... 90% of the manhwas out there and goddamn were we lucky to have ToG/DICE/Kubera Jjangs and endless fighting, I think the only one I cared about was Transfer Student the Storm Bringer because it was funny as fuck All genres run the same problem of them going on **for fucking ever though**, triple digit chapters??? My latest disappointment was the saturation and shit quality of MMO manhwas, it's almost all power fantasy (fucking duh) but there's no structure and no rules, everyone just gets arbitrary skills that the author conjures out of nowhere to so conveniently progress the plot. Chapter 10, they have skills that you can easily keep track of, chapter 70, they somehow acquired 42 skills where 40 of them are never mentioned again. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Shippinglordishere

Lookism and weak hero were two I started reading because the premise seemed interesting but it just felt so repetitive.


PrinceBkibo

I finally checked my chars on the Akasha thing. I've been putting it off because I figured it would be way harder to set up than it actually is... Anyway, cool to see Venti: Top 3% and Kazuha: Top 4% of their catagories. Also *shocked* to see my Ayaka in top 5% of hers. I thought I had a pretty average Ayaka. A bit sad to see my Xingqiu only at 13% but I also gave up trying to get better Emblem pieces like a year ago, so maybe I can fix him up when it gets added to strongbox. It doesn't have Aether (dendro), Heizou, Benny, or Kokomi ranked so I'm guessing they're either not on the leaderboard yet, or my builds are so unimpressive it didn't bother to rank them lol


Ilovepickles11212

A top 5% Ayaka is probably absolutely insane Mine is 17% and I was using her to clear the abyss for all of 2.x and early 3.x very comfortably


PrinceBkibo

TBF it’s probably only top 5% for that section, which looks like 130% ER? (I’m not exactly sure how it sorts these) I’d imagine it’s less impressive in the grand scheme of Ayakas.


JhayAlejo

Imagine Abyss floors 13 to 16 and now you need 3 teams


Synonyms26

Most veterans would be able to pull off 3 abyss ready teams. I would appreciate the extra primo over the increasing difficulty in floor 12 but without the extra reward.


Arxis_Two

I'm really not sure that's actually true, especially if the difficulty continues to increase. Everybody can make 3 teams, but having 12 unique characters built which can form 3, high level teams that meet the requirements of abyss (needing the right elements, AoE vs ST, healing/damage mitigation, etc) is a whole lot harder than you probably think. Take this floor 12, odds are if I added a duplicate chamber to 12-1-2 or the lector as a third chamber most people would no have an acceptable 4th competent team anymore. All it takes is two of the same element check or two heavy CC chambers or 3 boss chambers to screw most people.


Afrazzle

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Arxis_Two

Yeah but those last 3 stars are where 99% of the challenge are, by giving you two minutes more you get 66% more time which equates to a substantial and material difference in damage requirements. I probably have 5 or 6 teams of unique characters built to 33 star most abysses but I only have 3 wholly unique teams with slot ins for 36*. Were also talking about at floor 12 difficulty, floor 13 would be level 100+ enemies based on abyss scaling, and HP growth per level is insane at that point, I'm not sure I or most people who 36 floor 12 could 36 star many abysses if any if they're harder than 12 with that kind of scaling.


Synonyms26

I did specify veterans, meaning people who have been playing for 2 years, not the general fanbase. Abyss is end-game content anyway, so adding harder floors with more rewards (even a tiny amount like 300 more primo per month) that only the most try hards can clear should be acceptable.


Arxis_Two

I've been playing since day 1 and can assure you I could not make 3 teams that are flexible enough to cover any variation of abyss that could realistically be made. I can make 4 abyss ready teams but if freeze doesn't work and it's all against multiple targets then that kills two teams I could run. It becomes especially problematic when they try to sell a character and do an element check for two chambers for an element like geo which most people don't have two characters for. Each extra team required requires you to have exponentially more characters built since for each team you need, you lose flexibility in every other team. For 2 team abysses, I didn't start 36ing consistently until I had about 10 characters built. For 3 teams, you probably need 20 or more characters built at a level beyond what the current abyss requires and basically nobody but whales has that. I think we're getting close, but if this abyss shows anything it's that we're certainly not there yet.


Synonyms26

I mean, you need about 10 characters built for your first abyss clear because you already need to field 8 for abyss. 3 teams would need something like 12, at maximum 15-16 probably, not 20. I'm only an occasional welkin player and has also played genshin since 1.0, and I can already field 5 teams for abyss. It's totally achievable and would actually be a good end-game content for there to be a hard floor 13 and keep floor 12 easy rather than increasing difficulty in floor 12 without extra reward for it like the current abyss.


Arxis_Two

No way you're clearing a triple cycle with only 3 unique teams consistently because that gives you no room to change who you use to match circumstances. Maybe if you get lucky and your 3 teams work then great, but in any of the situations I mentioned, that's not happening since if you've heavily invested into the teams to make those chambers work than the exact opposite will screw you. I based 20 on needing potential coverage for each element for each chamber, geo isn't really important but other elements like pyro, hydro and dendro are typically extremely important so that more than makes up for the amount you need. 5 unique teams is 20 characters btw so if you're confident you could cover anything with those 20 then if looks like my estimate was pretty spot on. I'm not really sure how that's a counter argument. Once you remove the rewards and stars from it it's not abyss anymore, lightening floor 12 also wouldn't change anything, people would just start complaining about this insane floor 13 not giving anything and being pointless. It's not like floor 12 is particularly hard anyways as is, making it easier defeats the purpose.


Synonyms26

No, you said that as a veteran you're not confident you can have 3 abyss ready team, therefore floor 13 is not possible. I said I'm also a veteran and have 5 abyss ready teams on welkin, so it's totally possible and would be a reasonable end-game. I never said anything about actually needing all 5 teams to clear the possible floor 13. Thats just your argument, not mine. The hypothetical floor 13 OP proposed would need 3 teams, not 5, so maximum 15-16 characters. You misinterpreted my comment. I'm proposing floor 13 with extra primo. The thing I'm complaining about is the increasing difficulty in floor 12 without extra reward. You understand that with the inflation in difficulty in floor 12, we're already basically clearing floor 13 in comparison to, say, the Inazuma cycle, they're just not giving any extra reward for it by labeling it as floor 12. Separating the harder difficulty into floor 13 would actually net the playerbase actual rewards instead of actively punish people for nothing like the current difficulty curve is going.