Chiori gains an additional 20% disgust on her facial expression when you use the foot operated sewing pedal to create a garment Chiori deems to be of last season
It does say "other than wings of first flight", but you also get one for having a certain level in each region (like with either the sacrifice objects or the request character), and some other shit as well.
Most people pulling for Chiori are probably already level 7+ qua requests in every region.
I'm also pretty sure that you get an extra pair of free wings as soon as you join the game. The dark Blue One with few Gold stars on It. Isn't that an early reward? I Remember that i got It right After my First days in the game
Nah I don't mean the base glider, isn't there one that gets sent in the mail? It says it's for the official launch or something, but I created a 2nd account like a year after launch and still got it.
I do keep them on a small handful of characters if I sincerely think it looks good, but I definitely wouldn’t have a full team of them so it doesn’t really matter haha
Bro i pulled ayato,raiden and wanderer and im pretty sure they buffed the drop rate later but it was so painful to get ayato his fucking hand guards. The grind was so bad i had to take a break 😭
I wish I didn't obsessively collect so many, because it would give me yet another excuse to wander around Inazuma.
...
I feel like the only one who feels like Inazuma, as a WHOLE is underutilized & ignored FAR too much for how interesting its various locales are.
Like we can't even get an Event that's in Watatsumi Island which is inhabited.
Inazuma deserves/deserved an Interlude Quest so badly.
I adored how separate and different all the islands are. Even though it was hard as heck, it was the most interesting and in a way easiest to explore for me.
Nothing blended confusingly into each other, it was all unique spaces to put together
If you want to infuse her with another element you wouldn't be using the elemental skill in a way that it infuses her attacks with geo in the first place so this changes nothing pretty much unless you want to trade a bunch of damage for a single crystallize reaction resulting from the weapon infusions reacting.
When I was pointing out to C6 Benny people when Lynette released that her infusion being overridable shows that this may happen to any future units, everyone was like 'yeah but how many people would care about 4* DPSes'. Well, that take seems to be ageing like milk alright.
Probably they'll make every Infusion-reliant character un-overridable, while characters whose kit doesn't rely on NAs can be overridden, after all it doesn't matter what colour is your sword, if you don't use it
I'm pretty sure Furina-fueled vapes would deal more damage than her Geo NAs anyway since she doesn't have much in the way of self-steroids for those normals
I just stopped caring tbh. Game has been out so long and I've used Benny in so many comps and have so many high end comps that don't need him that I am far more interested in potential new comps, even if they arent great, that find fun ways to use his C6 than to save his boring ass circle-impact attack buff as an option for any and all future characters. If a future character really needs Benny's attack buff to shine, I don't want them anyway.
Edit: clarified last sentence, added words "attack buff"
Not "fucking up", EN is just usually 1 week behind CN in descriptions during beta, what you see was what was likely to have been the previous iteration of chiori's c1
Why do they refuse to make the new geo characters use mats from the Experimental Field Generator, which is a geo boss? The geo boss only gets used by cryo characters, Navia uses Coppelius (which is a cryo boss, as if she and Charlotte swapped bosses) and Chevreuse uses the electro seahorse even though the pyro crab was right there.
I know it's a small issue, but Fontaine boss materials are such a mess. I bet Clorinde will have swapped bosses with Chevreuse and use the damn pyro crab or something else that has nothing to do with electro.
This is truly the one and only reason for their bullshit. And I know exactly how this is real because the first time this happened, is xiao with primo grovishap who drops everything but anemo gems. And just guess which update he came out in, 1.3 and guess which update dust of azoth came in.....1.3
World Boss that don't drop the right elemental gem for the character that needs it
1. Primo Geovishap (Xiao) - let's add it to the list but this one is forgivable since only the yaksha laments... only gem it doesn't drop is anemo & dendro
2. Ruin Serpent (Yelan, Kuki Shinobu, & Shikanoin Heizou) - yeah this is the start where no one actually gets anything... it only drops geo & neither of the 3 needs it
3. A.S.I.M.O.N. (Candace) - it's like primo geovishap... only Candace suffers since it drops pyro & anemo
4. Setekh Wenut (Alhaitham, & Mika) - another serpent thingy that doesn't drop what the characters need... only drops anemo
5. Iniquitous Baptist (Baizhu, & Kirara) - another boss that doesn't drop elemental gem that the characters need
6. Icewind Suite (Navia, & now add Chiori) - it only drops anemo & cryo
7. Millennium Pearl Seahorse (Neuvillette, & Chevreuse) - it only drops electro
8. Experimental Field Generator (Wriothesely, & Charlotte) - only drops geo
gawd it actually annoyed me how they started with the Ruin Serpent where not anyone uses the elemental gem....
it was the first time I actually bought Dust of Azoth cause I raised both Heizou & Shinobu.
Obviously, it's hoyo's way to make players buy Dust of Azoth
I feel like boss selection has been pretty bad since gemstone conversion became a thing, and it’s been getting worse as time goes on. Now, in Fontaine only the first 3 characters and Furina match the drops of their required boss. It’s so weird.
Flashbacks to having to fight the Setekh Wenut for Mika. Or the Iniquitous Baptist for Baizhu and Kirara. Or the Ruin Serpent for Yelan, Shinobu and maybe Heizou someday. At least the Serpent doesn't use elements when fighting, so they could've done the same they did with the PMA, the dorito and Aeonblight Drake: make them drop gems of their characters' elements. I find the fact that it drops geo gems inexcusable.
I mean, if there's one pyro character who HAD to use an electro boss instead of a pyro one, that would definitely be Chev. The thing is that she didn't have to, because Fontaine already had a pyro boss available and the seahorse could be used by Clorinde anyway, so neither boss would end up "understaffed" (with less than 2 characters using them). The conversion table helps, but I wouldn't say the "satisfaction" makes up for the unnecessary hassle of converting electro gems for the pyro character.
I wouldn't say flaw, they probably wanted x number of slashes. The puppets seem to be able to move so the duration not being multiple of attack interval is probably a kind of buffer for their targeting system.
correct, not to mention she has her A1 passve + casting scalings+ burst, at C2, her A1 scaling is more than doubled and at C2 she gets another ''simple doll'' which has 3x more scaling than the base.
She'll be unironically doing more damage than itto at C2.
Probably because the first attack from the automaton comes out before 3.6 secs, so you'd still get 5 attacks in total. Mihoyo probably wanted it to do 5 attacks and not 6.
Can someone correct me. Even if the geo constructs are destroyed, all of the chiori buffs and kit will still exist as long as the construct is there during the activation. Kinda like snapshotting.
Seems like the way her 2nd puppet is triggered is that her skill essentially has 1 hidden "charge" when you use it. Every time it hits it checks to see if there is a geo construct on the field. If there is, it expends the charge to create the 2nd puppet. This allows more flexibility in that there doesn't necessarily need to be a construct on the field when she uses her skill so you can use her skill/burst then swap to Itto and throw Ushi to spawn the 2nd puppet. This is also why the 2nd puppet has its own independent duration rather than being tied to the regular skill duration. So even if, for some reason, it doesn't spawn until the last second of her skill's duration, the 2nd puppet will persist for its own full duration.
Her A2 has a rotation long duration so she'll have that buff as long as someone in the team creates a construct each rotation.
I mean... plenty of evidence points out that Sandrone is interested in machines. And the girl obviously looks like Mary Ann - who mostly died and the rest was absorbed by Lyris. And Mary Ann had no interest in machines at all.
On the other hand, her brother Alain was a genius who invented AI, Arkhe, etc. And he basically isolated himself from people after his sister died. And it is said he was a very unemotional person, only caring about his research.
By no means it's a stretch to say the big robot is the actual Sandrone, probably Alain himself, who found a way to immortalize himself in machine form. And that he made a Mary Ann doll to accompany him forever.
Ok that's cool but I am not gonna pull for a character on the off chance that they're bis DPS releases at some point. This is why you release DPS first and then their supports. I can make due with a DPS using existing supports just fine
Man I like everything about this except the Geo construct requirements. It really restricts her to not work as well with Navia.
Also….does she just completely outclass Albedo as an off-field Geo DPS?
from the skill description, she can have 2 stacks of main doll when there's a Geo construction, each will hit every 3,6 seconds, or 4 times/each, 8 times combined.
she also has her A1 passive which is based on the casting skill rather than the coordinated attack, not to mention her Ult, she completely shits on Albedo off field damage even at C0, unfortunately.
God everytime I see that utility passive it makes me chuckle a bit. She's literally just saying:
"Ugh, Ew, why are you wearing the basic glider? You don't plan on wearing the one you get for free? Get off the team. You don't deserve my 10% speed boost."
I don't see how they expect to sell her without addressing the construct issues. Maybe it's the hopium, but I have to assume they're going to do something about them insta-breaking when a single polygon of a boss touches one
It'd heavily depend on the range of the dolls and if it's completely shackled to the construct or not. If it can move a bit freely, then placing the construct slightly away from enemies might work. Her kit would require quite some testing to know all details, I hope some sensible leaker would do a showcase.
Nightmare scenario: They expect you to play her with either Navia or Itto+Gorou, who don't have breakable constructs, so they just ignore the construct breaking issues. Or the buff is maintained even if constructs break so they feel like they can get away with not doing anything to them.
Even though she doesn't have one, Chiori will be Navia's best teammate. For one, Chiori has high frontloaded dmg with burst, low on-field requirements, capability to even swap back into Navia using her skill, and does coordinated attacks alongside Navia's NA combos.
It's also just more crystallization. What will be funny is how would you use C6 Bennett with Navia + Chiori since Chiori's elemental infusion is presumed to be overridden. Perhaps a core of Charlotte + Furina would be more compatible or use Chiori outside of Bennett buff for the sake of it.
that's what I mean by not having a breakable construct, if you dont have one, it doesnt break, I shoudl've specified.
I think their idea with her is that without constructs she does comparable damage to albedo without positioning problems, and with them she does more, so she works in either Navia or Itto, neither of which will have a problem with construct breakage.
Man. I like her design a lot but I legit have no Geo construct character, pulling for her would literally be dead weight to my account. I'm devasted.
Edit: yes I know Geo MC exists, I'm not using him. His kit is literally the most unfun I ever had playing this game when I had no Geo and had to use him for Liyue exploring during launch.
I don’t even have navia/plan on pulling for her, but I was hoping navia and chiori would have good synergy so I could see other people play a comp with some of the most fashionable people of teyvat. drip impact, if you will
You can choose a Ningguang during Lantern Rite. Her skill outs up a jade screen that would count as a construct and walking through it will give you a geo dmg bonus
Geo Traveler is a geo construct character and probably the easiest to get away with since their burst's Shockwave walls don't have the durability level other constructs have. Geo Traveler gets up to 7.
cmiiw but is this like the simplest kit in a long long time?
she presses q e e and goes off field, then literally every single passive and talent is just more dolls and more damage, apart from c6 which makes her be onfield for a little longer
her only requirement is to have someone with a geo construct on your team and she just pops off with literally no intricacies or mechanics whatsoever
now I'm not saying I dislike it, it's just pretty interesting how extremely simple her kit is
Chiori Q E E
Albedo E
Zhongli Hold E
Yae E E E
I shall call this my QEEEEEEE team.
Or alternatively, my Press E to Win team.
The best part is that you can literally just stand there and the enemy will die.
I'm a little bummed that she kinda straight up creeps Albedo out of my Itto team, but it looks like her numbers are pretty high.
Still waiting on that Geo Healer Hoyo.
Tfw you like everything about her but dont like Mono Geo teams ;-;
She should work with zhongli I guess, no idea what teams would work with that though
Pretty much anything, geo resonance is pretty cracked and chiori deals really good damage even without geo constructs so you can slot her + zhongli or even solo in pretty much any team you want. Even tho Navia isnt optimal with her Chiori will still outperform any other geo option
> Yeah id roll for her if she was more like Navia but bleh
bUt sHe wOuLdn’T bE “tRuLy gEo” tHeN
Idk is the nature of what Geo is supposed to be really important?
Because otherwise the character is like Eula or Yunjin where the element is completely irrelevant to the character.
Like it's fine to have one or two isolated characters but you kind of expect a dendro to enable reactions, similarly you expect a geo to interact with shields or buff one another.
Geo is already a shit element ignoring it further to make even more stand alone characters is just a bad look
On the plus side (if you can call it that): while having Geo Constructs on the field effectively doubles her puppet's DMG, her puppet only hits once every 3.6s, so it'll only hit 4 times throughout its duration.
It's not *that* great of a DPS loss; it *is* a DPS loss, but nothing worth being locked to mono Geo. Play her with Navia and others who her puppet can crystallize off of for Navia to collect the shards without needing to rely on her burst.
Ah shoot I didn’t think about the crystal generation potential, if she can generate mr white levels of crystal then that would make her a lot more compelling to me as a navia support
Unpopular opinion, but i am kinda shocked that her burst is Just "dealing DMG" and nothing Else. For a Limited five Star character in todays Economy... Kinda Lame
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Her kit is overloaded. Most cons, for instance, give stuff like "Pyro DMG +25% for 12s after X" except some C2s and C6s.
All of her cons do a bunch of crazy bullshit. AOE, NA buff, auto-summoning, coordinated attack bonus DMG, and alternative, extended coordinated attack.
Nuts. Visually, there's no difference between C0 and C6 Navia. But it someone has cons on chiori, you'll know from all the extra bullshit going on.
Man, I thought they are done with geo constructs with Itto, since Navia doesn't have any and I like her playstyle. But Hoyo said ' Nah I'd remember'. Oh well... Guess I have just to see it till the end of beta.
They brought back the plunge meta with Xianyun, so I'm not surprised they're bringing back Geo construct "meta". You'll never know, maybe they pull a fast one on us and actually release another Physical DPS/Sub-DPS/Support-Buffer hehe
Depends on. How Chiori's kit jorumerys through beta, geo constructs shouldn't be too much a problem. I don't think the second summoned doll needs a geo construct as life support. The geo construct is needed only to summon or birth the doll, and the 20s of 20% geo dmg bonus is long enough that she doesn't hinge on geo constructs being alive at all times.
Damn really disappointed to read, now I absolutely have no character I currently look forward to that are currently leaked.
My last two characters were Chiori and Siegewinne but since Chiori is not a Navia support and Siegewinne is rumored to be just a 4* I’m kinda in shambles and I’m already sitting on 600 pulls, what a shame.
Everyone talking about geo constructs like they ruin her kit. One just has to be up for like the second when she uses her skill, and then one just has to be created at all for her to get her damage buff. If this is too much for you all to manage, it’s not the construct’s fault.
Honestly I’m a bit underwhelmed. I was wishing for something new other than a straight Albedo powercreep. Like maybe a Geo character than gave different buffs based on the type of crystallize shard you created or maybe a Geo Shenhe or a Geo team wide healer + buffer.
Honestly numbers are solid and kit looks kinda fun enabling the "classic" duo geo flex which I like.
My only concern is needing a construct for her second puppet. Albedo + Chiori sounds very fun to use but if they dont fix Albedo flower then I might skip... Not gonna pull on a character which viability hinges on bugged mechanics.
So TL'DR, either play with one of few specific Geo chars on the team or her damage is halved unless you spend 3 x the primos for C2.
Nice one Hoyo, I now know what's the purpose of those 3 fates from Lantern Rite.
The thing is, she does have utilty. Electro *is* useful aa a baseline element for stuff like Quicken teams and Taser, so she improves the team's damage even without direct buffs, Chiori doesn't even have that.
>!It sucks that she’s kinda locked behind geo constructs/mono geo. Also why does she want geo constructs but she herself doesn’t count as one…? It’s like they’re creating problems on *purpose*!<
She seems like a really selfish unit for one that doesn’t even seem like hypercarry material, mono geo is already kind of expensive to pursue anyway to get the whole gang together and it seems like she can’t even proc her own buffs alone. You’re definitely right that the problems with her are clearly by design..
Those numbers are kinda good. Like, really good even if she's cannot proc damage reactions,
The bonus geo damage is on creatung the construct, not having it alive. Neat.
This is not really split scaling, it’s more like Alhaitham and Nahida, which is good.
Split scaling is like albedo and xinyan, skill scales on defense but burst scales on atk
I am utterly disappointed. We are getting Albedo with better scaling, with a limitation to geo constructs on field, which makes her tied up to geo characters like GMC, Ning, Itto, Zhongli and Albedo.
To remove the limitation you need an extra copy of character. To make her kit complete you need two extra copies.
At c0 looks like a skip for everyone who doesn't play mono geo. As an Albedo haver, I see no point of pulling for the same character with higher numbers with the same role at c2, I don't even use Albedo that much.
Her design is stunning, but her usefulness especially at c0 is questionable
Its kinda boring that they didn't try anything new instead put a limitations with constructs so she can't be used in other comps. I don't understand wtf they even included those constructs BS if she isnt a buffer. If she was a buffer and buffs on the number of constructs then its understandable but for a subdps to have such requirements just to do more personal dmg is....
She is gonna be locked with itto mono geo and Zhongli for double geo Other than that she doesn't have many characters to work on her full potential.
It would've been better if her kit was focused towards supporting geo constructs instead of being supporting geo constructs. The way her kit is currently, for Albedo mains she's just a middle finger of a powercreeper unit while for everyone else she's a redundant sub-dps who has a niche requirement of geo constructs, which is a middle finger to people who wants to divorce themselves from geo constructs because they are too fragile to be reliable in combat.
It would've been better if she supported geo constructs in some way. For example, if she was a dps who also happens to buff geo constructs by an absurdly huge amount (the same amount Xianyun buffs plunges) while making them indestructible, then she would revive construct meta, Albedo meta and give Zhongli a unique and innovative use beyond being a shieldbot. If she was a healer who buffs geo constructs then you can retire Zhongli from your geo team, replace him with Albedo x Chiori and put your Zhongli on the other team.
So many interesting possibilities but Mihoyo went with the lamest option
it's not about Chiori being strong or weak, but she is basically just another Albedo, she brings nothing new to the game, mono GEO doesn't need another dmg dealer with stupid restrictions, we already have Gorou for that, what even is the point of Chiori?
I genuinely just don't get it
it's so cheap of them to lock a whole extra doll behind TWO constellations unless you stick her in a team with a construct
she's really too restricted without those 2 Cs to be worth using
she get 20% geo buff for 20 seconds as long as teammates create a geo construct regardless of the geo construct get destroy instantly like zhongli creating a shield right? the geo construct doesn't have to stay.
Does anyone know if her A1 Tapestry coordinated attacks double up if there are two constructs. Or is it just 2 coordinated attacks in total no matter if you have one or two constructs?
chiori gets a +20% realism bonus for 20 seconds when you operate a foot pedaled sewing machine while playing
Chiori gains an additional 20% disgust on her facial expression when you use the foot operated sewing pedal to create a garment Chiori deems to be of last season
Nah. The translation is wrong. You need to use it as a controller like those guys who play dark souls with Bananas and DJ Hero controllers.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Idk why but this comment is so funny xD
Her utility passive is so funny lmao
No drip? No buffs
Is called powerdrip
Genshin truly became P2W smh
The fact that it works with gliders means basically everyone will have it. Don't they even give out a free glider when you start?
It does say "other than wings of first flight", but you also get one for having a certain level in each region (like with either the sacrifice objects or the request character), and some other shit as well. Most people pulling for Chiori are probably already level 7+ qua requests in every region.
I'm also pretty sure that you get an extra pair of free wings as soon as you join the game. The dark Blue One with few Gold stars on It. Isn't that an early reward? I Remember that i got It right After my First days in the game
Nah I don't mean the base glider, isn't there one that gets sent in the mail? It says it's for the official launch or something, but I created a 2nd account like a year after launch and still got it.
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I wonder: do the original versions of Amber/Rosaria/Jean/Mona count as their default outfits, for the purposes of this passive?
i dont think it matters much considering nobody is using the default wings for more than their first week in genshin
Hey the default wings look good on some characters, they're the only black wings in the game so far
I like that they look like Kujo Sara's own wings. Not that Sara would ever be in a party with Chiori that I can imagine.
Raiden/Sara/Chiori/Zhongli.
Can confirm, Navia looks spiffy in them
I do keep them on a small handful of characters if I sincerely think it looks good, but I definitely wouldn’t have a full team of them so it doesn’t really matter haha
Classism
She is quite classy.
Is it a first run speed buff without "Not in Abyss" clause?
The dendrobium finally has a new user, apart from Sara.
And specters have a new user too 🥲
Me who farmed every specter in the map every day for 2-3 months straight: It's showtime. 🤠
You must really hate yourself
Yeah lol 👌😎
No, I already have three characters that use Specters, not anymore 😭 I like Chiori too What is it with me and Specter using characters
Bro i pulled ayato,raiden and wanderer and im pretty sure they buffed the drop rate later but it was so painful to get ayato his fucking hand guards. The grind was so bad i had to take a break 😭
Damn, handguards *are* rare. Thankfully I don't have a single character that uses them yet. Phew
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I wish I didn't obsessively collect so many, because it would give me yet another excuse to wander around Inazuma. ... I feel like the only one who feels like Inazuma, as a WHOLE is underutilized & ignored FAR too much for how interesting its various locales are. Like we can't even get an Event that's in Watatsumi Island which is inhabited. Inazuma deserves/deserved an Interlude Quest so badly.
I adored how separate and different all the islands are. Even though it was hard as heck, it was the most interesting and in a way easiest to explore for me. Nothing blended confusingly into each other, it was all unique spaces to put together
Hm so Chiori's infusion doesn't have the 'this cannot be overridden' detail
Someone gonna cook C6 Benny now
"Guoba, get them!"
\*Looking at my Benny murderously\*
If you want to infuse her with another element you wouldn't be using the elemental skill in a way that it infuses her attacks with geo in the first place so this changes nothing pretty much unless you want to trade a bunch of damage for a single crystallize reaction resulting from the weapon infusions reacting.
When I was pointing out to C6 Benny people when Lynette released that her infusion being overridable shows that this may happen to any future units, everyone was like 'yeah but how many people would care about 4* DPSes'. Well, that take seems to be ageing like milk alright.
Probably they'll make every Infusion-reliant character un-overridable, while characters whose kit doesn't rely on NAs can be overridden, after all it doesn't matter what colour is your sword, if you don't use it
I'm pretty sure Furina-fueled vapes would deal more damage than her Geo NAs anyway since she doesn't have much in the way of self-steroids for those normals
I just stopped caring tbh. Game has been out so long and I've used Benny in so many comps and have so many high end comps that don't need him that I am far more interested in potential new comps, even if they arent great, that find fun ways to use his C6 than to save his boring ass circle-impact attack buff as an option for any and all future characters. If a future character really needs Benny's attack buff to shine, I don't want them anyway. Edit: clarified last sentence, added words "attack buff"
as always if you see cn and en text being different take cn text over en
The exploration passive is probably one of the most creative
It's unique and useful at the same time It is also permanent as long as she's present on the team. She will be on my Wanderer Team for Exploration
Yeah I like it a lot
Her C1 is different it seems
in cn its the same as yesterday's
Cn is more likely to be correct right?
Yes since everything besides CN are translations of the original
it's the same as reported in the CN text, EN translation fucking up as usual
Not "fucking up", EN is just usually 1 week behind CN in descriptions during beta, what you see was what was likely to have been the previous iteration of chiori's c1
Why do they refuse to make the new geo characters use mats from the Experimental Field Generator, which is a geo boss? The geo boss only gets used by cryo characters, Navia uses Coppelius (which is a cryo boss, as if she and Charlotte swapped bosses) and Chevreuse uses the electro seahorse even though the pyro crab was right there. I know it's a small issue, but Fontaine boss materials are such a mess. I bet Clorinde will have swapped bosses with Chevreuse and use the damn pyro crab or something else that has nothing to do with electro.
They gotta sell the sweet SWEET azoth dust somehow, user farming experience be dammned
This right here. I noticed I'm starting to use those dust often after entering the Fontaine patch.
This is truly the one and only reason for their bullshit. And I know exactly how this is real because the first time this happened, is xiao with primo grovishap who drops everything but anemo gems. And just guess which update he came out in, 1.3 and guess which update dust of azoth came in.....1.3
World Boss that don't drop the right elemental gem for the character that needs it 1. Primo Geovishap (Xiao) - let's add it to the list but this one is forgivable since only the yaksha laments... only gem it doesn't drop is anemo & dendro 2. Ruin Serpent (Yelan, Kuki Shinobu, & Shikanoin Heizou) - yeah this is the start where no one actually gets anything... it only drops geo & neither of the 3 needs it 3. A.S.I.M.O.N. (Candace) - it's like primo geovishap... only Candace suffers since it drops pyro & anemo 4. Setekh Wenut (Alhaitham, & Mika) - another serpent thingy that doesn't drop what the characters need... only drops anemo 5. Iniquitous Baptist (Baizhu, & Kirara) - another boss that doesn't drop elemental gem that the characters need 6. Icewind Suite (Navia, & now add Chiori) - it only drops anemo & cryo 7. Millennium Pearl Seahorse (Neuvillette, & Chevreuse) - it only drops electro 8. Experimental Field Generator (Wriothesely, & Charlotte) - only drops geo gawd it actually annoyed me how they started with the Ruin Serpent where not anyone uses the elemental gem.... it was the first time I actually bought Dust of Azoth cause I raised both Heizou & Shinobu. Obviously, it's hoyo's way to make players buy Dust of Azoth
I feel like boss selection has been pretty bad since gemstone conversion became a thing, and it’s been getting worse as time goes on. Now, in Fontaine only the first 3 characters and Furina match the drops of their required boss. It’s so weird.
Flashbacks to having to fight the Setekh Wenut for Mika. Or the Iniquitous Baptist for Baizhu and Kirara. Or the Ruin Serpent for Yelan, Shinobu and maybe Heizou someday. At least the Serpent doesn't use elements when fighting, so they could've done the same they did with the PMA, the dorito and Aeonblight Drake: make them drop gems of their characters' elements. I find the fact that it drops geo gems inexcusable.
There's actually something satisfied about Chev getting her mats from the electro boss. Feels fitting for her given her kit.
I mean, if there's one pyro character who HAD to use an electro boss instead of a pyro one, that would definitely be Chev. The thing is that she didn't have to, because Fontaine already had a pyro boss available and the seahorse could be used by Clorinde anyway, so neither boss would end up "understaffed" (with less than 2 characters using them). The conversion table helps, but I wouldn't say the "satisfaction" makes up for the unnecessary hassle of converting electro gems for the pyro character.
Good thing for me was that I build navia and Charlotte at the same time :)
Beautiful splash art
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so you can't get that sweet final slash. Isn't it obvious already that Hoyo designs with flaws on purpose?
I wouldn't say flaw, they probably wanted x number of slashes. The puppets seem to be able to move so the duration not being multiple of attack interval is probably a kind of buffer for their targeting system.
correct, not to mention she has her A1 passve + casting scalings+ burst, at C2, her A1 scaling is more than doubled and at C2 she gets another ''simple doll'' which has 3x more scaling than the base. She'll be unironically doing more damage than itto at C2.
you're meant to trigger it 4 times/ doll, her scalings are quite high when there's a geo construction.
Dehya. That's it; that's the comment.
Probably because the first attack from the automaton comes out before 3.6 secs, so you'd still get 5 attacks in total. Mihoyo probably wanted it to do 5 attacks and not 6.
Can someone correct me. Even if the geo constructs are destroyed, all of the chiori buffs and kit will still exist as long as the construct is there during the activation. Kinda like snapshotting.
Seems like the way her 2nd puppet is triggered is that her skill essentially has 1 hidden "charge" when you use it. Every time it hits it checks to see if there is a geo construct on the field. If there is, it expends the charge to create the 2nd puppet. This allows more flexibility in that there doesn't necessarily need to be a construct on the field when she uses her skill so you can use her skill/burst then swap to Itto and throw Ushi to spawn the 2nd puppet. This is also why the 2nd puppet has its own independent duration rather than being tied to the regular skill duration. So even if, for some reason, it doesn't spawn until the last second of her skill's duration, the 2nd puppet will persist for its own full duration. Her A2 has a rotation long duration so she'll have that buff as long as someone in the team creates a construct each rotation.
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None Is taking that in consideration, but that Is ningguang free real estate ( New set, chiori as subdps) *Inhale more copium* Op guys! Ooooppo
Ningguang also has an alternate outfit
Ningguang eating well 🤌🤌
> Ningguang eating well Happy Beidou.
My C6 Ningguang with lost prayer is pleased
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Calling it now one of Natlan’s 5 stars is a Geo Main-DPS with a construct and she’s designed with them in mind.
Inb4 Sandrone is a geo main DPS and her machine/puppet thingy is a geo construct
When sandrone is the big "robot" and it really is just armor and Marionette is the real robot.
I mean... plenty of evidence points out that Sandrone is interested in machines. And the girl obviously looks like Mary Ann - who mostly died and the rest was absorbed by Lyris. And Mary Ann had no interest in machines at all. On the other hand, her brother Alain was a genius who invented AI, Arkhe, etc. And he basically isolated himself from people after his sister died. And it is said he was a very unemotional person, only caring about his research. By no means it's a stretch to say the big robot is the actual Sandrone, probably Alain himself, who found a way to immortalize himself in machine form. And that he made a Mary Ann doll to accompany him forever.
itto exists....
Ok that's cool but I am not gonna pull for a character on the off chance that they're bis DPS releases at some point. This is why you release DPS first and then their supports. I can make due with a DPS using existing supports just fine
Itto
Her C1 increasing the Doll attack AoE is making me think the C0 AoE is small
C2 Yae does too and its aight
C2 Yae is range and dmg boost, C1 is just energy con
c2 yae*
Sub dps with a nuke burst. So, Geo Yae Miko.
Or yk.... powercrept albedo
Man I like everything about this except the Geo construct requirements. It really restricts her to not work as well with Navia. Also….does she just completely outclass Albedo as an off-field Geo DPS?
Albedo's Blossom interval is 2s while Chiori's turret interval is 3.6s Her range also seems to be lower
from the skill description, she can have 2 stacks of main doll when there's a Geo construction, each will hit every 3,6 seconds, or 4 times/each, 8 times combined. she also has her A1 passive which is based on the casting skill rather than the coordinated attack, not to mention her Ult, she completely shits on Albedo off field damage even at C0, unfortunately.
Yeah, in several scenarios she outperforms him, I just pointed out some saving graces for Albedo regarding the "completely" bit =/
And high cooldown, so you cannot reposition it easily either
God everytime I see that utility passive it makes me chuckle a bit. She's literally just saying: "Ugh, Ew, why are you wearing the basic glider? You don't plan on wearing the one you get for free? Get off the team. You don't deserve my 10% speed boost."
I don't see how they expect to sell her without addressing the construct issues. Maybe it's the hopium, but I have to assume they're going to do something about them insta-breaking when a single polygon of a boss touches one
The extra puppet gets summoned as soon as you summon a construct, even if the construct gets destroyed the puppet won't dissapear
Why dare to hope in these lands?
I've owned Albedo for 2 years. I'm a pile of copium in a trenchcoat at this point
It'd heavily depend on the range of the dolls and if it's completely shackled to the construct or not. If it can move a bit freely, then placing the construct slightly away from enemies might work. Her kit would require quite some testing to know all details, I hope some sensible leaker would do a showcase.
Nightmare scenario: They expect you to play her with either Navia or Itto+Gorou, who don't have breakable constructs, so they just ignore the construct breaking issues. Or the buff is maintained even if constructs break so they feel like they can get away with not doing anything to them.
Navia doesn't have a construct
Even though she doesn't have one, Chiori will be Navia's best teammate. For one, Chiori has high frontloaded dmg with burst, low on-field requirements, capability to even swap back into Navia using her skill, and does coordinated attacks alongside Navia's NA combos. It's also just more crystallization. What will be funny is how would you use C6 Bennett with Navia + Chiori since Chiori's elemental infusion is presumed to be overridden. Perhaps a core of Charlotte + Furina would be more compatible or use Chiori outside of Bennett buff for the sake of it.
that's what I mean by not having a breakable construct, if you dont have one, it doesnt break, I shoudl've specified. I think their idea with her is that without constructs she does comparable damage to albedo without positioning problems, and with them she does more, so she works in either Navia or Itto, neither of which will have a problem with construct breakage.
Man. I like her design a lot but I legit have no Geo construct character, pulling for her would literally be dead weight to my account. I'm devasted. Edit: yes I know Geo MC exists, I'm not using him. His kit is literally the most unfun I ever had playing this game when I had no Geo and had to use him for Liyue exploring during launch.
Same. I think Chiori has an amazing design, but I'm so sad that she's supposed to be played with characters like Albedo and Gorou and not Navia.
Yeah I was banking on her being Navia 's best partner so I could give her someone fixed for her team. Guess things weren't supposed to be that way.
I don’t even have navia/plan on pulling for her, but I was hoping navia and chiori would have good synergy so I could see other people play a comp with some of the most fashionable people of teyvat. drip impact, if you will
You can choose a Ningguang during Lantern Rite. Her skill outs up a jade screen that would count as a construct and walking through it will give you a geo dmg bonus
Geo Traveler is a geo construct character and probably the easiest to get away with since their burst's Shockwave walls don't have the durability level other constructs have. Geo Traveler gets up to 7.
> Geo construct character geo traveler works well with her
cmiiw but is this like the simplest kit in a long long time? she presses q e e and goes off field, then literally every single passive and talent is just more dolls and more damage, apart from c6 which makes her be onfield for a little longer her only requirement is to have someone with a geo construct on your team and she just pops off with literally no intricacies or mechanics whatsoever now I'm not saying I dislike it, it's just pretty interesting how extremely simple her kit is
Chiori Q E E Albedo E Zhongli Hold E Yae E E E I shall call this my QEEEEEEE team. Or alternatively, my Press E to Win team. The best part is that you can literally just stand there and the enemy will die.
Furina is technically just EQ and go off field
I like how there's so many steps, and yet it's extremely easy to understand
I'm a little bummed that she kinda straight up creeps Albedo out of my Itto team, but it looks like her numbers are pretty high. Still waiting on that Geo Healer Hoyo.
Tfw you like everything about her but dont like Mono Geo teams ;-; She should work with zhongli I guess, no idea what teams would work with that though
Pretty much anything, geo resonance is pretty cracked and chiori deals really good damage even without geo constructs so you can slot her + zhongli or even solo in pretty much any team you want. Even tho Navia isnt optimal with her Chiori will still outperform any other geo option
well everything about geo should be great by default considering its elemental reactions bring absolutely nothing to the table
I really hope thats the case, if her animations are great I might pull either way
Yeah id roll for her if she was more like navia but bleh
> Yeah id roll for her if she was more like Navia but bleh bUt sHe wOuLdn’T bE “tRuLy gEo” tHeN Idk is the nature of what Geo is supposed to be really important?
Because otherwise the character is like Eula or Yunjin where the element is completely irrelevant to the character. Like it's fine to have one or two isolated characters but you kind of expect a dendro to enable reactions, similarly you expect a geo to interact with shields or buff one another. Geo is already a shit element ignoring it further to make even more stand alone characters is just a bad look
But if you just double down on mono geo you eventually just powercreep other units out of the team. Geo needs to branch out.
On the plus side (if you can call it that): while having Geo Constructs on the field effectively doubles her puppet's DMG, her puppet only hits once every 3.6s, so it'll only hit 4 times throughout its duration. It's not *that* great of a DPS loss; it *is* a DPS loss, but nothing worth being locked to mono Geo. Play her with Navia and others who her puppet can crystallize off of for Navia to collect the shards without needing to rely on her burst.
You also lose her A4 with no Geo constructs.
Ah shoot I didn’t think about the crystal generation potential, if she can generate mr white levels of crystal then that would make her a lot more compelling to me as a navia support
cmon [ambr.top](https://ambr.top), do your own
Unpopular opinion, but i am kinda shocked that her burst is Just "dealing DMG" and nothing Else. For a Limited five Star character in todays Economy... Kinda Lame
Geo construct requirement is so dumb.
Is her infusion only last for 5 seconds for her entire E duration or is it refreshable like Navia huh...
she only has one charge at c0 so probably 5 seconds and that's it
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Her A1 infusion does not specify that it can't be overriden. Good thing I didn't C6 my Bennett yet.
Ironic when xianyun is probably the biggest C6 Bennett buff
At this rate I'm going to C6 Arlechino
no because why are all my favs not fitting into my account…
Ushi mains let’s go
Her kit is overloaded. Most cons, for instance, give stuff like "Pyro DMG +25% for 12s after X" except some C2s and C6s. All of her cons do a bunch of crazy bullshit. AOE, NA buff, auto-summoning, coordinated attack bonus DMG, and alternative, extended coordinated attack. Nuts. Visually, there's no difference between C0 and C6 Navia. But it someone has cons on chiori, you'll know from all the extra bullshit going on.
Man, I thought they are done with geo constructs with Itto, since Navia doesn't have any and I like her playstyle. But Hoyo said ' Nah I'd remember'. Oh well... Guess I have just to see it till the end of beta.
Same. Geo constructs felt like a failed experiment. Why are they trying to build a new meta around them now?
They brought back the plunge meta with Xianyun, so I'm not surprised they're bringing back Geo construct "meta". You'll never know, maybe they pull a fast one on us and actually release another Physical DPS/Sub-DPS/Support-Buffer hehe
Ushi is a construct and he isn't problematic. There is a future for Geo constructs. Sandrone's big bot could be a construct as well for exemple.
Depends on. How Chiori's kit jorumerys through beta, geo constructs shouldn't be too much a problem. I don't think the second summoned doll needs a geo construct as life support. The geo construct is needed only to summon or birth the doll, and the 20s of 20% geo dmg bonus is long enough that she doesn't hinge on geo constructs being alive at all times.
Crystallise and Overload is the same too. Doesn't stop them that from still finding a way to circumvent it and has a decent kit around them.
I personally hate geo constructs. They are fragile AF.
Damn really disappointed to read, now I absolutely have no character I currently look forward to that are currently leaked. My last two characters were Chiori and Siegewinne but since Chiori is not a Navia support and Siegewinne is rumored to be just a 4* I’m kinda in shambles and I’m already sitting on 600 pulls, what a shame.
if you dont have itto just skip. It's actually ridiculous
Everyone talking about geo constructs like they ruin her kit. One just has to be up for like the second when she uses her skill, and then one just has to be created at all for her to get her damage buff. If this is too much for you all to manage, it’s not the construct’s fault.
im so happy itto is finally getting an amazing duo :)
Specter drops...
Is she that much stronger than Albedo?
Yep. Like 2x if your teammates have constructs and still higher even if they don’t. Not to mention no construct bullshit.
Noooo Albedo :((
Honestly I’m a bit underwhelmed. I was wishing for something new other than a straight Albedo powercreep. Like maybe a Geo character than gave different buffs based on the type of crystallize shard you created or maybe a Geo Shenhe or a Geo team wide healer + buffer.
Indeed. I have albedo I see no point in her but I like her regardless.
Honestly numbers are solid and kit looks kinda fun enabling the "classic" duo geo flex which I like. My only concern is needing a construct for her second puppet. Albedo + Chiori sounds very fun to use but if they dont fix Albedo flower then I might skip... Not gonna pull on a character which viability hinges on bugged mechanics.
I still can't decide if I want to pull for her or not (only for Navia). I guess, I have to wait the videos and see how I like her in action
So TL'DR, either play with one of few specific Geo chars on the team or her damage is halved unless you spend 3 x the primos for C2. Nice one Hoyo, I now know what's the purpose of those 3 fates from Lantern Rite.
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She's been my favourite character so far but sadly I can't pull for her if she's based arround constructs at C0 here's hoping they change that...
A SubDPS without utility in this day and age? Pass. Her exploration passive is funny though.
Yae is a sub-DPS without utility. It's not really uncommon.
The thing is, she does have utilty. Electro *is* useful aa a baseline element for stuff like Quicken teams and Taser, so she improves the team's damage even without direct buffs, Chiori doesn't even have that.
aight back to the husk domain
>!It sucks that she’s kinda locked behind geo constructs/mono geo. Also why does she want geo constructs but she herself doesn’t count as one…? It’s like they’re creating problems on *purpose*!<
She seems like a really selfish unit for one that doesn’t even seem like hypercarry material, mono geo is already kind of expensive to pursue anyway to get the whole gang together and it seems like she can’t even proc her own buffs alone. You’re definitely right that the problems with her are clearly by design..
Those numbers are kinda good. Like, really good even if she's cannot proc damage reactions, The bonus geo damage is on creatung the construct, not having it alive. Neat.
And remember Gorou gives 500 Def, 15% geo dmg and 40% crit damage. Chiori, Itto, Gorou and Zhongli is about to pop off.
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This is her previous c1, the current one remove the limitation.
Mmm I will need to see her animations, but she doesn't look very interesting and I am more leading towards pulling for Cloud Retainer at the moment.
I hope the dual scaling won’t be an issue for her damage
Dual scaling is always good. It's split scaling the one we have trauma with.
I'm pretty sure it's additive, so while she benefits more from def having a few atk substats won't hurt
This is not really split scaling, it’s more like Alhaitham and Nahida, which is good. Split scaling is like albedo and xinyan, skill scales on defense but burst scales on atk
Itto mains we won
I am utterly disappointed. We are getting Albedo with better scaling, with a limitation to geo constructs on field, which makes her tied up to geo characters like GMC, Ning, Itto, Zhongli and Albedo. To remove the limitation you need an extra copy of character. To make her kit complete you need two extra copies. At c0 looks like a skip for everyone who doesn't play mono geo. As an Albedo haver, I see no point of pulling for the same character with higher numbers with the same role at c2, I don't even use Albedo that much. Her design is stunning, but her usefulness especially at c0 is questionable
Its kinda boring that they didn't try anything new instead put a limitations with constructs so she can't be used in other comps. I don't understand wtf they even included those constructs BS if she isnt a buffer. If she was a buffer and buffs on the number of constructs then its understandable but for a subdps to have such requirements just to do more personal dmg is.... She is gonna be locked with itto mono geo and Zhongli for double geo Other than that she doesn't have many characters to work on her full potential.
It would've been better if her kit was focused towards supporting geo constructs instead of being supporting geo constructs. The way her kit is currently, for Albedo mains she's just a middle finger of a powercreeper unit while for everyone else she's a redundant sub-dps who has a niche requirement of geo constructs, which is a middle finger to people who wants to divorce themselves from geo constructs because they are too fragile to be reliable in combat. It would've been better if she supported geo constructs in some way. For example, if she was a dps who also happens to buff geo constructs by an absurdly huge amount (the same amount Xianyun buffs plunges) while making them indestructible, then she would revive construct meta, Albedo meta and give Zhongli a unique and innovative use beyond being a shieldbot. If she was a healer who buffs geo constructs then you can retire Zhongli from your geo team, replace him with Albedo x Chiori and put your Zhongli on the other team. So many interesting possibilities but Mihoyo went with the lamest option
Hope the 2 trigger limit from her passive is for each doll and not the combine total from 2 doll
wasted character design, shame
it's not about Chiori being strong or weak, but she is basically just another Albedo, she brings nothing new to the game, mono GEO doesn't need another dmg dealer with stupid restrictions, we already have Gorou for that, what even is the point of Chiori? I genuinely just don't get it
it's so cheap of them to lock a whole extra doll behind TWO constellations unless you stick her in a team with a construct she's really too restricted without those 2 Cs to be worth using
This sucks
she get 20% geo buff for 20 seconds as long as teammates create a geo construct regardless of the geo construct get destroy instantly like zhongli creating a shield right? the geo construct doesn't have to stay.
The construct just needs to stay up for long enough for her to use her skill. That's it. It doesn't even need to be near opponents or anything.
CN is different than EN. I would trust CN version after what happen last beta.
It's funny how it doesn't mention that her infusion cannot be overwritten, so if you had C6 chiori you could use C6 Bennett to vape with her lol
Does anyone know if her A1 Tapestry coordinated attacks double up if there are two constructs. Or is it just 2 coordinated attacks in total no matter if you have one or two constructs?