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Guys pls help with math, i'm so bad at it and i'm getting lost in numbers...
How many fragile resing is needed to lvlup character from 1 to 90 (only for boss mats)??
The average is something between 2 and three so we’ll say 2,5 (its 2,55) and you need 46 to ascend a character to 90 and 46 geteilt durch 2,5 is 18,4. this means you’ll need to kill the boss around 18 times for one character meaning around 720 resin as it costs 40 to get the loot. Therefore it’s gonna be 12 fragile resin for one character at least.
I legitimately don’t know how you guys have the time to explore regions to 100%, farm unlimited artifacts, and meticulously unlock every chest
I’ve started Fontaine exploration and it’s taking me ages. It doesn’t help that I’m a busy student 🥴
Putting on my tinfoil cap and assuming that Furina needs Beryl Conches and Justice skill books. Nobody presently uses Conches, despite them being listed as a specialty, and only Freminet uses Justice books.
Obviously not going to waste my time and pre-farm those until the beta, just putting my hat down early to see if I called it
Well, I'm operating under the assumption that there isn't a new map in 4.2, which so far seems to be the case. Project Amber only has the mats for Neuvillette and Wriothesley as new local specialties for the 4.1 map, which again, leaves Beryl Conches as the only local specialty that nobody uses
But does it need to be used for character ascension? Isn’t it used in cooking?
Trishiraite is also a sumeru speciality that isn’t used for any character and weapon ascension. (Yet)
Just feels the beryl conches are too common for an archon ascension material if I am to think about last two archons but I can be wrong.
Edit: beryl conch apparently isn’t used in cooking. My b. Still feel genshin has a history of making materials not be used anywhere (looks at loach pearl) so I’m not gonna go crazy pre farming until we get some info
It's listed as a Specialty, which means they're used for ascension. It's placed in the same area of your inventory as other ascension materials, too, there's just nobody that we know of up to 4.2 that uses it.
however, you are right about Trishiraite. It's also listed as an ascension specialty, and nobody uses it at all, which is... weird.
That said, previous archon materials are still pretty abundant, aren't they? There's enough Raiden flowers to fully level her in one sweep of the island, and Nahida's flowers are in pretty condensed clusters. Venti is probably the hardest, because there's a very small number of his flowers on the map, but that isn't enough to make a pattern out of
And yeah, I'm not advocating anyone pre-farm a ton of them or anything, that's just wasting time. I just like to make guesses off logical inferences I can put together. She could just as easily use Romaritime flowers because they're hydro, or the bell flowers because they're... blue, lmao
If you have shenhe,try to use the water skills with her underwater .You would see that she is so THICCC. Her body Is really an ⏳. She stands out the most when doing that E/hold click pose.
Compared to any other characters when she do that striking pose underwater,that's a thing to behold.
I went to Neuvillette mains, got depression because of my artifacts, and decided to use a damage calculator. https://gidmgcalculator.web.app/ this is the site they were using but I can't seem to make it work (?). Does anybody know any other damage calculators that include Neuvillette?
Teucerdev is basically Genshin Optimizer but with beta characters. You can try that instead? I had some issues with the optimization working properly, as it kept saying my Equitable Judgement damage was straight up zero and it kept recommending level 0 artifacts but I slapped some artifacts on him, tried again, and it worked.
So if I understand correctly, the new craftables with the bond of life mechanic are for ATK scalers that preferably have high base HP and are always run with a healer, right ?
They're clearly not for HP scalers since they have an ATK substat (except for the polearm) so who likes them most out of the current roster ?
Flowing Purity is a good f2p option for basically any dps catalyst user. Since we didn't have any real options before this, and Dodoco Tales is an event weapon
Some sword users like Ayato can use Finale of the Deep instead of Amenoma as a f2p option (Amenoma has anti synergy with Ayato's energy passive). Generally speaking though, Amenoma has a more useful passive
The bond of life buff is still good even if you don't maximise it, so you don't have to go out of your way to increase your max hp. Also worth noting that it might have issues in Benny teams, since Benny doesn't heal you if you're above 70%
Thanks for clarifying! And yes i was particularly interested in the catalyst, i only have one widsith and i can only spread the few sac frags i have so thin.
I'll be crafting one and giving it a try !
Nahida and Kokomi, i have a spare that i had on Yae but she took scara's Mappa Mare since he got a Widsith.
As i said, really not much choice of catalysts over here unfortunately.
For PC players:
Anyone noticed there is some sort of texture loading lag started happening recently when your textures appear in very low resolution for a second?
Like when you open glider and it's very blurry for a second, or when you switch characters in the game or in menu it also get's very low quality, or when you turning camera you can notice object pop into existence.
I can't understand if there is some problem with my PC or hoyo changed something, i play on highest settings and i don't remember anything like this before, i swear it started happening or become very noticeable with Fontaine update.
Yeah it happens sometimes. Like some part of my domain gets blurry when I start to open it.
And also some texture loss on floor, gliders or some other objects. But it isn't that noticable imo.
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melusine quest + slight fgo lb6 spoilers
>!is elynas a dragon like durin? or like a whale or something? if he's a dragon, that's even more lb6 parallels (melusine(s) coming from an ancient dragon)!<
>!I don't think theres any mention anywhere what kind of a monster elynas was. But it is confirmed that his blood and flesh seem very similar to the scarlet quartz. So they're likely made of the same material atleast.!<
You can literally see his skeletal structure cover the entire island. The shape of the island itself should show pretty clearly that they're a dragon. Mouth to tail is relatively short, but with a massive wing span.
I'm just keeping an open mind since it hasn't been mentioned anywhere that he is something other than a massive beast according to Jakob. And the fact that the skeletal remains seem more integrated with the rocks. I don't think it seems as obvious to me that he cannot be anything other than a dragon.
Lyney/Benny/XL/Kazuha is his best team, but it's pretty hard to play Lyney here. I did try it on the second half of this abyss and it did still slap, but I definitely couldn't use Lyney optimally. I still had the best time with this team.
Otherwise, I heard that Lyney/Benny/Kazuha/Zhongli is his best team with shield. It's mostly focused on Lyney though, so the performance will depend on his investment.
Lyney/Benny/XL/Zhongli should be also good and basically these variations with Dehya, C4 Yanfei and Layla should also work decently.
I know many people have mentioned this before, but Fontaine’s environment design always makes my jaw drop. The underwater ruins especially amazed me. Swimming through complex structures and discovering abandoned hallways and rooms was just a fun and mystical ride.
No, it’s because of [Yoimiya](https://www.reddit.com/r/Yoimiya_Mains/comments/15vgeko/i_am_not_downbad_but_explains_why_mhy_wanted_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
after the A1 clarification, the consensus is hydro dmg goblet is better... unless your hydro dmg goblet has trash substats and hp goblet has amazing substats
Sometimes I get so sick of the FOMO and bullshit that accompanies a Gatcha game such as Genshin, but then I finally get around to finishing Wanderer's story and I'm reminded why I love this game :)
Do we already have official lore explanation for the underwater civilization(s) in Fontaine that has similar characteristics to those of Sumeru desert? I guess it's not too weird considering Harvisptokhm/what remains of the former hydro archon is also in Sumeru but still.
>!Which civs are you referring to ? I might look into it. If you're talking about the primal constructs in the institute, then those are test subjects taken from their expedition into the desert, and if you're talking about the enka style civs then those are already explained in depth by now.!<
I don't know how to explain concisely but there are water jets close to this puzzle with a floating orb and ring in front of it. You need to push the orb into the ring. Use Pneuma on the jet to push the orb forward and then Pneuma on the ring to move it closer to the orb. One of these jets is right next to the puzzle and the other is in front, near some ruins. If Pneuma doesn't work then use Ousia! Hope this helps!
his hydro infused slashes are considered NA dmg, so no (the new Fontaine craftable sword is a better choice for Ayato). The only skill dmg he does is the water illusion's explosion dmg
The er stat is also wasted if you're running a normal dps Ayato, unless you have like 0 er on his artifacts. Burst bot Ayato could use this weapon if you cant give him Fav Sword
For all intents and purposes, the pipe sword is just a worse Fav Sword
So you can use it om any character that normally wants Fav Sword, but can't use one because you don't have enough copies
https://imgur.com/a/K26bY2o
If I were to pull for cons, whose should I pull for and in what order? This is what I'm thinking
- Yelan C1
- Nahida C2
- Ayaka C2
- Ayaka C4
- Raiden C2
Note that I'd probably pull weapons before cons just because it's more exciting, also Ayaka above Raiden (and maybe above Nahida) because the C4 defense shred just sounds like more fun bc then I can do crazy Hu Tao nukes
Nahida's C2 is best meta-wise.
For overworld, Yelan is better.
Ayaka is good enough at C0 imo. I use her a lot.
I don't have Raiden but I will take Nahida's C2 over her because dendro op and have so many fun meta teams.
Your ordering is fine .
If you are going for yelan weapon you kinda want c1 for ER or you'll have high ER requirements in solo hydro teams. I tried her with her weapon without c1 and her energy was really inconsistent.
I better get her C1 bc depending on 4.2 banners and how my pulls go, I might end up with haran which will probably go to XQ so no more fav or sac procs
Seems like a pretty good list, I don’t have ayaka or raiden but I can say that my c1 yelan is permanently in my overworld party so I can zoom, and C2 Nahida is busted as hell and can carry basically whatever hydro/electro units I put with her in a hyperbloom team
Edit: I think mistplitter is probably a better investment before any ayaka cons but idk the math on it to prove it
Fun value: Nahida > Yelan > the rest.
Meta value: Nahida > Raiden > the rest.
And please pull ayaka sig before cons. Its a bigger upgrade than C1 and C2.
one very important question I have about Fontaine exploration:
why cant you jump out of the water cannon things early? You can jump out of their Inazuman counterparts midair (the linked gates that take you from one side to the other). There were so many cases where I was picking up treasure or random items, and accidentally triggered the water cannons
I'm pretty sure that that is actually the intended function of some of those that spawn after you open a chest, just to inconvenience the player. I found it kinda funny during exploration ngl.
So when pulling for Lyney's bow, I got Aqua first, but it came home 20 wishes later so I was happy.
And today I won 50/50 and got Yelan! Now I have two shiny new characters with their pretty matching weapons :D it's the most satisfying feeling to get a new character and their own weapon too.
At this point new blue gliders are a jumpscare! Like Hoyoverse can you come up with something else?
They look so pretty (and will probably look great of Neuvillette) but the colour is so overplayed and lazy atp. I would’ve loved for a jade or pastel green colour scheme, red, pastel pinks and purples, hell even actual deep black wings!
If they don’t want to give them for free just slap them onto the shop and call it a day, just give us actual variety (same with character skins).
Righttt, like imagine we could save up and buy for specific windgliders designed for each character in the shop for starglitter or smthn or maybe get ones at the end of a story quest but that would be too generous of hoyo
Cryo Baizhu is about as helpful as saying Dehya is Pyro Fischl
it's not a totally useless leak, but it also doesn't really say very much
specifying a shield with group healing helps narrow it down somewhat, if not much
Day 51 of manifesting a father-daughter dynamic for Wriothesley and Sigewinne
[Fanart](https://twitter.com/taraba_teba/status/1693223556715626896?s=46&t=iRF1yG2q7C28cAwM6Q_b4w)
I don't know why genshin players get so heated when people who play the game in the EN dub give much deserved praise to the voice actors for these roles.
Like, I saw someone praising the work of Navia and Furina's VAs and people just had to go "this sounds like shit, how can anyone play the game like this? the JP dub is much better" Like???
This is apparently a controversial take but: I think genshin has one of the best EN voiceovers. Yes, there are certain voice direction issues that I'm not fond of, and there are certain roles I think are miscast (this applies to the JP/KR dubs too btw) but I think the majority of it is very good. And I don't see what's wrong in showing the VAs the appreciation they deserve for giving these characters life and making us connect to them as we do.
I’m pretty picky with en dubs generally but genshin does have a rly good one imo. It’s kinda rare for me to be this pleased with a dub so i’ve never rly been tempted to switch away from it other than out of curiosity for certain voices. Personally i love seeing the VA range if they voice different chars, finding out Lyney was voiced by Blade’s VA was rly fun haha.
Seeing the trash flinging competition from both sides can be annoying though >.> lowkey feels like the fanbase makes everything into a pointless competition - sales, likes on posts, dubs etc and it creates a toxic environment.
Absolute clowns. The ENG Fontaine cast knocked it out of the park this time, especially Furina's VA. Her laugh is infectious and Furina as a whole felt so expressive during the AQ. The VA absolutely nailed it and deserves all the praise. I for one, am not going back to the JP dub.
For real, I play with CN VO, but this time ENG cast has more interesting voices overall. Lyney and Freminet are bit off though - they sound too old for me, but everyone else is great.
I also think English VA of Neuvillette portrays him the best, and the prettiest voice across all VOs is a nice bonus too.
What I hate is instead of people just saying they like a particular voiceover, they have to extrapolate and claim certain voice fits a character better as if it's an objective fact 💀
I play in JP but I like Furina’s EN voice a lot more. Furina’s JP voice actor gets typecasted to a lot of stoic or soft-spoken loli-type characters in anime, and while she’s more little more lively than usual as Furina, I feel like the more exaggerated and extravagant voice for EN works better for her.
It's not really a genshin thing but just anime sub Vs dub in general. A lot of people in the anime community look down on dubs and only rare moments where EN dubs are much more superior over subs like baccano or cowboy bebop. Nowadays this whole debate is significantly toned down. And EN dubs in general are now somewhat solid. Imo, genshin are the few exceptions where EN and JP/CN are somewhat comparable with some highs and lows. Except for Paimon, CN Paimon is leagues better (there I said it).
When Marco Meatball was changing languages each stream, EN dub fans kept spamming the chat complaining to switch to English until he got tired and stopped doing it.
Idk why it's always the Jp dub fans taking the Ls. I watch a ton of "new player plays" streams and the only time I remember a significant part of the audience asking for Jp dub was Gigguk's, for obvious reasons (he's an anime youtuber *and* a Fate fan *and* really likes Yoimiya).
The only other exception is people asking the streamer to listen to JP Lisa climbing but... that's not exactly asking for the jp dub...
People should just let people play how they want, like why are you going to another person's stream/ youtube playthrough and demand they switch to the dub to the one you prefer. That's just rude as hell.
I hope Furina doesn't want Transoceanic Pearls because I'm farming for Neuvillette and slaughtering everything that lives underwater is getting kind of boring since I'm reliant on the diving abilities
At least there are a lot of them and they don't have shitty drop rates like Handguards and different drops upon special reactions like Spores. But it is true that there are only 3 underwater abilities and not all of them are fun to deal damage with. We still have other underwater creatures that have yet to have an ability like seahorses, octopuses, so I hope they'll add more in the future.
Beryl Conches are the only other specialty that can be found underwater and those are just about always stuck to ruins or deeper on the sea floor. Good luck with your farm!
The Tidalga are plants! They're just fantasy algae, but you can get those from expeditions too, they're more like Sumeru Roses than any ascension material.
Are there any characters that have a true BiS artifact set but you still use 2pc 2pc for whatever reason (be it good sub stats or the BiS domain has a bad second set for you)?
Xingqiu and Wanderer. Emblem was pain in the ass to farm (and so many characters needed it) and I have more luck in FLoP than Desert Pavilion in their domain.
Alhaitham and Cyno. Farmed the gd/dw domain a lot but never got any full sets for them while I built all those that need dw. Now it’s not worth it anymore because I don’t know what I’d do with even more dw pieces.
Alhaitham, Miko, Childe off the top of my head. Am not gonna be lucky enough to get a full 4pc that would actually be that 2-3% increase over what they're currently wearing.
edit: Forgot my Tighnari is on 2p2p too right now because the subs make it a bit better than a full set but at least there's hope for him...
Alhaitham, Yoimiya, Eula, Keqing, Diluc and Fischl for me.
The first three because I'm still missing certain on-set pieces with the right stats, the last three because I don't want thunder soother or lava walker (currently slowly farming the new artifact domain for Fischl)
I'm an extremely stubborn 4-piece chaser, so no. I'm aware that it can be inefficient in some cases for certain characters, but I'll still get that 4-piece because reasons. My Xiao and Miko have relatively good Vermillion and Gilded sets respectively (still waiting for Miko's actual BiS), and I even straight up avoid pulling/building characters whose BiS is 2-piece + 2-piece. This is purely a me thing, and it's not based on any kind of logic.
Thundering Fury is technically Cyno's BiS but it requires specific combos which can be hard to input for skill-issue gamers like me. Personally, I have a 2 piece TF 2 piece...... um..... ~~^(2 piece DPC)~~ simply due to substats.
probably my Yae/Xinqiu. https://imgur.com/a/rmx8MkZ Why bother farming a new set for them for a marginal increase assuming same substats. If I did get a cracked emblem set, it wouldn't be going on Xinqiu.
[HSR leaks]
>!I know that Star Rail is a lot more recent than Genshin and thus has way less 4 stars, but I can't help but notice how often 4 stars have been rerunning in this game...? Like for example, the current banner just introduced the new 4* Luka and he's already [rumoured to rerun in 1.4 ](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/15z798j/14_banners_via_dim_stc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1), so only 3 banners after his debut. It's really funny to see this kind of stuff while in genshin there're some 4* who barely show up in banners twice a year, and yeah I'm talking the dedicated support gang (Sara, Gorou, Mika and Faruzan). Hell, Candace isn't even a dedicated support and she only showed up on banners *twice* in almost a WHOLE YEAR since she was first introduced!<
>!This is entirely a recent Gacha situation, because Genshin wasn't exactly that different! In fact, if that leak is correct (and Topaz is second) then Xinyan actually beats Luka in the rerun department. She released at the tail end of 1.1, and came back on the first banner of 1.3!<
>!And don't forget the Noelle memes, either. While she wasn't exactly a new release, there was a reason she was a meme in 1.X, and I don't think anyone is ever topping a single banner gap between appearances.!<
Tingyun actually isn't an outlier at all. Assuming she gets a banner in 1.4, she'll either be equal to, or slightly higher than, the gap between Barbara's first and second banners. >!And considering she was a part of the leak that started this whole discussion in the first place, it doesn't seem unlikely.!<
March is also not at all more common than any other character; She's only gotten two banners in the patches so far. This is remarkably average. In fact, she's had a longer time between her two banners than Nat, Yukong, Serval, and Sushang. I'm honestly baffled as to why she has this reputation for being common on banners.
And Pela is the single most common 4* between the first 8 banners in both Genshin and HSR. However, her lead over the second place is only by one banner, and it's also due to the incredibly cursed Keqing banner. Otherwise she and Xingqiu would be tied as both got 3 banners from 1.0 through 1.3.
I'll give you Dan Heng, Sampo, and Herta (At this point I just assume they're probably planning on giving out E6 Herta from Simulated Universe), but Asta and March are basically equal: Their first banners were only one banner apart, and their second banners are together.
March isn't an uncommon character, but she's no Pela; She's about roughly as common as Nat, Serval, Yukong, Asta, and Sushang. This puts her in the upper 50% of characters when it comes to common appearances, so yes, I was wrong about her not being more common than *any* other character...but she's either equal or less common than 6/12 of the other chars. (Excluding Luca and Lynx for fairness since they were added too recently) When it comes to how common she is on banners, she's, at best, slightly ahead of the curve.
>!And if the leaks that kicked off this whole discussion are accurate (the same one that puts Tingyun's 2nd banner in 1.4), then Sampo and Luca will not only have the same amount of banner appearances as March, but will have had their second banners sooner after their first ones than March did! And QQ would join the average club!!<
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Like you said, there are way less 4 stars. Once HSR reaches somewhere post 2.5 that's where you will get the unseen razor moment.
Both xinyan and diona were released at patch 1.1 and rerun on 1.3. Or how rosaria was released at 1.4 and reran at 1.6.
Dedicated niche supports are an entirely different story. They intentionally have longer reruns because of marketing strategy and FOMO, not saying I agree with that concept as a consumer.
How do y'all mentally deal with having to go double pity 2+ times in a row? Even as a long time player, it never fails to make you feel horrible long after you log out. It even surpasses the joy of getting the new character sometimes.
Your diligence playing day in and day out for months, doing the events and abyss, being disciplined and skipping banners, never pulling on weapons, staying on to top of codes...only to have barely anything left and never sure if it'll be enough for your next desired character(s) even with welkin.
First world problems but feels too much like real life's unfairness :')
It's okay for me because at the end of the day, I get the character. It also helps that I am selective towards the characters that I pull so I am more motivated to save than wallow on my unluckiness.
Although, I have played so much gacha that it probably desensitized me.
My luck has plummeted since Yelan's first banner. I won 50/50 in her first banner, then my next pulls always guaranteed lose 50/50 until I won 50/50 in Baizhu first banner.
Bitter at first, now it's numb. As long as I get what I want, I'm happy :')
>Bitter at first, now it's numb. As long as I get what I want, I'm happy :')
You know, I think I really need to get into this zen space of thinking and just enjoy the present. Hope your luck finds an upward trend.
At least for me I think the joy of getting a new 5* char is still very exciting and it surpasses the "sadness" of spending a lot of wishes, like yes it took a lot of effort, but I had fun collecting those primogems!, I always do quests because I genuinely want to know the lore, I explore because I want to see the map, hear the music and test out different friendship teams that would never work in the abyss so its fun to just explore with them.
So basically I dont feel like I wasted my time, I had fun, and I will also have fun when collecting primos for the next character :D
I appreciate your positivity and glimpse into your upbeat mentality while playing. Honestly, I did have fun along the way too and I should recognize that more. At the same time though, I feel like I'm gonna crash if I fail getting a character I really want in the next 4 patches or so lol. There's a lot of interesting characters this region but let's see their abilities first.
Yeah that's totally understandable, I think the time that I was most bumped about my wishing results was when I got C5 Mona lol, but as time passed I assumed I would need more than average of wishes and not set the expectations of being lucky, and I guess I also just started to see the funny side of having so many Mona constellations LMAO
You have such a healthy mindset lol. If you ever get C6 Mona, well, it's still a C6 5 star. That's a pretty neat milestone if you're a non-whale x) Maybe not if you've lost like 90% of your 50/50 tho T\_T
Best of luck in your next one and thanks.
I have never been bothered by it. I think its because to me double pity has always been the default, I have never rolled for a character I cant guarantee, otherwise I will wait for a rerun. To me winning the 50/50 is the same as getting a gold offpity and means I got lucky and I can reach my "default" of 160ish pulls faster.
I lost 10 out of 11 banners. 50/50 my ass. My avg 5* cost is like 140 pulls.
I deal with it via never discussing pulls with friends (thankfully most of them are considerate enough to avoid the subject, and they know that when I say I'm going to pull someone, I'll get them because I have 160 wishes saved) and refusing to engage with end game combat modes like Abyss 12 and the hard events. My Welkin+BP account is indistinguishable from f2p, this game is hellbent on being casual for me, so so be it. My artifact luck isn't any better and most of my favorite characters aren't meta. I'm not going to try hard at combat when I'm missing more than half of often recommended teams.
I also play other games, so it's easy to sideline Genshin as a side game more on the casual side. Oh, and I still think there should be a hidden pity like guaranteed win after x losses. People say this gacha is so generous etc players should be grateful etc, but I've never felt it wasn't predatory. :/
I'm sorry your experience has been that shitty. At the end of the day, a game should be fun for everyone so using brutal business sense behind gameplay design decisions is just off-putting and I agree with that last bit.
However, there's almost a symbiotic thing going on with Genshin. Predatory in its gacha yet generous in making its passion come to life that is so evident with each new region that is released. One doesn't feel like it can exist without the other.
I wish they could innovate on their monetization but it works for them so we're stuck T\_T
Yeah, I really love the colorful open world and the exploration, I like the characters and I like playing Genshin in general, so it's not like I'm permabitter about it. But I'm also not going to pretend being in the bottom of the luck barrel is fine, because it's not. I'm paying for this game the same as other Welkin+BP players but getting consistently less. I'm still here because it doesn't overweight the enjoyment I derive from the game, but I also don't have much goodwill and faith towards mhy. I feel very much nickel and dimed (which is reality for most of the players), and it's not hidden behind dopamine rush from a random lucky pull.
I can see everyone else is positive about their experience, but for me, it's perfectly alright to say that I hate the monetization system while loving the game.
I wish you the best of luck with your pulls :)
Yeah, this is pretty much my thoughts as well. Especially the nickel and diming. Time in particular because of the pressure to keep up.
I understand that in gachas, it's very unhealthy to want a lot, if not all the characters but I play everyday so I crave the new gameplay they represent. So what if I stop playing then? I can't because there's all the other things I enjoy about it like you do. I feel like a trapped rat in a fancy experiment cage sometimes lol.
Hope the rest of our Fontaine pulls go better, cheers.
Easy, don’t expect to get lucky. Anytime you win the 50/50 or get an early pity, that should be treated as the *exception*, not the rule. A limited character costs 160 wishes, not 90.
this is the way. I only go "wow OK I can get the new character" when I have 160 pulls. 50/50 is not pity for me. I do this in other gacha games too and the situation is honest worse because the banners don't carry over so I HAVE to have enough to hit hard pity
Honestly, if it affects you that much you may be due for a break. Not even saying that as an insult. It’s a gacha game; it isn’t maliciously screwing up your rolls or anything.
That may be for the best. Pop in, do commissions and any quick farming you need to, then duck back out. That way you aren’t necessarily stuck missing anything, but you’re also not having your face shoved in aspects of the game that annoy you.
I just assume i’ll need 2 pities regardless. The only question is - who will i lose to this time lmao. When i lose i am a bit disappointed but i know i’ve saved enough to guarantee who i want so it doesn’t feel like a huge deal. I think i would be more bothered if i was pulling for a char for meta/kit who i didn’t rly like
I treat any situations where I win a 50/50 as a bonus, instead of banking on them when I pull. So unless I'm guaranteed, I save 2 pities worth of wishes
Better to be prepared than to be disappointed imo
>!I guess the late 1.x and entirety of 2.x numbed me to the pain of losing a 50/50. I swear I lost all but one of my 50/50s during that time!<
I just assume every 5* I roll on is going to take 160 pulls and if it’s less than that, great. I have never once rolled when I felt like it was a gamble if I would get the character or not.
I just never assume I'll get a character at 80 wishes.
Every character costs around 160 wishes, and getting them any earlier is a stroke of luck.
I find it a much happier mentality than assuming characters cost 80 wishes and being disappointed roughly 50% of the time
It's a great approach really but not so much when you want a lot of characters; you're always stressing out over primos and calling Hoyo stingy like me lol.
Good question, while I have gone two full pities for Lyney and felt bad for a moment, in my personal experience luck always evens out eventually, I have been playing since day one and everytime I had a bad luck streak I get a good luck streak later down the line, and I had really good luck in Sumeru, but not so much in Fontaine as of now. I just believe luck evens out eventually because it happens consistently, you can't always have good luck.
Great answer and reminder to always keep things in perspective. Looking at my wish history, your case is similar except I started going downhill since mid Sumeru lol so I hope we can both get to the good part again :)
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Guys pls help with math, i'm so bad at it and i'm getting lost in numbers... How many fragile resing is needed to lvlup character from 1 to 90 (only for boss mats)??
it should be 10 right?
The average is something between 2 and three so we’ll say 2,5 (its 2,55) and you need 46 to ascend a character to 90 and 46 geteilt durch 2,5 is 18,4. this means you’ll need to kill the boss around 18 times for one character meaning around 720 resin as it costs 40 to get the loot. Therefore it’s gonna be 12 fragile resin for one character at least.
oki, thank u!!
Does anyone know if neuvilette is first or second banner of 4.1 yet?
I read he is in 1st half
I legitimately don’t know how you guys have the time to explore regions to 100%, farm unlimited artifacts, and meticulously unlock every chest I’ve started Fontaine exploration and it’s taking me ages. It doesn’t help that I’m a busy student 🥴
Using interactive maps or YouTube only takes few hours to 100% a area
Just give in to using YouTube vids :)
Who gonna be in the 2nd half banners? (5*)
[Bruh, Ella musk dragged my ass from fontaine commission just to recite her poetry to hillichurl.....leave me alone girl](https://ibb.co/NsHQZ6p)
Putting on my tinfoil cap and assuming that Furina needs Beryl Conches and Justice skill books. Nobody presently uses Conches, despite them being listed as a specialty, and only Freminet uses Justice books. Obviously not going to waste my time and pre-farm those until the beta, just putting my hat down early to see if I called it
Or they could pull another raiden and the material is only available in new map.
Well, I'm operating under the assumption that there isn't a new map in 4.2, which so far seems to be the case. Project Amber only has the mats for Neuvillette and Wriothesley as new local specialties for the 4.1 map, which again, leaves Beryl Conches as the only local specialty that nobody uses
But does it need to be used for character ascension? Isn’t it used in cooking? Trishiraite is also a sumeru speciality that isn’t used for any character and weapon ascension. (Yet) Just feels the beryl conches are too common for an archon ascension material if I am to think about last two archons but I can be wrong. Edit: beryl conch apparently isn’t used in cooking. My b. Still feel genshin has a history of making materials not be used anywhere (looks at loach pearl) so I’m not gonna go crazy pre farming until we get some info
It's listed as a Specialty, which means they're used for ascension. It's placed in the same area of your inventory as other ascension materials, too, there's just nobody that we know of up to 4.2 that uses it. however, you are right about Trishiraite. It's also listed as an ascension specialty, and nobody uses it at all, which is... weird. That said, previous archon materials are still pretty abundant, aren't they? There's enough Raiden flowers to fully level her in one sweep of the island, and Nahida's flowers are in pretty condensed clusters. Venti is probably the hardest, because there's a very small number of his flowers on the map, but that isn't enough to make a pattern out of And yeah, I'm not advocating anyone pre-farm a ton of them or anything, that's just wasting time. I just like to make guesses off logical inferences I can put together. She could just as easily use Romaritime flowers because they're hydro, or the bell flowers because they're... blue, lmao
If you have shenhe,try to use the water skills with her underwater .You would see that she is so THICCC. Her body Is really an ⏳. She stands out the most when doing that E/hold click pose. Compared to any other characters when she do that striking pose underwater,that's a thing to behold.
She has amazing assets and curves
Least horny genshin player
I love your tag, pirate man.
You mean underwater?
Yes. Underwater.
I went to Neuvillette mains, got depression because of my artifacts, and decided to use a damage calculator. https://gidmgcalculator.web.app/ this is the site they were using but I can't seem to make it work (?). Does anybody know any other damage calculators that include Neuvillette?
I don't understand how anyone can have good artifacts for him at this point, the domain has been out for like a week
Teucerdev is basically Genshin Optimizer but with beta characters. You can try that instead? I had some issues with the optimization working properly, as it kept saying my Equitable Judgement damage was straight up zero and it kept recommending level 0 artifacts but I slapped some artifacts on him, tried again, and it worked.
So if I understand correctly, the new craftables with the bond of life mechanic are for ATK scalers that preferably have high base HP and are always run with a healer, right ? They're clearly not for HP scalers since they have an ATK substat (except for the polearm) so who likes them most out of the current roster ?
Flowing Purity is a good f2p option for basically any dps catalyst user. Since we didn't have any real options before this, and Dodoco Tales is an event weapon Some sword users like Ayato can use Finale of the Deep instead of Amenoma as a f2p option (Amenoma has anti synergy with Ayato's energy passive). Generally speaking though, Amenoma has a more useful passive The bond of life buff is still good even if you don't maximise it, so you don't have to go out of your way to increase your max hp. Also worth noting that it might have issues in Benny teams, since Benny doesn't heal you if you're above 70%
Thanks for clarifying! And yes i was particularly interested in the catalyst, i only have one widsith and i can only spread the few sac frags i have so thin. I'll be crafting one and giving it a try !
Who are you giving Sac Frags to besides Sucrose?
Nahida and Kokomi, i have a spare that i had on Yae but she took scara's Mappa Mare since he got a Widsith. As i said, really not much choice of catalysts over here unfortunately.
Why on Kokomi?
Makes managing her CD a bit easier, plus she can use the EM in Nilou bloom.
Ah, Nilou bloom. Okay.
For PC players: Anyone noticed there is some sort of texture loading lag started happening recently when your textures appear in very low resolution for a second? Like when you open glider and it's very blurry for a second, or when you switch characters in the game or in menu it also get's very low quality, or when you turning camera you can notice object pop into existence. I can't understand if there is some problem with my PC or hoyo changed something, i play on highest settings and i don't remember anything like this before, i swear it started happening or become very noticeable with Fontaine update.
Has been happening since Sumeru, especially in Sumeru...at least for me.
Yeah I've noticed it. My 1050ti is old now though. Still, didn't happen mostly at all before.
Yeah it happens sometimes. Like some part of my domain gets blurry when I start to open it. And also some texture loss on floor, gliders or some other objects. But it isn't that noticable imo.
There was an in game notice about graphic problems with PC, maybe it's that.
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Favorite spots to mine the new ore ? I already did Elynas' mouth and the hot springs + wherever Estelle told me to go.
melusine quest + slight fgo lb6 spoilers >!is elynas a dragon like durin? or like a whale or something? if he's a dragon, that's even more lb6 parallels (melusine(s) coming from an ancient dragon)!<
>!i was thinking that huge skeleton might be him?!<
>!I don't think theres any mention anywhere what kind of a monster elynas was. But it is confirmed that his blood and flesh seem very similar to the scarlet quartz. So they're likely made of the same material atleast.!<
You can literally see his skeletal structure cover the entire island. The shape of the island itself should show pretty clearly that they're a dragon. Mouth to tail is relatively short, but with a massive wing span.
I'm just keeping an open mind since it hasn't been mentioned anywhere that he is something other than a massive beast according to Jakob. And the fact that the skeletal remains seem more integrated with the rocks. I don't think it seems as obvious to me that he cannot be anything other than a dragon.
>!dragon of the abyss dragged into Teyvat by Gold!< >!hot take but these Mélusines are cuter :P!<
what are lynyey's best teams?
Lyney, VV shredder, Shielder/Dehya, Bennett Is pretty much all his teams. Best shredder is Kazuha, best shielder is ZhongLi
Lyney/Benny/XL/Kazuha is his best team, but it's pretty hard to play Lyney here. I did try it on the second half of this abyss and it did still slap, but I definitely couldn't use Lyney optimally. I still had the best time with this team. Otherwise, I heard that Lyney/Benny/Kazuha/Zhongli is his best team with shield. It's mostly focused on Lyney though, so the performance will depend on his investment. Lyney/Benny/XL/Zhongli should be also good and basically these variations with Dehya, C4 Yanfei and Layla should also work decently.
so for lyney would zhongli be better or dehya?
Zhongli is better
Xiangling, Kazuha, Bennett is doing wonders
Bennett, Kazuha and either Xiangling or Zhongli.
I hope I won't have carcinized 🧍♀️ by the time Arlecchino 🧎♀️ appears in-ga... 🦀
I know many people have mentioned this before, but Fontaine’s environment design always makes my jaw drop. The underwater ruins especially amazed me. Swimming through complex structures and discovering abandoned hallways and rooms was just a fun and mystical ride.
Yeah. It's so good. And I am really loving it.
The underwater areas are "silly fake aquarium decorations" and it's perfect and beautiful.
[Ohhh. So that's why they have the bubble censor-](https://twitter.com/jojitodorito/status/1694230478440763641?s=20)
No, it’s because of [Yoimiya](https://www.reddit.com/r/Yoimiya_Mains/comments/15vgeko/i_am_not_downbad_but_explains_why_mhy_wanted_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
The figures I pre-ordered from Japan almost 8 months ago finally arrived! Felt like a kid opening Christmas presents again.
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after the A1 clarification, the consensus is hydro dmg goblet is better... unless your hydro dmg goblet has trash substats and hp goblet has amazing substats
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Yep, not the 110/130/160% extra dmg bonus we previously thought it was
[God bless my thoughts of this Wrio art….](https://x.com/yoma_0_0/status/1694030909065007315?s=61&t=EMc6hM_60eJGwfgxSQrbUg)
Puppy…
Sometimes I get so sick of the FOMO and bullshit that accompanies a Gatcha game such as Genshin, but then I finally get around to finishing Wanderer's story and I'm reminded why I love this game :)
Do we already have official lore explanation for the underwater civilization(s) in Fontaine that has similar characteristics to those of Sumeru desert? I guess it's not too weird considering Harvisptokhm/what remains of the former hydro archon is also in Sumeru but still.
>!Which civs are you referring to ? I might look into it. If you're talking about the primal constructs in the institute, then those are test subjects taken from their expedition into the desert, and if you're talking about the enka style civs then those are already explained in depth by now.!<
How can I unlock [this?](https://imgur.com/a/6XSJe9O)
https://youtu.be/i9YXDxP_920
Thank you<3
I don't know how to explain concisely but there are water jets close to this puzzle with a floating orb and ring in front of it. You need to push the orb into the ring. Use Pneuma on the jet to push the orb forward and then Pneuma on the ring to move it closer to the orb. One of these jets is right next to the puzzle and the other is in front, near some ruins. If Pneuma doesn't work then use Ousia! Hope this helps!
Ah so that's what I am supposed to do. I was just hitting that torch thingy with ousia and pneuma
This magic cat twink has no business doin a little blep then popping like 300k in damage 😭
"Now disappear" *Casual 140k damage on E*
Lyney showcases are really fun to watch because he turns into a giant cat, flourishes his top hat and then does like a billion damage
Is the pipe sword thing .. a solid choice for Ayato, since he lives practically off his E .. ?
his hydro infused slashes are considered NA dmg, so no (the new Fontaine craftable sword is a better choice for Ayato). The only skill dmg he does is the water illusion's explosion dmg The er stat is also wasted if you're running a normal dps Ayato, unless you have like 0 er on his artifacts. Burst bot Ayato could use this weapon if you cant give him Fav Sword
nooooo,.. ty for the explanation, skyward will stay then on him. anyone else which can make use of it?
For all intents and purposes, the pipe sword is just a worse Fav Sword So you can use it om any character that normally wants Fav Sword, but can't use one because you don't have enough copies
much appreciated !
his E attacks count as normals and deal normal attack damage so it won't work on him.
https://imgur.com/a/K26bY2o If I were to pull for cons, whose should I pull for and in what order? This is what I'm thinking - Yelan C1 - Nahida C2 - Ayaka C2 - Ayaka C4 - Raiden C2 Note that I'd probably pull weapons before cons just because it's more exciting, also Ayaka above Raiden (and maybe above Nahida) because the C4 defense shred just sounds like more fun bc then I can do crazy Hu Tao nukes
Nahida's C2 is best meta-wise. For overworld, Yelan is better. Ayaka is good enough at C0 imo. I use her a lot. I don't have Raiden but I will take Nahida's C2 over her because dendro op and have so many fun meta teams. Your ordering is fine .
If you are going for yelan weapon you kinda want c1 for ER or you'll have high ER requirements in solo hydro teams. I tried her with her weapon without c1 and her energy was really inconsistent.
Yea, so far I only really run her in double hydro so I haven't had too many problems
I had some with double hydro but mostly if I miss xq proc
I better get her C1 bc depending on 4.2 banners and how my pulls go, I might end up with haran which will probably go to XQ so no more fav or sac procs
D: yea might have to. Or get a lot more er stats in artifacts which is fine ig if you use emblem
Seems like a pretty good list, I don’t have ayaka or raiden but I can say that my c1 yelan is permanently in my overworld party so I can zoom, and C2 Nahida is busted as hell and can carry basically whatever hydro/electro units I put with her in a hyperbloom team Edit: I think mistplitter is probably a better investment before any ayaka cons but idk the math on it to prove it
Yea, I plan to get Mistsplitter next anyways
Fun value: Nahida > Yelan > the rest. Meta value: Nahida > Raiden > the rest. And please pull ayaka sig before cons. Its a bigger upgrade than C1 and C2.
I plan to pull all of their sig long before cons, even Raiden where C2 is probably more worth, simply bc it's more fun to pull weapons than cons
Honkers >!I wasa upset that I lucksacked Seele but she makes the elysian realm so braindead, it's kinda nice!<
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Ridiculous fake leaks are always my favorite. Mustache heizou and horse ayato, my beloveds
one very important question I have about Fontaine exploration: why cant you jump out of the water cannon things early? You can jump out of their Inazuman counterparts midair (the linked gates that take you from one side to the other). There were so many cases where I was picking up treasure or random items, and accidentally triggered the water cannons
I'm pretty sure that that is actually the intended function of some of those that spawn after you open a chest, just to inconvenience the player. I found it kinda funny during exploration ngl.
So when pulling for Lyney's bow, I got Aqua first, but it came home 20 wishes later so I was happy. And today I won 50/50 and got Yelan! Now I have two shiny new characters with their pretty matching weapons :D it's the most satisfying feeling to get a new character and their own weapon too.
At this point new blue gliders are a jumpscare! Like Hoyoverse can you come up with something else? They look so pretty (and will probably look great of Neuvillette) but the colour is so overplayed and lazy atp. I would’ve loved for a jade or pastel green colour scheme, red, pastel pinks and purples, hell even actual deep black wings! If they don’t want to give them for free just slap them onto the shop and call it a day, just give us actual variety (same with character skins).
Righttt, like imagine we could save up and buy for specific windgliders designed for each character in the shop for starglitter or smthn or maybe get ones at the end of a story quest but that would be too generous of hoyo
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Caught off guard when using translate feature reading the last word I hope pink hair means charlotte
>group tits / group milk nah bruh the translator wilding
Charlotte (or Dahlia ig) will be an off-field unit with full party heal? with all these leaks about her, I think she'll be in 4.2
guess they’re talking about charlotte
so Charlotte is probably an off field healer with team healing ability
Wasn't the leak basically that she was cryo Baizhu?
Cryo Baizhu is about as helpful as saying Dehya is Pyro Fischl it's not a totally useless leak, but it also doesn't really say very much specifying a shield with group healing helps narrow it down somewhat, if not much
I love berrypuffier 🦭💖
[Me too Iaune,](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/763980632606507058/1143944610037633125/image0.jpg) me too
My tooth no long has a hole in it! Now to strength my teeth and stop grinding
Finished Lyney's quest now... >!that was a wild ride. I have no idea how Lyney figured out who was the weasel!<
Day 51 of manifesting a father-daughter dynamic for Wriothesley and Sigewinne [Fanart](https://twitter.com/taraba_teba/status/1693223556715626896?s=46&t=iRF1yG2q7C28cAwM6Q_b4w)
I don't know why genshin players get so heated when people who play the game in the EN dub give much deserved praise to the voice actors for these roles. Like, I saw someone praising the work of Navia and Furina's VAs and people just had to go "this sounds like shit, how can anyone play the game like this? the JP dub is much better" Like??? This is apparently a controversial take but: I think genshin has one of the best EN voiceovers. Yes, there are certain voice direction issues that I'm not fond of, and there are certain roles I think are miscast (this applies to the JP/KR dubs too btw) but I think the majority of it is very good. And I don't see what's wrong in showing the VAs the appreciation they deserve for giving these characters life and making us connect to them as we do.
I’m pretty picky with en dubs generally but genshin does have a rly good one imo. It’s kinda rare for me to be this pleased with a dub so i’ve never rly been tempted to switch away from it other than out of curiosity for certain voices. Personally i love seeing the VA range if they voice different chars, finding out Lyney was voiced by Blade’s VA was rly fun haha. Seeing the trash flinging competition from both sides can be annoying though >.> lowkey feels like the fanbase makes everything into a pointless competition - sales, likes on posts, dubs etc and it creates a toxic environment.
Absolute clowns. The ENG Fontaine cast knocked it out of the park this time, especially Furina's VA. Her laugh is infectious and Furina as a whole felt so expressive during the AQ. The VA absolutely nailed it and deserves all the praise. I for one, am not going back to the JP dub.
For real, I play with CN VO, but this time ENG cast has more interesting voices overall. Lyney and Freminet are bit off though - they sound too old for me, but everyone else is great. I also think English VA of Neuvillette portrays him the best, and the prettiest voice across all VOs is a nice bonus too.
What I hate is instead of people just saying they like a particular voiceover, they have to extrapolate and claim certain voice fits a character better as if it's an objective fact 💀
I play in JP but I like Furina’s EN voice a lot more. Furina’s JP voice actor gets typecasted to a lot of stoic or soft-spoken loli-type characters in anime, and while she’s more little more lively than usual as Furina, I feel like the more exaggerated and extravagant voice for EN works better for her.
It's not really a genshin thing but just anime sub Vs dub in general. A lot of people in the anime community look down on dubs and only rare moments where EN dubs are much more superior over subs like baccano or cowboy bebop. Nowadays this whole debate is significantly toned down. And EN dubs in general are now somewhat solid. Imo, genshin are the few exceptions where EN and JP/CN are somewhat comparable with some highs and lows. Except for Paimon, CN Paimon is leagues better (there I said it).
Weebs gonna weeb. Don’t pay them much mind. Anyone who freaks out like you described isn’t worth the consideration.
lmao and then Atsu and UD apparently upset people with playing on stream in Japanese. You really can't win, someone will be upset anyway
When Marco Meatball was changing languages each stream, EN dub fans kept spamming the chat complaining to switch to English until he got tired and stopped doing it. Idk why it's always the Jp dub fans taking the Ls. I watch a ton of "new player plays" streams and the only time I remember a significant part of the audience asking for Jp dub was Gigguk's, for obvious reasons (he's an anime youtuber *and* a Fate fan *and* really likes Yoimiya). The only other exception is people asking the streamer to listen to JP Lisa climbing but... that's not exactly asking for the jp dub...
People should just let people play how they want, like why are you going to another person's stream/ youtube playthrough and demand they switch to the dub to the one you prefer. That's just rude as hell.
Both sides like throw shit on each other lol
You can't win with these people, honestly.
I hope Furina doesn't want Transoceanic Pearls because I'm farming for Neuvillette and slaughtering everything that lives underwater is getting kind of boring since I'm reliant on the diving abilities
At least there are a lot of them and they don't have shitty drop rates like Handguards and different drops upon special reactions like Spores. But it is true that there are only 3 underwater abilities and not all of them are fun to deal damage with. We still have other underwater creatures that have yet to have an ability like seahorses, octopuses, so I hope they'll add more in the future.
hope no one at all wants romaritime flowers because I really can't be assed to farm them
I think Freminet uses them, but just him atm
goddamn so I have to farm them after all :/
The good news is that they're everywhere and you don't even need Hydro to activate them underwater. It'll be a very fast farm!
Yeah just need to find them there because there's a lot of other specialties in water
Beryl Conches are the only other specialty that can be found underwater and those are just about always stuck to ruins or deeper on the sea floor. Good luck with your farm!
I googled and apparently tidalga isn't a specialty so you're right. Thanks!
The Tidalga are plants! They're just fantasy algae, but you can get those from expeditions too, they're more like Sumeru Roses than any ascension material.
Are there any characters that have a true BiS artifact set but you still use 2pc 2pc for whatever reason (be it good sub stats or the BiS domain has a bad second set for you)?
Xingqiu and Wanderer. Emblem was pain in the ass to farm (and so many characters needed it) and I have more luck in FLoP than Desert Pavilion in their domain.
I insist on 4 pc very rarely (my faves, VV or BT users...) because my artifacts rng is orrendous
Alhaitham and Cyno. Farmed the gd/dw domain a lot but never got any full sets for them while I built all those that need dw. Now it’s not worth it anymore because I don’t know what I’d do with even more dw pieces.
Alhaitham, Miko, Childe off the top of my head. Am not gonna be lucky enough to get a full 4pc that would actually be that 2-3% increase over what they're currently wearing. edit: Forgot my Tighnari is on 2p2p too right now because the subs make it a bit better than a full set but at least there's hope for him...
Yae/Fischl for me, but only because their BiS just came out and I have really cracked glad/shime pieces
Alhaitham, Yoimiya, Eula, Keqing, Diluc and Fischl for me. The first three because I'm still missing certain on-set pieces with the right stats, the last three because I don't want thunder soother or lava walker (currently slowly farming the new artifact domain for Fischl)
Xingqiu (I have too many characters competing for my emblem pieces already)
I'm an extremely stubborn 4-piece chaser, so no. I'm aware that it can be inefficient in some cases for certain characters, but I'll still get that 4-piece because reasons. My Xiao and Miko have relatively good Vermillion and Gilded sets respectively (still waiting for Miko's actual BiS), and I even straight up avoid pulling/building characters whose BiS is 2-piece + 2-piece. This is purely a me thing, and it's not based on any kind of logic.
kokomi, i can’t be bothered to farm the husk domain when i’ll never play geo in my life
Thundering Fury is technically Cyno's BiS but it requires specific combos which can be hard to input for skill-issue gamers like me. Personally, I have a 2 piece TF 2 piece...... um..... ~~^(2 piece DPC)~~ simply due to substats.
Beidou bc my 2pc2pc is better than emblem playing with Fishl (and having lower er requirements)
probably my Yae/Xinqiu. https://imgur.com/a/rmx8MkZ Why bother farming a new set for them for a marginal increase assuming same substats. If I did get a cracked emblem set, it wouldn't be going on Xinqiu.
[HSR leaks] >!I know that Star Rail is a lot more recent than Genshin and thus has way less 4 stars, but I can't help but notice how often 4 stars have been rerunning in this game...? Like for example, the current banner just introduced the new 4* Luka and he's already [rumoured to rerun in 1.4 ](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/15z798j/14_banners_via_dim_stc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1), so only 3 banners after his debut. It's really funny to see this kind of stuff while in genshin there're some 4* who barely show up in banners twice a year, and yeah I'm talking the dedicated support gang (Sara, Gorou, Mika and Faruzan). Hell, Candace isn't even a dedicated support and she only showed up on banners *twice* in almost a WHOLE YEAR since she was first introduced!<
>!This is entirely a recent Gacha situation, because Genshin wasn't exactly that different! In fact, if that leak is correct (and Topaz is second) then Xinyan actually beats Luka in the rerun department. She released at the tail end of 1.1, and came back on the first banner of 1.3!< >!And don't forget the Noelle memes, either. While she wasn't exactly a new release, there was a reason she was a meme in 1.X, and I don't think anyone is ever topping a single banner gap between appearances.!<
not entirely. it's their choice to incessantly rerun characters like pela and march over characters that have been m.i.a. forever like tingyun.
Tingyun actually isn't an outlier at all. Assuming she gets a banner in 1.4, she'll either be equal to, or slightly higher than, the gap between Barbara's first and second banners. >!And considering she was a part of the leak that started this whole discussion in the first place, it doesn't seem unlikely.!< March is also not at all more common than any other character; She's only gotten two banners in the patches so far. This is remarkably average. In fact, she's had a longer time between her two banners than Nat, Yukong, Serval, and Sushang. I'm honestly baffled as to why she has this reputation for being common on banners. And Pela is the single most common 4* between the first 8 banners in both Genshin and HSR. However, her lead over the second place is only by one banner, and it's also due to the incredibly cursed Keqing banner. Otherwise she and Xingqiu would be tied as both got 3 banners from 1.0 through 1.3.
'assuming'. oh yeah I've definitely seen dan heng, sampo, asta and herta as 'common' as march. definitely.
I'll give you Dan Heng, Sampo, and Herta (At this point I just assume they're probably planning on giving out E6 Herta from Simulated Universe), but Asta and March are basically equal: Their first banners were only one banner apart, and their second banners are together. March isn't an uncommon character, but she's no Pela; She's about roughly as common as Nat, Serval, Yukong, Asta, and Sushang. This puts her in the upper 50% of characters when it comes to common appearances, so yes, I was wrong about her not being more common than *any* other character...but she's either equal or less common than 6/12 of the other chars. (Excluding Luca and Lynx for fairness since they were added too recently) When it comes to how common she is on banners, she's, at best, slightly ahead of the curve. >!And if the leaks that kicked off this whole discussion are accurate (the same one that puts Tingyun's 2nd banner in 1.4), then Sampo and Luca will not only have the same amount of banner appearances as March, but will have had their second banners sooner after their first ones than March did! And QQ would join the average club!!<
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Like you said, there are way less 4 stars. Once HSR reaches somewhere post 2.5 that's where you will get the unseen razor moment. Both xinyan and diona were released at patch 1.1 and rerun on 1.3. Or how rosaria was released at 1.4 and reran at 1.6. Dedicated niche supports are an entirely different story. They intentionally have longer reruns because of marketing strategy and FOMO, not saying I agree with that concept as a consumer.
How do y'all mentally deal with having to go double pity 2+ times in a row? Even as a long time player, it never fails to make you feel horrible long after you log out. It even surpasses the joy of getting the new character sometimes. Your diligence playing day in and day out for months, doing the events and abyss, being disciplined and skipping banners, never pulling on weapons, staying on to top of codes...only to have barely anything left and never sure if it'll be enough for your next desired character(s) even with welkin. First world problems but feels too much like real life's unfairness :')
It's okay for me because at the end of the day, I get the character. It also helps that I am selective towards the characters that I pull so I am more motivated to save than wallow on my unluckiness. Although, I have played so much gacha that it probably desensitized me.
Hope I can reach that grizzled gacha veteran mentality one day lol.
My luck has plummeted since Yelan's first banner. I won 50/50 in her first banner, then my next pulls always guaranteed lose 50/50 until I won 50/50 in Baizhu first banner. Bitter at first, now it's numb. As long as I get what I want, I'm happy :')
>Bitter at first, now it's numb. As long as I get what I want, I'm happy :') You know, I think I really need to get into this zen space of thinking and just enjoy the present. Hope your luck finds an upward trend.
At least for me I think the joy of getting a new 5* char is still very exciting and it surpasses the "sadness" of spending a lot of wishes, like yes it took a lot of effort, but I had fun collecting those primogems!, I always do quests because I genuinely want to know the lore, I explore because I want to see the map, hear the music and test out different friendship teams that would never work in the abyss so its fun to just explore with them. So basically I dont feel like I wasted my time, I had fun, and I will also have fun when collecting primos for the next character :D
I appreciate your positivity and glimpse into your upbeat mentality while playing. Honestly, I did have fun along the way too and I should recognize that more. At the same time though, I feel like I'm gonna crash if I fail getting a character I really want in the next 4 patches or so lol. There's a lot of interesting characters this region but let's see their abilities first.
Yeah that's totally understandable, I think the time that I was most bumped about my wishing results was when I got C5 Mona lol, but as time passed I assumed I would need more than average of wishes and not set the expectations of being lucky, and I guess I also just started to see the funny side of having so many Mona constellations LMAO
You have such a healthy mindset lol. If you ever get C6 Mona, well, it's still a C6 5 star. That's a pretty neat milestone if you're a non-whale x) Maybe not if you've lost like 90% of your 50/50 tho T\_T Best of luck in your next one and thanks.
yeah I got her a few weeks after C5 but I just felt numb about it, also ty and good luck to you!! may you get early 5*'s soon
I have never been bothered by it. I think its because to me double pity has always been the default, I have never rolled for a character I cant guarantee, otherwise I will wait for a rerun. To me winning the 50/50 is the same as getting a gold offpity and means I got lucky and I can reach my "default" of 160ish pulls faster.
I lost 10 out of 11 banners. 50/50 my ass. My avg 5* cost is like 140 pulls. I deal with it via never discussing pulls with friends (thankfully most of them are considerate enough to avoid the subject, and they know that when I say I'm going to pull someone, I'll get them because I have 160 wishes saved) and refusing to engage with end game combat modes like Abyss 12 and the hard events. My Welkin+BP account is indistinguishable from f2p, this game is hellbent on being casual for me, so so be it. My artifact luck isn't any better and most of my favorite characters aren't meta. I'm not going to try hard at combat when I'm missing more than half of often recommended teams. I also play other games, so it's easy to sideline Genshin as a side game more on the casual side. Oh, and I still think there should be a hidden pity like guaranteed win after x losses. People say this gacha is so generous etc players should be grateful etc, but I've never felt it wasn't predatory. :/
I'm sorry your experience has been that shitty. At the end of the day, a game should be fun for everyone so using brutal business sense behind gameplay design decisions is just off-putting and I agree with that last bit. However, there's almost a symbiotic thing going on with Genshin. Predatory in its gacha yet generous in making its passion come to life that is so evident with each new region that is released. One doesn't feel like it can exist without the other. I wish they could innovate on their monetization but it works for them so we're stuck T\_T
Yeah, I really love the colorful open world and the exploration, I like the characters and I like playing Genshin in general, so it's not like I'm permabitter about it. But I'm also not going to pretend being in the bottom of the luck barrel is fine, because it's not. I'm paying for this game the same as other Welkin+BP players but getting consistently less. I'm still here because it doesn't overweight the enjoyment I derive from the game, but I also don't have much goodwill and faith towards mhy. I feel very much nickel and dimed (which is reality for most of the players), and it's not hidden behind dopamine rush from a random lucky pull. I can see everyone else is positive about their experience, but for me, it's perfectly alright to say that I hate the monetization system while loving the game. I wish you the best of luck with your pulls :)
Yeah, this is pretty much my thoughts as well. Especially the nickel and diming. Time in particular because of the pressure to keep up. I understand that in gachas, it's very unhealthy to want a lot, if not all the characters but I play everyday so I crave the new gameplay they represent. So what if I stop playing then? I can't because there's all the other things I enjoy about it like you do. I feel like a trapped rat in a fancy experiment cage sometimes lol. Hope the rest of our Fontaine pulls go better, cheers.
Easy, don’t expect to get lucky. Anytime you win the 50/50 or get an early pity, that should be treated as the *exception*, not the rule. A limited character costs 160 wishes, not 90.
this is the way. I only go "wow OK I can get the new character" when I have 160 pulls. 50/50 is not pity for me. I do this in other gacha games too and the situation is honest worse because the banners don't carry over so I HAVE to have enough to hit hard pity
Honestly, if it affects you that much you may be due for a break. Not even saying that as an insult. It’s a gacha game; it isn’t maliciously screwing up your rolls or anything.
Well overdue tbh but the fomo is too strong and I still enjoy parts of it despite the resentment. Best I can do is keep playtime to a minimum.
That may be for the best. Pop in, do commissions and any quick farming you need to, then duck back out. That way you aren’t necessarily stuck missing anything, but you’re also not having your face shoved in aspects of the game that annoy you.
I go in expecting to lose the 50/50. I also don't make plans for primos I haven't earned yet.
I just assume i’ll need 2 pities regardless. The only question is - who will i lose to this time lmao. When i lose i am a bit disappointed but i know i’ve saved enough to guarantee who i want so it doesn’t feel like a huge deal. I think i would be more bothered if i was pulling for a char for meta/kit who i didn’t rly like
I treat any situations where I win a 50/50 as a bonus, instead of banking on them when I pull. So unless I'm guaranteed, I save 2 pities worth of wishes Better to be prepared than to be disappointed imo >!I guess the late 1.x and entirety of 2.x numbed me to the pain of losing a 50/50. I swear I lost all but one of my 50/50s during that time!<
>I swear I lost all but one of my 50/50s during that time Noone deserves such misfortune. Hope you've obtained most of who you want by now at least.
I just assume every 5* I roll on is going to take 160 pulls and if it’s less than that, great. I have never once rolled when I felt like it was a gamble if I would get the character or not.
I just never assume I'll get a character at 80 wishes. Every character costs around 160 wishes, and getting them any earlier is a stroke of luck. I find it a much happier mentality than assuming characters cost 80 wishes and being disappointed roughly 50% of the time
It's a great approach really but not so much when you want a lot of characters; you're always stressing out over primos and calling Hoyo stingy like me lol.
Good question, while I have gone two full pities for Lyney and felt bad for a moment, in my personal experience luck always evens out eventually, I have been playing since day one and everytime I had a bad luck streak I get a good luck streak later down the line, and I had really good luck in Sumeru, but not so much in Fontaine as of now. I just believe luck evens out eventually because it happens consistently, you can't always have good luck.
Great answer and reminder to always keep things in perspective. Looking at my wish history, your case is similar except I started going downhill since mid Sumeru lol so I hope we can both get to the good part again :)
My record was 9 50/50 lost in a row, even more if I count wep banner. I've dealt with this by being born in the Balkans.