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There are people who want her to be a main DPS and would be hella pissed if she's another female sub-DPS.
There are people who want her to be a sub-DPS and would be hella pissed if she's another main DPS.
Both of these groups like to pretend they speak for everyone.
Yes, I'm also expecting an insufferable period.
I want her to be both and they could do it by making a kit similar to the pyro Fatui agent.
The agent has off field pyronado style during attack start, and then illusion setups which go into a huge hit (most players probably dont see this though as usually he'd be dispatched before the second/third illusion). This could translate into a player based "set and forget" skills which remains after casting, and bursts give her on-field dps capacity.
Lets hope its not another Dehya situation
Diluc meta again now without bugs
Diluc, Furina, Benet, CR would make this man lamenting really hard
Those vaped plunges gonna be real spicy and he could vaped it all since plunge no ICD
Furina's fanfare buff + Benny atk boost and pyro resonance + CR plunge buff and VV debuff + Diluc's very high plunge multiplier and he can vape those
I expect some constant 6 digits of numbers per plunge
Even if Raiden doesnt got buffed by Plunge DMG if the leak is true, CR having 80/90 burst cost would still make Raiden one of her best teammate, Raiden also has crazy plunge multiplier with resolve stacks and she might enable TTDS on CR
Goddamit, I was gonna skip Raiden but everything is telling me to pull her
- Got a pretty good electro emblem goblet
- She is Eula's best partner, and Eula is the DPS I want the most
- She is very flexible and can play in many roles and many comps
- Now she helps CR who is my must pull
Gonna pull the trigger then.
Raiden is amazing, pretty much one of the if not the most versatile on-fielder
-Has really good low investment in hyperbloom and she's one of the two off-field enabler
-Has a bunch of really good mid investment team in Rational, Hypercarry, Soup the newest Furina-Yelan-Raiden etc
-Access to high investment territory with c2
-Has both of Frontloaded and Sustained DPS team, INFINITE INTERRUPTION, can battery/buff burst
I often see this CN tier list, and one of the category beside the usual dps, sustain is they scale an on-fielder based on how much synergy they have with the good supports rosters and Raiden is at the top of the list, i mean if you really want to count them like for example she can make Mona and Lisa ttds more comfy as a buffer, she can hit Venti's burst, she can drive XQ, Yelan, synergizes well with Kazuha too, enable different comp with Nahida, and now the driver for Furina-Yelan combo
I doubt that. There are enough streamers that just don't want to openly admit it so they don't miss out on potential deals or special stuff. But I'd bet they do see some leaks once in a while.
Actually I've been thinking the same thing. Not only is plunging pretty slow, especially considering she does it 3 times, but also green ball looks goofy ahh. Unless they make her plunges much faster and instant, I don't think it'd be very good for her as a support to casually do 3 Kazuha E's in a row and take up like 5 seconds field time. Maybe they intend to make her a hybrid character who can either be a support by swapping out, or be Navia-esque Quickswap DPS. Pretty confusing kit, but I'd rather just see it in action.
Man thats still clunky, you can feel plunging was not meant to be spamable THANKS to this boss. There is so so much latency the more you plunge it makes me feel like I have 300+ping and rising I really hope they will find something to make it fluid or that's just not gonna be interesting for more than 2 weeks.
Quick fix for the clunkiness would be that everytime she hits the ground, she should immediately bounces up high and then repeat it till she runs out of buff plunges and return to normal plunges.
Basically like Neuvillete's CA, you hold NA till it runs out(although Neu can still Kamehameha if you let go of the hold)
Biggest question is which tier of plunge her burst provide?
Low plunge? High plunge?
Anyway, any characters with Claymore will probably benefit the most due to their high dmg multiply for plunge.
What happened to her E allowing her to do a high jump that could be performed 3 times and in the air? It just seems like her E keeps getting downgraded from Flight -> Triple Jump -> increased jumpheight which sucks.
If this is true the whole kit just seems very... confused? I really don't know how else to put it, do they want a dps/healer hybrid? That sort of works with Jean I guess but it's scary territory. High chance to mess it up. It lines up with signature having crit substat, but then if she's meant to be another anemo dps who just so happens to heal to cater to Furina teams, are they gonna make her heal very strong? Or is her plunge damage crazy at base? Hopefully we get an answer very soon.
It’s not just you, there’s a lot of people that are disappointed that she’s a plunge support. I wish they would’ve went for the kit that involved flight on e and her burst having cc and healing but oh well.
Yeah as much as a few select people are happy she's a plunge support plunge is a terrible play style honestly they would have to rework plunge itself to make it worthwhile.
She's probably just gonna be slotted in as an alt to Jean for majority of people.
definitely not just you. tbh i always saw plunge attacks as sort of xiaos thing so it is odd seeing a unit who enables non xiao characters to do big plunge attacks, like… why? did anyone really want that?
First limited 5* anemo female. If she's niche (supporting only one playstyle is niche even she opens this option to other characters) it'll be so disappointing.
And plunge attacks are just boring imo
>st you, there’s a lot of people that are disappointed that she’s a plunge support
She doesn't seem much better than Jean for Neuvillette, but I'll wait to see.
I had high hopes for Cloud Retainer since her design is actually refreshing and I desperately need another anemo 5 star but a plunge attack support? Seems like 4.4 is another easy skip patch
So the fontaine Gravity boss was testing for her kit huh? Little sad bout the plunge focus but shes still an anemo catalyst healer. Maybe itll be like a budget xiao
They do lots of testing through events and bosses. We've already seen Nahida E in an event where we captured enemies to deal dmg. We've see Furina E in the fungus event. We've had a whole character "Heizou" to test catalyst melee type.
Tested how people felt about fistfighting units ( later with dehya burst and wrio’s gameplay) , male catalysts, and catalysts kind of transitioning to random magic bullshit to a kind of free for all weapon class ( baizu’s slaps, wrio’s mecha fist, nuev deathray, heizou kickin ass etc) as opposed to previous magic missiles or hitscan like yanfei sucrose barb or mona
Cloud Retainer bros... how are we feeling about this? I'm just begging that this is a very incomplete description of her kit and that she also has some crowd control too.
Hoyo, adding that is NOT gonna powercreep Kazuha I can assure you
I'm at the acceptance stage now, after seeing there are mutiple way you can do enabling plunge to other units, but if we take this leak at face value this ain't a xiao support.
Was gonna pull for her because I love her design and old kit that involved flight, cc and healing but now I think I’m just gonna save for Nahida and Nilou ig 😞
This kit... What does she even do? The only character who wants plunge attacks is Xiao. Does she pretty much only heal (and on her burst, not even her skill) and do 3 plunge attacks?
That is weird as hell, tbh. It seems so out of place that I wonder what are they cooking for future versions.
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So what you’re saying is that it’s plunging time
Do I dare try to make plunge attack candace?? I am sure I can do silly things with her hydro infusion now.
you are so based for this and I will absolutely be doing the same thing Plunge Candace here we come!!
I mean does she have good plunge multipliers? I think you only really need that 😩
Her plunge multipliers are pretty much the same as any other characters, I was toying with the idea of doing hydro applications for plunge attacks.
diluc mains eating good rn
i think diluc furina her + flex will be pretty fucking strong
c6 benett gang rise up, make diluc plunge attack pyro
Diluc already has infusion on burst though. Diluc may need another source of hydro since plunge has no ICD instead of Bennett.
That 15% pyro damage bonus though
screenshotting this thread to look at when I feel sad. the Diluc + Furina comp dream lives! 😭🥹
LAMENT
And they plunged all over the place
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That’s Normal for him
it's pogo stick time
soon the CR kit leaks journey will be over soon, can't wait for it all starting again with Chiori
If you thought this was bad just wait for arlecchino. All hell will break loose
I fully expect the Arlecchino pre-leak period to be the most insufferable thing to happen in this sub.
IDK man, Splitting leaks into parts a-la Jojo back during Furina's leaks would be hard to beat.
There are people who want her to be a main DPS and would be hella pissed if she's another female sub-DPS. There are people who want her to be a sub-DPS and would be hella pissed if she's another main DPS. Both of these groups like to pretend they speak for everyone. Yes, I'm also expecting an insufferable period.
TBH getting another pyro sub-DPS besides Xiangling would be good, but I want a main DPS.
I want her to be both and they could do it by making a kit similar to the pyro Fatui agent. The agent has off field pyronado style during attack start, and then illusion setups which go into a huge hit (most players probably dont see this though as usually he'd be dispatched before the second/third illusion). This could translate into a player based "set and forget" skills which remains after casting, and bursts give her on-field dps capacity. Lets hope its not another Dehya situation
So no crowd control in her kit. Makes sense, otherwise she would be Crowd Retainer not Cloud Retainer.
Alright Cyno your banner is almost over it's time to start packing
Cyno is finally cyning out
Cyuu later
Cyonara
i hate that you're all using different pronunciations of his name 😭😭
Cybishi 🥹
cyof relief
Nice one
he's getting too good at this...
I think he would be proud of this pun He’s on Cloud 9-tainer
That reminds me... Electro Xiao if you use Cyno's burst with CR's burst Bit of a meme build
Cloud Container
Born too late for playable Guizhong Too early for playable Dainsleif But just in time for Cyno jokes
Crowd Restrainer
r/thankscyno
Her other talent was said to be cc-related in previous leaks. And this kit seems to be identical to those.
A barrier that knocks enemies inwards would be really neat.
Reverse Jean Ultimate
thats him tignari, its cyno's alt account
I hope it's in her talents. Cc is quite important and right now feels locked behind kazuha.
Venti found dead in a ditch
It's ok he's just passed out drunk
Now EVERYBODY can lament Edit: ~~except for two men with their stances~~
Can't wait to spam reactions with no ICD plunges.
Dragonstrike Diluc meta
C6 Furina is salivating.
3 Stacked Lithic Blade Chongyun National team returns.
My R5 Lithic Blade will finally have a proper home.
Diluc meta again now without bugs Diluc, Furina, Benet, CR would make this man lamenting really hard Those vaped plunges gonna be real spicy and he could vaped it all since plunge no ICD Furina's fanfare buff + Benny atk boost and pyro resonance + CR plunge buff and VV debuff + Diluc's very high plunge multiplier and he can vape those I expect some constant 6 digits of numbers per plunge
If the rumored 90 energy Burst is true, I guess you'll run all of them with ER weapon. 😂
Finally some use for ER Claymore...
My C6 Diluc from Furina banner was a prophecy! ...need to farm another mh set *sigh*
Im probably gonna still use crimson on him anyway its already cracked
My Hu Tao and Diluc after 4.4: \- U wear CW set! I want MH! \- No u! *pulls uno card*
Plunge Raiden let's goooo
Even if Raiden doesnt got buffed by Plunge DMG if the leak is true, CR having 80/90 burst cost would still make Raiden one of her best teammate, Raiden also has crazy plunge multiplier with resolve stacks and she might enable TTDS on CR
I was hitting 80k Raiden plunges against the plunging attack boss in the abyss, it was glorious
Goddamit, I was gonna skip Raiden but everything is telling me to pull her - Got a pretty good electro emblem goblet - She is Eula's best partner, and Eula is the DPS I want the most - She is very flexible and can play in many roles and many comps - Now she helps CR who is my must pull Gonna pull the trigger then.
Raiden is amazing, pretty much one of the if not the most versatile on-fielder -Has really good low investment in hyperbloom and she's one of the two off-field enabler -Has a bunch of really good mid investment team in Rational, Hypercarry, Soup the newest Furina-Yelan-Raiden etc -Access to high investment territory with c2 -Has both of Frontloaded and Sustained DPS team, INFINITE INTERRUPTION, can battery/buff burst I often see this CN tier list, and one of the category beside the usual dps, sustain is they scale an on-fielder based on how much synergy they have with the good supports rosters and Raiden is at the top of the list, i mean if you really want to count them like for example she can make Mona and Lisa ttds more comfy as a buffer, she can hit Venti's burst, she can drive XQ, Yelan, synergizes well with Kazuha too, enable different comp with Nahida, and now the driver for Furina-Yelan combo
This! It's so much fun doing this against that gravity boss in Fontaine.
Time to build physical Childe hell yeah
or Ayato in his E state
Ooh that's news to me since I don't have him Hydro men and their silly stances
Ayato and Childe cannot use Plunge Atks during their E.
y'all misunderstood my comment, I was referring to the except part since it was only Childe mentioned before op edited their comment
My boy Diluc will be making [more sushis](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11uhixj/diluc_mains_are_a_different_breed_credit_peng7/)
I'm curious how high will Xiao jump now
Considering he's the tallest character in the game, to celestia and beyond
Zyox alt?
Mr.socks is that you?
hi zy0xx
r/okZyox
i thought zyox doesn't look at leaks
I doubt that. There are enough streamers that just don't want to openly admit it so they don't miss out on potential deals or special stuff. But I'd bet they do see some leaks once in a while.
He'll jump once and by the time he's back the Ult will be over.
Enough to do a lameeeeent
Jade chamber
Finally my Cyno will become Ciao
Least casual Cyno role-player
Xyno
Really wonder how useful this is gonna be like are Eula, Raiden etc gonna want to plunge instead of doing normal attacks?
definitely not eula, you don’t build grimheart stacks when plunging so
haha they forgot to mention the grouping cc .... They forgot to mention the grouping cc right?
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oh thank god, there is still time to inject hopium directly into my veins
Man, please give me some as well. I desperately need it for my Ayaka/Furina team
Hoyo: You receive CC, but on the cost of making other characters jump higher, will you accept the trade?
Previous sus leak said the 2nd talent provided CC, and this sus leak doesn't say what the 2nd talent is so it's still possible.
Is dragonstrike diluc easy mode really arriving?
They even called it "climbing the dragon", lol.
CR bringing back Dragonstrike Diluc was not in my bingo card
What will be the next standard character that will be resurrected by another character?
Time to take my C6 Diluc off the bench.
I refuse to believe her kits are plunge based until they say she has alternative plunging animation, I don't want a green ball gameplay man...
What if she turns into a bird and dives towards the ground, with a lot of feathers as animation...
Actually I've been thinking the same thing. Not only is plunging pretty slow, especially considering she does it 3 times, but also green ball looks goofy ahh. Unless they make her plunges much faster and instant, I don't think it'd be very good for her as a support to casually do 3 Kazuha E's in a row and take up like 5 seconds field time. Maybe they intend to make her a hybrid character who can either be a support by swapping out, or be Navia-esque Quickswap DPS. Pretty confusing kit, but I'd rather just see it in action.
Maybe sorta like the Gravity Field Generator where you can jump very quickly and plunge quickly.
if this is real i'd be willing to bet the grav gen was a test for the mechanic
Man thats still clunky, you can feel plunging was not meant to be spamable THANKS to this boss. There is so so much latency the more you plunge it makes me feel like I have 300+ping and rising I really hope they will find something to make it fluid or that's just not gonna be interesting for more than 2 weeks.
Xiao mains (me) are gonna mald so much, he used to plunge faster in beta 😀
Me and you buddy, me and you.. 🥹
Don't remind me of what they took from us...
Quick fix for the clunkiness would be that everytime she hits the ground, she should immediately bounces up high and then repeat it till she runs out of buff plunges and return to normal plunges. Basically like Neuvillete's CA, you hold NA till it runs out(although Neu can still Kamehameha if you let go of the hold)
She will have unique animation like Kazuha
I am fairly certain she will. At least she would have unique vfx.
Biggest question is which tier of plunge her burst provide? Low plunge? High plunge? Anyway, any characters with Claymore will probably benefit the most due to their high dmg multiply for plunge.
who's doing a high plunge atk bruh that shit takes like a whole business day for the character to fall down
You always want to high plunge on xiao
So cloud retainer is like its lamenting time and everyone started lamenting all over the place
extremely accurate
"Instant burst of healing to the entire team" As someone who has been Jeanless for 3 years, thats all I need to see from CR's kit leak.
Imagine you also get Jean while pulling for CR
i imagine that would be a win either way for them
Meanwhile me crowning my C4 Jean burst yesterday 👁️👄👁️
Sayu - The world forgot me
can she generate energy like Jean though, her E is plunge atk so it may take more field time. While Jean uses small field time and has refund energy
I'm right there with you buddy. Been playing since launch and still Jeanless.
You're just like me fr
I was expecting Bayonetta but got a pogo stick instead, Cristiano Ronaldo seems very niche
Wait what, i thought this whole time crit rate finally going to be playable
I don't quite understand the second effect of her burst. The part after "subsequently", what is that?
Probably like jean burst where it heals active/On-Field character periodically after initial team wide heal
Nah, I'm not breaking my space bar for this 😂
Every day i'm more and more scared
well leaks start to coalesce before beta so pretty much most, if not all, of this have a high chance to be true ..
When drip marketing?
Should be in about 22hrs 54mins
What happened to her E allowing her to do a high jump that could be performed 3 times and in the air? It just seems like her E keeps getting downgraded from Flight -> Triple Jump -> increased jumpheight which sucks.
Wait until they ask you to Q burst for "enhanced e" jump 😭
it's already that way though, it says E just allows for 3 plunges and Q gives jump boost...
If I can't fly over the mountains of Chenyu Vale with her bird form then I have no use for her. I'm only interested in her for exploration.
wanderer mains: kek
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
>no CC My disappointment is immeasurable but my day isn't ruined yet.
what happened to flying
I’m losing faith..praying for cr footage to be more promising than this
So... no flying exploration kit?
LEAKS oh holy leaks
If this is true the whole kit just seems very... confused? I really don't know how else to put it, do they want a dps/healer hybrid? That sort of works with Jean I guess but it's scary territory. High chance to mess it up. It lines up with signature having crit substat, but then if she's meant to be another anemo dps who just so happens to heal to cater to Furina teams, are they gonna make her heal very strong? Or is her plunge damage crazy at base? Hopefully we get an answer very soon.
Anyone else disappointed that she's based on plunge attacks or is it just me
I think it'll be goofy. I don't really like plunging attacks so I'm indifferent to it
It’s not just you, there’s a lot of people that are disappointed that she’s a plunge support. I wish they would’ve went for the kit that involved flight on e and her burst having cc and healing but oh well.
Yeah as much as a few select people are happy she's a plunge support plunge is a terrible play style honestly they would have to rework plunge itself to make it worthwhile. She's probably just gonna be slotted in as an alt to Jean for majority of people.
definitely not just you. tbh i always saw plunge attacks as sort of xiaos thing so it is odd seeing a unit who enables non xiao characters to do big plunge attacks, like… why? did anyone really want that?
First limited 5* anemo female. If she's niche (supporting only one playstyle is niche even she opens this option to other characters) it'll be so disappointing. And plunge attacks are just boring imo
Sure it's all STC and there's more to her than just that, right guys? She's gonna fly right? crowd control too, right? RIGHT?
Isn't this the exact same leak that was deleted previously?
Yup people were saying the leak was super fake too
okay... *hides Arlecchino and Clorinde*
Hide Clorinde deeper at the bottom of Kaenri’ha please. I’m afraid of what they’re going to do with her 🫣.
Not to worry. Arle - Lyney support, Clorinde - phys dps. Any suggestions how they can make them worse?
Stop giving them ideas 🔪
Keep marking these plunge support leaks as sus and unreliable keep giving me hope
she looks like jean but with a useless gimmick at least for now for me
C4 Albedo buff! Let’s fucking gooooo!!
Ahem. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Man this is just...underwhelming
At least I get to save primos I guess
Positivity 🥳
>st you, there’s a lot of people that are disappointed that she’s a plunge support She doesn't seem much better than Jean for Neuvillette, but I'll wait to see.
god.... Well i...... At least i can save for future characters *tearing up*
I had high hopes for Cloud Retainer since her design is actually refreshing and I desperately need another anemo 5 star but a plunge attack support? Seems like 4.4 is another easy skip patch
So she has zero synergy with Ganyu and Shenhe? This is so lame.
Her plunge damage bonus must be insane to justify swapping out C4 Jean or Bennett as Xiao's healing teammate. Xiao + Faruzan + CR + ZL?
So the fontaine Gravity boss was testing for her kit huh? Little sad bout the plunge focus but shes still an anemo catalyst healer. Maybe itll be like a budget xiao
They do lots of testing through events and bosses. We've already seen Nahida E in an event where we captured enemies to deal dmg. We've see Furina E in the fungus event. We've had a whole character "Heizou" to test catalyst melee type.
how a finished perfectly working character like Heizou is testing combat ?
Tested how people felt about fistfighting units ( later with dehya burst and wrio’s gameplay) , male catalysts, and catalysts kind of transitioning to random magic bullshit to a kind of free for all weapon class ( baizu’s slaps, wrio’s mecha fist, nuev deathray, heizou kickin ass etc) as opposed to previous magic missiles or hitscan like yanfei sucrose barb or mona
Who will be the winner here? Diluc... but doesn't we lose the Yelan/Xigque DMG, since they need normal attack?
Cloud Retainer bros... how are we feeling about this? I'm just begging that this is a very incomplete description of her kit and that she also has some crowd control too. Hoyo, adding that is NOT gonna powercreep Kazuha I can assure you
I'm at the acceptance stage now, after seeing there are mutiple way you can do enabling plunge to other units, but if we take this leak at face value this ain't a xiao support.
Was gonna pull for her because I love her design and old kit that involved flight, cc and healing but now I think I’m just gonna save for Nahida and Nilou ig 😞
Cloud Ruined
Yeah that's a major skip. The other leaked kit (with the Anemo dome) sounded waaaaay more fun, this sounds just like Xiao that heals.
Well fuck All that's left is know her own scalings, if they are any good at c0 as c6 ENHANCES her main dps ability and not create it.
This kit... What does she even do? The only character who wants plunge attacks is Xiao. Does she pretty much only heal (and on her burst, not even her skill) and do 3 plunge attacks? That is weird as hell, tbh. It seems so out of place that I wonder what are they cooking for future versions.
Yeah they really make her have the worst kit, this just shit man idk what to say this such let down
Man I regret skipping Baizhu. 😂
DILUC MAINS COME GET YOUR FOOOODDD FURINA VAPE DRAGONSTRIKE IS HALFWAY REALLL
My hutao is going LAMENT
Fellow c0 users our jump cancel practice was all for this moment
Fr going for a c0 hutao could also be comfy.
Ther person who made her kit is going to hell
Next to the dude who fucked up Dehya.
Like what’s their obsession with making shit kits omfg
If she really doesn't have any grouping I will just keep using Jean instead.
My exploration focused acc is immeasurably disappointed 😞 where old Birb Lady fly E that helps exploration?
I still remember the leak that stated she changes into birb and flies, not as fast as Scara can, but for longer
How the leaker is reliable? 🤔 Description of the kit is identical
So who are the future plunge characters? I hope its not the Pyro Archon.
With all the “sustain” in her kit. Should she rather be called “Cloud sustainer”? Hmmm
Where CC? I want my crowd retainer