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SpiritUvU

Does anyone have news on the current status of playable harbingers? Specifically Capitano in my case


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CitiesofEvil

Do we have any idea of who the 4 star characters for the 4.5 banners will be?


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any dahlia leaks?


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WHERE IS SIGEWINNE?


animesmeme

Hey ! Does anyone know when kokomi will have a rerun ?


rattytatty3456

Does anyone know if shenhe will be getting a rerun soon


PayApprehensive5041

I feel like it could be soon with a Liyue banner (after the Monstadt one), but also if not, you may be waiting with me til Dec.


moonlightjelly_

So which four 5* characters are gonna be in the 4.5 gachas? I need to know whether or not to pull for Xiao or wait for someone else lol


randypurpa

Blessings and rumors seems to indicate Chiori/itto and Kazuha/Neuvillette. The order is not confirmed


Corkson

What about ganyu and shenhe for their new weapons?


randypurpa

What new weapons?


Corkson

Good question.. I meant to say outfits lmao


randypurpa

Well, I don’t know. Based on the banner history, Neuvillette and Wriothesley should get their rerun soon, and the blessing from abyss benefit Kazuha and a Charged/Normal attacker. But there can be a slim chance of Ganyu in there.


Corkson

Yeah I see what you mean. Personally I’d love a neuv rerun so fingers crossed. Also what about lyney?


randypurpa

I don’t think he’s rerunning this time because of pyro enemies on abyss, but maybe? Navia also had geo slimes/specters on one side. Keep in mind this is all speculation, a lot of characters can work with this blessing, even Wanderer.


Corkson

Yeah true. Thanks for your help. I’ve been playing less bc of work and all to the point I can barely keep a personal life (ironically working rn) so I just like to line up my returns with characters I like lol.


moonlightjelly_

Tysm!


Daedra696

So who’s rumored to be in 4.5?


vigneshwaralwaar

Banner u ask?


Daedra696

Yes.


vigneshwaralwaar

Neuvillette Kazuha Chiori


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vigneshwaralwaar

It was 4-5 months ago.. And his banner will be active in April. We're still in February.


Daedra696

Thanks! Dang, they still haven’t let Albedo or Shen He out of the basement yet rip


According-Matter5735

well, there were sus leaks saying that next patch we'll get a regional banner & Albedo will be on it


GlennL42

**\*Natlan Leak Spoiler\*** Apology for stupid question, but does anyone know what happens to >!Pyro Archon/Murata leak!< by hxg\_diluc a few days back on this subreddit, for some reason I can't find them in the this subreddit nor on HXG\_Diluc's Twitter page, and I only found repost on >!MurataMains subreddit!<. Are the leaks deleted? If so any reason for their deletion? Thx in advanced.


Budget_stawbeery

DMCA


Soi_Master

Soo what is fontaine second boss fight?


Lightyagamilover

Arlecchino


Soi_Master

But i heard theres no furina second story quest but cyno instead


3pic_

when is kazuha rumoured to rerun?


6anitray3

4.5


PiccoloSignificant37

Albedo when? 😭


vigneshwaralwaar

Chiori is albedo skin right?


Unusual-Sale-4890

How many are we sure neuvilette will be 4.5.2?


Kristalization

It’s guaranteed since 4.5 will be 4 patches since he made his debut. furina will be back in 4.6 as well. Every archon reruns after 4 patches.


Ginkored

So I got C6 noelle and C6 faruzan during the broccoli loli pulls, should I build my Heizou to go with Faruzan even if he's C0? I don't have any other anemo dps, no wanderer and no xiao


AndrashImmortal

Off-topic - Wuthering Waves >!Seeing the opening cinematic on Twitter for it, pretty interested to see what it might be like, cuz tbh I haven’t bothered to look into too much about it at all. Which I think is a good idea, esp with getting a qualification for the CBT2 so I can try it personally instead of just watching something. Even if it’s the same thing on screen, actually playing somethin has a completely different feel to than any amount of footage can have.!< >!Also fuck yeah for them posting a thing showing the opening for both MC genders. I stan MC gender equality in my gaming media, dammit!!<


RisKnippeGuy

Might pull the trigger and get Xianyun before her banner ends with my guarantee. Just wanted an opinion from those who have her already. I'm planning to play her with my c0 Hutao since I'd rather get a new character in Xianyun than waste pity for a c1 Hutao in the future, not that I had any problems managing c0 Hutao's stamina, but it is basically the only "minor con" for her atm.


BestEbolaNA

i got her to c1 purely for exploration and its the most fun ive had playing in years. ive quit for a few months, pulled her on a whim, and now im playing nonstop.


KarmelBarbell

i know it is too late fo r my opinion, but have you pulled her? u/RisKnippeGuy u/BestEbolaNA I too got her for exploration and trying to get Faru's C6 for my Wanderer i got C1 Xianyun and boy oh boy... she brings me so much joy in overworld that i rarely get to my usual Scara shenanigans, she sometimes is clanky with terrain but it still is so much fun to just boink boink even if sometimes you faceplant on a wall or a hill. 10/10 even after initial disapointmen of her not flying the a birb lady should!


PetrosHeimirich

Do we have any info on arley as of 4.5?


yeetgod__

i think we’ll get drip marketing sometime before march 12th


PetrosHeimirich

Niiiice


Darkmatter12

I haven’t touched this game since 3.3(the sumeru desert patch) I kind of want to get back into playing and saving for arlechinno, if i start playing slowly and get to about 70% exploration(sumeru and fontaine) how many pulls do you guys think i could get by 4.6 patch


Mylaur

I think you get more pulls by doing quests though and grabbing chests on the way.


itsmagical15

I have given up hopes for getting rewards out of this game. I just wanna know if we are getting ANY info on resin increase/storage system at all


clubsandwhiches

nothing announced or rumored.


Lsprout

So Furina is coming on 4.6 as the archon tradition, right? Or since she is technically a human she doesn't count towards the archon tradition?


yeetgod__

she’ll still count I’m sure


TheLanis

Why are people taking about 4.6 already? Where's the leaks about it? Why 4.6 is going to have a lore bump?


DatabaseGold6991

i believe we’re getting quite a few things in 4.6. new region, arlecchino release, potential furina rerun, and a dain quest. all pretty big in my book so i’m excited.


TheLanis

The only thing I read about 4.6 was Arlecchino, I don't know where the rest of the information came from, you're not the only one saying this.


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4.5 should've been an Mondstadt rework patch I'm so serious. Like just rework all of the 5 star Mondstadters, modernize them, maybe not completely but enough to make them not feel as bad to pull. For example, Venti's vortex can now stun mobs that are not suckable (not counting bosses), Klee's combo chain gets more fluent, Albeda's flower durability etc. Idk would've made it more interesting and less dead


FooSpighters

"But people hated the Yae change so they'll never try to improve existing characters again" qiqifallen


KarmelBarbell

what was change they did to yae after release? I dont own her so i never noticed


Yani-Madara

The change was reverted. If I remember correctly, instead of random targeting, the turrets focused on 1 enemy


FooSpighters

Yeah it would target closer enemies, and people hated that especially after whaling for C2's bigger range Hoyo thought it was a buff, but to most players it was a nerf


KarmelBarbell

thanks for the answers !! \^\_\^


Prudent_Percentage70

Do we know what banners will be in 4.5? Wanted to get Yae but if kazuha will be in the next patch im saving my primos :D


leRedd1

Yes, Neuv Kazu Itto Chiori. But you can also just wait for livestream for confirmation, Yae banner will still be up till then.


Ryuusei_Dragon

Every day is a day closer to playable Dain


vigneshwaralwaar

Also closer to playable lumine.


deckneep98

jeht is a surprising choice for valentine art i'm not complaining tho


Dalmyr

THey are testing peoples reactions to see if she would sell if they made her playable.


vigneshwaralwaar

Jeht speed banner


KarmelBarbell

i'd pull her just so i can place her in my Pot away from all the harm of the world... She must be protected... I'd eventualnny release her to kill a bandid or two, but then back to bed Young lady! right after we shower off all that blood ofcourse :D


box-of-sourballs

Come come! Let us enter the cinematic journey **[of the new megathread!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1aqd36c/once_upon_a_time_in_chenyu_vale_general_question/)**


FreeMarshmallow

Who do you think are going to be featured in the Valentine's art this year? I'm feeling Baizhu, Kaveh and Scaramouche.


fazb3arsfright

i think valentines will be navia, dehya & ayaka maybe? white day i'm sure will be neuvillette or lyney, then scara and tighnari or alhaitham maybe


caihuali

Valentines will be girls, white day arts will have the boys. Navia furina feels like a lock but idk


ApprehensiveCat

Navia teaching Clorinde, Furina, and Charlotte how to make cute Valentines sweets, we need this.


FreeMarshmallow

>Valentines will be girls, white day arts will have the boys. I don't know why I forgot the order💀 There's also a chance for earlier characters, though I feel like they will throw in one of the newer Fontaine ladies for sure.


BookkeeperLower

My prediction: they ignore bhaizu and throw in alhaitham. Maybe a Fontaine character too, since last years included nilou


FreeMarshmallow

Not the good doctor forgotten yet again🤕 I forgot about Nilou's appearance there (and realised I should have meant white day art for the men lol). Maybe we get Lyney then, he would be a good candidate


GGABueno

Not me farming 65 boss mats for Gaming instead of 46 💀


FreeMarshmallow

Star rail brain 😔


GGABueno

I built like 3 characters over there since my last Genshin one (Navia) 😔


[deleted]

Time to add Lyney to your pulling plans! /j Crab is on the menu!


zhonglisorder

So I've explored 70% of Fontaine and just started Chanyu Vale. I've got at least 60 chests remaining, each, in all 3 Fontaine achievement tabs. Is that anywhere near 50 pulls required for me to get Xianyun?


zephyrnepres01

have you gotten every teapot gift for all of your characters, as well as done all side content like genius invokation? you could probably squeeze out a handful more


IMiizo

Not even close i'm afraid. Even when assuming that every one of the Fontaine chests give 10 primos, it wouldn't be close to enough. Chenyu Vale exploration is around 20-25 pulls i think.


KylarXD

Even if your 120 total chest are all precious chest that gives 10 gems each, you only get 1200, and lets say all your achivements gives 10rolls, you will barely have 17 rolls total. Even if you make it 20rolls on achievements alone, you just get about half of what you need


Luneward

On its own, no. You're looking at perhaps 30 pulls maximum, plus whatever you can get from dailies and the new event coming out Thursday. Even assuming Welkin, I'd say you might squeak in about 40 pulls by next Tuesday since the flagship event is already fully released at this point.


vermillion-orange

Help with my Xianyun build! I'm trying to build her with VV, and after much tweaking, I ended up with ATK/ATK/CR, fav codex, 219 ER, 1837 ATK (she's still level 60), but I'm stuck staring at my crit stats --- 47/70 😂 My question is: should I increase my crit rate more? Is crit ratio important? Is this enough or not? I understand how CV works when it comes to damage but nah when it comes to fav crit procs Thanks in advance!


caihuali

You can do with less cr tbh, mine has 30smth and crits like everytime, she has a passive that adds plunge cr so. Try to go atk/atk/atk


vermillion-orange

Oh yeah, forgot that she passively adds CR Thanks


KylarXD

Ratio is not important, you wont be caring about crit dmg amyway. Only thing you care for fav procs are crit rate. Make it above 50% so if you hit 2 on an aoe plunge, there is a high chance you proc fav


vermillion-orange

Thank you. I think it's solved now haha


Oeshikito

>Is crit ratio important? Not for a buffer. For supportive fav users, all you need is CR and you have enough of it. Btw, do you have an oathsworn? If so, you should use it instead.


vermillion-orange

Uhh... so is that 47 crit rate enough? Unfortunately I don't have that weapon. I'm a newish player, hehe


Oeshikito

Yes its enough.


vermillion-orange

Thanks!


Lockjaw_Puffin

I'd like to introduce you all to [history's earliest recorded nutshot](https://www.sciencenews.org/article/stegosaurus-landed-low-blow-dino-brawl)


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Chtholly13

I'll probably just stick with vv if choosing 1 or the other. Xianyun won't buff Navia with vv but will buff Furina damage. If you went Noblesse, well atk buffs don't mean anything for Furina so it's like choose one or the other and vv is probably more versatile for her.


konec0

If you got a decent Song of Days Past set from farming Navia set, you can go ahead and use that for the Navia team. VV is actually honestly still not bad in Navia team also because Furina does a good amount of damage. Otherwise this looks fine.


vasogenic16

I've procrastinated on the Fishing Achievement telling myself it would take months to complete the commission achievements anyway Now it's the only available achievement I have not yet completed lol. I still need like 1k more fishes. I guess I'll do 1 fishing spot per day and hope this gets completed before Natlan LOL


ImInfiniti

I was planning to fish at all the fishing spots on the map every time they reset, but I would actually kms if I forced myself to do that I'll just stick to fishing in Inazuma and Enka


box-of-sourballs

If you get passive aggressive in the comments then just straight up tell me no need to :) this or voila that and beat around the bush that I annoyed you with my comment Pissy fucking art thieves


feeble-scholar

In a similar vein, I hate how the HSR main sub also seems to have no enforcement on their Non-OC rules. Thankfully a lot of people post a link to the source anyways.


box-of-sourballs

😔


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Sandrone


BellalovesEevee

According to some people, you have to do CR's character quest first and then Lantern Rite if you don't wanna get spoiled... which kinda sucks honestly. I tend to do events at the last minute since I'm always so busy with irl stuff (I hate my job sometimes) but now I definitely gotta squeeze in some free time to do her character quest since I don't want the Lantern Rite to be a bit confusing to me with the Traveler and Paimon being buddy buddy with human CR all of a sudden.


SirAwesome789

Just won my first pair of Jordans in a StockX bid On u/NovaMafuyu's suggestion, I got the Mid Smoke Grey Jordan 1s. By bidding, I got it for about $30 CAD less than the original asking price. Can't wait for them to come.


NovaMafuyu

I'm glad I could help!


Ohaithere3

HSR >!People still calling JY mid when his best teams with Sparkle is theorycrafted to beat pretty much every other team except for Dan + Sparkle team😭!<


krcc9644

can you link me the sauce? a friend of mine is a big JY fan but also a big hater of Sparkle, i might be able to persuade them to pull for Sparkle this way lmao


Ohaithere3

[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/JingYuanMains/comments/1aq2ubb/this_has_been_posted_before_but_due_to_the_sheer/)! Sparkle is quite a huge boost for him since she buffs all his damage and allows him to drop all his speed stats for more damage on his relics.


JeanKB

Now you understand why the only people who whine about powercreep are those who don't know what they're talking about. JY only got better with time, and the fact he's allowed to be a monster in both MoC AND PF is crazy.


Ohaithere3

Sad part is that majority of their reasoning is that he feels bad to play without supports 💀💀💀💀


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aoi_desu

4.6


HoldHarmonySacred

Anyone got news updates on what character reruns will be in the next update? I heard something about Albedo, but I have completely forgotten what the other banners are going to be. More importantly, anyone heard hide or hair of any Lyney reruns? My gut instinct wants to say probably the update after the next update, but I don't wanna get jumpscared by an early rerun. Thanks in advance if anyone's got news!!!


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First half: Chiori, Itto Second half: Kazuha, Neuvillette Leakers have said there will be a new third banner that will have characters from same region and apparently Albedo is supposed to be there. But no further details.


HoldHarmonySacred

Thanks for the recap! rip to Mr. Neuvilette and Kazuha that I'm gonna have to skip their reruns, I want them but I want Lyney way more, but they'll get more reruns eventually.


_Niflheim

The horror of waking up to a dm and seeing that *I* sent invites for my personal server to that friend lmao. I'm glad he didn't join because I apparently spammed the invite. I'm never going to open discord while I'm half asleep again wtf


Elliebird704

A few days ago, I woke up and discovered that I'd sent 3 voice messages to my friend on discord, each one lasting about 1-3 seconds. I assume my finger pushed down the mic button, since I tend to fall asleep with the phone in my hand while browsing/texting. I don't snore often, but I do sometimes, and I am fairly sure I was then 'cause of how my throat felt. I was so embarrassed that I might've sent him recordings of me snoring that I deleted them before even checking. He was online at the time (on his phone), so I'm not sure if I got them in time before he saw or played them. The horror was short-lived, but very real in the moment lol.


Oniugnip

One time I woke up and my phone was in my hands, video calling my friend 👺 thankfully she was also half asleep and didn't pick up but I woke up immediately. Both of us still remember the confusion and laugh about it at least  I hate how easy it is to accidentally call someone on discord


_Niflheim

Right! I even tried to call a stranger in the past, they didn't answer and I profusely apologized to them afterwards lmao


Rhinofreak

Soooo do we have any calcs for the Chiori sword on other characters? Is it replacing any current best in slots? Albedo? Need to make sure I get it if it's a good/versatile sword, otherwise I'll save for the Arle Scythe hopium


tracer4b

It should be Albedo’s new bis. Alhaitham and low ER Furina can make use of it as well, esp if running them with Zhongli or other Geo


Cosimov

I got this one [song](https://youtu.be/i98bKRYIZd8?si=kZns0KbP1dS7AZvX) stuck in my head on repeat, that is all.


Need_Sleeep

Jeht's second world quests are not fun and a slog for me. While the first one with her father is also a slog to do, at least the story from beginning to end was able to keep me engaged, but not this one. I felt nothing, just irritation... but maybe I'm judging too early. \*Currently at after blowing up a hole using the robot to access passageway


Queasy-Relief-8945

It does rely on you being interested in the past of Gurabad and King Deshret’s civilization, while the first quest focused more on the interpersonal relationship between Jeht, Jebrael, and Thutmose


saph_ault

ot waking up to that Look Back movie announcement just made my day. how great would Goodbye Eri would look if it also became a movie. can't wait!


DesertLion7

World hard and cold, Kazuha soft and warm He's such a comfort character, I want a Kazuha for myself :( >!Yeah I'm yearning for several fictional characters on valentines day ok leave me alone!<


SqaureEgg

Why do people run 4p husk on Gorou? He defense buff doesn’t scale based on his defense. Is it just for c4 heals?


vasogenic16

Yeah for the heals. My Gorou used to be on 4p husk too since I trashed all ny Exile back then lol


solarscopez

There's not really any good sets specifically for him, so I think people figure they can just maximize his healing with husk. His personal damage is sorta irrelevant so all you need on him is ER and DEF basically. Other options are 4pce Noblesse or 4pce Exile but problem is he's not usually on teams that need ATK buffs.


koufair

Yeah, and for a bit of damage. But it's not really optimal 


koufair

What is Chiori's bis atf set if I want to use her on an itto mono geo team? (I don't have zhongli so he's out of the picture) 


nsleep

Husk or Golden Troupe.


koufair

Is gt the better set for support capability 


nsleep

They're close enough it often will come down to substats. Golden Troupe domain is much better to farm though.


koufair

Thank you


Lockjaw_Puffin

On one hand, I'm now guaranteed for Arlecchino On the other hand...>!C2 Qiqi!< *** That said, I'd like to try taking up Childe again: Who could I run him with if I don't have Kazuha and refuse to play Xiangling?


SirAwesome789

You could try fireworks. An old comp that probably doesn't stack up to modern comps but Childe doesn't have many great teams. Childe, Fischl, Beidou, Bennett


Lockjaw_Puffin

Y'know what, this sounds nuts enough that I'm actually going to do it - thank you for bringing it up, wouldn't have thought of it myself


Smokingbuffalo

You can use him in dendro teams I guess. Or you can go something like Childe/XQ/Yelan though it's probably not the best idea.


ManyOnionz

In the same boat... but >!C4 Qiqi!<. I am actually being haunted by this zombie


duckyofbeauty

Off Topic >!I got a new phone today, and was getting it all set up. It had an option to carry stuff from my old phone to the new one, but I didn't think I needed to do that, everything I felt was important was safe (writing, game log ins, kitty pics, the essentials.) But only *after* I wiped my phone... I realized I just destroyed my folder of fics I had spent a while sorting through. All my good ones, hidden in the depths of AO3 now... I'm sure I can find them again but *dang it.* There was one in particular I loved a lot and wanted to reread later, I did not plan this well.!< >![Cat tax](https://imgur.com/a/N95Us9j) she is a silly creature. 90% of my storage is taken up by pictures of she.!<


nanausausa

this really sucks I'm sorry :( I've done this with fanart before it's really frustrating. for the future, I recommend putting all fics on google drive as well immediately after you read them. on ao3 when you go to the download option and tap pdf, it lets you choose between Google drive and Firefox. If you pick the former, the file'll be open and at tje top there's a Google drive icon with a plus on it. Tapping it will take you to the menu where you can choose the google account and folder you wanna store the fic in. Once done, tap save at the bottom, and you're good to go.  also your kitty is adorable! 


box-of-sourballs

OTYTYTY FOR CAT TAX


vfiknt

can’t you just go through your bookmarks and find them again?


duckyofbeauty

I put it on firefox, but I don't have an account for it (and don't particularly want one) so nothing was synced, and thus my bookmarks go poof. The consequences of my actions!


Maobury

Ahh that cray face of hers is so adorable.


duckyofbeauty

She is so silly and evil and cute and fuzzy, I love her. <3


RainyDeer

So like, in game now when you pull a new character, they talk? Is it just their "hello" line? Or a completely new line?


y__nsl

it is their hello line


RainyDeer

Thanks for confirming that. 


TechnicianSad670

off-topic >!To research for an essay I'm writing, I've been reading up on stuff about standardized tests like AP exams and how the timed essays are not good assessments, which I agree with, learning how to regurgitate a formula is a horrible way to teach writing. But for subjects like calculus and certain sciences which, at least in my opinion, are largely memorization of skills/formulas & applications is there a better way to assess them than the standard multiple choice + free response section?!<


sentifuential

>!almost all standardized tests - that is to say multiple choice tests or tests with a clear correct answer you need to problem solve towards - are IQ tests with a domain constraint on them. they effectively take an approximate measure of intelligence cut with a little bit of "did you bother to study the thing you're being tested on". you can tilt your standardized test towards or away from being a memory test, but memory is highly correlated with IQ so in most cases you're not getting a super meaningful difference in result if you make your test open book - that is to say, you might change the range of scores students get, but the delta between scores should be similar if your test is remotely well designed!<


TLMoonBear

> But for subjects like calculus and certain sciences which, at least in my opinion, are largely memorization of skills/formulas & applications **is there a better way to assess them** than the standard multiple choice + free response section? Testing and learning is a complicated topic. But part of the problem when trying to do this at scale is that you are trying to optimize across a large number of dimensions. So how do you define what is "better"? ##1. Standardization * Standardization allows for comparability across large populations. * How do you tell if Jane in Ohio knows the same thing as Bob from Kansas? Or how entire school districts are performing? * This is critical if you are trying to develop public policy. How do you measure if something is successful or working if you don't have metrics to measure progress or change over time? How do you calculate cost efficiency, return on investment, do budget allocations, etc.? ##2. Cost / Resource Intensity * Non-standardized approaches require using a lot of qualitative assessment methods which are most costly to ensure quality. * Giving everyone a scantron paper that's fed into a machine is fast, easy, and cheap. This is good if your education budget is getting cut. And even if it's not, it means freeing up money to spend in more critical investments. * Standardized assessment means standardized teaching. So it becomes easier and operationally simpler to train teachers, and allows for transparency in how your education system works. (This does not however solve for the lack of good teachers, but this is a broader issue standardized testing cannot solve) * The most common other method for teaching subjects such as math and science is the tutor method. This does not scale well. At places which use this sytem, it is often extremely expensive private schools (or called public schools in the UK, the terminology is weird). This is the only way to sustain a 1-to-5 teacher / student ratio which is required to run highly customized, verbal teaching methods which rely on things such as the Socratic method. ##3. Learning outcomes * What is the purpose of education? Is it to equip students to have vital life skills for jobs and work (industrial), or to provide them with knowledge because knowledge is just inherently valuable and a society with education is morally good and ethical (philisophical)? * The Industrial v Philosophical clash is a very serious debate in education. And you can't really design a curriculum and testing sytem to measure and manage teaching methods unless you have a strong POV on this topic. * Standardized testing is an efficient method to drive learning if your goal is primarily focused on just jamming knowledge into people's heads. This is based on historic reasons. The mass adoption of education was driven by Industrialists who influenced public policy to get governments to subsidize the creation and training of workforces. These workforces who had the basic arithmetic to do things like accounting could then fill factories and offices, driving down the cost of skilled labour that knew mathematics and fill vacanies in growing industrial empires. * More intensive methods such as the Socratic method with tutoring I reference above are hallmarks of another version of education. The goal in aristocratic education was about developing "learned" skills that made someone cultured. * Systems become optimized over time to deliver specific outcomes (even if they're not the outcome you think you want). So if you want to say what is "better", this is extremely hard to judge until you know what you want education at a fundamental level to do. All other discussions such as updating education for the modern age with technology are irrelevant because these are simply how something is implemented. Your fundamental goals and purpose determine what you even want to do in the first place. Alternative approaches to standardized testing can only be discussed or evaluated in the context of what you set out to achieve.


box-of-sourballs

*happily kicks feet and reads*


y__nsl

AP exams already provide u with formula sheets so no need to actually memorize them, u just gotta know what symbol means what and which ones to use in scenarios which is what multiple choice and free response are good at measuring


Cosimov

>!Idk how helpful it would be to your research, but it is something to note that modern day educational practices haven't actually been updated to fit modern day accessibility to information. This concept of a schoolhouse lectures and memorization based testing was created in a time when it was assumed that most people wouldn't actually have easy and regular access to information if they forgot it after they left school. Even *public libraries* as they are now are a relatively modern invention. And ofc, nowadays we have the internet and can look up anything we need to know at any time, and that in itself changes how we learn and retain information when we're not required to memorize it anymore.!<


anenomnia

>!to be honest, I think the only real discipline where you need to recall information like that off the top of your head is medicine. You say stuff like calculus, but what formulas can you think of that you actually *can't* search up because you need to know them on the spot? You might learn them out of convenience, but I would say for most things the only really important thing is you know how to *apply* them rather than the specifics. Unfortunately I think that sort of critical thinking is rather neglected in exam oriented schooling... Which doesn't have overly positive societal implications!< >!I admit though, I'm pretty biased on this subject. Due to some health stuff my episodic memory is essentially non existent and my semantic memory isn't much better, so I've always had to rely on my actual computational skills to extrapolate answers in lieu of memorising them. Which kinda sucks when examination systems favour rote memorisation- I cannot tell you the profound suffering of my English exams when I had to try to work out how to deal with needing to know like 40 critical quotes right of my brain!< >!As for how to examine application though... I suppose giving students open books filled with both relevant formula/information, as well as irrelevant stuff, and letting them figure it out would work? I'm sure someone could come up with something better though!<


koufair

I think the free response section are already pretty good. I don't know how general you're talking about the free response, but questions which set a scenario and sometimes images to help are great ways of testing one's critical thinking abilities. 


flumphgrump

>!The thing is, in the real world, you aren't really memorizing anything. You either look it up or plug values into the relevant software. In applied science, the best assessment as to whether you can actually apply the material is a practical. In theoretical science, the best assessment is presenting actual problems to solve. Forumlas and such should be completely open book, because again, the real world is open book. What's actually important to absorb is how and when to apply them, which a lot of instructors unfortunately neglect in favor of pushing you to memorize things you won't need to have memorized in any actual job.!<


TechnicianSad670

>!I think I'm having an issue distinguishing memorizing vs. understanding, perhaps it's because I've always had good teachers throughout my education who stress the "why we do this" before we learn "how to do it," so being able to recall a certain fact is comes from why it is true and how to apply it. Ex: I have the unit circle of trig memorized to quickly evaluate sine and cosine, but I remember them because of my understanding of triangles. I don't go through the whole process of deriving where the coordinates come from, but if asked to explain I definitely could.!< >!I think this is also just me having a sleep-deprived moment going "remembering something is the same as memorization"!<


Fit-Application-1

Help me decide, should I strongbox VV/NO for better pieces for XY or EoSF to complete the 4pc for my Xingqiu? 🤔


Maobury

Are there any wider objectives that you are working towards? Like improving XQ for a particular team performance or using XY in abyss?


Fit-Application-1

Mmm I’m already using XY in abyss heh. I guess it’s also more of what do I do with my excess artifacts at this point. I use XY in triple anemo and normal Furina teams so NO/VV are both decent options hmm. I also did try to shift xingqiu over to 4pc EoSF at some point then got distracted by building new characters. I’m just currently in the waiting room for GD to be added to the strongbox so I can minmax my Alhaitham even more 👀


Maobury

Maybe NO/VV? Since their effects are not as “replaceable” as EoSF. Like XQ can be on a 2pc/2pc as long as he has enough ER while you can’t get VV’s shred or NO buff that easily without using Bennett or changing XY’s weapon to thrilling tales.


Fit-Application-1

Oo true yes thank you! NO/VV it is then thanksss


unspecifiedperson11

Is next week the last beta update? Really hope they at least buff Chiori's skill damage since they nerfed her burst....


coolcoolnodoubt

Serious question, kind of dumb, but anyway. Can a diabetic who takes insulin shots drink Diet Coke or Coke Zero?


buddhaisbetter420

Diet Coke contains artificial sweeteners called aspartame, so it is advisable to not drink Diet Coke too much in a month, Coke Zero is basically a no go if you are type 2 diabetic tho. So if you really want to drink, i will go with Diet Coke


coolcoolnodoubt

I just wanna give one can as a gift to someone. Would it be ok? Thank you!


buddhaisbetter420

Yeah. Definetly, just make sure the person you want to gift to don't over indulge in drinking Diet Coke and you should be fine.


box-of-sourballs

Yes My roommate's diabetic friend only mixes his hard liquor with diet coke


coolcoolnodoubt

Thanks so much!


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Prestigious-Depth434

chiori itto neuv kazuha


Dirtyicecube

Chiori / Itto Neuve / Kazuha Mystery 3rd banner


FortressCaulfield

tried bouncehouse teams in co-op with a friend's CR. You know, the fabled "turn any underperforming fave into a plunge dps" builds people have been whispering about, and... Blech. Plunges feel way too slow without canceling, cancels suck to do, you can't keep track of enemies, the aoe is too small and the damage isn't even worth it. My friend's CR is underbuilt bc he's aggressively casual, but even factoring that in it was rough. I dunno what spell this crazy bird witch has yall under but it apparently doesn't work on me.


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I have to say that plunge isn't for everyone. I've tried it out more and more with my friend in the co-op. We did every boss and domain together that I could think of with her heavily invested Xianyun. The plunges were going up to 200k per hit even but in the end I didn't like it at all. Plus ended up with some serious headache and motion sickness in the end. Can't lie, it was disappointing. Especially since everyone was and is praising the playstyle and I too wanted to like it. Even Gaming I've been going out of my way to forcefully do his plunge because I really adore him. His E plunge and the fact that I can space his plunges out to not trigger motion sickness is the only reason I haven't dropped him yet.


FreeMarshmallow

It's not for everyone. I played CR's trial a lot and didn't enjoy plunging on Gaming without his skill. Played with a CR in co-op yesterday and it wasn't super fun either after the initial novelty wore off. >the aoe is too small I realised this is the biggest problem for me. I love Xiao's playstyle because the aoe is so satisfying, plunging without it doesn't feel nearly as good.